Maybe trolled by EiS (Albert Kramps)? Need advice.

[FreaknBigPanda]

I purchased two 512MB sticks of Kingston hyper x off of EiS about a month ago. When he recived the money he PMed me saying his apartment burned down and my cash went with it. He said that he had already cashed the Money Order so there was no way of me getting a refund. I gave him the benifit of the doubt, I mean as rediculous as it sounds it is possible I guess. He told me that when he gets the insurance he'll get the money back to me. I PMed him on the 26th of november (the fire apperantly happened on the 4th) just asking how the insurance is coming along as he has yet to reply. After I got the original PM on the 5th I did call the edmonton (EiS lives in edmonton) fire dispatch and asked if there had been any fires on his street, the lady I was talking to said that there had been no calls made the adress he gave me. Again I guess it's possible the fire department wasn't called or the lady might have not done a through enough search but I find that hard to belive. Anyways the only other thing that doesn't make much sense is that he gave me his home phone number in a PM before the 'fire' on the 4th. I called this number on the 5th of november... and he answered. He told me that it was his friends number and not his... but why would he give me his friends number before the fire even happened? Nothing is really adding up.
Anyways if anybody here has any suggestions I really apperciate it.

Thanks in advance.

[Avenger]

Well, if you have any of his personal info, call the number and name and whatnot you have and inform them you will be filing a police report, or a similar threat, if he does not get his act together. Sounds like you got scammed.

[DigitalN.]

what street is this on? I am going to Edmonton next week and I will check if any building is burnt down ;)

[Mike71]

Sounds like you probably got ripped off. Hopefully if you have his real name and address etc. there is something you can do about it. Just try to keep on him if you can and don't let him get away with it. Scammers always use those kinds of excuses to buy time to finish their scam. Its always I was in an accident, relative died, something personal came up. This fire one I haven't heard before but you can bet with any of these excuses 99/100 they are lying. Good luck with everything and let us know how you make out.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

what street is this on? I am going to Edmonton next week and I will check if any building is burnt down ;)

Please do.


I believe I have also been ripped off by him. I contacted the mods here about it but nothing came to fruition. I'll post a zip file here later explaining the entire process. Amourek, CactusJack, and Balou can all offer opinions on him.


I definitely feel he's scammed us. I'm out $155 :(

[Avenger]

http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=28729

His heatware indicates deals with many members. Try contacting them for his info. Many sellers keep info on people they deal with.

[MaDDN3ss]

Please do.


I believe I have also been ripped off by him. I contacted the mods here about it but nothing came to fruition. I'll post a zip file here later explaining the entire process. Amourek, CactusJack, and Balou can all offer opinions on him.


I definitely feel he's scammed us. I'm out $155 :(

Man that sucks.
It seems like the scammers all come in packs. Nothing for a couple of months then multiple instances all at once.

I for one am requesting shipping up front from now on if they have less heat or posts for that matter than me. Ive been rather lucky with only one real minor incident in which I was refunded anyway.

[Avenger]

Man that sucks.
It seems like the scammers all come in packs. Nothing for a couple of months then multiple instances all at once.

I for one am requesting shipping up front from now on if they have less heat or posts for that matter than me. Ive been rather lucky with only one real minor incident in which I was refunded anyway.
The way I do it is they either trust me and my rep/feedback, or they do business elsewhere. Unless I am able to trace their number to a valid address and name, and easily access their home shall something go wrong, I do not trust them. I will trust people I have dealt with before, but in general I do not think it is worth it for me to take risks with trusting people.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

http://raven.kalshadowtech.com/webstuff/forsale/kramps.zip

right-click, save as


Please tell me if the link doesn't work. This is a complete history of my dealings with him up until the "fire." It's a history of my PM's with him and others here he tried to scam. I've tried contacting the emergency services of Edmonton, but they don't keep written records of fires that have been fought. I'm next going to be investigating newspaper records. Anybody know the names of the papers in Edmonton?

He's also trying to scam over on another Biggie Buy and Sell forum (people here should know which forum that is ;) ). Balou caught him on it over there.

PM's have been ignored and he's blocked me off MSN. The last conversation we had was about how the movie Doom sucked and then........poof........fire and my money gone :(

[jollyeskimo]

He's a regular on bigfoot forums.

http://forums.bigfootcomputers.com/member.php?userid=1772

His last post was on the 18th of november, and last logged in activty according to the boards was the 3rd of december, which seems consistent to his alibi as far as this is concerned.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Yeah, but Bigfoot forum's is what convicts him. Check his last for sale thread. He talks about the Asus mobo he has (it's the one in his sig here on RFD). Balou asks him about his apartment fire. EiS says this Asus mobo was given to him by a friend (so he should have gotten that Asus mobo the first week of November or later). However, do a search and you'll see him talking about that same mobo multiple times (ie. how do I overclock, what's a good heatsink for my mobo, etc.) like 1/2 a year before the fire. Friend goes back in time to give him a mobo? You be the judge.

EDIT:

Let me illustrate:

His sig

Case: Aspire X-Navigator MotherBoard: ASUS A8V Deluxe Rev. 2 S939 CPU:Athlon 64 3500+ NC @ 2.4GHz on TR XP-90 Memory:1.5GB HyperX PC3200UL 2-2-2-5 Video Card:X800XT-Platinum SoundCard:Audigy 2 ZS PSU: OCZ ModStream 520Watt
My Heat My eBay Feedback

This thread ( 11-11-2005):
http://forums.bigfootcomputers.com/showthread.php?t=18901

anybody out there willing to trade there ASROCK 939Dual-SATA2 mobo for my ASUS A8V Deluxe rev 2 mobo willing to throw in some 2x256 corsair XMS PC3500 BH5 ram in with the mobo and also if wanted 2x256 sticks of hynix PC2700 running at PC3200 CL 2.5 ram too so 4 sticks of ram and my ASUS A8V Deluxe mobo for your ASROCK 939Dual-SATA2 mobo

if pics wanted LMK through any of the contacts

Feedback is in my sig

Contact Info

PM
Email- EiS420@gmail.com
MSN- eisdrache420@hotmail.com
ICQ 14885168
AiM EiSCELL
PH# 443-2037

Balou asks:

Didnt your apt burn down or something?

EiS answers:

yes it did and the asus mobo was given to me by my best friend Shawn but my uncle Randy has given me a PCI-E video card and i want to test out that mobo i know it sounds shady but its actully true and my friends and my uncle know how much i like comps and i also can't live with out one

its nice having good friends and family members thats willing to do that for me but also i have done the same thing for them just it was under different cercumstances

and also just wondering is this posted somewhere about my APT burning down and what heppened or am i just missing something


So far the dates match, right?


What's this?
(03-16-2005)
http://forums.bigfootcomputers.com/showthread.php?t=16717&highlight=Asus

Hey guys i'm getting a AMD Athlon 3500+ Newcastle CPU and i would like some recommendations on heatsink's i'm going to be useing a ASUS A8V Deluxe MoBo i'm not going to be Overclocking but i doo like to keep the CPU as cool as possable anyways really anything but Zalman or any Heatsink that you can't change the fan me i like to have the option of changeing the fan right now i'm stuck between the TR XP-90 or the TR XP-120 or maybe even the Coolermaster Hyper 48 what do you guys think??

P.S sorry for the run on and on and on sentience but i think its quicker for me just to type what i'm thinknig right there

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

EDIT2:

Or this?
(11-01-2005)
http://forums.bigfootcomputers.com/showthread.php?t=18824&highlight=Asus

Hey ppl i'm wondering i have a ASUS A8V Deluxe mobo and i'm wondering which SATA controller is the best to use the Promise one or the VIA one anybody know if there is a actul difference and if there is any peformance difference's of the two plz and thank you

By my calculations and the OP, this was before the date of the fire. So he's had the Asus board longer than the day of the fire. The stories don't match in my books. Hey, if I get my stuff or my money back I could care less. Until then............


EDIT3:

Just to cement home:
(06-07-2005)
http://forums.bigfootcomputers.com/showthread.php?t=17592&highlight=Asus

My OC right now is ok with my Asus A8V at 10@240 2400 Mhz on air not really trying OC cuz i don't really do it that much

[jollyeskimo]

Probably time to give Crom or Akai there a pm then

[MaDDN3ss]

Just read your file and the evidence looks fairly damning.

I have to head to Edmonton on some business at one of our branches up there in a couple weeks. I'll take a drive over that way and see what I can see.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Oh, anybody who wants his info can readily get it from me (ie. people in Edmonton who would like to pay him a visit). As to trusting him, well I had done business with him before. Ironically, when I sold him the pump he made me phone him, take pictures of everything (pump pumping, shipping receipt, pump before and after packed), and asked for quite a bit of my personal info. Since it was one of my first sales and I had little heatware, I let it slide. He was worried about me scamming him.........and now I'm the one who took it up the bunghole.

EDIT:

Thanks MaDDN3ss. I did quite a bit of investigating before I wanted to cry foul. People have personal problems and we can get behind on things. That's cool. Scamming somebody? Not cool.

Like I said--if I get my money back or my products (though, I'd rather have the money at this point) in the next month or so I will publicly apologize for being an @$$ and overly assuming.

[FreaknBigPanda]

Oh god so yeah he's defiantly scammer then :( Looks like I'm out $185 x_x well his adress and phone # are:

Deleted - PM me if you want it.

If somebody wants to go check it out I'll forever in in your debt... lmao. Just tried calling but got no answer. I'l try again later tonite.

[jEnkinsX]

i searched canada411.com and got this i dunno what it means lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/jEnkinsX/him.jpg

ive talked with him before about trading some stuff.. but never really went thru the transcation..

[bokep]

someone scam him back, ppppowerbook style, with movies and all

[jEnkinsX]

and when i searched that phone number it says :

We're sorry. We did not find a listing for the phone number you entered.
The phone number "(780) 443-2037" is a Edmonton, AB based phone number and the registered carrier is TELUS. However, due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to a new service provider other than the registered carrier.

[alpha_tot]

Hmmm...really weird...especially seeing as I bought an A8V deluxe off of him on november 3rd. he seemed like a decent guy, but he said he was a bit behind on his rent, so he gave me a good deal...he probably just needed some extra cash to tie him over, and had to resort to scamming :( ...or maybe his apartment really did burn down, and he had a couple of A8Vs...its possible. I hope you can get in touch with him.

[FreaknBigPanda]

So did you actually get the ASUS a8v from him? And yeah I'd be soo soo happy if I could get in touch with him. Seriously if I knew there was a fire @ his adress I wouldn't have even bothered posting this but it just seemed odd because as much as a searched for it I couldn't find any confrimation the fire ever happened... I mean even the edmonton fire dispatch said there were no calls to that adress. Well w/e I really hope we can sort this out.

[alpha_tot]

So did you actually get the ASUS a8v from him? And yeah I'd be soo soo happy if I could get in touch with him. Seriously if I knew there was a fire @ his adress I wouldn't have even bothered posting this but it just seemed odd because as much as a searched for it I couldn't find any confrimation the fire ever happened... I mean even the edmonton fire dispatch said there were no calls to that adress. Well w/e I really hope we can sort this out.
Yeah...I picked it up from his apt. I could drive over there and look for signs of a fire if you really want me to, but I doubt Ill find any. I dont really know what else I can do. I dont think knocking on his door would accomplish anything...I doubt he even has the cash to refund you.

[AMDr]

He's still around somewhere, he last logged into RFD yesterday...

[IvanAndreevich]

Yeah, but Bigfoot forum's is what convicts him. Check his last for sale thread. He talks about the Asus mobo he has (it's the one in his sig here on RFD). Balou asks him about his apartment fire. EiS says this Asus mobo was given to him by a friend (so he should have gotten that Asus mobo the first week of November or later). However, do a search and you'll see him talking about that same mobo multiple times (ie. how do I overclock, what's a good heatsink for my mobo, etc.) like 1/2 a year before the fire. Friend goes back in time to give him a mobo? You be the judge.

EDIT:

Let me illustrate:

His sig


This thread ( 11-11-2005):
http://forums.bigfootcomputers.com/showthread.php?t=18901


Balou asks:


EiS answers:



So far the dates match, right?


What's this?
(03-16-2005)
http://forums.bigfootcomputers.com/showthread.php?t=16717&highlight=Asus


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

EDIT2:

Or this?
(11-01-2005)
http://forums.bigfootcomputers.com/showthread.php?t=18824&highlight=Asus


By my calculations and the OP, this was before the date of the fire. So he's had the Asus board longer than the day of the fire. The stories don't match in my books. Hey, if I get my stuff or my money back I could care less. Until then............


EDIT3:

Just to cement home:
(06-07-2005)
http://forums.bigfootcomputers.com/showthread.php?t=17592&highlight=Asus

I sold him a A8V mobo. He had one already and he bought another one for his uncle from me (as far as I remember). I guess then the uncle gave him back the one he bought from me. Dealt with him a couple of times and he's been good to pay on time. He asked me to ship first and I did because he seemed trustworthy. He paid on time as promised 2/2 times.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Well, that would verify part of his story. Like I said, I could be jumping to conclusions. If I get my cash or the parts I'd be happy.

Come on Albert, prove me a paranoid @$$hole who jumps to conclusions :lol:

EDIT:

I guess the best thing would be to find out if there was a fire there. I'll see if I can't hunt down something in Edmonton papers tomorrow.

[balou911]

Hmmm...really weird...especially seeing as I bought an A8V deluxe off of him on november 3rd. he seemed like a decent guy, but he said he was a bit behind on his rent, so he gave me a good deal...he probably just needed some extra cash to tie him over, and had to resort to scamming :( ...or maybe his apartment really did burn down, and he had a couple of A8Vs...its possible. I hope you can get in touch with him.


holy cow..this has got to be either the nail in the coffin or the biggest coincidence.

I have lots of stuff in my basement, but 2x asus a8v mobos, never.

[anabeces]

refs don't mean ****, i was recented scammed by someone else w/ lots of heat, i am sure of it.

[bfg_16]

have mods been contacted regarding your situation and try and help ya out?
good luck!
get that up there so ppl can see...BUMP!

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

have mods been contacted regarding your situation and try and help ya out?
good luck!
get that up there so ppl can see...BUMP!

Yes.

[IvanAndreevich]

refs don't mean ****, i was recented scammed by someone else w/ lots of heat, i am sure of it.
Who scammed you?

[bclark]

I don't think giving out his information to the public is a good idea. Maybe you should give it to people who really want it through a pm. Just an idea though :lol:

[supernerd]

I've dealt with him twice and the deals went down in person, so I didnt have any problems. He only recently moved out and was having problems getting by with rent, but shortly after he asked me about buying a 17" CRT off me, so I thought he was OK for money again...?

Anyways, I drive by his apartment every weekend when I goto work, and I didn't see any obvious signs of fire for the building itself. But then again, it just might have been a small fire in his suite?

[DrekKFlash]

I purchased two 512MB sticks of Kingston hyper x off of EiS about a month ago. When he recived the money he PMed me saying his apartment burned down and my cash went with it. He said that he had already cashed the Money Order so there was no way of me getting a refund. I gave him the benifit of the doubt, I mean as rediculous as it sounds it is possible I guess. He told me that when he gets the insurance he'll get the money back to me. I PMed him on the 26th of november (the fire apperantly happened on the 4th) just asking how the insurance is coming along as he has yet to reply. After I got the original PM on the 5th I did call the edmonton (EiS lives in edmonton) fire dispatch and asked if there had been any fires on his street, the lady I was talking to said that there had been no calls made the adress he gave me. Again I guess it's possible the fire department wasn't called or the lady might have not done a through enough search but I find that hard to belive. Anyways the only other thing that doesn't make much sense is that he gave me his home phone number in a PM before the 'fire' on the 4th. I called this number on the 5th of november... and he answered. He told me that it was his friends number and not his... but why would he give me his friends number before the fire even happened? Nothing is really adding up.
Anyways if anybody here has any suggestions I really apperciate it.

Thanks in advance.

Sorry to hear of your bad luck....I've dealt with Albert a few times, never a problem. I know he lost his job a couple of months back, but I haven't heard from him for a while and never heard of any fire.

I have an address for him if you want to PM me. (maybe the same one you have, but maybe not)

D

[projectgz]

he seems like a nice guy tho. but then again... good ppl could go bad

[FreaknBigPanda]

ok.. I just called Albert. I got a hold of him. I didn't go ballistic as much as I should have. Basically asked him what the deal was and he made up some random excuse about his insurance not going through or something, said some guy entered the wrong account number (???) and basically that I'm never going to get my money back. He said he didn't have a job atm (neither do I -_-) and he's getting evicted from his apartment and he's really tight for cash. w/e. I told him that I called the Edmonton fire dispatch and that no fires were reported for his address and he sorta just went silent… didn't try to fight it at all. So yeah he is, without a doubt, lying about the fire in his apartment. I also told him that if I don't have my money within a month I'm going to contact the police, I said I didn't want to but I mean $185 is $185, especially when your unemployed.

I don't hate him for it, if I ever end up getting my money back I'll obviously forget all of this but man it's just such a pain in the ass.

[holyheaven]

i personaly agree with what u are planning to do...these scammers need some lessons...top of that, he wasn't even honest to you...so why would you be nice to him?




ok.. I just called Albert. I got a hold of him. I didn't go ballistic as much as I should have. Basically asked him what the deal was and he made up some random excuse about his insurance not going through or something, said some guy entered the wrong account number (???) and basically that I'm never going to get my money back. He said he didn't have a job atm (neither do I -_-) and he's getting evicted from his apartment and he's really tight for cash. w/e. I told him that I called the Edmonton fire dispatch and that no fires were reported for his address and he sorta just went silent… didn't try to fight it at all. So yeah he is, without a doubt, lying about the fire in his apartment. I also told him that if I don't have my money within a month I'm going to contact the police, I said I didn't want to but I mean $185 is $185, especially when your unemployed.

I don't hate him for it, if I ever end up getting my money back I'll obviously forget all of this but man it's just such a pain in the ass.

[jEnkinsX]

i personaly agree with what u are planning to do...these scammers need some lessons...top of that, he wasn't even honest to you...so why would you be nice to him?

what he said.. dont be nice.. u wasted lots of time already and yes i can be a pain in the butt.. contact the police :)

[FreaknBigPanda]

well I've got the MO recipt + the canada post confirmation so yeah that should be good enough I think. I'm going to give him a little more time though, hopefully he'll come through. who knows.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

ok.. I just called Albert. I got a hold of him. I didn't go ballistic as much as I should have. Basically asked him what the deal was and he made up some random excuse about his insurance not going through or something, said some guy entered the wrong account number (???) and basically that I'm never going to get my money back. He said he didn't have a job atm (neither do I -_-) and he's getting evicted from his apartment and he's really tight for cash. w/e. I told him that I called the Edmonton fire dispatch and that no fires were reported for his address and he sorta just went silent… didn't try to fight it at all. So yeah he is, without a doubt, lying about the fire in his apartment. I also told him that if I don't have my money within a month I'm going to contact the police, I said I didn't want to but I mean $185 is $185, especially when your unemployed.

I don't hate him for it, if I ever end up getting my money back I'll obviously forget all of this but man it's just such a pain in the ass.



You've just confirmed what I've suspected for quite some time. I think the both of us should give him some negative heatware for the moment. We should also get in touch to formalize our plan to getting our cash back.

[MARZ]

Wow this sucks. I know of EIS from Bigfoot, and have conversed about a few topics. He had some some small modding stuff for sale I was going to grab, but he does not do EMT soI never persued it any further.
Hope this all works out for the good.

[IvanAndreevich]

That's just too bad. If he has no money, he could at least return your memory :confused:

[wisc]

whats with all the scamming going on around here :l

people needing money for xmas or something i guess

good luck with whatever happens

[Mark099]

:arrowu:

[axeman]

i am sorry to hear of this happening again.
in my opinion you have given this person way too much time.there is no sense in giving him more time or feeling sorry for him either.people who scam you start out from the beginning to do so imo.personally i would get the police working on it right away, do not wait another month.
this guy could have returned your property if he was honest.but he didnt.
in order to stop the thieves who target the forums we need to prosecute them,and it should be done quickly.
it is getting to the point where there is no trust anymore,and until we put an end to these scammers by having them charged i dont see trust returning.
i dont mean to rant here,its just my opinion

[FreaknBigPanda]

I just phoned EiS again :p I basically told him that if the parts or the money isn't shipped by next Wednesday we're going to contact the police. He was pretty silent for the entire conversation, I'm not really surprised. Not much he could say to save himself... I did tell him that if he shipped the parts I would let the whole thing blow over (which I will). I really hope he makes the right decision.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Negative heatware just left. I'm gonna phone him in a bit after I go out and pay the bills.

[FreaknBigPanda]

:arrowu:

[FreaknBigPanda]

Police are being called later tonite, I'll post after I figure out what the deal is.

[Jrawk]

You should have called the police as soon as you found out he was being evicted.
You should have said you want the goods or the RAM in the mail, with tracking, by tomorrow at 12pm, or else you're calling the cops.

What excuse coudl he give you? He has to go to work? He has no job.

He deserves what he gets. And I hope the cops bust him, and his belongings burn down in his apartment.

[NODES]

:arrowu:

[xwar]

Wow this is a crazy story ...

[100eyes]

wow, what a bummer. to think someone who's been around RFD and biggie forums for a while would attempt to scam others - near x-mas too.

doing something wrong is one thing, not doing everything within your power to fix the problems you've caused is another.

if he has money troubles then that's his problem, shouldn't try to put others in the same situation.

I hope everything works out for the ones who lost their cash and don't have this craziness to deal with over the holidays.

[FreaknBigPanda]

Bad news. I called the police, there is nothing they can do because it is not a criminal offence. Apparently my only course of action at this point is to sue him, which obviously is a path I really do not want to take. Hopefully he'll learn his lesson eventually. Anyways the moral of the story: NEVER EVER DEAL WITH EiS. I'm seriously pissed about this whole affair. btw this really should be stickied or something, I would hate for somebody to get ripped off by him again :p

[xwar]

Bump! ...

[Kakarot]

road trip

[FreaknBigPanda]

hehe. Might be a good idea... than again it probably wouldn't acomplish anything :p

[Mr. D]

If he did rip off ppl like that, I hope someone will take out his teeth and than I hope he has no money for the dentist after that ! Those scammers are so annoying...

[NortHWizarD]

ya know... sh-it happens to everyone... but it is how we deal with it that sets us above. If nothing else, at least confronting the problem and being honest and not avoiding you would have helped, but avoiding and lying just take it from being a bad set of circumstances to theft and scamming.

He could have walked away from this with a black eye on the forums... instead, I wouldn't be suprised to hear about him getting a black eye in real life now.

If is terribly sad that a person can not have the decency or morals/ethics to just stand up and face the situation. Sure, he may not be able to give you the cash back, heck, he may have even already sold the parts as well and you are completely out... but... he could at least treat you like a person and at the very least give an appology and some honesty about the situation instead of all the lies he has dished out. No one likes getting ripped off, but somehow it seems a little easier to stomach if it isn't a complete and total lie.

I'm sorry someone on here has been such an a-hole, I hope he hasn't tainted the rest of the forum for you - very few people are like him... it's a complete shame there are ANY like him.

Here's wishing You and Your's a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

~NortH~

[Kakarot]

hehe. Might be a good idea... than again it probably wouldn't acomplish anything :p


Old school mafia style ;)

worse case scenario... much fun, many reward

muahahahaha

[FreaknBigPanda]

ya know... sh-it happens to everyone... but it is how we deal with it that sets us above. If nothing else, at least confronting the problem and being honest and not avoiding you would have helped, but avoiding and lying just take it from being a bad set of circumstances to theft and scamming.

He could have walked away from this with a black eye on the forums... instead, I wouldn't be suprised to hear about him getting a black eye in real life now.

If is terribly sad that a person can not have the decency or morals/ethics to just stand up and face the situation. Sure, he may not be able to give you the cash back, heck, he may have even already sold the parts as well and you are completely out... but... he could at least treat you like a person and at the very least give an appology and some honesty about the situation instead of all the lies he has dished out. No one likes getting ripped off, but somehow it seems a little easier to stomach if it isn't a complete and total lie.

I'm sorry someone on here has been such an a-hole, I hope he hasn't tainted the rest of the forum for you - very few people are like him... it's a complete shame there are ANY like him.

I completely agree, if he was at least honest with me I would be far far more lenient with the whole situation. As it stands I find it very hard to have even the slightest bit of respect for this individual.

[NortHWizarD]

I can't and don't blame ya for how you feel - if it were me, things would have gone farther.

what comes around goes around... he will get his... and he will deserve it completely and he will not get one ounce of sympathy when it happens... personally, if i had the chance, i would do it back to him intentionally.

but if he is smart, he will either make good, or just completely disappear... but the latter won't happen... he'll be back, i will bet on it.

~NortH~

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Merry Christmas y'all.



Just be careful when doing that last minute shopping. :|

[pswart]

Did anything ever happen with this clown?

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Nope :(

He hasn't been on MSN, BFC, or RFD since this all started. I'm still out $155 and, to the best of my knowledge, FreaknBigPanda is still outta his money. Thus, the link in my sig stays.

[pswart]

That really sucks!

You should really try to get this guy!

[Jokester]

This is really odd ive done many many deals with Eis, been online friends with him for over a year and he was all was a good guy to deal with and talk to about just about anything. Although i havent seen him as of late. Maybe hes having trouble making it im not sure i hope it works it out cause hes a good guy.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

I also have dealt with him before. My most recent exchange, however, would lead to believe he was not quite a "good guy." FreaknBigPanda's conversations with him show that he knows that he was lying about the fire, but that he didn't care. Hey, I'll sing praises to the roof over the guy.............as soon as I get my $$$ back.

[ynchu]

What RaVen got scammed? Man, this is not fair...

[Ghetto_Child]

Hi everyone, I dealed with EiS before. Luckily I got my money and everything went smooth. No clue if I can find his address because I've been a mess here and didn't keep everything.

I still have the paypal payment he sent me on May 3rd. It has his gmail and some physical address info. I'm pretty sure that's the same address I sent the items too because I remember the marlborough street name and he told me that the items arrived safely. Does anyone need this? Do I send it to the RFD moderators?

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Well, unless the info is different than this, I already have his old info:

Albert Kramps
Apt #(I'll leave this out, though, you can look at it in the zip I include in the first page)
154th Street
Edmonton, Alberta

Due to a lack of employment, as I understand it, he got kicked out of that apartment. Thus, the difficulty. The cops say they can't go after him and we don't even know where he lives anymore. Basically, we got f****d. So I keep the link in my sig in an effort to try and help you guys not get screwed over like I and FreaknBigPanda did.

[Ghetto_Child]

I have a different address in the same city. Different street but no appartment listed. The postal code is T5T 1Y6. The e-mail listed on paypal was a g-mail account but the rest of the address I have (which is different from yours) is listed in the paypal payment. He sent me 2 paypal payments 1 day apart with the exact same info.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Ooooooh.

That I might be interested in. PM it to me, will ya? Thanks.

[Beater]

Sounds like good trader gone bad. Those are the ones that are hard to watch for :mad: !

[Jokester]

Sounds like good trader gone bad. Those are the ones that are hard to watch for :mad: !

oh shutup, Maybe theres more then just "hes a big thief", Ive known him longer then anyone else there has to be a good reason why this happened. And the other thing he alwas worked on making sure he had good heatware he was really into good dealing.

[pswart]

oh shutup, Maybe theres more then just "hes a big thief", Ive known him longer then anyone else there has to be a good reason why this happened. And the other thing he alwas worked on making sure he had good heatware he was really into good dealing.

Yeah, ripping people off for $500 sounds like 'really good dealing.' There's no good reason to rip off others for your misfortunes.

[Ghetto_Child]

oh shutup, Maybe theres more then just "hes a big thief", Ive known him longer then anyone else there has to be a good reason why this happened. And the other thing he alwas worked on making sure he had good heatware he was really into good dealing.

Why don't you go find him and drag him back online to account for the problems that he's caused. I'm not passing judgement on him but oweing $500 without even trying to keep in touch is a really REALLY big thing. You don't just get $500 and not notice. You don't forget that you got $500 either. He should take ownership for what he's done.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

oh shutup, Maybe theres more then just "hes a big thief", Ive known him longer then anyone else there has to be a good reason why this happened. And the other thing he alwas worked on making sure he had good heatware he was really into good dealing.

When was your last dealing with him, if you don't mind me asking?

[Jokester]

When was your last dealing with him, if you don't mind me asking?

Nov. I bought a Swiftech Storm and Router off of him.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Well, he seems to have honoured you then. That would've been after my dealings with him.


We know you're around, Albert:


EiS
Member

Last Activity: Jan 29th, 2006 05:09 PM
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Let's get this sorted out.

[FreaknBigPanda]

Ive known him longer then anyone else there has to be a good reason why this happened.

I'd like to believe you but seriously all the evidence I've collected points at him ripping us off for no good reason at all. Fist he lies to me about the fire (he, as well as Edmonton fire dispatch, confirmed on the phone that this fire *did not* happen), I asked him why he did it and he told me he was unemployed and needed the $$ for rent, ok fine. Then I ask him if he even owned the ram at all, and he said it was in his comp, he was using the ram he sold to me!!! So basically he couldn't bare to be without his comp for a couple weeks and decided that ripping me off was the best option... Not very good judgment on his part IMO. I defiantly would not trade with him, and would not recommend trading with him to anybody. I really hope he comes clean eventually but I seriously doubt it at this point.

[Renniegade]

Wow dude that is so brutal! Did u look at the losers Heatware reviews b4 sending him anything? That really hurts, not just the pocket book, but your trust in other honest RFD members who are potential customers and aren't crooks. This guy has lost more than you have. Although he can create a new account, your post has alerted us and reminded us to be more cautious. I wish you luck in getting some kind of reimbursement.

[Jokester]

I talked to EIS, he hopes to pay everyone that he took money from back, he did it to keep a roof over his head (not saying thats any reason to rip off other people) but thats his reason. He just got a job so once he get up and back on his feet he said he would pay back those of you who where ripped off.

[NODES]

any news on the items still owed?

[cubalis]

bump to see what (if anything) came of this. As a new trader here I am trying to learn how best to avoid bad deals.... but it seems that even supposedly decent people turn sour.

[IvanAndreevich]

He messaged me recently on MSN (he's not on my list, but I am on his).

I asked him WTF was going on with that and he said that he doesn't have a job right now. He was also talking about his X850XT PE.. so I said why don't you sell it and repay the people and THEN when you get a job get YOURSELF a card.

Kinda no reply there :|

[koft]

After reading all of the posts, I sympathize with people who are going thru hard time. However, there are many methods to try to find resources to deal with the problem at hand rather than scamming others (basically stealing). I understand there are ppl in this forum had a +ve experiences dealing with EiS, yet it doesn't negate the current bad deal that happens. You can defend him, but what happens if you are on the receiving end of this (i believe you will likely do the same) ...FreaknBigPanda gave him more than enough time to round up the fund to either pay him back / send him the memory, (even though he lied about a fire etc, even with the fire the money should've been returned anyways, as no product was being exchanged!). If he is getting evicted, sell his computer, table, etc to pay for his rent and basic necessities.

[100qn]

Wow I read it all ;). Pages were adding up as I was reading through. Sorry for all of you guys that were scammed. I hope that he repays everyone what he owes them. But judging by all the post it will either never happen or maybe next xmas?

[Lil Big Mec]

I understand there are ppl in this forum had a +ve experiences dealing with EiS, yet it doesn't negate the current bad deal that happens.
You are only as good as your last trade. Also, how freakin hard can it be to find a job in a city the size of Edmonton :confused: Just pump gas or something!

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

He messaged me recently on MSN (he's not on my list, but I am on his).

I asked him WTF was going on with that and he said that he doesn't have a job right now. He was also talking about his X850XT PE.. so I said why don't you sell it and repay the people and THEN when you get a job get YOURSELF a card.

Kinda no reply there :|

Thanks, Ivan. I appreciate that. And, no, I haven't heard from him yet. :(


I've got my VIA rail points saved up to the point that I can make it to Sask. without having to pay. I've always wanted to see the west. I'm just debating making a pit stop at a certain place ;)

[anabeces]

there are a lotta shady guys with lots of positive heat on RFD.

[MaDDN3ss]

You are only as good as your last trade. Also, how freakin hard can it be to find a job in a city the size of Edmonton :confused: Just pump gas or something!

Alberta is booming majorly. In both Calgary and Edmonton we can't find enough people to fill all the jobs. Even the local Dairy Queen is paying $10/hr to start. The oilfield needs all sorts of labourers, as does the construction industry. There is no excuse for his behaviour.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Alberta is booming majorly. In both Calgary and Edmonton we can't find enough people to fill all the jobs. Even the local Dairy Queen is paying $10/hr to start. The oilfield needs all sorts of labourers, as does the construction industry. There is no excuse for his behaviour.

$10 at the Dairy Queen? Wow. The cost of living there must up quite a bit. I know it is at Ft. Mac. I've always found that Alberta's economy goes through big booms and busts. Great when it's on a boom--not so great when it's not. Hey, if things are that hot there now, make whatever ya can. Oil prices don't look like they'll be falling any time soon so if you're gonna make the dough, make it now. Depending on the job situation here in Ontario, I might be coming out to Alberta to work.



there are a lotta shady guys with lots of positive heat on RFD.

Yeah, but there's also a bunch of excellent people here. RFD, as a whole, has a pretty amazing community. Just look at all the people who told EiS to get his act together. I certainly wouldn't expect that anywhere else.

[100qn]

:arrowu:

[Happy13178]

Today:

eisdrache420@hotmail.com says:
hey man do you use FireFox
Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal... says:
yeah
Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal... says:
are you EiS?
eisdrache420@hotmail.com says:
EiS420 do you mean
Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal... says:
no
eisdrache420@hotmail.com says:
where do you know that name
Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal... says:
rfd
Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal... says:
bigfoot
eisdrache420@hotmail.com says:
no i don't go by EiS its eather Eis Drache or EiS420
Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal... says:
where do you live?
eisdrache420@hotmail.com says:
Leduc
Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal... says:
Alberta?
eisdrache420@hotmail.com says:
ya
Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal... says:
yeah
Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal... says:
I think thats unlikely
Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal... says:
I added you from rfd...2 guys with the name Eis, even partially, both from Alberta, on the same boards?
Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal... says:
You had an apartment fire, supposedly?

That was last message....no response. Looks like a troll...

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Yeah, I'd bet good money that was written from his computer that got melted into a puddle in his apartment fire :rolleyes:

[Lil Big Mec]

"Eis Drache" is the alias he used on msn last time we talked about the watercooling he had for sale. Def. him.

[Happy13178]

I figured. How many users would have a name that similar from the same region on the same boards? Bloody unlikely...

[mysticalinfluence]

:arrowu:

[neo1973]

:arrowu: :)

[Happy13178]

:arrowu:

[NortHWizarD]

on the topic of scammers... and I had thought I saw a link to it in this thread somewhere but now can't find it...

there is a list someplace online where they list the scammers and what forums they scammed on etc.

anyone remember seeing this or have a link?

I am getting scammed right now... guy even made it clear he is scamming me... so I am making sure he doesn't get anyone else... to bad the guy is in the US, or I would be visiting him personally... but then again... I have friends in the state he lives in :)

if anyone knows of the site that has the scammer list.. please post it for everyone to see and check out :) it would be great info!

TIA,

~NortH~

[jollyeskimo]

on the topic of scammers... and I had thought I saw a link to it in this thread somewhere but now can't find it...

there is a list someplace online where they list the scammers and what forums they scammed on etc.

anyone remember seeing this or have a link?

I am getting scammed right now... guy even made it clear he is scamming me... so I am making sure he doesn't get anyone else... to bad the guy is in the US, or I would be visiting him personally... but then again... I have friends in the state he lives in :)

if anyone knows of the site that has the scammer list.. please post it for everyone to see and check out :) it would be great info!

TIA,

~NortH~

http://forums.bigfootcomputers.com/showthread.php?t=2051

http://www.trollhunters.com/ (used to work... doesn't seem to load for me now)

http://www.pcabusers.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5254

There should be a thread on anandtech as well... if you pass along the info maybe we can see what we can do to help you out.

[Blades99]

on the topic of scammers... and I had thought I saw a link to it in this thread somewhere but now can't find it...

there is a list someplace online where they list the scammers and what forums they scammed on etc.

anyone remember seeing this or have a link?

I am getting scammed right now... guy even made it clear he is scamming me... so I am making sure he doesn't get anyone else... to bad the guy is in the US, or I would be visiting him personally... but then again... I have friends in the state he lives in :)

if anyone knows of the site that has the scammer list.. please post it for everyone to see and check out :) it would be great info!

TIA,

~NortH~

That's sad NorthWizard,
Do you want me to Wack the guy?
Off the Guy?
Wack off the Guy?
Pulled from a Familly guy episode.
Hehe, hope you get your things back
Blades

[NortHWizarD]

Thanks guys!!

~NortH~

[VirusSyn]

bump sounds like a rotten rotten scammer, hope it gets figured out. At least return the freaken items give me a break! if your apt burnt down and you cant pay thats fine just return the items, its not hard, hate scammers they ruin it for us

[IvanAndreevich]

http://forums.bigfootcomputers.com/showthread.php?t=2051

http://www.trollhunters.com/ (used to work... doesn't seem to load for me now)

http://www.pcabusers.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5254

There should be a thread on anandtech as well... if you pass along the info maybe we can see what we can do to help you out.
It's http://www.trollhunters.net/

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

PM'ing SSS over at OCF might help ya, NortHWizarD.

[turtletrax]

I live 15 minutes from Leduc.

LMK if he really does live in Leduc. I will do what I can.

[that_staples_guy]

:arrowu: Let's bag this guy.

[Happy13178]

If anyone's got an IP in any emails I can narrow it down much further.

[djthouseofboom]

stupid scammers....nice apt fire lol

i hope the "EiS" d00d posts a WTB thread so we can all take part in scamming the scammer.......


someone scam him back, ppppowerbook style, with movies and all

ppppowerbook style http://houseofboom.no-ip.org/bling.gif

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Addresses that I have for Mr. Kramps:

Albert Kramps
Apt #(I'll leave this out, though, you can look at it in the zip I include in the first page)
154th Street
Edmonton, Alberta

^ That's the one where I sent my MO to. As I understand it, that's the apartment that burned down.

Albert Kramps
149 Marlborough Place
Edmonton, Alberta T5T 1Y6
Canada

^ That address was given to me from a fellow RFD'er (thanks Ghetto_Child). I believe this is his parent's place. Why? Well, it's a paypal address from my gathering and he probably set it up while living there by my guess. 411 doesn't turn up anything at that address, though.

Heck, if I need a break from exam studying, maybe I'll just phone 'em all :lol:

[VirusSyn]

:arrowu:

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

EiS
Member
EiS's Avatar
Last Activity: Apr 3rd, 2006 03:30 PM
Offline


Why hello :|

[thephenom]

:arrowu:

[neo1973]

:arrowu: :)

[drkCrix]

Here he is on Bigfoot

Last Activity: 02-24-2006 05:24 PM

[CobraYu]

Ah man .. lucky me to have avoided someone like that. Someone get him! =) it'll make me feel a lot better for not being scammed ! :razz:

[VirusSyn]

:arrowu:

[Ghetto_Child]

Are 3rd party bumps still allowed on this thread? Good luck getting this resolved.

[Noob1ee]

Are 3rd party bumps still allowed on this thread? Good luck getting this resolved.

I don't think so, but I do think that VirusSyn does not know bout the new rule:!:

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

I'm not sure how the mods would handle this thread. Nothing is for sale and bringing this thread to the top is more of a community service than anything else. Maybe they'll move it now to the section with the other scammers? Dunno.

[Hemorrhage]

I know this is old but i thought you guys would like a update
I'm sorry for what my Cousin did to you to guys but i can assure you thats not going to happen again for a long time you see he is my Cousin from my aunt Diana Kramps and he has been sent to jail by her for Credit card Fraud for 15 years in the Edmonton remand center he stole his own mothers CC and used it for buying stuff left right and center and ran it to the max 5000 bucks and i think ppl are going to looks down on me just cuz i have the same last name but plz don't i'm a completely different person then him and have never lived in edmonton i have been a farm boy my whole life living in Onoway Alberta

[pswart]

Is this for real?

[Hemorrhage]

yes it is if i had a scanner or something of the like i could scan the pic of his mug shot i have of him or i could give you his moms PH# but after the trial she will only answer the phone to numbers she knows i don't really know any other form i proof i could show and send unless there is a way to search on who is in the edmonton remand center

[_dangtx_]

wait wasnt this solved???

[Hemorrhage]

well from reading the whole post i think it was in a way it was proved that he actully did scam them but hey i thought ppl would like to know what happened to him and say something like what i say he got what he deserved he has been untrustworthy ever since i could first remember him

[pswart]

Well, whoever got screwed by him can request a license plate made by Albert Kramps. Not as good as cash, but justice none the less.

[Icedawn]

yes it is if i had a scanner or something of the like i could scan the pic of his mug shot i have of him or i could give you his moms PH# but after the trial she will only answer the phone to numbers she knows i don't really know any other form i proof i could show and send unless there is a way to search on who is in the edmonton remand center

if you give me some more information I'll look up his case...

strange thing is that when I look up "Kramps" on a comprehensive case website (westlawecarswell), only 8 cases show up and none involve this supposed cousin of yours...

[Tinku]

15 years for a credit card fraud.. 14 years for killing someone and 15 yrs for credit card fraud ?

[Hemorrhage]

well it was a small trial last only like 15 min to half an hour in court and this diden't happen in edmonton it happened where his mom lives cuz after the scamming thing happened on here he got kicked out of his appartment and went to live with his mom in stony plain and credit card fraud and handled very seriously and he could of actully gotten up to 20 years it all depends on how much you steal and if you have ever had a previous record

if you guys don't believe me w/e i can't give out anymore information cuz i really don't know anything more cuz i could care less on what happened to him

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Well, whoever got screwed by him can request a license plate made by Albert Kramps. Not as good as cash, but justice none the less.


That'd be nice, but..................

[randomdef]

Just an update to this thread.

CharlesKramps@gmail.com used by the nick Hemerrage, who posted above is EiS. A quick google of that email takes you to http://isohunt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108739&highlight=

he denies the **** out of it but its the same guy. not a bright guy either.

actively scamming people.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Thanks for the update. I had a PM from him when he first joined:


Hey i have been reading up on the forums and i see you had some bad dealing with my lowlife cousin Albert Kramps if your wondering i'm Charlse Kramps wondering did you ever hear anything back from him cuz he even ripped off some of his familey members and after he ripped your and the other guy off ever since then he has went down hill and i haven't heard anything about him for almost a year and plz don't make a generality and say cuz one Kramps is bad there all bad Albert Kramps has never been trust worthy since the beggining i am a completely different person

Charles..........Albert............whoever........ .....the name is mud to me. And mud is using a polite term :)

Ironically, his sig here somewhat sums up what I feel should happen to him and what I feel his social standing in life is:


not my Lowlife cousin Albert Kramps thats in jail for 15 years for Credit card fraud useing his own mothers card what a loser

Pics have been added as references for future buyers/sellers.

http://kalnet.kalshadowtech.com/php/phpBB2/album_pic.php?pic_id=2103

http://kalnet.kalshadowtech.com/php/phpBB2/album_pic.php?pic_id=2104

EDIT:

http://www.tvg.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=17420&highlight=&sid=7e5d64a0e6c8e170f2885843eb6ca2cc

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=100th+ave+and+154th+street,+edmonton&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=27.154178,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=53.54018,-113.586316&spn=0.01219,0.029182&z=15&om=1

As per Hemorrage:

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Onoway,+alberta&ie=UTF8&ll=53.704176,-114.18932&spn=0.024286,0.058365&z=14&iwloc=addr&om=1

His last activity:

Last Activity: Oct 1st, 2007 02:50 PM

Last Activity: Oct 9th, 2007 10:57 PM (as Hemorrage)


Anyway the mods can get an IP trace on him? Thanks.

[h2o-]

Can this thread be moved to "Scammers/Warnings" forum?

[mcg]

Thanks for the update. I had a PM from him when he first joined:



Charles..........Albert............whoever........ .....the name is mud to me. And mud is using a polite term :)

Ironically, his sig here somewhat sums up what I feel should happen to him and what I feel his social standing in life is:



Pics have been added as references for future buyers/sellers.

http://kalnet.kalshadowtech.com/php/phpBB2/album_pic.php?pic_id=2103

http://kalnet.kalshadowtech.com/php/phpBB2/album_pic.php?pic_id=2104

EDIT:

http://www.tvg.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=17420&highlight=&sid=7e5d64a0e6c8e170f2885843eb6ca2cc

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=100th+ave+and+154th+street,+edmonton&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=27.154178,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=53.54018,-113.586316&spn=0.01219,0.029182&z=15&om=1

His last activity:

Last Activity: Oct 1st, 2007 02:50 PM

Anyway the mods can get an IP trace on him? Thanks.

Uh...

First things first, the impression he gives off in the way he types doesn't really convince me to be sympathetic for this Charles Kramps guy.

And whether or not he is Albert Kramps himself is unknown, I may have missed it or something, but where's the proof of his conviction for fraud?

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Uh...

First things first, the impression he gives off in the way he types doesn't really convince me to be sympathetic for this Charles Kramps guy.

And whether or not he is Albert Kramps himself is unknown, I may have missed it or something, but where's the proof of his conviction for fraud?

The link to isohunt (the first image I saved in my last post):


e-mail- charleskramps @ gmail.com
MSN- eisfx@hotmail.com

_________________
AiM- EiSCELL
MSN- eisdrache420@hotmail.com

EiS has the email of Charles Kramps. Hemorrage says he is Charles. The MSN address of EiS (eisdrache420@hotmail.com) matches the MSN of Charles Kramps.

Good enough for me.


EDIT:

He also seems paranoid like Albert was with me the first time we did an exchange. I guess he figures all people are as greedy as him:


Well his last PM was 5 hours ago like i said it maybe to soon but this is my first time buying anything online and i'm kind of a paranoid person

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=430615

[randomdef]

Uh...

First things first, the impression he gives off in the way he types doesn't really convince me to be sympathetic for this Charles Kramps guy.

And whether or not he is Albert Kramps himself is unknown, I may have missed it or something, but where's the proof of his conviction for fraud?

There is no conviction. The guy claming the scammer was convicted was he himself claiming it. Same email address. same area (100th ave is down the street from me, but without specifics its useless as its all apartments) and they share the same last name and they share the same email for all of the alias.

fun times.

[Torch]

If anyone wants to sue him, let me know. I'd be happy to help serve him papers.

[_dangtx_]

so whats going on with this troll here?

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

We're just putting the warning out as legal ramifications have been less than ideal.


Until I can take a trip out that way I'm just letting people know to be wary of the Kramps. He's still around so be careful.