Real Estate - Corrections in ontario land registry documents

[leafnation5]

I moved in my house 10 years ago. Recently I noticed that service address on land registry documents was typed wrong by the lawyer (instead of 122, it is typed as 212. All other information is correct.

Called Service Ontario office, they are telling me contact the original lawyer. I am asking them how can I do it myself but CSR has a standard reply...talk to your lawyer. The lawyer has stopped giving real estate services anymore.

How can I get it corrected in land registry office by myself? Anybody went thru same process or any other insight on the subject.

[canehdianman]

Call them back, tell them your lawyer isn't practising law anymore and see if they are more willing to help.

I imagine you will need to cure the defect with a re-registration however.

[leafnation5]

I think Re-registration is not an option because this would mean I have to sell my house to myself and pay land registration tax. Does not seems to be right.

[y2jversion1]

Just had a listing yesterday that had the same issue - semi detached where both units had the same address - HOWEVER in the land registry, the legal description was clearly different and I had the seller call the land registry (in Toronto) and they corrected the mistake right away.

[Zamboni]

Send an email to your lawyer, ask him the best way to handle this since "lawyer has stopped giving real estate services anymore." If he is still practicising ask if he wants you to go through his errors and omisions insurance or if he has a fellow lawyers that will correct this as a favour.

[leafnation5]

Thanks!!

I called Toronto office. Nobody picked up the phone and asked for a message on VM. Peel CSR has a standard reply.

My issue is that this is old registration. I will go their office but need to be informed before that on the process.

[leafnation5]

Send an email to your lawyer, ask him the best way to handle this since "lawyer has stopped giving real estate services anymore." If he is still practicising ask if he wants you to go through his errors and omisions insurance or if he has a fellow lawyers that will correct this as a favour.

already did and waiting for a response.

[M1K3Z0R]

Good luck OP! Good thing you caught the error sooner rather than later

[licenced]

Since it is the address for service and not the address of the property being conveyed, you can download this form:

http://www.ontario.ca/ontprodconsume/groups/content/@onca/@bundles/@landreg/documents/document/ont06_017913.pdf

and visit the nearest land registry office - not kiosk to make the change yourself. To be sure, take the Agreement of Sale, Transfer of Title and photo id with you.

The only reason they may have to not accommodate you is that title registrations are the domain of lawyers and conveyancers in which case you could find a conveyencer through the land registry's section of Ontario's site.


Hope that helps.

[leafnation5]

The only reason they may have to not accommodate you is that title registrations are the domain of lawyers and conveyancers in which case you could find a conveyencer through the land registry's section of Ontario's site.

Hope that helps.

Thanks!!!

Just wondering, why would I need a conveyencer to do this? I understand that your comment could be possibility. I am owner of the property and I should able to represent my self.

I will go tomorrow there and get an update in person.

[riz1]

here is the number Y2Jversion1 is reffering to for the land registry office. As Y2J identified the Land registry folks told the client they will update it right away. Try this method as it seems to have worked for our client without him going in circles...

416-360-7542
1-866-237-5937
(toll free) 123 Front Street West
Suite 700
Toronto
ON M5J 2M2

[leafnation5]

here is the number Y2Jversion1 is reffering to for the land registry office. As Y2J identified the Land registry folks told the client they will update it right away. Try this method as it seems to have worked for our client without him going in circles...

416-360-7542
1-866-237-5937
(toll free) 123 Front Street West
Suite 700
Toronto
ON M5J 2M2

Thanks, I will call them tomorrow. How did client confirm that infact they did the change? Was there any acknowledgement he or she got on a later date?

I will update on my experience.

[leafnation5]

Went to Land Registry office....they said that service address has no relevance to land registry or its title. They do not search or maintain records by service address. I did document review report at the office and found that all particulars were fine. There was no reference of service address on the documents.

They told me that only time it can be changed only at the sale of house next time.

I call Terranet office as well. They said that they do not do service address changes.

May be I should also confirm with a lawyer.

[riz1]

Went to Land Registry office....they said that service address has no relevance to land registry or its title. They do not search or maintain records by service address. I did document review report at the office and found that all particulars were fine. There was no reference of service address on the documents.

They told me that only time it can be changed only at the sale of house next time.

I call Terranet office as well. They said that they do not do service address changes.

May be I should also confirm with a lawyer.


typicaly Govermenet office i guess. One says one thing the other says another. We will be checking our lawyer also on that in a few days as the Land Registry only give my clients verbal assurance that all is good. Giving them benefit of the doubt and have the lawyers check thier version of the registry next week. Either way its good for my clients as I can see the Plan and Part differences on the 2 properties in the Registry which I usally depend on.

let us know how yours come along. Thanks

[leafnation5]

typicaly Govermenet office i guess. One says one thing the other says another. We will be checking our lawyer also on that in a few days as the Land Registry only give my clients verbal assurance that all is good. Giving them benefit of the doubt and have the lawyers check thier version of the registry next week. Either way its good for my clients as I can see the Plan and Part differences on the 2 properties in the Registry which I usally depend on.

let us know how yours come along. Thanks

I know. That is why I did document check on their system. They charged me $8 for document search. The information was correct on the documents and I matched that with survey. There was no mention of service address on any of documents that I got.

Let me know what you could find out from your lawyer. I am also contacting another lawyer in next week just to get an opinion.

[licenced]

Op, therein lies the rub with the land registry office and the sole right given to lawyers and their conveyors to register Transfer of Title documents which was done to limit the perpetration of a fraud against the rightful owner.

The LRO was correct that the address for service has no bearing on your title. It is only the address for the delivery of documents e.g municipal tax notices. That is, someone can buy 10 City Street and have the address for receipt of documents for that property directed to 20 Urban Street where they happen to reside. Being a non-searchable field suggests it might have to do with privacy laws for example if the owner resides elsewhere that information is private and not relevant to the registered property. Why they provide the document to change the A of S but won't is puzzling.

I’m not surprised Teranet couldn’t help. It’s not a land registry office. They are Ontario’s agent for facilitating electronic filing of documents by lawyers and their conveyencers into the land titles system and the means by which electronic searches are conducted by lawyers, real estate agents etc. Perhaps if it was something specific to description of the parcel of land they might, from a telephone request, forward it to the appropriate registry office for investigation and correction because they actually insure the accuracy of that information. Hopefully they wouldn’t take it for granted that the person calling on the phone to change an address for service is in fact the rightful owner of the property otherwise it defeats the purpose of electronic registration to prevent fraud.

Having said that, it’s probably worthwhile for your piece of mind to find out exactly what if any adverse impact the incorrect address of service on the Transfer of Title could have since you obviously receive your tax notices. By the way, the lawyer's firm if it is still around would be responsible for your registration with the LRO.

These are links to free legal online Q&A services.

http://www.legalline.ca/

http://legal.advicescene.com/ca/answered