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wju2004
Dec 12th, 2005, 05:49 PM
Has nyone here gone keyless for their homes - not condos.
Where did you purchase from and how much did it cost (both in terms of time and materials)??

Arrow
Dec 12th, 2005, 07:02 PM
You mean those locks where you punch in the code? I haven't looked recently, but they were around $150 at HD last time I saw them. Weiser, I believe.

reflex
Dec 12th, 2005, 07:21 PM
Those type of locks are so very cool lol, I wonder how durable they are..like if someone just mashes numbers for a few hours trying to break in?

galanz
Dec 12th, 2005, 09:04 PM
I've had the Weiser version for about a year and a half now, and so far no break-ins. :lol:

It works quite well overall, but our weatherstripping needs to be redone so ours doesn't always work on the first try. It's also on its third set of alkalines, I'd recomend to always carry a key just in case the batteries do die.

I bought ours at Totem(now owned by Rona) for just under $100+tax on sale.

temporalillusion
Dec 12th, 2005, 09:09 PM
Costco.ca has a fingerprint activated one! For the truely geeky. :cheesygri

Kenneth
Dec 12th, 2005, 09:19 PM
I have a Weiser; works well for the past 3+ years. Batteries last about 6 months but gives you a week or two of notice. I have installed on my garage entrance to the house; it's not secure enough (imo) to use as your main entrance lockset.

reflex
Dec 12th, 2005, 10:21 PM
Costco.ca has a fingerprint activated one! For the truely geeky. :cheesygri

are you serious? that is the uber cool.

gman
Dec 12th, 2005, 11:01 PM
it's not secure enough (imo) to use as your main entrance lockset.

I agree. Someone can steal the code by using a telescope, a hidden camera, etc.

wju2004
Dec 13th, 2005, 08:09 AM
Any magnetized card key access ones out there? Will try to check out the one at Costco - that sounds really cool to me too!

Audiogenic
Dec 13th, 2005, 01:19 PM
Retina scan activation coming soon. . .

temporalillusion
Dec 13th, 2005, 03:07 PM
http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Productgroup.aspx?prodid=10287894&whse=&topnav=&cat=

http://www.costco.ca/Images/Content/Product/931689.jpg

felix
Dec 15th, 2005, 07:34 AM
Personally i think such a gadget would attract more break-ins. Just because the thieves might think you're rich and have more goodies inside because you can afford such a "high-tech" thing.

But i really like the retinal scan idea. Imagine carrying groceries in both arms and not having to drop them on the ground and get everything dirty just so you can unlock the door. Maybe in a few decades they will be more common. :)

duckdown
Dec 18th, 2005, 11:28 PM
That fingerprint one would be PERFECT if *only* it required an actual cut key as well.

Like, the door wont open for someone with a key unless the print matches as well.. I like that security stuff

ragin_pyro
Dec 19th, 2005, 12:19 AM
Retina would be the best, hardest to fake 2..I immagine in covert word u can break it..but for everyday things..I dunno bout fingerprint..jus use a gummy bear :cheesygri But would be so cool...

jollyeskimo
Dec 19th, 2005, 12:38 AM
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/77af/

Oni-kun
Dec 19th, 2005, 12:53 AM
I read in some lock security book that the most secure locks are digital locks with numerical pads that randomly re-scramble the location of the numbers on the pad every time the lock is used. That way people can't look for wear on certain numbers and noting the location of where you push your fingers on the pad is also useless.

plisk3n
Dec 21st, 2005, 11:01 AM
We got one and they're so convenvient compared to fumbling around with the keys.

reidjr
Dec 21st, 2005, 12:20 PM
We have one as well.With ours you can not just keep typing number after the third try it shuts down.

wju2004
Dec 21st, 2005, 01:07 PM
What is the name brand of your lock?
What happens if someone is messing around with your lock then and randomly putting in numbers?? Do you have to use a physical key to reset the system.

Your system sounds really good.

glaswegian
Dec 25th, 2005, 09:58 AM
Am thinking twice now about going down this route, after reading what a few morons were discussing in the link below


http://www.uer.ca/forum_showthread_archive.asp?fid=4&threadid=15596&currpage=1&pp#post17

glaswegian
Dec 25th, 2005, 10:17 AM
Also, on the subject of door handles, does anyone know or tried the FORGE brand brushed nickle from RONA?

http://www.houseandhomeforums.com/showthread.php?p=74515

fakishan
Dec 27th, 2005, 08:18 PM
Also, on the subject of door handles, does anyone know or tried the FORGE brand brushed nickle from RONA?

yes, I'v been using them for 3 months now, and everything is fine.

although the Defiant from Home Depot is getting more difficult to use (3 months old).

I recommend not buying these cheapos, you'll be forced to replace them in 2-3 years at best..

Yukikaze
Dec 27th, 2005, 08:35 PM
Those fingerpint systems has some flaws in it. Say someone uses their fingerprint and then someone collects the fingerprint from the last few seconds using some black power and tape unless it uses thermal heat also. Then you use that tape on your finger and apply it on the pad. :lol: All this from watching CSI :lol: :cheesygri

napoleon
Dec 27th, 2005, 09:24 PM
saw this company mentioned on the news a few weeks back...

Internet-connected locks:
http://www.lochisle.com


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ccubed
Dec 28th, 2005, 07:23 AM
The keyless works quite well and as mentioned by a previous poster you will have plenty of warning before the batteries die on you.

The lock comes with two codes, so you can have one for you and one for the cleaning lady if you like.

If you're buying it for high security, then forget it. Most thieves can get past any outside door lock regardless of the style. Get an alarm or a big dog ;) Worried about someone getting the code? Just stand in front of the door when you enter the code - or get new neighbours!!

The beauty of this lock is the convenience - like when you go out for a walk or a bike ride or just to take the dog for a walk.. you don't need the keys. Plus, working around the house you can walk out the front door, push a button and it's locked.. cut your grass.. then enter a code and you're back in.

Finally, prices range in the $100 to $150. Watch Crappy Tire as they often have this lock on sale and you can price match +10% at HD - we ended up with one of these locks for $92 taxes in from HD after the match + 10%.

coolpc
Dec 28th, 2005, 08:50 AM
i have one of these locks dont remember the brand, but it has 5 number buttons and 1 in the center for lock. have been using it for almost 3 years now, only problem i find is that since last winter it seems that it is too cold for the motor(working fine during summer), i have to sometime enter in my pin 3 times to unlock all the way, is there anyone else getting this problem?? always end up using my keys late at night since the keypad makes loud noises. but overall i think it is great!

fakishan
Dec 29th, 2005, 09:37 PM
Those fingerpint systems has some flaws in it. Say someone uses their fingerprint and then someone collects the fingerprint from the last few seconds using some black power and tape unless it uses thermal heat also. Then you use that tape on your finger and apply it on the pad. :lol: All this from watching CSI :lol: :cheesygri


LMAO, I wasn't aware black people had special skills to circumvent such security devices.

plymouthhater
Dec 30th, 2005, 09:42 AM
Most companies that use pushbutton door locks use Unican locks:
http://locksanddoor.com/Pushbutton_locks.htm

shamrock17
Nov 19th, 2011, 11:30 PM
we got ours from Rona 3 yrs ago and no problems so far !

deltone
Nov 20th, 2011, 01:18 AM
Costco.ca has a fingerprint activated one! For the truely geeky. :cheesygri

We have them on our garage door as well as our front door. The one on the garage door is around 5 years old and still going strong. The one on our front door is almost 2 years old and it's working just fine. I highly recommend these types of locks. The conveniences is great.

As far as the fingerprint ones go, specifically the Costco one, be warned that they are not great for outside doors in cold climates. I used to own a small private gym and I went that route and I had a lot of problems with it so I had to return it to Costco. Don't even bother with it. Yes, they're great but more for indoors, like in a business setting. We replaced it with a keypad one and have not had any problems.

renoboy
Nov 20th, 2011, 04:50 PM
Also, on the subject of door handles, does anyone know or tried the FORGE brand brushed nickle from RONA?

http://www.houseandhomeforums.com/showthread.php?p=74515

stick to the brand names , ie Weiser and Schlage , watch for sales and purchase then . quality is much better as is the warranty. with locks you really do get what you pay for.

renoboy
Nov 20th, 2011, 04:53 PM
The keyless works quite well and as mentioned by a previous poster you will have plenty of warning before the batteries die on you.

The lock comes with two codes, so you can have one for you and one for the cleaning lady if you like.

If you're buying it for high security, then forget it. Most thieves can get past any outside door lock regardless of the style. Get an alarm or a big dog ;) Worried about someone getting the code? Just stand in front of the door when you enter the code - or get new neighbours!!

The beauty of this lock is the convenience - like when you go out for a walk or a bike ride or just to take the dog for a walk.. you don't need the keys. Plus, working around the house you can walk out the front door, push a button and it's locked.. cut your grass.. then enter a code and you're back in.

Finally, prices range in the $100 to $150. Watch Crappy Tire as they often have this lock on sale and you can price match +10% at HD - we ended up with one of these locks for $92 taxes in from HD after the match + 10%.

sums it up nicely , no mid priced locks for home use offer ultimate security , professionals will likely kick the door in anyways , no real way to protect yourself from professionals all you can do is slow them down. i've had the weiser keypad lock for years and it works great , fairly simple install as long you have a 2 1/8 inch hole.