Took a "little" risk today... $150 for "New" 60D (Diverta Shop)

[sylpherware]

tl;dr version: I went with a highly probable scam of buying a Canon 60D for $150, and now I'm having my fingers crossed.

So, anybody who has been using UsedAnywhere.com has probably found this little gem yesterday:
Canon 60D for $150! (http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Canon-EOS-60D-SLR_17733535)
I wrote the seller: "Serious? 60D for $150?"
And got this email response:

Hello,

Thank you for the interest in our product Canon EOS 60D SLR 18 Megapixel (price $150). We have for sale on internet many products like electronics and computers. All our products are new. We own them from auctions from goods seized from custom house. The price that we paid for the products was very low and with our commission result a very attractive price for the marketplace. This is the reason for our low prices.

The product is new, sealed, with 2 years warranty.

Also you have some pictures with our product here http://s1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg583/album4534/

If you really want the product, you must hurry, because we have a limited stock and that stock is falling every day. We are waiting your answer ASAP.

Sincerely,
Diverta Shop™

At the same time, the mods at UsedAnywhere sent me this warning:

Hi I'm a moderator. You sent a message on UsedVictoria.com responding to ad with id 17731637 and with title Canon EOS 60D SLR 18 Megapixel.

I have reason to believe that the ad was fraudulent. If the seller agrees to meet with you in person then I am likely mistaken. But if they want you to send money please stop all communication with them. Best to leave them in the dark.

Please do not be fooled by fake moderation emails stating the transaction is safe. Our moderation team will never tell you it's safe to send your money!

So I sent the site to my photo-buddies and had a good laugh. That was last night.

This morning, I got this follow-up email from Diverta

Hello,

We understand that you have seen the product details and you are interested in buying it.

If you want to buy the camera, please go to our web site www.diverta-shop.com and make an order at Checkout page. When will receive your order, we'll send you the invoice for the payment. Payment must be done by PayPal Checkout and must be sent within 24 hours. Delivery will take 5 business days.

So I asked them where are they located. I got this:

We are located in Canada but the shipping is free only in Canada.

We are waiting for your order.

I figured, $150 is not *that* big of a bet, and the only real risk is giving them my personal info. Since they're doing it through paypal, that lowered my worries a bit. :o

Anyway, I went with it, paid $150 through paypal, gave them my work address instead of home, and changed my email and paypal passwords after the transaction. Paypal registered the transaction, so I'm sure they didn't send me a fake invoice. Now I'm just hoping for the best. If not, let this be a lesson to others out there and keep an eye out for "Diverta Shop". ;)

Cheers,

p.s. I whois'd diverta-shop.com, and saw they have only registered the domain yesterday :lol:

[X820]

150 for a brand new 60D? It's too good to be true. Since you're paying it with PayPal, you can always make a claim if it's turned out to be fraudulent. Keep us posted!

[shaolinmonk]

can i have $150 from you... won't even bother to scam you lol just straight out asking

[Musiq Soulchild]

can i have $150 from you... won't even bother to scam you lol just straight out asking

Haha thats pretty much the way I saw it also.

[angy]

*shakes head* that u even tried

[sylpherware]

can i have $150 from you... won't even bother to scam you lol just straight out asking

Sure, wire me $75 first so I can secure the funds for you. I'm actually a Nigerian prince, so you know I'm legit ;)

[Buggy166]

ill sell you a brand new 5D mark 3 picture for $500, free shipping

[Vietlord]

I hope you paid using credit card through paypal. and not paid using your paypal balance.
if they were to ship you rocks and can provide a tracking number, you`re screwed.

paypal transactions outside of ebay does not cover the item description.

[sylpherware]

I hope you paid using credit card through paypal. and not paid using your paypal balance.
if they were to ship you rocks and can provide a tracking number, you`re screwed.

paypal transactions outside of ebay does not cover the item description.

Noted. Actually, I'm kinda glad to know that this won't show up on my CC bill. I can't imagine how I'd explain it to the wife: "Uh, yea, I willingly became a test-subject of a scam." :razz:

If anything, I'll just sell off the lenses I don't use to recover the cost.

[windforcexx28]

Wow... I'd never try this.

Keep us updated! :D

[Little Johny]

That reminds me the gold mine stock Bre-X-------- is there real gold at the drilling site or just mud and rocks.? And I tried-----just like you......Only trouble is, my whole family knows.....

[Ethan15]

Unbelievable that OP even went ahead with sending $150 ... you could at least donated that money to hungry kids in Africa

[spicytofu]

Unbelievable that OP even went ahead with sending $150 ... you could at least donated that money to hungry kids in Africa

At least it's going to the same continent...

[1337rice]

ill sell you a brand new 5D mark 3 picture for $500, free shipping


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOzVls6spI8

[Buggy166]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOzVls6spI8

that ones a classic

[Asad_A203]

If Paypal can't recover the funds you sent, they usually don't take the loss. That is why paying with a credit card through your paypal is best as it adds for an extra layer of protection (dispute with CC as opposed to with Paypal). I really hope you didn't lose your $150 but I guess you understood the risks going into this.

[sylpherware]

Unbelievable that OP even went ahead with sending $150 ... you could at least donated that money to hungry kids in Africa

I already do, every month. :)

[Winkle]

I already do, every month. :)

You should have donated the $150 to me then!

[Circuit]

Oh, I'm going to watch this thread closely :)

[Little Johny]

I sincerely hope the OP comes out as a winner on his speculation.

[sylpherware]

I sincerely hope the OP comes out as a winner on his speculation.

Thanks, but I'm expecting the opposite :p

[cipher]

Good luck.....

domain: diverta-shop.com
created: 15-Jul-2012
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registration-expiration: 15-Jul-2013

nserver: ns51.1and1.com 217.160.80.164
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status: CLIENT-TRANSFER-PROHIBITED

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[AnimeEd]

OP, you should have taken the money to a casino instead. The odds of getting a 60D would be much higher.
They are also selling a Samsung UN55D7000LF for $200 and it retails for $2k.

[NEMESIS_2008]

Ops next thread will be: "got scammed by online scam site, PayPal and credit card company won't refund money. HELP!!"

[cipher]

Crickets...

[thelefteyeguy]

the problem i have with his is it encourages ppl to continue to scam...

[sylpherware]

Crickets...

Well, it's only been 3 business days, and they claim "2-5 business days" to ship :razz:

I'll give them until next Tuesday before I start my salvage operation.

So far they haven't responded to any of my emails. I was hoping that they'd at least be a good sport and send me *something* at least - a rock or an email saying "thanks for the $150, so long, sucker!" :lol:

[levendis]

If anything, I'll just sell off the lenses I don't use to recover the cost.

LOL...what ya selling?

[manixc]

in for later!!

[heyjoe]

i'm getting giddy with anticipation

moar updates op, MOAR

[steve-0101]

Why, why, why

[sylpherware]

Email I got today:


Hello [removed],

Diverta Shop added shipping details. Please note that the tracking information and shipping status are shown exactly as the seller entered them.

Shipper None
Tracking number No Shipment Tracking
Shipping status Shipped
If you have questions about the shipment, please contact payment-DS64524@diverta-shop.com

LoL... I'm kinda surprised that paypal would accept a "None" in the shipper's space. Does that mean the seller can put in any BS and paypal would automatically accept it?

[Jimboski]

Just file the dispute.. What a waste of time.

[Hugh Jass]

:facepalm:

[frogger]

Scammers getting another $150 in their pockets....

[ritz1010]

look thru it from this angle

1) OP get the camera as promised
2) There is a blast on the net...............everyone's ordering
3) Now the scammer has good enough reason($$$$$$$$$$$$$$) to scam
4) BINGO..............OP has the last laugh

[X820]

It's Tuesday! Any news yet?

[M1K3Z0R]

OP has BALLS OF STEEL!

Walked into a scam with full knowledge, like a boss.

http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/gallery/files/9/8/2/8/michael-jackson-eating-popcorn.gif

[Hugh Jass]

OP has BALLS OF STEEL!

Walked into a scam with full knowledge, like a boss.



Boss isn't the word I'd have used in this situation.

[steve-0101]

It's Tuesday! Any news yet?

I'm not the OP but I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that he hasn't received his camera.

[Musiq Soulchild]

I'm not the OP but I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that he hasn't received his camera.

Thanks Sherlock.

[Jimboski]

Boss isn't the word I'd have used in this situation.

The worse I would have described It still ends with two "s" though!

[gotak]

And I thought Rob Ford was pointless. This whole exercise is the definition of face->palm, where 12 billion hands on your face isn't enough. That or this is just a bored person posting to see what reaction he can get.

[sylpherware]

It's Tuesday! Any news yet?


Email I got today:


Hello [removed],

Diverta Shop added shipping details. Please note that the tracking information and shipping status are shown exactly as the seller entered them.

Shipper None
Tracking number No Shipment Tracking
Shipping status Shipped
If you have questions about the shipment, please contact payment-DS64524@diverta-shop.com

LoL... I'm kinda surprised that paypal would accept a "None" in the shipper's space. Does that mean the seller can put in any BS and paypal would automatically accept it?

Well, I have to wait for a phantom shipping to NOT arrive before I can file any dispute with Paypal. Gotta wait a couple of days more :o

[hevnsnt]

Site now says under construction

[X820]

I wonder how many people bought from them.

[cipher]

One for sho!

[wilsonlam97]

At least it's going to the same continent...

Hahaha. Reminded me of that credit card fraud edition on dateline nbc

[wilsonlam97]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOzVls6spI8

Total win!

[ssbtech]

Site now says under construction

diverta-shop.ca is still up!

[Ryus]

There is a reason all the email spam just keeps on going even after all these years. They send out to a guzzillion people, and the odds are some people would respond and makes the scammer's operation profitable. Out of those guzzillion people, those few actually think they got such a good deal or are so lucky to have won something LOL! The saying still stands, "There's a sucker born every minute". LOL! Some people just can't resist haha!

[ssbtech]

I'm guessing the OP hasn't returned yet because he's out taking all sorts of photos with his new 60D :p

[Jimboski]

I'm guessing the OP hasn't returned yet because he's out taking all sorts of photos with his new 60D :p

I don't get It, Unless you mean an imaginary 60D!

[sylpherware]

No new 60D yet... QQ

Been busy with other stuff recently... Could've used the $150 to buy my fiance a pair of new shoes for the wedding we attended today, but she told me she doesn't need a new pair.
Awesome ;)

[Hugh Jass]

No new 60D yet... QQ

Been busy with other stuff recently... Could've used the $150 to buy my fiance a pair of new shoes for the wedding we attended today, but she told me she doesn't need a new pair.
Awesome ;)

She's a keeper. Not too many women would ever say that, let alone for a wedding ;)

[Task514]

We all know the ending... Lol

[Jimboski]

So when Is the dispute going to be placed?

[Hugh Jass]

So when Is the dispute going to be placed?

Should have filed it straight after clicking 'submit order' ;)

[Jimboski]

Should have filed it straight after clicking 'submit order' ;)

That's what I said..

[NEMESIS_2008]

They sent him the box

Lol come on, and update this thread!

[o0aZuMi0o]

Time to call paypal and your credit card :)

[dr]

LOL. This is hilarious.

[Jimboski]

OP's trolling us!

[Mars2012]

OP's trolling us!

You hope...no one is that stupid, huh?

[OracerO]

Update?

[RatherBePerfin']

Is it even possible for a new camera to have a valid 2 year warranty when the seller obtained it through the means claimed and is not an authorized canon dealer?

[msowsun]

Yes, they can sell it with a 3rd party warranty.

[iridium001]

So much face palm for this thread.

sylpherware is trolling right? No one is that stupid??

[Xeros]

No one is selling or buying anything in this thread. It's all an excuse to blow $150 on nothing.

[ThaChingster]

So... what happened? I bookmarked this page LOOL

[Jimboski]

So... what happened? I bookmarked this page LOOL

Literally nothing!

[heyjoe]

op's gf found out and grounded him from the internet.

[sylpherware]

Finally got around to file a "dispute" on paypal :|
Anybody knows how long will that take?

I sent a few emails to "Diverta-shop" requesting them to be a good sport and at least send me a rock or a photo of a 60D, but no replies. I hope that counts as my "attempt to contact the seller" :razz:
I thought paypal doesn't release the fund unless the seller proves that they have "sent something"?

[X820]

Nah, if it's through ebay, then yes the fund won't be available instantly. But if they sent you an invoice through paypal and you paid for it, it's instant.

Expect a month for the dispute, or even better, call your credit card company to claim the fund. It's faster to do it through your bank instead of paypal, given that you paid through paypal using your credit card.

[stasbasko]

interesting trend. Prefer not to take a risk.

[sylpherware]

An unrelated note, someone posted a $1200 for 5D2 + 24-105 f4 L + shipping on usedvictoria.com
I responded just to see what kind of response I'd get, and:


(From David R. Kurik davidkur1k@aol.com)
Hey ,

Sorry for this late reply but I have been overwhelmed by the number of emails I got from interested buyers after listing the camera.As you can know the price is 1200 $ ( a little bit negotiable) this includes body and lens .The Canon is like new and under warranty .I am selling it so low because I need to sell it before August 23th.

I already have tons of emails so I hope you understand that I need to sort them out and I hope you won't make me loose time as it has already happened to me. If you will decide to buy it I am willing to pay for the shipping costs . If you are still interested e-mail me back .

Thanks

Again, usedvictoria's mod sent me another email warning about the scam.

$1200 is a bit steep to play along this scam, so... :razz:

[rossandmarita]

everyone should make a fake email and place order, let them waste time emailing everyone asking them to send payment

[sylpherware]

Got an email this morning:

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Resolution of Your Case: #PP-001-941-438-957
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Dear [],

We have concluded our investigation into your case and have decided in your
favor.

We were able to recover $150.00 CAD and this amount has been credited to
you. Please allow five business days for this adjustment to be posted.

If you are due any additional funds, we will make our best effort to
recover the balance from the seller.


If the seller's account has insufficient funds to complete the refund owed
to you, please be assured that we will take appropriate action against the
seller's account, which may include limitation of the seller's account
privileges.


-----------------------------------
Transaction Details
-----------------------------------


Seller's Name: Diverta Shop
Seller's Email: payment-DS64524@diverta-shop.com
Seller's Transaction ID: 53R80608T0119371A

Transaction Date: Jul 17, 2012
Transaction Amount: -$150.00 CAD
Your Transaction ID: 28L67903K0851773J
Case Number: PP-001-941-438-957

Buyer's Transaction ID: 28L67903K0851773J




-----------------------------------
What to Do Next
-----------------------------------

No further action is required by you at this time.


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Other Details
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To make sure future transactions proceed smoothly, we suggest you visit the
PayPal site and click the Security Center link located at the top of any
page. There you will find tips on how to avoid fraudulent sellers in the
"Fraud Prevention Tips for Buyers" section.

To learn more about PayPal's Buyer Protection Program, go to the PayPal
website and click the Security Center link located at the bottom of any
page.

Thanks,

PayPal Protection Services Department
Sincerely,
PayPal

[ssbtech]

That's lucky, I don't know if they'd be so helpful if they knew that you knew you were baiting a scammer.

[AnimeEd]

OP... now take that money to the casino like I suggested.
Buy red three times (red for RFD).

[sylpherware]

That's lucky, I don't know if they'd be so helpful if they knew that you knew you were baiting a scammer.

Whaaa? I have no idea what you're talking about :razz:
I was simply suckered into a seemingly great deal, that's all ;)

[buffylover]

Total win!

that video is awesome, you know whats more awesome than the video... the daughter....HOT

[kay188]

An unrelated note, someone posted a $1200 for 5D2 + 24-105 f4 L + shipping on usedvictoria.com
I responded just to see what kind of response I'd get, and:



Again, usedvictoria's mod sent me another email warning about the scam.

$1200 is a bit steep to play along this scam, so... :razz:

Hahahah I got the same email from the same guy. He posted $1220 for a 5D2 on Craigslist the other day.

$1220 is actually possible for a 5D2. My friend picked his up for $1000 used, of course in person.

[sylpherware]

Hahahah I got the same email from the same guy. He posted $1220 for a 5D2 on Craigslist the other day.

$1220 is actually possible for a 5D2. My friend picked his up for $1000 used, of course in person.

I think the ad is $1220 for 5D2 + 70-200 f4? :razz:
Anyway, got my paypal creds back, so it's all good ;)