Any Schulich students on RFD?

[FearSonic]

Just asking a few questions.

1) Was it hard to get in? What year did you get in and what was your final average?
2) Do you find you made the right choice? If you could go to another university where you were accepted, would you and where?
3) How are you currently doing in it?

Thanks a lot!

[MizTEcK]

i dont think any of them check here lol...

[eliteblaze]

Schulich is EZ to get into with the right marks / ec combination. Same league as Queens, Ivey, McGill etc.

[FearSonic]

Schulich is EZ to get into with the right marks / ec combination. Same league as Queens, Ivey, McGill etc.

You'd think so, but as a mid-80s average student, right marks aren't easy to come by. Only thing helping me is extracurriculars. =(

[FearSonic]

None here? Seriously?

[Anessa]

Schulich is EZ to get into with the right marks / ec combination. Same league as Queens, Ivey, McGill etc.

Easy to get in but easy to stay in? I seriously doubt that.

[ji2o0k]

schulich grad student here..........sorry can't help with undergrad info though.......

[FearSonic]

schulich grad student here..........sorry can't help with undergrad info though.......

You think you can still answer the questions? It would be very different as to the expectations they have today, but it would be a little helpful.

[Anessa]

Just asking a few questions.

Thanks a lot!

1) Was it hard to get in? What year did you get in and what was your final average?

This is a friend of mine but her story might guide you a little. I think she had to do the supplementary applications, references and an interview? I might be wrong about the interview but I know her references were top notch...recommendations from the co-heads of science at our school. Year 2001-2002 and her average was probably 95+ (It's been a while).

2) Do you find you made the right choice? If you could go to another university where you were accepted, would you and where?

I think my friend wanted to stay close to home but go for the best business program in the GTA. Plus the IBBA and her French just went hand in hand. I belief she applied to Ivey and U of T but they were just afterthoughts.

3) How are you currently doing in it?
I think she's doing fine. First year was definitely a step up from high school and it really tests your mettle. The commuting and many many questions for Calculus and the harder marking than high school. Sometimes you discover your tried and tested methods from HS don't always deliver that A+ in university. She graduates in spring Commencement and did internships at the TTC, M of Finance and KPMG.

[FearSonic]

1) Was it hard to get in? What year did you get in and what was your final average?

This is a friend of mine but her story might guide you a little. I think she had to do the supplementary applications, references and an interview? I might be wrong about the interview but I know her references were top notch...recommendations from the co-heads of science at our school. Year 2001-2002 and her average was probably 95+ (It's been a while).

2) Do you find you made the right choice? If you could go to another university where you were accepted, would you and where?

I think my friend wanted to stay close to home but go for the best business program in the GTA. Plus the IBBA and her French just went hand in hand. I belief she applied to Ivey and U of T but they were just afterthoughts.

3) How are you currently doing in it?
I think she's doing fine. First year was definitely a step up from high school and it really tests your mettle. The commuting and many many questions for Calculus and the harder marking than high school. Sometimes you discover your tried and tested methods from HS don't always deliver that A+ in university. She graduates in spring Commencement and did internships at the TTC, M of Finance and KPMG.

Gosh 95+? I don't know how people do it. -_-

Thanks a load Anessa. =D

[Anessa]

Just do your best and maybe the admissions committee will see something in you and give you the conditional acceptance even with lower marks.

[FearSonic]

Just do your best and maybe the admissions committee will see something in you and give you the conditional acceptance even with lower marks.

I think I'm going to have to sleep with a couple of them. :lol: I'll just try my best, damn my inferior abilities. =(

[eliteblaze]

well for undergrad I don't think they look that far

It's supplementary check then it's the top xyz people are picked that passed the checked. So it's about if you're marks are higher than the other people applying

[Anessa]

I think I'm going to have to sleep with a couple of them. :lol: I'll just try my best, damn my inferior abilities. =(

It's old men and ugly women on those kinds of commitees LOL.

[FearSonic]

It's old men and ugly women on those kinds of commitees LOL.

I'm willing to take one for the team for a brighter future. HAHA. Gross. :lol:


well for undergrad I don't think they look that far

It's supplementary check then it's the top xyz people are picked that passed the checked. So it's about if you're marks are higher than the other people applying

Hopefully my supplementary check is better than others, come ONNNNN student council!

[x86asm]

The class valedictorian for my graduating year did (I believe). They certainly don't just look at your average. They look at your extra curricular activities as well (and these carry as much if not more weight). The average requirement is also chokingly high, its very competitive because it is like Ivy League (well some people say it is not as good as Western's business program).

[FearSonic]

The class valedictorian for my graduating year did (I believe). They certainly don't just look at your average. They look at your extra curricular activities as well (and these carry as much if not more weight). The average requirement is also chokingly high, its very competitive because it is like Ivy League (well some people say it is not as good as Western's business program).

I'm not class valedictorian (I can try for it.) but I hold a position on my student council. Not as great, but I had to throw something out. =( I applied to Western's business program too, but I looked at Ivey and I was wondering if it was worth it. Well, Ivey or HBA, I think it's the same, but an additionall $100 for something I'm not too sure about? Ehh.

[Anessa]

IMO, I would not bother with the undergraduate Schulich and just concentrate on getting the best marks possible in some respectable undergraduate university then go for the MBA at Rotman, Schulich, Queens, Ivey, Dalhousie, etc. I think Schulich is A LOT of stress for essentially a BBA that you could pick up from UTSC or the equvalent BComm at UTSG. I remember all of this stress over the applications and choices on that OS- something website.

[FearSonic]

IMO, I would not bother with the undergraduate Schulich and just concentrate on getting the best marks possible in some respectable undergraduate university then go for the MBA at Rotman, Schulich, Queens, Ivey, Dalhousie, etc. I think Schulich is A LOT of stress for essentially a BBA that you could pick up from UTSC or the equvalent BComm at UTSG. I remember all of this stress over the applications and choices on that OS- something website.

The real question is, could I get INTO Ivey?

My university application consisted of this:


University of Waterloo
Accounting and Financial Management - Public Accounting (Co-op only)

York University
YK:Business Administration

Queen's University
Commerce

The University of Western Ontario
MN:Administrative & Commercial Studies

University of Toronto
SC:Co-op Management

[Anessa]

Oh I mean Ivey for the MBA program. The point is that you shouldn't be so concerned about undergraduate school selection. Just get in somewhere reputable (ie NOT Ryerson) and get high grades, get a job then apply to MBA. Schulich doesn't favorite its own undergraduates in selecting MBA candidates so what's the point of freaking out now?.

[FearSonic]

Ooh, sage advice. :D Thanks a lot Anessa and everyone else in this thread. I guess that eases my mind a bit more, I still want to get into Western or Queens though. But I must bid y'all good night.. so.. good night!

[Azxster]

What's so hard to get into Schulich?

English and Calculus are your only requirements...

5 bird courses (Calc, 4 optionals)

[x86asm]

What's so hard to get into Schulich?

English and Calculus are your only requirements...

5 bird courses (Calc, 4 optionals)

:lol:

A lot more than that my friend :)

[ji2o0k]

You think you can still answer the questions? It would be very different as to the expectations they have today, but it would be a little helpful.

yeah sure I will answer the questions and hope someone finds them useful.

1) Was it hard to get in? What year did you get in and what was your final average?

I wouldn't say that the MBA graduate program at Schulich is that difficult to get into. The school states that the average GMAT score is around 660 I think but from my experience there is a range. I know people that had 580+ to people that had 700+. Most important is well-roundedness. Some people didn't score as well on the GMAT but their resumes were impressive (i.e. entrepreneur etc), or their application essays were extremely well written or their references were outstanding, or undergrads marks were outstanding. So it isn't one factor that determines whether you get in. Final average in grad school was B+/A- range, final GPA in undergrad was 3.6. Year I got in was 2004.

2) Do you find you made the right choice? If you could go to another university where you were accepted, would you and where?

Looking back I made the right choice. I applied to more than one grad school and got into all of them (i.e. Rotman, Queen's, Laurier, Dalhousie, Notre Dame in the States etc). I didn't want to go to Rotman as I did my undergrad there, so wanted to change it up plus heard so many good things about Schulich. Schulich is a very strong community oriented institution, so the faculty and students help each other and support each other, which is important to me. If I had to go somewhere, I would strongly consider Rotman. The program is so so but I heard their career centre is outstanding. Schulich is decent but from what I hear, Rotman is outstanding in that area.

3) How are you currently doing in it?

Just graduated and lined up an excellent job. Pay is competitive and got the job through the Schulich career centre. So going there definitely was worth it academically and professionally. Hope that helps ! Good luck !

[r3bell]

I wonder how well rotmanv(u of t) is rated ?

[Homer88]

I know there are a couple of Campbell alumais that go to Schulich. MSN me, i'll tell you who they are. haha. I think one of them lurks around in this forum as well

[Kurtz7834]

I have graduated from Schulich's BBA program within the past few years. I don't really want to get into mark specifics and a lot has changed since I went there but I can tell you this much:

From what I know of the program now you will need at least a high 80s to low 90s average to get 1st year acceptance. I would imagine the admissions cutoff is in the low 90s now, but I really don't know, I've been out of that scene for years. Ask your guidance counsellor, although take their advice with a grain of salt, I have been given bad advice from HS guidance counsellors.

Not all of the high schools are equal in terms of academic rigor so a mark of low 90s in a certain school may be equal to a mark of high 80s in another school. My guess is Schulich knows this. You need high marks but umpteen people have high marks, so you will need to concentrate very closely on your supp. application. You will need to impress them or set yourself apart, quite frankly. You will definitely need to have extracurricular achievements, playing sports, being involved in drama, clubs, etc. are all assets. I played sports, did extracurric. contests and was involved in drama. You do not need to be involved in student govt necessarily, which is just a popularity contest but it of course looks good if you are.

They really try and have a varied range in the classes, equal balance of men and women and they seem to try and make the classes have a racial balance too I noticed. So the class is not just full of stereotypical geeks with high grades. So I really think it is possible to have a 98 HS average and not get in. If you want a school that worships your HS marks go to U of T, Schulich needs good grades but is more open minded and creative.

I did not kind the program killer difficult but it can be very stressful. This is a YMMV type thing. It is very competitive though, probably moreso now than when I went there. If you can't handle many presentations and stuff don't bother going there. Classes are small and it's not the type of school where you just study and write exams.

For the record I do not agree with Anessa's advice to not worry about the undergrad and apply to the MBA. I would do this only if you can't get into the undergrad BBA program, this is what a lot of people end up doing.

There are a few reason for my advice:
-BBA tuition is still regulated AFAIK and affordable, last I checked MBA tuition at Schulich had gone way over $15,000 per year. I don't know the current BBA tuition but I doubt it's over $6000 a year as it is subject to York regulations
-The BBA program is small and regarded as one of the best caliber of programs in Canada. The MBA program is one of the biggest in Canada, which is not necessarily something to brag about, read between the lines.
-When I went there the rigor of the BBA courses was comparable to the MBA courses, I know because I spent time with many MBA students and had some of them in my classes
-As for pulling off high grades in Undergrad, if you couldn't do this in the last couple of years of high school, why do you think you'll be able to in Undergrad? University is much harder than high school unless you're in a very silly program.
-After 4 years of undergrad, you may well find you're sick of univ and don't ever want to go back. The reality is many, many people end up dropping out even in undergrad, don't just assume you'll have the drive to do an MBA. Life circumstances can change. Not talking about the BBA program which has a very minimal drop out rate but about university in general.

I would highly recommend the Schulich BBA program if you can squeak yourself in, it's difficult. Whether it's better than Ivey, Queens, McGill or U of T is a subjective thing. For a long time Schulich was known as the best accounting prep school in Canada, not sure if it still has that reputation. In the financial press rankings Schulich is often considered in the top 3 business schools in Canada, sometimes number 1. One international ranking put it within the top 20 schools worldwide.

Personally I went there as I wanted to stay in Toronto and commute and I liked the program better than U of T.

Good luck!

[FearSonic]

I have graduated from Schulich's BBA program within the past few years. I don't really want to get into mark specifics and a lot has changed since I went there but I can tell you this much:

From what I know of the program now you will need at least a high 80s to low 90s average to get 1st year acceptance. I would imagine the admissions cutoff is in the low 90s now, but I really don't know, I've been out of that scene for years. Ask your guidance counsellor, although take their advice with a grain of salt, I have been given bad advice from HS guidance counsellors.

Not all of the high schools are equal in terms of academic rigor so a mark of low 90s in a certain school may be equal to a mark of high 80s in another school. My guess is Schulich knows this. You need high marks but umpteen people have high marks, so you will need to concentrate very closely on your supp. application. You will need to impress them or set yourself apart, quite frankly. You will definitely need to have extracurricular achievements, playing sports, being involved in drama, clubs, etc. are all assets. I played sports, did extracurric. contests and was involved in drama. You do not need to be involved in student govt necessarily, which is just a popularity contest but it of course looks good if you are.

They really try and have a varied range in the classes, equal balance of men and women and they seem to try and make the classes have a racial balance too I noticed. So the class is not just full of stereotypical geeks with high grades. So I really think it is possible to have a 98 HS average and not get in. If you want a school that worships your HS marks go to U of T, Schulich needs good grades but is more open minded and creative.

I did not kind the program killer difficult but it can be very stressful. This is a YMMV type thing. It is very competitive though, probably moreso now than when I went there. If you can't handle many presentations and stuff don't bother going there. Classes are small and it's not the type of school where you just study and write exams.

For the record I do not agree with Anessa's advice to not worry about the undergrad and apply to the MBA. I would do this only if you can't get into the undergrad BBA program, this is what a lot of people end up doing.

There are a few reason for my advice:
-BBA tuition is still regulated AFAIK and affordable, last I checked MBA tuition at Schulich had gone way over $15,000 per year. I don't know the current BBA tuition but I doubt it's over $6000 a year as it is subject to York regulations
-The BBA program is small and regarded as one of the best caliber of programs in Canada. The MBA program is one of the biggest in Canada, which is not necessarily something to brag about, read between the lines.
-When I went there the rigor of the BBA courses was comparable to the MBA courses, I know because I spent time with many MBA students and had some of them in my classes
-As for pulling off high grades in Undergrad, if you couldn't do this in the last couple of years of high school, why do you think you'll be able to in Undergrad? University is much harder than high school unless you're in a very silly program.
-After 4 years of undergrad, you may well find you're sick of univ and don't ever want to go back. The reality is many, many people end up dropping out even in undergrad, don't just assume you'll have the drive to do an MBA. Life circumstances can change. Not talking about the BBA program which has a very minimal drop out rate but about university in general.

I would highly recommend the Schulich BBA program if you can squeak yourself in, it's difficult. Whether it's better than Ivey, Queens, McGill or U of T is a subjective thing. For a long time Schulich was known as the best accounting prep school in Canada, not sure if it still has that reputation. In the financial press rankings Schulich is often considered in the top 3 business schools in Canada, sometimes number 1. One international ranking put it within the top 20 schools worldwide.

Personally I went there as I wanted to stay in Toronto and commute and I liked the program better than U of T.

Good luck!

Thanks! More advice to listen to. I'm sure it's real competitive, but I would think working in university is a little better for me since I would HOPE the professors are complete dickwipes like some of the teachers in high school. I'm not saying I'll guarantee I work harder in university, but I'm sure when money's on the line, I'll be putting in my money's worth haha.

[commie]

I have graduated from Schulich's BBA program within the past few years. I don't really want to get into mark specifics and a lot has changed since I went there but I can tell you this much:

For the record I do not agree with Anessa's advice to not worry about the undergrad and apply to the MBA. I would do this only if you can't get into the undergrad BBA program, this is what a lot of people end up doing.

There are a few reason for my advice:
-BBA tuition is still regulated AFAIK and affordable, last I checked MBA tuition at Schulich had gone way over $15,000 per year. I don't know the current BBA tuition but I doubt it's over $6000 a year as it is subject to York regulations
-The BBA program is small and regarded as one of the best caliber of programs in Canada. The MBA program is one of the biggest in Canada, which is not necessarily something to brag about, read between the lines.
-When I went there the rigor of the BBA courses was comparable to the MBA courses, I know because I spent time with many MBA students and had some of them in my classes
-As for pulling off high grades in Undergrad, if you couldn't do this in the last couple of years of high school, why do you think you'll be able to in Undergrad? University is much harder than high school unless you're in a very silly program.
-After 4 years of undergrad, you may well find you're sick of univ and don't ever want to go back. The reality is many, many people end up dropping out even in undergrad, don't just assume you'll have the drive to do an MBA. Life circumstances can change. Not talking about the BBA program which has a very minimal drop out rate but about university in general.

I would highly recommend the Schulich BBA program if you can squeak yourself in, it's difficult. Whether it's better than Ivey, Queens, McGill or U of T is a subjective thing. For a long time Schulich was known as the best accounting prep school in Canada, not sure if it still has that reputation. In the financial press rankings Schulich is often considered in the top 3 business schools in Canada, sometimes number 1. One international ranking put it within the top 20 schools worldwide.

Personally I went there as I wanted to stay in Toronto and commute and I liked the program better than U of T.

Good luck!


Very good sound advice there...If you can get into and complete a top notch undergrad business degree, definately do that...Don't wait till the MBA. Alot of BBA/B.Comm grads have very good jobs upon graduation that they don't want or need to goto do a MBA.

I did my undergrad B.Comm at Queen's.....spent 3-4 years working as a management consulting. Then went back and do my MBA at Schulich....
What I found was material wise, my B.Comm education covered most of the materials taught in my MBA....But what the MBA gave me was the more expereinced students to network with....whereas the undergrad students were all young students....MBA students had alot of good experiences to share and network with...

You can't go wrong with any of the schools you listed....They are all hard as h2ll to get into...All very top notch b-schools...
If you are into accounting then Waterloo, Schulich, UofT will probably be better for you....
If you are into consulting or investment banking then Queen's, Ivey will be better for you...

What I found is that undergrad business programs is so much harder to get into than their MBA program.......When I went to Queen's undergrad, they would only accept 165 people into their program when more than a 1000 would apply....Schulich was the same, and Ivey didn't even have a 1st year direct entry back in the day...
While when I applied for the MBA program, it wasn't so hard to get into any program of my choice....Schulich gave me advanced standing, Ivey gave me money, and Rotman offered to accept me when I didn't even applied to them.

[FearSonic]

Very good sound advice there...If you can get into and complete a top notch undergrad business degree, definately do that...Don't wait till the MBA. Alot of BBA/B.Comm grads have very good jobs upon graduation that they don't want or need to goto do a MBA.

I did my undergrad B.Comm at Queen's.....spent 3-4 years working as a management consulting. Then went back and do my MBA at Schulich....
What I found was material wise, my B.Comm education covered most of the materials taught in my MBA....But what the MBA gave me was the more expereinced students to network with....whereas the undergrad students were all young students....MBA students had alot of good experiences to share and network with...

You can't go wrong with any of the schools you listed....They are all hard as h2ll to get into...All very top notch b-schools...
If you are into accounting then Waterloo, Schulich, UofT will probably be better for you....
If you are into consulting or investment banking then Queen's, Ivey will be better for you...

What I found is that undergrad business programs is so much harder to get into than their MBA program.......When I went to Queen's undergrad, they would only accept 165 people into their program when more than a 1000 would apply....Schulich was the same, and Ivey didn't even have a 1st year direct entry back in the day...
While when I applied for the MBA program, it wasn't so hard to get into any program of my choice....Schulich gave me advanced standing, Ivey gave me money, and Rotman offered to accept me when I didn't even applied to them.

I'm guessing you did extremely well on your undergrad?

[commie]

I'm guessing you did extremely well on your undergrad?

Quite the opposite actually....
I think I took the Queen's motto of Work Hard Play Hard too seriously and focused too much on the latter part of the hard..hahaha

I probably finished in the middle of the pack in terms of CGPA.....Although there were alot of smart and hardworking 'commies' at Queen's....Not unusual to see over 20-30 people on the dean's list(80%) in a given year....My CGPA was more in the mid 70's.....(At queen's we don't use letter grades, we use actual percentage)
But I participated in alot of extra-curricular activities, took part in the ICBC case competition, entreprenuer challenge, event plannings, etc....

When I graduated, I got multiple job offers from firms in the field of my choice(consulting) before december of my 4th year. I decided to join Deloitte Consulting(one of the Big 5 firms back then).....and as they say, the rest is history...

So here is a living proof that in terms of reaching success in life.....Having good grades is not the end all and be all....
Have a well rounded life and you will reach your goal...

[FearSonic]

Quite the opposite actually....
I think I took the Queen's motto of Work Hard Play Hard too seriously and focused too much on the latter part of the hard..hahaha

I probably finished in the middle of the pack in terms of CGPA.....Although there were alot of smart and hardworking 'commies' at Queen's....Not unusual to see over 20-30 people on the dean's list(80%) in a given year....My CGPA was more in the mid 70's.....(At queen's we don't use letter grades, we use actual percentage)
But I participated in alot of extra-curricular activities, took part in the ICBC case competition, entreprenuer challenge, event plannings, etc....

When I graduated, I got multiple job offers from firms in the field of my choice(consulting) before december of my 4th year. I decided to join Deloitte Consulting(one of the Big 5 firms back then).....and as they say, the rest is history...

So here is a living proof that in terms of reaching success in life.....Having good grades is not the end all and be all....
Have a well rounded life and you will reach your goal...

I guess I should join more extracurricular things and do the CA challenge. ;) This is gonna be fun haha.

[B40]

I think my avg was 86 or 87...I did not get into Schulich or Queens...

[reflex]

I know a 3 or 4 people that went to first year Schulich this year. They're from my school, Woburn CI, it's a gifted school. A few people I know are also applying this year. Personally, I'm applying for life sciences at various universities. Interested in medicine! w00t!

[liquid_paper]

i'm a fourth year student from schulich...so here's my advice...

if you know what profession you want to go into upon graduation this will help in the decision making...(i'm going the accounting CA route so schulich was a great choice for myself!)...

basically if you want finance and investment banking...steer clear of schulich and go to queens and western which finance companies pounce on...that being said...if you are a "top of the class" type student then you'll still land a job...i have 4 friends that all got into ibanking...with rbc capital...td waterhouse...and teacher's pension...starting salaries $65k + bonus (which essentially makes this a 6 figure job for them (knock on wood))...expect roughly 6 of these top jobs annually from schulich grads...compared to higher figures for queens and ivey...

if you want to go into accounting...schulich is definetly top notch...they are one of the more heavily recruited schools in this profession alongside waterloo's accounting program and ut...this is the stream i'm in...and of the 100 or so accounting majors at schulich...i would say a good chunk roughly 70% have landed jobs at the big 4 accounting firms (deloitte, kpmg, e&y, and pwc)...

as to the marks...i got in with an 88.9% gpa out of high school...with a ton of extracurrics...like executive positions on athletic council...coach of a volleyball team...a senior athletic letter...and captain of my high schools volleyball team...

now getting into schulich i hear is a lot harder these days...back in my year...you could get in with an 86%...now i hear it is low to mid 90's...but once you are in...it is next to impossible to fail out...you must be a complete idiot...as you only have to maintain a c average...roughly a 60%...and almost all courses work on a bell curve of a b average...so to essentially fail you'd have to be the dumbest kid in every class....=P...ahaha...highly unlikely...

but definetely extracurrics are important...and are weighed 50% with marks...one of my profs is on the admissions board...so basically even if you had an 88% average like me...but made up for it with a bunch of extracurrics there is a high probability you'd get in...as long as you highlighted these aspects in your admissions essays...

a good thing about schulich too is that they don't care how many times you retake a course...they'll take your highest mark....so when i was in high school i only received a 63% in finite the first time...retook it in night school and got a 95%...they used my 95% in calculating my top 6...whereas a school like queens would take the average of the 2...

in terms of reputation...it has always been western #1...schulich and ut #2 in canada...often switching places...queens and the rest are lightyears behind in the rankings by all major business journals/newspapers...

finally in terms of cost...schulich is by far the cheapest...at roughly $4800 a year in tuition...compared to $8000 for ut and $14000 for the final 2 years of western ivey...that's major savings for a top notch school!

[FearSonic]

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Thank you for the very, very informative post! I do have quite a few extracurricular activities which I will be sure to highlight, and that highest mark thing sounds awesome. My calc mark this year is much better than the first time around. My data management is going up too at least. Phew. Just english. =(

[gamer123]

I am doing pretty bad with calc and discrete, only around 80. Of course I'll still finish it, but I considered retaking either one next semester. Cause usually people get higher mark when taking the course 2nd time, seeing how they know the stuff already.

But should I? Cause guidance also mentioned that I might not be able to do so during day school, only nightschool. 3.5hrs, 2 times a week, for the entire semester. That's pretty tough, along with my 4 other courses next semester - Internation Business, Internation Study, Accounting and English.

Seeing how I can't get into Schulich, I am actually more interested UofT. Accounting w/ coop @ mid-80s.

[pirate]

i'm a fourth year student from schulich...so here's my advice...

if you know what profession you want to go into upon graduation this will help in the decision making...(i'm going the accounting CA route so schulich was a great choice for myself!)...

basically if you want finance and investment banking...steer clear of schulich and go to queens and western which finance companies pounce on...that being said...if you are a "top of the class" type student then you'll still land a job...i have 4 friends that all got into ibanking...with rbc capital...td waterhouse...and teacher's pension...starting salaries $65k + bonus (which essentially makes this a 6 figure job for them (knock on wood))...expect roughly 6 of these top jobs annually from schulich grads...compared to higher figures for queens and ivey...

if you want to go into accounting...schulich is definetly top notch...they are one of the more heavily recruited schools in this profession alongside waterloo's accounting program and ut...this is the stream i'm in...and of the 100 or so accounting majors at schulich...i would say a good chunk roughly 70% have landed jobs at the big 4 accounting firms (deloitte, kpmg, e&y, and pwc)...

as to the marks...i got in with an 88.9% gpa out of high school...with a ton of extracurrics...like executive positions on athletic council...coach of a volleyball team...a senior athletic letter...and captain of my high schools volleyball team...

now getting into schulich i hear is a lot harder these days...back in my year...you could get in with an 86%...now i hear it is low to mid 90's...but once you are in...it is next to impossible to fail out...you must be a complete idiot...as you only have to maintain a c average...roughly a 60%...and almost all courses work on a bell curve of a b average...so to essentially fail you'd have to be the dumbest kid in every class....=P...ahaha...highly unlikely...

but definetely extracurrics are important...and are weighed 50% with marks...one of my profs is on the admissions board...so basically even if you had an 88% average like me...but made up for it with a bunch of extracurrics there is a high probability you'd get in...as long as you highlighted these aspects in your admissions essays...

a good thing about schulich too is that they don't care how many times you retake a course...they'll take your highest mark....so when i was in high school i only received a 63% in finite the first time...retook it in night school and got a 95%...they used my 95% in calculating my top 6...whereas a school like queens would take the average of the 2...

in terms of reputation...it has always been western #1...schulich and ut #2 in canada...often switching places...queens and the rest are lightyears behind in the rankings by all major business journals/newspapers...

finally in terms of cost...schulich is by far the cheapest...at roughly $4800 a year in tuition...compared to $8000 for ut and $14000 for the final 2 years of western ivey...that's major savings for a top notch school!

are laurier and McMaster and U of T also good for investment banking and finance?

[commie]

[QUOTE=liquid_paper]in terms of reputation...it has always been western #1...schulich and ut #2 in canada...often switching places...queens and the rest are lightyears behind in the rankings by all major business journals/newspapers...

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If this is for an undergraduate business degree I would highly dispute that claim....
Queen's B.Comm is commonly recognized as the first and best undergrad business program in Canada. There is a reason why the top notch ibank and consulting firms recruite heavily at that school. And I am not talking about RBC, TD Securities, or CIBC.....I am talking about the Lehman Brothers, Smith Barney, Morgan Stanley's of the world ,the firms from wall street, not bay street...

But one cannot go wrong with any of Ivey, Queen's, or Schulich for their undergrad business degree......

[masterhapposai]

I think I'm going to have to sleep with a couple of them. :lol: I'll just try my best, damn my inferior abilities. =(

has nothing to do with ability. it's all about how much time you want to put into reading outdated texts, memorizing, and if you enjoy that sort of thing

there is no "skill" in memorizing. it's just a case of whether you want to or not.

[Bopperland]

None here? Seriously?

The Bopper graduated from the York's Business School back in the 70's, before it was rechristened Schulich. At that time, they only took a max of 120 students a year. We've done OK, heh...

[liquid_paper]

If this is for an undergraduate business degree I would highly dispute that claim....
Queen's B.Comm is commonly recognized as the first and best undergrad business program in Canada. There is a reason why the top notch ibank and consulting firms recruite heavily at that school. And I am not talking about RBC, TD Securities, or CIBC.....I am talking about the Lehman Brothers, Smith Barney, Morgan Stanley's of the world ,the firms from wall street, not bay street...

But one cannot go wrong with any of Ivey, Queen's, or Schulich for their undergrad business degree......

these are mba rankings actually...as undergraduate programs unfortunetly are not ranked...however mba rankings are typically a good indication of bba/bcom programs as a majority of the professors who teach the mba courses also teach the bbas/bcoms...

and i have no doubt that queen's b.comm is highly touted...as i mentioned queens and ivey are definetely better choices for bankers and finance majors...as they are heavily recruited and have built up a solid reputation...

but if you are going for accounting...schulich and waterloo i would say have the most distinguished programs...why else is the SOA held at york...not to mention most of the schulich accounting profs are the ones who are in charge and/or teach the courses for the SOA....

[liquid_paper]

are laurier and McMaster and U of T also good for investment banking and finance?

i'm not in ibanking or finance so i rather not give my opinion...however my friends who are...constantly sigh at the number of ivey students they are always interviewing against...and never mention these other schools...

uoft would get some recognition...but simply because of its proximity to bay street...and also because of the size...and the school's name...laurier and mcmaster seem to be small market schools...and i think mcmaster is only really known for their med school...degroote does not come close to richard ivey or queens...and laurier i think is just mini waterloo...with a pretty decent football team...ahaha...(sorry...hope i haven't offended anyone)...

then again...if you can use a fork you can go to york!

[FearSonic]

then again...if you can use a fork you can go to york!

I wish there was a rhyme for Schulich...

If you can stick your finger in your nose and pick, you can attend Schulich?

Yeah, that doesn't work.

[Homer88]

If you can suck and lick, you can go to Schlich! :lol:

[peoplearestupid]

Ha ha ha - if you want a good B-School education then go to Ivey at UWO

[liquid_paper]

If you can suck and lick, you can go to Schlich! :lol:

hey stop dissing up us shoelickers...ahaha...

[eliteblaze]

Except Ivey has a greater % of students finding careers in ibaking and consulting for the past 3 years or more.

We're talking about the top 5 in each category.

BtW what % of Queens students went to Wall Street aka New York ;)

No business school in Canada has a significant amount of recruitment from New York because HBS, Wharton, Yale etc. Some consulting firms even snub MIT :o


[QUOTE=liquid_paper]in terms of reputation...it has always been western #1...schulich and ut #2 in canada...often switching places...queens and the rest are lightyears behind in the rankings by all major business journals/newspapers...

QUOTE]

If this is for an undergraduate business degree I would highly dispute that claim....
Queen's B.Comm is commonly recognized as the first and best undergrad business program in Canada. There is a reason why the top notch ibank and consulting firms recruite heavily at that school. And I am not talking about RBC, TD Securities, or CIBC.....I am talking about the Lehman Brothers, Smith Barney, Morgan Stanley's of the world ,the firms from wall street, not bay street...

But one cannot go wrong with any of Ivey, Queen's, or Schulich for their undergrad business degree......

[FearSonic]

If you can suck and lick, you can go to Schlich! :lol:

BRILLIANT!

[RastaManMax]

Just remember never consider Waterloo. The only important thing to remember in life:

everything > Waterloo.

LEMAR

[FearSonic]

Just remember never consider Waterloo. The only important thing to remember in life:

everything > Waterloo.

LEMAR

Haha, I think you've told me that before, but any particular reasons why you would take say.. Pile of Dung University over Waterloo?

[commie]

Except Ivey has a greater % of students finding careers in ibaking and consulting for the past 3 years or more.

We're talking about the top 5 in each category.

BtW what % of Queens students went to Wall Street aka New York ;)

No business school in Canada has a significant amount of recruitment from New York because HBS, Wharton, Yale etc. Some consulting firms even snub MIT :o

[QUOTE=commie]

What % of the undergrad HBA students from Ivey went to ibanking and consulting in the last 3 years? According to the Queen's website, the 2005 grad year, 10% of class went into consulting, and 27% went into finance(probably not all are ibank...some are corporate finance)..

I am not sure about right now...But when I graduated there was at least 5 grads that went to work for Wall Street......plus 1 friend went to work in Boston,,,...and another person went to San Fran to work in ibank firms...
So that is not bad record for a canadian university with a class size of about 160 students......Most of the big name wall street firms recruit each year at queens as well...

Besides the ibank/consulting field.....consistently Queen's commerce grads get recruited at Advertising firms like Satachi&Satchi and Leo Burnett...How many business schools have recruitments with those firms??

The grads also get into the CA firms even though the program does not offer all the accounting courses....

So i would say the undergrad B.Comm program is fairly well balanced in career options....And is not 'Lightyears' behind Ivey/Schulich/Rotman...

[commie]

these are mba rankings actually...as undergraduate programs unfortunetly are not ranked...however mba rankings are typically a good indication of bba/bcom programs as a majority of the professors who teach the mba courses also teach the bbas/bcoms...

and i have no doubt that queen's b.comm is highly touted...as i mentioned queens and ivey are definetely better choices for bankers and finance majors...as they are heavily recruited and have built up a solid reputation...

but if you are going for accounting...schulich and waterloo i would say have the most distinguished programs...why else is the SOA held at york...not to mention most of the schulich accounting profs are the ones who are in charge and/or teach the courses for the SOA....

Magazine rankings are not really crediable...As you can find any university will have some strong rankings in one magazine or the other....It just depends on how they conducted the survey...

Check BusinessWeek out, they have Queen's MBA and E-MBA as #1 in Canada....But if you look at Economist, Schulich is ahead.....and if you look at another magazine...its Ivey....and so on and so on...

I am a Schulich alumni as well as Queen's....and I find both to be excellent B-School.....Just that each school has its own area of excellence....

No doubt Schulich excels in Accounting.....
Have you had the chance to take any accounting courses with Al Rosen?
He is a very tough prof...But probably one of the better profs in any university and subject.....Learnt a great deal from him.....
Another good Schulich prof is Alan Middleton.....Even if you are not majoring in Marketing...You should definately take his course...

[eliteblaze]

For Ivey's class size of 232 in 2005: according to http://www.ivey.uwo.ca/recruiter/Reports/HBA2005permanentNEW.htm

22% accepted offers in investment banks
20% accepted offers in accounting firms.
19% accepted offers in consulting firms.
7% accepted offers in other finance organizations.

As a reminder: Statistically it could just mean more Ivey students are intersted in consulting/i-banking or that Queens students have other career interests and have turned down offers.

Hell no would Queen's be lightyears behind... ever :) Some named faculty at top business schools in fact feels Ivey/Queens/Schulich is lightyears ahead of Michigan's Ross School of Business. I agree most undergrad schools are a good choice. Queens has the highest average undergraduate salary without bonuses considered althrough it has less placement at 87% than before salaries jumped.

I'm just saying people at Ivey tend to go into consulting/ibanking in comparative %s - so you can find jobs in the field at either school, supposedly.

Well the top 1% get to New York or such for ibanking or Boston for consulting at top Canadian undergrad schools but it's not like HBS where the top 25% are wined and dined by various top 3 firms.

Have to say tho - Check out schulich's consulting placement ;) 1% in 2003 !!!! tho went up to 5% in 2004 - Keep in mind Queens/Ivey never had 1% placement in consulting ... ever.


[QUOTE=eliteblaze]Except Ivey has a greater % of students finding careers in ibaking and consulting for the past 3 years or more.

We're talking about the top 5 in each category.

BtW what % of Queens students went to Wall Street aka New York ;)

No business school in Canada has a significant amount of recruitment from New York because HBS, Wharton, Yale etc. Some consulting firms even snub MIT :o

For CA I think Queens would be a better choice - no argument there.

What % of the undergrad HBA students from Ivey went to ibanking and consulting in the last 3 years? According to the Queen's website, the 2005 grad year, 10% of class went into consulting, and 27% went into finance(probably not all are ibank...some are corporate finance)..

I am not sure about right now...But when I graduated there was at least 5 grads that went to work for Wall Street......plus 1 friend went to work in Boston,,,...and another person went to San Fran to work in ibank firms...
So that is not bad record for a canadian university with a class size of about 160 students......Most of the big name wall street firms recruit each year at queens as well...

Besides the ibank/consulting field.....consistently Queen's commerce grads get recruited at Advertising firms like Satachi&Satchi and Leo Burnett...How many business schools have recruitments with those firms??

The grads also get into the CA firms even though the program does not offer all the accounting courses....

So i would say the undergrad B.Comm program is fairly well balanced in career options....And is not 'Lightyears' behind Ivey/Schulich/Rotman...

[commie]

For Ivey's class size of 232 in 2005: according to http://www.ivey.uwo.ca/recruiter/Reports/HBA2005permanentNEW.htm

22% accepted offers in investment banks
20% accepted offers in accounting firms.
19% accepted offers in consulting firms.
7% accepted offers in other finance organizations.

As a reminder: Statistically it could just mean more Ivey students are intersted in consulting/i-banking or that Queens students have other career interests and have turned down offers.

Hell no would Queen's be lightyears behind... ever :) Some named faculty at top business schools in fact feels Ivey/Queens/Schulich is lightyears ahead of Michigan's Ross School of Business. I agree most undergrad schools are a good choice. Queens has the highest average undergraduate salary without bonuses considered althrough it has less placement at 87% than before salaries jumped.

I'm just saying people at Ivey tend to go into consulting/ibanking in comparative %s - so you can find jobs in the field at either school, supposedly.

Well the top 1% get to New York or such for ibanking or Boston for consulting at top Canadian undergrad schools but it's not like HBS where the top 25% are wined and dined by various top 3 firms.

Have to say tho - Check out schulich's consulting placement ;) 1% in 2003 !!!! tho went up to 5% in 2004 - Keep in mind Queens/Ivey never had 1% placement in consulting ... ever.

[QUOTE=commie]

Those are pretty good stats.....
Starting salary has sure gone up dramatically......There should be no complains for anyone in any of those 3 schools...

I was browsing through Queen's stats....http://business.queensu.ca/careers/docs/October2005FinalEmploymentResults.pdf

and in the finance section, they show the Max was $150,000...
Is that for real? or did someone BS that figure..
Who would in their right mind offer some undergrad 150K starting?

[eliteblaze]

Well from what I hear at Queens there are many sons of CEO/Founders. My friend personally met the son of Laidlaw CEO so statistically there's a good chance that a lot of well connected individuals are at Queens. Therefore, a founder paying his son/daugther $150,000 to start seems possible. That's higher that most MBA studnets get paid tho so even if JPMorgan/BCG really wanted a student I'm not sure who'd start an undergraduate off as a senior consultant or senior investment banker. Not to mention those positions include significant bonuses at the senior level - insane %s at i-banking so considering it excludes bonsues/signing bonuses.. I think we can rule out the top 2 paying industries.

Other than the conencted theory I'm going to say it's private equity placement based on what I know is in the top 3 sectors with consulting and ibanking. Most private equity are of course private companies that could possibly pay someone that much - if their truly exceptionally at finding buyout targets etc..

*shrugs* myself I"m just trying to get started so I won't be seeing those numbers anytime soon - maybe in 7 years! lol

[commie]

Well from what I hear at Queens there are many sons of CEO/Founders. My friend personally met the son of Laidlaw CEO so statistically there's a good chance that a lot of well connected individuals are at Queens. Therefore, a founder paying his son/daugther $150,000 to start seems possible. That's higher that most MBA studnets get paid tho so even if JPMorgan/BCG really wanted a student I'm not sure who'd start an undergraduate off as a senior consultant or senior investment banker. Not to mention those positions include significant bonuses at the senior level - insane %s at i-banking so considering it excludes bonsues/signing bonuses.. I think we can rule out the top 2 paying industries.

i guess that can be the case...forgot about those sons of excutives..
When i was there,...we had the son of a high level VP at Sony in our class.

Agree, it won't be any of the ibank/consulting firms offering 150K...even if its the top student....they don't want to disrupt their strict salary structure..

I still think sometimes these salary surveys are not accurate, as grads coulds overstate what they got offer, or don't even fill it out...

How's the recruiting situation at Schulich? That was the biggest complain when I did my mba there....People always complain about their career center..But looking at the graduation surveys....They don't look that bad? in 2002 it says the average Ibanking salary for MBA's are over 200K, with the max at 400K? That appears high for Associate IBankers? no?

[Bopperland]

If this is for an undergraduate business degree I would highly dispute that claim....
Queen's B.Comm is commonly recognized as the first and best undergrad business program in Canada. There is a reason why the top notch ibank and consulting firms recruite heavily at that school. And I am not talking about RBC, TD Securities, or CIBC.....I am talking about the Lehman Brothers, Smith Barney, Morgan Stanley's of the world ,the firms from wall street, not bay street...

But one cannot go wrong with any of Ivey, Queen's, or Schulich for their undergrad business degree......

....Schulich is recognized as the top business school in Canada and one of the top 3 in non-US universities. Who says? Forbes. Wall Street Journal.

http://www.schulich.yorku.ca/ssb-extra/ssb.nsf?open

Back up your "facts"...

[eliteblaze]

First those are MBA rankings. And second no one would considre Schulich better than Harvard Business School and Wharton. Harvard lashed out last time Schulich tried to exert that. That's insane.

http://www.careerjournal.com/reports/bschool05/glance/20040922-topinternational.html

Their methalogy is sketchy.

Each school wins rankings. Strangely enough from your wallstreet post looks at this:

In The Wall Street Journal’s 2006 MBA survey, Ivey ranked # 6 worldwide in attracting international recruiters and # 1 in Canada. To be ranked in this category, Ivey demonstrated that its student recruitment market has gained both depth and breadth over the past year, attracting recruiters from at least four countries who ranked Ivey’s graduates among their top 10 choices. In fact, responses from Ivey recruiters spanned eight countries, placing Ivey in the company of international schools such as LBS and INSEAD. Schulich, at York University, was the only other Canadian business school recognized in the rankings, placing 15th.

[commie]

....Schulich is recognized as the top business school in Canada and one of the top 3 in non-US universities. Who says? Forbes. Wall Street Journal.

http://www.schulich.yorku.ca/ssb-extra/ssb.nsf?open

Back up your "facts"...

not even considering that all those rankings are for MBA and not the undergrad program.
I like said in another post.....Recognized by who? EAch magazine does its rankings differently and have different results...Who to believe?

According to BusinessWeek, Queen's is #1...see this link:

http://business.queensu.ca/
here is an excerpt of the article:

"2005-10-14 - Late Thursday, October 13, 2005, BusinessWeek magazine ranked Queen’s School of Business #1 in Canada for both its executive MBA program and its open enrollment executive education programs. This comes just one year after the influential business publication ranked Queen’s #1 among international full-time MBA programs. In addition to leading the nation in all three programs, Queen’s has also placed well internationally, scoring #10 in the world for open enrollment executive education and #21 in the world for executive MBA. "


What is a better indication of the quality of the b-school is through its recruitments by Corporations.....and how well the alumni's are doing after they graduate....

BTW - I am an alumni with both Queen's and Schulich, so I am not saying one is better than the other....I just find that magazine rankings of universities to be too subjective....

[liquid_paper]

....Schulich is recognized as the top business school in Canada and one of the top 3 in non-US universities. Who says? Forbes. Wall Street Journal.

http://www.schulich.yorku.ca/ssb-extra/ssb.nsf?open

Back up your "facts"...

ahaha..don't use the stats taken off our website...its sheer propoganda by our dean...(which is why he also was ranked number one dean in 2004)...

what our dean does is take obscure rankings in different categories so say we were 4th in category A and harvard was 6th...then we were 80th in category W and harvard was 100th...and in category B harvard was 2nd and schulich was 13...well....4 + 80 + 13 > 6 + 100 + 2 hence schulich is ranked above harvard...ahaha...

but commie is right...all those rankings mean nothing unless you see where they originated from...though schulich still places among the top 3 canadian schools in every single business press which says alot about our program...

[liquid_paper]

No doubt Schulich excels in Accounting.....
Have you had the chance to take any accounting courses with Al Rosen?
He is a very tough prof...But probably one of the better profs in any university and subject.....Learnt a great deal from him.....
Another good Schulich prof is Alan Middleton.....Even if you are not majoring in Marketing...You should definately take his course...

al rosen left teaching the year before i entered...so luckily i did not have to endure his wrath...though we still hear about him all the time in his globe and mail adventures with his son...and every single course kit has at least one of his articles in them...

sadly...he most feared current accounting prof in schulich is gail drory...

i don't believe alan middleton is around either anymore...but elizabeth farrell and kevin markle sure seem to have quite the following....

[Eazy E]

are laurier and McMaster and U of T also good for investment banking and finance?

I'm a Laurier grad in Economics ('96). I believe that WLU is stronger in ibanking and finance than when I was there.

When I was in between jobs last year, I attended a Fidelity job fair for Analyst/Associate positions in Boston and because this job fair catered specifically to WLU students/grads, they flew up five or six alumni to talk to us. I was surprised to find out that there are a fair number of Laurier grads working in Boston and with Fidelity, in particular; fair, relative to the size of the school.

I don't believe that it really matters which undergrad school you go to; it's what you do with your education, and your work experience, that matters.

[commie]

al rosen left teaching the year before i entered...so luckily i did not have to endure his wrath...though we still hear about him all the time in his globe and mail adventures with his son...and every single course kit has at least one of his articles in them...

sadly...he most feared current accounting prof in schulich is gail drory...

i don't believe alan middleton is around either anymore...but elizabeth farrell and kevin markle sure seem to have quite the following....


Lucky you...missing out on Rosen's performances...hahaha
Too bad about Middleton being gone...i took his strategic marketing course, and even though I have no interest/background in marketing...He really made the course interesting and relevant.....

Is Kelly Lecouvie still teaching Strategy there? She was our Faculty Adviser for our 601 strategy field study....What a briatch she was...hahaha


So you must've started at Schulich around 2003???
Lucky you again, missing out on the old Faculty of Admin. Studies building....
I was there for their last year before the new building.....
Misses those lunch breaks at The Financial Post......the Super Pub Nights, etc...good times...

When I walk into the new Schulich building....it just doesn't have the same cosy feeling as the old building.....Not as ghetto as before...hahaha

[7jai]

I never understand why everyone is always so worked up in "TRYING to get in" to these specialized university schools that much. I mean, honestly you should be focusing on HOW you are going to maintain the marks WHEN you are inside the school, because it's gonna be even 50x harder than it was before. More competition, more cut-throat profs.

[e-man]

Lucky you...missing out on Rosen's performances...hahaha
Too bad about Middleton being gone...i took his strategic marketing course, and even though I have no interest/background in marketing...He really made the course interesting and relevant.....

Is Kelly Lecouvie still teaching Strategy there? She was our Faculty Adviser for our 601 strategy field study....What a briatch she was...hahaha


So you must've started at Schulich around 2003???
Lucky you again, missing out on the old Faculty of Admin. Studies building....
I was there for their last year before the new building.....
Misses those lunch breaks at The Financial Post......the Super Pub Nights, etc...good times...

When I walk into the new Schulich building....it just doesn't have the same cosy feeling as the old building.....Not as ghetto as before...hahaha

I went to Schulich and was working there when it first became Schulich (back in the FAS days).

I used to work with Rosen's son. He was a REALLY smart guy. I never took any accounting classes, but Rosen was the most feared prof in the place. Al Rosen is actually a decent guy, but he's a hard- ***** when it comes to work-related stuff.

It's unfortunate what happened to Peter Zarry. He used to yell at me and stuff but I had the utmost respect for him. In case you didn't know, he used to play for the Argos.

I was there when Middleton was still a Phd student. He was super-popular because he was such a nice guy.

And I ran the Poste in my final year of Undergrad. That was a BLAST. Best experience ever.

[commie]

I went to Schulich and was working there when it first became Schulich (back in the FAS days).

I used to work with Rosen's son. He was a REALLY smart guy. I never took any accounting classes, but Rosen was the most feared prof in the place. Al Rosen is actually a decent guy, but he's a hard- ***** when it comes to work-related stuff.

It's unfortunate what happened to Peter Zarry. He used to yell at me and stuff but I had the utmost respect for him. In case you didn't know, he used to play for the Argos.

I was there when Middleton was still a Phd student. He was super-popular because he was such a nice guy.

And I ran the Poste in my final year of Undergrad. That was a BLAST. Best experience ever.

What year did you graduate in? 97-99???time frame?
I didn't mind Rosen....He was tough, unreasonable....but he knows his shiat,...and can learn alot from him..

Yep the Poste was amazing........I was there for MBA...and still had a great time....i bet for undergrads 4 years would've been even better...
As a MBAers...my buddies used to go to the pub nights for the undergrad events, as some of them were BBA grads, so they know whats happening at Schulich.........those pub nights were great.......BBA events were some much funnier than MBA's.......plus the chicks in BBA were much cuter than MBA's..

Still remember the end of year pub night at the poste....think they called it the Super Pub night??? it was on a thursday night in April when all the examas were done......Our 601 group were working late getting ready for a phase presentation.....then decided to crash the BBA's pub night...around 11pmish....hehehe....one of my friends still had his BBA student card...used that to get us in...hahaha
But some of those young'uns needs to learn how to hold in those drinks....by the end of the night...guys were sleeping on the hallways...puke was all over the hallways......good times...

[e-man]

What year did you graduate in? 97-99???time frame?
I didn't mind Rosen....He was tough, unreasonable....but he knows his shiat,...and can learn alot from him..

Yep the Poste was amazing........I was there for MBA...and still had a great time....i bet for undergrads 4 years would've been even better...
As a MBAers...my buddies used to go to the pub nights for the undergrad events, as some of them were BBA grads, so they know whats happening at Schulich.........those pub nights were great.......BBA events were some much funnier than MBA's.......plus the chicks in BBA were much cuter than MBA's..

Still remember the end of year pub night at the poste....think they called it the Super Pub night??? it was on a thursday night in April when all the examas were done......Our 601 group were working late getting ready for a phase presentation.....then decided to crash the BBA's pub night...around 11pmish....hehehe....one of my friends still had his BBA student card...used that to get us in...hahaha
But some of those young'uns needs to learn how to hold in those drinks....by the end of the night...guys were sleeping on the hallways...puke was all over the hallways......good times...


97-99? no no..before that...ain't tellin' when, but before that...

[FearSonic]

Super Pub nights? I'm so down for that. :)

[pirate]

do universities look at your grade 11 marks as well as grade 12