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GR8oNE
Jun 23rd, 2005, 07:24 PM
anyone know any (good) sites for salary estimates in north america (besides monster.ca/com and salary.com) -- not necessarily JUST for new grads, but that would help...

Before I left school I looked at some estimates from national association of colleges and employers (NACE), but want some more sources... also to get estimates from their site u need to pay for a membership (yo, i'm unemployed!)

lmk

flito ray
Jun 23rd, 2005, 07:26 PM
depend on your field. some salaries for arts are 28K while some salary for masters of engineering are 70K

depends

GR8oNE
Jun 23rd, 2005, 07:28 PM
depend on your field. some salaries for arts are 28K while some salary for masters of engineering are 70K

depends

heh, i'm not looking for users to post estimates, i'm looking for a site or maybe a job newspaper or magazine? :) (fyi, i'm a new CS grad -- bachelors...)

poppa
Jun 23rd, 2005, 07:55 PM
maybe check www.jobfutures.ca

CodecX81
Jun 23rd, 2005, 07:56 PM
Not sure how accurate it is... I do like jobfutures.ca

I also use this:

http://ca.hotjobs.salary.com/

konfusion666
Jun 23rd, 2005, 08:06 PM
www.dice.com

http://www.roberthalftechnology.com/ --> click "salary guide"

runamuck
Jun 23rd, 2005, 08:12 PM
contact ur school

infact email other schools too..they usually have alumni surveys sent out within 15months to checkup on their grads

konfusion666
Jun 23rd, 2005, 08:15 PM
just keep in mind that you will never be paid enough, that there will always be jerk-offs making more money than you whilst surfing the web all day long, and eventually you'll get laid off on a really bad day and they'll attempt to stiff you on the severance pay by taking advantage of certain loopholes in the law.

this is life in I.T!

Dragonrana
Jun 23rd, 2005, 08:18 PM
Here's a good site about the average pay for people.

http://www.salaryexpert.com/

7jai
Jun 23rd, 2005, 08:25 PM
When u said you were a CS grad, did u mean communications graduate?

It really depends the kinda job you are looking for. A Bachelors of Arts in communication studies or with any subject doesn't get you far, but more or less paves a new way for you to furthur u'r studies to graduate school where you can specialize in something more technical based.

I myself am a communciations 3rd year major. I'm thinking of finishing this degree, and going to college part-time to gain some techincal skills while working in various business jobs in companies. Then after, I was considering futhuring my studies with graduate studies, or maybe applying to law school (since communications is basically enhancing your writing and reading skills).

Anyways I hope that helps. But if you are still looking for salary sites, I think you should more or less think about what YOU really wanna do, instead of trying to find the job that pays the most.

Cheers,

Jetran
Jun 23rd, 2005, 10:10 PM
I'm thinking CS stands for computer science? At least it seems to me to be the more common than comm. studies.

Driftwood
Jun 23rd, 2005, 10:19 PM
The job market is tough, I work with a whole range of semi-recent grads with various degrees (arts, biz, comp sci whatever) and we all get paid in the same range. Unless you're a doctor or you've got some sort of professional designation, don't expect much. Besides, if this is your first job out of school, you should be more concerned with the experience and knowledge you'll gain, the $$$ will come eventually. :)

simms
Jun 23rd, 2005, 10:23 PM
I'm thinking CS stands for computer science? At least it seems to me to be the more common than comm. studies.
QFT

It depends on your degree. Chemical Engineers are paid the highest starting salary with an undergraduate degree.

flito ray
Jun 23rd, 2005, 10:55 PM
I'm thinking CS stands for computer science? At least it seems to me to be the more common than comm. studies.

cs = counterstrike

zeroace
Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:01 PM
QFT

It depends on your degree. Chemical Engineers are paid the highest starting salary with an undergraduate degree.

All about supply and demand. there aren't as many chem engineers compared to the large number of electrical/computer/software engineers out.

UrbanPoet
Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:12 PM
When u said you were a CS grad, did u mean communications graduate?

It really depends the kinda job you are looking for. A Bachelors of Arts in communication studies or with any subject doesn't get you far, but more or less paves a new way for you to furthur u'r studies to graduate school where you can specialize in something more technical based.

I myself am a communciations 3rd year major. I'm thinking of finishing this degree, and going to college part-time to gain some techincal skills while working in various business jobs in companies. Then after, I was considering futhuring my studies with graduate studies, or maybe applying to law school (since communications is basically enhancing your writing and reading skills).

Anyways I hope that helps. But if you are still looking for salary sites, I think you should more or less think about what YOU really wanna do, instead of trying to find the job that pays the most.

Cheers,

Hey, that sounds familar. :lol:

doomy
Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:13 PM
around 38-45k for CS degree. I've been offered a few jobs already in that range, fresh out of school.

simms
Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:14 PM
All about supply and demand. there aren't as many chem engineers compared to the large number of electrical/computer/software engineers out.

I didn't think I needed to justify it, it was more of a point-of-fact comment. But thank you. :)

konfusion666
Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:27 PM
All about supply and demand. there aren't as many chem engineers compared to the large number of electrical/computer/software engineers out.

chem eng degree = ticket into oil industry, which ALWAYS makes more $$$ than I.T, especially now that the tech bubble has burst

Daemar
Jun 23rd, 2005, 11:43 PM
Business here. Will only say over 50k fresh out of school... but i was in the oil & gas industry in alberta.

GR8oNE
Jun 24th, 2005, 02:43 PM
Sorry, I thought "CS" would be clear ;) it's for Computer Science... at UW (University of Waterloo ;))

I'll look into those sites ppl posted... thanks... and the idea of emailing schools is a good one

Thanks everyone

GR8oNE
Jun 24th, 2005, 02:45 PM
around 38-45k for CS degree. I've been offered a few jobs already in that range, fresh out of school.

Really? from some of the sites I've seen and some of my friends I've talked to, that's a lot lower than i expected... most estimates are > 45k, closer to the 50k mark

devious9191
Jun 24th, 2005, 02:58 PM
Really? from some of the sites I've seen and some of my friends I've talked to, that's a lot lower than i expected... most estimates are > 45k, closer to the 50k mark

The thing you need to keep in mind, is that IT is a 'dry' industry. Everyone that was employed in the 90's with degrees and experience that were layed off and have been doing contract work ever since are competing for the same position. So, there's quite a bit more supply than demand in that industry. Unless you're bringing something special to the table that the majority of people in IT don't do (ie. cryptology, security), you're going to be hard pressed to even find a job paying 40k doing straight programming.

konfusion666
Jun 24th, 2005, 02:58 PM
for uw *CS* grad, working in the GTA in a developer-type position... then "greater than 45k, closer to 50k" is certainly reasonable.

but not if you majored in one of the other Maths, or are a CS grad but hates programming so you just want a "sysadmin" type job.

wanted
Jun 24th, 2005, 02:59 PM
www.careercruising.com

Search up a career: Gives good info.
Hope it works.