What would you do? (Warning - ***** alert)

[nasa25]

So I'm driving my vehicle like a bau5 this morning - I go to make a right turn and see this Audi A6 quite a distance behind. So, I make the turn. Next thing I know this guy is literally right on my tail. He must have been going 100 or so (in a 60) to make up that much ground so quickly.

So he flashes his lights and pulls up beside me and asks 'Dont you look?'. Knowing that I did look and wasn't expecting him to be barreling down like a beast I just smirk and look the other way. He continues to squak and asks for an apology. I quickly weigh my options - do I tell this guy to go screw himself and cause further conflict or do I just appease him and end it right there. Well, I believe I took the smarter route and just smugly said 'ok - whatever- I apologize'. The douche then proceeds to look away and turn on and blast some ***** euro trash dance music.

What would you have done - tell him to shut the hell up and risk further conflict or just extinguish the situation? My heart said don't back down but my head said otherwise.

Discuss.

[thrifthunter]

I would have flipped him the bird.

[koffey]

By the way you spell boss and using this term, I am going at assume that you were driving like an au5 and deserved it.

[iEyeCaptain]

IB4RFDToughGuys

I would have waved, smiled and kept going.

[poedua]

So I'm driving my vehicle like a bau5 this morning - I go to make a right turn and see this Audi A6 quite a distance behind. So, I make the turn. Next thing I know this guy is literally right on my tail. He must have been going 100 or so (in a 60) to make up that much ground so quickly.

So he flashes his lights and pulls up beside me and asks 'Dont you look?'. Knowing that I did look and wasn't expecting him to be barreling down like a beast I just smirk and look the other way. He continues to squak and asks for an apology. I quickly weigh my options - do I tell this guy to go screw himself and cause further conflict or do I just appease him and end it right there. Well, I believe I took the smarter route and just smugly said 'ok

- whatever- I apologize'.

The douche then proceeds to look away and turn on and blast some ***** euro trash dance music.

What would you have done - tell him to shut the hell up and risk further conflict or just extinguish the situation? My heart said don't back down but my head said otherwise.

Discuss.

Well, if you apologized to him, then I guess he wasn't a " douche " after all.

You backed down and apologized - so, he won.

[Dr. Octagonecologyst]

Should of done this:

http://brilliantlyblunt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/1-50-Cent-Laugh-Off.gif

[rockybun]

You made the right and he needed to break means you're in the wrong. Apologies warranted and don't do that again.

[sickcars]

Well depends on how you look at it.

IF he was speeding that much then yes he should not of been HOWEVER you should of seen his car and realized he was making up ground quickly and it was not safe for you to make that right turn. However it could of also been you made that turn slowly and did not accelerate up to the speed limit as you should & the Audi could of been doing around the peed limit and quickly caught up because you did not get up to 60km/h quick enough.

Either way its hard to say it could been either persons fault and without seeing it we can only guess & assume.

[nasa25]

By the way you spell boss and using this term, I am going at assume that you were driving like an au5 and deserved it.

Not really, my wanton distrgard for the proper spelling of the word boss is just part of my quirky Internet presence.

[nasa25]

You made the right and he needed to break means you're in the wrong. Apologies warranted and don't do that again.

I couldn't gauge the fact that he was likely doing double the speed limit when I made the turn. I was definitely caught off guard.

[nasa25]

Well, if you apologized to him, then I guess he wasn't a " douche " after all.

You backed down and apologized - so, he won.

That's the whole point of this thread. Was it better to extinguish the situation or tell him to go f himself.

[shingor6]

Since I'm the one who merged in front of him whitout correctcly judging the speed he was travelling at, I would say that I am at fault and I'm deeply sorry for the inconvenience and that next time I will be more carefull.

When I drive on the road I hate blocking driver because I'm in the wrong lane at the wrong time and I hate when other driver do that to me.

[koffey]

But if you apologised then you had to have something to apologise for, unless your quirky presence is also timid.

[nasa25]

Well depends on how you look at it.

IF he was speeding that much then yes he should not of been HOWEVER you should of seen his car and realized he was making up ground quickly and it was not safe for you to make that right turn. However it could of also been you made that turn slowly and did not accelerate up to the speed limit as you should & the Audi could of been doing around the peed limit and quickly caught up because you did not get up to 60km/h quick enough.

Either way its hard to say it could been either persons fault and without seeing it we can only guess & assume.

I actually made the turn pretty quickly. He was just speeding.

[nasa25]

But if you apologised then you had to have something to apologise for, unless your quirky presence is also timid.

No - I apologized to extinguish the situation because I didn't want to have to deal with this guy not because I was sorry. He looked like a textbook guido juice head douche and my tolerance limit for dealing with those sorts of characters is nil.

[noob666]

Well, maybe you estimated the speed of the Audi wrong.

I've seen enough "douche" like you slow like a snail and block right in front of me after making a turn and think you own the road.

Maybe you should think twice before you make the turn and keep everyone safe on the road.

[jferreir]

No offense, but you both sound like d-bags.

If someone is barreling down the highway at 140kph, it would be inconsiderate to cut in front of them doing 110kph (knowingly or unknowingly). Ultimately, it's your responsibility to be aware of your surroundings, which can sometimes include irresponsible drivers. The other guy was a douche by acting confrontational and demanding an apology. Such conduct accomplishes nothing, and is likely to incite road rage.

Moral of the story: drive defensively (you) and don't be a prick (him).

[Voltex]

It was your fault since you didn't correctly judge the other driver's speed. I was in the same situation a couple of days ago (the other end of it) where a douche made a right turn right as I was coming (I was doing like 80 in a 70 so I wasn't abnormally fast). ***** had the nerve to brake check me after I honked and flashed my high beams at him even though he was in the wrong.

/cool story bro

[TrevorK]

That's the whole point of this thread. Was it better to extinguish the situation or tell him to go f himself.

If you wanted to leave the situation peacefully then the only guaranteed way to do that was to do what he had asked. It may have hurt your pride or not meant anything but in reality you have no idea how the other driver would react if you swore at him. With road rage/violence being more and more present it sometimes is best to do the smart thing, not necessarily what you think is the right thing.

[nasa25]

No offense, but you both sound like d-bags.

If someone is barreling down the highway at 140kph, it would be inconsiderate to cut in front of them doing 110kph (knowingly or unknowingly). Ultimately, it's your responsibility to be aware of your surroundings, which can sometimes include irresponsible drivers. The other guy was a douche by acting confrontational and demanding an apology. Such conduct accomplishes nothing, and is likely to incite road rage.

Moral of the story: drive defensively (you) and don't be a prick (him).

I'll agree that I misjudged his speed and had I realized he was going so fast I would have yielded.

[S14_Raven]

I actually made the turn pretty quickly. He was just speeding.

If you couldn't tell he was speeding before u made the right turn, how could you tell he was speeding after. I doubt you even stopped long enough to notice he was 'barrelling' down at you. Pretty hard to miss someone going close to double the speed limit given ample time...

[nasa25]

If you wanted to leave the situation peacefully then the only guaranteed way to do that was to do what he had asked. It may have hurt your pride or not meant anything but in reality you have no idea how the other driver would react if you swore at him. With road rage/violence being more and more present it sometimes is best to do the smart thing, not necessarily what you think is the right thing.

That's my take on it as well.

[virtuman1980]

OP, if the douche did slam into your car, I think you would be at fault for making an unsafe turn (insurance would find you at fault and police would give you a ticket). Very similar situation happened to my mom years ago in which a collision did happen and my mom also claimed the other driver was speeding excessively (there're witnesses btw)...however the police still found my mom to be at fault but he was nice enough not to give her a ticket. Drive safe!

[slomo]

OP, if the douche did slam into your car, I think you would be at fault for making an unsafe turn (insurance would find you at fault.

+1.

I had 2 similar close calls, but no accidents and no road rage, and in my case they were red traffic light runners. I would still have been SOL if there was an accident without a running DVR, but with video evidence showing green traffic light for me, I am pretty sure the tables would be turned against them.

[Voltex]

Technically it would be the OPs fault if they got into an accident but I'm pretty sure in the end the fault would go to the guy that rear ended him since it would be quite hard to prove that the OP made an unsafe turn in front of him.

[poedua]

That's the whole point of this thread. Was it better to extinguish the situation or tell him to go f himself.

You don't have to " tell him to go f himself " ...but if you didn't think you should apologize ..then simply don't apologize......it's called sticking with your principles.

[pete_rfd]

Should of done this:

http://brilliantlyblunt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/1-50-Cent-Laugh-Off.gif
Agreed lol

[Shaner]

I couldn't gauge the fact that he was likely doing double the speed limit when I made the turn. I was definitely caught off guard.

You shouldn't get caught off guard while driving. You need to guage how quick other drivers are going, you can't just assume everyone is driving the speed limit. You were definitely at fault.

[ragincanadian]

Can't say as to which approach was better as every instance is unique. One of the benefits to driving a full size 4 door pickup is I don't have to care about their opinion. I'm bigger, get outta my way. And if they continue to care, swerve at them.




I kid :D

But I do pull out in front of speeders in residential and school zones. I have no patience for that.

[amir_aqeel1]

Everyone makes mistakes, even myself. No matter how skilled a driver you are, you're bound to make an error at some point that could seriously agitate another driver. Sometimes you don't even have to make a mistake to trigger someone else's road rage. I would say, don't show a physical reaction to an aggressive driver's behavior. Avoid eye contact as this is seen as a sign of mutual aggression. Just practice good driving habits and when you do encounter an aggressive driver like this guy just let him have his way, even when it feels unfair. It's easy to think of this as letting the bad guy win but try to avoid that mentality. It's more important to think of driving as a group experience instead of a competition. Try to increase the distance between you and the aggressive driver. Remember that he is likely under stress & he's just really bad at handling it.

I apologized with a hand sign few times for making mistakes. I did it as soon as I realized that it was my fault. Things never really escalated any further. You did the right thing, getting back at any jerk not worth your life.

[sandikosh]

So I'm driving my vehicle like a bau5 this morning - I go to make a right turn and see this Audi A6 quite a distance behind. So, I make the turn. Next thing I know this guy is literally right on my tail. He must have been going 100 or so (in a 60) to make up that much ground so quickly.

So he flashes his lights and pulls up beside me and asks 'Dont you look?'. Knowing that I did look and wasn't expecting him to be barreling down like a beast I just smirk and look the other way. He continues to squak and asks for an apology. I quickly weigh my options - do I tell this guy to go screw himself and cause further conflict or do I just appease him and end it right there. Well, I believe I took the smarter route and just smugly said 'ok - whatever- I apologize'. The douche then proceeds to look away and turn on and blast some ***** euro trash dance music.

What would you have done - tell him to shut the hell up and risk further conflict or just extinguish the situation? My heart said don't back down but my head said otherwise.

Discuss.
No need to apologise as you are a bau5

[MS MSP]

Should of done this:

http://brilliantlyblunt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/1-50-Cent-Laugh-Off.gif

lol

[nasa25]

Everyone makes mistakes, even myself. No matter how skilled a driver you are, you're bound to make an error at some point that could seriously agitate another driver. Sometimes you don't even have to make a mistake to trigger someone else's road rage. I would say, don't show a physical reaction to an aggressive driver's behavior. Avoid eye contact as this is seen as a sign of mutual aggression. Just practice good driving habits and when you do encounter an aggressive driver like this guy just let him have his way, even when it feels unfair. It's easy to think of this as letting the bad guy win but try to avoid that mentality. It's more important to think of driving as a group experience instead of a competition. Try to increase the distance between you and the aggressive driver. Remember that he is likely under stress & he's just really bad at handling it.

I apologized with a hand sign few times for making mistakes. I did it as soon as I realized that it was my fault. Things never really escalated any further. You did the right thing, getting back at any jerk not worth your life.

Very well put. Thanks for this.

[001Stunna]

So I'm driving my vehicle like a bau5 this morning - I go to make a right turn and see this Audi A6 quite a distance behind. So, I make the turn. Next thing I know this guy is literally right on my tail. He must have been going 100 or so (in a 60) to make up that much ground so quickly.

So he flashes his lights and pulls up beside me and asks 'Dont you look?'. Knowing that I did look and wasn't expecting him to be barreling down like a beast I just smirk and look the other way. He continues to squak and asks for an apology. I quickly weigh my options - do I tell this guy to go screw himself and cause further conflict or do I just appease him and end it right there. Well, I believe I took the smarter route and just smugly said 'ok - whatever- I apologize'. The douche then proceeds to look away and turn on and blast some ***** euro trash dance music.

What would you have done - tell him to shut the hell up and risk further conflict or just extinguish the situation? My heart said don't back down but my head said otherwise.

Discuss.

Personally if i do something stupid i'll simply apologize and make sure i dont do it again.
If its something such as the other driver being an a$$ ive found out that blowing them kisses as theyre yelling/screaming at you makes them leave you alone lmao

[yang]

Who's at fault is irrelevant. OP did the right thing.

If OP was at fault then the right thing is to apologize for the mistake.
If OP was not at fault and other driver was being a d-bag, the right thing to do is to give him what he wanted (within reason) to minimize chance of further confrontation.

Pride is a hard thing to swallow but so too is food if one ends up in a full body cast as a result of violent confrontation or car crash.

[Andro]

No - I apologized to extinguish the situation because I didn't want to have to deal with this guy not because I was sorry. He looked like a textbook guido juice head douche and my tolerance limit for dealing with those sorts of characters is nil.

http://i46.tinypic.com/1hf4g0.jpg

[starboy869]

Hmm I would've done a few things.

'Sorry buddy didn't see ya. However your cute. Are you single?". However this could backfire on you.

A shoulder shug, and up the window. Anymore issues? Dial 911 Hello, emergency 911.

If I want to really shine him on I would show him my 9". Hehe

[oksir]

Too many wannabes driving like they own the road. Ive had so many audis flooring it as they see me turning in. If they dont speed up, it would have been a safe turn otherwise

[dc200]

Sounds like you did something stupid to provoke him before all of this happened. Do you drive a beige corolla by any chance?

[nasa25]

Sounds like you did something stupid to provoke him before all of this happened. Do you drive a beige corolla by any chance?

I disagree.

And no beige cororrah. 09 Jetta TDI.

[jimmy-j]

i had to google wtf bau5 was.

that was a major dicktuck story

[willdacanucker]

This happened to me one time. He was obviously passive aggressive and looking for a fight. I smiled at the arsehole, and said "have a nice day." That incensed this dude something fierce, lol.

[nasa25]

i had to google wtf bau5 was.

that was a major dicktuck story

Recommendations on the correct course of action in this situation?

[vdubber]

So I'm driving my vehicle like a bau5 this morning - I go to make a right turn and see this Audi A6 quite a distance behind. So, I make the turn. Next thing I know this guy is literally right on my tail. He must have been going 100 or so (in a 60) to make up that much ground so quickly.

So he flashes his lights and pulls up beside me and asks 'Dont you look?'. Knowing that I did look and wasn't expecting him to be barreling down like a beast I just smirk and look the other way. He continues to squak and asks for an apology. I quickly weigh my options - do I tell this guy to go screw himself and cause further conflict or do I just appease him and end it right there. Well, I believe I took the smarter route and just smugly said 'ok - whatever- I apologize'. The douche then proceeds to look away and turn on and blast some ***** euro trash dance music.

What would you have done - tell him to shut the hell up and risk further conflict or just extinguish the situation? My heart said don't back down but my head said otherwise.

Discuss.

wow there is alot of douchey ppl commenting here. kudos to you for appologizing and moving on.
the d-bag in the audi is just that..a d-bag. i mean if hes double the speed limit, hes an idiot and deserves bad things. he thinks he owns the road. if he was capable of doubling the speed limit, he should be capable of switching lanes.....i mean he did pull up beside you to lip you off. i guess hes over compensating for something else and wanted to be macho.

keep driving safe and ignoring pricks like this. he'll get whats coming to him

[nasa25]

wow there is alot of douchey ppl commenting here. kudos to you for appologizing and moving on.
the d-bag in the audi is just that..a d-bag. i mean if hes double the speed limit, hes an idiot and deserves bad things. he thinks he owns the road. if he was capable of doubling the speed limit, he should be capable of switching lanes.....i mean he did pull up beside you to lip you off. i guess hes over compensating for something else and wanted to be macho.

keep driving safe and ignoring pricks like this. he'll get whats coming to him

It was a one lane road. He had no choice but to brake.
I stopped at the light to make a left turn and he pulled up in the right lane (as the single lane splits into two at that point). The situation went down as I was waiting for the green.

[vdubber]

It was a one lane road. He had no choice but to brake.
I stopped at the light to make a left turn and he pulled up in the right lane (as the single lane splits into two at that point). The situation went down as I was waiting for the green.
regardless, hes still a dbag. what if a child or animal jumped infront of his car? almost doubleing the speed limit, there is 0 chance he can brake in time

[dc200]

I disagree.

And no beige cororrah. 09 Jetta TDI.

How could you possibly disagree if you don't know what you did to provoke him in the first place? People don't just come out of nowhere and start beaming whoever is in front of them.

Also, Audi driver's exact words were "don't you look?". That means you did something without looking. Duh.

[nasa25]

How could you possibly disagree if you don't know what you did to provoke him in the first place? People don't just come out of nowhere and start beaming whoever is in front of them.

Also, Audi driver's exact words were "don't you look?". That means you did something without looking. Duh.

He was mad because I pulled out in front of him while he was barreling down like a maniac.

And yes I did look and saw him.

[nasa25]

regardless, hes still a dbag. what if a child or animal jumped infront of his car? almost doubleing the speed limit, there is 0 chance he can brake in time

Its fairly common to do 80 in this 60 zone but this guy was flying down the road to make up so much ground that quickly. My guess would be 100km/h.

[carniver]

OP, be proud! Having total control of your temper makes you superior as a human being.

[mmretlol]

I guess depends on how quickly the other guy is going. If he's doing double the speed limit, I find it hard to see how its your fault.

A lot of driving, for better or worse, is making certain "reasonable assumptions" about the speeds of other cars on the road. If other drivers are violating those assumptions there is very little you can do from a practical perspective.

Take for example the ramp from 401 Express East to 404 North. Fairly tight left with a guard rail, I think its a post 60 yellow sign. If there is a car stopped on the curve, in the wrong spot, and you are doing even 60 km/h, you stand a good chance of slamming into him. If you really want to keep a "2 second gap" you'll probably have to be doing 30.

Most lane changes on the highway in moderately dense traffic are performed on the assumption that the guy in the next lane isn't suddenly going to jam the gas when they see you start to move over. I guess that's a sort of reverse (lol) Ragu.

[dc200]

He was mad because I pulled out in front of him while he was barreling down like a maniac.

And yes I did look and saw him.

http://okayface.com/okay-face.jpg

[IMWHFMPC]

Its fairly common to do 80 in this 60 zone but this guy was flying down the road to make up so much ground that quickly. My guess would be 100km/h.

does it matter how fast he was going? people do 100 on sheppard in between don mills and leslie all the time, it can happen anywhere. He HAD the right of way and you should really examine yourself on why you think you are right on this. You are such a douche. You will not win him in court for any damages if there was a collision, so why are you whining here? Get over it and be glad you did the apology.

[mmretlol]

Ah, so its okay because he wasn't going too much over the limit?

80 in a 60 is one thing, but IMHO 100 in a 60 is a stretch. Arguably the OP still should have seen it. But where do you draw the line? What if he was doing 150? 200? Still has the right of way?

[DJ_Peanuts22]

Blast your own euro trash dance music.

Fight fire with fire.

[nasa25]

does it matter how fast he was going? people do 100 on sheppard in between don mills and leslie all the time, it can happen anywhere. He HAD the right of way and you should really examine yourself on why you think you are right on this. You are such a douche. You will not win him in court for any damages if there was a collision, so why are you whining here? Get over it and be glad you did the apology.

If it was you and your 335 cab I'd have gladly apologized. You true baws.

[nasa25]

Blast your own euro trash dance music.

Fight fire with fire.

My assumption was that because he had this type of music on his playlist there must have been at least some form of mild mental retardation present. Poor guy.

[tsxnation]

OP, be proud! Having total control of your temper makes you superior as a human being.

+1 You did the right thing. The best thing in this situation is to do whatever it takes to diffuse it.

[IMWHFMPC]

If it was you and your 335 cab I'd have gladly apologized. You true baws.

You should wait until it is SAFE to turn right. You obviously did an unsafe turn causing him to slow for your action. What don't you understand? You assumed he was doing 100, that's no prove he was doing such speed. But the fact is that he did flash you and got behind your tail very close. Please learn from your experience and move on, don't ask us what would you do, because obviously we will not turn if we see a car coming very fast our way.

[AudiDude]

Maybe it was this guy driving his other car.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUfHxsw0suE

Either way a blank, stupid stare, will make him go away or if you want to piss him off wave, say thank you, and drive away.

[sappo569]

Just smile and wave, life is short.

[hdave]

Well.. It was kind of your fault, you should be looking to see how fast he's going.

So in that type of case, I usually say "Hey I'm sorry man I didn't check to see how fast you were going"
If it was something I felt was not my fault, I'd tell him to f off or just flip the bird.

[iownyou]

ppl often go 80km/hr in a 60 zone, but just because they do it, doesn't make it right.... STOP SPEEDING...
btw, i didn't know what bau5 was....so i had to google.... even now i'm still not sure what you mean by driving like one...

[slomo]

Maybe it was this guy driving his other car.

:lol: Well, I have been to Moscow, it was really bad but I have never seen it this bad. Maybe merge back and ask him to play Russian roulette? With his semi auto, he has to have the first try. :D

[iownyou]

Maybe it was this guy driving his other car.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUfHxsw0suE

Either way a blank, stupid stare, will make him go away or if you want to piss him off wave, say thank you, and drive away.

waving a gun like that is plain stupid... esp since he will be stuck at the scene with no where to go.....

[IMWHFMPC]

OP got flamed and left, LOL!

[Little Tim]

It's always better to extinguish a situation. Just swallow some pride and let him be a douche to someone else.

[flyinggonzo]

It's absolutely the OP's fault. Can you imagine if he caused an accident how his explanation would sound to the cops?

Yes officer, I switched lanes without looking because I misjudged the speed of the other car but I thought it was ok because he was driving an Audi and that automatically made him a douche which thus gave me the ability to move into whatever lane I wanted to without looking. Plus, he listens to Eurotrash music so there's really no argument here.

In all seriousness I'm not sure why people are dumping on the Audi driver. He almost got into a car accident because the car in front of him suddenly jumped into his lane almost causing an accident. I think any of us would be pretty pissed in that situation.

OP, I take it you live in the suburbs? Well if you ever drive in the city, please please please always check before you turn as it's really easy to kill a cyclist this way.

[cmdr_shepard]

waving a gun like that is plain stupid... esp since he will be stuck at the scene with no where to go.....

Yeah, but it's Russia. You could execute someone in broad daylight with a hundred people watching and still get away with it if you have enough money.

[macnut]

Yes officer, I switched lanes without looking ........


The OP didn't explain the situation too well.

I don't think it was a lane change problem - it was turning right into a different (2-lane) road, presumably after a stop or yield sign, and misjudging the speed of the Audi approaching (from the left) on that 2-lane road.

That is, the reference to the car behind applied only after he had made the turn. That is where I got confused with it initially. In fact, it has nothing to do with switching lanes.

The road he was on first was not a multi-lane one where he had to get into the right turn lane.

After he turned, whatever speed the Audi was doing, it evidently had to brake hard while the OP built up his speed to the normal for that highway.

From what the Audi driver said, it sounds to me like the OP didn't stop long enough before turning to judge that he could enter the new traffic flow safely.

The Audi should have had the right of way but the OP didn't give it to him. I would have been mad too.

Other respondents seemed to have understood what the OP meant, but I had real trouble with it at first as it just didn't make sense to me - until I figured it out.

[nasa25]

OP got flamed and left, LOL!

Just like you were busy picking up chicks in your "hot" car for a college student, I've been tending to other things.

Edit - just realized that you posted this comment over 24 hours after the last post - when the thread was probably on page 3.

Life lesson - resurrecting threads only to comment on the fact that the OP got flamed and left = douchy move. And then there's that whole 335 cab situation.....

[nasa25]

The OP didn't explain the situation too well.

I don't think it was a lane change problem - it was turning right into a different (2-lane) road, presumably after a stop or yield sign, and misjudging the speed of the Audi approaching (from the left) on that 2-lane road.

That is, the reference to the car behind applied only after he had made the turn. That is where I got confused with it initially. In fact, it has nothing to do with switching lanes.

The road he was on first was not a multi-lane one where he had to get into the right turn lane.

After he turned, whatever speed the Audi was doing, it evidently had to brake hard while the OP built up his speed to the normal for that highway.

From what the Audi driver said, it sounds to me like the OP didn't stop long enough before turning to judge that he could enter the new traffic flow safely.

The Audi should have had the right of way but the OP didn't give it to him. I would have been mad too.

Other respondents seemed to have understood what the OP meant, but I had real trouble with it at first as it just didn't make sense to me - until I figured it out.

Right turn onto one lane street. I stop and look to my left and Audi is pretty far back. I make the turn pretty quickly and Audi is on my tail which caught me by surprise. Audi had no choice but to slow down since changing lanes wasn't an option. I got into the left turn lane and Audi pulled up beside me. Guy started to squak.

I'll agree that I should have had a longer look to better judge the speed of the oncoming Audi.

[nasa25]

It's absolutely the OP's fault. Can you imagine if he caused an accident how his explanation would sound to the cops?

Yes officer, I switched lanes without looking because I misjudged the speed of the other car but I thought it was ok because he was driving an Audi and that automatically made him a douche which thus gave me the ability to move into whatever lane I wanted to without looking. Plus, he listens to Eurotrash music so there's really no argument here.

In all seriousness I'm not sure why people are dumping on the Audi driver. He almost got into a car accident because the car in front of him suddenly jumped into his lane almost causing an accident. I think any of us would be pretty pissed in that situation.

OP, I take it you live in the suburbs? Well if you ever drive in the city, please please please always check before you turn as it's really easy to kill a cyclist this way.

I think you missed the point of my thread. It's goal was to generate discussion on what one should do when faced with a confrontational situation, not to determine culpability.

[mucat]

Just say "I am sorry. (you have a bad childhood)". Done and done. Easy enough.

You don't have to specify what you are sorrying for.

[CatDog]

It was me since you didn't respond on LinkedIn, sorry OP