View Full Version : How long until Live8 tix hit BST Forum?
danfromwaterloo
Jun 23rd, 2005, 10:16 AM
You think people on here are going to try and sell Live8 tickets?
Cruel_Angel
Jun 23rd, 2005, 10:20 AM
well, the ones on ebay got ripped down cause ebay felt that free tickets for charity sold on ebay wouldn't look good.. Would it be fair to sell em here?
danfromwaterloo
Jun 23rd, 2005, 10:23 AM
I didn't ask if they should be sold...I'm asking WHEN they will start to be sold, cause frankly there's some ethically sketchy characters on here...
bluetroll
Jun 23rd, 2005, 10:41 AM
if they DO.... they're gonna get RIPPED for doign that.... remember when that dude tried to sell Coldplay tickets on the BST?
sumfunny
Jun 23rd, 2005, 10:49 AM
not with the new no threadcrapping policy
15-20_God
Jun 23rd, 2005, 10:52 AM
isn't it against the rules since its considered 'scalping' and these tickets are free?
Blunt
Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:00 AM
Tickets were gone in 5 minutes on Ticketmaster.
I hope no one shows up to the event... :|
d_jedi
Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:28 AM
Tickets were gone in 5 minutes on Ticketmaster.
I hope no one shows up to the event... :|
So much interest, and they only let 38000 people attend. They're really dropping the ball on this. Do they think anyone who didn't get a ticket will give a rats ass about Africa (if they don't already)?
Fcuking stupid, IMO.
d_jedi
Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:29 AM
well, the ones on ebay got ripped down cause ebay felt that free tickets for charity sold on ebay wouldn't look good.. Would it be fair to sell em here?
Well, you can always do it the e-bay way.. give the tickets away for free, but charge a $40 "shipping and handling fee" or something..
danfromwaterloo
Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:30 AM
I got tickets, but I'm ticked off about these artists who bellyache about support for Africa but don't donate anything themselves.
Like I've read on the internet, why doesn't bono do a world tour and give all proceeds to charity? Seriously, work for free! He's already worth numerous millions of dollars. Would you pay 100 to go see bono if you knew 80 bucks of it were going to charity? I might.
Blunt
Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:48 AM
The Barrie line up is pathetic...
compare it to the other cities.
Another Canadian embarresment. :(
Webslinger
Jun 23rd, 2005, 12:13 PM
Like I've read on the internet, why doesn't bono do a world tour and give all proceeds to charity? Seriously, work for free! He's already worth numerous millions of dollars. Would you pay 100 to go see bono if you knew 80 bucks of it were going to charity? I might.
Bono did tour the U.S. for free--for a cause:
http://www.worldvision.org/worldvision/comms.nsf/stable/heart_day1
http://www.worldvision.org/8525646C00581CFF/0/3E1FDAA0D269C51388256C840066ECC8?Open
http://web1.worldvision.org/8525646C00581CFF/0/871E9A8290BD5E1F88256C860081A1A9?Open
http://web1.worldvision.org/8525646C00581CFF/0/F608E9A1E6ADCECA88256C840066EEB1?Open
http://web1.worldvision.org/8525646C00581CFF/0/94515DAAF09D556488256C840066EF11?Open
http://web1.worldvision.org/8525646C00581CFF/0/4215A7B97E501A2D88256C840066EF72?Open
And even when he was just talking, people paid $75 U.S. just to hear the man speak in Portland for the World Affairs Council of Oregon’s 2004-2005 International Speaker Series.:
http://u2log.com/archive/2004/10/bono_tells_portland_audience_to_care_and_get_invol ved.php
Bono spends a huge portion of his free time working for charity causes--more so than any other huge Western pop/rock star I can think of off the top of my head. Also, throwing money blindly at the issue isn't going to solve anything (the original Live Aid proved that), which is partially why Bono is pushing for a clear and transparent process of where the money from aid and debt relief is going. Moreover, what makes you think he hasn't donated large sums of money to various charitable causes already?
Moreover, at least one person has paid $2,000 (U.S. funds) for a scalped U2 Boston ticket that turned out to be fake. And the lower bowl U2 tickets (with the exception of the floor GAs) cost far more than $100 anyway, and all the shows are sold out), so I doubt anyone within the U2 camp cares whether you're willing to pay $100 for a U2 ticket, when thousands of tickets have already been sold for more than that.
Ryan
Jun 23rd, 2005, 12:15 PM
Since the tickets are free, selling them would be scalping, so we will take down any sale.
danfromwaterloo
Jun 23rd, 2005, 12:24 PM
Since the tickets are free, selling them would be scalping, so we will take down any sale.
Sweet, thanks Ryan. What about people who would use them to sweeten stupid sales...ie. buy my pen for $200 and I'll throw in a pair of tickets to live8...?
Freak
Jun 23rd, 2005, 12:29 PM
The Barrie line up is pathetic...
compare it to the other cities.
Another Canadian embarresment. :(
How so? Who would you asked/had as part of the line up? Of course it is going be mostly Canadian bands. I think they have done a pretty good job...although I am not a fan of most of the groups/performers. Let's see who you would pick...maybe I'll create a post for it.
Freak
runamuck
Jun 23rd, 2005, 12:30 PM
Sweet, thanks Ryan. What about people who would use them to sweeten stupid sales...ie. buy my pen for $200 and I'll throw in a pair of tickets to live8...?
trust me..fellow RFD'ers will take care of them n' their threads ;)
Webslinger
Jun 23rd, 2005, 12:31 PM
Do they think anyone who didn't get a ticket will give a rats ass about Africa (if they don't already)?
Fcuking stupid, IMO.
http://www.bloomsbury.com/authors/microsite.asp?id=584§ion=2
"In 2000, he [Bono] joined Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo to present the world's largest petition (24 million signatures) to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, calling for much more debt cancellation for the poorest countries."
So yeah, something tells me that those who will not be attending a Live 8 concert do care (most of my friends care as well, and we won't be going to Barrie).
d_jedi
Jun 23rd, 2005, 12:39 PM
http://www.bloomsbury.com/authors/microsite.asp?id=584§ion=2
"In 2000, he [Bono] joined Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo to present the world's largest petition (24 million signatures) to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, calling for much more debt cancellation for the poorest countries."
So yeah, something tells me that those who will not be attending a Live 8 concert do care (most of my friends care as well, and we won't be going to Barrie).
I qualified that with if they don't already for a reason..
Webslinger
Jun 23rd, 2005, 12:41 PM
I qualified that with if they don't already for a reason..
They may after the telecast. At the very least, Live 8 will point a spotlight on this issue. I guarantee all 24 million people who signed that petition didn't already care about Africa before Bono started doing speech tours in the U.S. and lobbying worldwide.
d_jedi
Jun 23rd, 2005, 12:42 PM
Sweet, thanks Ryan. What about people who would use them to sweeten stupid sales...ie. buy my pen for $200 and I'll throw in a pair of tickets to live8...?
I would assume the policy would be the same as with any other tickets. AFAIK, that would neither be illegal nor against forum rules.. pretty much like "shipping and handling" charges on e-bay..
poppa
Jun 23rd, 2005, 02:17 PM
ever wonder how much Bono has actually contributed with his own dollars?
north77
Jun 23rd, 2005, 02:34 PM
isn't it against the rules since its considered 'scalping' and these tickets are free?
Not when they throw in a CD plus the tickets. Tickets sell at face value but the value of CD is ridiculous. :rolleyes:
Webslinger
Jun 23rd, 2005, 02:52 PM
ever wonder how much Bono has actually contributed with his own dollars?
Not really
I didn't write this. Someone forwarded this in an email to me recently (I'd imagine it's posted somewhere):
"U2’s Main Charities (they have given money and time to, and have promoted the following charities for years. Read the Singles/Albums/Collaborations, Concerts, and Miscellaneous sections for a sample of just a few of the ways that I found in a 30 minute Google search, in which they have supported these and other charities. I’ll only list the major ones.) :
? Amnesty International
? Greenpeace
? War Child
? Jubilee 2000 Campaign (Bono has given his time and money to support this campaign that encourages G8 countries to forgive debt to Africa’s poorest
? Pavarotti & Friends
? DATA (a non-profit organization co-founded by Bono that does NOT ask for individual donations, but instead asks for supporters to write letters to their Congress/Parliament/etc representatives to redirect more money to foreign aid and debt cancellation. The acronym stands for either Debt, AIDS, Trade in Africa OR Democracy, Accountability, Transparency in Africa, meaning only countries who meet a certain criteria for non-corruption and human rights benefit, and preventing money from simply deepening the pockets of dictators in the region. Not only has he given money, obviously, to start the foundation, but he has spent innumerable hours supporting it.)
? African Well Fund (an organization co-founded by Bono which works to build wells for African communities, one at a time.
? Chernobyl Children’s Fund (Bono’s wife, Ali Hewson, has donated the last 10 years of her life to this project for the children of Chernobyl. Part of the program involves bringing underprivileged children to Ireland for a stay, during which their radiation rates drop from 30-50%. She has not only given an irreplaceable amount of time, but also large sums of money to jump-start and maintain the program, and we all know who the breadwinner in that family is. U2 in general have also supported the charity since it’s upstart in the early ‘90’s.)
Singles/Albums/Collaborations:
? Contributors to Across the bridge of hope—victims of Omagh
? If God Will Send His Angels---Temple Street Children’s Hospital
? One single---AIDS charity(more than 1 mil in sales x $8 each---you do the math)
? Sweetest thing single(best-selling single ever, even more than One)—Chernobyl children’s fund
? Miss Sarajevo single---War Child
? Passengers project (collaboration with Brian Eno and Pavarotti)---War Child
? Do They Know It’s Christmas single---Ehtiopian Famine charity
? He actually conceived the idea for and organized the “What’s Going On� cover single collaboration with today’s pop star types, to raise money as well as popular awareness for an AIDS charity, despite the fact that it doesn’t make him look very cool in the rock community. In light of 9/11, part of the proceeds went to a 9/11 United Way fund.
? New Day single (collaboration with Jean Wyclef)---Refugees in Africa and Kosovo, as well as Jean Wyclef fund which provides musical therapy for underprivileged children throughout the world.
? Love Rescue Me single---Smile Jamaica Fund
? 46664 DVD/CD---all proceeds from both went to Nelson Mandela’s AIDS foundation
? Collaborated on Red, Hot, and Blue---proceeds to AIDS charity
Tours/Concerts:
? Live Aid---Ethiopian famine charity
? Performed concerts in support of Net Aid, Self Aid, Comic Relief, War Child, and The Big One (a worldwide peace organization)
? Conspiracy of Hope Tour---Conducted an entire tour to raise money and membership for Amnesty International. Raised over 4 million dollars and tripled their membership.
? All proceeds from concert with Pavarotti---War Child
? Bono/Pavarotti concert in Modena---proceeds go to Iraqi refugees
? Only band to take concert to war-torn Sarajevo, with all three ethnic groups represented in One crowd. All proceeds went to local charities, who were obviously working to relieve the situation there.
? All proceeds from the Dublin leg of the ZOO TV tour in 1993---more than 300,000 pounds---went to a handful of local charities.
? All proceeds from Pennsylvania leg of ZOO TV tour were donated to a handful of local charities.
? Tribute to Heroes to help United Way 9/11 fund
? 46664 Concert in S. Africa---all proceeds go to Nelson Mandela AIDS fund, which, according to Chief Executive of the foundation used to initiate, develop and support practical programs for the prevention, testing, care and support for those infected and affected by HIV/AIDS'
? Tickets for the DC concert during the Elevation tour were auctioned off to the highest bidder, with all proceeds going to Duke Children’s hospital, unless another charity was specified by the fan.
? Stop Sellafield (nuclear facility) Concert---All proceeds from concert and DVD go to Greenpeace
? Played free concert for area in Moravia devastated by floods, and donated unspecified amount to aid programs working in the area.
? Proceeds from Phenoix leg of Elevation tour go to AIDS charity.
Miscellaneous Contributions/Activities:
? In the ‘80’s, Bono and Ali worked for 6 weeks in Ethiopia, as what you would call “common volunteers� (the true heroes of course), helping to teach farmers more efficient methods of farming and educating poor Ethiopians about sexual options.
? Together, Bono and Pavarotti put the funds in to build a cultural centre in Mostar, Bosnia- Herzegovina in 1997. The idea is to use music and therapy to heal children's wounds of war, and to enable Bosnian artists to pursue their work
? When U2 hear that the Irish center for sexually abused women, One in Four, is going under, they send $45,000 to keep it going for another month, vowing to keep it afloat until the government “gets its act together.�
? Hosts art auction and interprets Peter and the Wolf into a CD/book, all totaling almost 400,000 pounds, to go to Irish Hospice foundation, who cared for Bono’s father when he was dying of cancer.
? Donated auction items/funds to Vh1’s Save the Music program
? Auctioned off old car for Ethiopian famine charity
? Stories have circulated for years and years about Bono taking loads of terminally ill fans, putting them up in the Clarence hotel (which he co-owns I believe) for free, tending to their every need, paying for anything and everything, taking them on special tours thru the recording studio and out on the town, hanging out with them. Any fan’s U2 dream. And not just once, but whenever he’s in town, which is pretty often, considering he lives in Dublin. I can’t prove that this is true, because he never released a statement detailing it, but I’ve heard stories about it from fan after fan.
? Along with Bill Gates (the undisputed most generously giving celeb ever), met with the president of and donated funds toward the World Vision foundation, which has also been strongly supported by Oprah, another giving celeb
? Traveled to Africa with Paul O’Neil. This was meant to provide more awareness than actual aid, seeing as they only helped out the specific communities they visited, but it brought attention to the issue.
? Earned meteor award for work for Africa and donated $100,000 reward to Goal and Concern charity, saying, “these are the real heroes.� Did same with proceeds from European voice award. Not sure of amount, but probably in the same area.
? Sent 80,000 Christmas gifts to African children on a cargo plane one year.
? The Edge took part in some benefit which raised over 700,000 euro for three children's charities Chernobyl Children's Project, ISPCC and The Christina Noble Foundation.
? Traveled to Uganda as part of his commitment to the Save the Children’s Fund, and the Ugandan Children’s Charity Fund.
? Donated near 1 million to Oprah’s Underground Railroad, an exhibit/awareness charity which not only honors the history of the aforementioned event in history, but also works to promote and showcase diversity worldwide.
? Played a large role in advocating the Good Friday Peace Accord, played at the gig in Belfast, where he orchestrated the handshake between the two leaders.
? Supported Northern Ireland Fund for Reconciliation.
All of this totals up to millions and millions of dollars throughout the years. For those of you who feel that he should donate his own money, not just proceeds from albums and concerts (I’m sure there are some of you who feel that), please remember this is how he makes his millions in the first place. Of course it is your money that he is donating; all of his money comes from his fans. Likewise, all of your money was “given� to you in exchange for services."
By the way, many celebreties hide their charity contributions from the public. Bono has mentioned in the past he doesn't disclose everything.