Xbox 360???

[doc_ock]

Leo Chan - Friday, February 4th, 2005 | 5:41PM (PST)

Next-gen Xbox may be named at last, at least behind Microsoft's doors

Engadget has strong reason to believe (in the form of a "trusted source") that the next Xbox console from Microsoft could be named the "Xbox 360". A few unofficial names for the Xbox successor have been floating around the net for quite some time now, the more popular ones being "Xbox Next", the more pedestrian "Xbox 2" and even "Xenon".

"Our source, who has worked on several projects involving the Xbox and the Xbox 360, has seen the proposed packaging and other design elements for the new console, and says that as of right now the console is being branded as the “Xbox 360.�"

According to the news byte, the name "Xbox 360" has actually emerged in past before, reportedly as a choice for a survey conducted by Microsoft and Schoen & Berland Associates last year to see what name consumers would find most attractive for the new Xbox. Whether the rumored confirmation of Xbox 360 being the final name was a direct result of this survey remains to be seen. We wouldn't be surprised if we heard more speculation to that effect in the coming weeks!
Anderson Cooper from CNN should sue Microsoft if the go ahead with this name. :lol:

[Fantaz]

Sounds true. Although couldn't care less about the name.

[jerryhussain]

Read this yesterday .. name doesnt makes sense as of now, maybe once we know the significance of "360".

Maybe Xbox 360 >> PS 3 instead of Xbox 2 < PS 3

[Fantaz]

Maybe Xbox 360 >> PS 3 instead of Xbox 2 < PS 3

lol! probably.

[JayPatel]

XBOX 360 -> We've come full circle and still can't beat Sony :)

[Carnage]

XBOX 360 -> We've come full circle and still can't beat Sony :)

Or maybe they're planning on running cirlces around Sony. ;)

I'd hardly call Sony a favourite at this point. MS proved alot of people wrong with the Xbox. If sony doesn't watch it they will fall behind like what has happened to Sega and Nintendo.

[divx]

xbox proved me wrong not because it have good games, but because it has a built in hdd and easily modding which makes an excellent multimedia pc with superb TV Out quality :lol: and a cheap price.

[konfusion666]

Or maybe they're planning on running cirlces around Sony. ;)


if i'm not mistaken, spec-wise they are a notch below the PS 3.

as for game quality, that's up to individuals. some people prefer xbox games. me, i think most of the good ones get on PC eventually.
PS2 on the other hand, still had plenty of exclusives that never made it to PC. It's much easier to port xbox games to PC compared to PS2.

[crimsona]

Or maybe they're planning on running cirlces around Sony. ;)

I'd hardly call Sony a favourite at this point. MS proved alot of people wrong with the Xbox. If sony doesn't watch it they will fall behind like what has happened to Sega and Nintendo.

Only in North America could you even hint that.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/topten.htm

Japan Sony PS2 sales:
56,374 week ending 23rd
246,612 in 2005

Japan Xbox sales:
498 week ending 23rd
2,183 in 2005

Hardly a fight. Even the Gamecube had 5,359 and 32,537 respectively

http://www.the-magicbox.com/topten.htm

[cmge]

Only in North America could you even hint that.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/topten.htm

Japan Sony PS2 sales:
56,374 week ending 23rd
246,612 in 2005

Japan Xbox sales:
498 week ending 23rd
2,183 in 2005

Hardly a fight. Even the Gamecube had 5,359 and 32,537 respectively

http://www.the-magicbox.com/topten.htm
yeah no matter how hard M$ tries in Japan.... it will always be outsold by Sony and Nintendo

[doc_ock]

Check out these numbers:
I now have the regional sales for each platform.

North America
PlayStation 2 - 32.86 million
Xbox - 13.2 million
GameCube - 10.11 million

Japan / Asia
PlayStation 2 - 19.47 million
Xbox - 1.7 million
GameCube - 3.78 million

Europe / PAL
PlayStation 2 - 29.06 million
Xbox - 5.0 million
GameCube - 4.13 million

Worldwide
PlayStation 2 - 81.39 million
Xbox - 19.9 million
GameCube - 18.03 million

All Three Consoles
North America - 56.17 million (47.08%)
Japan / Asia - 24.95 million (20.91%)
Europe / PAL - 38.19 million (32.01%)
Worldwide - 119.32 million

I'll list the Handhelds separately, since there are three.

North America
Game Boy Advance - 32.82 million
Nintendo DS - 1.36 million
PlayStation Portable - N/A

Japan / Asia
Game Boy Advance - 15.48 million
Nintendo DS - 1.45 million
PlayStation Portable - 0.51 million

Europe / PAL
Game Boy Advance - 17.44 million
Nintendo DS - 0.03 million
PlayStation Portable - N/A

Worldwide
Game Boy Advance - 65.74 million
Nintendo DS - 2.84 million
PlayStation Portable - 0.51 million

All numbers are total sales till the End of 2004.
Here's the link (http://journal.pcvsconsole.com/?thread=8498).

[ChinpokoMon]

Hmmm......if the next Xbox is 360, will Nintendo still call its next one Revolution? ;)

[othy]

if i'm not mistaken, spec-wise they are a notch below the PS 3.


Whereabouts are the current specs for both machines? They seem to be changing on a monthly basis and I haven't really kept up.. Apart from Sony using a completely new and unproven (although possibly revolultionary) processor in the Cell chip, I'm in the dark as to what each has.. Last I heard the xbox 2/next/xenon/360 etc was going to have a PowerPC and ATI chip?

[jerryhussain]

if i'm not mistaken, spec-wise they are a notch below the PS 3.
How ?

Two G5 processors (from IBM) could easily beat a single 4.6GHz Cell processor (by Sony & IBM again :p).

Lets wait & watch ;)

[sfu_lifer]

Isn't the PS3's cell chip supposed to network and steal unused processing time from this whole worldwide "Cell network" like how the gaming toilet papers like EGM were hyping it up 3 years ago?

What a stupid name to pick. A full circle? WTH!
That means no progress to me :).

[Carnage]

Only in North America could you even hint that.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/topten.htm

Japan Sony PS2 sales:
56,374 week ending 23rd
246,612 in 2005

Japan Xbox sales:
498 week ending 23rd
2,183 in 2005

Hardly a fight. Even the Gamecube had 5,359 and 32,537 respectively

http://www.the-magicbox.com/topten.htm

And luckilly I am in north america.

Everyone knows that MS can't really gain ground in Asia/Japan.

My point was simply that PS3 is hardly a shoe in to win the next round of the console wars here.

[wanted]

LOL, Xbox 360:

A box isn't really 360 degrees, So it's now the X-Circle or Sphere.

[chdude3]

LOL, Xbox 360:

A box isn't really 360 degrees, So it's now the X-Circle or Sphere.Well, if you look at a square or rectangle, they've each got four 90 degree corners, for a total internal angle of 360.

[konfusion666]

at this point, we're all speculating when it comes to the Specs of both pieces of hardware.

as I am a non-console-person, i couldn't care less who "wins" since *I* lose in both cases (more game developers stop making PC games and move to the console market!)

we don't know which group within IBM is making the Core - but we have to assume they have inside knowledge of the PowerPC architecture, and perhaps are even using members of the PowerPC team. in which case, i'd expect them to set a goal of surpassing the previous generation of CPUs - and use all their resources to accomplish it.

my interest in the console market only goes as far as wishing the Xbox2 would come out sooner, so we can start seeing PC Video cards based upon the R500. :cheesygri

ultimately, even the next generation of consoles will see Sony maintain the *worldwide* lead in sales... i predict it'll be another 2 iterations of "console wars" before MS can hope to take a lead in this respect. either that or at some point they'll admit defeat and bow out of the console market. ;)

perhaps consoles will become irrelevant once they make DVD players/STBs "intelligent" and powerful enough.

[Carnage]

ultimately, even the next generation of consoles will see Sony maintain the *worldwide* lead in sales... i predict it'll be another 2 iterations of "console wars" before MS can hope to take a lead in this respect. either that or at some point they'll admit defeat and bow out of the console market. ;)


Worldwide, it's pretty much a sure thing that Sony will lead.

North America however I'd guess will be pretty close between MS and Sony.

[JayPatel]

How ?

Two G5 processors (from IBM) could easily beat a single 4.6GHz Cell processor (by Sony & IBM again :p).

Lets wait & watch ;)

Actually quite the opposite. word amongs the developers is that the PS3 will have the most muscle during the next generation of consoles. I dont really care much about the CELL aspect of the PS3, Im more interested in what Nvidia is cooking up for the GPU. I hope its feature set is leaps and bounds above the 6 series.

http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~camp/im4g3s/ea3.jpg

[jb22]

I was reading abotu the Cell cpu the other day and it sounds interesting, although I'm not sure about the whole idea of sharing cpu power over a network, I mean I'm just curious to see how well that would work. I really think Sony is going to focus strongly on the Cell's ability to protect copyrighted material, but from what I've read it uses up a lot of resources so I'm curious to see where Sony goes with that.

As for Microsoft, I think for their first system, they did do a pretty good job. I mean most people were ready to write them off from day one but when you consider that they got into the game late, where new to consoles and had to work to get developers to actually invest in creating content for their machine I think they did a good job. Just think about all the otehr consoles that failed from more established brands in the console market such as Atari, Sega and Neo Geo.

I really think Nintendo could surprise a lot of people though, as IMO they're really isn't that much hype around Nintendo's next system as it seems most people are focused on what Sony and MS have planned.

Either way, I think this is all great news for gamers. The next gen consoles are really fighting for our dollars, so hopefully Sony, Nintendo and MS will put out some great and innovative hardware. If one system offers an exceptional gaming experience over the otehr, then I'll buy that one and won't really care who makes it. I think we should really be concerned with the game developers and that they push themselves to put out quality and innovative titles.

[ledorky]

I was reading abotu the Cell cpu the other day and it sounds interesting, although I'm not sure about the whole idea of sharing cpu power over a network, I mean I'm just curious to see how well that would work. I really think Sony is going to focus strongly on the Cell's ability to protect copyrighted material, but from what I've read it uses up a lot of resources so I'm curious to see where Sony goes with that.

As for Microsoft, I think for their first system, they did do a pretty good job. I mean most people were ready to write them off from day one but when you consider that they got into the game late, where new to consoles and had to work to get developers to actually invest in creating content for their machine I think they did a good job. Just think about all the otehr consoles that failed from more established brands in the console market such as Atari, Sega and Neo Geo.

I really think Nintendo could surprise a lot of people though, as IMO they're really isn't that much hype around Nintendo's next system as it seems most people are focused on what Sony and MS have planned.

Either way, I think this is all great news for gamers. The next gen consoles are really fighting for our dollars, so hopefully Sony, Nintendo and MS will put out some great and innovative hardware. If one system offers an exceptional gaming experience over the otehr, then I'll buy that one and won't really care who makes it. I think we should really be concerned with the game developers and that they push themselves to put out quality and innovative titles.

Problem is no hype = no 3rd Party support. This has killed Nintendo since the N64 days. Ya they're still profitable but 3rd place may not be such a great place to be in the long run.