Toronto water contains Fluoride

[DaleCooper]

Fluoride is added to treated water to reduce the risk of dental cavities. Toronto Public Health advises the City about setting the fluoride target level for treated water. And in keeping with Health Canada Guidelines, our fluoride level maximizes dental health benefits and minimizes concerns about over exposure.

http://www.toronto.ca/water/faq.htm#a005


Fluoride is a medication. I never gave consent about being forced to be medicated. This is one of those things where we take it as the sheep that we are and it receives no public attention whatsoever.

[gouki556]

Lol you just figured this out

[Ottomaddox]

Just filter the water through your tinfoil hat.

[DaleCooper]

Lol you just figured this out

Unfortunately yes.

And I like the taste.

[45ED]

Fantastic, another user who's suspicious of everything. Because RFD needs more of them like it needs trolls.

[ishfish]

It is more of a supplement than a medication.

It is an issue that receives attention when it is added to and when it is withdrawn from the water supply.

[Simaahoy]

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[cronichead]

oldddd dont forget about lead... oh yea olddddd

[HTTP04]

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[arclite]

You are free to move to places without such an infrastructure to deliver fluorine.

[mysticalinfluence]

Just filter the water through your tinfoil hat.

:lol:

[Fire Man]

What else do you expect companies to do with their toxic that they can't dump back into the environment? Sell them to the government for millions and send it down our gullets.

[Jimboski]

Lol OP.

[wilsonlam97]

Oh OP. I learned about this back in gr.3 lol. It's nothing to worry about. I prefer it this way in fact.

[Pete_Coach]

Whats wrong with fluoride? It is considered by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as "one of 10 great public health achievements of the 20th century". http://www.news-medical.net/health/Fluoride-Uses.aspx

Then again, rats given one part per million of Sodium Fluoride had offspring crippled at birth. http://www.kabencompany.com/article-FF-flouride-effects.html

Geez OP, I don't know how you should cope with this. Maybe double line that tinfoil hat?

[mbg]

so it's good for people that can't afford dental care.

Given that this seems to be Summer of the Bum in Toronto this year, I am kind glad my winos have teeth.

[Laflare]

who actually drinks tap water... thats insane lol, they have non flouride bottled water.. i allways make sure it says 0.02 or less on a bottle before i buy it..but i prefer the complete 100 percent non flouride water but sometimes its hard to get it

[Laflare]

so it's good for people that can't afford dental care.

Given that this seems to be Summer of the Bum in Toronto this year, I am kind glad my winos have teeth.

i allways said this is stupid when i drink water i dont even let it touch my teeth really so its very stupid that it helps teeth.. why would i drink something that prevents cavities .i use tap water as mouth wash haa.. dont ingest that *****

[brian.gerson]

You know when fluoridation first began? Nineteen hundred and forty-six. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

[jaysfan4life]

I really don't understand how this is not breaking news

[Conquistador]

who actually drinks tap water... thats insane lol, they have non flouride bottled water.. i allways make sure it says 0.02 or less on a bottle before i buy it..but i prefer the complete 100 percent non flouride water but sometimes its hard to get it


i allways said this is stupid when i drink water i dont even let it touch my teeth really so its very stupid that it helps teeth.. why would i drink something that prevents cavities .i use tap water as mouth wash haa.. dont ingest that *****

Absolutely ridiculous. :facepalm:

Cleary you're a product of a highly successful marketing strategy. You know that Evian spelled backwards is naive?

[mbg]

i allways said this is stupid when i drink water i dont even let it touch my teeth really so its very stupid that it helps teeth.. why would i drink something that prevents cavities .i use tap water as mouth wash haa.. dont ingest that *****

It's not about having it touch your teeth, but maintaining a concentration of fluoride in your saliva... I think.

I would like to inject flouride into my body to make my bones stronger but I don't know the best place to inject.

[mbg]

who actually drinks tap water... thats insane lol, they have non flouride bottled water.. i allways make sure it says 0.02 or less on a bottle before i buy it..but i prefer the complete 100 percent non flouride water but sometimes its hard to get it

Well maybe that's because fluoride naturally occurs in water, just like sodium does... because rocks contain it.

Distilled water may not contain much of it, but distilled water is about as natural as fluoridated municipal water.

[stealth]

You know when fluoridation first began? Nineteen hundred and forty-six. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

I agree....I dont particularly like fluoridation of public water supplys.
I don't lose sleep over it, but it doesnt make sense to me. Lots of ppl also have deficiencies of calcium, iron, etc but we don't force that on them....why dont we just run Gatorade through the taps or something? Why stop there, maybe antibiotics too etc? There a lot of wrong that can be done in the name of health and safety.

[mbg]

why dont we just run Gatorade through the taps or something? Why stop there, maybe antibiotics too etc? There a lot of wrong that can be done in the name of health and safety.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vw2CrY9Igs

[Piro21]

I wonder if the OP gets this upset over the free vitamin D he gets from the sun, too. It's a medication, and he never consented to it. What kind of commie came up with 'the sun', anyways? People can survive just fine at night.

[DaleCooper]

I wonder if the OP gets this upset over the free vitamin D he gets from the sun, too. It's a medication, and he never consented to it. What kind of commie came up with 'the sun', anyways? People can survive just fine at night.

This is just a silly argument. Sun is sun and there is no choice.

This RFD sure looks like a smart bunch.

[stealth]

I wonder if the OP gets this upset over the free vitamin D he gets from the sun, too. It's a medication, and he never consented to it. What kind of commie came up with 'the sun', anyways? People can survive just fine at night.

Tooth decay is also "naturally occurring" so is testosterone. I would want neither in my water supply.

Your analogy would make more sense if they were putting oral sunscreen in the water...and why not? Skin cancer is a bigger problem than tooth decay...how many ppl aren't brushing their teeth these days anyways? Geez. Fluoride is about as necessary as something that fights scurvy.

Why not leave fluoride out of water and make toothpaste free instead?

[wilsonlam97]

The city was letting people try their water at some street festival and it was designed like a drinking fountain. So I tried using it only to be scorned by this prune old lady that was supposedly supervising the station. Idk but what does a torontonian do when they see a water station on a hot day? Drink from it right? No. You must have a bottle.

There was no sign so I assumed it to be a water fountain. I was wrong. I was kinda pissed though because the old prune lady yelled at me the even though I was walking away.

[mbg]

The city was letting people try their water at some street festival and it was designed like a drinking fountain. So I tried using it only to be scorned by this prune old lady that was supposedly supervising the station. Idk but what does a torontonian do when they see a water station on a hot day? Drink from it right? No. You must have a bottle.

There was no sign so I assumed it to be a water fountain. I was wrong. I was kinda pissed though because the old prune lady yelled at me the even though I was walking away.

the prune old lady is rightz. drink from the doggie fountain if you ain't got no bottle.

[wilsonlam97]

the prune old lady is rightz. drink from the doggie fountain if you ain't got no bottle.

It was obviously designed to be a drinking fountain though.

[ronin1701]

I agree....I dont particularly like fluoridation of public water supplys.
I don't lose sleep over it, but it doesnt make sense to me. Lots of ppl also have deficiencies of calcium, iron, etc but we don't force that on them....why dont we just run Gatorade through the taps or something? Why stop there, maybe antibiotics too etc? There a lot of wrong that can be done in the name of health and safety.

People have deficiencies in iodine as well.

How do we get around that? Iodine is added to table salt.

[ishfish]

A lot of foods are enriched or fortified to the benefit of The Population.

There is nothing wrong with questioning it, but the OP did not articulate a concern beyond consent.

I know flouride treatment (as done at the dentist) is no longer seen as beneficial to adults, but it does make a big difference in the teeth of children

[stealth]

A lot of foods are enriched or fortified to the benefit of The Population.

There is nothing wrong with questioning it, but the OP did not articulate a concern beyond consent.

I know flouride treatment (as done at the dentist) is no longer seen as beneficial to adults, but it does make a big difference in the teeth of children

I agree..I think consent and awareness are at the heart of the matter. I am knowledgeable enough to be aware, and act accordingly, but I dont think everyone has this info. Why doesn't an info pamphlet about fluoride go out with the water bill very so often?

Providers should take greater responsibility to inform their customers.

[stealth]

People have deficiencies in iodine as well.

How do we get around that? Iodine is added to table salt.

Nicotine is produced naturally in the body as well...and yet nicotine from external sources in high doses is a bad thing.

These analogies are fun, but we can go all day with them.

[gman]

This is just a silly argument. Sun is sun and there is no choice.

This RFD sure looks like a smart bunch.

Of course, you have a choice. You could dress like those who cover the whole body and wear a "wielding mask" to avoid sun ray.
By the way, just in case you also don't know, water has calcium too.

[ishfish]

I agree..I think consent and awareness are at the heart of the matter. I am knowledgeable enough to be aware, and act accordingly, but I dont think everyone has this info. Why doesn't an info pamphlet about fluoride go out with the water bill very so often?

Providers should take greater responsibility to inform their customers.

Health Canada has info on flouride in the water on its' site. http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/environ/fluor-eng.php

I imagine most people would not read such a pamphlet - maybe a link to the info would be the mosst cost effective way to help concerned consumers seeking better information.

[Akraz]

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HOLY ***** bro I knew this back in kindergarten. 21 years ago.

Who the hell doesnt know this? Unless you are a newly-landed immigrant.

[Nettles]

Actually the fluoride isn't as much of a concern as the water hardness from all unfiltered water. Basically we have too many minerals in our water, it's inefficient when it comes to cleaning (eg: you'd need far less detergent or soap in a dishwasher if the water was soft or contained less minerals). The health effects of that....there aren't really studies. Some say that our hard water is safe to drink and you need minerals at that level, others say it's too much and others say that filtered water is worse for you because of sodium filters or whatever. It's pretty hard to judge, the gov't is obviously gonna say that the water is safe but the same water they send to a farm is what they'd be okay with sending to a city in terms of ppm.

[stealth]

Health Canada has info on flouride in the water on its' site. http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/environ/fluor-eng.php

I imagine most people would not read such a pamphlet - maybe a link to the info would be the mosst cost effective way to help concerned consumers seeking better information.
I disagree.. I think anyone older that Generation X, which is a large part of the home ownership population, does not seek all of their info from obscure webpages..try this..go to your mother (not email) and tell her there's some important info she would read on that web page you just cited. Post back with what happens.old people read snail mail. And bills always get looked at.

[ishfish]

I disagree.. I think anyone older that Generation X, which is a large part of the home ownership population, does not seek all of their info from obscure webpages..try this..go to your mother (not email) and tell her there's some important info she would read on that web page you just cited. Post back with what happens.old people read snail mail. And bills always get looked at.

Good point - except my mom is very computer competent.

Maybe the supplier does not want to put pamphlets in with the bills due to not wanting to stir up a contraversy. I am all for informed consent - but they are not asking for consent and are not reviewing its' being added to the water. But hear me say I am not against such info being added to an occassional bill. I just think there is a reason they do not: it would be an invitation to be flamed.

[stealth]

Good point - except my mom is very computer competent.

Maybe the supplier does not want to put pamphlets in with the bills due to not wanting to stir up a contraversy. I am all for informed consent - but they are not asking for consent and are not reviewing its' being added to the water. But hear me say I am not against such info being added to an occassional bill. I just think there is a reason they do not: it would be an invitation to be flamed.
Fair enough.
Ya I agree, that's likely the reason as well, but IMO, that makes them not much better than tobacco companies that also didn't want to stir up controversy with awareness and disclosure. Or more fairly, food companies that didn't want to put nutitional info about their products on their packages.

[time space]

Lol you just figured this out

It's 1950 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_controversy#History) all over again!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Unholy_three_cropped.png

[ishfish]

Fair enough.
Ya I agree, that's likely the reason as well, but IMO, that makes them not much better than tobacco companies that also didn't want to stir up controversy with awareness and disclosure. Or more fairly, food companies that didn't want to put nutitional info about their products on their packages.

Ha. In all fairness there are some benefits to flouride.
Tobacco - they just want your addiction and $.

[king_george]

AND THEY PUT CHLORINE ALONG WITH FLOURIDE!!!!!!!!!!

Why do the elites of the world poison us with this toxic chemical. WHY I SAY!!!!!

OP is funny.

[scoobydoo]

You know when fluoridation first began? Nineteen hundred and forty-six. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

Interesting. Hitler also fluoridated water in concentration camps. I guess he really cared about their teeth.

[king_george]

Interesting. Hitler also fluoridated water in concentration camps. I guess he really cared about their teeth.

Another urban myth put forth by the Prosin Planet type stupids of the world..... :lol:

Oh yes Godwinned.

/thread

[cire]

m.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/jun/12/medicineandhealth.genderissues?cat=society&type=article

[george__]

It's in our tooth paste...

[medalgo]

another fine thread to see selective moderation on RFD

[scoobydoo]

Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura on truTV

Fluoride is An extremely neurotoxic chemical added to drinking water that interrupts the basic function of nerve cells in the brain, causing docile submissive behavior and IQ devastation

Did you know that sodium Fluoride is also one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin Nerve Gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphor​yl FLUORIDE) - The truth the American public needs to understand is the fact that Sodium Fluoride is nothing more (or less) than a hazardous waste by-product of the nuclear and aluminum industries. In addition to being the primary ingredient in rat and cockroach poisons, it is also a main ingredient in anesthetic, hypnotic, and psychiatric drugs as well as military NERVE GAS! Why then is it allowed to be added to the toothpastes and drinking water of the American people?

Fluoride Used by Nazis to Sterilize Inmates and Make Them Docile

Fluoride has been historically used as a tool to oppress populations and was highly regulated. But because modern industry wants to make $$$, they have forced the idea that it is "good" for our teeth and it has poisoned a good portion of society.



Selected Timeline of Fluoride


1940 · Soviet concentration camps maintained by fluoride administration to inmates to decrease resistance to authority and induce physical deteriorization.

1942 · Germany becomes worlds largest producer of aluminum (and Sodium Fluoride). Fluoride is used in the concentration camps to render the prisoners docile and inhibit the questioning of authority.

1943 · Researchers from the US Public Health Service examine the health of residents of Bartlett, Texas to see if the 8ppm fluoride in the drinking water was affecting their health. It was checked again in 1953. They find that the death rate in Bartlett was three times higher than a neighboring town which contained 0.4 ppm fluoride.
1944 · "Even at 1ppm, fluoride in drinking water poisons cattle, horses and sheep" (Moules, G.R., Water Pollution Research and Summary of Current Literature, 1944.

1995 · A Chinese study on fluorides finds that the IQ of children is lowered in fluoridated areas. Zhang, I.B., et al, "Effect of a High Fluoride Water Supply on Children's Intelligence" [Pending Publication]



Facts of Fluoride

· Further studies by the New Jersey Department of Health have now confirmed a 6.9 fold increase in bone cancer in young males.

· Fluoride Increases Hip Fractures

· Drinking fluoridated water will double the number of hip fractures for both older men and women.

· Fluoride Increases Infertility

· Infertility in women was found to increase with water fluoridation.

· Food and Drug Administration (FDA) scientists reported a close correlation between decreasing total fertility rates in women between ages of 10 and 49, and increasing fluoride levels.

· Fluoride Is Unapproved By FDA

· The FDA considers fluoride an unapproved new drug for which there is no proof of safety or effectiveness.

· The FDA does not consider fluoride an essential nutrient.

· Fluoride Is Highly Toxic

· The International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology has classified Fluoride as an unapproved dental medicament due to its high toxicity.


Links:
Fluoride and The Pineal Gland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSZQ3ixu7a4

What is Being Put in the Water:
FLUOROSILICIC ACID (HYDROFLUOROSILICIC ACID)
http://www.chemicalland21.com/industrialchem/inorganic/FLUOROSILICIC%20ACID.htm

Calcium Fluoride (Occurs Naturally):
http://en.wikipedia.org/​wiki/Calcium_fluoride

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorosis

http://curezone.com/dental/fluoride.asp
http://www.fluoridealert.org/
http://www.wholywater.com/fluoride.html

http://www.fluoridealert.org/


Movies:
The Fluoride Deception(Chris Bryson) - http://youtu.be/Q3y8uwtxrHo

The Fluoride Deception (Mike Adams) - http://youtu.be/LEZ15m-D_n8

The Fluoride Deception (Stanley Monteith) - http://youtu.be/dA2hil0iKsk

Professional Perspectives on Water Fluoridation - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88pfVo3bZLY

The Bizarre History of Fluoride - http://youtu.be/4UTSEd7u6Yk

Fire Water: Australia's Industrial Fluoridation Disgrace - http://youtu.be/XfiCP3HYxFg

Why Fluoridation Should be Halted - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=27024316992​06958386&ei=9oV4ScSGLJ7Oqw​LYia2yBQ&q=Dr.+Vyvyan+Howa​rd%2C#

Fluoride: The Hard to Swallow Truth Documentary - http://youtu.be/7aTfyo0Xz_c — with Carla Pedersen Orton, Mary-Jane Rose, Colleen Raine Chretien and Yahcob Ben Ysryl.

[Agafaba]

who actually drinks tap water... thats insane lol, they have non flouride bottled water.. i allways make sure it says 0.02 or less on a bottle before i buy it..but i prefer the complete 100 percent non flouride water but sometimes its hard to get it

Anyone who is even the slightest bit informed about bottled water I would imagine...

[Frosc]

Fluoride is An extremely neurotoxic chemical added to drinking water that interrupts the basic function of nerve cells in the brain, causing docile submissive behavior and IQ devastation

Did you know that sodium Fluoride is also one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin Nerve Gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphor​yl FLUORIDE) - The truth the American public needs to understand is the fact that Sodium Fluoride is nothing more (or less) than a hazardous waste by-product of the nuclear and aluminum industries. In addition to being the primary ingredient in rat and cockroach poisons, it is also a main ingredient in anesthetic, hypnotic, and psychiatric drugs as well as military NERVE GAS! Why then is it allowed to be added to the toothpastes and drinking water of the American people?

Fluoride Used by Nazis to Sterilize Inmates and Make Them Docile

Fluoride has been historically used as a tool to oppress populations and was highly regulated. But because modern industry wants to make $$$, they have forced the idea that it is "good" for our teeth and it has poisoned a good portion of society.

Selected Timeline of Fluoride
1940 · Soviet concentration camps maintained by fluoride administration to inmates to decrease resistance to authority and induce physical deteriorization.
1942 · Germany becomes worlds largest producer of aluminum (and Sodium Fluoride). Fluoride is used in the concentration camps to render the prisoners docile and inhibit the questioning of authority.
1943 · Researchers from the US Public Health Service examine the health of residents of Bartlett, Texas to see if the 8ppm fluoride in the drinking water was affecting their health. It was checked again in 1953. They find that the death rate in Bartlett was three times higher than a neighboring town which contained 0.4 ppm fluoride.
1944 · "Even at 1ppm, fluoride in drinking water poisons cattle, horses and sheep" (Moules, G.R., Water Pollution Research and Summary of Current Literature, 1944.
1995 · A Chinese study on fluorides finds that the IQ of children is lowered in fluoridated areas. Zhang, I.B., et al, "Effect of a High Fluoride Water Supply on Children's Intelligence" [Pending Publication]

Facts of Fluoride
· Further studies by the New Jersey Department of Health have now confirmed a 6.9 fold increase in bone cancer in young males.
· Fluoride Increases Hip Fractures
· Drinking fluoridated water will double the number of hip fractures for both older men and women.
· Fluoride Increases Infertility
· Infertility in women was found to increase with water fluoridation.
· Food and Drug Administration (FDA) scientists reported a close correlation between decreasing total fertility rates in women between ages of 10 and 49, and increasing fluoride levels.
· Fluoride Is Unapproved By FDA
· The FDA considers fluoride an unapproved new drug for which there is no proof of safety or effectiveness.
· The FDA does not consider fluoride an essential nutrient.
· Fluoride Is Highly Toxic
· The International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology has classified Fluoride as an unapproved dental medicament due to its high toxicity.



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[MS MSP]

the OP was "permanently banned" might as well lock this one up.

IBTL