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astrix
May 28th, 2005, 07:45 PM
I got in to: UT, Waterloo and Mac

i'm split between u of t and waterloo

[UofT] - Electrical Engineering
it's close to home
it's in downtown toronto
highly respected school
PEY

[Waterloo] - Electrical Engineering
highly respected school
co-op
very good engineering program

both these schools are very good so i'm torn between them. mac is a good choice as well but i don't really like the general first year system.

anyway any input is appreciated.

astrix
May 28th, 2005, 10:21 PM
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skeletor
May 28th, 2005, 10:53 PM
either way, get ready for an ass kicking.

actuary
May 28th, 2005, 11:06 PM
My personal experience: Studying away from home was more valuable than my education! (ok that might be a bit of an exaggeration.) I left Montreal to study at UofT and it was the best decision I ever made. I met lots of great people, learned to be independent (cooking, cleaning, not pissing off my roommates, etc.), and had a lot of fun you can't have in a "at home with my parents" environment.

I met people at UofT that helped land me my career today. And I found my educational 'love' in my first year - a general studies year (I did everything from poli sci to physics).

Granted, Toronto is a big city that provides tons of career opportunities that Waterloo does not, but as long as you find something you like to do, you will be fine no matter where you go.

I don't know anything about those programs, but I guess either Waterloo or UofT's program will be 'good enough'.

simms
May 28th, 2005, 11:07 PM
You know what really with all these UT Engineering threads I should just sit down and make a new thread.

ECE... you're in for it. At UT you almost have the same curric as the Eng Scis. I don't know how much time you'll have for fun, but UT has the clubs and the atmosphere, the bars and the people (not to mention the girls).

Since it's close to home you can still take on a job, SAVE MONEY by living at home (although first year i recommend you live at rez!!) and you can use it towards other stuff (from cars, to booze, to girlfriends, to tuition to books). I take on a part time job and I'm in engineering..

As for the programs they're both really good. That's up to you.

simms
May 28th, 2005, 11:09 PM
My personal experience: Studying away from home was more valuable than my education! (ok that might be a bit of an exaggeration.) I left Montreal to study at UofT and it was the best decision I ever made. I met lots of great people, learned to be independent (cooking, cleaning, not pissing off my roommates, etc.), and had a lot of fun you can't have in a "at home with my parents" environment.

I met people at UofT that helped land me my career today. And I found my educational 'love' in my first year - a general studies year (I did everything from poli sci to physics).

Granted, Toronto is a big city that provides tons of career opportunities that Waterloo does not, but as long as you find something you like to do, you will be fine no matter where you go.

I don't know anything about those programs, but I guess either Waterloo or UofT's program will be 'good enough'.

Well said. I agree with everything said here. My advice is that you go to UofT, but you INSIST that your parents let you stay at UT rez for first year.

Write down New College as your first choice. Don't make the same mistake I did.

astrix
May 28th, 2005, 11:53 PM
thanks for input, i am most likely staying on rez first year anyway, you suggest new college?

i haven't been to visit the campus yet, which ones are the best?

astrix
May 29th, 2005, 11:25 AM
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nerdonsite
May 29th, 2005, 11:33 AM
Im also in the same boat. i got into UofT downtown for Human bio, UTM for molecular bio, and Mac for life science. right now im thinking of either UofT downtown or Mac, but will probebly be going to UofT (New college :) ) if anyone has any advice/opinions on going to either Mac of UofT for science, it will be appreciated.

btw, sorry for hijacking ur thread, but i didn't want to make another university thread.

calaban
May 29th, 2005, 02:54 PM
A big thing with u of T is that it is a pretty demanding school. Not a lot of real bird courses, etc. But it is an excellent school, at least I think so.

If you wanna be in a rez with a good meal plan, go to New College. If you want an apartment style, Woodsworth's opened just last summer and is really nice. Innis and Vic also have apartment style.

As for studying science, the one thing I would recommend is that you take a first year seminar in first year to lighten your load.If you take a humanity or social science one, you will also hit two birds with one stone by getting a distribution credit.

nerdonsite
May 29th, 2005, 02:57 PM
A big thing with u of T is that it is a pretty demanding school. Not a lot of real bird courses, etc. But it is an excellent school, at least I think so.

If you wanna be in a rez with a good meal plan, go to New College. If you want an apartment style, Woodsworth's opened just last summer and is really nice. Innis and Vic also have apartment style.

As for studying science, the one thing I would recommend is that you take a first year seminar in first year to lighten your load.If you take a humanity or social science one, you will also hit two birds with one stone by getting a distribution credit.

yea i am planning on taking a seminar (probebly something from humanities) because, as u said, it'll lighten the work load and earn me a distribution credit. what do u mean by UofT not having "a lot of real bird courses"?

astrix
Jun 6th, 2005, 03:27 PM
^^

bigdaddyyc
Jun 6th, 2005, 07:19 PM
I've talked to many UW engineering students and they are mostly out of debt by year 3. A guy from Chem E was out of debt by his 2nd work term cause he returned to the co-op placement he did his first term and recieved a substantial raise :) .

I've researched this up and down and UW is a better choice for me. UofT has PEY but it would suck if you dont like the co-op job you get. And your only exposed to one company... not as many contacts as 6. For UW you can return to your co-op placement up to 8 months if you really like it (2 work terms), but the students tell me they have seen ppl go 3 work terms... universities try to be strict but in the end they're pretty leanient(sp?) they say. You should've went to UW day... a bunch of nerds but a few cool ppl (good thing they were in Chem E).

simms
Jun 6th, 2005, 09:40 PM
I've talked to many UW engineering students and they are mostly out of debt by year 3. A guy from Chem E was out of debt by his 2nd work term cause he returned to the co-op placement he did his first term and recieved a substantial raise :) .


I'm in year 3 and I'm not in debt either, and I'm in UT ChemE.




I've researched this up and down and UW is a better choice for me. UofT has PEY but it would suck if you dont like the co-op job you get. And your only exposed to one company... not as many contacts as 6. For UW you can return to your co-op placement up to 8 months if you really like it (2 work terms), but the students tell me they have seen ppl go 3 work terms... universities try to be strict but in the end they're pretty leanient(sp?) they say. You should've went to UW day... a bunch of nerds but a few cool ppl (good thing they were in Chem E).

I won't even start with this one because everyone has their own opinions. But, UT lets you work during the summers, and let me just say that I just finished 2 years so far, and I've worked jobs in Vancouver for an engineering firm and for the University of Toronto.

That's already TWO coop jobs, plus 16 months of PEY if I wanted. add on a 3rd and 4th summer and you have 5 Co-op terms, including PEY which is a full year to actually get to know the people and work on LONG TERM projects where you can play a real role instead of rushing a role for 4 months (and I've worked 4 months jobs too).

So you get the best of both worlds with UT. Granted, you have to be talented to get work, but that applies to both UT and UW.


yea i am planning on taking a seminar (probebly something from humanities) because, as u said, it'll lighten the work load and earn me a distribution credit. what do u mean by UofT not having "a lot of real bird courses"?

He means that there aren't a lot of easy courses where you don't go to class and still get a good mark, that is... the courses all require some amount of work and discipline to get the marks you want.

simms
Jun 6th, 2005, 09:51 PM
And not to be hypocritical or anything, but I suggest UW. Actually I suggest UW for any engineering other than chemical...