FUTURESHOP discount (Brampton) RFD Exclusive [Archive]

D.NGUYEN

Nov 17th, 2005, 11:33 PM

[hi everyone, been away for a while, but now I have time again. So bring on the PMs. Best process if you want an TV, is have a set amount you want to spend, come with a few TVs you want. Give me a PM and we'll set a date to meet and I'll spend all the time with you that you need. So start sending me those PMs again! lol] :lol:

Been trying to do something to give back to RFD. So here it is, nothing big, but I am allowed to give some sort of discount to RFD members at the Brampton futureshop location (Hwy 410/ Bovaird). Now I can't tell you the discount since it will vary for each product. Some will be more significant and some probably not have any since there is too little margin. But big or small it is still a discount. My name is Daniel, you guys probably see me around here often, so PM me products that you want and I"ll try to get back to you about the cost I can get to you at within 24hrs (this is if I work the next day)

Some things that won't get you much or any at all in savings is:
CDs, DVDs, Games, Video Game Hardware, Cellphones iPods and laptops. just to name some, but for other things i might.

RULE: Please refer to a specific product and go to www.futureshop.ca and find the webID number on the product's page. Should be 100xxxxx. Then I will get you the prices. This makes it easier for me to look up the prices at work.

I will NOT answer PMs which do not follow this rule. If you didin't read this post entirely and ask me about a product I mentioned I will NOT reply

impronto

Nov 18th, 2005, 12:28 AM

should this be in "youre fired" thread?

Rehan

Nov 18th, 2005, 09:21 AM

Moved to Hot Deals for now...

yoshi838

Nov 18th, 2005, 09:36 AM

Is this a way to help yourself meet your sales quota? Don't get me wrong, that's totally fine with me as long as you can give us good deals.
Cheers.

Rehan

Nov 18th, 2005, 09:40 AM

Okay, moved back to Off Topic on the advice of a higher up. :)

NDman

Nov 18th, 2005, 09:49 AM

I swear I saw this thread being locked earlier today. Damn, not enough sleep for today.

rayesyn

Nov 18th, 2005, 09:50 AM

awesome :) thanks

akito925

Nov 18th, 2005, 10:08 AM

good discounts on CD's, DVD Medias

Software you get maybe 1-2 dollars off.. but when the software is on sale for the first day it is cheaper then cost price, and cheaper then futureshop employee discounts.

best prices are in T.v's DVD Players hehe very good employee discounts. if your willing to give rfd people employee discounts.

some items that I'd pickd up using my employee discounts

Big Screen T.v
Dvd players too many
Speakers
Logitech Computer speaker that 5.1 $199 one. employee discount is about 129 or 170.. don't remeber..

the most i'd picked up is DVD Media alot of of them! $13 for thoses 50 packs of dvd medias

also a few car decks..

playstation 2 gamepad

deep

Nov 18th, 2005, 10:09 AM

...higher up. :)

Than you??? Come on, now...Moses stopped working here!

D.NGUYEN

Nov 18th, 2005, 10:13 AM

I personally don't have a sales quota (I guess it would be as much as possible?). This is a deal that I negotiated with my managers for RFD members. If you come in, check my updates of when I'll be in to check for you the prices and tell the managers. If im not there, speak to my manager named Cornell. You guys can continue PMing me the stuff you want. Remember that things that are on sale, you won't get much of a deal on.

Sunday Nov 20th I'll be in, so I'll check for your products that day. And probably notify you guys the prices that night.

For large items such as Big screen TVs, better to give me your budget so that I can work around that. Most likely you'll need more than just the TV.

Reminding! Movies, Music, Games, Gaming Systems, Laptops, iPods, Cellphones are usually not discounted or not worth coming to save like a dollar.

Good things to save on is: Accessories

radeonboy

Nov 18th, 2005, 10:34 AM

Cool! I might just pop in.

Big Brother

Nov 18th, 2005, 11:03 AM

I personally dont think this is to benefit the rfder through commission. If people buy big ticket items then yes, but most people will likely to buy small accessories and that doesnt give off commission. or I might be wrong. I'm known to be wrong.

Rehan

Nov 18th, 2005, 11:08 AM

Do the non-commissioned sales staff at Futureshop get anything like a performance bonus based on how much sales they ring up?

siriuskao

Nov 18th, 2005, 11:48 AM

Is this a way to help yourself meet your sales quota? Don't get me wrong, that's totally fine with me as long as you can give us good deals.
Cheers.

good luck selling PSP (product service plan) to RFDers ;) PSP% > sales quota

selling large ticket items without PSP is a sin at FS. :cheesygri so be careful if you push out a large volumn of RFD sale without little or no PSP. You might get in trouble IMO.....(it ruins their performance stats)

lip1978

Nov 18th, 2005, 11:50 AM

Selling PSP & Accessories will always get you a pat on the back from your manager :)

llcooljayce

Nov 18th, 2005, 11:59 AM

Do the non-commissioned sales staff at Futureshop get anything like a performance bonus based on how much sales they ring up?

No Rehan, I have worked at FS for about 4 months now and I have never heard of any bonuses for sales.

There is a Circle of Excellence where they rank you for a number of things like sales, PSP sales, Gross Margin, Accessories. If you rank in the top 10% then you get points that you can use towards the purchase of items like movie passes, etc.

But to answer your question, no direct corelation between sales and bonuses for non-commisison staff.

Also, not sure why the OP is doing this unless he/she is quitting soon. I cannot see any benefit as a product expert discounting items as once you discount, you lose SPIFFs (commissions).

felix

Nov 18th, 2005, 01:07 PM

I swear I saw this thread being locked earlier today. Damn, not enough sleep for today.
It was locked before. But not anymore. :lol:

runamuck

Nov 18th, 2005, 07:01 PM

too far for me to make use but free bump for contributing to the rfd community..

i'll give you a couple unique codes for 90 free photo prints from snapfish.com i saved up from an earlier freebie i got on rfd.. if u're interested, PM me.. (only to OP!) .. it'll come in handy when they have a free shipping promo

cheers~

B40

Nov 18th, 2005, 07:07 PM

Also, not sure why the OP is doing this unless he/she is quitting soon. I cannot see any benefit as a product expert discounting items as once you discount, you lose SPIFFs (commissions).

Maybe he just really wants to help out some fellow RFDers?

steve.m

Nov 18th, 2005, 07:10 PM

Maybe in the future we will all have RFD cards. Flash it to the cashier if they pretend not to know about pricematching. :)

CanadianMike

Nov 18th, 2005, 07:14 PM

Maybe in the future we will all have RFD cards. Flash it to the cashier if they pretend not to know about pricematching. :)
hahaha

"sir! you cant do that!"
"its ok! im an RFD member!" *flashes card*

:rolleyes: :lol:

steve.m

Nov 18th, 2005, 07:17 PM

hahaha

"sir! you cant do that!"
"its ok! im an RFD member!" *flashes card*

:rolleyes: :lol:

or flash the card when you see them hiding stock. "Freeze a@@hole! Put the printer back on the shelf slowly!"

runamuck

Nov 18th, 2005, 07:20 PM

Maybe in the future we will all have RFD cards. Flash it to the cashier if they pretend not to know about pricematching. :)

found this in the comments/sugestions forums ., posted by peterbrowne..

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6448/rfdmember6as.png

Kasakato

Nov 18th, 2005, 07:29 PM

or flash the card when you see them hiding stock. "Freeze a@@hole! Put the printer back on the shelf slowly!"
Its mine! Allll mine.

Kasakato

Nov 18th, 2005, 07:30 PM

found this in the comments/sugestions forums ., posted by peterbrowne..

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6448/rfdmember6as.png
When do they go into print?

steve.m

Nov 18th, 2005, 07:40 PM

that card is funny.
peterbrowne sure had a lot of time on his hands.
too bad the card is useless in the real world.

or maybe we could have a secret society like the stonecutters, identified by the card.

Bordello

Nov 18th, 2005, 08:04 PM

LOL RFD membership cards...too funny...

hyperion

Nov 18th, 2005, 08:10 PM

Any FS/BB employees on RFD from Kitchener/Waterloo?

Anessa

Nov 18th, 2005, 08:14 PM

or flash the card when you see them hiding stock. "Freeze a@@hole! Put the printer back on the shelf slowly!"

:lol: :lol: :lol: that's classic

blizzah

Nov 18th, 2005, 11:16 PM

or maybe we could have a secret society like the stonecutters, identified by the card.

A song too!

computer01

Nov 19th, 2005, 12:29 AM

HAhahahHAAAAA! Guess he had to return his card, eh? (Read the fine print on the card.)

found this in the comments/sugestions forums ., posted by peterbrowne..

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6448/rfdmember6as.png

D.NGUYEN

Nov 19th, 2005, 02:16 AM

Reminder that I won't answer your PMs till Sunday.

MtX

Nov 19th, 2005, 02:17 AM

Reminder that I won't answer your PMs till Sunday.

Why? Gotta ask your supervisor?

D.NGUYEN

Nov 20th, 2005, 08:31 PM

K, I got like a billion PMs, so here's an update. I will try to get the prices to you soon as there are so many to look up. I'll add this thing to the OP that if you PM me, please tell me the specific product since I have no time to find what you need. Also, look on the Futureshop.ca website and find what the product webID # starts with 100xxxxx is so that I can look up prices quickly. I"ll need that from you guys. SO if you guys who did PM me can do that, it would be greatly appreciated.

D.NGUYEN

Nov 27th, 2005, 10:21 PM

Hi, bump, CONGRATZ to Killbillvol1 for being the first to take advantage of the deal.

Jokez Guy

Nov 27th, 2005, 10:42 PM

Hi, bump, CONGRATZ to Killbillvol1 for being the first to take advantage of the deal.

He's a Great guy to deal wtih :lol:

akz

Nov 27th, 2005, 11:29 PM

seriously the guys giving you a deal.. why you all giving him crap? You should all be banned for threadcrapping! Lol Neways seriously... its benifiting you even IF he does earn comission you are the one getting a deal hes just working his job.. how about instead of attacking people, how about you guys try to do something for once?? seriously... the amount of ungrateful people here is overwhelming.. If your getting a deal theres gotta be a catch ohh hes scamming for commission.. seriously please.. I see no problem here, props to the OP and to all you people there just sitting there waiting to hate on people for actually doing soomething shame on you ppl..

D.NGUYEN

Nov 27th, 2005, 11:47 PM

Thank you. So yah killbill got a deal. He wanted a 150$ DVD player, gave him a deal at 129.99 + cable that's $18 at $11 and the tax associated with it.

seriously the guys giving you a deal.. why you all giving him crap? You should all be banned for threadcrapping! Lol Neways seriously... its benifiting you even IF he does earn comission you are the one getting a deal hes just working his job.. how about instead of attacking people, how about you guys try to do something for once?? seriously... the amount of ungrateful people here is overwhelming.. If your getting a deal theres gotta be a catch ohh hes scamming for commission.. seriously please.. I see no problem here, props to the OP and to all you people there just sitting there waiting to hate on people for actually doing soomething shame on you ppl..

AnimeEd

Nov 27th, 2005, 11:51 PM

props to you

killbillvol1

Nov 28th, 2005, 12:16 AM

Bumpity bump - thanks again man.

D.NGUYEN

Dec 1st, 2005, 01:07 AM

crazy PMs!

felix

Dec 1st, 2005, 02:09 AM

Nice, should be moved to hot deals. Can save quite a bit knowing the markups on big ticket items like plasma TV's (my friend saved ~$1000 on his a while back just by negotiating and got free stand, etc). Save even more when combined with 20% discount gift cards. Good deal.

teknoluv

Dec 1st, 2005, 05:41 AM

Yes, I too agree that D.NGUYEN is doing a good job here. As long as we are getting a good deal (that we are NOT able to get elsewhere), he deserves something (commissions or sales quota, etc.) in return.

By the way, it's a pity that the Canon camera I have been looking at JUST DISAPPEARED from Future Shop's website (even searched with brand/model #; was there, not anymore), so now I can't PM D.NGUYEN the WebID. Damn it.

CSR

Dec 1st, 2005, 06:15 AM

Props to you, more people that work at bigbox stores should do this, although it may get em fired..... wouldn't it be funny if you paid w/ gift cards making a staff discount?

D.NGUYEN

Dec 1st, 2005, 09:46 AM

Thanks, umm, just tell me the model number (this is special since you can't find it) and what camara it is. Could be a clearance product so it would be mad discounts.

Yes, I too agree that D.NGUYEN is doing a good job here. As long as we are getting a good deal (that we are NOT able to get elsewhere), he deserves something (commissions or sales quota, etc.) in return.

By the way, it's a pity that the Canon camera I have been looking at JUST DISAPPEARED from Future Shop's website (even searched with brand/model #; was there, not anymore), so now I can't PM D.NGUYEN the WebID. Damn it.

teknoluv

Dec 1st, 2005, 09:52 AM

Thanks, umm, just tell me the model number (this is special since you can't find it) and what camara it is. Could be a clearance product so it would be mad discounts.
Thanks A LOT. PM sent. :)

thelefteyeguy

Dec 1st, 2005, 09:58 AM

D.NGUYEN

Dec 1st, 2005, 10:04 AM

Yes, the giftcards! lol. Anyways, basically the more you buy the more you save. Feel free to bargain with me within reason, NO LOWBALLING lol. For example let say you bought a plasma TV.

42" Plasma: 4000
Up-Converting DVD player (720p/1080i): $250
Wall Mount: 700
Cables: 300 (Monster that is, something that I can't give discounts on/ Monster Contract)
PowerSurge Protector/ Line Conditioner: $220
5.1 Home Theatre Package: $650

+ perhaps Warranty $600 (for plasma it's basically replacement since you can't fix them)

Total Would be: $6120 + 15% tax = $7038 (no extended warranty)

Price I would probably fix it to (varying per product)

$5259 x 1.15 = $6047.85

$7038-$6047.85 = $990.15

with warranty = 390.15 savings.
So you see, savings are pretty big.

Nice, should be moved to hot deals. Can save quite a bit knowing the markups on big ticket items like plasma TV's (my friend saved ~$1000 on his a while back just by negotiating and got free stand, etc). Save even more when combined with 20% discount gift cards. Good deal.

Rehan

Dec 1st, 2005, 10:59 AM

Yes, I too agree that D.NGUYEN is doing a good job here. As long as we are getting a good deal (that we are NOT able to get elsewhere), he deserves something (commissions or sales quota, etc.) in return.
The reason why self-advertising is not allowed on RFD even when it benefits others here is to draw a line so that advertising doesn't get out of hand.

We've allowed D.NGUYEN to continue this thread because he said in PM that he is not getting commissioned and he doesn't care whether or not people purchase through him. So we gave him the benefit of the doubt in this case.

jacker

Dec 1st, 2005, 12:00 PM

First let me say congrats on the hard work here. I too work at a Future Shop in an unnamed location, and I could never see my superiors agreeing to anything like this.

(if you get the warranty I can probably lower the actual cost even lower).

I was already surprised beforehand with all the deals you managed to hook up, but using the PSP to give deals... is usually strictly forbidden. These guys should consider themselves even luckier if your managers are letting you do this.

What dept. do you work in by the way?

lithiumli

Dec 1st, 2005, 12:12 PM

thanks for the post

MtX

Dec 1st, 2005, 04:11 PM

lol I PMed him about some Panasonic phones and digicams but got no replies.. is this guy legit? has anyone actually got anything at discount?

UrbanPoet

Dec 1st, 2005, 04:45 PM

ooo this was a hot deal.

D.NGUYEN

Dec 2nd, 2005, 10:00 AM

Didn't I give message you already? i thought you answered me also.

lol I PMed him about some Panasonic phones and digicams but got no replies.. is this guy legit? has anyone actually got anything at discount? Killbill has already come in and saved 25$ (remembering that even that also can be price matched if it drops below)

D.NGUYEN

Dec 2nd, 2005, 10:05 AM

I work in home theatre, basically I"ll do that department and perhaps some other ones. If you want comp parts (which are usually cheaper still at like CC or something anyways) I'll give you a price and let you get the info from the sales guys that I would recommend there. Half of us make comm half don't. But the comm sucks, cus basically even us lower sales guys would never break the minimum wage. Cus like on a DVD player, we make 1 dollaror that Kosch Divx player where we can make a whopping 0.67 cents whoot! But, lets say you guys come in and I'm not there, speak to my manager in Home Theatre. I'm 17 and just started working there for about 4months. We do this kinda deal thing for special groups, like RFD and the Peel Police.
First let me say congrats on the hard work here. I too work at a Future Shop in an unnamed location, and I could never see my superiors agreeing to anything like this.

I was already surprised beforehand with all the deals you managed to hook up, but using the PSP to give deals... is usually strictly forbidden. These guys should consider themselves even luckier if your managers are letting you do this.

What dept. do you work in by the way?

Neovingian

Dec 2nd, 2005, 08:21 PM

Hey does your FS discount work on items only available on the FS web site?

Also does your discount apply items at the other store that ownz FS?
Y'all know the one with the annoying blue & yellow coulours that public isn't supposed to know about?

D.NGUYEN

Dec 3rd, 2005, 11:37 PM

Well, if you read the title of this thread it does say Futureshop Bramtpon

Hey does your FS discount work on items only available on the FS web site?

Also does your discount apply items at the other store that ownz FS?
Y'all know the one with the annoying blue & yellow coulours that public isn't supposed to know about?

mahjongmaniac

Dec 4th, 2005, 01:26 AM

Well, if you read the title of this thread it does say Futureshop Bramtpon

but what do u mean by "GTA only i guess" ?

:confused:

so there's some "other way" that u can provide RFD members w/ discounts at other locations? :P lol

Neovingian

Dec 4th, 2005, 06:54 PM

Well, if you read the title of this thread it does say Futureshop Bramtpon
I know exactlly what you meant....What I was trying to ask was could you order an item from the FS site & get it shipped to your store so we could pay complete the transaction there @ your brampton store?

D.NGUYEN

Dec 4th, 2005, 11:02 PM

better to just come to the store. anyways congratz to wwtsang for being the 2nd to take advantage of the deal.

felix

Dec 5th, 2005, 01:12 AM

Question...when is it the best time to buy a Plasma tv...during boxing day, after, January or Feb 2006?

when is it the lowest price?

interested in the Panasonic 42" Widescreen Plasma HDTV** (TH42PX500)
webid: 10062344
I'm looking at this same model as well. Seems to be the only current Panasonic model with build in TV tuner and Picture-in-Picture. Too bad it's a FutureShop exclusive. Anyway, I did a quick search and came across this thread ...
http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33317

One of the posts (post #68 (http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/forum/showpost.php?p=292257&postcount=68)) mentions it's $2852.34?
And yes, it's a Canadian forum by the way so that's in Canadian dollars!

D.NGUYEN

Dec 5th, 2005, 01:58 AM

That would basically be impossible, even if you worked at Futureshop you can't get it at that price. I'm sure I could work around the $3699 but not that much since it's reaching the employee pricing.
I'm looking at this same model as well. Seems to be the only current Panasonic model with build in TV tuner and Picture-in-Picture. Too bad it's a FutureShop exclusive. Anyway, I did a quick search and came across this thread ...
http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33317

One of the posts (post #68 (http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/forum/showpost.php?p=292257&postcount=68)) mentions it's $2852.34?
And yes, it's a Canadian forum by the way so that's in Canadian dollars!

D.NGUYEN

Dec 9th, 2005, 10:26 AM

Hello all, Discounts on Big Screen TVs for this season. PM me the one you want. If you can get it lower somewhere else, I'll beat it.

Jon Lai

Dec 9th, 2005, 04:28 PM

Hello all, Discounts on Big Screen TVs for this season. PM me the one you want. If you can get it lower somewhere else, I'll beat it.

How about the Sony KDFE-50A10 and KFE-50A10? Lowest I've seen is $2499/$2299. Do you think you can go $1999 for the KFE model (reg. $2799) or $2299 for the KDFE model (reg. $3199)??

KFE50A10 reg. $2799 (lowest advertised price $2299, Sears)
10069084

KDFE50A10 reg. $3199 (lowest advertised price $2499, FS/BB)
10065062

I probably won't be buying this model, but while you're at it, if you don't mind, please let me know your lowest price for this as well:

KDS-R50XBR1 reg. $4999 (lowest advertised price $4499, Chinese Sony Store "HD")
10067082

~~~

I might be interested in the stands that Futureshop has as well, but I understand the models of stands each store has are different. I've never went to Brampton FS (live in Markham)... do they have a large variety of stands? For a fact, I know that Lawrence and Markham East Futureshop has the most stands of the stores I've went to. Maybe you can help me look for a stand too... do you guys have any stands that have 2 levels, where the bottom level is 8+ inches high? (need it for my 6.5" tall HK-235 as well as 1.5"+ of breathing space).

Thanks.

ps: btw, how much are you making off of us from the real discounts that you get as an employee?

D.NGUYEN

Dec 9th, 2005, 11:30 PM

Hey, I've noticed that because of this Sears thing, I"ve got tons of questions, so I'll post the price tommorow here along with a PM to you guys. We have stands with every big screen on display basically. I'll see what I can do. Sometimes it comes pretty darn close to employee discounts.
How about the Sony KDFE-50A10 and KFE-50A10? Lowest I've seen is $2499/$2299. Do you think you can go $1999 for the KFE model (reg. $2799) or $2299 for the KDFE model (reg. $3199)??

KFE50A10 reg. $2799 (lowest advertised price $2299, Sears)
10069084

KDFE50A10 reg. $3199 (lowest advertised price $2499, FS/BB)
10065062

I probably won't be buying this model, but while you're at it, if you don't mind, please let me know your lowest price for this as well:

KDS-R50XBR1 reg. $4999 (lowest advertised price $4499, Chinese Sony Store "HD")
10067082

~~~

I might be interested in the stands that Futureshop has as well, but I understand the models of stands each store has are different. I've never went to Brampton FS (live in Markham)... do they have a large variety of stands? For a fact, I know that Lawrence and Markham East Futureshop has the most stands of the stores I've went to. Maybe you can help me look for a stand too... do you guys have any stands that have 2 levels, where the bottom level is 8+ inches high? (need it for my 6.5" tall HK-235 as well as 1.5"+ of breathing space).

Thanks.

ps: btw, how much are you making off of us from the real discounts that you get as an employee?

D.NGUYEN

Dec 9th, 2005, 11:33 PM

What do you guys think of me putting a deal every 2 weeks for a particular Big Screen TV. Starting with this weeks Sony TVs KFE and KDFE models. Of course if you wanted other TVs I'll still give a deal but to just give you guys like an exact number for that particular TV. Plus, Stands usually cost a lot but my discount brings it down quite a bit. But the pricing is different depending on the stuff you need to buy, some people need an entire package for hometheatre as opposed to just the TV and stand.

Jon Lai

Dec 9th, 2005, 11:47 PM

wesleyw

Dec 10th, 2005, 08:01 AM

Wanted to PM you but your mailbox is full.

D.NGUYEN

Dec 10th, 2005, 12:09 PM

DavidY

Dec 10th, 2005, 02:30 PM

That would basically be impossible, even if you worked at Futureshop you can't get it at that price. I'm sure I could work around the $3699 but not that much since it's reaching the employee pricing.

HP has it's 42PX500 clone priced at $3699....street pricing would probably lower than this. Model is HP PL4200N. It's reported to be exactly like the Panasonic 42PX500...except for a TVguide feature.

Dave

wesleyw

Dec 10th, 2005, 08:08 PM

Your message box is full, so I'll post the webIDs here.

10058986 and 10063048

Can you please look into these for me? Thanks

Jon Lai

Dec 10th, 2005, 11:02 PM

Hey guys, so I posted this weeks Sony deals from futureshop in the Hot deals section. Here are the prices for you guys.

Retail RFD Special
Sony KDFE 50" 2789.98 2649.99
Sony KDF 50" 2489.98 2239.99
Sony KDFE 42" 2299.98 2139.99
Sony KFE 42" 1989.98 1889.99

So here it is. For the guys who PMed me about this I'll PM this post to you.

KDF 50" for $2239... not as good as I expected. I knew they had a small profit margin but since it's FS, I thought it'd be at least $1999, lol. Oh well. Thanks for your efforts anyways, I'll be picking this model up for $2249 from Best Buy during the F&F event anyways, so for me it's not worth the drive to Brampton for $10, lol.

D.NGUYEN

Dec 11th, 2005, 12:24 AM

Hey guys, sorry my box was mad full from replies. Yeah, I guess for 10 bux it's not worth driving from the east end. Sorry I couldn't get it any lower, it's at employee cost so nothing I can do. If you live in the west end I guess it would be worth it. I'm tryin my best for RFD on the prices, sometimes I'll give you the price at if you buy the TV alone. Usually if you buy it as a package you would get a better deal. (the more things are on sale, the closer it is to having a discount at all.)