Corp Plan 30.00 is this a good deal???

[bell02fantasy]

30.00 month
200 local minutes
evenings and weekends 6:00-8:00
message centre
CD, CW, browswer
saf and 911 included
CF, 3way, detailed billing

i can get a samsung a860 for free as well..........

Is this a good deal

[ericssonboi]

And which carrier is this with?

[jm20]

The only billable options you have is CD and Detailed Billing, to get 911 and SAF included @ $30 is a good price. Ask for a free phone as well :)

[bell02fantasy]

The only billable options you have is CD and Detailed Billing, to get 911 and SAF included @ $30 is a good price. Ask for a free phone as well :)


bell mobility and the free phone is samsung a860 - which I have been reading some reviews that say its not the greatest....i need to decide by 1:00 today......................

[lolibra]

I got a pretty similar plan on Rogers, except it's $23 + SAF + 911, which is acutally pretty much the same. I think it's a pretty good deal.

[bell02fantasy]

I got a pretty similar plan on Rogers, except it's $23 + SAF + 911, which is acutally pretty much the same. I think it's a pretty good deal.


even with cd and call naswer

[gilboman]

bell sucks... you get stuck with their overpriced crappy 2nd tier phones for the length of your contract.

[bell02fantasy]

bell sucks... you get stuck with their overpriced crappy 2nd tier phones for the length of your contract.


amd you?....who r u with?..............becha payin more with the same quality phone or did u pay 299 for yours........

[bell02fantasy]

30.00 month
200 local minutes
evenings and weekends 6:00-8:00
message centre
CD, CW, browswer
saf and 911 included
CF, 3way, detailed billing

i can get a samsung a860 for free as well..........

Is this a good deal


In the end, I didn't get it...I chicken out. Does anyone know of anything similar out there???

[gilboman]

amd you?....who r u with?..............becha payin more with the same quality phone or did u pay 299 for yours........

bwhahaha... currently i'm using a Samsung X800,but unlike bell, its GSM so i have mulitiple phones that i switch between, and none of them are bell's ultimate crappy phones. $550 bought it for. and it most certainly is not bell quality :lol: :lol: :lol:

and of course i'm with the biggest network in the world of course GSM, where just the number of yearly growth in subscribers is larger than all of the TDMA networks combined. so as you can see, you know which market phone makers concentrate on ;)

bell get phone's that are afterthoughts

[yjxiao]

and of course i'm with the biggest network in the world of course GSM, where just the number of yearly growth in subscribers is larger than all of the TDMA networks combined. so as you can see, you know which market phone makers concentrate on ;)

bell get phone's that are afterthoughts

I'm sure you meant to say CDMA, as TDMA is the base technology of GSM. Bell's phone's are not afterthoughts. I paid 149 for my Moto E815. (Thanks bell for paying for most of my phone). I also get unlimted web browsing and data from bell.

There's a reason why Japan and South Korea(Two of the more advanced countries in the world regarding mobile phones) use strictly CDMA.

Read up, even GSM providers are now using WCDMA for their new high speed edge networks. GSM is a dying technology.

[bell02fantasy]

I'm sure you meant to say CDMA, as TDMA is the base technology of GSM. Bell's phone's are not afterthoughts. I paid 149 for my Moto E815. (Thanks bell for paying for most of my phone). I also get unlimted web browsing and data from bell.

There's a reason why Japan and South Korea(Two of the more advanced countries in the world regarding mobile phones) use strictly CDMA.

Read up, even GSM providers are now using WCDMA for their new high speed edge networks. GSM is a dying technology.


sorry gilboman.....they are right! talk to me in 6 months budd-ee......wcdma is cutting edge, its more like Rogers trying to unload while still "promoting" GSM...SAYL

[gilboman]

I'm sure you meant to say CDMA, as TDMA is the base technology of GSM. Bell's phone's are not afterthoughts. I paid 149 for my Moto E815. (Thanks bell for paying for most of my phone). I also get unlimted web browsing and data from bell.

There's a reason why Japan and South Korea(Two of the more advanced countries in the world regarding mobile phones) use strictly CDMA.

Read up, even GSM providers are now using WCDMA for their new high speed edge networks. GSM is a dying technology.

there is also a reason why most of the world is on GSM, and the new WCDMA is not what bell is using ;)

of course bell's phones are afterthoughts, its always the GSM handsets first and then a few make it to bell about a year after the GSM version has been out already.

so unless you like to be never able to buy non bell phones and use 2nd tier equipment, bell is the way to go.

Bell is great for people who don't care about features, reception, phones, no ability to buy from elsewhere, non compatability with rest of the world and don't care about being able to switch phones in less than a min with all the contacts and info switching as well.

bell is great if you just want a portable payphone

[gilboman]

sorry gilboman.....they are right! talk to me in 6 months budd-ee......wcdma is cutting edge, its more like Rogers trying to unload while still "promoting" GSM...SAYL

newsflash..Bell is not on it :lol: :lol:

[rayesyn]

if you can get a ROGERS corporate plan, that'd be great. I'm not a huge fan of bell. reason(s) because the reception in/around the Univ. of Waterloo/Laurier area is pretty crappy.


I got a pretty similar plan on Rogers, except it's $23 + SAF + 911, which is acutally pretty much the same. I think it's a pretty good deal.

[bell02fantasy]

newsflash..Bell is not on it :lol: :lol:


You MUST work for Rogers....next you will sellingthe virtues of cable tv vs Satelite.....

[Menace]

I got one and love it. $20/200min/unlimited wknd/wknght + $7.50 from 6pm, discount corp. LD rate/detail billing. I just renewed a 2 year contract with a sweet Motto V360 phone.


if you can get a ROGERS corporate plan, that'd be great.

[lolibra]

if you can get a ROGERS corporate plan, that'd be great. I'm not a huge fan of bell. reason(s) because the reception in/around the Univ. of Waterloo/Laurier area is pretty crappy.
I got a pretty similar plan on Rogers, except it's $23 + SAF + 911, which is acutally pretty much the same. I think it's a pretty good deal.
It is a Rogers corp that I was talkinga bout...

200 minutes, unlimited wkend/wknights (6pm-8am), call waiting, call display, call forwarding, voice mail, per second billing after 1st min, detailed billing. All for $23.

[gilboman]

You MUST work for Rogers....next you will sellingthe virtues of cable tv vs Satelite.....

no...just that bell is not on the CDMA that 3g phones are using.

it's just a fact that bell sells obsolete phones since their customers have no choice anyways.

but you should really have at minimum some knowledge of the phones... can you think of one reason why bell would be better when we all know bell has worst phones and is incompatible with any other phones you buy? and the phone will be useless outside of US/Canada?

[bell02fantasy]

no...just that bell is not on the CDMA that 3g phones are using.

it's just a fact that bell sells obsolete phones since their customers have no choice anyways.

but you should really have at minimum some knowledge of the phones... can you think of one reason why bell would be better when we all know bell has worst phones and is incompatible with any other phones you buy? and the phone will be useless outside of US/Canada?


I do have some knowledge of the phones. Your basis for your outburst is very weak. Your 2 strongest points are GSM vs CDMA - has already stated, gsm is a dying technology so of course rogers wants to squeeze as many people on it, tied up with 3 yr contracts- thats bad busines- fearful of change perhaps.
2nd- you keep bashing Bell phones, but you havent drawn any comparisons between rogers and bell phones - you keep stating "rogers phones the best" - bell phones 2nd rate....blah, blah......where is your evidence`? or is it more likely personal opinion???? I could stand up and rogers cable is horrible, 3rd generation technology and poor picture quality and go on and on like you do, but what would that prove...........
Just because has Bell has more cellular customers than Rogers, has more express vu customers that rogers cable customers , it seems that you have bell as some kind of target? what next their home telephone service stinks too???

[Chrispy]

Just because has Bell has more cellular customers than Rogers, has more express vu customers that rogers cable customers

I realize you might have just been making a point, but....no....lol....review the financial reports from Rogers Wireless, Telus Mobility and Bell Mobility before making such statements...also compare customer increase vs. churn rates vs. customer base for Rogers Cable Vs. Bell ExpressVu. There is a clear leader with numbers.

As for the new generation cell technology, ALL providers are in current phases of testing next generation or 3G services. WDCMA and 3G....

[fireguy9]

my fire dept plan is similar but $20 month with all the extras, and the monthly licence fee is $4.25

[bell02fantasy]

I realize you might have just been making a point, but....no....lol....review the financial reports from Rogers Wireless, Telus Mobility and Bell Mobility before making such statements...also compare customer increase vs. churn rates vs. customer base for Rogers Cable Vs. Bell ExpressVu. There is a clear leader with numbers.

As for the new generation cell technology, ALL providers are in current phases of testing next generation or 3G services. WDCMA and 3G....


thanks for the tip, but I already have.......Would you like to discuss numbers with me...lets talk how many customers have switched from cable to satelite !
How many have switched from satelite back to cable?
Remember Rogers had a monoply on cable............

[Menace]

That's kind of off topic

Rogers Corp. plan is sweet. Not to mention I can use any (new or used) unlock phone on GSM network. GSM 850 on Rogers is a big bonus :)


How many have switched from satelite back to cable?
Remember Rogers had a monoply on cable............

[gilboman]

I do have some knowledge of the phones. Your basis for your outburst is very weak. Your 2 strongest points are GSM vs CDMA - has already stated, gsm is a dying technology so of course rogers wants to squeeze as many people on it, tied up with 3 yr contracts- thats bad busines- fearful of change perhaps.
2nd- you keep bashing Bell phones, but you havent drawn any comparisons between rogers and bell phones - you keep stating "rogers phones the best" - bell phones 2nd rate....blah, blah......where is your evidence`? or is it more likely personal opinion???? I could stand up and rogers cable is horrible, 3rd generation technology and poor picture quality and go on and on like you do, but what would that prove...........
Just because has Bell has more cellular customers than Rogers, has more express vu customers that rogers cable customers , it seems that you have bell as some kind of target? what next their home telephone service stinks too???

well if you did say you know anything at all, you do not need anybody to tell you that bell's phone are about 1-2years behind the GSM equivalent.. find me a Bell phone with a 2meg camera, SD card slot, Bluetooth and EDGE data access with real player playback and can open and edit word/excel documents and play java games :lol: :lol: :lol: ? and let's not talk about live TV..good luck getting that on bell :lol:

please.. just take a look at why the largest numbers of newest phones out is GSM right now.. and you still seem to be confused and think Bell's ancient CDMA is the new 3g WCDMA when IT IS NOT.

rogers offers 3yr contracts but you can use any GSM enabled phone anytime and quite frankly, the 3yr contract is to offset the much higher quality phones. i mean if rogers does what bell does and sell 2yr old phones, then they don't need to subsidize it. so while under contract with bell, you can't use any other phone than a bell phone, while with rogers you can use ANY gsm phone.

and you are talking about a monopoly here :lol:

so 2yr old phones, unable to use any other phone other than Bell and incompatible with any network outside US/Canada and no SIM card to transfer your contacts quickly.

so choose something like that means either
A. you are delousional or
B. just don't care and you want a portable pay phone (i hope it's B, if it's A get help)

and you obviously have no knowledge despite your claims to the contrary because:

Rogers is the largest cellular provider not bell which you seem to mistaken as well.

Rogers has much more cable customers than expressvu as well..so i guess option A for you :lol:

[Chrispy]

thanks for the tip, but I already have.......Would you like to discuss numbers with me...lets talk how many customers have switched from cable to satelite !
How many have switched from satelite back to cable?
Remember Rogers had a monoply on cable............


Um, if you recall, Rogers had to INCREASE it's projected customer base increase this year because they were doing much better than they had originally projected...

Bell on the other hand is suffering mass churn and customer base is not increasing.

Rogers Cable has also increased significantly with it's customer base. This is largely due to the fact it now offers home phone and customers are switching for the bundling option.

Here is a link to Rogers financial results. You clearly did NOT read them or Bells.

http://www.rogers.com/english/investorrelations/index.html

[bell02fantasy]

Um, if you recall, Rogers had to INCREASE it's projected customer base increase this year because they were doing much better than they had originally projected...

Bell on the other hand is suffering mass churn and customer base is not increasing.

Rogers Cable has also increased significantly with it's customer base. This is largely due to the fact it now offers home phone and customers are switching for the bundling option.

Here is a link to Rogers financial results. You clearly did NOT read them or Bells.

http://www.rogers.com/english/investorrelations/index.html


Yeah, and ENRON was an honest...........Give it up..........and whats with the personal attacks.

[gilboman]

Yeah, and ENRON was an honest...........Give it up..........and whats with the personal attacks.

:lol: :lol: :lol: so are you suggesting rogers is making up subscriber growth and bell is making up subscriber lost?

on an unrelated note..center for addiction and mental health is located at spadina and college. ;)

[bell02fantasy]

:lol: :lol: :lol: so are you suggesting rogers is making up subscriber growth and bell is making up subscriber lost?

on an unrelated note..center for addiction and mental health is located at spadina and college. ;)


You said "you are delousional".....not bell not rogers, me..No happy face can fix that

[gilboman]

You said "you are delousional".....not bell not rogers, me..No happy face can fix that

you have obviously never learned to read then?

where did i say you personally were delousional ;)

here is exactly what i said, read it again and tell me where i explicitly said YOU were delousional :?:



so 2yr old phones, unable to use any other phone other than Bell and incompatible with any network outside US/Canada and no SIM card to transfer your contacts quickly.

so choose something like that means either
A. you are delousional or
B. just don't care and you want a portable pay phone (i hope it's B, if it's A get help)

[mlerner]

You said "you are delousional".....not bell not rogers, me..No happy face can fix that

I think you are the one with the fantasy. Learn to read financial reports and you'd know Rogers is doing much better than Bell in terms of Wireless service.

[Chrispy]

I think you are the one with the fantasy. Learn to read financial reports and you'd know Rogers is doing much better than Bell in terms of Wireless service.

It's ok, I think we should give up on this, he's incredibly ignorant, and I really don't thinkt hat will change....and look at his name, he seems to have fantasies about Bell...lol

[bell02fantasy]

It's ok, I think we should give up on this, he's incredibly ignorant, and I really don't thinkt hat will change....and look at his name, he seems to have fantasies about Bell...lol

Ignorant ? You are pushing your strong views on rogers, yet I can't express my views on bell. Sounds like a little bit of dictatorship.

I suppose if you were a Habs fan, then every single other team is crap and the habs are number 1 no matter what........Now thats good smart thinkin. Betcha never lost an argument...In fact have you ever been wrong?

[Chrispy]

Ignorant ? You are pushing your strong views on rogers, yet I can't express my views on bell. Sounds like a little bit of dictatorship.

I suppose if you were a Habs fan, then every single other team is crap and the habs are number 1 no matter what........Now thats good smart thinkin. Betcha never lost an argument...In fact have you ever been wrong?


I should direct your comments back to you - have YOU ever been wrong. it's pretty hard to prove someone wrong when I have the financial reports to back them up, and accusing Rogers of falsely increasing customer increase projections? Are you effing on crack? How many people now in this thread have come back to counter what you've said....hmmmm.....

Grow up. Let's leave it at this...or wait, i'm assuming you'll wanna have the last say...

[bell02fantasy]

I should direct your comments back to you - have YOU ever been wrong. it's pretty hard to prove someone wrong when I have the financial reports to back them up, and accusing Rogers of falsely increasing customer increase projections? Are you effing on crack? How many people now in this thread have come back to counter what you've said....hmmmm.....

Grow up. Let's leave it at this...or wait, i'm assuming you'll wanna have the last say...


1) All I'm saying is companies can "pad" results. Rogers lost a ton of money a few years ago. I never falsely accused them of increrasing projections. You have to look at other things like ebida, share price, etc. I work for a brokerage company so I know a few things
2) bell uses crappy phones, don't all cell comp have a few "on the shelf" phones they like to get rid of?

3) crack?

[rodneyc8063]

Should i even bother mentioning telus is rated the #1 wireless carrier in N.A (whatever that means) :)

[Bordello]

Should i even bother mentioning telus is rated the #1 wireless carrier in N.A (whatever that means) :)
No way. By whom?

[myapple]

You guys are funny. Let's all jump in...

Rogers: Regular plans are not the greatest, but they have good retention and corp plans. Phones are quite nice. GSM coverage is lacking a bit...still very weak in many parts of the GTA.

Bell: UGLY phones, bad advertised plans, okay coverage.

Fido: Good advertised plans, no retention plans. Phones are okay, but rogers offers a wider selection of GSM phones. Coverage is same as rogers since they now use the same network.

Telus: Plans are not very good. Phones are okay. Coverage is great.

Virgin: crappy phones, but pretty good rates for prepaid service. Can't comment on service.


Overall, if you want best coverage, get telus. If you want the best plan, try to get a rogers retention or corporate plan. If you just want a free phone...any company will do. Just sign away 2-3 years of your life with them. :cheesygri

[myapple]

30.00 month
200 local minutes
evenings and weekends 6:00-8:00
message centre
CD, CW, browswer
saf and 911 included
CF, 3way, detailed billing

i can get a samsung a860 for free as well..........

Is this a good deal

To answer the original question, it's an alright plan....not the greatest tho. If you compare it to rogers' corporate plans, you can get pretty much the same package for around $5-10 cheaper.

[bell02fantasy]

To answer the original question, it's an alright plan....not the greatest tho. If you compare it to rogers' corporate plans, you can get pretty much the same package for around $5-10 cheaper.


I forgot to add...take another 35% off that...employee discount.....30 - 35% = 30.00-10.50 = 19.50 + tax....

[Menace]

I really don't care about free phone or not from Rogers because I can get any unlocked phone I want from Ebay or Overseas. I make sure my phone has GSM 850. No, you don't have to sign away your life to get a nice phone. My corp plan is contract free :)


Overall, if you want best coverage, get telus. If you want the best plan, try to get a rogers retention or corporate plan. If you just want a free phone...any company will do. Just sign away 2-3 years of your life with them. :cheesygri

[D.NGUYEN]

ROGERS > BELL

I switched from Bell just a few weeks ago. Phones are dirt old. No features at all really. Coverage was pretty good. I hated the fact that I couldn't switch phones and was stuck with a VGA camara phone. Now I have Rogers.

Sony K750i that does everything that I want it to. Rogers rules.

[myapple]

I forgot to add...take another 35% off that...employee discount.....30 - 35% = 30.00-10.50 = 19.50 + tax....
rogers has similar corporate plans for $18-23 without employee discounts. I'm sure if you add employee discounts, the price might even be lower than $19.50. I'm not a rogers employee so I don't know the exact discounted amount.

If we're just comparing rates without adding any obscure special discounts, it appears that rogers does have better corporate plans and phones compared to bell.

[Chrispy]

rogers has similar corporate plans for $18-23 without employee discounts. I'm sure if you add employee discounts, the price might even be lower than $19.50. I'm not a rogers employee so I don't know the exact discounted amount.

If we're just comparing rates without adding any obscure special discounts, it appears that rogers does have better corporate plans and phones compared to bell.


Actually the Rogers employee price plan costs 6.95....

[rodneyc8063]

Telus was rated the # 1 N.A wireless carrier here:

http://www.rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=24054

If you dont want to register summary is:

Canadian operator Telus Mobility regained the top spot in N. Moore Capital Ltd.'s ranking of North America's top wireless operators based on a handful of second-quarter metrics. The metrics include penetration gain, customer churn, average revenue per user, cost per gross addition and pre-interest free cash flow (piFCF).
Telus Mobility posted a low score of 20 in the rankings boosted by top 10 placings in all five categories, including a first-place finish in piFCF and a pair of third-place finishes in penetration gain and churn. The carrier's first-place ranking comes off a third-place finish for the first quarter.

Verizon Wireless' total score of 25 was good enough for the runner-up position in the ranking. The carrier's strong showing included a couple of first-place finishes in penetration gain and customer churn, as well as a third-place finish in CPGA.

"Since [the fourth quarter of 2002] either Verizon Wireless or Telus have finished first (or tied for first) every quarter, truly demonstrating their superior operational results in the North American wireless industry," noted N. Moore Capital President Jeffrey Hines.

Nextel Partners Inc. just missed the No. 2 spot with a total score of 26. The carrier did not manage to lead any one category, but placed second in customer churn and ARPU as well as third in piFCF.

Bell Mobility's fourth-place finish with a total score of 32 put a pair of Canadian operators in the top five and reinforced the strong operational performance by wireless carriers north of the border. Bell Mobility finished second in penetration gain, fourth in CPGA, fifth in churn and sixth in piFCF during the second quarter, but was held back by a last-place finish in ARPU.

While not a combined operator during the second quarter, Sprint Corp.'s and Nextel Communications Inc.'s metrics were merged in the rankings and finished with a total score of 36, which was good enough for fifth place. The carriers combined to post industry-leading ARPU, but were near the bottom of the rankings at 13th place in cost per gross addition.

The sample group's largest operator, Cingular Wireless L.L.C., finished just inside the top half of the ranking in seventh place with a score of 38. Cingular's first-place CPGA results were tempered by a 14th-place finish in piFCF and 10th-place finish in churn.

Overall, N. Moore Capital found that internal net customer additions increased 16.2 percent year-over-year to 5.65 million during the second quarter; ARPU dropped 1.2 percent to $54.76 despite a 15.5-percent jump in minutes of use to 710 minutes; churn improved from 2.2 percent during the second quarter of 2004 to 1.9 percent this year; and CPGA surged nearly 10 percent year-over-year to $396 during the second quarter.

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This was news in like sept? Right now though i dont know how up to date this is. And as i said whatever it means

Also this is now off topic so i apologize for getting off topic here.