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iownyou
Jul 30th, 2012, 04:02 PM
link (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/gateway-gateway-2nd-gen-intel-core-i7-2600-computer-fx6860-ef10p-fx6860-ef10p/10192479.aspx?path=376d0a4983b3cf208f6bbba3f8fc25c cen02)

1299$ in FS

Processor Type
Intel Core i7-2600
Processor Speed
3.4GHz
Processor Cores
4
RAM
16 GB
Hard Drive Capacity
2 TB
Hard Drive Speed (Revolutions Per Minut
7200 RPM
Optical Drive
Blu-ray Combo Drive
Graphics
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti


I remember it was 1499$ last month....

Jimboski
Jul 30th, 2012, 04:03 PM
I don't know that much about computers but I do know that Futureshop/Best Buy Is always a jip, So I'm going to go on a limb and say NOT!
To be honest with a price of that It should at least come with a SSD potentially..

iownyou
Jul 30th, 2012, 04:07 PM
i dont have any experience building pc on my own.... all my prev computers are bought ready to use....

i need a new pc for occasional games, movies

xXxTehxXx
Jul 30th, 2012, 04:11 PM
It's not terrible, but would definitely shave it down to $1000 if you built your own

Jimboski
Jul 30th, 2012, 04:12 PM
i dont have any experience building pc on my own.... all my prev computers are bought ready to use....

i need a new pc for occasional games, movies

There are plenty of people here on RFD that wouldn't mind helping you out, You just need to provide the information which includes:

Total budget (including taxes or not)
What the use of the computer will be.
Etc.

You can buy the parts all at NCIX by price matching other competitors and you can pay NCIX a "Computer Assembly fee" to build the computer with all the parts you ordered with!

gnuman
Jul 30th, 2012, 04:17 PM
That seems way too much for those specs. It isn't even a Blu Ray Writer just a combo drive. What games are you playing? More modern games?

xalex0
Jul 30th, 2012, 04:49 PM
Too many unknowns: chipset, motherboard, PSU, RAM speed, HDD model. In my experience, if it's not stated explicitly then you have to assume the worst.

Jimboski
Jul 30th, 2012, 04:51 PM
Too many unknowns: chipset, motherboard, PSU, RAM speed, HDD model. In my experience you have to assume the worst.

Usually the hidden parts are the garbage pieces.. Look at It as way of "fine prints" In the computer purchasing section, Lol.

BioRage
Jul 30th, 2012, 04:54 PM
Build it yourself from NCIX.

It's literally a plug in play and Youtube can be of aid.

Get an SSD with the money you save.

george__
Jul 30th, 2012, 05:31 PM
Build yourself, BULD your self...
okay now to the point.
It's a gateway, a i7 2nd gen (so old / not needed for gaming), psu is impressive (750watt), and graphic card is impressive BUT it might be cheaper to build yourself.

Check this out

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/droT
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/droT/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/droT/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB Video Card ($114.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $959.39
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-07-30 17:38 EDT-0400)

That's a 3RD GEN I7 RIG! With SSD! Ops prices are in US - so give or take $200 but still you can see my point. Cheaper!

Compliments of DaveY for the program!

DavidY
Jul 30th, 2012, 05:39 PM
Build yourself, BULD your self...
okay now to the point.
It's a gateway, a i7 2nd gen (so old / not needed for gaming), psu is impressive (750watt), and graphic card is impressive BUT it might be cheaper to build yourself.

Impressive PSU? No brand/model provided....750 W is max. If it's cheap brand (most likely), it's likely to be over rated in wattage. I would rather have a 550 watt brand name like Antec TP series, XFX Core Edition Pro Series, Corsair or Seasonic than a 750 watt no name.

Dave

george__
Jul 30th, 2012, 05:47 PM
Impressive PSU? No brand/model provided....750 W is max. If it's cheap brand (most likely), it's likely to be over rated in wattage. I would rather have a 550 watt brand name like Antec TP series, XFX Core Edition Pro Series, Corsair or Seasonic than a 750 watt no name.

Dave
I used your program you used to spec a PC for him... If you're mad about it I won't do it again

iownyou
Jul 30th, 2012, 06:54 PM
Thx everyone. I will take a look on ncix tonight

george__
Jul 30th, 2012, 07:05 PM
Thx everyone. I will take a look on ncix tonight
Also check out memory express, hookbag etc. If you see a cheaper price try and PM! Hookbag offers free shipping too so you can get free shipping through ME or NCIX!

DavidY
Jul 30th, 2012, 07:13 PM
I used your program you used to spec a PC for him... If you're mad about it I won't do it again

No problem. Not sure why you used the GTX 550 Ti however. I would get a slightly cheaper mobo and upgrade the graphics card.

Dave

george__
Jul 30th, 2012, 08:25 PM
No problem. Not sure why you used the GTX 550 Ti however. I would get a slightly cheaper mobo and upgrade the graphics card.

Dave


I chose wrong one, I was supposed to choose 560ti :P. Mobo dunno, I like to spend at least 200$ + for mobo usually for serious build and always Asus. (odd habit I've had for years). Budget builds I always went with ECS but I'm slowly trying to change (my next budget build will be a Asrock)!!

game_fanatic
Jul 30th, 2012, 10:33 PM
Build yourself, BULD your self...
okay now to the point.
It's a gateway, a i7 2nd gen (so old / not needed for gaming), psu is impressive (750watt), and graphic card is impressive BUT it might be cheaper to build yourself.

Check this out

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/droT
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/droT/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/droT/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB Video Card ($114.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $959.39
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-07-30 17:38 EDT-0400)

That's a 3RD GEN I7 RIG! With SSD! Ops prices are in US - so give or take $200 but still you can see my point. Cheaper!

Compliments of DaveY for the program!
No OS, so add another $100 (not all of us are pirates! ;))


Impressive PSU? No brand/model provided....750 W is max. If it's cheap brand (most likely), it's likely to be over rated in wattage. I would rather have a 550 watt brand name like Antec TP series, XFX Core Edition Pro Series, Corsair or Seasonic than a 750 watt no name.

Dave
Indeed, no brand/model was provided. Could be a cheap oem brand, could also be an OCZ, Antec, etc.

DavidY
Jul 30th, 2012, 11:42 PM
One Gateway owner of the specified model posted this info for the 750 watt PS:

12V rail - 18A

Either it's a lame PS or the owner missed the other rails....I wouldn't put in a power hungry graphics card without more research. Most good quality 700+ watt PS have 50+ amps on the 12V rail (single).

Another thing that doesn't bode well is that some 250-300 watt PS on Gateway computers are Bestec AKA Worstec...Bestec is/was a popular PS brand in HP desktop computers too....my HP refurb has one. Other Gateways had Seasonics (a very good quality brand) and other brands. Gateway models and their PS here: http://www.power-on.com/oemlookup.php

Dave

Forhad
Jul 31st, 2012, 05:45 AM
The config. of the PC says it's the hottest PC of 2012.

game_fanatic
Jul 31st, 2012, 08:27 AM
For the sake of argument (and because I'm bored), let's price out this PC using parts very similar to what has been included;

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB DDR3-1600 Memory ($98.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive 1: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.70 @ HookBag)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX560 Ti 448 Core Video Card ($229.99 @ NCIX) (Beefier than the included GPU but it costs the same as non-448 Ti's
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V Power Supply ($104.99 @ Memory Express)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST Blu-ray Reader/DVD Writer ($56.50 @ Hookbag)
OS: Windows 7 Premium ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Assembly ($50 @ NCIX)
Total: $1205.13 + tax (-$30 MIR for GPU, -$20 MIR for motherboard)

Obviously the part selection can be subjective, but in the end we have a build that's very similar specifications-wise, but includes high-end parts and the longer warranties to accompany each part. Given the overall savings + $50 back in rebates, you'd have no problem sticking a 120GB SSD in this system as well.

valinrace
Jul 31st, 2012, 09:24 AM
Its alright but it cost too much, much better to buy that parts in different retail stores and the where store that part is on sale. And be the one to build it, you would save so much money, or if you really have money and that is your budget, try buying a different higher part for your computer.