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citizen22
Jul 20th, 2012, 12:57 AM
All advice was very helpful, thank you.

Icedawn
Jul 20th, 2012, 07:26 AM
Who was this too? Your supervisor or someone in HR?

damnos
Jul 20th, 2012, 07:29 AM
I shot my question as follows:
'...is my salary around average of what most people in my role are offered' followed by reassurance that I am completely satisfied with it. I then inquired about post-probationary raise/earlier than yearly review?


That's a very bad move and a very bad question after working for a few days - you haven't even proven yourself yet, why would you already be asking for raises and stuff.

- any discussion on review process (especially possibility of post-probationary raise) should have been discussed during negotiation before acceptance
- you should have done your research what's the market average is for your position to know how the offer stands in the market

seriously, that was a bad move.

Aristophanes
Jul 20th, 2012, 08:03 AM
That's a very bad move and a very bad question after working for a few days - you haven't even proven yourself yet, why would you already be asking for raises and stuff.

- any discussion on review process (especially possibility of post-probationary raise) should have been discussed during negotiation before acceptance
- you should have done your research what's the market average is for your position to know how the offer stands in the market

seriously, that was a bad move.

I concur.

citizen22
Jul 20th, 2012, 11:36 AM
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flyinggonzo
Jul 20th, 2012, 11:56 AM
I find it odd that you can't even be honest with yourself on the intent of your email. You were asking for a raise and signalling that you are always looking out for your best interests. There's no ambiguity here. It's a f-up.

The only thing you are going to be evaluated on at this stage is how you handle it. If I were you, I'd have a very brief discussion with the person you sent the email to and clarify that you were super excited about working for them and it wasn't that important to you given your comfort level with everything you knew about the company, but had received advice from some friends about DD questions to ask before accepting a position, and in a moment of admitted stupidity, asked a check-the-box type diligence question without thinking through how the message would be construed. Obviously, it was not a top-of-mind concern for you as you did not broach the question during the process and you don't want the email to be construed as any dissatisfaction with working here and that you're really enjoying working at the company and am super impressed with your colleagues and excited by the role thus far.

Then, leave it at that and NEVER speak to HR or anyone about job related concerns without running your questions before other persons first.

hotdawg100
Jul 20th, 2012, 12:31 PM
I don't think this is that big a deal, you explained yourself, if you keep talking about it the more that person think into it. Just leave it alone people ask about salary to HR, that's what they are there for, inquire again during your review

citizen22
Jul 20th, 2012, 01:10 PM
Thanks for the advice.

I will note that I asked my question via phone call.

tylaw83
Jul 20th, 2012, 01:12 PM
I don't think this is that big a deal, you explained yourself, if you keep talking about it the more that person think into it. Just leave it alone people ask about salary to HR, that's what they are there for, inquire again during your review

Dont listen to this guy. The only point at which HR is involved in determination of salary is when they do their annual compensation survey.

citizen22
Jul 20th, 2012, 01:38 PM
Dont listen to this guy. The only point at which HR is involved in determination of salary is when they do their annual compensation survey.



Tylaw83, I respect your advice more than most. Can you weigh in on this issue?

hotdawg100
Jul 20th, 2012, 03:16 PM
whatever , its only an issue if u keep making it a bigger issue than it needs to be

danfromwaterloo
Jul 20th, 2012, 05:01 PM
Tylaw83, I respect your advice more than most. Can you weigh in on this issue?

I believe flyinggonzo said it best. Go have a talk with the HR person you talked with, and patch this stuff up ASAP. Then, pray they understand. If someone asked me on the first day about raises, I'd be trying to figure out the easiest way to get rid of them. Considering you're on probation, they don't need to do much. Go, take them for coffee, apologize, and come up with a GOOD explanation as to why you were inquiring about money the first day, and try to put it to bed.

This is probably one of the dumbest moves I've heard of, and a very easy way to limit one's career.

danfromwaterloo
Jul 20th, 2012, 05:04 PM
Dont listen to this guy. The only point at which HR is involved in determination of salary is when they do their annual compensation survey.

That's not true. It depends on the organization. Some places, HR runs the gauntlet, and in some, they stay hands off.