Rude Neighbours

[djemzine]

Well this is just a semi rant, but an observation I've been noticing for the past few days. Don't know if this thread will be locked but here goes.

So my family and I live in a new community in Richmond Hill/Aurora for the past 1 year and as it is, at the back, there is no fence dividing the houses from side to side and the older houses in the back. So pretty much its an open space. However as residences, we have to follow the rules and not trespass onto another's property without the owners consent.

That being said, there is this one particular family (Asian, yes sorry to bring the fact up) that lives 6 houses down (1st house on the street). My mom and I have been noticing that in the evening times, they have been coming down all the way to one of our neighbour's house who lives one house behind us. He basically grows vegetables and so do we and what they do is, they start taking crops/vegetables from his garden and take it back to their house. They bring some sort of scissors to cut the vegetables from the plants.

My mom and I thought they're just observing, but actually they're "hoarding" off someone else. Its still not correct to trespass onto someone else's property as well.

They also tried coming to our house few times but have not seen anything been taken as of yet.

However, yesterday I was outside and when they came to that same neighbour's house, they immediately saw me and they looked surprised and hid the scissors behind their backs and went back to their house.

What do you guys think? Don't you think its rude for anyone to do such things?

Eventually we did inform our neighbour and now he keeps a constant watch on his garden and so do we.

[Ottomaddox]

It's stealing. Put up a couple of real or fake security cameras.

[Andro]

if you have a dog you can plant some vegetables on their garden with your dog's help.

[Hitman21]

This is more than just rude its stealing, there trespassing on private property and then stealing.

[Kunman]

make sure you know whats going on 1st

they could the stealing vegetables

or

friends with your neighbors

[djemzine]

make sure you know whats going on 1st

they could the stealing vegetables

or

friends with your neighbors

That is a valid point, but from what I have observed/seen, the only neighbours he associates with are his other two neighbours on each sides, plus one house down and us. That whole row of bungalows behind us are all retired couples.

[vr6man25]

If they were "friends with your neighbors"
why would they walk away , when they saw OP watching

[alkaseltzer01]

Take pictures. Post signs in your neighbourhood caught in the act.

[redgrandam]

I would let that neighbor know for sure. Let them handle it beyond there.

[Kunman]

If they were "friends with your neighbors"
why would they walk away , when they saw OP watching

mabye because its akward?

regardless

the best solution right now is for op to talk to his neighbor and inform them of whats happening.

IF they dont know about this, they will do all the work for OP.
If they do, than there is no problem.

[arclite]

I would just record them in the act then upload on youtube. I am all for public shaming.

[Hitman21]

I would just record them in the act then upload on youtube. I am all for public shaming.


Excellent idea, these people have no shame

[flashy_mcflash]

I hope every day that these people come and try to take vegetables from my garden. I will happily turn the hose on them, full blast. I had a friend who used to have his garden torn up by older Asian women - I believe these ladies then take the vegetables to Spadina and sell them on the street.

Next time you see them go into your neighbor's place, go over there and prevent them from leaving until they drop everything they've taken. You can tell them you're housesitting for your neighbor and aren't going to tolerate theft.

[Tabooger]

lol wth, who does this crap

[Hitman21]

I hope every day that these people come and try to take vegetables from my garden. I will happily turn the hose on them, full blast. I had a friend who used to have his garden torn up by older Asian women - I believe these ladies then take the vegetables to Spadina and sell them on the street.


One of the few times I actually agree with you. The hose is an excellent idea but if this happened to me a bucket of toilet waste or something disgusting would work much better

[flashy_mcflash]

One of the few times I actually agree with you. The hose is an excellent idea but if this happened to me a bucket of toilet waste or something disgusting would work much better

The good thing about the hose is that you can say you're just watering the garden. Plus the water pressure would teach them a lesson.

I don't suffer trespassers lightly, and we've put too much work into our garden to have someone just take that for nothing.

[gizmo8]

Why not be friendly to them and talk to them?...so many posters here totally lack the skills to talk to your neighbors about your concerns?.Sometimes you wonder what the hell happen to communications skills of people these days and lack of social skills

[djemzine]

Ya I've yet to discuss with my neighbour about this. He's really a nice guy too and an Italian. Sometimes he gives us his vegetables to us and recently some tomato plants.

[flashy_mcflash]

Why not be friendly to them and talk to them?...so many posters here totally lack the skills to talk to your neighbors about your concerns?.Sometimes you wonder what the hell happen to communications skills of people these days and lack of social skills

I am all for being friendly with my neighbors and I am, but if you come onto my property and start taking things, we have nothing to talk about. It's hose time.


Ya I've yet to discuss with my neighbour about this. He's really a nice guy too and an Italian. Sometimes he gives us his vegetables to us and recently some tomato plants.

Wait, so it's possible that these people have permission to take that stuff? Dude, yeah, talk to the neighbor first. I assumed that by starting this thread you knew they were stealing. If not, they might have some kind of arrangement.

[ji2o0k]

time to erect that fence!

[Kunman]

I hope every day that these people come and try to take vegetables from my garden. I will happily turn the hose on them, full blast. I had a friend who used to have his garden torn up by older Asian women - I believe these ladies then take the vegetables to Spadina and sell them on the street.

Next time you see them go into your neighbor's place, go over there and prevent them from leaving until they drop everything they've taken. You can tell them you're housesitting for your neighbor and aren't going to tolerate theft.

if that was my mom, and shes doing this with the consent of the neighbor I would sue you for doing that.

[flashy_mcflash]

if that was my mom, and shes doing this with the consent of the neighbor I would sue you for doing that.

I think it's pretty clear that I would only do that if she was stealing. If your mom was stealing from my garden though, she's getting my hose. Then she's welcome to go to the police and cry about getting hosed up while she was trespassing and stealing.

[Kunman]

I think it's pretty clear that I would only do that if she was stealing. If your mom was stealing from my garden though, she's getting my hose.

wololol she's getting my hose...

[flashy_mcflash]

It's long, strong, and it's about to get the friction on (if you steal my tomatoes)

[djemzine]

I am all for being friendly with my neighbors and I am, but if you come onto my property and start taking things, we have nothing to talk about. It's hose time.



Wait, so it's possible that these people have permission to take that stuff? Dude, yeah, talk to the neighbor first. I assumed that by starting this thread you knew they were stealing. If not, they might have some kind of arrangement.

Well if there was already an arrangement, he normally gives out stuff but he never gives out to anybody else in this neighbourhood besides us, and his two neighbours (each beside his house).

Here's a pic of his house:

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/219754_10100194195613135_1218741402_o.jpg

Its the one to the right of ours.

I've never seen that family (the Asian one) associating with anyone else in the area. They keep to themselves. Its a mother and daughter combination.

[Hitman21]

if that was my mom, and shes doing this with the consent of the neighbor I would sue you for doing that.

The screwed up thing is that whoever uses the hose would likely get charged for assault like David Chen

[opento]

Appalling.

[Purgatory]

If they are stealing your vegetables you need to tell them to stop or you will contact the police! They are stealing food from your family, don't sit back and take it! I would be angry if I caught people doing that. Judging by the size of the houses, it is obvious they are not poor. I would only feel different in a situation like this is if it were a poor family stealing some vegetables to feed themselves.

[lazymonkeygod]

video tape them and call the police.

[Simaahoy]

They are theives and probably stinky also➡...

[Hitman21]

They are theives and probably stinky also➡...

How would you know if they smell?

[junot111]

I am not offended at all that you mention it is an Asian family that does this. And I also wouldn't be surprised if they are Chinese. All Chinese people know that there are "bad" Chinese in this world. It's a shame but that's the way it is.

[ji2o0k]

maybe they think it is a communal vegetable garden?

[Simaahoy]

Well tell your neighbor and catch them in the act.. Taipei them too

[djemzine]

If they are stealing your vegetables you need to tell them to stop or you will contact the police! They are stealing food from your family, don't sit back and take it! I would be angry if I caught people doing that. Judging by the size of the houses, it is obvious they are not poor. I would only feel different in a situation like this is if it were a poor family stealing some vegetables to feed themselves.

You are correct. The houses are pretty fairly sized here. I know that their house is roughly around 3,000 square feet by passing it few times and they have a 3 series (older model) and an X5 (somewhat new model?)

So go figure eh?


How would you know if they smell?

Lol


I am not offended at all that you mention it is an Asian family that does this. And I also wouldn't be surprised if they are Chinese. All Chinese people know that there are "bad" Chinese in this world. It's a shame but that's the way it is.

That's true and that's life. To be honest, I've seen such things happen in India as well, then again, half of the population or a big chunk are in poverty, and I could understand. However, a well off family shouldn't be doing such things.


maybe they think it is a communal vegetable garden?

Well as far as I know, I don't think such things exist in a community/neighbourhood when clearly the owner of the garden doesn't give permission heh.

However, my neighbour's neighbour and his neighbour also have gardens in their backyard but on a smaller scale. So basically all three homes have these gardens. I did see them yesterday starting at the first house, observing the plants and trying to pry inside.

[Simaahoy]

How would you know if they smell?

Because .... Um.... Yeah

[Jimboski]

Dj you got me..

[djemzine]

Dj you got me..

I knew it was you! I could always hear a Samsung phone going off in the distance LOL. Jks aside, its pretty pathetic to be honest of what such people do.

[Jimboski]

Loooooooooool!

[No Frills]

You mentioned the garden owner was Italian. I used to live in an older neighbourhood (in Richmond Hill) which had a lot of first generation Italians that grown more in their garden that they can eat. Obviously, they are culturally very generous with their food and they would be offended if you did not take their food on offer. With that, there are sometimes open with their garden and give permission with the close neighbours.

[ji2o0k]

Well as far as I know, I don't think such things exist in a community/neighbourhood when clearly the owner of the garden doesn't give permission heh.
hahah i don't know of any such thing either but maybe where they come from?

in any case, definitely inform your neighbor and he can take it from there....best to talk to these people and if they continue to steal, then erect the fence!

[sylpherware]

If you know where those people live, why not just go talk to them?

[kingrukus]

its better than living in a neighborhood where the youths are breaking into cars at night, and holding up the good residents with guns. i would rather have a friendly asian steal my bananas anyday.

[viss]

If you know where those people live, why not just go talk to them?

My thoughts exactly. What's the point of rallying a bunch of people on the internet? The neighbourly thing to do is to go over and let them know that if they ever want any vegetables, to just ask you.

No need to hose, setup a camera, or call the police....all over a bunch of home grown vegetables? Come on.

[wszeto28]

You should first clarify with your neighbour that has the garden.

I wouldn't be surprised if people were stealing vegetables. I've seen people steal flowers from gardens before. A few years ago, my mom had gone to Costco to buy these nice flower baskets to hang up the lights at the front of the house. She bought them and then hung them up. The next day they were gone.

[vaportech]

Lol pretty jokes. That sucks tho. Op just confront them in the act. Be like wtf you doing? The shame will not make em come back trust me. Let them take one or two and ask then go outside to confront them.

[Jimboski]

its better than living in a neighborhood where the youths are breaking into cars at night, and holding up the good residents with guns. i would rather have a friendly asian steal my bananas anyday.

They're not friendly If they are stealing from you!
Also I wouldn't mind bananas.. Where you located? :).

[lazymonkeygod]

There are bad people in all races. You shouldn't single out chinese people.


I am not offended at all that you mention it is an Asian family that does this. And I also wouldn't be surprised if they are Chinese. All Chinese people know that there are "bad" Chinese in this world. It's a shame but that's the way it is.

[lazymonkeygod]

Just go over to their house and take something off their porch.


Well this is just a semi rant, but an observation I've been noticing for the past few days. Don't know if this thread will be locked but here goes.

So my family and I live in a new community in Richmond Hill/Aurora for the past 1 year and as it is, at the back, there is no fence dividing the houses from side to side and the older houses in the back. So pretty much its an open space. However as residences, we have to follow the rules and not trespass onto another's property without the owners consent.

That being said, there is this one particular family (Asian, yes sorry to bring the fact up) that lives 6 houses down (1st house on the street). My mom and I have been noticing that in the evening times, they have been coming down all the way to one of our neighbour's house who lives one house behind us. He basically grows vegetables and so do we and what they do is, they start taking crops/vegetables from his garden and take it back to their house. They bring some sort of scissors to cut the vegetables from the plants.

My mom and I thought they're just observing, but actually they're "hoarding" off someone else. Its still not correct to trespass onto someone else's property as well.

They also tried coming to our house few times but have not seen anything been taken as of yet.

However, yesterday I was outside and when they came to that same neighbour's house, they immediately saw me and they looked surprised and hid the scissors behind their backs and went back to their house.

What do you guys think? Don't you think its rude for anyone to do such things?

Eventually we did inform our neighbour and now he keeps a constant watch on his garden and so do we.

[Jimboski]

Just go over to their house and take something off their porch.

That's not helping In anyway!

[lazymonkeygod]

Sure it does. You will feel better after.


That's not helping In anyway!

[wilsonlam97]

Lol they should know better but they don't.

Build a fence if you're so concerned.

[flashy_mcflash]

A fence made of people standing there with hoses.

[wilsonlam97]

They're not friendly If they are stealing from you!
Also I wouldn't mind bananas.. Where you located? :).

I would be pretty pissed if they stole all my bok choi! Instead here in Scarborough people keep stealing anything but the bok choi.

[Jimboski]

I would be pretty pissed if they stole all my bok choi! Instead here in Scarborough people keep stealing anything but the bok choi.

Looool!

[wilsonlam97]

You guys complain about your neighbours but I think mine are the worse. On the days I don't have the central a/c on and the windows are open my whole house smells like curry thanks to my neighbours and its the smelly kind of curry so it stinks. Its always daily right when I wake up. Then in the afternoon all the way till 10pm there is loud Jamaican music thumping in the neighborhood. All played on the crappiest of speakers.

In the winter I snowblow my premises and my neighbour expects me to snow blow theirs as well for free. Because of their attitude I've never done it again. I used to clear it up but now I just blow all my snow there.

[Mars2012]

You guys complain about your neighbours but I think mine are the worse. On the days I don't have the central a/c on and the windows are open my whole house smells like curry thanks to my neighbours and its the smelly kind of curry so it stinks. Its always daily right when I wake up. Then in the afternoon all the way till 10pm there is loud Jamaican music thumping in the neighborhood. All played on the crappiest of speakers.

In the winter I snowblow my premises and my neighbour expects me to snow blow theirs as well for free. Because of their attitude I've never done it again. I used to clear it up but now I just blow all my snow there.
My neighbourhood has changed drastically the past five years...I can't stand the smell of the neighbour's curry either. What's worse is that they don't maintain their yard...I wonder if they think it's "beneath them" or something.

Funny you should mention about the weird music. I was in the house one day and there was this really loud music coming from outside. I thought it was just someone with their car stereo cranked up, but curiosity got the better of me and I went outside to check. Turns out, two doors down from me, there was a wedding party in the driveway with a full marching band...they are middle eastern, don't know if that's a cultural thing, but it was so unexpected in this area...until now, that is.

[lazymonkeygod]

is the smell of curry worst that the smell of dog poo? Does your neighbor let their dogs out into their back yard and just let them do their business there?

[Ottomaddox]

Just go over to their house and leave something on their porch.

Fixed.

[onetruguju]

was hoping for a crazy story...

I've got a neighbour who currently lives in the garage.
first impression would scare the bejesus out of you. but dudes not bad.

he'll help shovel snow, cut my lawn, pull some weeds, bring in the garbage cans...

Dont see myself moving back into toronto's burbs - mainly for the reasons you guys all have...

[arclite]

is the smell of curry worst that the smell of dog poo? Does your neighbor let their dogs out into their back yard and just let them do their business there?

I don't think there can be any odour more foul than stinky tofu.

[aplayaz2000]

like something u see from a movie

just kill with fire

[ji2o0k]

I don't think there can be any odour more foul than stinky tofu.you obviously haven't smelled my feet...

Especially after a long day at the office or after a couple hrs of bball....whew, take a whiff and it can kill you!

[wilsonlam97]

is the smell of curry worst that the smell of dog poo? Does your neighbor let their dogs out into their back yard and just let them do their business there?

Many of my neighbour's houses DO smell like poo.

[lazymonkeygod]

like a bag of burning dog poo?


Fixed.

[djemzine]

Any how I think this thread is getting slightly off topic lol.

Long story short, I'll inform the neighbour today or tomorrow. I'll also confront the two that are stealing the next time I see them trying to pull this off.

[Purgatory]

You should first clarify with your neighbour that has the garden.

I wouldn't be surprised if people were stealing vegetables. I've seen people steal flowers from gardens before. A few years ago, my mom had gone to Costco to buy these nice flower baskets to hang up the lights at the front of the house. She bought them and then hung them up. The next day they were gone.

Yeah, it is crazy what some people will do.

We planted a nice garden at our cottage last year, and we went up this year and someone decided to clean them all out. All my beautiful hostas and peonies were just gone. Some people just have no shame!

[radioheadrules]

This reminds me of when I used to live in the Annex in Toronto, and I saw this Oriental lady walking up people's driveways and taking their returnable bottles from their recycle bins. Does anyone living there still see her doing that?

[lazymonkeygod]

would you prefer the smell of curry or poo?


Many of my neighbour's houses DO smell like poo.

[sylpherware]

Any how I think this thread is getting slightly off topic lol.

Long story short, I'll inform the neighbour today or tomorrow. I'll also confront the two that are stealing the next time I see them trying to pull this off.

Bring one or two chinese friends with you, just so you know if they talk behind your back ;)

[wilsonlam97]

My neighbourhood has changed drastically the past five years...I can't stand the smell of the neighbour's curry either. What's worse is that they don't maintain their yard...I wonder if they think it's "beneath them" or something.

Funny you should mention about the weird music. I was in the house one day and there was this really loud music coming from outside. I thought it was just someone with their car stereo cranked up, but curiosity got the better of me and I went outside to check. Turns out, two doors down from me, there was a wedding party in the driveway with a full marching band...they are middle eastern, don't know if that's a cultural thing, but it was so unexpected in this area...until now, that is.

The curry is just the worst smelling curry I've witnessed in my life. Don't get me wrong I like curry but this is just cruel amounts of contaminated air particles. There is like 5+ houses that are doing this and even though they are a couple houses down the smell is strong. One of my neighbours also smoke weed and never maintain their house. It's just a disgusting place. They take advantage of the fact that they leased the home. They park 3 cars in a single car driveway by stealing space off the neighbours and by using the lawn. The lawn has a crushed path way made with concrete and they completely destroyed that to pieces by driving over it.

[wilsonlam97]

would you prefer the smell of curry or poo?

I prefer that there ISN'T a smell. I suffocate when I walk outside.


Spring is the worst season. It's when its the strongest.

[wilsonlam97]

This reminds me of when I used to live in the Annex in Toronto, and I saw this Oriental lady walking up people's driveways and taking their returnable bottles from their recycle bins. Does anyone living there still see her doing that?

There was a man on a trike in my neighbourhood that went house to house to collect plastics. I rather let him do it then deny him so that I have more space in my blue bin.

[Jimboski]

My neighbors are cool, That's good!

[djemzine]

Bring one or two chinese friends with you, just so you know if they talk behind your back ;)

Sadly I don't have any close by lol.

[popcorneater]

Get some manniquens, dress them up like this, 100% guaranteed they dont' come back

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yDE0lRiOQ84/Tq9iQUsl55I/AAAAAAAAAWM/qkQxtBPtVgg/s1600/chinese-vampires.jpg

[Simaahoy]

So this thread is about smell now? Derailed

[mysticalinfluence]

I don't think there can be any odour more foul than stinky tofu.

There is heavy weed smoking neighbours in apartment, smells like dead skunk.

[vistaliving]

Bring one or two chinese friends with you, just so you know if they talk behind your back ;)

Or when they claim they don't speak English, you'll have someone to translate.

[AudiDude]

You mentioned the garden owner was Italian. I used to live in an older neighbourhood (in Richmond Hill) which had a lot of first generation Italians that grown more in their garden that they can eat. Obviously, they are culturally very generous with their food and they would be offended if you did not take their food on offer. With that, there are sometimes open with their garden and give permission with the close neighbours.

No effiin' way would an Italian person let you go into the garden and get anything unless you are a relative. You can wait while we get the vegetables, but never touch an Italian's tomatoes. I'd take a picture of the thievery and give it to the Italian guy and let nature take it's course.


The screwed up thing is that whoever uses the hose would likely get charged for assault like David Chen

I have to admit I turned the hose on a neighbour and he had to run away. I was nine when I did that one.

[djemzine]

Mods, as a request, if thread is derailed, please lock thread.

Thanks

[wilsonlam97]

Sadly I don't have any close by lol.

What kind of person in Richmond Hill doesn't know a Asian neighbour?

[Ottomaddox]

but never touch an Italian's tomatoes.

Words to live by.

[blainehamilton]

We had the same problem a couple of years ago, someone stole some corn, peas, and a couple of mature pumpkins from our garden.

I put some exacto blades into a couple more cobbs of corn and smeared dogcrap all over a third pumpkin that was rotton on the bottom. Those dissapeared a couple of days later.

Never had anything else dissapear since, so whoever was doing it either moved, died, or got the message and just stopped.

[starboy869]

One thing I learned about this thread. Your neighbour in the GTA is an ***** and rather post ***** on the internet and needs to be spoon fed on what to do. Let me guess uni degree?

No self-estem, & no balls. Welcome to living in the GTA.

Since you need to be spoon-fed

1. Go talk to neighbour with garden about the veggies.
2. Go back to your life.

[Becks]

"Good fences make for good neighbours."

I don't have a good fence, so people alway steal stuff. If they can see it, they can covet it. I've had sunflowers, dahlias, lilies, rhododendrons, opium poppies, asian pears, goji berries and its related plant, stolen by people walking by or who live nearby. (Car was stolen, license plate stolen a few times, boat stolen.) One of my neighbours saw me upset and he said that I should be happy that the stolen plants made someone else happy. I think the best advice is not to expect people to behave properly. You have to adjust your expectations or else build a barrier or alarm system. It is ridiculous to think that everyone is a good person and be surprised when something happens.

Funny, one time a neighbour and I were salvaging some granite blocks from a demolition site with permission from the developer, for use in a community project. There were some passersby who thought we were stealing! So, it's best not to assume those neighbours were stealing. (However, in all likelihood they were.)

[Jimboski]

No effiin' way would an Italian person let you go into the garden and get anything unless you are a relative. You can wait while we get the vegetables, but never touch an Italian's tomatoes. I'd take a picture of the thievery and give it to the Italian guy and let nature take it's course.



I have to admit I turned the hose on a neighbour and he had to run away. I was nine when I did that one.

You shorten them on that tomato sauce and you are done!