Russian Brides - Any Experience with this? Legal rules? cost etc?

[Schlampah]

Anybody here have experience with a "Russian mail order bride"? I have been thinking about getting one and am wondering all the details... such as the cost .. what websites / services you recommend to meet them...? also other legal issues such as immigration sponsorship costs / liabilities... etc

Looking for serious answers from people who have actually done this. The moral naysayers .. i really don't care what your opinion on this practice :)

[Xiaohaibao]

It's scam, they will leave you once they get their canadian papers, and with canadian laws being so whack the courts will give her half your money.

Why you can't find any girl in Canada? Or at least USA?

[ali123]

loooool lack of self confidence

[sandikosh]

The only prerequisite is that you must know how to play russian roulette.

[Xiaohaibao]

Is that supposed to be funny? Cause I don't get it.

[zz000ter]

The two things you need to know

1. They Russian brides will be much smarter than you are
2. The upfront cost might be relatively low
3. The longterm cost will be very high

You will get professionally milked - and not in a good way

[randomusername]

What about test drives?

[uzi969]

Anybody here have experience with a "Russian mail order bride"? I have been thinking about getting one and am wondering all the details... such as the cost .. what websites / services you recommend to meet them...? also other legal issues such as immigration sponsorship costs / liabilities... etc

Looking for serious answers from people who have actually done this. The moral naysayers .. i really don't care what your opinion on this practice :)

RFD is close but ultimately the wrong forum. You are looking for RWD http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com which can answer all of your questions.

[CanadaGooseForumAdmin]

Can we get a group buy going? Will shipping kill it?

[Xiaohaibao]

^^ Is that supposed to be funny?

[Ottomaddox]

Go on vacation to Cuba, and you'll have your pick.. and you'll get a better tan than in St. Petersburg.

[zz000ter]

How do you know you will get what you are expecting to get?
"Seeing" her on the Internet is one thing
but what shows up at the airport could be something else

[iEyeCaptain]

pm'ed for group buy

[Agafaba]

^^ Is that supposed to be funny?

Yes mildly, its mocking the OP by parodying a normal sale discussion on RFD. As you stay on the forums longer I am sure you will be able to recognise these subtle RFD jokes like the rest of us.

[Simaahoy]

Anybody here have experience with a "Russian mail order bride"? I have been thinking about getting one and am wondering all the details... such as the cost .. what websites / services you recommend to meet them...? also other legal issues such as immigration sponsorship costs / liabilities... etc

Looking for serious answers from people who have actually done this. The moral naysayers .. i really don't care what your opinion on this practice :)



Are you willing to provide financial support for three years even if she takes off?

[Xiaohaibao]

Yes mildly, its mocking the OP by parodying a normal sale discussion on RFD. As you stay on the forums longer I am sure you will be able to recognise these subtle RFD jokes like the rest of us.
:facepalm: I got it I just don't see how that joke is funny after being done 1000000 times.

[Agafaba]

:facepalm: I got it I just don't see how that joke is funny after being done 1000000 times.

I highly doubt its been done a million times... is there even a million posts on RFD let alone a million bad jokes?

[Xiaohaibao]

I highly doubt its been done a million times... is there even a million posts on RFD let alone a million bad jokes?
:facepalm: Was that supposed to be a joke? Cause it's not funny.

[Agafaba]

:facepalm: Was that supposed to be a joke? Cause it's not funny.

No, that was me expressing disbelief towards the number of bad jokes you claim to have read on RFD over the last month and a half.

[Pratzy]

Probably a bad idea since she might just leave you.
Maybe you could set up some sort of pre-nup so your $ stays in the bank ?

I think it's wrong to take advantage of a woman like that though... I shouldn't judge but...***** you.

[jaxx lite]

Anybody here have experience with a "Russian mail order bride"? I have been thinking about getting one

Why don't you go to church, temple, etc etc and try to find a wife

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[jaxx lite]

I think it's wrong to take advantage of a woman like that though... I shouldn't judge but...***** you.

She needs him too

2 way street

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[Simaahoy]

Probably a bad idea since she might just leave you.
Maybe you could set up some sort of pre-nup so your $ stays in the bank ?

I think it's wrong to take advantage of a woman like that though... I shouldn't judge but...***** you.

It's even, they're both taking advantage of each other..

[jaxx lite]

Become a Mormon / The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
and find wife who can speak English

http://mormon.org/worship

:idea::idea:

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[Conquistador]

:facepalm: I got it I just don't see how that joke is funny after being done 1000000 times.

If I've told you once I've told you a million times, stop exaggerating. :razz:

[mysticalinfluence]

How do you know you will get what you are expecting to get?
"Seeing" her on the Internet is one thing
but what shows up at the airport could be something else

No worries he use Pay Pal and can claim item not as described.

[NG]

It's even, they're both taking advantage of each other..

+1 Even trade.

[NG]

The two things you need to know

1. They Russian brides will be much smarter than you are
2. The upfront cost might be relatively low
3. The longterm cost will be very high

You will get professionally milked - and not in a good way

1) They'd be more likely to sign a pre-nup giving her nothing when they divorce
2) Even if she does leave him after 5 years and her citizenshop is secure - so what? Just order another.

[NG]

Btw OP before you order get fixed so she can't ding you on child support.

[ovechkin1]

anyone have any coupons? The prices are quite steep.

[CatDog]

No, that was me expressing disbelief towards the number of bad jokes you claim to have read on RFD over the last month and a half.

Don't mind Xiao, he's the resident off topic high net worth baller. All $100k of it.

[setell]

Have no experience with Russian brides but it happens. OP, why don't you get help from folks that have done it or go to a better message board. Ask people if they know people type of thing. Might be better to go by word of mouth + pictures vs an internet picture.

I personally think you should get out there and just ask women out. Go nuts from coffee shops, grocery stores, malls, streets etc. You probably aren't the clubbing type so talk to women in neutral settings where they are not on high alert for creeps. If you are self conscious about looks, nobody is butt ugly so remember that.

Good luck. :)

[RolandCouch]

^^ Is that supposed to be funny?

Don't mind this guy. He is just upset that he can't afford a Russian M.O.B. with his low net worth.

[Rainne]

Why not just go to the Philippines and find one there?

lol

[NorthYorker]

I know couple of ladies who got here (mostly from Ukraine) as MOBs and are living average family lives. However, I suspect that there're 10 stories ending in divorce and 100 scams per each success story :(

[whampoa]

Can we get a group buy going? Will shipping kill it?

And what's the refund and return policy?

[sylpherware]

Try contacting this user

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/w36pl/iama_russian_mail_order_bride_living_in_us_ama/

Interesting read.

So, from what I've gathered, she claims that the MOB girls signed on because:
1. Russians have higher standards for "young & hot", since >20yo is already considered as "old",
2. people in Russia have lower life-expectancy due to alcoholism and poor health-care,
3. some are in for the money, but most just want a "family" that they can't have in Russia,
4. very few of them are "damsels in distress".

I wonder, if we take a deeper look at those so-called "scams", would we simply find cases of un-happy marriage due to men refusing to treat the bride as a genuine person because they were "paid for". Unless there were clear signs of physical abuse, us men usually side with the husband in a divorce, thinking the woman was only in it for the money and status. But the truth is, we don't turn from "jerks who can't get a gf normally" to "devoted, loving husbands" just because we got married.

[dec12]

What about MOG? Mail ordered girlfriends? Not the rubber kind, not that I'm ever into it.

[sylpherware]

What about MOG? Mail ordered girlfriends? Not the rubber kind, not that I'm ever into it.

MOB + divorce = MOG ;)

[NorthYorker]

Interesting read.Yes, she sounds genuine enough. Somebody with Russian background, at very least.

we don't turn from "jerks who can't get a gf normally" to "devoted, loving husbands" just because we got married.Yes, 100% of Americans/Canadians who did MOB thingy are "fringe", in both successful and non-successful marriages. Adapting to very different mentality of your SO is difficult. One don't go this way unless s/he is unable to get a SO from "their" groups.

[dragon_drift]

Sorry no refunds or exchanges if not BNIB sealed.

[Ottomaddox]

Sorry no refunds or exchanges if not BNIB sealed.

I don't think you're going to find anything on these girls BNIB.

[sylpherware]

Further reading on the comments from that Reddit link, it seems like WWII caused a huge imbalance between the male & female population. That's why eligible women are sent overseas to find a husband. :|

[Xiaohaibao]

Sorry no refunds or exchanges if not BNIB sealed.
Was that supposed to be a joke? Cause it's pretty unfunny.

[Xiaohaibao]

If I've told you once I've told you a million times, stop exaggerating. :razz:
^^ See this was actually kind of funny.

The rest of the jokes aren't. I've notice most RFD posters think they are funny but most of them are highly unfunny.

[Xiaohaibao]

Further reading on the comments from that Reddit link, it seems like WWII caused a huge imbalance between the male & female population. That's why eligible women are sent overseas to find a husband. :|
Maybe you didn't know but WWII was 70 years ago. So yes there is a gender imbalance, of old people. Probably not many of them trying to get married.

[Agafaba]

Was that supposed to be a joke? Cause it's pretty unfunny.

This was another parody, I am surprised you didnt recognise it.


^^ See this was actually kind of funny.

The rest of the jokes aren't. I've notice most RFD posters think they are funny but most of them are highly unfunny.

Really that depends on an individuals definition of funny. Most of the posts you were not sure about were parodies, perhaps your just not a very big fan of that style of comedy?

[ssbtech]

Mail order bride? Make sure you get shipping insurance, I've had many packages damaged in the mail. She might arrive with a leg snapped off or something.

[sylpherware]

Maybe you didn't know but WWII was 70 years ago. So yes there is a gender imbalance, of old people. Probably not many of them trying to get married.

Oh, sh... serious? 70 years ago?! Man, time sure flies! :lol:

btw, group-buying time, pm if you're in!

[Xiaohaibao]

Really that depends on an individuals definition of funny. Most of the posts you were not sure about were parodies, perhaps your just not a very big fan of that style of comedy?
It has nothing to do with the style of comedy, it's the fact that this exact joke has been done too many times on this board. Every time someone create a topic about some item that is not typically bought or purchased, someone will make a joke about "group buy" or "get shipping insurance". How many times does this same joke need to be made? Maybe it was funny the first time someone made it, maybe even the second time, but by now how can someone still think they are funny when they repeat a joke that has been done so much? Another one is the "rim job" joke every time someone start a topic about RIM.

[Xiaohaibao]

Oh, sh... serious? 70 years ago?! Man, time sure flies! :lol:

Maybe you can explain why the fact that many men died during WWII would create a gender imbalance among marrying age people today 70 years later?

[Agafaba]

It has nothing to do with the style of comedy, it's the fact that this exact joke has been done too many times on this board. Every time someone create a topic about some item that is not typically bought or purchased, someone will make a joke about "group buy" or "get shipping insurance". How many times does this same joke need to be made? Maybe it was funny the first time someone made it, maybe even the second time, but by now how can someone still think they are funny when they repeat a joke that has been done so much? Another one is the "rim job" joke every time someone start a topic about RIM.

Haha teasing you aside I will ask you a serious question. Whats more useless, an overdone joke or someone who complains about an overdone joke?

[sylpherware]

Maybe you can explain why the fact that many men died during WWII would create a gender imbalance among marrying age people today 70 years later?

Wars have greater impact on society on top of those killed at the front line.

[sylpherware]

Haha teasing you aside I will ask you a serious question. Whats more useless, an overdone joke or someone who complains about an overdone joke?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5reDsSIiAk

[Ottomaddox]

It has nothing to do with the style of comedy, it's the fact that this exact joke has been done too many times on this board. Every time someone create a topic about some item that is not typically bought or purchased, someone will make a joke about "group buy" or "get shipping insurance". How many times does this same joke need to be made? Maybe it was funny the first time someone made it, maybe even the second time, but by now how can someone still think they are funny when they repeat a joke that has been done so much? Another one is the "rim job" joke every time someone start a topic about RIM.

Dude, you need to get more fiber in your diet.

[trixstar]

i was thinking about it, but she required an astronomically high net worth of 100k, not including my 2006 like new MDX

[dragon_drift]

This was another parody, I am surprised you didnt recognise it.



Really that depends on an individuals definition of funny. Most of the posts you were not sure about were parodies, perhaps your just not a very big fan of that style of comedy?

Judging from his username, he probably doesn't get North American jokes.

[ThaChingster]

Maybe you can explain why the fact that many men died during WWII would create a gender imbalance among marrying age people today 70 years later?

do you think you are a little seal? you should be glad you're so cute
http://www.aokpressurewashing.ca/images/seal-baby.jpg

and in response to your post - Lets assume only men went and died at war during WWII. The lack of fertile males back home would have increased in comparison to the female population. When repopulating, assume a 50/50 chance of having a female or male child - this means that the gap between the number of males and females would stay the close to the same no matter how many children are had(we can't choose the gender of a child, AFAIK).

[The Templar Knight]

Hopefully, the Federal Government shuts the door tight on this Mail Order Bride nonsense.

[NG]

Hopefully, the Federal Government shuts the door tight on this Mail Order Bride nonsense.

And why should you or the government be able to tell me I can't marry someone from another country?

[Simaahoy]

Hopefully, the Federal Government shuts the door tight on this Mail Order Bride nonsense.

+1

[NorthYorker]

Maybe you can explain why the fact that many men died during WWII would create a gender imbalance among marrying age people today 70 years later?It bred the mentality. Men became a prized possession back then, triggering a stereotype "woman should look beautiful and work hard to get a man". There's nothing even close to this level of statistical imbalance now, but stereotype endured. Besides, vodka and general hopelessness of post-communist life outside of major cities did create an imbalance (men are dying young from heart attacks trying to dig themselves out of existence which offer no hope or stability, drinking themselves to death if they're give up, or just dying in "russian roulette"-type accidents bred by the same lack of future), so old cliche has new soil to feed off.

There's on curious and sad exception, though. Russian Jews. Jewish men fighting in the \Red Army during WWII had more chances to survive then civvies exterminated by Nazis, so there were many eligible men (youths and widowers) post-war and not enough brides. It bred the situation of up to 1/3 Jews of this generation being in mixed marriages (Jewish husband and Gentile wife).

[Rainne]

Tbh, if you can't even get a gf here, there must be something wrong with your communication problems/ability to adapt into society's norms/expectations so what makes you think it'll be easier to get along with a foreign woman with a completely different culture?

The only reason she'll like you is because: #1 you are offering her a different lifestyle, #2 she has no better option

[kenchau66]

forever aloner level 99

dat feel bro i know well

[dazz]

Someone who has a few friends who are dating a few of them I have to say that not all of them are bad. I can also tell you my observations and their comments and it's talked a lot when we all meet(it's also relevant for Ukranian,Latvian,Polish girls too)
They do want a man who can take care of them and they do want a family. They don't want a drunk poor guy with no manners though and they will only like you if you are well educated(at least 1 university degree as all of them have one too)
The marriages fall apart because the guys who do go for mail-order brides tend to be weirdos with issues...so after a while those girls realize that it isn't worth it and divorce(probably for the 2nd time unless she is 19-20. People tend to be married by the age of 24 in Russia. A single 25-30 years old means she is divorced. And divorce rates went up in the last 10 years as it became ok to do so. Previously it was looked down upon. Most of them also have kids from their marriages and not always they would tell you that upfront.

Overall, they are nice girls

[Royalsoldier]

Try contacting this user

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/w36pl/iama_russian_mail_order_bride_living_in_us_ama/

Very interesting read. Wasn't aware that it was so different over there.

@dazz
That's what I noticed too. Most of the stories I read regarding mail-order-bride failures were attributed to a lousy husband (a mix of physical/mental abuse, immaturity, poor hygiene, uneducated/poor, used only as a sex objects, mental disorders, "creeps", etc.). It's a shame that these young women who are looking for a legitimate relationship/real life move to the US/CAN only to find that their lives here are sometimes worse than their lives in Russia. There are still scammers out there too, OP, so careful - after marriage, I wouldn't share my bank account/PIN/CC, etc. unless I had a separate secret bank account with most of my savings hidden away that nobody knew about. I would also not follow through with someone who did not seek employment when they arrived.

[wilsonlam97]

I thought this was a joke but after reading that thread on Reddit I feel that there is a chance OP may be serious.

[Royalsoldier]

I thought this was a joke but after reading that thread on Reddit I feel that there is a chance OP may be serious.

I thought he was serious :) Some men prefer women who value family/future life rather than materialistic Western women who care about their iPhone and shoes more than they do you.

[wilsonlam97]

I thought he was serious :) Some men prefer women who value family/future life rather than materialistic Western women who care about their iPhone and shoes more than they do you.

I just care about truthfulness and abilities to share my opinions. I don't ask for much. And DAT @$$ lol!

[Coz4k]

lol can't be srs

[VonMatterhorn]

^^ Is that supposed to be funny?

Made me laugh ;D