21" Dell trinitrons are back.

[ZenOps]

http://www.dfsdirect.ca/Merchan....Code=HD (http://www.dfsdirect.ca/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=DFS&Category_Code=HD)

They're back, saw 190 this morning.

Update: ordered up three on Dec 21st and arrived just recently, two are in good condition, one stood out from the others and was suprisingly *excellent*.  One was missing a SVGA cable.

They come by purolator, and DFS seems to give a slight shipping break if you order more than one.  Purolator can ship up to 4 items under one waybill.

Off topic reminder:  Warcraft III beta signups tonight!  www.blizzard.com

[Thisnthat]

Since there seems to be an unending supply of these things and the initial rush to buy, not to mention Xmas, is over, what are the odds that the price will come down on these monster monitors in the near future?  :)

[alkapone]

Could these be dot.com failure stock from the US? :0

[taxguru]

Could these be dot.com failure stock from the US? :0
More likely the arrival of these monitors follows the Nortel layoffs. :(

[dabson]

Just checked the site:


Sorry, we are currently sold out of 'SPECIAL - Dell 21" D1626HT Trinitron Monitor'. Please check back later.

[ZenOps]

#### you guys are fast.  All gone again.

I'm pretty sure these are from Nortel, the one that someone got that still had a "Nortel administrator sticker" was a big tipoff.

[Derek old2]

I wonder if someone put 100 into their cart and are holding it until the hour's up...

I posted this to the deals page BTW.

[9394]

Anyone had any experience with the 19inch monitors? I know people have had "problems" with the 21inch.

[ZenOps]

It looks like someone probably did put all of them in their basket, its back again.  Seems so weird, putting a couple hundred 21" monitors into a virtual basket (thats gotta be one big basket)

Silly people :D unless ya have a credit limit of about $50,000 and confirmed as a purchase, at the end of the hour it all goes back up for sale automagically.



Edited By ZenOps on Jan. 07 2002 at 20:30

[Anonymous]

Can Someone tell me if these are Flat Screens and if the res is good on them. I wanna buy one but i dont wanna waste cash.  If it is shipped to me and its broken what is the warranty.. do they have to wait until they are in stock.. One more thing.. what do they mean by off lease.. i mean could these bad boys have scratches on them or anything?

[ZenOps]

The markings on the back identify it as a Sony 21" Ultrascan 1600HS, it is not a G500 series.

It is not *perfectly* flat, only horizontally flat. *The left<>right curvature is very slight to almost unnoticable. *Most of the ones I have seen have good color, when used with a BNC cable it improves to excellent color and sharpness.

You can run 1600x1200 75 hz, but I'm sure the recommended resolution is 1280x1024 at 85 or 90 hz.

I believe the 19" P991 is a perfectflat screen, or at least a lot closer to being totally flat. (Its a little newer than the 21", by about 6 months)



Edited By ZenOps on Jan. 07 2002 at 22:39

[scousi]

They are selling them in the States at $299 US!!

http://www.dfsdirectsales.com/dfsdire....HD51L58 (http://www.dfsdirectsales.com/dfsdirect/monitor_inventory.asp?category%5Fid=11955&model=21++%2819%2E8+vis%29&mscssid=USCSA7ENJ56P9PX93BUK0F9Q2HD51L58)

[bjan]

They can do 1600x1200 @85 hz.

[ZenOps]

Dell 21"

I just avoid 1600x1200 85Hz, its pushing the monitor right to the maximum (and I want these ones to last for more than a few years.) *Monitors do not overclock like processors do.

Besides, its hard to surf at that resolution even with extra large size fonts (high res is good for adobe users tho)

WindowsXP autodetects the monitor and specifies the max refresh rates 1600x1200 @ 75hz, 1280x1024 @ 90hz, 1152x864 @100hz, 1024x768 @ 120hz, 800x600 @ 160hz, and 640x480 @160hz.

The documentation on Dell's website specifies the monitor to do a maximum 85hz at all resolutions up to 1600x1200. (I'd be willing to bet someone just got lazy and forgot to fill in the other resolutions)

I tend to believe XP, because it is confirmed by powerstrip reading EDID data straight from the monitor.



Edited By ZenOps on Jan. 09 2002 at 13:22

[bylo]

Dell 21"

I just avoid 1600x1200 85Hz, ...its hard to surf at that resolution even with extra large size fonts (high res is good for adobe users tho)
I guess it depends. I've been using a laptop with 15" LCD at 1600 x 1200 for over a year. It's wonderful even though my eyes are probably twice as old as the average on this board ;) *

I'd never go back to lower res. In fact 1024 x 768 on my home PC can be a pain because of all the scrolling. Of course LCDs are inherently crisper than CRTs.

[BigFoot]

They are selling them in the States at $299 US!!

http://www.dfsdirectsales.com/dfsdire....HD51L58 (http://www.dfsdirectsales.com/dfsdirect/monitor_inventory.asp?category%5Fid=11955&model=21++%2819%2E8+vis%29&mscssid=USCSA7ENJ56P9PX93BUK0F9Q2HD51L58)
nice to see canadians are getting the better deal here.

[scousi]

Or are they getting the better monitors? !!!

[ZenOps]

Eheh, I guess I am a little biased too... &nbsp;I've got two trinitrons running side by side on a Radeon 7500, so I have quite a bit of screen real estate, even only running each at 1280x1024 ;) &nbsp;Not much need for 1600x1200 here...

Speaking of laptops, I have a 486SX NEC with DSTN color backlit 640x480 9.5 inch screen (yes that small!) &nbsp;It runs at a refresh rate of 60hz, the flicker is not immediately noticable like in a CRT. &nbsp;Its good for checking email and thats about it, anything longer and I just wanna rip my eyeballs out of my head. &nbsp;Hard to imagine that one day long ago, it was top of the line...

Side note: if you run dual monitors make sure to shield them from each other with a piece of metal, or you'll get a ton of left<>right colorshifting.

[Fresco]

To whomever is interested I just received my monitors from Dell.
I got a 19" and 21".
The 19" had a small (5") crack near the top right of the front of the monitor but it still works perfectly.
The 21" is i-f***ing-mmaculate, absolutely gorgeous....so glad I bought it.
will take pictures and post them next week.

[hagbard]

Could these be dot.com failure stock from the US? :0
More likely the arrival of these monitors follows the Nortel layoffs. :(
I ought to get one (or ten) for free given all the money I've lost on Nortel! &nbsp;:angry:

[hagbard]

Or are they getting the better monitors? !!!
You get the ones they've returned &nbsp;:p

[bjan]

Interesting note:
Went to an Able Auctions in Vancouver today and they had a boatload of Nortel's 21" Trinitrons, probably from the Richomond centre that got shut down. &nbsp;Most of them were very nice looking, but many people at the auction have never heard of dfs direct and were paying upwards of $500 + 15% buyer's premium + tax for them.

Ouch.

[Rehan]

In auctions, they tend to fetch a bit more than the price on dfsdirect.ca... For example, see this one (http://cgi.ebay.ca/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1314072497) on eBay. &nbsp;It says "This system is sold by Dell Financial Services (Canada)" and even links to dfsdirect.ca, yet the price for that 19" monitor is much higher on eBay. &nbsp;Go figure...

[mikman]

I went ahead and ordered one of these, then I found this forum and read all the nasty posts about the DOA monitors recieved... :-( &nbsp;although I think everyone in the end was a satisfied customer... &nbsp;did anyone order with a credit card? &nbsp;how long did it take them to charge it? &nbsp;I ordered on Wed, now Saturday. Thanks.

Mike

[Hippak]

Anyone know how long dfsdirect usually takes to ship? &nbsp;ALso i just ordered a monitor yesterday and i printed my invoice; however there's no tracking number or anything on it. &nbsp;Is it possible to track your order? &nbsp;Thanks lots!

[mikman]

I found this on the dfs website in the faq:

Q: How long will it take to receive my system ?

A: You should receive your order within 7-10 business days from receipt of payment

So I guess not too long if you paid by credit card, however if you sent a cheque probably longer for the cheque to clear like an extra 10 days...

Mike

[scousi]

Ordered my 21" last Tuesday morning and I received it today. I paid with my credit card. It was made in 1998 but it still looks new! The image quality is impeccable. No regrets so far! One of my co-workers ordered a 19" at about the same tiem and he received his on Friday. The amount of bubble wrap they use is quite overwhelming! It was very well packed. The only problem was lugging this thing to the second floor since it weighs 85 lb! It uses quite a lot of real-estate on my desk!

I recommend it to anyone! Dell has probably ironed out some of their bugs earlier on. They probably test them more rigorously before shipping them.

[scousi]

Ordered my 21" last Tuesday morning and I received it today. I paid with my credit card. It was made in 1998 but it still looks new! The image quality is impeccable. No regrets so far! One of my co-workers ordered a 19" at about the same time and he received his on Friday. The amount of bubble wrap they use is quite overwhelming! It was very well packed. The only problem was lugging this thing to the second floor since it weighs 85 lb! It uses quite a lot of real-estate on my desk!

I recommend it to anyone! Dell has probably ironed out some of their bugs earlier on. They probably test them more rigorously before shipping them.

[Hippak]

I ordered mine yesterday night (sunday) and i'm just sitting here waiting for that bad boy. been running a tiny 17 inch monitor with an annoying raibow across the middle of the thing so i can't wait for this badboy.. Hope its alright.. only thing i'm worried about is if its banged up or soemthing?... hope its not cracked..

[mikman]

#### now I am pumped, I ordered mine last week wednesday night. &nbsp;If things go well Like scousi then I could have mine as early as tomorrow :-) SWEET!

[Anonymous]

I ordered mine sunday night but my credit card hasnt been charged yet.. anyone know if thats anything to worry about? does that mean my order was cancelled or something?

[mikman]

I also paid with my credit card (ordered it last week Wednesday), and I don't think my card has been charged yet either, but I think my online banking is experiencing technical difficulties with my credit card balance...

[Anonymous]

I ordered my 21" last monday night. &nbsp;Just got it today. &nbsp;It's in great shape. &nbsp;It was packed in a ton of bubble wrap. &nbsp;

It says it was manufactured in April 1998. &nbsp;It still looks like new. &nbsp;Picture quality seems very good. &nbsp;

This thing is freakin' huge.

[miji2]

How much of a difference is there really between the 20" and the 21" Dell monitors? They both are listed as having an identical screen area of

21" D1626HT
Diagonal viewable image size &nbsp;19.8 inches
Display area &nbsp;388 mm (H) x 291 mm (V)

20" D2026T-HS
19.0 inches viewable image size
Display area &nbsp;387 mm (H) x 292 mm (V)

Yet, you take a big hit in terms of space used up by this sucker. 21" (HWD &nbsp;504 mm x 498 mm x 474 mm) vs 20" (HWD 493.5 mm x 472 mm x 501 mm)

So for those who have used/seen both --> is there much noticeable difference between the two monitors in terms of actual usable display area? is 1600x1200 useable on the 21" monitor?

I have bought the 20" Dell monitor for another person, and it looked like a great monitor. It was definitely big tho and not really useable above 1280x1024.

[smash]

I ordered mine last Tuesday, Jan 8. I still haven't received it yet, although I'm anxious for it to arrive. I missed out on this deal the first time around. I live in the Greater Vancouver area, so it might take a bit longer to get here from TO.

I'm crossing my fingers mine doesn't arrive DOA or damaged. I'll keep you people updated...

[mikman]

Mine is coming to Sask and also might take a bit longer to get here. &nbsp;I sure wish I would see my credit card get charged, then I know at least it is on it's way... &nbsp;I'll keep you posted as to when I get it and what kind of shape it's in...

[9394]

My girlfriend ordered the 19inch P990 for me last week (I think Thursday). She picked it up from Purolator today. Cosmetically, there is only a small (1CM long) dent. It''s not too noticable. However, the bottom left side of the screen there is a blue(ish) tinge. I've tried degaussing and setthing the colours...but to no avail. Anyone have the email of that Dell representative on hand?

[macker123]

Try adjusting your landing for that corner. I can almost bet that is your problem. It has been extremely common with these monitors.

[Anonymous]

There is no "landing" option for the 19" Dell.
Blue corners, will remain blue corners. Should
have gotten a 21". I have the same problem .
Also have a cracked plastic. What can you
expect from Dell.

[9394]

There is no landing setting, but there is a CONVERGENCE setting which I think does the same thing. It adjusts the H red/blue colour shadows and the V red/blue colour shadows. I'm having problems adjusting it though. I have pretty much make the blue tingue disappear, but the screen is almost unreadable. Is this the proper way of adjusting it?!

[mikman]

:D It's here!! *I am at work and my wife emailed me telling me it arrived. when I get a chance to play with it I'll let you guys know how it goes. *BTW they still haven't charged my credit card weird.



Edited By mikman on Jan. 16 2002 at 12:46

[Hippak]

Good to hear man.. i hope it works out for ya..
still waiting on mine:)

[efastco]

Hello

I ordered one on Jan 10, so now I wait and hope.
They confirmed my order, but no other info so far to
say it has been shipped.
I will update when or if arrives. :)

[bonedad]

Just wanted to let others waiting know that I ordered one of the P990 19"ers last Thursday and it arrived today. Well packed and in pristine condition, as if it had never been used. No probs with the display, either. I know this makes me one of the "lucky" ones, but thought those in wait might have their worrying eased by seeing yet another positive experience on this deal.

BTW, I am located in Nova Scotia.

In much gratitude for the deals the gang at RFD has turned me onto, especially this one. Hopefully, I can return the favour someday. :)

[Hippak]

quick question to those who recently recieved.. did you guys get any emails saying that your monitors were shipped? or did it just show up?

[scousi]

Mine just showed up - unanounced!

[shabby]

I love my 3rd replacement monitor, the p1110. It is prefectly flat :)

[Hippak]

Shabby is that a 21 inch monitor? did they just send it to you cuz you got pissed of? can you tell me the email address and all that info on who to contact incase i get a DOA? i have a feeling i'm gonna get burnt on this one:)

[mikman]

:) well I have had a chance to play around with it a bit and gues what it is one sweet monitor, there are only minor scuffs/scratches on the casing. *The picture is very nice tho, freeking HUGE is the word for it! *I only have 2 minor complaints though and probably to be expected with a used monitor:
1) the color seems a bit 'washed out' looking. I got the contrast cranked but it doesn't make a whole lot of difference, maybe I need to tweak the color settings more... I saw a Dvd with some color adjustment stuff one time I'll have to see if I can find that to adjust the settings of my monitor more precisely.
2)It also seems a bit blurry or ghosted maybe. *could be the cheap vga cable they sent, or maybe the crappy video signal my asus v6600 puts out, not sure.. gonna try another cable, maybe get one of the vga-bnc ones. *I played with the convergence and that seemed to fix it somewhat. but still could be better. *

Does anyone know where to get a manual for this thing to figure out what all the settings do, and what does the indented button on the front far left do? I don't want to push it :-)

Anyway I can't complain it's a huge monitor, nice picture, for only $299 (well still free at this point they haven't charged my credit card yet haha)

[ZenOps]

Ok, some *good* general settings.

Pressing the indented button will reset the monitor settings back to default for all resolutions. &nbsp;Its usually a good idea when you first get the monitor to press it, if just to get the default zoom level.

Get to a good refresh rate, say 85hz at 1280x1024. Download powerstrip if you are running WinXP/2000 and the monitor is stuck at 60hz www.entechtaiwan.com

Stretch out the and shift the screen until it fills out the maximum area of the monitor.

For 21"ers - If color is bad in one corner, adjust the landing for that corner, cycle back and forth between 0 and 100 and find the sweet spot.

If color is shifting red to blue left to right or up and down, adjust the vertical and/or horizontal convergence.

For color: good settings are about 95-100 for RGB Gain. &nbsp;For RGB Bias, anwhere between about 50-75 is usually ok. &nbsp;You do not want to go too high, or else it will start to washout.

Contrast between 95-100, brightness to your liking. &nbsp;Personally I set brightness about 50-70, if you go to high it will start to washout.

I hope this helps peeps get a really nice crisp picture, adjusting Trinitrons can be a bit daunting at first, but its worth it.

[mikman]

ok after a reset, then a bit of tweaking I have this monitor looking really nice... I am sooo happy with it. I absolutely love it, I just wish it would tilt down further, my desk is kinda weird so the monitor seems really high like I am looking up at it... I boosted a thin book under the back and that seemed to help it some. &nbsp;Anyway good luck to the rest, and hope you get a great monitor like me :)

[smash]

Hey mikman,

I got my 21" badboy today as well. Like you as well, my monitor has some problems. For instance there is ghosting and it is a bit blurry. I tried a manual deguaze several times to no avail. I tried different colour setting/resolutions, still no go. I hooked up this monitor to another system just to see if I got the same results. Unfortunately, I did. I'm using an Asus GeForce II MX 200 video adapter.

I wonder if this problem (ghosting, blurriness) is fairly common for these Dell monitors? Anybody who bought one recently know?

I'm thinking of returning this thing. Suggestions anyone?

[mikman]

After resetting the monitor I then set the resolution to 1280X1024 at 85Hz. I doesn't look so washed out anymore. Then to get rid of the blurry look, I opened up a black screen with lots of small purple colored text and thin lines (horizontal and vertiacl). Then to get rid of the blurryness I messed with the convergence (under the screen option in the OSD) by cranking it far one way or the other you can see the text/lines get blurry-sharp. *After I was finished each of the 4 convergence settings is between 40-50. *It's great now nice and sharp, I have no complaints whatsoever. *smash try doing this I hope it helps...



Edited By mikman on Jan. 17 2002 at 12:52

[efastco]

Hello

My monitor came today the 17th ordered on the 10th.
It came face down in the box with 2 layers of bubble
wrap under it.
It had about 8 layers on the top where the handles are.
Hmmmmm &nbsp;.....smart packers

It has heavy damage to the top left corner of the face plate
I plugged it in anyway to see if the monitor worked.
It works wonderful, to bad they can't pack.
This could have been great.
I would even take a new face plate and repair it myself
but I don't know if I would find such a thing, or
if Dell would help so I don't have to return it.
I guess I will have to find out how to send it back.

It's really to bad, I like it.


:(

[efastco]

Hello

Info on the monitor I got today, it is a Dell Ultrascan 1600HS
Series Model : D1626HT
Ser: 2737360
Feb 1998

I see some people said they got year 2000 models.

[macker123]

I received my p1110 two days ago after an aweful ordeal.

1. Shipped a 14inch monitor instead of 21 inch 1626HT...duh

2. Shipped 21 inch 1626HT worked for about one week...died.

3. Shipped 21 inch P1110..I think it was Purolator's fault as the box looked as though it was dropped, kicked and then thrown around the room. It was shreds.

4. Received P1110 fully working, box perfect condition, monitor brand new...everything good. Manufactured March 2000. The only thing was I emailed and I asked him after much work to ship another method besides Purolator. He assured me that it would be shipped another courier. To my surprise the Purolator guy shows up at my door again.....hmmm.

Well I guess he didn't listen.

Anyways I finally have what seems to be a brand new P1110 that is perfectly flat, vertically and horizontally. It is awesome. Soooooo easy on the eyes.

[FuNPoLiCe001]

mmm...i want one of those P1110's

why dont they put them up for sale :(

[Hippak]

did you get a p1110 &nbsp;becuase you complaineD? can you give me the email for dell it would be greatly appreciated.. i have a feeling when they send mine its going to have problems:)
thanks alot..
and any tips on how to get the p1110 sent would be great too:)

[mhiscott]

Heh, I had the same thing happen, 2nd P1110 came today (Different courier sais Gordon) yet it was purolator as before. &nbsp;The box was in shreds and the bottom of the box was soaking........ &nbsp;Anyways, it is cracked and broken. &nbsp;I am gonna try for a 5th display. &nbsp;The 3rd display I got which was the P1110 was in alright shape although it wobbles and the colour is off. &nbsp;If I don't get a good one soon, I'll just get it repaired.
-Mike

[9394]

I received an email from Gordon today saying I could pick up a replacement monitor once they had one ready. Let's see how long that takes. :)

[ThingyNess]

On a positive note, I received my 19" P990 today. &nbsp;The order was shipped on January 11 (I placed it on the 7th), and it arrived today on the 17th, so it was only 10 days from the day I placed my order to the time it arrived here in Vancouver, BC. &nbsp;Not bad at all.

Mine came in a gigantic box full of enough bubble wrap to last a lifetime, just like everyone else - however, my box looked brand new - one of the very few boxes of any size that I've ever had couriered to me that arrived in perfect condition.

I'm VERY pleased with my P990 - cosmetically it looks absolutely brand new - no stickers, no sticker goop left over, no cracks, no scratches, not a single cosmetic flaw anywhere. &nbsp;Mine is relatively new too, as it was made the 24th week of 1999 according to the Monitor's DDC information.

As for the picture quality, I couldn't be happier! &nbsp;It's absolutely razor sharp with no flaws at all. &nbsp;It did have some minor magnetic distortion in the bottom left corner when I first turned it on, but 3 degauss cycles took care of that without a problem, and right now, it's immaculate. &nbsp;I'm very pleased with my transaction from DFS - it was $275 well worth spent.

On a little side note, am I the only one finding it difficult to adjust to the higher levels of moire on a trinitron as opposed to a shadow mask monitor? &nbsp;It does have a moire reduction setting, but it seems to accomplish that simply by making the monitor slightly out of focus - the more moire reduction applied, the less focused the image is. &nbsp;Oh well - this is easily the most spectacular looking $199 monitor I've ever seen - so I'll be happy to live with a little more moire. :)

- Thingy

[efastco]

Hello

Can someone give the info on who you contact for returns
and where is it that you can pick up a replacement.
I didn't even get a packing slip in my box, and no
information at all on how to return it, or who to contact.

[Gish]

I think i'll add my sorta good story to this.
I ordered one of the 21" on December 28 came to me via Purloator Jan3. Way faster then I thought it would come.
Giant box with an absolute ton of bubble wrap. but unfortunatly it had been dropped once by someone along the line.
The bottom front right of the monitor was basically taken off. &nbsp;I was disappointed. &nbsp;but the monitor worked perfectly and it worked quite well. &nbsp;I decided to not ship it back since it was just fine. &nbsp;Overall was pretty pleased with the monitor not quite as crisp as the samsung I was using but its pretty good and well it's huge. I enjoy gaming on it. It dwarfs my 17 that sits beside it now

[anounymouse]

I posted this before in the old huge thread.. for all you people that want to set your monitors correctly, this is a good program that has lots of test screens and an informative help that will tell you exactly what you are adjusting,etc
www.nokia.com.pl/monitory/ntest.exe (http://www.nokia.com.pl/monitory/ntest.exe)



Edited By anounymouse on Jan. 18 2002 at 20:59

[scousi]

I think we shoudn't expect a perfect monitor for this price. But I do feel that Dell should mention "with slight imperfections" on their web site. But they are giving a 6 month waranty with it and they seem to honor it very well.

My monitor actually has a "burnt in" image of the "no input signal" message. It took me a few days to notice but now that I know its there , I find it annoying. I guess I will return it for an exchange.

[mikman]

True enough, some people are getting better monitors than others. &nbsp;I think mine is just about perfect, &nbsp;although I am going from a 10 year old analog 17" monitor that was just about on it's last legs (blurry and would blink off and on if you farted next to it). &nbsp;This monitor is a dream come true. I found that 1280X960 is the sweet spot. &nbsp;I can run it in 1600X1200 and it is sharp enough, but everything is just too small at that resolution. &nbsp;so much desktop space! &nbsp;I hope in the end you guys all get a monitor as good as this one.

[scousi]

Besides the phosphor problem, I find that my monitor is excellent. You do have to tweak it with the OSD menu in the advanced options to get a good picture. I wonder how many people actually tried ajusting it before proclaming that they had a "bad minitor". If I were Dell, I would provide a manual on adjusting the monitors. I bet they would save themselves a lot of returns.

OT: Did anyone get the automatic screen adjustment to work? When I press mine, it screws up the settings for all my resolutions and I have to manually start over again. I'll have to train my kids not to press that button!

[ZenOps]

Ok, this will help with setting convergence right...

http://www.mitsubishi-electric.com.au/file...attern_1280.jpg (http://www.mitsubishi-electric.com.au/files/tft/Test_Pattern_1280.jpg)

You will actually see when the horizontal and vertical are set near perfect.. the blue crosshairs in each corner will match up with the red circles when you've got her aligned properly. *If in doubt, stay closer to a value of 50.

This one below is really good for getting rid any moire pattern.

http://www.displaymate.com/patterns.html



Edited By ZenOps on Jan. 19 2002 at 02:55

[smash]

ZenOps thanks for your help &nbsp;:)

My 21" monitor has a "layered ghost" effect, meaning that in Windows, icons are seemed to be layered on top of each other. ie. the word "that" would be seen as "that at at" with the "at's" in transparency beside the original that. I had this problem with a very old 14" monitor. I tried everything in the OSD, with no luck. Besides that annoyance, the picture is fine. Dvd's look great on this thing! However, that alone won't justify this problem.

I too never received a packing slip/invoice with my system. I just received email confirmation with my order, that's it. In fact, I didn't even recieve a monitor cable. I had to buy one from Staples.

I'm sure I can get my monitor fixed in town. Does anyone know if the Dell warranty covers this? Or do I have to send this back to Toronto? I really don't want to for the chance I might get a even worser monitor &nbsp;:0

Could someone post the contact info for returning these monitors. Any info would be great people. Thanks.

[ZenOps]

I didn't recieve an invoice either. &nbsp;I think they mention at DFS that you can just print up the email confirmation and use that as an invoice.

Gordon_Wilson@dell.com seems to be the man to email.

I just sent the defective monitors back to Solectron via "bill to reciever" Purolator (don't use www.purolator.ca, just get the old fashioned slip and fill it out manually, its way easier) &nbsp;I ordered enough of them that when one came without a SVGA cable like you, I just took one from a defective one going back.

Just a thought, the GF MX type boards can be fuzzy at high resolutions.

[mikman]

BTW if anyone is looking for the SVGA-BNC cable for this monitor I couldn't find one locally anywhere, and half the sales people didn't know what the heck I was talking about (and they call themselves computer sales people) *anyway I found one (6 ft) for $29.99 at compusmarts website. After taxes and everything it's not a super great deal, but it was all I could find. someone posted one for $39.99 in one of the other threads, but I think this was the better deal.

6 ft SVGA-BNC cable (http://www.compusmart.com/product.asp?CatalogID=160&StyleID=054899&ProductSearchString=bnc)

They also have a 15 ft version for $44.99

15 ft SVGA-BNC cable (http://www.compusmart.com/product.asp?CatalogID=160&StyleID=054228&ProductSearchString=bnc)



Edited By mikman on Jan. 19 2002 at 23:49

[FuNPoLiCe001]

u should've seen the looks i got from people when i asked about a DVI to VGA adapter...

:)

[scousi]

BTW if anyone is looking for the SVGA-BNC cable for this monitor I couldn't find one locally anywhere, and half the sales people didn't know what the heck I was talking about (and they call themselves computer sales people) *anyway I found one (6 ft) for $29.99 at compusmarts website. After taxes and everything it's not a super great deal, but it was all I could find. someone posted one for $39.99 in one of the other threads, but I think this was the better deal.

6 ft SVGA-BNC cable (http://www.compusmart.com/product.asp?CatalogID=160&StyleID=054899&ProductSearchString=bnc)

They also have a 15 ft version for $44.99

15 ft SVGA-BNC cable (http://www.compusmart.com/product.asp?CatalogID=160&StyleID=054228&ProductSearchString=bnc)
I don't think it makes a difference to use a BNC cable unless your video card has bnc output. But if you do see a difference between the 2, please let us know. I was thinking about doing the same thing but someone I know in the graphics indistry told me it would be a waste of money.

[smash]

Anyone using the bnc cable for their 21" monitor, please let us know if there is any quality difference.

[blainehamilton]

Order from these guys in the US:

http://www.cableclub.com/

I've ordered plenty of cables from them and it works out way cheaper if you need several cables.


Name: IBM Super VGA Monitor Cable (HD 15 Male to 5 BNC)

Description:
Application: Computer VGA Card to High Resolution Monitor Cables.
Connector: D-SUB High Density 15pin Male to 5 BNC
Cable: Coaxial R.G.B. Double Shielded (braid and foil) to meet
UL 2919 5 Coaxial Low Voltage Computer Cables.
With Ferrete Core &nbsp;


2060I-6 1.3 lb / 6 ft / &nbsp;Beige &nbsp;$7.00



Even with tax, duty and shipping it's still cheaper that buying local.

[shabby]

I tried a bnc cable with my dell trinitron, didnt help one bit. It actually looked a bit worse, 30 bucks wasted.

[ZenOps]

Its worth noting that BNC cables are very fragile compared to standard VGA cables. &nbsp;If you end up damaging the core, one of the colors (RGB) will end up on the blink, or you screen will start to swim if you damage the (HV).

There is no noticable difference at lower resolutions, and it makes a small difference at 1280+

BNC lets you go farther than VGA (up to 25 feet), but shorter cable is always better, a 25 foot BNC will look worse than a 6 foot VGA.

[mikman]

Well when it gets here I will let you guys know what it looks like, and if there is any difference... BTW what resolution are all you guys running your 1626HT's in comfortably? *I'm running in 1280X960 seems perfect for me. *I tried 1280X1024 and things seem out of proportion, flat kinda, not a true square, more rectangular. *Although Otherwise fully useable too.



Edited By mikman on Jan. 20 2002 at 21:37

[Hippak]

Just picked up my monitor from puralator today.. and it is amazinG! no dents.. no scratches no nothing.. and the color is perfect.. this bad boy is huge..
:)
now i just gotta do the setting that were listed on here..
thanks for all the help:)!

[anounymouse]

Well when it gets here I will let you guys know what it looks like, and if there is any difference... BTW what resolution are all you guys running your 1626HT's in comfortably? *I'm running in 1280X960 seems perfect for me. *I tried 1280X1024 and things seem out of proportion, flat kinda, not a true square, more rectangular. *Although Otherwise fully useable too.
fwiw, 1280x960 is a 4:3 ratio just like all the other standard/popular resolutions (640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1600x1200)

I have no idea why 1280x1024 (5:4 ratio) is more popular than 1280x960 though.. ???

[Anonymous]

Ok, I bought one of these 21"ers. &nbsp;Came fast, packed well, no dings--$380 altogether. &nbsp;But, it looks really bad! &nbsp;It doesn't actually show white--more like off white or beige--and it seems really dim. &nbsp;I have a 17" Dell Trinitron that I bought new about 3 years ago, which looks much, much better. &nbsp;Maybe they'll exchange it? &nbsp;As cheap as it was I still feel like I got taken for a bit of a ride. ???

[str8jkt]

These are back in stock on the webpage.. &nbsp;Get in quick.. Only 8 left.

[boos]

Finally I received my 3rd P990. They shipped it with a company named "cw Henderson". The monitor works well but there is still a little blurry at the bottom right conner. Now I need to ship the first two back to them. I called Purolator for a pickup and they asked for the way bill number of Solectron. Does anyone what the number is? I am afraid that I couldn't get the number from Solecron before the pickup guy shows up at my door tomorrow morning.

[Hippak]

quick question.. i might wanna ship my monitor back cuz its a bit blurry.. but i need a monitor for a few days..
anyway.. &nbsp;does anyone know if they send a monitor first or do you send back the one that doesn't work first?

[boos]

quick question.. i might wanna ship my monitor back cuz its a bit blurry.. but i need a monitor for a few days.. &nbsp;
anyway.. &nbsp;does anyone know if they send a monitor first or do you send back the one that doesn't work first?
I kept the two bad ones until they finally sent me a good one.

[mikman]

well I got my vga-bnc cable today, but guess what? &nbsp;I have no clue as to which bnc connector goes to what on the monitor :) &nbsp;got a red-green-blue-black-grey cables and on the back of the monitor its R-G-B-HD-VD. I have a pretty good idea it's &reg;ed (G)reen (B)lue but black (VD) and grey(HD)? &nbsp;any ideas? I would hate to fry something connecting it wrong.

Thanks

[ZenOps]

Found the manual. &nbsp;Its in PDF format, and sony didn't bother to clean it up, some minor differences too, but its online here under GDM500PS:

http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support...._1.html (http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/displays/legacy/GDM-1245XX_Series_1.html)

red green blue grey black.

[mikman]

Ok I found a site, the grey is HD (horizontal) and the black is VD (vertical) and I do believe that the picture is slightly sharper I run in 1280X960, but probably not enough to justify the $30.00 cable *I tried 1600X1200 and it appears MUCH clearer. *but realistically who runs at that res for day to day operations... :) *anyway I don't think I threw my $$ away...

ps thanks zenops we must have posted almost at the same time.. :)



Edited By mikman on Jan. 23 2002 at 19:40

[Hippak]

Hey you guys.. i just had another quick question:) when i set my resolution to 1600X1200 i get this white distortion at one side of the monitor.. does this mean that my monitor is messed up or is that just my vid card..
my vid card is a ATI 32 Rage or something like that.. yeah i know ATI sucks and all that.. hehe

[scousi]

I had problems with the colors myself but it turned out that it was caused by my 50W Energy speakers that were sitting right beside my monitor! LOL!

Not to bright Hey?

[Anonymous]

i think this deal is FINALLY dead.


no more sold at dfsdirect.ca!!!

[Hippak]

my monitor works until i set it up to 1600/1200.. then it gets all static.. do you guys think that the monitor is messed up?
i emailed dfs and they said they can send me a new one or give me a credit.. i wonder what the credit would be for?:)

[mikman]

my monitor works until i set it up to 1600/1200.. then it gets all static.. do you guys think that the monitor is messed up?
i emailed dfs and they said they can send me a new one or give me a credit.. i wonder what the credit would be for?:)
whats the refresh rate that your card is putting out at that resolution? &nbsp;might be beyond or below what the monitor can handle...

[Hippak]

I'm putting out 85 hz.. is that over?
right now i'm set to 1200/1024 and if i have 75 hz the whole thing flashing..
but if i have 85 hz.. everything is pretty much normal

[efastco]

Hello

You can see the refresh rates here.

Dell D1626HT (http://docs.us.dell.com/docs/monitors/55347/specs.htm)

[rei]

Ordered on the 15th. Got mine 2 days ago. Pixel f-ing perfect. I love this monitor.

[rei]

hey zenops, the order is actually:

red green blue back gray

:)

[synaptech]

There's a few 17" and 19" there now...

[Hippak]

I just got a replacement for my monitor a few days ago..
they sent me a P1110 21 inch flat screen:)
now my 384 bucks was well worth it:)
i'm so happy:)

[richnj]

[deleted...advertising is not allowed...and this is a Canadian site anyway!]

[coolpc]

i have a few good 21's, tested, am moving, $150+shipping or pick up in trenton,nj rich 609-587-7001
on ur first post u are selling stuff, nice....
welcome to RFD

[faibs]

on ur first post u are selling stuff, nice....
welcome to RFD
lol

[Haz]

on ur first post u are selling stuff, nice....
welcome to RFDOn a 3 year old thread at that. :lol: