19"+ Lcd

[wookie]

SAMSUNG 930B BLACK - seems to have backlight issue
SAMSUNG 193P+ SILVER - pricey
VIEWSONIC VX924 - more of a marketing gimmick
LG L1980Q
VIEWSONIC VP191b

I am trying to decide on an LCD and would like some input. I want 19" - 23" at the very largest. I would prefer one that is sold at BBY/FS so that I can see/view it before I purchase and also so that if I decide its not what I want I will be able to return within 2weeks. Any input is greatly appreciated. The above models are ones that I am thinking about currently. Leaning towards 930b as it seems to be the best bang for the buck... Viewsonic is 5ms response time but I dont know much about viewsonic as a brand. Any input would be great!

*EDIT* Must have DVI :)

[goofball]

930B is nice but has a backlight bleeding issue.

Viewsonic VX924 is very nice but dont' believe the 4ms rating in its entirety. Very clean looking monitor though, and nice images.

[J1M]

I don't like viewsonic. I have a personal vendetta against them. It's complicated but they don't have any of my money.

When dealing with 19" or bigger LCDs most of them are not for gaming. The only ones I've seen reviewed that are really considered acceptable are built with LG.Philips SIPS panels. This includes the Dell 19" and the 20" widescreen as well as the HP 23", but not the Dell 24".

The important things to consider when buying an LCD are:
-Panel type
-8bit color
-Low response time
-Dead pixel return policy

[wookie]

I don't like viewsonic. I have a personal vendetta against them. It's complicated but they don't have any of my money.

When dealing with 19" or bigger LCDs most of them are not for gaming. The only ones I've seen reviewed that are really considered acceptable are built with LG.Philips SIPS panels. This includes the Dell 19" and the 20" widescreen as well as the HP 23", but not the Dell 24".

The important things to consider when buying an LCD are:
-Panel type
-8bit color
-Low response time
-Dead pixel return policy


what about sharp or lg panels??

[LegiT]

Sharp makes the best LCD TVs (if I'm not mistaken) so I'm guessing their LCD monitors should be one of the best also. Don't know about LG though. Anyhow, I love my Sony LCD, HS94P, great quality with no dead pixels/backlight leakage. The new models are the HS95P. However, if your budget is limitless, might I suggest the 23" Sony SDM-P234/B.

But, the Viewsonic VP191B seems to be a very good monitor that should be considered.

[alleycat8675309]

I would get a Samsung 913T as it's cheaper than the 193P+.

I like both of these models cause of wide viewing angles of 178/178 degrees.

[Universa| So|dier]

I woud suggest getting the Viewsonic VP191B. It's one of the only ones with a TRUE 8ms response time. The 4ms LCD panels are a marketing gimick when you read the reviews CAREFULLY. ;) Check out this (http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/20050526/index.html) link for the VP191B review.

I've owned a BenQ 20" LCD from Best Buy that was rated for 16ms, but found it to ghost in games. HL2 and BF : DC were a prime example (BF2 wasn't out then). Get something under 12ms or 8ms, like this one. :)

[J1M]

what about sharp or lg panels??
LG.Philips = LG. You will still have to check each model to see if it uses a SIPS panel or an older technology.

Keep in mind there are only a handful of panel manufacturers. For example, the Dell 20" widescreen and the Apple 20" widescreen use the same SIPS panel made by LG.Philips. Apple sticks it in a white housing and charges twice as much, but they are the same monitor except for the backlight and the inputs available.

[ProfessorChaos]

Apple sticks it in a white housing and charges twice as much, but they are the same monitor except for the backlight and the inputs available.

making it not the same monitor....

Similarities
-LG.Philips SIPS panel

Differences
-Backlight
-DSP
-Power Inverter
-Power Brick(Apple), Dell has it inside the monitor
-Housing
-Inputs(Apple has DVI only, firewire, usb2....Dell VGA, DVI, SVideo, Composite...

not to mention Dell's PIP function.

[jEnkinsX]

i like my 930B eventhough i returned it ones coz of backlight leaking..

[J1M]

making it not the same monitor....

Similarities
-LG.Philips SIPS panel

Differences
-Backlight
-DSP
-Power Inverter
-Power Brick(Apple), Dell has it inside the monitor
-Housing
-Inputs(Apple has DVI only, firewire, usb2....Dell VGA, DVI, SVideo, Composite...

not to mention Dell's PIP function.
Was I writing a monitor review? No. Was I pointing out that you should ignore the sticker on the casing when you go shopping for an LCD? Yes.

[Hybrid88]

You can read my experience with the LG FLATRON L1950S

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170606

Actually, I've had it for some time now and I'm fine with it. I don't game with it much so its really no big deal. Its great watching dvds/movies and tv also. Overall a good LCD for the price/value.

I would consider buying another one when the old CRT goes on the other machine.

[Gdog]

Costco has the Princeton 19" LCD (DVI cable included) for $399.

[wookie]

LG.Philips = LG. You will still have to check each model to see if it uses a SIPS panel or an older technology.

Keep in mind there are only a handful of panel manufacturers. For example, the Dell 20" widescreen and the Apple 20" widescreen use the same SIPS panel made by LG.Philips. Apple sticks it in a white housing and charges twice as much, but they are the same monitor except for the backlight and the inputs available.

How about LG L1980Q.... How do I find out if it is using a SIPS panel?

[akosh]

Philips 190S6F seems like a pretty good monitor. They're around $360 and have an 8ms response time, but the problem is that they're analog only.

[mortimusmaximus]

Pick up the issue of maximumpc on the stands now.They have a good comparison of 19" and up lcd panels.

[wookie]

Pick up the issue of maximumpc on the stands now.They have a good comparison of 19" and up lcd panels.

i got it... using it as a comparison but it doesnt compare all models i am interested in.

[mortimusmaximus]

If I had the money the 20" Dell ultrasharp not the widesreen would get my vote and my cash.I don`t know why dell was not repd in the review but the 20" got a Kickass award last time it was reviewed by Max Pc.