Strip clubs set to recruit high school students

[zz000ter]

Source: http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2012/07/22/20014641.html

This sounds very wrong to me.
College and university kids are fair game as they are adults
but targeting high school kids is absurd.

Interesting strip industry trivia

There are 38,000 strippers working in clubs across Canada. Most of them dance in Toronto, Windsor, Ont., London, Ont., Montreal, Ottawa, Winnipeg and Calgary.



Students already stripping to pay tuition: Club owner

One popular Toronto strip club owner says his stable of exotic dancers include more than a dozen college or university students.

The well-known Toronto businessman, who did not want to be publicly identified, said two of his dancers are studying to become doctors; four are attending law school and six are taking classes to become chartered accountants.

[Xiaohaibao]

two of his dancers are studying to become doctors; four are attending law school and six are taking classes to become chartered accountants.
I bet most of them will flunk out.

The "stripping to put myself thru college" thing doesn't make sense in Canada where anyone can get a student loan.

[Piro21]

Not only that, but the military actively recruits the same way! How dare these organizations think adults can make their own choices!? I know all the 18-year-olds I know will do exactly as a flyer tells them to without question.

[divx]

i don't see any issues with this, some escorts make $350/h, they'd laugh at my salary

[Ottomaddox]

Meh, it sounds like the bar owners are playing this up to enrage the public and get the visas approved again. Nobody cares if girls from other countries are victimized....

[arm2000]

Nothing new except the national origin of the stripper. Why do you care more now than when strippers were from China and others? Oh, maybe because the services will be more expensive?

[Mr.Sea]

I bet most of them will flunk out.

The "stripping to put myself thru college" thing doesn't make sense in Canada where anyone can get a student loan.

A loan equates the debt.
Stripping equates to earning money.

[webdoctors]

i thought Canada was liberal, when did we become so conservative?

[sandikosh]

My days of going to the strip club was the most exciting of all. The anticipation and the teasing of the stripper drove me crazy!

[zz000ter]

I actually think that going to a strip club is for losers.
Pay money to see a piece of flesh.

Don't you guys know that these dancers see you just as wallets
- I knew a stripper many years ago - a friend of a friend

The strippers look down on the guys as losers
it is all a game to them - about getting as much money out of you as possible

If you know this - how can you go and so freely give money to see some flesh?

[djemzine]

Wait a minute, isn't the legal age to become a stripper lets say in Ontario is 19? Or has that changed for some reason? I know in Alberta and Quebec its fine as its 18 there for most things.

This is just wrong btw.

[Pratzy]

Rather than just ban visas on foreign women who come to work as strippers here in Canada, maybe it would be better of they had set up some kind of support system to ensure the safety and wellness of these women who come here to do this kind of work. If they are abused in Canada itself, then they will definitely be going through hell in their own countries.

If its a question of using the taxpayer's money to support these women, I am sure the government could come up with a suitable tax for these strip clubs, after all they're the ones aggressively pushing to let these women come here and work.

Regulation and taking the initiative to set up proper support for foreign strippers is all that stands between a win-win situation for the government and these women who are in search of a better life.

[jaxx lite]

This is just wrong btw.

Who is going to pay for the students' living expenses?

Some people have poor families

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[zz000ter]

Only 800 of the 38,000 strippers are foreigners

[uber_shnitz]

If the students are 18 they are free to make their own choices, I don't see why them being in high school has anything to do with it. Most people who would veer towards this kind of work would do it regardless of recruiting happening directly in their faces IMO. I don't think the majority of girls go "hmm idk if I should go strip...oh look a booth at my local job fair! I'll sign up right now!"

[CanadaGooseForumAdmin]

The article and video says they're seeking Canadian men to marry so that they can stay in the country. Where can I sign up for that priority list? :lol:

[zz000ter]

The article and video says they're seeking Canadian men to marry so that they can stay in the country. Where can I sign up for that priority list? :lol:

Are you serious?
Do you have no self worth?
You will be responsible for her for a long long time

[uber_shnitz]

Are you serious?
Do you have no self worth?
You will be responsible for her for a long long time

The ":lol:" would imply he wasn't serious I believe.

[vero95]

it will be hard for them to work in the office after they graduate for the salary probablay worth 10% of what they were making when stripping

[aplayaz2000]

school girls as strippers

hmm for some reason that turns me on

[NG]

Are you serious?
Do you have no self worth?
You will be responsible for her for a long long time

Logic dictates that there'll be a pre-nup so he can leave her if she stops putting out, has to go back to Poland (or whatever third world country) or when she stops being hot.

[BornRuff]

I bet most of them will flunk out.

The "stripping to put myself thru college" thing doesn't make sense in Canada where anyone can get a student loan.

Doctors and Lawyers can easily graduate with 6 figure debt. If you can find a way to literally have people throw money at you and avoid this massive pile of debt, it is not hard to see why people would go for it.

[Beradon]

Doctors and Lawyers can easily graduate with 6 figure debt. If you can find a way to literally have people throw money at you and avoid this massive pile of debt, it is not hard to see why people would go for it.
Exactly. The salary you make as a stripper far exceeds what you will make at McD's. So not only do you make enough to pay for tuition but you also make enough to live comfortably with food and rent taken care of. Since you don't have to work as many hours compared to someone working minimum wage you get more to put more hours into your studies and graduate with a higher GPA and no debt! :D

A bonus for the patrons: some of the best nubile girls come straight out of high school! :twisted:

[forthewinwin]

Meh.. I mean, both sides are getting what they want. Men getting an enjoyable visual, and the girls getting an above-average wage. If no one is complaining too much, then it seems fine to me.

Not that I'm a fan of strip clubs, but I'm not against the idea.

[ovechkin1]

Stupid government declining visas to foreign strippers are really gonna put the industry to sh1t. Those are the best kind, nicer, cleaner and a whole lot hotter then fat cellulite Canadian strippers. As far as High School girls go, maybe its a good route to take, more and more young girls are becoming whores nowadays anyway so this is the perfect career path.

[BornRuff]

Meh.. I mean, both sides are getting what they want. Men getting an enjoyable visual, and the girls getting an above-average wage. If no one is complaining too much, then it seems fine to me.

Not that I'm a fan of strip clubs, but I'm not against the idea.

I kind of find the whole idea of strip clubs more demeaning for the guys who go there than the girls stripping. Paying to see a naked girl or have them be near you for a while? Seems sad.

It does seem to be mostly about power, being able to make a girl do what you want, but really, paying for that also seems kind of sad.

[Beradon]

I kind of find the whole idea of strip clubs more demeaning for the guys who go there than the girls stripping. Paying to see a naked girl or have them be near you for a while? Seems sad.

It does seem to be mostly about power, being able to make a girl do what you want, but really, paying for that also seems kind of sad.

For a stinkhole of a province we do have it good here in QC when it comes to strip clubs. Touching and feeling is allowed except for the genitals(depends on the girls though). It's popular with the tourists too as they come in droves and the strippers here make mad money!!

[wilsonlam97]

Stupid government declining visas to foreign strippers are really gonna put the industry to sh1t. Those are the best kind, nicer, cleaner and a whole lot hotter then fat cellulite Canadian strippers. As far as High School girls go, maybe its a good route to take, more and more young girls are becoming whores nowadays anyway so this is the perfect career path.

Diggler will be able to afford more strippers since the less unique a commodity is the less the worth!

So instead of a billion babes per hour he could afford a bajillion babes per hour.

[setell]

I actually think that going to a strip club is for losers.
Pay money to see a piece of flesh.

Don't you guys know that these dancers see you just as wallets
- I knew a stripper many years ago - a friend of a friend

The strippers look down on the guys as losers
it is all a game to them - about getting as much money out of you as possible

If you know this - how can you go and so freely give money to see some flesh?

LOL but they get to see flesh and is willing to pay :lol:

[mbg]

i thought Canada was liberal, when did we become so conservative?

It started when we wanted to stop climate change.

[vero95]

I kind of find the whole idea of strip clubs more demeaning for the guys who go there than the girls stripping. Paying to see a naked girl or have them be near you for a while? Seems sad.

It does seem to be mostly about power, being able to make a girl do what you want, but really, paying for that also seems kind of sad.

if you hire someone to do any work, you also make that someone do what you want and are paying for it ;)
why is that an argument then?

[Ziggy007]

I bet most of them will flunk out.

The "stripping to put myself thru college" thing doesn't make sense in Canada where anyone can get a student loan.

I know a couple people who were strippers, and they only did it for the money for school.

Both are actually fairly successful accountants / financial advisors now. It is apparently pretty common with the younger girls at the clubs to actually be going somewhere in life.

[flashy_mcflash]

If they're 18 you don't get to have an opinion on what they do. End of thread.

[sylpherware]

I kind of find the whole idea of strip clubs more demeaning for the guys who go there than the girls stripping. Paying to see a naked girl or have them be near you for a while? Seems sad.

It does seem to be mostly about power, being able to make a girl do what you want, but really, paying for that also seems kind of sad.

It's a employer-employee relationship.

[gdog799]

good. i dont want old ladies at the strip club, i want fresh young 18 year olds

[nauru]

If they're 18 you don't get to have an opinion on what they do. End of thread.

+1

BTW the military actively recruits children who are under 18. That's right, from age 16 you can join up. So technically canada has child soldiers who are trained to kill and can be killed in battle at any time... but you have to be 18 to dance around on stage in your birthday suit.

[gh05t]

Looks to be scaremongering. Schools won't let recruiters anywhere near the property.

Most girls who work at these places go directly to the clubs on their own anyway.

Don't you have to be 19 to be in a bar anyway?

[whampoa]

OP, you miss a very important spot, Niagara Falls.

FWIW, friend mentioned business is down due to the Internet, strippers this day have to work harder for the money.

[Junigenmukyoku]

I actually think that going to a strip club is for losers.
Pay money to see a piece of flesh.

Don't you guys know that these dancers see you just as wallets
- I knew a stripper many years ago - a friend of a friend

The strippers look down on the guys as losers
it is all a game to them - about getting as much money out of you as possible

If you know this - how can you go and so freely give money to see some flesh?

It works both ways, people who go to strip clubs want to have a good time and strippers want to make money. What's so bad about it?


If they're 18 you don't get to have an opinion on what they do. End of thread.

+1

[menaknow]

Wait, I must be missing something.

When Ontario got rid of OAC, most high schoolers graduate at 17 in grade 12.

Are strip clubs requesting to recuit those under 18?


BTW, most strip clubs serve alcohol, therefore in that environment all participants should be 19 or legal drinking age.

[superpokey]

Wait, I must be missing something.

When Ontario got rid of OAC, most high schoolers graduate at 17 in grade 12.

Are strip clubs requesting to recuit those under 18?


BTW, most strip clubs serve alcohol, therefore in that environment all participants should be 19 or legal drinking age.

Dancers can be 18 (at least in Mississauga/Brampton). They just cannot be served alcohol.

[aplayaz2000]

i mean people get the impression a strip club is like a massage parlor
it's not... there are girls there who don't wanna put out at all




good. i dont want old ladies at the strip club, i want fresh young 18 year oldsthis pretty much

[Haz]

Vancouver schools are facing the same thing.

http://www.theprovince.com/news/vancouver/Adult+entertainment+lobby+group+threatens+recruit+ strippers/6988807/story.html


If the Vancouver School Board won’t let the adult entertainment industry recruit strippers from within its high schools, industry reps say they’ll stand out on the street and hand out flyers.

“As far as recruiting 18-year-olds, that’s a market that has been untouched,” said Tim Lambrinos, executive director of the Adult Entertainment Association of Canada (AEAC).

In early June, Canadian Immigration Minister Jason Kenney announced the government won’t be giving out temporary work visas for foreign strippers.

“Canadians have told us they want us to put a stop to foreign workers entering Canada to work in businesses where there are reasonable grounds to suspect a risk of sexual exploitation,” wrote Alexis Pavlich, spokesperson for the ministry, in an email. “It is disgraceful that Tim Lambrinos would now intentionally target underage Canadian high school youth.”

“We’re reacting to the government ... They’re saying we’re going to strip you of your workforce,” said Lambrinos. “The government is saying, indirectly, you need to get more aggressive and more proactive at recruiting locally.

“We’re not going to take it lying down.”

A Vancouver school board trustee said there is no way any recruiting efforts will be allowed to happen at public schools.

“We would never allow any kind of publication of that sort anywhere near our school,” said Mike Lombardi, a trustee and vice-chair of the Vancouver School Board.

Lambrinos confirmed a draft of the recruiting package read: “If you are visually appealing and comfortable with your naked body and are comfortable about taking all your clothes off, you can be working right now as an exotic dancer and earn your tuition fees for university or college.”

Reacting to the draft, Lombardi said, “The bottom line is the position of the Vancouver School Board would be very swift and very firm and it would totally ensure that none of that kind of garbage reached our schools.”

Lambrinos’ association represents a total of 38,000 strippers across the country, 25 to 30 per cent of whom are currently students. About 800 of those strippers are in Canada under temporary visas that are up for renewal each year.

The reason the AEAC has targeted students is because it’s an “untouched” market whose numbers are on the rise, doubling in the last three years.

“There are already students that are becoming doctors, accountants and lawyers that are earning their tuition,” Lambrinos said.

Local strip clubs, including Main Street’s No. 5 Orange and Vancouver’s most famous club, The Penthouse, both said they don’t have strippers on temporary visas and won’t be affected by Minister Kenney’s move.

“We just don’t simply hire foreign workers,” said Danny Filippone, owner of The Penthouse.

“I can speak on behalf of the Penthouse and probably safely speak on behalf of the other local strip bars, it just doesn’t happen in Vancouver.”

Filippone said Vancouver’s strip clubs are run differently that those out east, with less of an emphasis on private or “VIP” dances.

Recruitment would start at educational institutions and perhaps move into malls if necessary, Lambrinos added.

“We’ll go to the mall, we’ll set up a kiosk,” Lambrinos said. “With a pole.”

The Vancouver School Board’s Lombardi called the plan a lobbying effort intended to scare the government.

“It’s a very, very poor tactic and strategy because what it does is bring into question their reputation,” Lombardi said.

Lambrinos added this is not the last card the adult entertainment association could play. He expects the group could use the courts to extend the dancers’ permits for another year. Past that, he suggested the AEAC would advertise to find people who could marry the foreign nationals, adding it would be possible because the women are already in the country.

The immigration ministry’s office has been contacted but has yet to issue a response to the AEAC announcement.

[ovechkin1]

Diggler will be able to afford more strippers since the less unique a commodity is the less the worth!

So instead of a billion babes per hour he could afford a bajillion babes per hour.

erm, dirk diggler?

[DontAskDontTell]

Anyone over 25 should keep it on. their best before date has long passed.

[forthewinwin]

I kind of find the whole idea of strip clubs more demeaning for the guys who go there than the girls stripping. Paying to see a naked girl or have them be near you for a while? Seems sad.

It does seem to be mostly about power, being able to make a girl do what you want, but really, paying for that also seems kind of sad.

That's what I meant by "I'm not a fan of strip clubs"... I'd find it degrading to say "Oh, I couldn't find my own girl to be naked around me so I had to pay for one".
However, as I said I don't have a problem with the idea itself because it seems like the women are getting money they value greatly, and the men who like to see them are getting what they want for their pocket change.

So, let them be... :lol:

In fact, I wish there was a similar yet hetrosexual system for men... that is, I wish I could strip for tuition and rent... sure beats $11.50/hour waking up at 4am lifting boxes :rolleyes:

... Of course there are gay bars, but I would never be comfortable walking around in my nuts in front of old men. Oh why do women get so many perks sometimes...

[wilsonlam97]

That's what I meant by "I'm not a fan of strip clubs"... I'd find it degrading to say "Oh, I couldn't find my own girl to be naked around me so I had to pay for one".
However, as I said I don't have a problem with the idea itself because it seems like the women are getting money they value greatly, and the men who like to see them are getting what they want for their pocket change.

So, let them be... :lol:

In fact, I wish there was a similar yet hetrosexual system for men... that is, I wish I could strip for tuition and rent... sure beats $11.50/hour waking up at 4am lifting boxes :rolleyes:

... Of course there are gay bars, but I would never be comfortable walking around in my nuts in front of old men. Oh why do women get so many perks sometimes...


We never have to experience giving birth and sexism usually doesn't apply to you. Yeah woman do have more perks in Canada. Since there are more men then women they can be pickier.

[aplayaz2000]

Oh why do women get so many perks sometimes...lol

trust me in the long run, it's not worth it

[wilsonlam97]

lol

trust me in the long run, it's not worth it

Yeap.

[Syne]

I've been to all sorts of strip clubs, and they are not what they are cracked up to be. I once took a girl back to a VIP room because I thought she was cute and that she might be interesting. She was the most vapid, uninteresting person I've ever met in my life. When I was done my little exercise, I gave her $40, but we did nothing but chat because I told her that I didn't want a dance, I just wanted to get to know her a little. She was maybe 19.

The women are shamelessly greedy and whorish, the drinks are super expensive, and the regular clientelle are nothing short of depressing.

It was fun when I was 18 with a fake ID, now it's just something to laugh at once a year. I'm sorry, but it's a little sad when the least attractive guys are getting the most attention. I get why, but I think it's ridiculous.

[DontAskDontTell]

I've been to all sorts of strip clubs, and they are not what they are cracked up to be. I once took a girl back to a VIP room because I thought she was cute and that she might be interesting. She was the most vapid, uninteresting person I've ever met in my life. When I was done my little exercise, I gave her $40, but we did nothing but chat because I told her that I didn't want a dance, I just wanted to get to know her a little. She was maybe 19.

The women are shamelessly greedy and whorish, the drinks are super expensive, and the regular clientelle are nothing short of depressing.

It was fun when I was 18 with a fake ID, now it's just something to laugh at once a year. I'm sorry, but it's a little sad when the least attractive guys are getting the most attention. I get why, but I think it's ridiculous.

Bro you are more messed up than people give you credit for. You went to s strip bar hoping to find intellectual stimulation? I would underatand if youbwere a eunuch but come on! Who are you kidding here; ylu thought she was cute but you only wanted to invite her to the back for a 'conversation'? besides you are just another customer, did you expect her to reviel her persknal life to you?

I've been to a handful of stripbars and the only thougjt i have when i am therebis how nice they look on my bed.. That's it!

[Syne]

You should envision them laying on your keyboard to increase your level of coherence. ;)

[redrockinhot]

It's but normal to see or hear guys frequenting strip bars and do stuff. How about the thought of women doing the same thing? Like going to strip bars and watch men dance around and doing the thing. And the next day you will hear several women in a coffee shop talking about it and it would sound like just the usual.

[flashy_mcflash]

It's but normal to see or hear guys frequenting strip bars and do stuff. How about the thought of women doing the same thing? Like going to strip bars and watch men dance around and doing the thing. And the next day you will hear several women in a coffee shop talking about it and it would sound like just the usual.

http://i.imgur.com/pDbD7.jpg

[akito925]

The article and video says they're seeking Canadian men to marry so that they can stay in the country. Where can I sign up for that priority list? :lol:

I think he's looking at the $$$$ as she would make more money then him in a year.. lol

[Shaner]

Like always, RFD'ers have tunnel vision and think everything is black and white. Not everybody that goes to a strip bar is desperate and has to pay for women. I go with a bunch of buddies maybe 1-2 times per year. Most of us have GF's or wives, and none of us need to pay to have women come close to us. Besides, we definitely don't throw money at the strippers so that they come sit near us all night. We buy drinks, but I can't remember a time when any of my buddies have bought a stripper a drink. Sometimes the girls ask, and we say no. For us, we go there before the real bar. Not really sure why we go there, especially because the women aren't always hot at the Kingston rippers, but it's just something to do once in a while.

At a regular bar, it's around $5 for a beer. It's not much more than that at the rippers, so it's almost like cheap entertainment while we drink.

[VonMatterhorn]

Sad what society is coming to. Nothing far from exploitation.

[the_fm]

Like always, RFD'ers have tunnel vision and think everything is black and white. Not everybody that goes to a strip bar is desperate and has to pay for women. I go with a bunch of buddies maybe 1-2 times per year. Most of us have GF's or wives, and none of us need to pay to have women come close to us. Besides, we definitely don't throw money at the strippers so that they come sit near us all night. We buy drinks, but I can't remember a time when any of my buddies have bought a stripper a drink. Sometimes the girls ask, and we say no. For us, we go there before the real bar. Not really sure why we go there, especially because the women aren't always hot at the Kingston rippers, but it's just something to do once in a while.

At a regular bar, it's around $5 for a beer. It's not much more than that at the rippers, so it's almost like cheap entertainment while we drink.

can't say any better than this. what people do with their money is their damn business, why freaking judge them as you are better than them? gtfo
it's cheap entertainment. you get a beer, you get to see boobs. and sometimes, there's some live shows with pornstars

[Heero01]

In fact, I wish there was a similar yet hetrosexual system for men... that is, I wish I could strip for tuition and rent... sure beats $11.50/hour waking up at 4am lifting boxes :rolleyes:

... Of course there are gay bars, but I would never be comfortable walking around in my nuts in front of old men. Oh why do women get so many perks sometimes...

Exactly... chicks are darn lucky. I wouldn't mind stripping for MILFs... but for other dudes? NO WAY. I wonder why it is in our society that men strip for other men and women strip for othe men too? Why don't women strip for other women and men strip for women?

Always been an interesting thing to consider. Would not mind going to a strip club where its women stripping for other women.

[transitguy1]

Source: http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2012/07/22/20014641.html

This sounds very wrong to me.
College and university kids are fair game as they are adults
but targeting high school kids is absurd.

Interesting strip industry trivia

There are 38,000 strippers working in clubs across Canada. Most of them dance in Toronto, Windsor, Ont., London, Ont., Montreal, Ottawa, Winnipeg and Calgary.



Students already stripping to pay tuition: Club owner

One popular Toronto strip club owner says his stable of exotic dancers include more than a dozen college or university students.

The well-known Toronto businessman, who did not want to be publicly identified, said two of his dancers are studying to become doctors; four are attending law school and six are taking classes to become chartered accountants.

Let Immigration do a raid and catch all these foreign students working without a work permit.
This can lead to a lot of students getting expelled from Canada

Now, who will tip the CBSA Border Watch hotline about this?

[wilsonlam97]

Exactly... chicks are darn lucky. I wouldn't mind stripping for MILFs... but for other dudes? NO WAY. I wonder why it is in our society that men strip for other men and women strip for othe men too? Why don't women strip for other women and men strip for women?

Always been an interesting thing to consider. Would not mind going to a strip club where its women stripping for other women.

Men are the horniest.

[whampoa]

I don't always go to a gentlemen's club, but when I do lady pay me to watch them dance naked.

Stay thirsty my friends.

[uber_shnitz]

Exactly... chicks are darn lucky. I wouldn't mind stripping for MILFs... but for other dudes? NO WAY. I wonder why it is in our society that men strip for other men and women strip for othe men too? Why don't women strip for other women and men strip for women?

Always been an interesting thing to consider. Would not mind going to a strip club where its women stripping for other women.
I don't know where you guys live, but not all male strip clubs are gay strip clubs....

Off the top of my head, I can name club 281 where guys strip and girls often come from other towns just to see them. My female friends love going there every now and then :lol:

[No Frills]

I love the 'reverse patio'!