View Full Version : I'm getting more channels without digital box with Rogers??
steeped
Jul 29th, 2012, 08:36 PM
I signed a new contract with Rogers. My bundled deal includes basic cable with a free HD digital box. With my television plugged into the digital box, I only get channels 2-30 with basic cable. My television upstairs doesn't use a digital box, but after plugging it into the wall, it gets channels 2-50! I can get TSN, HGTV and so on upstairs, but not with my digital terminal. Is this normal?
enforcerviper
Jul 29th, 2012, 08:55 PM
Yes. They can control the channels on the digital box but not analog cable without installing a filter outside your house. Clearly the did not put the analog filter yet.
chinesedevil
Jul 29th, 2012, 08:58 PM
Yes. They can control the channels on the digital box but not analog cable without installing a filter outside your house. Clearly the did not put the analog filter yet.
Haha +1. They forgot the analog filter outside your house but have a digital filter in the box. Don't say anything and just enjoy your free channels.
It's not necessarily normal but it does happen, rogers people are lazy.
george__
Jul 29th, 2012, 09:01 PM
Lucky bastard. But is there a way they can detect this?? What if the OP removes the digital filter...?
steeped
Jul 29th, 2012, 09:08 PM
Thats nice of Rogers. Is it worth it for me to keep the digital box then? Is it possible to get these unfiltered stations in HD without the box?
george__
Jul 29th, 2012, 09:10 PM
DIGITAL QUALITY OWNS anything you get without the box.
just keep quiet and be happy
steeped
Jul 29th, 2012, 09:13 PM
DIGITAL QUALITY OWNS anything you get without the box.
just keep quiet and be happy
Yeah, I got that much. But is it possible to get these stations in HD without the rogers box? Can I purchase some other hd digital box to get these stations?
george__
Jul 29th, 2012, 09:18 PM
Yeah, I got that much. But is it possible to get these stations in HD without the rogers box? Can I purchase some other hd digital box to get these stations?
Are you worried about the monthly fee rate?
if so, you might be able to find a used one on Kijiji
steeped
Jul 29th, 2012, 09:21 PM
Are you worried about the monthly fee rate?
if so, you might be able to find a used one on Kijiji
Sorry, I should be more clear. With my Rogers box, I am receiving half the stations as I would without it. If I purchase a third party HD digital box, will I be able to receive any of these "free" channels (specifically TSN) in HD?
george__
Jul 29th, 2012, 09:25 PM
Sorry, I should be more clear. With my Rogers box, I am receiving half the stations as I would without it. If I purchase a third party HD digital box, will I be able to receive any of these "free" channels (specifically TSN) in HD?
Nope.
chinesedevil said analog is unfiltered but your digital is. So digital will be filtered
steeped
Jul 29th, 2012, 10:56 PM
I hooked my hd tv straight to the wall and realized that I get a few HD channels in strange channel numbers (###.###). Wicked. Good bye HD box!
Forhad
Jul 30th, 2012, 07:38 AM
That's great. Just enjoy your free channels.
BobSagget
Jul 30th, 2012, 08:09 AM
Lucky bastard. But is there a way they can detect this?? What if the OP removes the digital filter...?
They can detect when a digital filter is removed. They will send someone out.
Phat_cow
Jul 30th, 2012, 09:52 AM
It will be fixed shortly.
chinesedevil
Jul 30th, 2012, 11:33 AM
It will be fixed shortly.
Probably not unless they already knew about it or a tech comes and does something and sees that theres no filter. I know someone who's in the same situation, they got free channels for over a year.
BlackRanger3d
Jul 30th, 2012, 01:27 PM
It will be fixed shortly.
Lies. Mine has not been fixed in 7 years.
When I first moved in my younger bro hooked up my TV to the cable outlet in the wall. He did this while I was out, otherwise I would have told him don't bother there is no service. But BAM there was service (to my surprise). So we had full service from top to bottom of analog tv. WOOT.
Anyway I imagine I will have it until they discontinue piping analog tv signals on the same line as the internet cable.
AstonM
Jul 30th, 2012, 02:29 PM
We also have TV's hooked to HD box and not hooked up. Get some specialty channels not on HD box which is nice, especially Mad Men on AMC.
pessamystic
Jul 30th, 2012, 08:57 PM
i have the same thing. the analog channels will all disappear soon. they implied that end-of-may was an internal deadline but that seems to have slipped. sooner or later tho.
Keigotw
Jul 31st, 2012, 01:11 AM
I signed a new contract with Rogers. My bundled deal includes basic cable with a free HD digital box. With my television plugged into the digital box, I only get channels 2-30 with basic cable. My television upstairs doesn't use a digital box, but after plugging it into the wall, it gets channels 2-50! I can get TSN, HGTV and so on upstairs, but not with my digital terminal. Is this normal?
that is why I don't even bother connecting the digital box, since it gets hot and uses like lots of power even when off.
wilsonlam97
Jul 31st, 2012, 03:32 AM
Haha +1. They forgot the analog filter outside your house but have a digital filter in the box. Don't say anything and just enjoy your free channels.
It's not necessarily normal but it does happen, rogers people are lazy.
What digital filter? Every individual cable box can have it's own set of channels. The digital box is hooked up to a database that tells it what channels is allowed to view and what channels it isn't. There's no physical filter lol
wilsonlam97
Jul 31st, 2012, 03:34 AM
that is why I don't even bother connecting the digital box, since it gets hot and uses like lots of power even when off.
Yeah wth is up with that? I may never have cable again if they decide to cut off the analog. I might as well just throw the money into the ocean.
Or get a TVpad and torrent/hulu/Netflix USA/FTA all my content
Cheap Cat
Jul 31st, 2012, 03:07 PM
Yeah, I got that much. But is it possible to get these stations in HD without the rogers box? Can I purchase some other hd digital box to get these stations?
Get an antenna and you can get a number of HD stations without a box. OTA QUALITY OWNS anything you get from Rogers and the price can't be beat.
BobSagget
Jul 31st, 2012, 03:31 PM
Get an antenna and you can get a number of HD stations without a box. OTA QUALITY OWNS anything you get from Rogers and the price can't be beat.
Ya you might wanna put a big, fat asterisk after that. How many stations, if any at all, depends on where you live. Downtown Toronto? Sure you will probably pick up tons.
I live in Barrie and with an antenna I get CTV2 in HD. That's it. Not even any analog channels just this crappy
CTV2 channel. They play the worst crap ever. Won't even put on the Olympics. But hey at least it's in HD?
BobSagget
Jul 31st, 2012, 03:57 PM
Lies. Mine has not been fixed in 7 years.
When I first moved in my younger bro hooked up my TV to the cable outlet in the wall. He did this while I was out, otherwise I would have told him don't bother there is no service. But BAM there was service (to my surprise). So we had full service from top to bottom of analog tv. WOOT.
Anyway I imagine I will have it until they discontinue piping analog tv signals on the same line as the internet cable.
You probably never had a digital filter on your line, just a regular one that would terminate the connection from street to residence (it might have never been put on or the last owners might have purposely removed it). I am guessing you don't subscribe to any Rogers services (internet/tv)? Because if you were subscribed to internet but not TV and there was a digital filter in place, they WOULD know and they would send someone out pretty quickly if it was removed.
PwrSurge
Jul 31st, 2012, 07:06 PM
You probably never had a digital filter on your line, just a regular one that would terminate the connection from street to residence (it might have never been put on or the last owners might have purposely removed it). I am guessing you don't subscribe to any Rogers services (internet/tv)? Because if you were subscribed to internet but not TV and there was a digital filter in place, they WOULD know and they would send someone out pretty quickly if it was removed.
There is no such thing as a digital filter as a filter only required to block unsubscribed analog cable channels. With digital cable, each box has a serial number so the cable company can remotely control which channels are authorised from their end, similar to digital satellite.
Regards,
PwrSurge
BobSagget
Jul 31st, 2012, 07:34 PM
Maybe it's not called a digital filter, but I am pretty sure there's a different type of filter that they use then the one that simply terminates the connection comepletely from street to residence. I used to receive 2-64 channels because we had no filter on our line. Then I subscribed to Distributel (a TPIA that uses Rogers lines) and a Rogers tech came out and put on a special filter that blocked all the analog channels, whilst still being able to get an internet connection. Running a channel scan on the television would show 0 analog and like 300+ digital (scrambled channels). Before the filter it used to show about 64 analog channels and 0 digital.
RogersNicolas
Aug 3rd, 2012, 10:34 AM
I signed a new contract with Rogers. My bundled deal includes basic cable with a free HD digital box. With my television plugged into the digital box, I only get channels 2-30 with basic cable. My television upstairs doesn't use a digital box, but after plugging it into the wall, it gets channels 2-50! I can get TSN, HGTV and so on upstairs, but not with my digital terminal. Is this normal?
Hi,
I'm Nicolas from Rogers Social Media team.
I'm sending you a PM to look into it.
Nicolas
@RogersNicolas
wilsonlam97
Aug 3rd, 2012, 02:21 PM
Hi,
I'm Nicolas from Rogers Social Media team.
I'm sending you a PM to look into it.
Nicolas
@RogersNicolas
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balance
Aug 3rd, 2012, 06:38 PM
If rogers do an audit in your area they might pickup their mistake an reblock those channel
wilsonlam97
Aug 4th, 2012, 12:58 AM
Is there Fairchild on the rogers scam digital decryptor?
EPcjay
Aug 4th, 2012, 03:11 AM
LOL,
It's an analog filter you guys are talking about not a digital filter. They basically filter out certain frequencies (which correlate to channels on your analog TV)
Funny thing when I ran a digital scan on my TV, i got the sex channel in HD.
infamouskid
Aug 4th, 2012, 04:35 AM
i thought tv's can only decode atsc in open via like a ota antenna?
doesnt rogers digital broadcast in encrypted qam?
Cheap Cat
Aug 6th, 2012, 12:04 PM
My parents are really fed up with the switch to digital so they have stopped using the digital box. Like the OP, they get more channels without it and they just hate the box because the volume is too low and they can't hear. My mother is already in denial about her declining hearing and already keeps the volume very high on the tv. At one point, I had it set so that they could use the box on the tv and watch without it through their DVR. This way they could still all the channels they didn't get with the box and still record. Last time, I went over, they had just disconnected the box altogether.
My dad has a small tv in a spare room hooked up to an antenna and on several occasions my mother has gone in there to watch her programs out of frustration with cable. You don't realize what a big deal that is. I'm hoping to get them to switch over all the way to OTA but there are still a few channels they watch that are only on cable. I'm sure once the analogue channels get cut off, they will switch.
azncapcom
Aug 6th, 2012, 06:32 PM
My parents are really fed up with the switch to digital so they have stopped using the digital box. Like the OP, they get more channels without it and they just hate the box because the volume is too low and they can't hear. My mother is already in denial about her declining hearing and already keeps the volume very high on the tv. At one point, I had it set so that they could use the box on the tv and watch without it through their DVR. This way they could still all the channels they didn't get with the box and still record. Last time, I went over, they had just disconnected the box altogether.
My dad has a small tv in a spare room hooked up to an antenna and on several occasions my mother has gone in there to watch her programs out of frustration with cable. You don't realize what a big deal that is. I'm hoping to get them to switch over all the way to OTA but there are still a few channels they watch that are only on cable. I'm sure once the analogue channels get cut off, they will switch.
I have the same volume problem with the digital box. What is up with that? With the box, the volume is much lower, even with the digital box volume at max. If i have TV volume at 30 without the box, its very loud, with the box i need to turn it to about 60 to get the same results as 30. This is all with the digital volume set on max already.
I actually had a nice tech from rogers. He came to setup the "basic" cable which only allows 1 outlet. Rogers will charge more per outlet. The guy goes down stairs, and sees all my splitters and instead of telling me that i can't do that. He instead removes all the splitters and puts in a big splitter/amplifier. Told me not to tell rogers LOL.