Re-uploading to Youtube...

[ur_funneh]

I'm in the process of creating a new youtube account, but I was told it's impossible to transfer youtube videos from one account to another and the only method is to download from youtube and then reupload from your other account. So I ask this, will the downloaded video get altered once more if I reupload the same video to youtube in the same format I grabbed it from?

I don't want to lose anymore quality as it is. Thanks

[Jimboski]

Are you trying to become a YouTube celebrity?

[ur_funneh]

Not at all, I am just questioning the quality of the video and wanted to ask in case anyone knew. We gonna start avoiding my question and start battling irrelevant topics?? And if you have nothing constructive related to my question I suggest you don't bother replying because you aren't helping me right now.

[Jimboski]

Use Google. Probably be better then waiting for responses on RFD.

[ur_funneh]

Tried that, it thinks I am trying to maintain quality when uploading to youtube. Glad you're participating in my help and not being a douche.

[Jimboski]

Tried that, it thinks I am trying to maintain quality when uploading to youtube. Glad you're participating in my help and not being a douche.

Not sure If serious.

[Cafe_333]

If you download the video file directly from youtube and upload that file to another youtube account, the video quality will be slightly degraded and not as sharp. I did a side by side comparison and I can definitely tell the difference. The average viewer however probably won't notice unless they did a side by side comparison too. I should note though that with HD videos the degradation may not be as apparent. In any case, since you claim to be the original owner of these videos, why not just upload the originals instead of downloading it off of your youtube account?

[ShadowVlican]

Why do this? Don't have the originals anymore?

[MkmBandit]

If it's a 1080p video, the quality will for sure be degraded simply by YouTube deinterlacing. If the video was 1072p, the quality would have held up better. But ofc it still won't be what the original was. Even more so if you're using high bitrate or lossless audio, and especially if the original was a framerate higher then 29.97fps.

Point? Youtube compression is awful. But for most cam video's the quality should suffice, CGI -> YMMV. I render out all my video's at 1920x1072 @ 256kbps audio, thats usually enough to keep YT's slimy hands off my work.

[ur_funneh]

I lost all my originals

[Ebeniz]

I'm in the process of creating a new youtube account, but I was told it's impossible to transfer youtube videos from one account to another and the only method is to download from youtube and then reupload from your other account. So I ask this, will the downloaded video get altered once more if I reupload the same video to youtube in the same format I grabbed it from?

I don't want to lose anymore quality as it is. Thanks

Yes it makes a difference... This guy tried it 1000 times


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icruGcSsPp0

It's have nothing to do with De-interlacing or some weird 1072p format... It's just recompressing it every time you upload.

[MkmBandit]

It's have nothing to do with De-interlacing or some weird 1072p format... It's just recompressing it every time you upload.

? It absolutely makes a difference. If YT alters the format of the video, how can you say it has nothing to do with the final result? Colours get eschewed slightly and aspect ratio gets thrown out of whack. Ofc this only applies to 1080p video's as far as I know.

[xalex0]

This guy tried it 1000 times
I guess the rule 34 needs another subsection.

[ur_funneh]

Hahaha thats a funny yet interesting video. I guess re-uploading it once wouldn't be as bad as I thought.

[george__]

@OP... Now you learned lesson. Keep original somewhere and modify copies of the original.

[Ebeniz]

? It absolutely makes a difference. If YT alters the format of the video, how can you say it has nothing to do with the final result? Colours get eschewed slightly and aspect ratio gets thrown out of whack. Ofc this only applies to 1080p video's as far as I know.

really? why would youtube change the Aspect Ratio of a 1080p video? You upload a 1920x1080 video it will stay 1920x1080... So where's the "aspect ratio gets thrown out of whack"? The only video format I know gets changed is 4k. They down convert it to 2k...

The colours getting "eschewed" is because of the re-compression.

Here's a 4k video converted to 2k (2048x1536)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t56ooXC9VmY

[MkmBandit]

really? why would youtube change the Aspect Ratio of a 1080p video? You upload a 1920x1080 video it will stay 1920x1080... So where's the "aspect ratio gets thrown out of whack"? The only video format I know gets changed is 4k. They down convert it to 2k...

The colours getting "eschewed" is because of the re-compression.

Here's a 4k video converted to 2k (2048x1536)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t56ooXC9VmY

You're probably right about the colours part, but I do notice that in my 1080p video's the dark dark's, anything with a black background ends up blocky. Oddly I don't have that issue when I upload any other resolution, like the arbitrary 1072p that I've started to use as my output. I use a solid codec/container (WM9) but YT still reaps havoc on my 1080p video's, and anytime I render out at 50fps (I usually stick to 29.97fps).

I really can't say what the result is with Cam footage though I'd imagine it's the same result as with gaming footage. You'll also notice in the comments of very high quality YouTube gameplay video's, people are baffled over the level of quality. The trick is usually as simple as outputting at a resolution that I mentioned. Or... upload to Vimeo where there's no such compression.

I have a very old example vid I can post for you if you like, just ask (I don't promote my own video's without request on RFD). YouTube made absolute mince meat of this 1080p video @50fps. Lesson learned.

[ur_funneh]

Ok now, by me clicking on that link and having the option to choose "original", does that mean its the original format in which youtube did not compress it?

Or do they mean Original as in the aspect ratio/resolution is the same but they still compressed the video? Definition of Original is what I'm asking

[Ebeniz]

Ok now, by me clicking on that link and having the option to choose "original", does that mean its the original format in which youtube did not compress it?

Or do they mean Original as in the aspect ratio/resolution is the same but they still compressed the video? Definition of Original is what I'm asking

It's always going to be compressed... "ORIGINAL" is anything over 1920x1080.


You're probably right about the colours part, but I do notice that in my 1080p video's the dark dark's, anything with a black background ends up blocky.

Always compress your 1080p videos with H.264 (not WMV) at the highest bitrate you are comfortable with and make it 24 frames a sec. There's no point uploading 50fps when youtube's max is 30fps

[MkmBandit]

Always compress your 1080p videos with H.264 (not WMV) at the highest bitrate you are comfortable with and make it 24 frames a sec. There's no point uploading 50fps when youtube's max is 30fps

I've come to realize that over the years. All my vids now are 29.97fps. Even then, for some reason the resolution issue still messes with me. H264 doesn't yield any better results for me, WM9 @12mbps works fine. I'm OK with the larger filesizes.

[Cafe_333]

Hahaha thats a funny yet interesting video. I guess re-uploading it once wouldn't be as bad as I thought.You'll notice in that 'VIDEO ROOM 1000 COMPLETE MIX' video that it starts to get quite pixelated after 5 re-uploads. As the original video owner, you'll notice slight pixelation even after just 1 re-upload. However it will likely only be noticeable to you doing a side by side comparison. It just depends on how firm you were when you said 'I don't want to lose anymore quality as it is'.

I uploaded a tv tuner recording of Nikki Yanofsky during Day 2 of the 2010 Vancouver Olympics (before the song became overplayed) because I was a fan of hers back before when she used to do small gigs at First Canadian Place. Three days later someone had stole it and re-uploaded it to their account. I was a little peeved that his video ended up getting 20,000 more views and is now the top search... Hard lesson learned - watermark all your videos lol. Anyway, you can be the judge:

Original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLzxw7VS0r4
Stolen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht6mKtWAFW0

[ur_funneh]

Weird that video wasn't taken down, thats a CTV logo right there. Not sure why its not being permanently deleted due to copyright sanctions...

[Ebeniz]

Original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLzxw7VS0r4
Stolen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht6mKtWAFW0

That's because the person that "stole" it downloaded the lower quality version 360p while yours is 480p. That's why you see a difference.

[psyko514]

Weird that video wasn't taken down, thats a CTV logo right there. Not sure why its not being permanently deleted due to copyright sanctions...

Different content owners use different rules. There's a link to download the track on iTunes under the video and I suspect the cash goes to CTV. Some studios just require YouTube to strip the sound.