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jdi_knght
Jan 15th, 2006, 03:17 PM
This isn't exactly a one time deal or anything, but still pretty amazing. When I was looking for glasses in Winnipeg, I was finding I would probably have to spend at least $150-$200 for a basic pair (even Walmart was $25 for the frames + $135 for basic lenses). I came across a few online sites and the price difference just blew my mind, so I thought I'd share them.

All the prices are in USD, but after exchange, the cheapest sites come to around $30 CDN after shipping which isn't too bad. Those are for single-vision lenses. Bifocals, trifocals, etc would be more.

Goggles4u
http://www.shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=49699&u=110786&m=9118&urllink=&afftrack= - frames&lenses are $26. Free worldwide shipping.

Optical4less
http://www.shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=19045&u=110786&m=5182&urllink=&afftrack= - frames&lenses from $29 + $8 shipping to Canada.

39 Dollar Glasses
http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-749547-8351120 - frames&lenses from $39 + $8 shipping to Canada.

Zenni Optical
http://www.zennioptical.com - frames&lenses from $19 + $9 shipping to Canada.
Quick note: Feb 2009. I've been getting a lot of complaints on the EGRR site (http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/zenni-optical.html) about people not having received their orders from Zenni. I'd probably recommend hanging off on them for now. I'll update this when everything gets sorted out one way or the other.

ClearlyContacts.ca
http://www.clearlycontacts.ca - frames&lenses from $38. Canadian company. They used to sell contacts only, but have recently extended to sell glasses as well. Total price showing up was $49.85, so I'm assuming it's $11.85 for shipping.

There might be some duty, as Zenni and 39dollar are both in the US, Goggles4u is in Pakistan, and Optical4less in China. Edit: I and many others have not been charged duty, as prescription glasses appear to be exempt. Also, clearly contacts obviously shouldn't have any duty since they're Canadian-based.

I placed orders with 39dollarglasses and with goggles4u, but they haven't come in yet. If anyone's interested I'll post with my experiences when they come in. Edit: Placed orders with both as well as others. Have pictures and experiences listed on my site (links below).

Edit:
RFD affiliate links added. Also feel free to check out a site I created some time ago where I review these retailers and various others:
http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/
Also a contact lens retailer review site. Doesn't have any purchase experiences yet (although I have bought from one of them so far):
http://www.contactlensretailerreviews.com/

jadoocian
Jan 15th, 2006, 03:29 PM
yes please post your experiences. thanks

Casper
Jan 15th, 2006, 04:04 PM
I am very VERY pleased with my Zenni optical glasses.
I figured, hey, for $39US (for the titanium frames with non-glare and anti-scratch), i'd take the chance.
Glasses arrived in about 6 days to my US address. EXACTLY as ordered. Very nice build quality. I am far more impressed with these than my last hakim optical $270 pair. They rival my pair of nikon $600 ones. I was never satisfied with the hakim ones...I had to go back 4 times, since they kept losing their adjustments.
The zenni ones came almost perfectly adjusted, and stayed that way.
I am about to order a couple more.

thendless
Jan 15th, 2006, 04:05 PM
Just curious as to how high the compression is for 1.56 index, I have no clue what my current glasses are, I have a pretty bad prescription (-7.50) so just curious about how high of compression 1.56 index is.

turanuk
Jan 15th, 2006, 04:39 PM
I'm curious also...I'm in the -5 range in one eye and i have astigmatism....are these thin lenses? I notice they don't have an option too add thin lenses either (at least on zenni).

nm: answered my own question:

http://www.vision3k.com/prescription_details.html

KAN
Jan 15th, 2006, 04:42 PM
I have -10 glasses. I usually get 1.6 index. Those are glass. The maximum for plastics lenses is 1.56 I think. Of course, the ideal pair would be in diamond: 2.56 or something. Only one slight problem: the PRICE TAG. :D

Ok well, looking at your post, I guess I have to edit mine. My indexes are not in the right range.

Maybe I have to add 20% to account for the exchange rates ? (joke)

Actually, maybe htey have come up with better materials. Maybe the highest plastic was 1.56, now they have found 1.61. anyhow, get the highest your money can buy, the thinner they are. For 8 and above, it's worth the money. since they are lighter.

evoviii
Jan 15th, 2006, 04:44 PM
optical deals are definitely what i'm in need for, another other opinions on these. Unfortunately for me, i have poor judgement when it comes to frames.

Coolme
Jan 15th, 2006, 04:45 PM
lol, I know nothing about glass, except that I wear them, and I need new ones. So basically do I just get one of those free eye exam and just select what I need? Is there anything technicial info that I should be aware about getting these glasses? I am asking a lot of questions cause I don't think the person doing the free eye exam will answer any of them. Also I hope this will answer questions that other people like me have in mind.

Thanks.

KAN
Jan 15th, 2006, 04:54 PM
I am very VERY pleased with my Zenni optical glasses.
I figured, hey, for $39US (for the titanium frames with non-glare and anti-scratch), i'd take the chance.
Glasses arrived in about 6 days to my US address. EXACTLY as ordered. Very nice build quality. I am far more impressed with these than my last hakim optical $270 pair. They rival my pair of nikon $600 ones. I was never satisfied with the hakim ones...I had to go back 4 times, since they kept losing their adjustments.
The zenni ones came almost perfectly adjusted, and stayed that way.
I am about to order a couple more.

Do you have to send in some measures of your face ? Like how far are your eyes apart and stuff ? How do they do the fitting ? Do they accept prescription from a canadian optician ?

babs00
Jan 15th, 2006, 05:04 PM
That's pretty impressive and helpful after I just paid over $200 for my glasses last month. Won't hurt to have a second pair in case one I forget at work. I like 39dollar... website, one can have a sample of picture as to one's face (round,square) and better variety.

I'm conspicous of Pakistan and China websites that how they afford to include free shipping with only $19 glasses ?

How much do you think the duty would be from US for 39dollar.. and will UPS charge any transaction processing fees ?

babs00
Jan 15th, 2006, 05:06 PM
One more question, on my existing glasses on the side it mentions 51 18 135, is that the same as on website for height, bridge, length etc.

Mr. Bean
Jan 15th, 2006, 05:08 PM
Do you have to send in some measures of your face ? Like how far are your eyes apart and stuff ? How do they do the fitting ? Do they accept prescription from a canadian optician ?

Good question I'd like to know as well.

Because whenever you buy a pair of glasses they always measure the distance between your eyes or something with some contraption.

" Look into the light..."

Also, would these glasses be covered by Extended health benefits (ie. those provided by work?)

thendless
Jan 15th, 2006, 05:15 PM
On googles4u they say that the lens is : "CR39 Material High Index Lenses with antiglare, UV, and Scratch Free Coating" however on turanuk's link http://www.vision3k.com/prescription_details.html there are several types of CR39 lens with different indexes (1.50, 1.56, 1.67) im guessing its 1.50, and if it is, it'd be better to go with zenni since its 1.56 there (if you have a really high prescription like me)

deals4j
Jan 15th, 2006, 05:26 PM
I have -10 glasses. I usually get 1.6 index. Those are glass. The maximum for plastics lenses is 1.56 I think. Of course, the ideal pair would be in diamond: 2.56 or something. Only one slight problem: the PRICE TAG. :D

Ok well, looking at your post, I guess I have to edit mine. My indexes are not in the right range.

Maybe I have to add 20% to account for the exchange rates ? (joke)

Actually, maybe htey have come up with better materials. Maybe the highest plastic was 1.56, now they have found 1.61. anyhow, get the highest your money can buy, the thinner they are. For 8 and above, it's worth the money. since they are lighter.

My glasses are 1.74 and they're plastic. Nikon 5 lenses. Pretty expensive though, but well worth it. Not sure if it's available in a -10 prescription though. (Edit: google tells me -10 is the maximum with these)

digdoug
Jan 15th, 2006, 05:42 PM
lol, I know nothing about glass, except that I wear them, and I need new ones. So basically do I just get one of those free eye exam and just select what I need? Is there anything technicial info that I should be aware about getting these glasses? I am asking a lot of questions cause I don't think the person doing the free eye exam will answer any of them. Also I hope this will answer questions that other people like me have in mind.

Thanks.

they give free eye exams?? where? I need my prescription updated. tx.

xpat
Jan 15th, 2006, 05:57 PM
i dont know how it is where you live, but in alberta there's free eye exams until 18 afaik

xpat
Jan 15th, 2006, 05:58 PM
great deal, thanks for the post op!

alkapone
Jan 15th, 2006, 06:10 PM
Big markup on eyeglasses.....much like the matresse story...
Always big deals on these.

Good post.....might try.

I went to Dollarama and on a rotating rack they have reading glasses etc.

Bought one as a spare....for average short/long distance viewing while shopping.
Couldnt believe the quality for a buck. HOW do they do it.

fakishan
Jan 15th, 2006, 06:26 PM
i dont know how it is where you live, but in alberta there's free eye exams until 18 afaik

:mad: well, we're not all under 18 :lol:

CSR
Jan 15th, 2006, 06:28 PM
Glasses are not somethign to cheap out on.. keep in mind.

Coolme
Jan 15th, 2006, 06:33 PM
i dont know how it is where you live, but in alberta there's free eye exams until 18 afaik

hmm... didn't know that. My last eye exam was when I was 17 and I had a couple before that and they were free, so that's where I got the perception that eye exams were free.

Carebear
Jan 15th, 2006, 06:45 PM
In Ontario, your annual eye exam is free until you reach 19 or once you're over 65. Otherwise, you pay $50 to $75 per eye exam. People with diabetes, cataracts, glaucoma, amblyopia (lazy eye), strabismus (turned eye), visual field defects, retinal disease and corneal disease will be covered annually. Ocular emergencies like eye infections are not covered.

Some private health insurance policies will allow you to claim one exam every two years, but it is usually an out-of-pocket expense. (I'm not sure if it's something you can deduct on your income tax return, though.)

Of course, I've heard that New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland and Labrador do not cover optometric services at all, so perhaps it's not so bad in Ontario...

Coolme
Jan 15th, 2006, 06:53 PM
My glasses are 1.74 and they're plastic. Nikon 5 lenses. Pretty expensive though, but well worth it. Not sure if it's available in a -10 prescription though. (Edit: google tells me -10 is the maximum with these)

So correct me if I am wrong, but a higher index lens means it can be thinner (the lenses) right? and nothing else?

setell
Jan 15th, 2006, 06:55 PM
Glasses are not somethign to cheap out on.. keep in mind.

Well I'll still rather get the frame from a online dealer and get the lens at the regular optical store instead. Frames are overpriced anyway.

Div
Jan 15th, 2006, 06:57 PM
That's probably the best compromise.

ertman
Jan 15th, 2006, 07:10 PM
Well I'll still rather get the frame from a online dealer and get the lens at the regular optical store instead. Frames are overpriced anyway.

It's still hideously expensive to just get new lenses. I lost my glasses recently, and started wearing my old, scratched up pair again. I got one of the 2-for-1 deals at Shopper's Optical last time, and got two pairs of glasses for about $520. I went back there to see how much a replacement pair would be, and they quoted me $460 for one pair. I could just get new lenses put in my old frames, but even that was $260 ($230 for the lenses, $30 "fitting fee" because I didn't buy their frames.)

I checked out several other places, and there were all within $50 of that price.

I wonder if I could send my old frames to one of these mail-order places and get just new lesnes? The hardest part about getting new glasses is finding frames that look decent.

gabbycup
Jan 15th, 2006, 07:13 PM
The prices look very tempting... but what if they don't fit well? What's their return policy and has anyone tried returning/exchanging?

gordholio
Jan 15th, 2006, 07:17 PM
If they can ship from the States and be WAY cheaper than in Canada, makes you wonder why we're being ripped off in Canada so much for glasses.

cko64
Jan 15th, 2006, 07:43 PM
Wow, I paid over $800 for my new glasses from Chinatown, although $500 was subsidized by health benefit. And I thought paying final $312 for all the latest features was cheap. These online optical stores' prices are insane. I am going to order another one (same features) for under $48 USD from Zenni just for the heck of it.

Ch28
Jan 15th, 2006, 07:51 PM
Sweet deal. The thing that sucks about this is you can't try them on to see how you look with them. :lol:

gordholio
Jan 15th, 2006, 07:53 PM
Sweet deal. The thing that sucks about this is you can't try them on to see how you look with them. :lol:
What if you went to a local store and tried the same frames on before you ordered them from the US?

Ch28
Jan 15th, 2006, 07:53 PM
Wow, I paid over $800 for my new glasses from Chinatown, although $500 was subsidized by health benefit. And I thought paying final $312 for all the latest features was cheap. These online optical stores' prices are insane. I am going to order another one (same features) for under $48 USD from Zenni just for the heck of it.

$800 on glasses? :|

Ch28
Jan 15th, 2006, 07:54 PM
What if you went to a local store and tried the same frames on before you ordered them from the US?

Yeah I'd think that could be possibly but it's quite the hassle to drive around looking for that exact frame

babs00
Jan 15th, 2006, 07:54 PM
Sweet deal. The thing that sucks about this is you can't try them on to see how you look with them. :lol:

39dollar... one has pictures with varying face sizes.. that helps.

StarStrike
Jan 15th, 2006, 07:59 PM
I've ordered a few pairs from Goggles4u and I'm impressed. They have a 100% statisfaction guarantee as well so there's nothing to be worried about.

Ch28
Jan 15th, 2006, 08:02 PM
39dollar... one has pictures with varying face sizes.. that helps.

Which one would that be? Zenni Optical just has enlarged pictures of the frames .

cko64
Jan 15th, 2006, 08:05 PM
$800 on glasses? :|
Yeah, Iris Optical quoted me $1080. The Bay Optical - $900. Shopper - $975. LenCrafter - $899. I settled with Jenny's Optical from Chinatown for $812.

They even charged for drilling holes in the lense (rimless). So, 8 holes @ $6 each was $48.

Eyeglasses prices in Canada is just ridicules.

Big Brother
Jan 15th, 2006, 08:45 PM
I think I will pay the $75 examination fee, get the prescription, and buy it off one of those online places. The place where I got my pair of glasses last time did an exam but did not give me the paper with prescription info.

Kosh
Jan 15th, 2006, 08:55 PM
does any of these place offer transitional lenses?

CharmyPoo
Jan 15th, 2006, 09:13 PM
The Optical stores at Pacific Mall have a huge New Years sale right now. Most if not all frames are 50% off. I bought my boyfriend some D&G frames for $160 and $60 for the lense.

convoluted
Jan 15th, 2006, 09:52 PM
Sweet deal. The thing that sucks about this is you can't try them on to see how you look with them. :lol:

That is definitely my biggest concern. If I have difficulty in-store and try on dozens before finding a pair I am satisfied with in appearance but importantly, comfortable fit, I'm going to find it difficult to order a pair online. But excellent deal nonetheless.

ah_long
Jan 16th, 2006, 12:59 AM
i would be curious how they measure ur pupil distance, n also how they adjust it for u w/o seeing you wearing it...

n no, 1.56 is a very thick lens...
indexes for plastic lenses


1.56 thick
1.6 ^
1.61 |
1.67 |
1.74 thin

Mr. Bean
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:12 AM
So how much did everyone pay for their glasses?

Frames = ?
Frames brand = ?
Lenses = ?
Lens Index?
Total: ?

I'll Start

Frames (50% off) = $160
Frames brand = Emporio Armani
Lenses = $180
Lenses = Glass 1.8 index (very thin!)
Total: $340

BTW Glass is available at 1.9 thickness too but at about $280 (much more than 1.8!)

aquariaguy
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:17 AM
I'm looking at the Zenni site...
and...what is anti-radiation coating? That sounds like BS.

1.56 index is pretty crap too. IF you have a high prescription, it will be mighty thick. Especially if you get rimless, it's ognna look ugly.

Do you guys know what type of lense you are getting?

And by the way, all these frames cost $2 or less. They are from China.


You get what you pay for.

aquariaguy
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:18 AM
I think I will pay the $75 examination fee, get the prescription, and buy it off one of those online places. The place where I got my pair of glasses last time did an exam but did not give me the paper with prescription info.

They didn't give you the prescription? The optometrist is supposed to give it to you. Unless he knows you're coming back and maybe put it in your file. But if you ask for it, they have to give it back.

Which optical was this at?

setell
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:30 AM
I'm looking at the Zenni site...
and...what is anti-radiation coating? That sounds like BS.

1.56 index is pretty crap too. IF you have a high prescription, it will be mighty thick. Especially if you get rimless, it's ognna look ugly.

Do you guys know what type of lense you are getting?

And by the way, all these frames cost $2 or less. They are from China.


You get what you pay for.

I think the anti-radiation coating is the UV coating. Personally I thought it came with the anti-glare or any form of coating.

cko64
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:30 AM
And by the way, all these frames cost $2 or less. They are from China.


You get what you pay for.
Gee, my made in China Marchon frame costs $329. Just because it is made in China, it can still be quality frame. To you everything made in China is dirt cheap. Well, I beg to differ. I have no problem buying Made in China product.

I bet my glasses which is made in China is more expensive than any glasses you ever own, and I have a receipt to prove it too. Shall we scan our receipts?

Steeve Urkel
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:43 AM
hmm... didn't know that. My last eye exam was when I was 17 and I had a couple before that and they were free, so that's where I got the perception that eye exams were free.

In Ontario I think u r allowed a free eye exam every 2 years or else it might be 50s.

There is also a good optical chain laurier optical.

was in the store last week and they had 70 percent off frames, so like a diesel or a nice italian or europen frame w thin lenses would have been about 170 total! or 2 pairs for about 300 or so.....sometimes they have a 3 for 1 deal and you can request contact lenses instead of a 3rd pair so 2 prs eye glasses and 2 boxes disposable contacts! - sometimes they throw in some solution 4 free also.

also, later in the year they clear out their "old" designer models and they can be up to 90 percent off the frames only....but you don't have to even buy the lenses there. they told me to buy my frames and come back when i wanted to get lenses whenever.......(so in theory you could get nice frames and the lenses anywhere else cheaper probably).

they also have sidewalk sales with are crazy cheap.
I've gotten nice metal german frames for 40s when they would be almost 3oo anywhere else.

when it comes to eyeglasses and sunglasses i don't think anyone should skimp.
I've seen some of the cheaper frames shatter in the cold because of poor quality.
(i'm also a sunglass/eyeglass "snob" i guess...lol)
but if you can only afford something cheaper then thats ok too! :cheesygri

here's their website..in TO and mtl also...

http://www.laurieroptical.com/

i am very happy w their brands....and if they don't have what you want and you know the model # and it's in the designers recent collection they can order it for you. they have all the designer books if you ask and have the $$$

they have a good rep so u know u r getting the REAl brand glasses and not fakes!

http://www.laurieroptical.com/

Seveneighty
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:58 AM
And by the way, all these frames cost $2 or less. They are from China.

You get what you pay for.
I bought a $350 Panasonic car deck. It's the most impressive thing I've ever put in my car.

..then just last month I caught a glimpse of the box lying in the basement, and saw that it was proudly "Made in China".

On a similar note -- I got a pair of glasses that were made in Italy. I had to return them because I realized they were the ugliest things ever.

My point is, don't generalize about the supposed poor quality of Chinese products.

weedb0y
Jan 16th, 2006, 02:28 AM
That's pretty impressive and helpful after I just paid over $200 for my glasses last month. Won't hurt to have a second pair in case one I forget at work. I like 39dollar... website, one can have a sample of picture as to one's face (round,square) and better variety.

I'm conspicous of Pakistan and China websites that how they afford to include free shipping with only $19 glasses ?

How much do you think the duty would be from US for 39dollar.. and will UPS charge any transaction processing fees ?

Currency Exchange my man! Thats how they can afford to!

dekko
Jan 16th, 2006, 03:11 AM
its really a nice deal
consider that u can now get like those plastic frame ones for like $19
so now some people can match their glasses to their shoes :)

anyways, can anyone tell me how to read the prescription from the optometrist

i have no clue how to read it and so i won't be able to fill in those fields in the website

Lawpack
Jan 16th, 2006, 03:15 AM
its really a nice deal
consider that u can now get like those plastic frame ones for like $19
so now some people can match their glasses to their shoes :)

anyways, can anyone tell me how to read the prescription from the optometrist

i have no clue how to read it and so i won't be able to fill in those fields in the website
yeah, i would like to know too, thanks in advance :)

System
Jan 16th, 2006, 09:20 AM
Frames = 180
Frames brand = Reebok
Lenses = Nikon @ 360$
Lens Index 1.74
Total: 540$

MizTEcK
Jan 16th, 2006, 10:04 AM
someone please tell me how to get all the measurements to order this

aquariaguy
Jan 16th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Gee, my made in China Marchon frame costs $329. Just because it is made in China, it can still be quality frame. To you everything made in China is dirt cheap. Well, I beg to differ. I have no problem buying Made in China product.

I bet my glasses which is made in China is more expensive than any glasses you ever own, and I have a receipt to prove it too. Shall we scan our receipts?

Well I believe whne it comes to frames, Made in China is far less superior. Because in the eyeglass industry, not EVERYTHING is made in china, i still have a choice. However in clothes and lots of other things you really have no choice.

What's the point of showing me your Made in China eyeglasses are more expensive? Doesn't that mean they just made more money off you? To tell you the truth, Made in China frames cost less than $10. Some even $2 each. Like Nike, Guess, Columbia, Roots, etc... all pieces of crap.

So how much did you spend on your frame + lenses?

aquariaguy
Jan 16th, 2006, 10:23 AM
someone please tell me how to get all the measurements to order this

Are you talking about your prescription?

Well everything should be on the prescription, however sometimes the optometrist doesn't do the PD distance. I've seen opticians do that before you buy. Everything else should be there.

aquariaguy
Jan 16th, 2006, 10:24 AM
its really a nice deal
consider that u can now get like those plastic frame ones for like $19
so now some people can match their glasses to their shoes :)

anyways, can anyone tell me how to read the prescription from the optometrist

i have no clue how to read it and so i won't be able to fill in those fields in the website

Can you send me a link to the site with all the "fields"?

sportsfan99
Jan 16th, 2006, 10:25 AM
In Ontario I think u r allowed a free eye exam every 2 years or else it might be 50s.

There is also a good optical chain laurier optical.

was in the store last week and they had 70 percent off frames, so like a diesel or a nice italian or europen frame w thin lenses would have been about 170 total! or 2 pairs for about 300 or so.....sometimes they have a 3 for 1 deal and you can request contact lenses instead of a 3rd pair so 2 prs eye glasses and 2 boxes disposable contacts! - sometimes they throw in some solution 4 free also.

also, later in the year they clear out their "old" designer models and they can be up to 90 percent off the frames only....but you don't have to even buy the lenses there. they told me to buy my frames and come back when i wanted to get lenses whenever.......(so in theory you could get nice frames and the lenses anywhere else cheaper probably).

they also have sidewalk sales with are crazy cheap.
I've gotten nice metal german frames for 40s when they would be almost 3oo anywhere else.

when it comes to eyeglasses and sunglasses i don't think anyone should skimp.
I've seen some of the cheaper frames shatter in the cold because of poor quality.
(i'm also a sunglass/eyeglass "snob" i guess...lol)
but if you can only afford something cheaper then thats ok too! :cheesygri

here's their website..in TO and mtl also...

http://www.laurieroptical.com/

i am very happy w their brands....and if they don't have what you want and you know the model # and it's in the designers recent collection they can order it for you. they have all the designer books if you ask and have the $$$

they have a good rep so u know u r getting the REAl brand glasses and not fakes!

http://www.laurieroptical.com/

There are no more free eye exzams.It is about $50.00 for a exzam now.

aquariaguy
Jan 16th, 2006, 10:29 AM
There are no more free eye exzams.It is about $50.00 for a exzam now.

If you're 19+ and above its NOT free. (Or 18, forgot)

wstam
Jan 16th, 2006, 10:38 AM
I do not trust to buy glasses online. I can't measure my eye distance without the special tool. If the glasses eye distance do not correct, it is very bad for the eyes. Also, you cannot know if the frame look good until you actually wear it. I did try different size of the same frame and it look very very different.

A good and correct builded glasses is very important. My prescription was kept increasing until I got my last glasses with acturate prescription and correct builded glasses. My prescription do not increase during the last 5 years. I just buy a new glasses because my health insurance 100% cover prescription glasses.

In Canada, most big opticial store only carry plastic lens because of the safety. I once go to Lanscrafter and the beast they have is 1.68 high index pastic lens.

I just brought my glasses last month. I went to many many optical stores for the style I want. For plastic lens, the highest index plastic lens is only 1.68. For glass lens, it is normally 1.70 and 1.8 can be special ordered.

My prescription is -6.5. I buy my glasses in a small chinese optical store for $280. The frame is Easy Clips and the lens is special ordered high index 1.8 glass lens with anti-reflection costing. This is the best glasses I ever had.

Most chinese optical store quote my glasses between $250-$400. One of the store quote me $350 for a Giorgio Armani frame with custom made clip-on, but I don't like the frame.

Most the big chained optical store (e.g. Lenscrafter) quote me between $350-$500)

One of the small optical store quote me $900 and I walk away at once.

ah_long
Jan 16th, 2006, 11:08 AM
you people are all fooled by that 70%, 50% off...
some optical stores in pacific mall e.g. has 50% off for the past 15+ years

ALL IT MATTERS IS THE ENDING PRICE AND THE BRAND/QUALITY OF THE FRAME...

you guys r paying a ridiculously high price for nikon lenses... @ least @ my store, we charge about 200 bucks a pair, or sometimes less... depending on what frame you choose...

evoviii
Jan 16th, 2006, 11:42 AM
you people are all fooled by that 70%, 50% off...
some optical stores in pacific mall e.g. has 50% off for the past 15+ years

ALL IT MATTERS IS THE ENDING PRICE AND THE BRAND/QUALITY OF THE FRAME...

you guys r paying a ridiculously high price for nikon lenses... @ least @ my store, we charge about 200 bucks a pair, or sometimes less... depending on what frame you choose...

I like that, pacific mall hasn't been around for 15+ years but i understand your point about the 50% off permanence. My friend who worked at athelete's world had shoes on clearance for 9.99 regular 59.99. Then the whole store went on 50% off everything and people bought it at 29.99...

Since you work at an optical store, what's a good quality lense or is it non consequential?

aquariaguy
Jan 16th, 2006, 12:13 PM
I like that, pacific mall hasn't been around for 15+ years but i understand your point about the 50% off permanence. My friend who worked at athelete's world had shoes on clearance for 9.99 regular 59.99. Then the whole store went on 50% off everything and people bought it at 29.99...

Since you work at an optical store, what's a good quality lense or is it non consequential?

Good quality is Nikon (a bit $$$), Essilor, Hoya.

And you're right about all that 50% BS. I hate all that "2for1" and "3for1" deals. LIES

Fire
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:03 PM
Duty?

jdi_knght
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:16 PM
someone please tell me how to get all the measurements to order this

When you have your prescription, usually the only additional measurement you need is your PD (the distance between the center of your pupils). If your optometrist didn't write it with your prescription (they usually don't unless you ask, assuming that the optician will when you buy the glasses), you can either really nicely ask a local place if they'd be willing to take it for you, or you can try to take it yourself. I pulled this from the 39dollarglasses.com site:
To measure your PD:

1. Place the millimeter ruler on the bridge of your nose.
2. Have a friend face you about arms length away.
3. Have your friend measure the distance between the center of your pupils (the black dots in the middle of your eyes).
4. (Or you can do it yourself simply by looking in the mirror).

I did it by looking in the mirror. I closed my left eye to get the position along the ruler of the right eye, and closed the right eye to get the position along the ruler of the left eye and then just subtracted.

If you get the wrong measurement, it can apparantly cause problems with the new lenses. From what I've read, the effect is worse with higher prescriptions than it is with weaker ones. If you're not sure about doing it yourself I'd really suggest getting it done professionally, or accept the fact that the glasses might not seem right.

jdi_knght
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:22 PM
The prices look very tempting... but what if they don't fit well? What's their return policy and has anyone tried returning/exchanging?


They all differ, but most of the return policies I've come across are something to the effect of getting either a 50% refund, or 50% towards the purchase of new frames/lenses.

Zenni:
Even so since we value your satisfaction above all if you are unsatisfied with your prescription eyeglasses for any reason just return the eyeglass with the order copy and case within four weeks and we will replace it with a new frame and prescription of your choosing for only 50% of the cost of the new item plus shipping and handling

39DollarGlasses
We unconditionally guarantee all our frames and lenses to be delivered exactly as they were ordered and free of defects.
In the unlikely event your new glasses need to be remade for reasons beyond our control (e.g. your doctor changes your prescription, you would like to select a different style, or if you accidentally enter incorrect prescription information), we will gladly do so for only $14.95 plus shipping/packaging (plus 50% of the purchase price above $39.00 if applicable). You may return your prescription eyeglasses for any reason for a partial refund equal to your purchase price less a restocking fee of $14.95 plus shipping/packaging (plus 50% of the purchase price above $39 if applicable). There are no full refunds on prescription eyeglasses. We do this only to ensure our ability to continue to provide the public with the lowest-priced, high-quality prescription glasses anywhere.

Goggles4u
Not Satisfied with the Quality of Product :
In case you are not satisfied with the product quality you may return the product to us for a refund. In such cases you are entitled to receive the full frame price and 50% of the price of prescription lenses.

The lenses are not as per my original Prescription:
Its very rare that the lenses produced by us are not as per your prescription but if this is the case then goggles4u.com is 100% responsible for refund or reshipment. In cases where customer entered the wrong prescription during ordering process, we may not be held responsible but you can contact our sales department to claim extra discount on further orders in order to minimize loses.

I never received the product or its damaged:
If the product is lost in transit or damage you may claim your 100% refund or ask for immediate replacement.

The frame of lenses broke after few days.
Goggles4u.com is unable to provide any warrantees in such cases however you can always contact our sales department to solve such problems.

I am not happy with the size of the frame.
Goggles4u may not be held responsible if you select a frame which is not of your size. In such cases the customer can return the product for full price of frame and half price of lenses.

jdi_knght
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:39 PM
Do you have to send in some measures of your face ? Like how far are your eyes apart and stuff ? How do they do the fitting ? Do they accept prescription from a canadian optician ?

None of the other places I've checked seem to care about who made out the prescription. Only 1 place (out of about 7 or 8 that I've browsed through) even asks for the optician's info. You usually just type in the values listed in your prescription, and the PD measurement. As far as fitting goes, I think you're on your own there. Some opticians might adjust them for you, but you might end up having to adjust them on your own as best you can.

If getting the professional fitting, etc are important to you, you're probably better off to go to a local shop. You're pretty much guaranteed to have great fitting frames and lenses by the time you're out of the shop if you go local. If you buy on the net, things could be great, or you could end up with a pair of glasses that fit so poorly you can't even wear them. It's a lot cheaper, but there's more risk. Since I could get 3-4 pair over the net for the price of 1 pair of glasses locally, for me it's worth the risk.

alt130
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:49 PM
Duty?

No taxes, no duty on prescription eyeglasses.

aquariaguy
Jan 16th, 2006, 02:09 PM
I wouldn't recommend anyone doing the PD measurement themself (from a mirror) or asking a friend. This is something they actually test on the optician board exam, and its not easy as it looks. If you screw it up, your eyes will just get more messed up because it wont be centered. You'll just make your vision worse...


When you have your prescription, usually the only additional measurement you need is your PD (the distance between the center of your pupils). If your optometrist didn't write it with your prescription (they usually don't unless you ask, assuming that the optician will when you buy the glasses), you can either really nicely ask a local place if they'd be willing to take it for you, or you can try to take it yourself. I pulled this from the 39dollarglasses.com site:
To measure your PD:

1. Place the millimeter ruler on the bridge of your nose.
2. Have a friend face you about arms length away.
3. Have your friend measure the distance between the center of your pupils (the black dots in the middle of your eyes).
4. (Or you can do it yourself simply by looking in the mirror).

I did it by looking in the mirror. I closed my left eye to get the position along the ruler of the right eye, and closed the right eye to get the position along the ruler of the left eye and then just subtracted.

If you get the wrong measurement, it can apparantly cause problems with the new lenses. From what I've read, the effect is worse with higher prescriptions than it is with weaker ones. If you're not sure about doing it yourself I'd really suggest getting it done professionally, or accept the fact that the glasses might not seem right.

dekko
Jan 16th, 2006, 03:01 PM
Can you send me a link to the site with all the "fields"?

heres one from zennioptical: http://zennioptical.com/cart/product.php?productid=93&cat=0&page=1

my prescription actually says this:
R: -500/-850 > 050
L: -575/-075 > 115
PD 60

so i have no clue what it stands for
all i know is i'm pretty blind without glasses :|

lanshark
Jan 16th, 2006, 03:22 PM
Don't buy rimless glasses with a refractive index of 1.56. Go for 1.67 or 1.74.

1.56 rimless glasses are very thick. They will let a huge amount of light through the edges of the lenses.. which will give you a nasty prism effect along the edges: rainbows, bright light, which is harder to ignore than a black frame. This is the best reason to choose glasses with rims.

alt130
Jan 16th, 2006, 03:26 PM
I wouldn't recommend anyone doing the PD measurement themself (from a mirror) or asking a friend. This is something they actually test on the optician board exam, and its not easy as it looks. If you screw it up, your eyes will just get more messed up because it wont be centered. You'll just make your vision worse...

I'd agree. If it's been awhile since you've had an eye exam, might as well just get your prescription refreshed and ask your Optometrist for your PD measurement (which he had apparently already taken down before I requested it). An optometrist not associated with an eyeglass store may be more willing to do this without a fuss. But in any case, even if they are cheap glasses, might as well do it right.

jdi_knght
Jan 16th, 2006, 05:34 PM
More sites to add to the list, although I haven't looked through these ones very extensively:

SpecsOnTheNet - prices start at £9.99 (probably just under $20CDN) + shipping. They also have a promo if you follow the link where you can get *free* frames and lenses, although you still have to pay for shipping, and the 6 free ones you have to choose from seem kind of ugly to me. Guessing they're located in the UK.
http://www.specsonthenet.com/free.jsp

EyeGlassFactoryOutlet - prices start at $34.50 USD + $9.95 for Worldwide Shipping. Located in Florida
http://www.eyeglassfactoryoutlet.com

SelectSpecs - prices starting at $27.50 CDN + $5.95 Shipping. They "are headquartered in Kent, the Garden of England".
http://selectspecs.com


For anyone interested, I've started a site where I'll hopefully be reviewing these sites eventually (or at least getting their prices up) at:
http://www.rtgenterprises.com/eyeglassretailerreviews/
There are a few sites already listed (like the first 4 at the beginning of this thread), and hopefully I can get a few more in at some point.

RTC
Jan 16th, 2006, 08:42 PM
I don't know how you guys can buy glasses on line... Yeah they're cheap, but like all things in life though, you get what you pay for.

First of all...Have you ever had a pair of glasses with the wrong PD or prescription??!! I have (no thanks to Laurier Optical), and all you get is headaches... seriously, they literally will give you headaches. Your eyes end up straining so much to adapt to incorrect lenses that it gives you headahces,

Secondly... You must not care what you look like, cause it takes me hours to find the right frame. I even look for ones that are the same size as the ones I already have, and they still don't all fit the same.

Thirdly, How do you know what they gave you is right?... You would have to bring it back to an Optometrist or an Optician to have them double check. As mentioned briefly above, I have had Laurier Optical give me the wrong lenses, I guess they didn't even double check.

The best luck I have had is at My Eye Doctor (Optometrist) who happens to dispense (sell) glasses as well. You would have to go to one that works in their own practice, not beside a Lenscrafters or Laurier Optical....Everything they have is sold at cost!! that's right I got a pair of

$90 Armani's ($400 at some Optical downtown)
$59 Lenses were $59 (1.56 with anti-reflective, anti-scratch coating)
$90 dispensing fee (kinda like when you get prescription drugs filled)
---------------------
$239 (no tax on prescription eyewear) for a set of Armani's! (so I am a little Image conscious)

I don't know why people go to Opticals... even with there "sales" they are still marked up because they marked them up so high in the first place. And the really cheap is cheap for a reason (quality and looks).

Just my $0.02

ud666
Jan 16th, 2006, 09:27 PM
My gosh, what are those xray glasses?



Yeah, Iris Optical quoted me $1080. The Bay Optical - $900. Shopper - $975. LenCrafter - $899. I settled with Jenny's Optical from Chinatown for $812.

They even charged for drilling holes in the lense (rimless). So, 8 holes @ $6 each was $48.

Eyeglasses prices in Canada is just ridicules.

anom
Jan 16th, 2006, 09:37 PM
in my experience getting glasses from the optometrist is always grossly overpriced. That dispensing fee kills everything.


I don't know how you guys can buy glasses on line... Yeah they're cheap, but like all things in life though, you get what you pay for.

First of all...Have you ever had a pair of glasses with the wrong PD or prescription??!! I have (no thanks to Laurier Optical), and all you get is headaches... seriously, they literally will give you headaches. Your eyes end up straining so much to adapt to incorrect lenses that it gives you headahces,

Secondly... You must not care what you look like, cause it takes me hours to find the right frame. I even look for ones that are the same size as the ones I already have, and they still don't all fit the same.

Thirdly, How do you know what they gave you is right?... You would have to bring it back to an Optometrist or an Optician to have them double check. As mentioned briefly above, I have had Laurier Optical give me the wrong lenses, I guess they didn't even double check.

The best luck I have had is at My Eye Doctor (Optometrist) who happens to dispense (sell) glasses as well. You would have to go to one that works in their own practice, not beside a Lenscrafters or Laurier Optical....Everything they have is sold at cost!! that's right I got a pair of

$90 Armani's ($400 at some Optical downtown)
$59 Lenses were $59 (1.56 with anti-reflective, anti-scratch coating)
$90 dispensing fee (kinda like when you get prescription drugs filled)
---------------------
$239 (no tax on prescription eyewear) for a set of Armani's! (so I am a little Image conscious)

I don't know why people go to Opticals... even with there "sales" they are still marked up because they marked them up so high in the first place. And the really cheap is cheap for a reason (quality and looks).

Just my $0.02

RTC
Jan 16th, 2006, 09:51 PM
in my experience getting glasses from the optometrist is always grossly overpriced. That dispensing fee kills everything.

Well, If you are want legitimate, quality product, then optometrists aren't overpriced. It's at COST plus a fee to cover overhead... If you haggle at a store with someone guess what the lowest price they are going to agree to?... that's right, cost plus an amount to cover overhead costs. Plus they're Doctors, you know you are going to be taken care of and things will be done right (there sole purpose isn't to make money off you)

If you want knock off stuff, with no warranty be my guest and buy the cheap stuff.

nano
Jan 16th, 2006, 10:01 PM
in my experience getting glasses from the optometrist is always grossly overpriced. That dispensing fee kills everything.
last week i got a some glasses from my optometrist

frame = 250 (magna twist with sunglass clip-on)
lens = 100 (all coatings included)
with a 2 yr no questions asked warrenty

they were about 150 dollars cheaper then hakim

techwiz
Jan 16th, 2006, 10:11 PM
Any more experiences with Zenni Optical?

I'm considering placing an order for $19.99 glasses + 4.95 anti-reflective... so tempting!

ah_long
Jan 16th, 2006, 10:46 PM
last week i got a some glasses from my optometrist

frame = 250 (magna twist with sunglass clip-on)
lens = 100 (all coatings included)
with a 2 yr no questions asked warrenty

they were about 150 dollars cheaper then hakim

i can get it for you for 100 bucks cheaper than what you paid... $250

dealcatcher
Jan 16th, 2006, 10:51 PM
Any more experiences with Zenni Optical?

I'm considering placing an order for $19.99 glasses + 4.95 anti-reflective... so tempting!

where did you get your eye exam?

RTC
Jan 17th, 2006, 12:07 AM
i can get it for you for 100 bucks cheaper than what you paid... $250

Funny that you can instantly say that without even knowing exactly what he got (like what exact frame, lenses, coatings...)

(Sorry, don't mean to sound mean, but I think everyone on RFD likes to hear specifics when comparing prices :) )

Cheapipay
Jan 17th, 2006, 12:57 AM
I've ordered 4 pairs from ZENNI for the past 4 years. I have high RX (-5.50 & 5.00 + High Borderline astigmatism. I'm still within the standard pricing for the lenses.

I also have wide face, most of the standard frames listed on their website don't fit me. So I order their Frameless ones. You need to know what you PD (pupil distance) and the frame Size from you old pair of glasses that you like and of course your latest eye prescription.

History:
Pair #1 (Stainless Frame): lasted 1 1/2 year. Worn daily ---normal wear & tear (slept on). Welds holding on the lens broke.

Pair # 2: (Stainless Frame): 3 years old - Sunglass Tint, worn during summer while driving. Still in use. Tint may be uneven (dark & light spots), Zenni replaced with new lenses. You have to ship it back for replacement. Good customer service.

Pair # 3 & 4 (Titainum Frame - Heavy Duty): Flexible frame. One pair broke (the Nosepad Weld on the frame broke). I've sat on it once, it's just a bad weld job from the factory i guess. I'm still wearing the other pair.
Anti Reflective tint starting to peel, one spot only.

4 years = $35 US each x 4 pair ($140 US) not too bad. I'm still left with 2 pairs (one as spare). I also have spare parts ;)

SHIPPING:
You can order and ship to an Amerifriend. Then shipping it to Canada ...works out cheaper in my opinion. You may be charged Duties & Taxes.... approx $8 cdn if it ships directly from the US.


QUALITY:
You get what you pay for. Overall, they are good. You have to select a heavy duty ones. (less likely to break if sat on or rolled over while sleeping...you know what I mean. Welds for glasses are delicate as most of the glasses are. So be very careful where you put your glasses. Anti reflective coating may come off when scratched, it'll eventually start to come off as you wipe/clean the lenses.

Hope this helps.

ah_long
Jan 17th, 2006, 01:02 AM
Funny that you can instantly say that without even knowing exactly what he got (like what exact frame, lenses, coatings...)

(Sorry, don't mean to sound mean, but I think everyone on RFD likes to hear specifics when comparing prices :) )

I think I would know more than you as I work in the industry..
all magnatwist frames comes from the same company, since the whole line of products uses the same material, the price of the frame would not differ greatly...

In addition, Lenses w/ all coatings are not expensive, he didn't mention that he was requesting a particular brand...

I don't speak unless I know!

Mr. Bean
Jan 17th, 2006, 01:13 AM
Hey ah_long

I want to see if I got ripped off or not, I think I got a deal. Can you give me a quote on this specific combination?

Frames: Emporio Armani 9190
Lenses: 1.8 High index glass, anti-scratch, anti-reflective
Total: $300

Purchased in Vancouver, so I understand if the prices are different due to differing markets, etc.

Thanks!

ah_long
Jan 17th, 2006, 01:19 AM
Hey ah_long

I want to see if I got ripped off or not, I think I got a deal. Can you give me a quote on this specific combination?

Frames: Emporio Armani 9190
Lenses: 1.8 High index glass, anti-scratch, anti-reflective
Total: $300

Purchased in Vancouver, so I understand if the prices are different due to differing markets, etc.

Thanks!

not bad... pretty good deal if you ask me..

mrken
Jan 17th, 2006, 02:40 AM
How do the masses of glass and plastic lenses compare?
I know glass is heavier, but they typically have a higher density. Assuming the same prescription, are 1.67-index plastic lenses heavier or lighter than 1.8- or 1.9-index glass lenses?

I do not plan to abuse my glasses, so glass lenses should be fine.

Mr. Bean
Jan 17th, 2006, 02:57 AM
How do the masses of glass and plastic lenses compare?
I know glass is heavier, but they typically have a higher density. Assuming the same prescription, are 1.67-index plastic lenses heavier or lighter than 1.8- or 1.9-index glass lenses?

I do not plan to abuse my glasses, so glass lenses should be fine.

I don't know about specific weights, etc. but I can say that I own both high-index plastic (can't remember if its 1.67 or 1.74 plastic) and a 1.8 glass. I find that the plastic is noticably lighter.

However, i think that the vision through the glass is actually a little better than the plastic even though the prescription is the same. Apparently this is due to the density difference between plastic and glass.

mrken
Jan 17th, 2006, 03:18 AM
I don't know about specific weights, etc. but I can say that I own both high-index plastic (can't remember if its 1.67 or 1.74 plastic) and a 1.8 glass. I find that the plastic is noticably lighter.

However, i think that the vision through the glass is actually a little better than the plastic even though the prescription is the same. Apparently this is due to the density difference between plastic and glass.
Thanks. :) I was told not to choose any light frames because of my prescription, since lighter frames would leaving the glasses unbalanced. (I have two big holes in my nose now when I remove my glasses. :() I think I will stick with plastic lenses then. :) And save myself some money at the same time. :)

Thank you for bring up the point regarding the quality of the lens. Do glass lenses experience a greater or a lesser amount of chromatic aberation? Anything that I look at with high contrast will have orange on one side and blue on the other if I am not looking at it straight on. Do better quality lenses (from Nikon for example) reduce chromatic aberation?

Thanks in advance!

mrgreenjeans
Jan 17th, 2006, 03:25 AM
Good info in this thread. I have a related question -- does anyone know how I can tell whether my lenses are authentic Nikon or not? I was supposed to get "Nikon 4" 1.67 index lenses but I they don't seem any thinner or clearer than my last pair of generic high index plastic. They don't show a logo when I breathe on them. Should I have received a certificate of authenticity or something??

Also, regarding the previous poster's question, I get the same chromatic aberration on my supposed Nikon lenses. :)

Mr. Bean
Jan 17th, 2006, 03:30 AM
... Do glass lenses experience a greater or a lesser amount of chromatic aberation?...

LOL, had too look up that one :lol: BTW, it means colour distortion.

Sheesh I hope you don't talk like that all the time...

No problems with colour distortion. I just notice that images seem sharper through glass and that in a lit up room or outside that the glass lenses let in a lot more light making it appear sharper & more vivid.

I wouldn't think that with optical quality glass that you'd have any of these colour problems though.

BTW, high-index plastic is a lot more expensive than glass when comparing like product (e.g. 1.7ish plastic vs. 1.8 glass). I think my plastic lenses cost about a third more -- maybe $280 vs. $180? (going from memory here...)

You should get sturdy frames anyways. e.g. You shouldn't get rimless or half-rim glasses with a high prescription -- not strong enough, plus the thickness shows.

Mr. Bean
Jan 17th, 2006, 03:32 AM
not bad... pretty good deal if you ask me..

Thanks for the confirmation. Puts my mind at ease :D

RTC
Jan 17th, 2006, 09:40 AM
I think I would know more than you as I work in the industry..
all magnatwist frames comes from the same company, since the whole line of products uses the same material, the price of the frame would not differ greatly...

In addition, Lenses w/ all coatings are not expensive, he didn't mention that he was requesting a particular brand...

I don't speak unless I know!

He still didn't say what kind of lenses (single vision, progressives, transistion...)... and that in itself can have a HUGE difference in price... But I guess you already know that :)

terrencel
Jan 17th, 2006, 10:42 AM
Hi,

I have 2 questions:
1. Looking at my prescription for the PD, it said "Pd 64/61".
Why are there 2 numbers? Which one to use?

2. I have -5.75/-5.25. Is 1.56 index len thin enough?

Thanks
Terry

jdi_knght
Jan 17th, 2006, 12:58 PM
Hi,

I have 2 questions:
1. Looking at my prescription for the PD, it said "Pd 64/61".
Why are there 2 numbers? Which one to use?

2. I have -5.75/-5.25. Is 1.56 index len thin enough?

Thanks
Terry

Taken from 39dollarglasses.com:
If you had your PD measured for you but there’s more than one number:

If you have two different numbers, you have either been given both the Distance/Reading or Right Eye/Left Eye:

* If the numbers are higher (and different), like 62/59, then the first number is your Distance PD and the second is your Near PD (for reading-only glasses).
* If the two numbers are lower (and different), like 30.5/31.5, then you had someone take your PD one eye at a time (called "monocular PD"). The first number is for the right eye (O.D.) and the second number is for the left eye (O.S.). If you have a monocular PD available, put it in the "Customer notes" section of the order form and we'll use it.
* If the two numbers are the same, like 30.5/30.5, you can just add them together (61 in this example) and we’ll automatically divide it equally.

Depending on where you're ordering from, if they don't ask for both numbers, I'd probably stick it in the 'notes' section, or maybe contact the retailer beforehand and ask them.

I don't know the answer to your second question though about a 1.56 lens being thin enough.

ah_long
Jan 17th, 2006, 01:40 PM
He still didn't say what kind of lenses (single vision, progressives, transistion...)... and that in itself can have a HUGE difference in price... But I guess you already know that :)

if he didn't mention progressive/transition, i suppose it's not there... he/she only mentioned that the lenses comes with all coatings...

ah_long
Jan 17th, 2006, 01:41 PM
Hi,

I have 2 questions:
1. Looking at my prescription for the PD, it said "Pd 64/61".
Why are there 2 numbers? Which one to use?

2. I have -5.75/-5.25. Is 1.56 index len thin enough?

Thanks
Terry

no, 1.56 is thick, go for 1.6, and if your economical situation allows you, get 1.67

RTC
Jan 17th, 2006, 02:41 PM
if he didn't mention progressive/transition, i suppose it's not there... he/she only mentioned that the lenses comes with all coatings...

Even then, you don't know the index of refraction, brand, material.... i don't mean to drag this on an on, but you need details before stating something is a "good deal"

digdoug
Jan 17th, 2006, 06:30 PM
last week i got a some glasses from my optometrist

frame = 250 (magna twist with sunglass clip-on)
lens = 100 (all coatings included)
with a 2 yr no questions asked warrenty

they were about 150 dollars cheaper then hakim

staple your nutsack together before you even consider buying from hakim. the experience will be more pleasant. never buy from them, unless they're selling frames & lenses for $1.

also, will optical4less make an exception and use the regular (cheap) plastic lenses instead of the 1.67 for my -7 & -7.5 prescription? their current option won't allow it, but the other sites do. I plan on buying a small pair with rims all around. is it all right to go with the regular lens? especially since I'm a cheap bastard?

thendless
Jan 17th, 2006, 06:47 PM
staple your nutsack together before you even consider buying from hakim. the experience will be more pleasant. never buy from them, unless they're selling frames & lenses for $1.

also, will optical4less make an exception and use the regular (cheap) plastic lenses instead of the 1.67 for my -7 & -7.5 prescription? their current option won't allow it, but the other sites do. I plan on buying a small pair with rims all around. is it all right to go with the regular lens? especially since I'm a cheap bastard?

with your prescription and the regular lens it'll probably look somethign like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4e/Farnsworth.png

tas69
Jan 17th, 2006, 08:59 PM
Great topic, I've always wondered if it was possible to get cheaper eyeglasses online.

aquariaguy
Jan 17th, 2006, 10:04 PM
Great topic, I've always wondered if it was possible to get cheaper eyeglasses online.

I wouldn't recommend it.

You don't know how the frame will fit, the optician won't fit it on you, if your lenses are cut wrong, you will screw up your vision even more.

It's important to see if you're actually comfortable with the frame too.

deals4j
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:43 AM
Good info in this thread. I have a related question -- does anyone know how I can tell whether my lenses are authentic Nikon or not? I was supposed to get "Nikon 4" 1.67 index lenses but I they don't seem any thinner or clearer than my last pair of generic high index plastic. They don't show a logo when I breathe on them. Should I have received a certificate of authenticity or something??

Also, regarding the previous poster's question, I get the same chromatic aberration on my supposed Nikon lenses. :)

My Nikon 5s don't show a logo when I breathe on them either (like their site says they should), and I got mine from Iris, so I'm fairly sure I'm not getting ripped off.. however, I did get a certificate of authenticity on a business sized card with the Nikon logo on it.

ah_long
Jan 18th, 2006, 01:17 AM
My Nikon 5s don't show a logo when I breathe on them either (like their site says they should), and I got mine from Iris, so I'm fairly sure I'm not getting ripped off.. however, I did get a certificate of authenticity on a business sized card with the Nikon logo on it.

All Nikon Lenses come with the HCC (Hard Clear Coat), however, you must specifically order the HCC ICE coating (a level higher than the HCC coating) in order to see the markings when you breathe on them...

ICE coating provides you a smoother surface than regular HCC coating while giving you the world knowned scratch protection. Water would bead on the surface on the ICE coating and its smudge repellent.

deals4j
Jan 18th, 2006, 02:25 AM
All Nikon Lenses come with the HCC (Hard Clear Coat), however, you must specifically order the HCC ICE coating (a level higher than the HCC coating) in order to see the markings when you breathe on them...

ICE coating provides you a smoother surface than regular HCC coating while giving you the world knowned scratch protection. Water would bead on the surface on the ICE coating and its smudge repellent.

I did get the ICE coating on mine, yet it still doesn't do it.

ah_long
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:08 PM
I did get the ICE coating on mine, yet it still doesn't do it.

then I suggest you going back and ask about it

callous
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:17 PM
My Nikon 5s don't show a logo when I breathe on them either (like their site says they should), and I got mine from Iris, so I'm fairly sure I'm not getting ripped off.. however, I did get a certificate of authenticity on a business sized card with the Nikon logo on it.

You get the logo if and only if the lens were cut at Nikon's lab in Montreal. Most eye glass places just buys the lens in bulk and grind it themselves, and in that case you will not see the logo

Got this info from Nikon in Montreal.

RTC
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:35 PM
I wouldn't recommend it.

You don't know how the frame will fit, the optician won't fit it on you, if your lenses are cut wrong, you will screw up your vision even more.

It's important to see if you're actually comfortable with the frame too.

I totally agree. Not worth the risk, because how are YOU going to be able to check that the presciption and PD are right? (let alone getting a proper fitting frame)

But as I said earlier, if your going to buyat a local place, might aswell check out any dispencing Optometrists (not working beside a lens crafters, Hakim, Laurier optical...) in your area. They will most likely be cheaper then an Optician, who works at a Retail Store.

Optometrists are Doctors, so they have more then making money off you as motivation, and must charge cost for all prescription eyewear (plus dispensing fee). Worth doing a price comparison if you have to get an eye exam anyway.

forreal
Jan 18th, 2006, 02:25 PM
Frames (50% off) = $160
Frames brand = Emporio Armani
Lenses = $180
Lenses = Glass 1.8 index (very thin!)
Total: $340

BTW Glass is available at 1.9 thickness too but at about $280 (much more than 1.8!)

Where did you buy your glasses from? I also live in Vancouver and that does sound like a good deal.

I bought my glasses recently from Bay Optical--Kenneth Cole $135 frames (50% off) and lenses were 1.67 high index Nikon plastic. The lenses were also 50% off, but I can't remember how much they cost. I just know that the total package (frames, lenses, AR coating, etc.) cost $440.

For 50% off both frames and lenses, I thought it would be cheaper than that. Actually, I had to get rid of some extras to reduce the price from $580, such as getting the basic AR coating instead of Teflon and not getting "edge smoothing" (I think it's called) for the lenses. You only "need" edge smoothing for rimless glasses, right, or is that just a vanity thing? (My glasses were not rimless.)

Btw, in the top-left corner of my left lens, I can sort of see what looks like a small "s" logo, although it's probably an "n"--is that Nikon's logo?

P.S. I had to return the glasses because there was a weird vertical-streaking pattern in a small area on both lenses. I tried to clean it off, but it seems that it's in the coating itself.

ah_long
Jan 18th, 2006, 02:48 PM
You get the logo if and only if the lens were cut at Nikon's lab in Montreal. Most eye glass places just buys the lens in bulk and grind it themselves, and in that case you will not see the logo

Got this info from Nikon in Montreal.

not neccesarily, although private labs would grind the lenses, the lenses came precoated... and it's the coating that gives you the logo... Nikon Lab in Montreal uses the same lenses thus both labs should give you similar results...

Mr. Bean
Jan 18th, 2006, 03:30 PM
Where did you buy your glasses from? I also live in Vancouver and that does sound like a good deal.

I bought my glasses recently from Bay Optical--Kenneth Cole $135 frames (50% off) and lenses were 1.67 high index Nikon plastic. The lenses were also 50% off, but I can't remember how much they cost. I just know that the total package (frames, lenses, AR coating, etc.) cost $440.


Your deal sounds pretty good too. If you paid $135 for frames and approx $300 for high-index plastic, that's not too bad. Now that you have a good reference point, it's a good time to shop around.

BTW, I found that big chains like Bay Optical, Lenscrafter, etc. usually have a lot more of the older or "classic" (that's the PC term right :D ) styles and not as many of the new styles & designers. Too much inventory & not enough volume... IRIS usually has newer stuff though but prices are $$$.

I got my glasses at CitySquare Mall (Cambie & 12th) in Vancouver. Place is called EyeDol. They're fairly new at that location - been open for 1 year. They have a good selection - all new styles and all designer stuff.

You should be able to find something you like.

Daijoubu
Jan 18th, 2006, 07:28 PM
Anyplace in MTL where I can get a MIJ frame? Yes, Made In Japan :D

The semi-frameless silver/blue glass I'm wearing are now over 6 years old and they're still not broken after daily abuse so perhaps I should get another one from japan

It's about time I get a new prescription :) Maybe I should keep the frame and just get new lenses...

GaryReno
Jan 23rd, 2006, 01:11 PM
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rhainman
Jan 23rd, 2006, 01:37 PM
Optometrists are Doctors

Opthalmologists are doctors, not optometrists. If they are called doctor, they're as much a doctor as a chiropractor is.

i8thesandbox
Jan 23rd, 2006, 03:21 PM
Optometrists are doctors because they can prescribe therapeutics and diagnose. Just because they do not preform surgery does not indicate they are not doctors. If that is the case, what is a General Practitioner, Psychiatrist etc? To be honest, I have been to an ophthalmologist and Optometrist. The ophthalmologist didnt give me the time and day and I was treated like a number. At least the optometrist sat down with me to ascertain all occular problems and solutions with me.

aquariaguy
Jan 23rd, 2006, 03:30 PM
Opthalmologists are doctors, not optometrists. If they are called doctor, they're as much a doctor as a chiropractor is.


Excuse me? Optometrists aren't doctors? You know from the eye, we can tell if u have high blood pressure, diabetes, cataracts, tumors... We are doctors. We work in hospitals, clinics, and laser centres. you do know optometrist are the ones resposible for you pre- and post-surgery most of the time from laser eye and cataract surgery. The Canadian government recognizes us as doctors, which is why people have OHIP for eye exams (kids and the elderly now).

We are primary health care providers. We are not like chiropractors.


Ophthalmologists are surgeons.

forreal
Jan 23rd, 2006, 07:14 PM
You're a doctor if you've earned a doctorate from a post-secondary educational institution. Simple enough?

If you've earned a doctoral degree in medicine, then you're a doctor. If you've earned a doctoral degree in optometry, then you're a doctor. It's not restricted to the health sciences, either. If you've earned a doctoral degree in music, then you're a Doctor of Music and you've earned the right to be called a doctor.

That's all there is to it. Now, back on topic...

GaryReno
Jan 26th, 2006, 02:46 AM
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cko64
Jan 26th, 2006, 03:10 AM
The following people are not doctors.

Chiropractors are not doctors – they're "physical therapists+."

Optometrists are not doctors. Optometrists do for the eyes what audiologists do for the ears. If audiologists aren't doctors (and they aren't), then optometrists aren't doctors. Simple logic and fair play.

http://www.medhunters.com/articles/misuseOfTitleDoctor.html

Why some people would want to misuse the title of doctor? Don't they feel shame?

superpal3
Jan 26th, 2006, 04:10 AM
Great post....thanks. :)

advantage21
Jan 26th, 2006, 12:21 PM
[QUOTE=aquariaguy]Excuse me? Optometrists aren't doctors?
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We are primary health care providers. We are not like chiropractors.
[QUOTE]

Can you issue a prescription for medical drugs? If not, you're not a physician. BTW, a "doctor" is not a profession, it's a degree.

forreal
Jan 26th, 2006, 05:36 PM
The following people are not doctors.

Chiropractors are not doctors - they're "physical therapists+."

Optometrists are not doctors. Optometrists do for the eyes what audiologists do for the ears. If audiologists aren't doctors (and they aren't), then optometrists aren't doctors. Simple logic and fair play.

http://www.medhunters.com/articles/misuseOfTitleDoctor.html

Why some people would want to misuse the title of doctor? Don't they feel shame?

The person who wrote that letter (see the above link) is trying to define who is a doctor based on her own criteria, but I admit that the majority of people probably view it the same way as she does.

In the academic world, a doctor is anyone who has earned a doctorate degree in whatever area. In the so-called real world, a doctor is that dude who walks around in a hospital or a clinic wearing a white lab coat with a stethoscope around his neck and who has a serious God complex :). If you tell Mr. Joe Average that someone with a doctorate in music can also be called a doctor, he'll probably repeat "does not compute" until his head explodes.

In everyday conversation, there's no need to confuse people with the academic definition of who a doctor is. Mr. Joe Average doesn't need someone to tell him who a doctor is. It's obvious--he knows one when he sees one. The fun begins, however, when you try to exactly define that "common sense" notion: "Well, doctors are physicians and surgeons. But what about dentists? They're kind of like surgeons. What about optometrists? They're kind of like physicians." And that leads to silly debates like the one in this thread.

For an exact and unambiguous definition, you have to use the academic definition. The problem is, the general public will be puzzled by it. What can you do? Best not to talk about it. :)

canadiantofu
Jan 26th, 2006, 05:50 PM
A person who has a degree and has undertaken years of research and has published their work and been assessed, may be awarded a PhD and can use the title of Doctor. This is a specialist degree that is usually awarded for at least 3 years of supervised, but original research work. All research students starting Ph.D. research would expect to hold a good degree first. A person with a Ph.D. degree uses the title "Dr"

www.sfll.mmu.ac.uk/sflldemo_small/glossary/gloss_p.html


If you want to go more specific... then the Doctor that you describe should really be refered to MD.. as in Medical Doctor.

forreal
Jan 26th, 2006, 06:10 PM
Just remember that doctorates include, but are not exclusive to, Ph.D.s and M.D.s

jdi_knght
Jan 30th, 2006, 07:15 PM
Well as I said in the first post, I placed orders with both 39dollarglasses and with goggles4u, and here are the results so far.

I received the glasses from 39dollarglasses.com a week ago, and they had a very fine scratch in one of the lenses (AR coating I'm guessing) which was almost impossible to see, but both visible and annoying when the light hit it the right way. I sent them back, and they're going to remake the lens, so I'll give more details when I get them back again.

The glasses from Goggles4u I received today (took 19 days in total). I got semi-rimless frames, and tinted lenses, since they didn't cost any extra. For the most part they seem pretty good, except that it looks like they slipped in one place when cutting the groove for the clear line that runs around the edge of the lens. Nothing major (it's only cosmetic, and the only one who will ever notice will be me), but of course I'm always hoping for things to be absolutely perfect ;)

Anyway, I threw all the info up on http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com
(or for the lazy, http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/goggles4u2.htm)

There are pictures of the packaging, glasses and everything.

I know it's already been answered, but for those who might have missed it or were still unsure, there was no duty on either of the glasses. The goggles4u glasses were only about $30 anyway, but the 39dollarglasses ones were about $190 after exchange, and I thought for sure I'd be hit with duty, but it would seem not.

Anyway, good luck to anyone else who's been buying online, and please post if/when you guys get your stuff in. I also have an order in with optical4less I'm expecting soon, so i'll post details when I get that in, and let everyone know how things turn out with 39dollarglasses as well.

Jacka
Jan 30th, 2006, 09:57 PM
thanks very much jdi_knght, i will try order online in the future too :)


Well as I said in the first post, I placed orders with both 39dollarglasses and with goggles4u, and here are the results so far.

I received the glasses from 39dollarglasses.com a week ago, and they had a very fine scratch in one of the lenses (AR coating I'm guessing) which was almost impossible to see, but both visible and annoying when the light hit it the right way. I sent them back, and they're going to remake the lens, so I'll give more details when I get them back again.

The glasses from Goggles4u I received today (took 19 days in total). I got semi-rimless frames, and tinted lenses, since they didn't cost any extra. For the most part they seem pretty good, except that it looks like they slipped in one place when cutting the groove for the clear line that runs around the edge of the lens. Nothing major (it's only cosmetic, and the only one who will ever notice will be me), but of course I'm always hoping for things to be absolutely perfect ;)

Anyway, I threw all the info up on http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com
(or for the lazy, http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/goggles4u2.htm)

There are pictures of the packaging, glasses and everything.

I know it's already been answered, but for those who might have missed it or were still unsure, there was no duty on either of the glasses. The goggles4u glasses were only about $30 anyway, but the 39dollarglasses ones were about $190 after exchange, and I thought for sure I'd be hit with duty, but it would seem not.

Anyway, good luck to anyone else who's been buying online, and please post if/when you guys get your stuff in. I also have an order in with optical4less I'm expecting soon, so i'll post details when I get that in, and let everyone know how things turn out with 39dollarglasses as well.

SomeGuyGG
Jan 30th, 2006, 11:24 PM
Whoa, that package looks sketchy, lol

http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/images/goggles4u/goggles4uenvback.jpg

Cloth written with marker on it, hehe

advantage21
Jan 31st, 2006, 01:13 AM
Thanks Jdi, I was wary about buying prescription glasses online, but decided to give Goggles4u a try since the prices are so irresistable. I also order a pair of semi rimless with sunglasess tint for under $30 (with the 5% discount coupon code). I'll be buying a few more pairs if it works out.

Thanks again to Jdi and the OP for opening my eyes :D

aquariaguy
Jan 31st, 2006, 01:36 AM
Can you issue a prescription for medical drugs? If not, you're not a physician. BTW, a "doctor" is not a profession, it's a degree.

In the US we can prescribe drugs for oral and topical.

In Ontario we can't. Other provinces you can prescibe orals only I think or other way around. Canada is kinda backwards when it comes to this, especially Ontario, which is why students at Waterloo (only opt. school in Canada) go to the US for training on using drugs.

So yes, by your definition we're physicians.

aquariaguy
Jan 31st, 2006, 01:46 AM
The following people are not doctors.

Chiropractors are not doctors – they're "physical therapists+."

Optometrists are not doctors. Optometrists do for the eyes what audiologists do for the ears. If audiologists aren't doctors (and they aren't), then optometrists aren't doctors. Simple logic and fair play.

http://www.medhunters.com/articles/misuseOfTitleDoctor.html

Why some people would want to misuse the title of doctor? Don't they feel shame?

In the U.S. and Canada and the W.H.O (World Health Organization) recognize Optometrist as doctors.

We also have provincial regulators which are required by law, by the College of Optometrists of Ontario and the Association.

http://www.aoa.org

Doctors of optometry (ODs) are the primary health care professionals for the eye. Optometrists examine, diagnose, treat, and manage diseases, injuries, and disorders of the visual system, the eye, and associated structures as well as identify related systemic conditions affecting the eye.

* Doctors of Optometry prescribe medications, low vision rehabilitation, vision therapy, spectacle lenses, contact lenses, and perform certain surgical procedures.

* Optometrists counsel their patients regarding surgical and non-surgical options that meet their visual needs related to their occupations, avocations, and lifestyle.

* An optometrist has completed pre-professional undergraduate education in a college or university and four years of professional education at a college of optometry, leading to the doctor of optometry (O.D.) degree. Some optometrists complete an optional residency in a specific area of practice.

* Optometrists are eye health care professionals state-licensed to diagnose and treat diseases and disorders of the eye and visual system.

aquariaguy
Jan 31st, 2006, 02:02 AM
Opthalmologists are doctors, not optometrists. If they are called doctor, they're as much a doctor as a chiropractor is.

Ophthalmologists are surgeons. Eye specialists.
Oncologists are cancer specialists. Cancer doctors.

Optometrist are eye doctors.
Chiro's are spine doctors.
Dentist are mouth doctors.
Audiologists are ear doctors.

Get it? Good.

When you go for laser eye surgery, you know optometrists are the ones that actually take care of you. The ophthalmologists just walk in the room, do the surgery and leave. That's the only time you'll see them.

mrken
Jan 31st, 2006, 03:37 AM
The ophthalmologists just walk in the room, do the surgery and leave. That's the only time you'll see them.
I love that last part. I thought that people going for eye surgery are already blind without their glasses. So how would they see their ophthalmologists when their glasses are off? :razz:

By the way, there are engineering doctors. :confused: Or should I say doctorates. :D

pothia
Jan 31st, 2006, 06:50 AM
It's still hideously expensive to just get new lenses. I lost my glasses recently, and started wearing my old, scratched up pair again. I got one of the 2-for-1 deals at Shopper's Optical last time, and got two pairs of glasses for about $520. I went back there to see how much a replacement pair would be, and they quoted me $460 for one pair. I could just get new lenses put in my old frames, but even that was $260 ($230 for the lenses, $30 "fitting fee" because I didn't buy their frames.)

I checked out several other places, and there were all within $50 of that price.

I wonder if I could send my old frames to one of these mail-order places and get just new lesnes? The hardest part about getting new glasses is finding frames that look decent.

Damn, I swear I was just thinking about getting the frame off net and get the lenses from the local retailers like Lenscrafters.
Can anyone tell me if Lenscrafters is any good? How much would it be if I just get the lenses from them? They would probably rip me off since I don't get the frame,eh?

pothia
Jan 31st, 2006, 07:15 AM
I don't know how you guys can buy glasses on line... Yeah they're cheap, but like all things in life though, you get what you pay for.

First of all...Have you ever had a pair of glasses with the wrong PD or prescription??!! I have (no thanks to Laurier Optical), and all you get is headaches... seriously, they literally will give you headaches. Your eyes end up straining so much to adapt to incorrect lenses that it gives you headahces,

Secondly... You must not care what you look like, cause it takes me hours to find the right frame. I even look for ones that are the same size as the ones I already have, and they still don't all fit the same.

Thirdly, How do you know what they gave you is right?... You would have to bring it back to an Optometrist or an Optician to have them double check. As mentioned briefly above, I have had Laurier Optical give me the wrong lenses, I guess they didn't even double check.

The best luck I have had is at My Eye Doctor (Optometrist) who happens to dispense (sell) glasses as well. You would have to go to one that works in their own practice, not beside a Lenscrafters or Laurier Optical....Everything they have is sold at cost!! that's right I got a pair of

$90 Armani's ($400 at some Optical downtown)
$59 Lenses were $59 (1.56 with anti-reflective, anti-scratch coating)
$90 dispensing fee (kinda like when you get prescription drugs filled)
---------------------
$239 (no tax on prescription eyewear) for a set of Armani's! (so I am a little Image conscious)

I don't know why people go to Opticals... even with there "sales" they are still marked up because they marked them up so high in the first place. And the really cheap is cheap for a reason (quality and looks).

Just my $0.02

k. First of all, isn't Laurier just like any other local retailer? Why wouldn't they take your PD measurement and correct your lense problems when you didn't feel right?

And would you mind telling me where your optometrist's store is?
Thanks

pothia
Jan 31st, 2006, 07:35 AM
Also, i was wondering if it would be a lot cheaper if I just go over to the States to get a pair or 2 of prescribed glasses? Everything in the US just seems a lot cheaper to me since there's much more competitions.

squall458
Jan 31st, 2006, 08:17 AM
Well as I said in the first post, I placed orders with both 39dollarglasses and with goggles4u, and here are the results so far.

I received the glasses from 39dollarglasses.com a week ago, and they had a very fine scratch in one of the lenses (AR coating I'm guessing) which was almost impossible to see, but both visible and annoying when the light hit it the right way. I sent them back, and they're going to remake the lens, so I'll give more details when I get them back again.

The glasses from Goggles4u I received today (took 19 days in total). I got semi-rimless frames, and tinted lenses, since they didn't cost any extra. For the most part they seem pretty good, except that it looks like they slipped in one place when cutting the groove for the clear line that runs around the edge of the lens. Nothing major (it's only cosmetic, and the only one who will ever notice will be me), but of course I'm always hoping for things to be absolutely perfect ;)

Anyway, I threw all the info up on http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com
(or for the lazy, http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/goggles4u2.htm)

There are pictures of the packaging, glasses and everything.

I know it's already been answered, but for those who might have missed it or were still unsure, there was no duty on either of the glasses. The goggles4u glasses were only about $30 anyway, but the 39dollarglasses ones were about $190 after exchange, and I thought for sure I'd be hit with duty, but it would seem not.

Anyway, good luck to anyone else who's been buying online, and please post if/when you guys get your stuff in. I also have an order in with optical4less I'm expecting soon, so i'll post details when I get that in, and let everyone know how things turn out with 39dollarglasses as well.


Did you manually fill in your prescription or did you scan it and sent it in as a pic? The prescription part and my measurement of my eyes is the only part holding me back from trying this.

aquariaguy
Jan 31st, 2006, 08:25 AM
Also, i was wondering if it would be a lot cheaper if I just go over to the States to get a pair or 2 of prescribed glasses? Everything in the US just seems a lot cheaper to me since there's much more competitions.

I doubt that it'll be much cheaper. Mainly depends on lenses...which vary greatly depending on prescription.

IF you want cheap designer, go to Pacific Mall. Althought it might seem so "sneaky" and "sketchy", they do have the cheapest prices for good quality frames such as Prada's. (Just watch out for Mui Mui cuz those are made in China, since they are made by Prada)

Just my $0.08 cents.

ThirteenInchMags
Jan 31st, 2006, 10:34 AM
I doubt that it'll be much cheaper. Mainly depends on lenses...which vary greatly depending on prescription.

IF you want cheap designer, go to Pacific Mall. Althought it might seem so "sneaky" and "sketchy", they do have the cheapest prices for good quality frames such as Prada's. (Just watch out for Mui Mui cuz those are made in China, since they are made by Prada)

Just my $0.08 cents.

In almost all of your posts you insult products Made In China.
I agree that certain things have medium to low grade quality. However, you shouldn't assume that EVERYTHING is made like that. Just my $0.08 cents.

aquariaguy
Jan 31st, 2006, 11:33 AM
In almost all of your posts you insult products Made In China.
I agree that certain things have medium to low grade quality. However, you shouldn't assume that EVERYTHING is made like that. Just my $0.08 cents.

When it comes to FRAMES (EYEGLASSES), I believe Made in China products are lower quality. It's not just from experience but from knowing the optical business as well. I'm not assuming about this, I'm telling the truth. You don't have to agree with me on this, I'm just giving my honest opinion (though you may not care). :)

I never assumed EVERYTHING is made like that. I never mentioned anything about cars, clothes, chairs, computers, tech. stuff. So you don't assume that I said EVERYTHING that is Made in China is cheap.

And that's my $0.08 cents. :)

Advantage22
Jan 31st, 2006, 12:17 PM
Did you manually fill in your prescription or did you scan it and sent it in as a pic? The prescription part and my measurement of my eyes is the only part holding me back from trying this.

Just decipher and fill in your prescription manually, it's easy:

http://www.39dollarglasses.com/help_topics/about_your_prescription.html

Measuring the PD is also easy, just get a rule and a couple of toothpicks. Hold the ruler under your eye level and slide the toothpicks until they are centered on your pupil, then take the measurement.

digdoug
Jan 31st, 2006, 01:02 PM
Just decipher and fill in your prescription manually, it's easy:

http://www.39dollarglasses.com/help_topics/about_your_prescription.html

Measuring the PD is also easy, just get a rule and a couple of toothpicks. Hold the ruler under your eye level and slide the toothpicks until they are centered on your pupil, then take the measurement.

and wind up poking your eyes out, like this --> ;)

from the way you guys are defending opthalmologists, some of you must be ops. any one of you care to give a free eye exam to a poor sod like me so I can get my prescription updated? eastern toronto, anyone? :cheesygri

Advantage22
Jan 31st, 2006, 01:48 PM
and wind up poking your eyes out, like this --> ;)


The trick is the keep the toothpics in front of your eyes instead of into them.

;)

pothia
Jan 31st, 2006, 02:13 PM
I doubt that it'll be much cheaper. Mainly depends on lenses...which vary greatly depending on prescription.

IF you want cheap designer, go to Pacific Mall. Althought it might seem so "sneaky" and "sketchy", they do have the cheapest prices for good quality frames such as Prada's. (Just watch out for Mui Mui cuz those are made in China, since they are made by Prada)

Just my $0.08 cents.

I am specifically looking for D&G frames. Does P mall have lots of those? Whats the price range?
Besides, I incline to find a frame that's extremely flexible (movable temples) simply because I play bball regularly and have destroyed 2 pairs in the past 2 yr. Does any of the brand name company make those? I know I am kinda greedy as I want a brand name frame which also compromises flexibility.

Also, would someone PLEASE go back to page 9 and answer my questions regarding Lenscrafter.

Thanks a million.

aquariaguy
Jan 31st, 2006, 03:14 PM
I am specifically looking for D&G frames. Does P mall have lots of those? Whats the price range?
Besides, I incline to find a frame that's extremely flexible (movable temples) simply because I play bball regularly and have destroyed 2 pairs in the past 2 yr. Does any of the brand name company make those? I know I am kinda greedy as I want a brand name frame which also compromises flexibility.

Also, would someone PLEASE go back to page 9 and answer my questions regarding Lenscrafter.

Thanks a million.

Regarding your Lenscrafter question, i'm sure you could buy the frame seperately, but than, i guess the other optical has to adjust it for u? (when u get lenses) Also, when warranty comes into play, i dunno how that will work, since an optical could say the lenses from the other store messed it up (something stupid like that).

I'm not sure of the prices at Pacific mall, but go there to check it out one day. They have TONS of deisnger frames, mostly all in the "windows" and if you go inside they have the "cheaper" ones. You'll find something you like. But about the price...you gotta shop around :) I think there's 4 opticals in pac. mall. Now, the service may not be...good. But i guess thats the trade-off?

ah_long
Jan 31st, 2006, 03:21 PM
.... I think there's 4 opticals in pac. mall....

12 to be specific

ertman
Jan 31st, 2006, 05:36 PM
Measuring the PD is also easy, just get a rule and a couple of toothpicks. Hold the ruler under your eye level and slide the toothpicks until they are centered on your pupil, then take the measurement.

It's even easier to go into a random glasses store in the mall and just ask them to measure your pupil distance. I did this at two places just to compare the measurements. No hassles at all, just don't go in when they are super busy.

RTC
Jan 31st, 2006, 07:01 PM
Opthalmologists are doctors, not optometrists. If they are called doctor, they're as much a doctor as a chiropractor is.
http://www.optometry.uwaterloo.ca/
^ Please read and tell me what OD means. But then again, Mr. Smitherman believes they are terrorists...



Optometrists are not doctors. Optometrists do for the eyes what audiologists do for the ears. If audiologists aren't doctors (and they aren't), then optometrists aren't doctors. Simple logic and fair play.
^ I suggest you get actual facts, not propaganda written by an individual to a company that is obviously trying to make money off placing medical professionals


Hmm.... well, it looks like "aquariaguy" took care of all the right answers. I'll stop now :) Just see posts #129 to #131

pothia
Jan 31st, 2006, 07:40 PM
Regarding your Lenscrafter question, i'm sure you could buy the frame seperately, but than, i guess the other optical has to adjust it for u? (when u get lenses) Also, when warranty comes into play, i dunno how that will work, since an optical could say the lenses from the other store messed it up (something stupid like that).

I'm not sure of the prices at Pacific mall, but go there to check it out one day. They have TONS of deisnger frames, mostly all in the "windows" and if you go inside they have the "cheaper" ones. You'll find something you like. But about the price...you gotta shop around :) I think there's 4 opticals in pac. mall. Now, the service may not be...good. But i guess thats the trade-off?


Thanks for the response. But what I was really asking was that if Lenscrafter would rip you off big time since you don't get the frame from them. Like, if the lenses normally cost $100 will it be $170 in my situation.

aquariaguy
Jan 31st, 2006, 07:43 PM
Thanks for the response. But what I was really asking was that if Lenscrafter would rip you off big time since you don't get the frame from them. Like, if the lenses normally cost $100 will it be $170 in my situation.


Ooh...

Well I don't even know if they would allow that to happen. I'm not sure if they have a set cost for the lenses... Because say if you get lenses from them, are they the ones that "fit" the frames on you, since you didn't buy it from them?

Good question....hmm... anyone know?

Safflon
Feb 1st, 2006, 01:25 AM
I know that they will just sell you the lens. I went in to ask about replacing the old prescription in my current glasses (a few years ago). They said they could do it. I was even told that if I had lenses I liked, they could possibly shave it down to fit smaller frames. I don't recall any mention of a fitting fee... It was probably negligible in the whole scheme of getting glasses.

As to the ripping you off bit... They offer package deals alot of the times, but if you don't like the selection of their frames and choose more expensive frames, they just work those into the cost somehow. They calculated the cost of my lenses and the cost of my frames separately on my sales receipt (I got both lenses and frames at the same place).

Did this help?

superpal3
Feb 1st, 2006, 04:54 AM
:razz:

Enthrash
Feb 2nd, 2006, 12:48 AM
Well, I took the plunge and ordered from Goggles4u. I got my rimless glasses today and they fit perfect. Build quality is as good or better than anything I've purchased here in Canada. Frame says "Samsonite Design Italy" on them if that means anything to anyone.

A tip for anyone else trying to order: Try on some frames at the mall in a similar style and size you wish to order. After finding a suitable frame, simply write down the measurements as written along the inside of the frame arms. These measurements are the most crucial. Once you have these you can usually get the fit bang on for the given style you have the measurements for.

Here's an example (taken from a "rimless" style):
48 # 18-137 (the # is really a little square box on the actual frame arm).

- The first number (48mm) is the lense width
- The second number (18mm) is the bridge width (the part which rests on the bridge of your nose)
- The third number (137mm) is the frame "front length", (i.e. the length of the frame if you look at the glasses head on)

The only other number which you won't get from here is the lense height. Here you can use some artistic license, as this varies depending on the style you are aiming for. Generally this should be around your "eye socket" height.

Anyhow hope this helps! Awesome deal. I just ordered my second pair from these guys :).

Rich...

jory29
Feb 2nd, 2006, 01:37 AM
Well, I took the plunge and ordered from Goggles4u. I got my rimless glasses today and they fit perfect. Build quality is as good or better than anything I've purchased here in Canada. Frame says "Samsonite Design Italy" on them if that means anything to anyone.

A tip for anyone else trying to order: Try on some frames at the mall in a similar style and size you wish to order. After finding a suitable frame, simply write down the measurements as written along the inside of the frame arms. These measurements are the most crucial. Once you have these you can usually get the fit bang on for the given style you have the measurements for.

Here's an example (taken from a "rimless" style):
48 # 18-137 (the # is really a little square box on the actual frame arm).

- The first number (48mm) is the lense width
- The second number (18mm) is the bridge width (the part which rests on the bridge of your nose)
- The third number (137mm) is the frame "front length", (i.e. the length of the frame if you look at the glasses head on)

The only other number which you won't get from here is the lense height. Here you can use some artistic license, as this varies depending on the style you are aiming for. Generally this should be around your "eye socket" height.

Anyhow hope this helps! Awesome deal. I just ordered my second pair from these guys :).

Rich...

Dude, you rock! Thanks for the detailed explanation. Now I'll have to go buy a pair, since I should be able to find one with similar measurements as my own pair of Beloved fit glasses. Thanks!! :)

gordholio
Feb 2nd, 2006, 03:31 AM
Well, I took the plunge and ordered from Goggles4u. I got my rimless glasses today and they fit perfect. Build quality is as good or better than anything I've purchased here in Canada. Frame says "Samsonite Design Italy" on them if that means anything to anyone.

A tip for anyone else trying to order: Try on some frames at the mall in a similar style and size you wish to order. After finding a suitable frame, simply write down the measurements as written along the inside of the frame arms. These measurements are the most crucial. Once you have these you can usually get the fit bang on for the given style you have the measurements for.

Here's an example (taken from a "rimless" style):
48 # 18-137 (the # is really a little square box on the actual frame arm).

- The first number (48mm) is the lense width
- The second number (18mm) is the bridge width (the part which rests on the bridge of your nose)
- The third number (137mm) is the frame "front length", (i.e. the length of the frame if you look at the glasses head on)

The only other number which you won't get from here is the lense height. Here you can use some artistic license, as this varies depending on the style you are aiming for. Generally this should be around your "eye socket" height.

Anyhow hope this helps! Awesome deal. I just ordered my second pair from these guys :).

Rich...


How did you get the glasses without paying any duty or customs?
I thought if you imported something over $20, that you had to pay duty.

Enthrash
Feb 2nd, 2006, 07:46 PM
How did you get the glasses without paying any duty or customs?
I thought if you imported something over $20, that you had to pay duty.

Not really sure :). Unless there's something about them being glasses that makes them exempt....no clue. Or maybe they were hesitant to open a package coming from such an "Osama Bin Laden friendly" part of the world? :D

In any case, even with PST/GST it's an amazing deal.

Rich...

advantage21
Feb 2nd, 2006, 11:59 PM
How did you get the glasses without paying any duty or customs?
I thought if you imported something over $20, that you had to pay duty.

I haven't had to pay duty on anything I ordered (20-25 items from Ebay, up to $200) for the last 3 years.

cko64
Feb 3rd, 2006, 12:39 AM
In almost all of your posts you insult products Made In China.
I agree that certain things have medium to low grade quality. However, you shouldn't assume that EVERYTHING is made like that. Just my $0.08 cents.
Yeah, this aqua guy always insult Chinese. I am Chinese and I certainly feel offended by this racist remarks. I have a feeling he is also Chinese and he is the lowest kind of racist who look down on his kind. He always bad mouth Chinese. If he is standing next to me, I wouldn't hesitate to beat the crap out of him.

gordholio
Feb 3rd, 2006, 01:08 AM
I haven't had to pay duty on anything I ordered (20-25 items from Ebay, up to $200) for the last 3 years.
I think you got lucky. I bought a motherboard from the United States for about $30 CDN and the shipping was about $20 CDN.
When it was delivered, I had to pay an extra $22 for customs. What a ripoff (for a $30 item)!

gordholio
Feb 3rd, 2006, 01:10 AM
Many products nowadays that are made in China are of top quality.
Look at digital cameras, televisions, etc. They're making the top brands (Sony, etc.) in China, so there's no issue with quality there.
There may be some issue with the no-name brands, but that applies with any country that makes no-name brands for cheap.

aquariaguy
Feb 3rd, 2006, 02:30 AM
Yeah, this aqua guy always insult Chinese. I am Chinese and I certainly feel offended by this racist remarks. I have a feeling he is also Chinese and he is the lowest kind of racist who look down on his kind. He always bad mouth Chinese. If he is standing next to me, I wouldn't hesitate to beat the crap out of him.

I always insult chinese? LOL ok there buddy. I'm only "dissing" the eyeglasses Made in China. That's all. If you want to keep assuming that i'm insulting other products so be it.

Why do you feel offended? Because you know they make inferior eyeglasses?

Someone has a bit too much pride.

sdzbwxp
Feb 3rd, 2006, 02:47 AM
I always insult chinese? LOL ok there buddy. I'm only "dissing" the eyeglasses Made in China. That's all. If you want to keep assuming that i'm insulting other products so be it.

Why do you feel offended? Because you know they make inferior eyeglasses?

Someone has a bit too much pride.

China does make cheap crappy eyeglasses, but only because there is need for it in the market.... BUT, China also make high quality eyeglasses...please don't just generalize....... I bought some cheap MADE IN CANADA coat hangers last weekend from Zellers....few of them broke before i put anything on them...oh, well..i can't just say..."Canada only makes crappy hangers"

I felt offended too, and I don't think i have "TOO MUCH PRIDE"

seasonpraises
Feb 7th, 2006, 10:30 PM
Wow, got my pair of glasses from goggles4u.com. I ordered on the 16th Jan, they shipped it on 19th Jan, and I received it today (Feb 7, Vancouver, BC). Although the shipping is taking a little bit long, but all I can say is I am extremely pleased with the quality of the glasses and their customer service.

I ordered a semi-rimless (metal frame on top half and rimless for bottom half) and a prescription of -9.00 (high power) on a brand name frame (MEXX optical, germany made). I forgot how I encounter this frame on their rather poorly designed website (but I guess I am lucky to come across it).

Glasses fit perfectly and frame is good quality. Although I see one little scratch on the frame (near the screws area) but not really noticeable from distance. Lenses are little bit thick (~4-5 mm at the thickest point at the edge of the lense), but I expected this from beginning. This is not an ultra-thin, ultra high index lense, but it does the job nonetheness. So I am happy and will order a few more (going to order sunglasses next) from goggles4u.com.

lilnymphie
Feb 8th, 2006, 12:20 AM
I also just got my glasses from goggles4u today. Packaging was indeed quite ghetto, but anyways...

I'm pretty happy with the look of the glasses. However, they seem to have bent one arm too far out, so instead of the arm and lenses forming 90 degrees, it looks more like 120. Maybe to remedy that, they screwed the screws on super super tight, so that to fully distend the arm to it's 120 degrees is very hard. It results in the arm successfully staying at 90 degrees enough so that you can wear it. BUT! this also means it's super hard for me to try to close the arms fully so I can put my glasses down.

__
| \ This is roughly what they look like top down with arms out.

Having said all that, I think bending the arm back looks to be a fairly easy feat. (I will obviously have it done at an optometrist with the hot sand etc.). Unscrewing the screws to make it less tight is also not problematic.

Just wanted to give you guys the full details.

Enthrash
Feb 8th, 2006, 12:44 AM
I also just got my glasses from goggles4u today. Packaging was indeed quite ghetto, but anyways...


Hahaha ya the packaging is old skool, but protects the product none-the-less. Hopefully I get my 2nd pair in the next week or so....

You'd think they'd market themselves a tad better and actually identify the brand name of the frames, since it appears alot of them are "name brands".

Rich...

ThirteenInchMags
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:04 AM
China does make cheap crappy eyeglasses, but only because there is need for it in the market.... BUT, China also make high quality eyeglasses...please don't just generalize....... I bought some cheap MADE IN CANADA coat hangers last weekend from Zellers....few of them broke before i put anything on them...oh, well..i can't just say..."Canada only makes crappy hangers"

I felt offended too, and I don't think i have "TOO MUCH PRIDE"

I totally agree. Some things are good some are bad. That goes for anything made anywhere. If you don't like it just dont buy it. You don't have to rub it in everyones faces that products made in China are of bad quality. We can be the judges for ourselves. Just my 2cents :)

setell
Feb 9th, 2006, 01:11 PM
For the people that have ordered online and received their glasses. How did you guys get your PD measurements? I just called Vogue and they won't give me my PD measurement from my last purchase with them. I used the mirror method like people have suggested but am not sure how accurate that will be and I don't want to cause any damage to my eyes.

setell
Feb 9th, 2006, 01:42 PM
Just found two more 5% off codes and they work too. Not sure when they expire but give it a try if the other one posted don't work. Codes are: RTP7EB and YRUBSV. I tried stacking these discount codes but it doesn't seem to work too.

Ozzy
Feb 9th, 2006, 03:48 PM
I haven't updated my prescription in years, how much does it cost nowadays?

jdi_knght
Feb 9th, 2006, 04:14 PM
For the people that have ordered online and received their glasses. How did you guys get your PD measurements? I just called Vogue and they won't give me my PD measurement from my last purchase with them. I used the mirror method like people have suggested but am not sure how accurate that will be and I don't want to cause any damage to my eyes.

I don't think an incorrect PD will actually *damage* your eyes, however it can definately strain them, making them sore and quite possibly causing headaches. Also, an incorrect PD could cause your vision to be distorted, possibly to the point where the glasses are useless to you.

If it's been awhile since your last checkup, I'd simply go to the optometrist and ask to get the PD written with your prescription. Otherwise, you could try walking into a local optical shop (either a small one or a bigger chain if they're not busy), and ask if they might do it for you for a small fee.

If you decide to stick with the mirror-method, I'd suggest you go with really cheap glasses at first, since you seem to be pretty unsure of the measurement. Get the cheapest frames and lenses you can find without any add-ons. At least that way it's not too much money down the drain if you get it wrong.

setell
Feb 9th, 2006, 04:26 PM
I don't think an incorrect PD will actually *damage* your eyes, however it can definately strain them, making them sore and quite possibly causing headaches. Also, an incorrect PD could cause your vision to be distorted, possibly to the point where the glasses are useless to you.

If it's been awhile since your last checkup, I'd simply go to the optometrist and ask to get the PD written with your prescription. Otherwise, you could try walking into a local optical shop (either a small one or a bigger chain if they're not busy), and ask if they might do it for you for a small fee.

If you decide to stick with the mirror-method, I'd suggest you go with really cheap glasses at first, since you seem to be pretty unsure of the measurement. Get the cheapest frames and lenses you can find without any add-ons. At least that way it's not too much money down the drain if you get it wrong.

Thanks for the insight. I got my eye doctor's office to give me the PD measurement they had when I got my glasses with them but it's from 2001 :( I'm just worried that my pupil's changed since 2001 because I measured myself to be 67mm but my eye doctor's office said they have 64mm on my file. I'm going to take your suggestion and go to a local optical store and ask if they'll do it for a small fee. Also my prescription is up to date, just 7 months old but my eye doctor don't do PD measurements.

(Bean)
Feb 9th, 2006, 04:43 PM
This sounds great - I don't understand people saying its too great a risk. What risk - don't go out for supper this Friday and buy a pair of glasses with what you saved. $30 isn't going to break the bank, even if you put $1 a day in a piggy bank each month you could buy a set. Even if you have coverage for one pair - I would get another as a spare from one of these cheap places. That way if one breaks or you are doing something that could damage them you have a cheap set.

The only real question I have is to do with the cost since these are meant to save money. Shipping is pretty clear but what about duty. Do they ship with UPS or anything like that? I don't want to get a duty charge as expensive as the glasses.

setell
Feb 9th, 2006, 04:47 PM
This sounds great - I don't understand people saying its too great a risk. What risk - don't go out for supper this Friday and buy a pair of glasses with what you saved. $30 isn't going to break the bank, even if you put $1 a day in a piggy bank each month you could buy a set. Even if you have coverage for one pair - I would get another as a spare from one of these cheap places. That way if one breaks or you are doing something that could damage them you have a cheap set.

I'm not doubting the price and how cheap it is but I'm worried about the proper measurements. A bad PD measurement might cause my eyes to go haywire and saving money on that pair of glasses will not bring my eyes back. But that's just my worries.

airodus
Feb 9th, 2006, 04:54 PM
I'm not doubting the price and how cheap it is but I'm worried about the proper measurements. A bad PD measurement might cause my eyes to go haywire and saving money on that pair of glasses will not bring my eyes back. But that's just my worries.

The worst that will happen is a headache. Glasses cannot actually damage your eyes unless they shatter and you get little shards of glass in your eye. Bad eyesight is caused by a deformation of your eye (it's not round enough). Glasses cannot physically affect your eyes, so they cannot contribute to bad eyesight. Neither can watching too much tv, video games or reading (common myths).

That said, this is looking very interesting, but I wonder what my options are since I have horrid eyesight. I'm at a -12 on each eye with an addition 3.5 astigmatism. I have the worst eyesight of anyone I know. My last pair of glasses costed $600 for high index plastic (not sure what the rating was).

Which place would be best for "specialty" lenses? I looked at goggles4u and they seemed a little vague when it actually came to the lenses. Like this is the most expensive lense type, and I have no idea what it means or how good it is (how thin, what rating, what the heck is Transition Grey)?

CR39 Material High Index with Transition Grey (Free Antiglare, UV and Scratch Free Coating.

marcus
Feb 9th, 2006, 04:58 PM
For the people that have ordered online and received their glasses. How did you guys get your PD measurements? I just called Vogue and they won't give me my PD measurement from my last purchase with them. I used the mirror method like people have suggested but am not sure how accurate that will be and I don't want to cause any damage to my eyes.
This may be bad but I went into Walmart when their optical place was dead and looked at frames (to get an idea of what I liked and what looked good on me) and when they asked if I needed anything I asked a few questions about frames and types of lenses that sort of thing and then I said that I heard there was a pupil distance and I had never seen that on any of my prescriptions and if I brought my prescription to them how would they know what it is. She showed me the thing you look in to do it. And I asked if I could try (she kind of looked at me wierd) but let me do it and I asked what mine was. Easy and free. Maybe not the most ethical but...

jdi_knght
Feb 9th, 2006, 05:18 PM
A bit of an update: according to the tracking info, the glasses I sent back to 39dollarglasses arrived there last week. I haven't heard back from them at all, so I'm assuming they're just remaking the lens and will then send them back to me. I'll probably send them an email early next week and see how things are progressing.

Also, the rimless glasses I ordered from Optical4less came in yesterday. The lenses are great, and the glasses are flawless. My only real concern was that the case they come in is really cheap thin plastic - the type that isn't at all flexible, and is usually pretty brittle in the cold. That in itself doesn't bug me, but there's also a slip of paper included that essentially states that Optical4less is not responsible for damage caused during shipping. So if the mailman (or mailwoman) were to drop the package in the snow and then accidently stepped on it, I would guess the glasses would be history. Both the cases I got with the glasses from 39dollar and goggles4u were tougher.

That aside, all in all, the glasses were really good. Good experience for me anyway. Just the risk of the package being damaged during shipping is the only thing that would worry me about future orders. Sorry if it seems like I'm nitpicking, but I just hate reading stories about people who receive glasses that have been destroyed. While it's probably rare, it does happen, and a little extra thought in packaging can go a long way in preventing it.

For anyone interested, I put up pics and a review on EyeglassRetailerRevews.com at:

www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/optical4less2.htm (http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/optical4less2.htm)

jdi_knght
Feb 9th, 2006, 05:26 PM
The worst that will happen is a headache. Glasses cannot actually damage your eyes unless they shatter and you get little shards of glass in your eye. Bad eyesight is caused by a deformation of your eye (it's not round enough). Glasses cannot physically affect your eyes, so they cannot contribute to bad eyesight. Neither can watching too much tv, video games or reading (common myths).

That said, this is looking very interesting, but I wonder what my options are since I have horrid eyesight. I'm at a -12 on each eye with an addition 3.5 astigmatism. I have the worst eyesight of anyone I know. My last pair of glasses costed $600 for high index plastic (not sure what the rating was).

Which place would be best for "specialty" lenses? I looked at goggles4u and they seemed a little vague when it actually came to the lenses. Like this is the most expensive lense type, and I have no idea what it means or how good it is (how thin, what rating, what the heck is Transition Grey)?

CR39 Material High Index with Transition Grey (Free Antiglare, UV and Scratch Free Coating.

As far as I know, the Transition Grey lenses are photochromic (tint automatically when exposed to UV rays, and lighten up automatically indoors). They don't have the registered trademark symbol listed, so I'm assuming they're not the name brand Transitions. Photochromic lenses are usually offered in either Grey or Brown, depending on the tint color you prefer.

More info on photochromic lenses is available at AllAboutVision.com and HowStuffWorks.com (first 2 results in a Google search):
www.allaboutvision.com/lenses/photochromic.htm (http://www.allaboutvision.com/lenses/photochromic.htm)
science.howstuffworks.com/question412.htm (http://science.howstuffworks.com/question412.htm)

airodus
Feb 9th, 2006, 05:27 PM
A bit of an update: according to the tracking info, the glasses I sent back to 39dollarglasses arrived there last week. I haven't heard back from them at all, so I'm assuming they're just remaking the lens and will then send it back to me. I'll probably send them an email early next week and see how things are progressing.

Also, the rimless glasses I ordered from Optical4less came in yesterday. The lenses are great, and the glasses are flawless. My only real concern was that the case they come in is really cheap thin plastic - the type that isn't at all flexible, and is usually pretty brittle in the cold. That in itself doesn't bug me, but there's also a slip of paper included that essentially states that Optical4less is not responsible for damage caused during shipping. So if the mailman (or mailwoman) were to drop the package in the snow and then accidently stepped on it, I would guess the glasses would be history. Both the cases I got with the glasses from 39dollar and goggles4u were tougher.

That aside, all in all, the glasses were really good. Good experience for me anyway. Just the risk of the package being damaged during shipping is the only thing that would worry me about future orders. For anyone interested, I put up pics and a review on EyeglassRetailerRevews.com at:

http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/optical4less2.htm

This is some freakin useful info man. Kudos.

weedb0y
Feb 9th, 2006, 05:37 PM
Thanks for the reviews. I also tried googles4u.com, lets see when the pair arrives!

Al Kaseltzer
Feb 9th, 2006, 06:12 PM
Which place would be best for "specialty" lenses? I looked at goggles4u and they seemed a little vague when it actually came to the lenses. Like this is the most expensive lense type, and I have no idea what it means or how good it is (how thin, what rating, what the heck is Transition Grey)?


Optical4less seems to have a lot of information on more specialized lenses, check out this page. (http://optical4less.com/index.cgi?sec=59NKnRdFnnA7b87D2mnV3fPhS5G9nZ&mode=lensdes) The prices shoot up a lot, but I guess it's all relative if you're already paying $600.

airodus
Feb 9th, 2006, 06:34 PM
Optical4less seems to have a lot of information on more specialized lenses, check out this page. (http://optical4less.com/index.cgi?sec=59NKnRdFnnA7b87D2mnV3fPhS5G9nZ&mode=lensdes) The prices shoot up a lot, but I guess it's all relative if you're already paying $600.

wow thanks. too many stores and pages to look through haha. this is perfect. wow, those super high 1.74 plastics look great. $199 US, but should be MUCH better than what i have now.

it sucks having such bad eyes. due to lense thickness, i can really only choose thick frames with small lenses. which basically means i have like 1/10 the frame choices that everyone else has.

Enthrash
Feb 9th, 2006, 06:58 PM
For the people that have ordered online and received their glasses. How did you guys get your PD measurements? I just called Vogue and they won't give me my PD measurement from my last purchase with them. I used the mirror method like people have suggested but am not sure how accurate that will be and I don't want to cause any damage to my eyes.

If your perscription doesn't note a PD measurement, leave it blank. Thats all there is to it.

Rich...

mrken
Feb 9th, 2006, 07:30 PM
That said, this is looking very interesting, but I wonder what my options are since I have horrid eyesight. I'm at a -12 on each eye with an addition 3.5 astigmatism. I have the worst eyesight of anyone I know. My last pair of glasses costed $600 for high index plastic (not sure what the rating was).
I am in a similar situation... Less myopia but higher astigmatism.

I am planning to get my main pair of glasses this summer from a local store (Optometrist store?) in Vancouver, and getting a second pair with some tint from one of the online retailers.

airodus
Feb 9th, 2006, 07:38 PM
I am in a similar situation... Less myopia but higher astigmatism.

I am planning to get my main pair of glasses this summer from a local store (Optometrist store?) in Vancouver, and getting a second pair with some tint from one of the online retailers.

I think I'm gonna try online first. If it works out, it will save me TONS of money down the road. It's worth a try, especially at these prices.

seasonpraises
Feb 9th, 2006, 08:48 PM
Just a quick question. Will the glass type lens be any thinner than the CR39 that is offered on Goggles4u.com? Anybody ordered the glass type lens from them before? I order the CR39 plastic and my eyes are -9.00. The lens is pretty thick (5mm at the edge).

Thanks in advance!

bellboy26
Feb 9th, 2006, 09:13 PM
Just a question I thought i could throw in.
Im getting some prescription sunglasses.
I wanted darker lenses so I was going to get regular lenses but they say Polarized is the only way to go.
I know it cost alot more. But is it that much better ignoring costs?

jdi_knght
Feb 9th, 2006, 09:31 PM
Just a quick question. Will the glass type lens be any thinner than the CR39 that is offered on Goggles4u.com? Anybody ordered the glass type lens from them before? I order the CR39 plastic and my eyes are -9.00. The lens is pretty thick (5mm at the edge).

Thanks in advance!

I inquired about the glass and CR39 lenses a few weeks ago, although I was asking about the Transitions lenses in particular (glass transitions are cheaper than the CR39). The response I got was as follows:

Dear Client,
Thank you for considering goggles4u.com for your eyewear shopping.
We are using 1.56 high index lenses with all orders.
Please feel free to contact us for further assistance.

Assuming this applies to all their lenses, glass or plastic, I think you would be better off with the CR39, as the glass would probably be a fair bit heavier. Then again, -9.00 sounds like it might be pretty thick/heavy either way, so you might want to look at a higher index lens from another retailer, but it's of course up to you to decide if it would be worth the additional cost. You could always email Goggles4u and ask if either would be thinner/lighter just to make sure (again their reply to me may have been regarding only the transitions lenses). Their email address is info@goggles4u.com. Good luck with whatever you decide.

jdi_knght
Feb 9th, 2006, 09:44 PM
Just a question I thought i could throw in.
Im getting some prescription sunglasses.
I wanted darker lenses so I was going to get regular lenses but they say Polarized is the only way to go.
I know it cost alot more. But is it that much better ignoring costs?

As far as I know, the only difference with Polarized lenses is that they have filters that block horizontal reflections (the type you'd normally get when driving or from water/sand on a beach during a sunny day).

If you spend a lot of hours on the road, or spend a lot of time out on the water, it might be worth it. It depends really on why you want darker glasses. If it's for looks, then I doubt the extra cost is worth it. You can get regular lenses tinted pretty dark. On the other hand, if you're contantly bothered by glare from the sun, it's worth looking into.

Just out of curiousity, who told you that polarized lenses are the only way to go?

bellboy26
Feb 9th, 2006, 10:15 PM
sears lol

lilnymphie
Feb 10th, 2006, 03:54 AM
For anyone interested, I put up pics and a review on EyeglassRetailerRevews.com at:

www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/optical4less2.htm (http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/optical4less2.htm)

Hey just to be totally anal, there are actually a few frames on goggles4u that are not $13 but $30. Just for the frame. For example these (http://www.goggles4u.com/detail.asp?pid=2907) . Don't know why that might be. This certain pair says Chanel, but there have been others I think that aren't otherwise branded that were $30. I haven't tried going all the way to payment screen to verify if it's indeed the price tho.

aromo
Feb 10th, 2006, 09:15 AM
Don't buy rimless glasses with a refractive index of 1.56. Go for 1.67 or 1.74.

1.56 rimless glasses are very thick. They will let a huge amount of light through the edges of the lenses.. which will give you a nasty prism effect along the edges: rainbows, bright light, which is harder to ignore than a black frame. This is the best reason to choose glasses with rims.

Thanks for the heads up!
I need to try frames before buying. With my first glasses I couldn't smile because my cheeks would touch the lenses.

I have a real nice Reebok frame I would like to get prescripted sunglass lenses for. Any place where I can get those at an affordable price?

jdi_knght
Feb 10th, 2006, 05:41 PM
I have a real nice Reebok frame I would like to get prescripted sunglass lenses for. Any place where I can get those at an affordable price?

Not sure if you mean a local place, or online store. If it's online, 39dollarglasses does. Go to their site, and click ProductInfo/UseYourOwnFrames from the menu bar they have for pricing info. SelectSpecs also does. From their help/FAQ section: Yes, We will be happy to put new lenses in your existing frames, just give us a call or send us an email stating your full prescription, and details about your frames, and we will quote you separately for this. SelectSpecs gave me some pricing info which you can find at www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/selectspecs.htm (http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/selectspecs.htm) . The pricing they gave me doesn't include tint though, so you'd have to get a final quote from them (also the pricing they gave me was based on the exchange rate at the time, so it might be a couple dollars higher or lower than it shows on the site).

Some of the other places might do the new lenses in frames as well, so you might be best to email each one and see.

Note that most of the places won't take responsibility if your frames get damaged in the process, so keep that in mind. It may be worth it to ask what their policy is in that regard. Good luck!

advantage21
Feb 10th, 2006, 11:48 PM
It's been exactly 2 weeks since I placed by order with Goggles4u. Since all the reviews so far has been positive, I can't wait for them to arrive. One thing I have noticed with Goggles4u is that the pictures on site seems to represent their entire inventory. When I first placed my order, I made a mistake in the prescription after I submitted the payment. Good thing the CC processing company allows you to cancel the order as long as it hasn't shipped. But when I went back to try to place another order for the same frames, it was gone. As well, a few of the frames I had bookmark as also gone, presumably someone else (with good taste :cheesygri ) had order them. And there are some frames, Chanel and Gucci, that are $30 instead of $12.99, which is still a great bargain if they are legit. :D

lilnymphie
Feb 11th, 2006, 01:39 AM
One thing I have noticed with Goggles4u is that the pictures on site seems to represent their entire inventory. When I went back to try to place another order for the same frames, it was gone. As well, a few of the frames I had bookmark as also gone, presumably someone else (with good taste :cheesygri ) had order them.

It might be possible that they are gone (one of the pairs I was looking for is also no longer there), or they might be renumbered. The first time I looked, the largest numbers there were 6000s. This time they were 9000s, but there were quite a few 9000s that I distinctly remember having seen before.

oyster_777
Feb 14th, 2006, 10:23 AM
Heres another Glasses website. They claim $19.00 for a pair.

I havent thoroughly checked the website but might be worth adding to the list.

Oyster_777

http://zennioptical.com/cart/home.php

lilnymphie
Feb 14th, 2006, 10:40 AM
Heres another Glasses website. They claim $19.00 for a pair.

I havent thoroughly checked the website but might be worth adding to the list.

Oyster_777

http://zennioptical.com/cart/home.php

I think this one's already in the review site.

digdoug
Feb 14th, 2006, 12:46 PM
Wow, got my pair of glasses from goggles4u.com. I ordered on the 16th Jan, they shipped it on 19th Jan, and I received it today (Feb 7, Vancouver, BC). Although the shipping is taking a little bit long, but all I can say is I am extremely pleased with the quality of the glasses and their customer service.

I ordered a semi-rimless (metal frame on top half and rimless for bottom half) and a prescription of -9.00 (high power) on a brand name frame (MEXX optical, germany made). I forgot how I encounter this frame on their rather poorly designed website (but I guess I am lucky to come across it).

Glasses fit perfectly and frame is good quality. Although I see one little scratch on the frame (near the screws area) but not really noticeable from distance. Lenses are little bit thick (~4-5 mm at the thickest point at the edge of the lense), but I expected this from beginning. This is not an ultra-thin, ultra high index lense, but it does the job nonetheness. So I am happy and will order a few more (going to order sunglasses next) from goggles4u.com.

did you get the cheapest lens (i.e. the thickest)? I have a prescription slightly less than yours, so I was curious how big they'd be. how much did you pay in total?

oyster_777
Feb 14th, 2006, 01:22 PM
I think this one's already in the review site.


Oops... you are correct. I'll be ok.

advantage21
Feb 15th, 2006, 11:23 PM
My Goggles4u glasses arrived today, after about 3 weeks since the initial order. The frames are exactly as pictured. The dimension of the frame and lense and frame are as stated on their website. The quality of the frames are very good, feels very sturdy. I ordered a "no name" brand, but the inside of the arms said it was made in Italy. It did take me about 30 min with a pair of needle nose pliers to adjust the noise bridge pads to make the frames sit on my face the way I want it to.

The lenses themselves are OK, the mounting grooves on one lense seems to be a bit off centered, but nothing anyone (other than me) will notice. No scratches or chips. The prescription is accurate, I can see clearly and does not have headaches after test wearing them for an hour now.

Overall, I'm impressed with this pair of specs. The quality is equal to the ones I buy locally for +$200 and I got it delivered for about $30 after using the 5% discount code from the OP's site. I would definitely order again from them.

SomeGuyyyyyy
Feb 16th, 2006, 09:14 PM
I just ordered some glasses from optical4less.com . I will post my results here as well. My order came to $35.15US. So we will see!

techwiz
Feb 16th, 2006, 09:15 PM
Still waiting for my order from Zenni Optical... getting impatient now... :mad:

ericlitvak
Feb 16th, 2006, 10:41 PM
Just received the glasses I ordered from Zenni Optical on January 17. It took a month.

I orderd a plastic frame and would advise against it. The frame is slightly warped so that one lens is tilted compared to the other. Upon removing them from the case, one temple arm was pointing downwards and required some strong bending to get the frame to be level when wearing them. Finally, they aren't exactly as depicted in the picture (part of the frame was supposed to be clear but it is black). To be fair, I have seen expensive brand name frames with similar imperfections in stores, but certainly wouldn't have bought them / kept them.

The lenses seem to be of good quality.

I wasn't expecting much at this price and they are mainly to wear around the house, so I'm not too disappointed, but I was still expecting a bit better based on reviews here.

By the way, the brand of the frame is Langtesi - Google tells us it is Chinese and I would bet that the lenses are made there too -- thus the long turnaround time because they are probably shipped from China to Zenni in the US, before being sent out to customers.

seasonpraises
Feb 17th, 2006, 01:21 AM
For single vision, there are only two choices: CR39 plastic or glass from Goggles4u.com. I would expect the glass to be around the same thickness as the CR39 ('cause the glass has an index of refraction of ~1.5, the CR39 has 1.57 (or close to that number)). Just to let you know, expect ~5mm at thickest part of the lens if you have -9.00 :lol:

If you need high index lens (thinner plastic) you need to order from other places, such as optical4less.com, but you are going to pay an extra $59USD (they charge extra for anything >+2.75 or <-2.75.)


did you get the cheapest lens (i.e. the thickest)? I have a prescription slightly less than yours, so I was curious how big they'd be. how much did you pay in total?

Sewert
Feb 17th, 2006, 02:19 PM
I was supposed to be going for Lasik surgery in... oh about 30 mins. i am rescheduling to put off shelling out $1400 right now.

So I just ordered some glasses... $47 incl. shiping. Let's see how long it takes and the quality, I am very eager to see this.

:D

TheHans
Feb 20th, 2006, 10:46 AM
My Goggles4u glasses arrived today, after about 3 weeks since the initial order. The frames are exactly as pictured. The dimension of the frame and lense and frame are as stated on their website. The quality of the frames are very good, feels very sturdy. I ordered a "no name" brand, but the inside of the arms said it was made in Italy. It did take me about 30 min with a pair of needle nose pliers to adjust the noise bridge pads to make the frames sit on my face the way I want it to.

The lenses themselves are OK, the mounting grooves on one lense seems to be a bit off centered, but nothing anyone (other than me) will notice. No scratches or chips. The prescription is accurate, I can see clearly and does not have headaches after test wearing them for an hour now.

Overall, I'm impressed with this pair of specs. The quality is equal to the ones I buy locally for +$200 and I got it delivered for about $30 after using the 5% discount code from the OP's site. I would definitely order again from them.

Hi,

Did you get charged duty at the border? Or did they ship right to your home without duty? Just curious...

The Hans

jdi_knght
Feb 20th, 2006, 01:55 PM
Hi,

Did you get charged duty at the border? Or did they ship right to your home without duty? Just curious...

The Hans

I don't know about everyone else, but so far I haven't been hit with any duty. I've received glasses from 39dollar, Goggles4u, and Optical4less so far.

TheHans
Feb 20th, 2006, 03:53 PM
Hi,

Has anyone seen a pair of frames that are that true ladies' cat's-eye style, like the ones you typically see secretaries wearing in movies from the 1950s? They probably have phony jewels on them in some fashion. I see them around, but I can't seem to see them on any of the sites on this thread.

The Hans

ericlitvak
Feb 20th, 2006, 05:41 PM
I don't know about everyone else, but so far I haven't been hit with any duty. I've received glasses from 39dollar, Goggles4u, and Optical4less so far.

In principle, prescription glasses are not taxable and not subject to any duties either, so you shouldn't get hit with any fee on importing them.

advantage21
Feb 20th, 2006, 10:06 PM
Hi,

Did you get charged duty at the border? Or did they ship right to your home without duty? Just curious...

The Hans

The package came right to the mailbox. No duty or other taxes.

ertman
Feb 21st, 2006, 08:09 PM
I just got my glasses from Zenni. Ordered on Jan 20th, arrived February 21st.

The first thing I noticed is while the charge $9 for shipping to Canada, the postage on the envelope is only $1.40 (yes, they come in an envelope.)

Inside the envelope the glasses are wrapped in a cleaning cloth, and are placed inside a hard plastic case with a magnetic closure. The case is nothing special, it probably won't last more than a couple of months, but does the job of protecting the glasses while they are shipped.

The frames needed quite a bit of tweaking to get them to fit properly - nose piece, arms, etc. Nothing unusual, and nothing broke when I bent everything into the right place.

The frames are nice, but I think that I got a bad lens. The left lens has quite a bit of distortion in it near the inside edge - makes it annoying to look at anything to my right side without turning my head. For looking straight ahead they are fine, but I will need to contact them about this one lens (the right lens does not have this problem.)

The anti-reflective coating seems exactly the same as that on my $400 glasses. It gives the lens a light green tint, but you don't notice that when you are wearing them. For an extra $5, the AR coating is worth it.

For under $40, they are a decent pair of glasses, but I don't think I could live with them as my only pair.

Casper
Feb 21st, 2006, 09:49 PM
Just got my 2nd pair of Zenni titanium's.
Quite pleased.
Only complaint, they didn't ship the replacment frames I ordered (for all of $12) to replace the ones I sat on. I called and they'll be shipped later this week.
Although an identical order, these fit a little different. Not BAD, but a little tighter.
Overall very pleased.

ericlitvak
Feb 21st, 2006, 10:42 PM
...but I think that I got a bad lens. The left lens has quite a bit of distortion in it near the inside edge - makes it annoying to look at anything to my right side without turning my head. For looking straight ahead they are fine, but I will need to contact them about this one lens (the right lens does not have this problem.)

My glasses from Zenni have this same problem... there is noticeable optical distortion when not looking directly through the center of the lenses, but it is in both lenses in my case.

Daijoubu
Feb 21st, 2006, 10:48 PM
Chromatic aberrations?

Like you see blue/red on the left/right side of edges?

ertman
Feb 22nd, 2006, 04:58 PM
Chromatic aberrations?

Like you see blue/red on the left/right side of edges?

Nope, the image is slightly compressed horizontally, and a bit blurry (like a slightly weaker prescription.) Only on the inside edge of the left lens, too.

Still waiting to hear back from them about it.

Enthrash
Feb 22nd, 2006, 05:07 PM
Well, just an update. Got my 2nd pair from Goggles4u.com (rimless style again). Arrived in ~ 3 weeks, and they are just as flawless as the first. No problems at all.

Rich...

duster
Feb 22nd, 2006, 05:32 PM
Edit:
I've got a site started listing a bunch of online retailers, some pricing, etc. Eventually I'll hopefully have some reviews of the actual glasses I receive. So far, there isn't a whole lot of content, but if anyone's interested (if nothing else, the pricing might be useful), it's at:
http://www.rtgenterprises.com/eyeglassretailerreviews/
Edit#2:
Optical4less somehow came across my review site and sent me a 5% off all purchases coupon code good for 1000 uses. It'll be up on the site shortly, but keep in mind, I have not ordered from them yet and can not vouch for Optical4less one way or the other.
Edit#3:
Rather than leeching off the space of rtgenterprises.com, I registered my own domain where all the reviews can now be found:
http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/

Nice site! I hope it will grow with a lot of reviews.

One suggestion...my only 2 cents...

It would be interesting to know more precise informations about these glasses you bought. Frame model would be very important, lens shape also...And a closer look of the glasses itself...Interesting to see the package, clamshell and stuff but I'm more concerned about the eyeglasses...

Exemple: I'm interested by the optical4less model you bought but I know nothing but "rimless" about the model...Since you can personally take better and closer pictures than the promotional one, it would be very interesting to see these eyeglasses properly.

By the way...nice idea!

Edit: Typo

ifrit
Feb 23rd, 2006, 12:36 AM
Why the photocromic on Zenni is so expensive, $39, while transitional lenses on Goggle is only $17. Are they different?

Athios
Feb 24th, 2006, 05:16 AM
Why the photocromic on Zenni is so expensive, $39, while transitional lenses on Goggle is only $17. Are they different?

I'm not sure. None of them are actual brand-name Transitions(R).
In general, photochromic tends to be expensive, as you can see for all the other online retailers. The real question is, why is it so cheap at goggles4u?? :rolleyes:

Also note that the $17 photochromic lens at goggles4u are glass only.
I ordered a pair of these ($35 total), which shipped on the 19th. I'll post a picture of them 'in action' when I receive them...
[no, not me wearing them...I mean a picture of them in the sunlight]

marcus
Feb 24th, 2006, 12:00 PM
Well I just received my glasses from goggles4u and they are the wrong frames. The original glasses I ordered were out of stock so I sent them an alternate and I got something completely different. They aren't bad glasses just not what I ordered :(
I sent them an email and we'll see what happens. Worse case I will order the other pair again.

Pr0metheus
Feb 24th, 2006, 04:23 PM
Just ordered from optical4less.com and used the coupon:

Coupon code : http://www.rtgenterprises.com
Discount : 5 % Off All Purchases Which was posted here:
http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/optical4less.htm

Hope this turns out nicely. My total was about $85US for titanium frames and high index 1.67 lenses.

TheHans
Feb 24th, 2006, 04:50 PM
Hi,

I guess this is a little off-topic, but it does involve relatively inexpensive, extremely cool frames. This company:

http://www.allynscura.com/

has some fabulous new, vintage frames and they ship to Canada. The prices in U.S. are *far* below what I've seen in Canadian dollars, presuming you could find some of these designs. There are some very nice frames between $45-$75 U.S. Apparently, you can put prescriptions in the frames and they carry a one-year warranty. Of course, the price is not as cheap overall as purchasing a full RX and frame from some of these online places. But, if you want some extremely interesting frames, it's still a very good deal to buy a pair of these frames and have an optician put in the appropriate lenses. At least where I am in B.C. it's a good deal. :-)

The Hans

Pr0metheus
Feb 24th, 2006, 05:03 PM
Hi,

I guess this is a little off-topic, but it does involve relatively inexpensive, extremely cool frames. This company:

http://www.allynscura.com/

has some fabulous new, vintage frames and they ship to Canada. The prices in U.S. are *far* below what I've seen in Canadian dollars, presuming you could find some of these designs. There are some very nice frames between $45-$75 U.S. Apparently, you can put prescriptions in the frames and they carry a one-year warranty. Of course, the price is not as cheap overall as purchasing a full RX and frame from some of these online places. But, if you want some extremely interesting frames, it's still a very good deal to buy a pair of these frames and have an optician put in the appropriate lenses. At least where I am in B.C. it's a good deal. :-)

The Hans
I felt like I was seeing pics from the 50's:
http://www.allynscura.com/vintage_mens/vintagemens_metals/images/mmt003.jpg

jdi_knght
Feb 24th, 2006, 10:51 PM
I got my glasses from 39dollarglasses.com back yesterday. I originally ordered them in early January, but received them with a hairline scratch in one lens (right lens, vertical scratch near the center). You could only see the scratch when the light hits it from the right angle, but when the light *did* hit it at the right angle, it caused an annoying glare. Anyway, I contacted 39dollarglasses and send back the glasses to get the lens replaced.

Yesterday I got them back, and believe it or not, the new lens has a scratch in it, again a vertical scratch near the center, although this one extends across the entire lens (the other one started about 5mm from the top).

Anyway, aside from the scratch, the glasses are great. It was just very disappointing (and surprising actually) to receive the glasses back with another flaw.

For anyone interested, the review is up at EyeglassRetailerReviews.com/39dollar2.htm (http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/39dollar2.htm)

I also have glasses coming in from yet another retailer, which should arrive within the next week or two, so assuming all goes well, there will be another review up soon.

Pr0metheus
Feb 24th, 2006, 11:04 PM
I got my glasses from 39dollarglasses.com back yesterday. I originally ordered them in early January, but received them with a hairline scratch in one lens (right lens, vertical scratch near the center). You could only see the scratch when the light hits it from the right angle, but when the light *did* hit it at the right angle, it caused an annoying glare. Anyway, I contacted 39dollarglasses and send back the glasses to get the lens replaced.

Yesterday I got them back, and believe it or not, the new lens has a scratch in it, again a vertical scratch near the center, although this one extends across the entire lens (the other one started about 5mm from the top).

Anyway, aside from the scratch, the glasses are great. It was just very disappointing (and surprising actually) to receive the glasses back with another flaw.

For anyone interested, the review is up at EyeglassRetailerReviews.com/39dollar2.htm (http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/39dollar2.htm)

I also have glasses coming in from yet another retailer, which should arrive within the next week or two, so assuming all goes well, there will be another review up soon.

Two questions:
1) Did you pay for return shipping to them?
2) Are they going to take back the glasses again? I should hope so.

jdi_knght
Feb 24th, 2006, 11:52 PM
Two questions:
1) Did you pay for return shipping to them?
2) Are they going to take back the glasses again? I should hope so.

1) Yes, I had to pay to ship them back to 39dollarglasses. I used Xpresspost (the cheapest method that offered a tracking number). I don't remember the exact cost off hand, but I believe it was in the neighborhood of $10-15. I didn't have to pay for them to re-ship them to me though.

2) I haven't contacted them again about taking them back. Before I start getting a lot of questions as to why, I'll answer them now.

First of all, contacting them again would've put off the review until late March or early April, since I can't put up half a review and just continue it later with updates without the chance of a retailer finding out about the review. It doesn't take much for a retailer to match an order with the dates I place on my website (a few retailers have already figured out who I am, and further orders will have to be placed from other addresses to ensure my glasses aren't treated specially).

Since I can't put up any of the info prematurely, in the event that my issues are not isolated incidents, and there are real quality control issues resulting in others encountering the same issues I had, it's better to put up the review sooner rather than later.

Also, if I were to contact them again, what would happen if there were another problem the 3rd time. And then it becomes a question of where do I draw the line and finally give up? I believe that when you have a problem, the retailer should address it and make sure they deal with it well. Having to send glasses back more than once is something I don't believe the average buyer should be forced to do. Once is enough, some might say it's too much already, but I did give 39dollarglasses the benefit of the doubt, and an opportunity to make things right. Had the glasses come back fine, the review would have obviously been more positive than it was. In fact, I was actually expecting that the glasses would come back fine and had begun writing parts of the review with the assumption that the lens would come back in the same condition as the other. Obviously, I ended up having to rewrite those parts of the review.

The final reason for not sending them back is simply the cost. Sending them back yet again would mean having spent a total of $20-30 in shipping. While not really a *lot* of money, at this point I'm pretty much buying glasses for the sake of reviewing them, and that will easily buy a pair of glasses from another retailer, and I'd rather do that and maybe revisit 39dollarglasses with another purchase at a later date, once I've had a chance to purchase from all the other retailers.

Anyway, thanks for the comments. I hope the websites been helpful to some of you. Also to the person who mentioned they would like to see more detail about the glasses themselves (close up pictures, info about the frames ordered, etc), I'll definitely look into expanding on the details for future reviews, and hopefully updating the current ones eventually.

Thanks again for the input everyone.

Pr0metheus
Feb 24th, 2006, 11:59 PM
I hope the websites been helpful to some of you.

Thanks for the sites and the coupon I used on your site :-) All was VERY helpful and saved me a bundle. :)

ifrit
Feb 25th, 2006, 05:25 AM
I'm not sure. None of them are actual brand-name Transitions(R).
In general, photochromic tends to be expensive, as you can see for all the other online retailers. The real question is, why is it so cheap at goggles4u?? :rolleyes:

Also note that the $17 photochromic lens at goggles4u are glass only.
I ordered a pair of these ($35 total), which shipped on the 19th. I'll post a picture of them 'in action' when I receive them...
[no, not me wearing them...I mean a picture of them in the sunlight]

Hi, Athios. Did you get the glasses yet? How is the transitional leses? I'm thinking about ordering one. Should I?

Dark
Feb 25th, 2006, 10:42 AM
1) I was considering buying from eyeglassworld.com and one feature caught my attention. What about that photochromic yellow tint? It would help me for night driving but if it's UV activated, there is no sun at night duh :D comments?
2) Is it worth it to buy high index japan vs france? There is a 10 bucks diff but is it just a gimmick?
3) My prescription is not high but with rimless it's kind of look thick, would a 1.5 index be fine?

Dark
Feb 25th, 2006, 10:44 AM
One more thing about google4u, they answered my email right away. After two emails and 4 days, eyeglasssworld haven't answered me back yet :(

danomed
Feb 25th, 2006, 11:17 AM
whoa. I thought Pacific Mall in Toronto had great prices but this is pretty sweet. I'm going to see if I can find some of the lenses locally to try on.

jjboy
Feb 25th, 2006, 03:25 PM
My glasses from Zenni have this same problem... there is noticeable optical distortion when not looking directly through the center of the lenses, but it is in both lenses in my case.


Cnn you explain what you mean by optical distortion? I also ordered from zenai and my glasses have not arrived yet. Did you call zenai and tell them about the problem?

setell
Feb 27th, 2006, 01:05 PM
Just got my glasses from goggles4u and I'm extremely pleased with them. It came in a really well packaged cloth box. I ordered on the 9th, was shipped on the 11th and it arrived today. Exactly 10 business days to get the glasses which is EXCELLENT considering I didn't pay any shipping fees. Only negative thing is that the lens were a bit dirty when I opened my pkg. I like how the lens are pretty thin and I would have to say this is a great pair of glasses for $29.92 after using the 5% discount code. I would order from them again as I am one happy camper. Not sure about glasses frame brands but I got a Samsonite brand frame and I'm not sure if it's a medicore brand or decent one. Overall my new pair of rimless frames is just great! I'm going to order another pair from them and this time I'll get transitions. I still can't believe I paid so little for a nice pair of glasses when I used to pay hundreds. I'm going to test out how good the anti-glare on this pair of glasses is tonight.

ah_long
Feb 27th, 2006, 01:12 PM
Cnn you explain what you mean by optical distortion? I also ordered from zenai and my glasses have not arrived yet. Did you call zenai and tell them about the problem?

as for the distortion problem..
care to post how high is ur RX n what type of lenses you have purchased??

for a higher negative RX, you would experience more distortion on the sides of the lenses as you are out of the focal point... thats why you would see 'circles' on some high RX lenses when viewed @ an angle... if you have a high RX... make sure you order aspheric lenses... even @ the same index, they are more thin than regular lenses, in addition, they remove a big chunk of the distortion and the 'circle's..... and a bonus, aspheric lenses won't make ur eyes look as small...

mrken
Feb 27th, 2006, 08:18 PM
as for the distortion problem..
care to post how high is ur RX n what type of lenses you have purchased??

for a higher negative RX, you would experience more distortion on the sides of the lenses as you are out of the focal point... thats why you would see 'circles' on some high RX lenses when viewed @ an angle... if you have a high RX... make sure you order aspheric lenses... even @ the same index, they are more thin than regular lenses, in addition, they remove a big chunk of the distortion and the 'circle's..... and a bonus, aspheric lenses won't make ur eyes look as small...
Interesting! I had always thought that eyeglass lenses are aspheric no matter the prescription. Shouldn't spheric and aspheric lenses cost the same to make?

ah_long
Feb 28th, 2006, 09:42 AM
Interesting! I had always thought that eyeglass lenses are aspheric no matter the prescription. Shouldn't spheric and aspheric lenses cost the same to make?

well, soon they will be as technology advances and aspheric lenses would be a norm...in the store I work @, we don't offer curve lenses anymore... all the lenses are aspheric, it might not be the same for all stores though...

but since the poster with the distortion problem has made his/her purchase earlier, it would be safe to assume he/she doesn't have the aspheric lenses...

as the RX goes higher, it's a lot easier to tell...

mrken
Feb 28th, 2006, 09:07 PM
well, soon they will be as technology advances and aspheric lenses would be a norm...in the store I work @, we don't offer curve lenses anymore... all the lenses are aspheric, it might not be the same for all stores though...

but since the poster with the distortion problem has made his/her purchase earlier, it would be safe to assume he/she doesn't have the aspheric lenses...

as the RX goes higher, it's a lot easier to tell...
Thanks for the information!

MizTEcK
Feb 28th, 2006, 11:27 PM
i justr ordered from optical4less, hope its good =)

Pr0metheus
Feb 28th, 2006, 11:32 PM
i justr ordered from optical4less, hope its good =)
I ordered from them too. Let us know how it goes :)

FaerieLilith
Feb 28th, 2006, 11:46 PM
Do any of these places do contact lenses as well? Or does anyone have suggestions for the same kind of deals on contacts? Thanks :)

advantage21
Mar 2nd, 2006, 12:24 PM
My 2nd order from Goggles4u. The quality is of the frame is consistently as good as my 1st pair. I ordered semi rimless again, and again there were very minor mounting gaps between the frame and the lense. But nothing that affects how it wears or noticable by anyone other than me. The frames themselves are a no name brand but had "made in Italy" printed on the inside of the arms. The cost was just under CAN$27 after applying my 15% repeat order discount and using the 5% off code on the OP's site. The quality for that price is amazing and I intend to order again.

Here's a tip for anyone who want to order online. Go to try out the specs at the sunglasses stand at Zeller's (or something) to see what style fits your face. And measure the width and length of the lense so you can order the right size on the site. The first pair I ordered had lenses that were too small for my face, totally my fault for not realizing the lense measurements.

_pOtEnZa_
Mar 2nd, 2006, 01:03 PM
just ordered my first pair from gogles4u, lets see how this goes, thanks OP for the 5% coupon !

pothia
Mar 2nd, 2006, 06:25 PM
I guess I could find my answers in this thread but I don't feel like going thru 17 pgs to do that.

My questions are:

1. Anyone ever got their glasses from the Vision Centre at Wal-Mart? I just called to get a quote on just lenses (the usual stuff for coating:AR, anti-fog/scratch, UV protection) and it does seem like the cheapest price I could get. ($105). Now the problem is that I forgot to mention I need lenses that are of high-index so that might have affected the price a bit but I still don't think it'll be over $150, which is still way cheaper than other optical places I asked.

2. On average, how much are the brand name frames at P mall?

3. What is the CR39 material on Goggles4u's website? Are they much better than the glass? Also, are transitional lenses worth the money?

Thanks in advance.

pothia
Mar 2nd, 2006, 06:33 PM
My 2nd order from Goggles4u. The quality is of the frame is consistently as good as my 1st pair. I ordered semi rimless again, and again there were very minor mounting gaps between the frame and the lense. But nothing that affects how it wears or noticable by anyone other than me. The frames themselves are a no name brand but had "made in Italy" printed on the inside of the arms. The cost was just under CAN$27 after applying my 15% repeat order discount and using the 5% off code on the OP's site. The quality for that price is amazing and I intend to order again.




Hi, how do you use two discount codes on just ONE purchase? And does the 15% discount ALWAYS come with your first order?

advantage21
Mar 2nd, 2006, 08:58 PM
Hi, how do you use two discount codes on just ONE purchase? And does the 15% discount ALWAYS come with your first order?

Place the order using the 5% code. Then send an email requesting the 15% discount per their FAQ (http://www.goggles4u.com/faq.asp#9):

I am a repeat customer. How can I get my 15% discount?

Place your order and send a request for 15% discount at info@goggles4u.com along with your order number. We would be happy to refund your money. Please note that your card will be charged with the discounted amount if you inform us before shipping your order. If somehow its delayed we can always refund the discount to your account. In any case please feel free to contact us.

pothia
Mar 2nd, 2006, 09:47 PM
can I use that 15% discount on my FIRST order? Would they know?

setell
Mar 2nd, 2006, 09:48 PM
I'm wondering how you can use the 15% off too. My sister wants me to order her a pair of transitions but it's her prescription not mine.

advantage21
Mar 2nd, 2006, 10:02 PM
can I use that 15% discount on my FIRST order? Would they know?

The 15% is manually applied, so I would guess they simply look up your name/address in their database?

--edited to include the additional info--

You have to use the same credit card on the repeat order to get the 15% discount.

advantage21
Mar 2nd, 2006, 10:06 PM
I'm wondering how you can use the 15% off too. My sister wants me to order her a pair of transitions but it's her prescription not mine.

I didn't read any restriction for the 15% discount on a different prescription. I don't think there are any extra cost involved in making them so they don't care. As you long as your name/address and credit card info is the same on both orders, you should get the extra 15% off. Of course, you can email info@goggles4u.com to be certain. I always get a response within 24 hours from them.

pothia
Mar 3rd, 2006, 12:26 AM
Ahhhhhhh..someone please answer post #241. Thanks.

ah_long
Mar 3rd, 2006, 02:29 AM
1. Anyone ever got their glasses from the Vision Centre at Wal-Mart? I just called to get a quote on just lenses (the usual stuff for coating:AR, anti-fog/scratch, UV protection) and it does seem like the cheapest price I could get. ($105). Now the problem is that I forgot to mention I need lenses that are of high-index so that might have affected the price a bit but I still don't think it'll be over $150, which is still way cheaper than other optical places I asked.

that's an expensive price....
if you are talking about just lenses
Plastic 1.56 index, including Anti Reflection, Scratch Resistance and UV resistance would be $50 a pair
1.6 High index with all above coatings would be $80

all comes with one year coating warrantee, you may PM me


2. On average, how much are the brand name frames at P mall?

depending on the brand you want... Burberry ranges from 160 ~ 220, Chanel 250 ~ 350 etc etc..


3. What is the CR39 material on Goggles4u's website? Are they much better than the glass? Also, are transitional lenses worth the money?

~Just high density plastic, it's the material of which every normal pair of lenses would use
~transition lenses are worth it if you engage in a lot of outdoor activites, but if you want to use them for driving, forget it...the windshield/window blocks out about 80% of UV which is the rays that stimulate the transition effect on transition lenses

Steeve Urkel
Mar 3rd, 2006, 02:47 AM
Can you buy your own frames and bring them to another store to have the lenses made??

I know of a local shop (mainly high end) that clears out all their old stock frames on a "sidewalk sale" a few times a year.

but you can just buy the frames there, and was told to come back for the lenses when I wanted later on... (lenses are not super cheap at this store- usually $180+)

but i have seen Gucci, chanel and other high end older season model frames...

ah_long
Mar 3rd, 2006, 02:54 AM
Can you buy your own frames and bring them to another store to have the lenses made??

I know of a local shop (mainly high end) that clears out all their old stock frames on a "sidewalk sale" a few times a year.

but you can just buy the frames there, and was told to come back for the lenses when I wanted later on... (lenses are not super cheap at this store- usually $180+)

but i have seen Gucci, chanel and other high end older season model frames...

yes you can

Athios
Mar 3rd, 2006, 05:10 PM
~transition lenses are worth it if you engage in a lot of outdoor activites, but if you want to use them for driving, forget it...the windshield/window blocks out about 80% of UV which is the rays that stimulate the transition effect on transition lenses
Oooh, I didn't know that..... thanks for the head's up, ah_long! :cheesygri

(nope, still haven't received mine. maybe monday...)

seangoesbonk
Mar 3rd, 2006, 05:32 PM
Can you buy your own frames and bring them to another store to have the lenses made??
You can, but you will have to pay taxes. If you buy a complete pair of Rx glasses, you don't pay tax, but if you buy the frames seperately, you do have to pay tax.

ThirteenInchMags
Mar 4th, 2006, 10:11 PM
Some models on Goggles4U do not show up when viewed at a later time. Is it possible that they have a live stock update system? Has anyone else noticed this as well?

bubble.tea
Mar 4th, 2006, 10:23 PM
I've been following this since the early posts..and am a littlekeen to get a HINGELESS RIMLESS frame for rock bottom. The cheapest I've found is 50 US I think...or maybe 50 CAD., and even those frames aren't all that fancy.

any ideas? I prefer rounded edge rectangular frames and either gold or gun metal/rich brown colour. oh and I'd like fries with that please :D

jdi_knght
Mar 5th, 2006, 04:19 AM
Some models on Goggles4U do not show up when viewed at a later time. Is it possible that they have a live stock update system? Has anyone else noticed this as well?

I experienced this as well after ordering my glasses. I had bookmarked the pages of glasses I was considering, and the page for the frames I ordered were immediately removed from the site after ordering. I would guess I got the last ones.

ThirteenInchMags
Mar 5th, 2006, 11:09 AM
Do they usually restock on those models?

sqhv01
Mar 5th, 2006, 01:38 PM
Perhaps one of the experts can answer this question: If I buy a pair of glasses from one of these online stores, can I take out the lenses and have them re-cut to fit another frame?

Pr0metheus
Mar 5th, 2006, 03:02 PM
I experienced this as well after ordering my glasses. I had bookmarked the pages of glasses I was considering, and the page for the frames I ordered were immediately removed from the site after ordering. I would guess I got the last ones.
Same thing happened to me with optical4less. It seems they have only one pair of frames for some models or very few of them.

Athios
Mar 5th, 2006, 04:06 PM
I've been following this since the early posts..and am a littlekeen to get a HINGELESS RIMLESS frame for rock bottom.
I really wouldn't recommend getting 'cheap' rimlesses, cos of light getting in through the edges of thick lens.
Although.....perhaps the coloured rim lenses at one of the retailers (the HK one I think) might prevent this problem. And they look really nice too!

Btw, I have a package at the post office. Might be my glasses. Unless it's the toaster I won, although probably not, since it's too soon and that should be coming by a parcel service anyway...

bubble.tea
Mar 5th, 2006, 07:52 PM
Perhaps one of the experts can answer this question: If I buy a pair of glasses from one of these online stores, can I take out the lenses and have them re-cut to fit another frame?

from my experience, an original square or uncut piece of glass is required to begin the cutting. Apart from charges for workmanship, a lense crafter won't recut someone elses work...Like taking a monet, to Picasso and saying, could you touch it up please hehe.

Where it's more of a physical limitation thing is with rimless frames. They can't take your framed lenses, once cut, and have them drilled to mount rimless frames, because the original square or larger circular lense is required to withhold the pressures of drilling which aren't there anymore when the lense has been cut ;)

brunes
Mar 6th, 2006, 01:52 PM
Has anyone ever hard trouble getting their insurance to honour any of these places?

I have 90% coverage, so saving some money online is not a huge issue, but hey - money is money, and 10% of 40 is much less than 10% of 120 :P

jdi_knght
Mar 6th, 2006, 05:04 PM
Has anyone ever hard trouble getting their insurance to honour any of these places?

I have 90% coverage, so saving some money online is not a huge issue, but hey - money is money, and 10% of 40 is much less than 10% of 120 :P

You would probably have to contact your particular insurance company to see what their policy is on out-of-country purchases. Also keep in mind that some places do not send an invoice/receipt along with the glasses, in which case your only receipt will be one printed off the internet.

Although I'm all for buying online, with 90% coverage (in the above example, paying $12 instead of $4), I would probably suggest going with a local place instead. First, you don't have to worry about the possibility of your purchase not being covered by the insurance company, and second, you can inspect the glasses, try them on, and get them fitted before you take them home.

Buying glasses online is a great way to save you possibly hundreds of dollars, but not really such a great way to save $8.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

GaryReno
Mar 6th, 2006, 05:24 PM
For contacts
visiondirect.com 10% off saveten1

For glasses
goggles4u.com 5% off BXS4G4

jdi_knght
Mar 7th, 2006, 06:59 PM
Just received my glasses from SelectSpecs (online retailer in the UK). Bought a fairly basic pair, they offer both standard (1.49) and thin/light lenses (1.56), I went with the latter. They came with free AR, scratch resistant coating, and UV protection. The packaging was excellent, the frames were ok (needed adjustment though, they looked crooked as soon as they were put on), and the lenses were really good.

This was the first pair where I had to sign for them, but there was no duty or anything. All in all I'm quite happy with them. Complete review with pics is available at:

EyeglassRetailerReviews.com/selectspecs2.htm (http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/selectspecs2.htm)

Enjoy!

Pr0metheus
Mar 7th, 2006, 07:11 PM
Just got my glasses from optical4less.com. The lenses quality looks amazing. The frames are OK (I ordered titanium frames). The frames need adjustment, and I'm not very good at it. Right now I got a headache trying to get used to these glasses, and they're a bit crooked.

I was charged no duties and taxes, and the value was declared as $5 lol. The packaging was a hard cardboard box no bigger than the actual size of the box the glasses came in--good protection.

SomeGuyyyyyy
Mar 7th, 2006, 07:57 PM
Just got my glasses in and first impressions are really good! I posted some pictures on my blog (http://someguysomespace.blogspot.com/2006/03/eyeglasses-are-in.html)
I am pretty impressed for the $44.00 CDN I paid for these. Going to hang onto these for a month or so to make sure I like them and then I think I will order some more for sure! :D BTW, I ordered from www.optical4less.com. (http://www.optical4less.com)

Kosh
Mar 7th, 2006, 08:33 PM
rimless and transistional lens on a site? they cost a lot :(

vonteego
Mar 7th, 2006, 09:05 PM
Another satisfied optical4less customer here!

Got my glasses, $70 USD shipped (I have a really high prescription so I got the thinner lenses) and they are pretty much perfect...small scratch on one of the lenses off to the side but not noticeable when I have my glasses on. Appears to be VERY high quality!

Would order again! :)

cko64
Mar 7th, 2006, 10:23 PM
I ordered from Zenni on Jan. 17, and as of today I still haven't received my glasses yet. I email them more than three occasions. They are always slow in relying my emails. Anyway, I finally found out that they sent my glasses to the wrong address and it was return to them.

I won't be getting my glasses until maybe end of the March or after more than two an a half months. I don't think that's acceptable. I wrote them a nasty letter and of course they didn't response.

Zenni Sucks!

Pr0metheus
Mar 7th, 2006, 11:17 PM
I ordered from Zenni on Jan. 17, and as of today I still haven't received my glasses yet. I email them more than three occasions. They are always slow in relying my emails. Anyway, I finally found out that they sent my glasses to the wrong address and it was return to them.

I won't be getting my glasses until maybe end of the March or after more than two an a half months. I don't think that's acceptable. I wrote them a nasty letter and of course they didn't response.

Zenni Sucks!
Was the wrong address put in by you for your shipping details, or did they just screw it up somehow?

nacho113
Mar 7th, 2006, 11:24 PM
Has anyone had any luck contacting EyeGlassesWorld.com, I placed an order Jan 31 and have not recieved my glasses yet nor have they responded to numberous emails. I checked my Mastercard statement and it doesn't appear they have billed my account for these either. Judging by the poorly kept website and there lack of response, I'm beginning to wonder if this company is actually still in business.


EDIT: may have answered my own question, found this on FatWallet after a a little digging. http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?start=480&catid=18&threadid=231255

"My thoughts are these people run/ran www.eyeglassesworld.com as well. The mailing materials are the same. The post office they use are the same. "Peter" was the name of the guy who mailed out the eyeglassesworld glasses as well. Eyeglassesworld still owes me a pair of glasses. According to BBB, they are out of business but their website is still running. It hasn't been updated since 2004 though."

OP might want to check into this and remove them from your review site if this is true.

cko64
Mar 7th, 2006, 11:49 PM
Was the wrong address put in by you for your shipping details, or did they just screw it up somehow?
Of course they screwed up. I wouldn't complain if I inputted the wrong address, that would make it my fault.

After they got the returned package after more than a month, Feb. 23. It took them another week (March 2) to mail it out again. They just don't care - low margin, man.

nbmz
Mar 8th, 2006, 07:23 PM
I placed my order on 2/23 and have received them today!

I'm very happy with the order, it came well secured, and in a hard case. For the price (~$31CDN), it was well worth the cost, and it's a steal of a deal for rimless glasses!

Athios
Mar 9th, 2006, 02:29 AM
Goggle4u Review

Feb 15 - Ordered a pair of semi-rimless with the grey transitional glass lens. $35 CDN total after 5% off.
Feb 19 - Received email that they have been shipped.
Mar 3 - Received a note that the package is at my local post office.

Arrived in a cloth bag sewn shut with thread. Says "Pakistan Post", with mail chops on a piece of tape. Post office lady looked a little confused as to whether or not she should be afraid of what's inside, hahaha.... :cheesygri

Here's a breakdown of all the layers of packaging/protection:
Cloth bag --> Fitted styrofoam box --> Cardboard sleeve --> A very sturdy "Sarasa Eyewear" vinyl/felt case --> Microfiber "Sarasa Eyewear" drawstring bag --> Plastic bag --> A layer of cotton --> Square microfiber cloth --> Glasses (finally!)

First Impressions
Packaging: Mmm....I could've thrown the package out of a second story window onto concrete without worrying about breaking anything. So a 'normal' delivery trip from Pakistan isn't something that people should be concerned with (assuming that this is now their standard packaging, since it's different from other reviewers)
Box: Very nice one. Line-textured surface with imprinted logo. I love it. Very solid and sturdy.
Glasses: I didn't find any dust/dirt that some other reviewers have noted. Since it's glass, it's slightly heavier than my regular pair. Arms were misaligned, but a light twist fixed that. Frame itself feels very sturdy, but the arms/hinge feels a bit wonky. The nosepad positions need adjusting. Dimensions were exactly as noted on their webpage.

Lens: The groove was well cut, and the wire fits nicely, but the edge is not as polished as my other pair. As you can see in the photo, there's also a small gap between the top of the left lens and the frame, which seems to have been filled in with a bit of silicon.
Oily smudges, could be removed with the microfiber cloth. For some reason, the AR coating is rosey pink on one lens and orange on the other, hahaha.... :lol: But this is not noticeable when worn. The lenses themselves have a yellowish tinge to them, as you can see when compared to my regular pair. It is noticeable when wearing them indoors, but not so much outdoors. Although if you're the type of person who uses 'warm' lightbulbs indoors, this probably won't affect you.
As for prescription, they are absolutely perfect. No lines, scratches, blurs, visual distortions, nothing. I can switch between my two pairs of glasses without need to 'adjust' to them. The focus at edges is just as good as in the center. And I can stare at a spot while swivelling my head around without losing focus.

Transitions effect: Ah, here's the bad news. It's been raining (and snowing) in Vancouver every since I got the glasses, so can't really test them out, and I don't have a black light or UV pen light either.
I did try two days ago by putting them in the 4:30pm evening sunlight, but nothing happened. So I brought them indoors and left them hanging on a houseplant in the sun. A few minutes later, I went back and they were very slightly darker, and I could see the 'shadow' shape of a leaf on the lens.
So they do work, but very slowly, and weakly. But this is perhaps because the sunlight was weak as well. I'll post an update later if it ever gets sunny... :razz:

NOTE: I've removed the images from here cos I lost the files. You can see pictures of them here...
http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/userreview03.htm

Athios
Mar 9th, 2006, 02:35 AM
Oh, and just for comparison, my regular pair is Ralph Lauren, Made in Italy,
"135 RL 1436 0ZV6", whatever that means. And they came in a freakin' leather case, crazy pretentious *******. And an RL microfiber cloth. They're sitting in my drawer cos I don't want to use them. Maybe I can sell them on eBay, hahaha.....

Bought them from World Optical in Lansdowne Richmond. After a my-dad-is-the-owner's-high-school-buddy-discount, $180 for frames, $80 for lens.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention, the lens on this pairs is 1.5-2.5mm thick, the lens on the goggles4u was 2-2.5mm thick. I only have -1.0 in each eye though.

predator
Mar 9th, 2006, 03:44 AM
Good Review Athios , and thanks to jdi_knght for bringing up these websites and deals . I have been following this thread for the last week , going to both goggles 4 U and Optical4less websites to try to understand all these lens options and I did learn a lot.

Now a couple of questions , athios , did your glasses come with the “ hydrophobic” coating? I noticed that option on optical4less website , but not on google4u. I personally think its neat , as I can just wash my glasses with water , let it drip off without trying to dry it off and scratching it by mistake. I also just learned about the existence of multifocal lenses , I always thought that the eye changes the focus and the lenses don’t do that , but apparently I am mistaken as they do exist , can anyone explain if they are really necessary? I have had cheap eyeglasses for all my life , never was really comfortable with reading on looking at lecture slides from a distance, so this might be something to look into( guess they were single vision). I noticed 2 types though , ones that are progressive and Lined Simple Bifocal/Varifocal. I also noticed a pretty big difference in price between goggles4U and optical4less for these two, is there any real difference? Or is it just all the extra marketing that optical4less has? I guess that’s it for now , I was considering getting clip on frames due to me biking a lot , and didn’t feel like spending the extra money on transition lenses . I would like to try out the titanium frames , but appears they are only available at optical4less and no clip on option. Anyways , enough questions and more researching.
Keep this thread up and kicking guys.

Galad
Mar 9th, 2006, 03:58 AM
I ordered from zenni 5 weeks ago, and still haven't received mine yet. I finally got in touch with them today and found out they haven't even shipped them yet :mad:

neo1973
Mar 9th, 2006, 10:17 AM
Goggle4u Review
Arrived in a cloth bag sewn shut with thread. Says "Pakistan Post", with mail chops on a piece of tape. Post office lady looked a little confused as to whether or not she should be afraid of what's inside, hahaha...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

That's a good one.

duster
Mar 9th, 2006, 10:24 AM
I also just learned about the existence of multifocal lenses , I always thought that the eye changes the focus and the lenses don’t do that , but apparently I am mistaken as they do exist , can anyone explain if they are really necessary?.

It's not your choice...it depends of your prescription. Do you remember your grandmother's glasses in old days? These glasses with a square engraved on the bottom to help her reading her Holy Bible?

It was "bifocal"! Ok, today these glass are well made with no visible "area" due to the progressive processing but it's same thing.

So, bifocal lense are lense to see well further (myope) AND for some people over 40 (usually) with degenerative "closer view" issue, for mid-age people experience blurred vision at near points (presbyopia). So, there're 2 differents focal area on the glasses.

Voilà!

predator
Mar 9th, 2006, 12:16 PM
Thanks duster,

This makes more sense now , I am getting my eyesight checked this weekend hopefully , and will know what lenses I need.

Cisco KId
Mar 9th, 2006, 12:34 PM
I can not see how at that price you will get frames that a reasonably stylish or will last any length of time.

I figure quality stylish frames are worth it. I change my frames at least 1 a year for the look if at all possible, glasses become dates and make you look dated imho. Stay with the times , great price though if you need some basic specs

Athios
Mar 9th, 2006, 03:23 PM
Now a couple of questions , athios , did your glasses come with the “ hydrophobic” coating? I noticed that option on optical4less website , but not on google4u.
Nope, goggle4u doesn't have that. Just UV, AR, and scratch resistance.

When you get your eyes checked, make sure you tell your optometrist when you need to use your glasses (i.e. under what circumstance is it difficult for you now). Depending on your condition, he might recommend bifocals or 'office' type lens, or separate pairs for reading and general use....so make sure to discuss...

joeb
Mar 11th, 2006, 01:45 PM
I ordered from zenni on feb 10 and have finallyed received my glasses. It is ok quality except that it doesn't seem to have the ar coating that I paid extra for. :mad:

Is there anyway to check for sure whether an ar coating has been applied?
thanks

_pOtEnZa_
Mar 11th, 2006, 01:53 PM
Goggle4u Review
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9831/goggle4u086ym.th.jpg (http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=goggle4u086ym.jpg)
Arrived in a cloth bag sewn shut with thread. Says "Pakistan Post", with mail chops on a piece of tape. Post office lady looked a little confused as to whether or not she should be afraid of what's inside, hahaha.... :cheesygri


thats is one hell of a suspicious package lol

cko64
Mar 11th, 2006, 02:05 PM
I ordered from zenni on feb 10 and have finallyed received my glasses. It is ok quality except that it doesn't seem to have the ar coating that I paid extra for. :mad:

Is there anyway to check for sure whether an ar coating has been applied?
thanks
You are lucky. I ordered about a month before you and I still have not receive my glasses yet. They don' even response to my emails.

Next Friday would be two months and if I still not receiving my glasses by then, I will initiate a charge back with my credit card company.

There are so many good internet glasses companies, don't bother to order from Zenni.

Athios
Mar 11th, 2006, 02:14 PM
Is there anyway to check for sure whether an ar coating has been applied? thanks
Yup. Just look at a reflection of a light source, like a lightbulb or window.
If the reflection is dimmer (and usually a different colour), then you got the coating.
If it's white and bright, then you got screwed....

So.....what do you see?

fakishan
Mar 11th, 2006, 07:18 PM
forgive me if I'v missed it, but can you have your medical insurance pay for these?

joeb
Mar 12th, 2006, 07:02 PM
Yup. Just look at a reflection of a light source, like a lightbulb or window.
If the reflection is dimmer (and usually a different colour), then you got the coating.
If it's white and bright, then you got screwed....

So.....what do you see?

There's a greenish tint in the reflection, so I guess there's a coating.

Pr0metheus
Mar 12th, 2006, 07:10 PM
There's a greenish tint in the reflection, so I guess there's a coating.
I have a greenish tint in my reflection too for the glasses I got from optical4less.

jdi_knght
Mar 13th, 2006, 02:19 AM
forgive me if I'v missed it, but can you have your medical insurance pay for these?

If you have a coverage plan (through your employer, etc), you will probably have to check with the company providing the coverage, as the policies may vary. Also keep in mind that some of the online retailers don't include an invoice when they ship your package (the only invoice you receive is emailed to you), and your provider might not be thrilled when the receipt you send in for reimbursement is an invoice printed off the web or through your email.

spwk
Mar 13th, 2006, 08:30 AM
Anyone have any experience with specscity.com (http://www.specscity.com)? I've had my sight on a couple pair of their frames there for quite some time but didn't order cos I couldn't find any review on them. Looks like many frames there are mij too.

Al Kaseltzer
Mar 13th, 2006, 08:48 AM
Goggle4u Review

Feb 15 - Ordered a pair of these (http://www.goggles4u.com/detail.asp?pid=4780), semi-rimless with the grey transitional glass lens. $35 CDN total after 5% off.

Transitions effect: I'll post an update later if it ever gets sunny... :razz:

I know you're in BC, but have you had a chance to go out in the sun yet ?

corpsekiller
Mar 13th, 2006, 03:02 PM
Shipped Feb 22 from goggles4u
Canada customs got there greedy little hands on them and opened everything, did not put anything back correctly and assesed the value at $200. I got a bill for 45 CAD which I had to pay at the door. Now I have to appeal there decision on the amount to charge..... I am mailing today, wish me luck.

Corpse

Dark
Mar 13th, 2006, 03:17 PM
I received mine today :)
Order History
25 Feb 2006 - Ordered
28 Feb 2006 - Order Shipped
13 March 2005 - Order Received
A turn around of less than 3 weeks. Not bad. A picture is worth a thousand words so here you go.
http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/2923/dsc000276cs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Packaging was nice. As far sa I can tell there is no significant difference between those and the one that I bought from the store. I am planning to leave those in the car for night driving (thus the yellow tint). I am planning to order another pair. Too bad eyeglassworld has bad communication skills, their frames are way better than google4u's.

Dark
Mar 13th, 2006, 03:19 PM
Shipped Feb 22 from goggles4u
Canada customs got there greedy little hands on them and opened everything, did not put anything back correctly and assesed the value at $200. I got a bill for 45 CAD which I had to pay at the door. Now I have to appeal there decision on the amount to charge..... I am mailing today, wish me luck.

Corpse
My package was opened too by the customs. I guess they're suspicious of any package that comes from pakistan :confused: since they usually do not open package as light as tis one. Anyway, I didn't get charged anything.

Aske001
Mar 13th, 2006, 03:20 PM
Shipped Feb 22 from goggles4u
Canada customs got there greedy little hands on them and opened everything, did not put anything back correctly and assesed the value at $200. I got a bill for 45 CAD which I had to pay at the door. Now I have to appeal there decision on the amount to charge..... I am mailing today, wish me luck.
Corpse

>:(
Looks like you lost the lottery. Good luck getting back the refund you're owed!

I'm still waiting for mine, shipped Feb. 27.

Where do you live?

Was there a value declaration or description of contents anywhere on or in the package?

Did they break down the $45 between GST, PST, duty etc? If there was duty, what category did they put it in?

Don't forget to deduct a reasonable cost allowance for the included shipping.

Deal_Princess
Mar 13th, 2006, 03:57 PM
I thought there is no Duty on eyeglasses or Contact lenses. Why did that guy get charged Duty.

jdi_knght
Mar 13th, 2006, 04:51 PM
I thought there is no Duty on eyeglasses or Contact lenses. Why did that guy get charged Duty.

I'm not sure what all is and isn't exempt, but regardless, in the event that the same thing happens to you, I pulled this off of the Canada Border Services Agency website:

What if you question the amount you owe?

If you do not agree with the amount of duties and taxes shown on Form E14, you can ask for either a reassessment, which is a review of the amount charged before you pay it, or an adjustment, which is a review conducted after you pay.

Asking for a reassessment before you pay

If you want us to review the amount of duties and taxes charged, ask Canada Post to return the item to us. The Canada Post representative will ask you for your telephone number so that we can reach you. Canada Post will return your mail item to us and give you a copy of Form E14.

Once we receive the item, we will contact you to discuss your request. If we find that duties and taxes still apply, we will fill in a replacement Form E14 and attach it to the mail item. Canada Post will then redeliver the mail item to you and collect the amount you owe.

If we find that no duties and taxes apply, Canada Post will return the mail item to you, and you will not have to pay any duties, taxes, or handling fee.

Asking for an adjustment after you pay

If you want us to review the amount of duties and taxes assessed, after you have paid them, complete Form B2G, Customs Informal Adjustment Request. This form is also printed as part of Form E14 on the back of the top copy. Send the completed form and supporting documents to the nearest customs refund centre listed on the form. Supporting documents include invoices that show the correct value, or other material that describes the product. This information will help us determine the actual value of the goods or the duty rate that applies. We will review your request and issue a refund, if appropriate, usually within 10 days.

How do you return goods to the sender?

If you want to return goods to the sender before you pay the duties and taxes, check the "Return to Sender" box on Form E14 and sign the "Customer's Signature" box. Canada Post will then return the mail item to the sender.

If you want to return goods to the sender after you have paid the duties and taxes, you can ask us for a refund by completing Form B2G which is printed on the back of the top copy of Form E14. You will need to attach proof, such as a credit note from the sender, or a bill of lading, to show that you exported the goods from Canada. Send the completed form to the nearest customs refund centre listed on the form. We will process your claim and refund any duties and taxes you paid.

We cannot refund the $5 handling fee if you return the goods. We can only refund the $5 fee if we find you paid duties and taxes in error when you imported the goods.

Anyway, looks like if this happens to you, the options are:

send the package back to customs for reassessment
keep it (pay the fees) and send in a form asking for an adjustment/refund

Athios
Mar 13th, 2006, 04:57 PM
I know you're in BC, but have you had a chance to go out in the sun yet ?
Yup, have tried them out. Under bright sunlight, can get them to ~20% opaque in about 50 seconds. Then up to 30% opaqueness after about 3 minutes. Ah_long was right, they do not work as well when inside a car.

Mmm....my pair actually looks kinda brown, even though I ordered transition grey.

Given this, my suggestion would be (unless you plan on using the Transitions as your main pair of glasses) just to get regular tinted plastic lenses, cos:
1. it's lighter
2. it's cheaper
2. tinting is free at goggles4u
3. you can pick a darker shade (40-50% seem good) and more colour options

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For the dudes who got charged tax... Ouch. Sorry man. But seriously, for $45 tax, I would've just bloody refused the package and not paid it. But anyway, given that they are prescription eyeglasses, you shouldn't have to pay GST/PST. I'm not sure about any 'import taxes' though. Good luck with your appeal!! :-0

fasteddie41
Mar 13th, 2006, 07:54 PM
Shipped Feb 22 from goggles4u
Canada customs got there greedy little hands on them and opened everything, did not put anything back correctly and assesed the value at $200. I got a bill for 45 CAD which I had to pay at the door. Now I have to appeal there decision on the amount to charge..... I am mailing today, wish me luck.

Corpse
There is no Tariff imposed on the importation of perscription eyeglasses.
The exclusion is found under Canada Tariff Items number 90.03, 90.04.
9001.30.00* (contact lenses) , 9001.40*
(spectacle lenses of glass) , 9001.50* (spectacle lenses of other materials) , 90.03* (spectacle or goggle frames) , 90.04* (spectacles, goggles and the like, corrective, protective or other) and 90.21 (orthopaedic appliances) *when sold on prescription only

There is NO PST (Ontario) collected:
To wit:
Canada Customs - CUSTOMS NOTICE CN-266
The federal government and the province of Ontario have reached a tentative agreement to collect the Ontario provincial sales tax (PST) on importations of non-commercial goods. This function will be undertaken by Revenue Canada on behalf of the province of Ontario, and collection on all non-commercial importations entering through the travellers stream will begin on April 16, 1999, and on June 1, 1999, for all non-commercial importations entering through the postal and courier streams. **CN-266 goes on to specificaly lists Canada Tarif items 90.03, 90.04, 90.21 etc, as EXEMPT from PST.**

corpsekiller - go get your money back!

fasteddie

nacho113
Mar 13th, 2006, 09:39 PM
I received mine today :)
Order History
25 Feb 2006 - Ordered
28 Feb 2006 - Order Shipped
13 March 2005 - Order Received
A turn around of less than 3 weeks. Not bad. A picture is worth a thousand words so here you go.
http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/2923/dsc000276cs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Packaging was nice. As far sa I can tell there is no significant difference between those and the one that I bought from the store. I am planning to leave those in the car for night driving (thus the yellow tint). I am planning to order another pair. Too bad eyeglassworld has bad communication skills, their frames are way better than google4u's.

From what I have researched, Eyeglassesworld.com has been out of business since November 2004, although there website is still up and it allows orders to be placed. No one is answering because no one's there.

Sewert
Mar 14th, 2006, 10:20 AM
I ordered from Zenni in early Feb took about 4-5 weeks to arrive. I am very impressed with them. Nice set of extra glasses. For around $50, hey what do you expect.

Don't bother with the clip on shades though, they definatley suck... Thay don't fit on my set. Not sure if they send a new one or replace or...?

Anyway, I am happy so there's my 2c.
;)

Dark
Mar 15th, 2006, 12:04 AM
Hmmm I noticed something with my glasses from googles4u :(
I used them at night for the first time. It's kind of hard to explain but when I look at a light, it's like it has a faint double right next to it :( I can clearly see it and it's annoying :( Am i just unlucky or this is what to expect from such cheap glasses???

jdi_knght
Mar 15th, 2006, 05:48 PM
Hmmm I noticed something with my glasses from googles4u :(
I used them at night for the first time. It's kind of hard to explain but when I look at a light, it's like it has a faint double right next to it :( I can clearly see it and it's annoying :( Am i just unlucky or this is what to expect from such cheap glasses???

If you close one eye at a time, can you narrow it down to being from a specific lens? Or does it happen only when both eyes are open?

corpsekiller
Mar 15th, 2006, 07:10 PM
There is no Tariff imposed on the importation of perscription eyeglasses.
The exclusion is found under Canada Tariff Items number 90.03, 90.04.
9001.30.00* (contact lenses) , 9001.40*
(spectacle lenses of glass) , 9001.50* (spectacle lenses of other materials) , 90.03* (spectacle or goggle frames) , 90.04* (spectacles, goggles and the like, corrective, protective or other) and 90.21 (orthopaedic appliances) *when sold on prescription only

There is NO PST (Ontario) collected:
To wit:
Canada Customs - CUSTOMS NOTICE CN-266
The federal government and the province of Ontario have reached a tentative agreement to collect the Ontario provincial sales tax (PST) on importations of non-commercial goods. This function will be undertaken by Revenue Canada on behalf of the province of Ontario, and collection on all non-commercial importations entering through the travellers stream will begin on April 16, 1999, and on June 1, 1999, for all non-commercial importations entering through the postal and courier streams. **CN-266 goes on to specificaly lists Canada Tarif items 90.03, 90.04, 90.21 etc, as EXEMPT from PST.**

corpsekiller - go get your money back!

fasteddie


I sent the envelope asking for all my money back already and we will see what they say. The worst part was talking to them on the phone they were sooooo rude. I asked why they had opened the package and not put it back the way they found it and they say "Canada post damages packes all the time". I was like ok.... but Canada Post does not open 4 layers of packaging and then not put it back correctly, and she says, get this "your making assumtions" LOL :lol:
So we will just have ot wait and see.

mrken
Mar 15th, 2006, 09:01 PM
I sent the envelope asking for all my money back already and we will see what they say. The worst part was talking to them on the phone they were sooooo rude. I asked why they had opened the package and not put it back the way they found it and they say "Canada post damages packes all the time". I was like ok.... but Canada Post does not open 4 layers of packaging and then not put it back correctly, and she says, get this "your making assumtions" LOL :lol:
So we will just have ot wait and see.
You should have replied: "you are assuming that I am making assumptions." :lol:

You should have no problems getting your money back. They will send you a nice colourful government cheque for the total amount. I may take some time though.

Dark
Mar 17th, 2006, 08:54 PM
If you close one eye at a time, can you narrow it down to being from a specific lens? Or does it happen only when both eyes are open?
I will try it and get back to you on that. Thx for the help.

canwin
Mar 17th, 2006, 09:47 PM
>:(
Looks like you lost the lottery. Good luck getting back the refund you're owed!

I'm still waiting for mine, shipped Feb. 27.

Where do you live?

Was there a value declaration or description of contents anywhere on or in the package?

Did they break down the $45 between GST, PST, duty etc? If there was duty, what category did they put it in?

Don't forget to deduct a reasonable cost allowance for the included shipping.

I am waiting too....

_pOtEnZa_
Mar 18th, 2006, 08:26 AM
You should have replied: "you are assuming that I am making assumptions." :lol:

You should have no problems getting your money back. They will send you a nice colourful government cheque for the total amount. I may take some time though.

I didnt know u where working for the govrnement and making cheques for em ;)
still waititng for mine :(

mahir_mohsin
Mar 18th, 2006, 11:55 AM
I am waiting too....
been over ten days since i ordered from goggles4u :/ ....i hope i dont get charged duty like everyone else..... >:(

Intricated
Mar 18th, 2006, 03:52 PM
been over ten days since i ordered from goggles4u :/ ....i hope i dont get charged duty like everyone else..... >:(1. I believe the average time between ordering and delivery for Goggles4u is 19 days (http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/goggles4u2.htm). I placed my order 7 days ago (ordered on a Saturday), and they shipped it out on Tuesday.

2. I hardly think everyone is being charged duty. In fact, it looks like corpsekiller is the only one to have posted being hit with a duty, and all the other posts about duty are trying to help corpse get the money back.

rchong
Mar 20th, 2006, 03:22 AM
Has anyone requested a light tint from goggles4u? I'm thinking of a light purple but I didn't get a straight answer from them if the tint is visible without light shining off it from an angle.

MizTEcK
Mar 20th, 2006, 09:31 AM
got my glasses from optical 4 less, VERY VERY RECOMMENDED!! hahaha im so impressed with the shipping too!, only took 2 weeks from order to recieve.. =)

ThirteenInchMags
Mar 21st, 2006, 10:29 AM
Just got my glasses. Ordered about two weeks ago. Came in a robust package. The glasses themselves are very good. Only two minor scratches on the frame which are barely noticeable. The prescription lenses are accurate. I wouldn't call it a flawless pair but I would definetly purchase another one from Goggles4u.
Overall 8/10. If it would not have been for the minor scratches, it would have gotten a 9/10.

Oh yeah, the RIMLESS frames are customizeable. If your front length size is not available, they can customize that. This applies only to RIMLESS frames though.

06 Mar 2006 - Received
08 Mar 2006 - Order Shipped
21 Mar 2006 - Package Received in Montreal Qc

Aske001
Mar 21st, 2006, 10:54 AM
You got yours already? Hmmm. I ordered on Feb 26, and according to goggles4u they shipped on Feb. 27 (wow, one day turnaround). But I'm still waiting, more than 3 weeks later. I guess they put mine on a slow boat.

Aske001
Mar 22nd, 2006, 01:55 PM
My glasses from Goggles4u finally arrived, repackaged in a light cardboard envelope and remailed from Florida by U.S. customs on March 7. Apparently the package en-route from Pakistan to Canada by international mail was intercepted and opened for inspection by U.S. Customs, who discarded the original packaging and managed to add two weeks to the transit time. Isn't it illegal to open another country's mail in transit? :mad:

The glasses themselves are ok. More or less as advertised, correct prescription, no scratches. The frame is a bit cheaply made - the bridge is visibly crooked, but I don't want to try bending it because it would probably break the welds. I would order from them again, if not for the customs issue. I think that given the reality of overly suspicious customs organizations in the world today, Goggles4u needs to change their packaging to look a little more professional and to state what's inside.

jdi_knght
Mar 22nd, 2006, 04:16 PM
On March 16th, I got an email from Goggles4u mentioning that they're shipping the orders to Canada from their US Office for better transit time. Not sure exactly how they're doing it, but I would guess they're probably express mailing orders from Pakistan to the US (probably combining all the North American orders in each shipment) and then individually mailing from the US to the customer. Regardless of how they're doing it though, it's possible they're hitting a few hiccups along the way. It would explain why US customs managed to get their hands on it though.

Aske001
Mar 22nd, 2006, 04:39 PM
On March 16th, I got an email from Goggles4u mentioning that they're shipping the orders to Canada from their US Office for better transit time. Not sure exactly how they're doing it, but I would guess they're probably express mailing orders from Pakistan to the US (probably combining all the North American orders in each shipment) and then individually mailing from the US to the customer. Regardless of how they're doing it though, it's possible they're hitting a few hiccups along the way. It would explain why US customs managed to get their hands on it though.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting what happened then - maybe the originating address in Florida is this new remailer being used by Goggles4U, and they did the packaging and added the U.S. customs declaration. There are a couple of stamps on the package which are unreadable except for the word "Customs", so it's difficult to say who inspected what.

If their purpose was to reduce transit times, it's obviously not working - this one took 23 days to arrive, including 15 from Florida to Canada by air mail (obviously using those old hot air balloons :cheesygri ). I don't really see how it could reduce transit time. It normally takes 10 days to 2 weeks to get a package mailed from Florida, which is about the same amount of time that it takes a package from any international destination to reach us here in Canada. How can adding an extra international mailing reduce transit time? Also, since the package has an additional US$2.20 postage on it, I don't think it's saving them much on shipping cost.

jdi_knght
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:49 PM
Yeah, it doesn't seem to have helped transit times in your case, although again they could just be working out some kinks. It's also possible that they're planning on opening a production facility or something in the US, and this is just phase one of the process. Or they could be relying on the Pakistan production facility but are experimenting with different ways to try and reduce shipping times.

If they were to open a production facility in the US also, it would obviously make for much shorter transit times within the states, although possibly not as much of a difference to Canada.

If they're going to continue relying on the Pakistan production facility, I'm not sure how it would affect their shipping costs. Assuming they're making a healthy amount of sales in North America, they could start packaging all the orders together and use some sort of really fast shipping method to get all the glasses to North America. Bundling everything together would of course reduce that shipping charge. The question then becomes is there much of a difference in cost between shipping from Pakistan to Can/US, and shipping from the US to Can/US. I'd suspect that those in the states will benefit more in regards to total transit time than us in Canada.

Only time will tell I suppose, it'll be interesting to see what they come up with in the end though. Has anyone else received glasses from Goggles4u that have been shipped through the states?

_pOtEnZa_
Mar 22nd, 2006, 09:36 PM
Just got my glasses. Ordered about two weeks ago. Came in a robust package.
06 Mar 2006 - Received
08 Mar 2006 - Order Shipped
21 Mar 2006 - Package Received in Montreal Qc

wtf, ordered mine back in feburary and they still not in montreal, got charged on march 7th :(

Mar 07, 2006 DR *CCNOW.COM*GOGGLES4 800-***-74 29.55

bert
Mar 23rd, 2006, 02:15 PM
Has anyone else received glasses from Goggles4u that have been shipped through the states?

My order came from Pakistan in the cloth bag

Ordered on March 8
Shipped on March 10
Received on March 21

Pr0metheus
Mar 23rd, 2006, 02:25 PM
My order came from Pakistan in the cloth bag

Ordered on March 8
Shipped on March 10
Received on March 21
Any customs charges?

madman604
Mar 23rd, 2006, 02:34 PM
My order came from Pakistan in the cloth bag

Ordered on March 8
Shipped on March 10
Received on March 21

same. no customs charges. lovely cloth bag lol.

didnt fit perfect, but good enuf for a $30 spare.

gonna buy again. definately :D

bert
Mar 23rd, 2006, 03:14 PM
Any customs charges?
nope - no customs charges

Advantage22
Mar 23rd, 2006, 06:54 PM
My 2nd order came today, shipped from Pakistan with the cloth bag too. I got one with the clip on, quality again is very good. This time the frames says "made in China" instead of Italy. The only thing is the free anti-glare/refection coating seems to be missing on the lense, which are not tinted.

_pOtEnZa_
Mar 23rd, 2006, 08:11 PM
wtf, ordered mine back in feburary and they still not in montreal, got charged on march 7th :(

Mar 07, 2006 DR *CCNOW.COM*GOGGLES4 800-***-74 29.55


geez, its always when u complain that u get results lol
got mine today, package was beaten up bad but the glasses where A ok
best 30$ ive spent in a longggg time , thx OP again !

ifrit
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:03 AM
Just got my glasses from goggle4u today.
Order on Feb28.
Ship on Feb28. (That's what it said on ccnow)

I sent email to them 3 days ago and asked for the status. They reply back said they were regretting to hear that the order was delay and that due to the security check at the border.

The package is ship from Pakistan. Took me 2 hours to bend and adjust it to fit on me. The flame said "Shelly Italy Design". Looking closely and you can see that it's poorly made. One lens look perfect and well made. Another lens has tiny chips around the edge and it's not perfectly fit the flame (there is a gab between the lens and flame). I order transition lenses but have to wait till tomorrow to see them in action.

I'm not sure if I'm happy with my glasses. I guess I had such a high expectation on it from reading all the good reviews on here. However, it's $34 after all. Will I order it again??? I don't know. Maybe I just had a bad luck this time. Are there anyone got a perfect lenses and flame from them???

hallen
Mar 24th, 2006, 09:49 AM
Just wanted to let everyone know that I ordered a pair of glasses through Zennin in late January, arrived Feb 20th, and that they were completely covered through my Bluecross Medical Plan that I have through my work here in Nova Scotia, no questions asked, they even went back to Jan 20th the day I ordered and calculated the exchange rate on that date!

Very pleased with the glasses and to find it was covered as well!

Aske001
Mar 24th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Another lens has tiny chips around the edge and it's not perfectly fit the frame (there is a gap between the lens and flame)...[snip] Are there anyone got a perfect lenses and frame from them???

If I look very closely, I can see that one of my lenses is not a perfect fit to the frame, but honestly I probably wouldn't even notice if I weren't looking for it. And as I mentioned earlier, the bridge on my frame is welded a bit crooked.

Realistically you have to expect that you aren't going to get the same quality from $30 glasses that you are from $300 glasses. How many of us use $20 disposable sunglasses instead of $200 designer sunglasses because we know we're going to break them or lose them pretty frequently? The point is that the quality is good enough to use, and for $30 a pair you can afford to get spare pairs and experiment with different styles and different prescription options. And not get too fussed if you lose them.

Tig
Mar 24th, 2006, 12:50 PM
I just wanted everyone to know that I ordered 2 pair from googles4u and I got them in under 2 weeks. Both in the lovely cloth bag. One was opened by customs and then taped back up and the other one untouched. No customs charges and no hassles. The glasses met my expectations. One transitional pair and one regular pair. The prescription is perfect (at least it looks that way). What a deal.

Galad
Mar 24th, 2006, 02:52 PM
Mine just came in from Zenni. It took a month to get them shipped, but the quality is great and the price is amazing.

Zero
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:33 PM
Just got my glasses from Goggles4u too.

Ordered on March 12
Shipped on March 13
Received on March 24

mellis102
Mar 28th, 2006, 10:00 PM
I took the plunge and ordered from alldesignerglasses.com.

I went to an optical store in Toronto and picked the frames I liked then priced them at adg (they were about 60% cheaper). The lenses were also much cheaper than I would have paid in T.O.

In all I am paying US$272 for glasses which would have cost CAN$600.

I only hope they work out.

On their site they have a form to fill in your prescription info., and you can also email them your script (as I did).

I'll post feedback when I receive the specs.

Darth E.

sl2004
Mar 29th, 2006, 02:42 AM
Has anyone ordered from valueglasses.com? Comments?
Seems like they have some nice frames, but I'm hesitant.
Thanks

Advantage22
Mar 29th, 2006, 05:01 PM
I took the plunge and ordered from alldesignerglasses.com.

I went to an optical store in Toronto and picked the frames I liked then priced them at adg (they were about 60% cheaper). The lenses were also much cheaper than I would have paid in T.O.

In all I am paying US$272 for glasses which would have cost CAN$600.

I only hope they work out.

On their site they have a form to fill in your prescription info., and you can also email them your script (as I did).

I'll post feedback when I receive the specs.

Darth E.

I personally wouldn't spend ~$300 CAN online for glasses, but that's just me. Keep us posted on how it works out when they arrive.

blizzah
Mar 29th, 2006, 05:08 PM
Just bought a nice pair of Burberry Glasses from this store at Yonge/Steeles, should be good by tomorrow. Also got another pair of no name, lens are normal, the thin type, anti-reflect etc.

$350 All in Cash.

TheHans
Mar 30th, 2006, 05:08 PM
Hi,

Excuse me if this situation (or something similar) has already been discussed here, but I couldn't find anything about it...

I was on a few of these sites (goggles4u, 39dollarglasses) then I went to Zenni. I saw a pair of frames I really liked and pieced together an order to see the cost as I need progressives and they're pricier. When I tried to save the order I wanted, I couldn't. A message came up saying that the height of the frames had to be a minimum of 32mm to accomodate progressives and/or bifocal lenses. The ones in question were 24mm.

Anyway, I was able to piece together orders earlier on both goggles4u and 39dollarglasses, so I went back to those and in both cases the frames were under 32mm, more like 23mm. So I called Zenni. The woman I spoke to said that in their experience, to be effective, the progressive/bifocal lenses required a minimum frame height of 32mm. I thought this was interesting. So, I phoned my optometrist regarding this, and indeed there is a good deal of truth to this. The optician at the office said that they like to have 16mm from your pupil to the bottom of the frame for progressives/bifocals. Depending on where the glasses sit on your nose, a frame of 23-24mm in height *could* allow for this, but it's much less likely than with a frame of over 30mm in height.

So since Zenni doesn't see you when ordering (obviously) they're erring on the side of caution, and in a good way I think. Because what's the point in paying for and having progressives if they don't work properly? This certainly makes me want to order from Zenni, if I can find a larger frame I like, of course.

The Hans

aznfoos
Mar 30th, 2006, 06:08 PM
I was very intrigued when I came across this thread.

I am a resident in Ophthalmology in London, ON. I also know many people who own and dispense eyeglasses.

The highest index glasses you can get are 1.7x and should be chosen in high prescriptions (eg, greater than 5.00). Nikon lenses offer the highest optical quality. You must be sure you get the right refraction and your pupillary distance from an experienced person (eye doctor preferentially, but also opticians who know how to use an autorefractor), otherwise you will experience strain, headaches, and variable blurring of distance and near vision.

The exam for all the parameters will cost Ontarians $50-75 now that eye exams are no longer covered. Add that to the cost of your new glasses.

G

bbhmj
Mar 30th, 2006, 09:31 PM
Bought a pair from Zenni ...
No problems. I had to call them and request an email with shipping and tracking information. Glasses were received just over a week from ordering.

Total bill <$50.00 Cdn

jdi knight: I owe you a beer! Thanks for sending me down the road of saving $300 or more.

NoahVail
Mar 31st, 2006, 12:24 PM
Goggles4U arrived today, packed in a box (presumably the one the hard-case came in), hard clamshell case, cotton batten and plastic sleeve. Shipped from Florida unopened with a USPS customs declaration slip attached.

Looks good.

mahir_mohsin
Mar 31st, 2006, 12:31 PM
got mine from goggles4u too....they were shipped from karachi, PAKISTAN :| ! i could have just gone back home and bought em cheaper :mad: good thing though i din't get charged customs on it like a few unlucky ppl .

Intricated
Mar 31st, 2006, 04:14 PM
Goggles4U arrived today, packed in a box (presumably the one the hard-case came in), hard clamshell case, cotton batten and plastic sleeve. Shipped from Florida unopened with a USPS customs declaration slip attached.

Looks good.Ditto experience for me, 19 days in total to arrive (16 in shipping). The arms look a little different from the picture on the website, and they tend to slip off my face after 20 minutes of wearing them, but probably just have to adjust the nose pads. For $30, I'm not complaining (too loudly)!


got mine from goggles4u too....they were shipped from karachi, PAKISTAN :| ! i could have just gone back home and bought em cheaper :mad: good thing though i din't get charged customs on it like a few unlucky ppl .Er, all goggles4u orders are processed in Pakistan I believe; yours just came directly from there. The OP said recently that goggles4u changed the way they ship products to Canada, and now go through the US.

Also, I believe only 1 person has been hit with any duties/fees so far; all the other posts about it were helping the person get his/her money back.

slippy
Apr 2nd, 2006, 01:42 AM
ordered frameless glasses from optical4less
hope they come through and are ok :)

arabinow
Apr 3rd, 2006, 05:40 PM
Ordered from goggles4u on the 18th of March
arrived today .. April 3rd.

Frames are as expected.. might have ordered a bit smaller. Left eye is ok not the greatest but my prescription is -5.5 in that eye. Overall not bad.. probably need more getting used to the style I chose.

Will definately purchase again.

btw came from US in the hard case and box not opened by customs

Adam

TheHans
Apr 5th, 2006, 09:47 PM
Has anyone actually purchased the glass, as opposed to plastic, lenses from Goggles4u? I prefer glass if possible and, from looking around, Googles4u seems to be the only place that offers glass.

The Hans

hopetindall
Apr 6th, 2006, 01:10 AM
I purchased a set of glass lenses from goggles4u.

Very nice - a little heavier than the plastic.
Had a nice solid feel; like a good pair of raybans.

But also a little thinner and better optics than plastic.

(I have a strong prescription; so it's always a tradeoff between weight, size and optics (I have a lot of problems with chromatic abberation with thin plastic lenses (as the lens material with a high index tends to have a lower abbe number))

TheHans
Apr 6th, 2006, 02:03 PM
I purchased a set of glass lenses from goggles4u.

Very nice - a little heavier than the plastic.
Had a nice solid feel; like a good pair of raybans.

But also a little thinner and better optics than plastic.

(I have a strong prescription; so it's always a tradeoff between weight, size and optics (I have a lot of problems with chromatic abberation with thin plastic lenses (as the lens material with a high index tends to have a lower abbe number))

Hi,

Thanks! I have a strong prescription also, so your reply has been helpful.

The Hans

TheHans
Apr 6th, 2006, 03:10 PM
Hi,

I searched this thread for http://www.eyeglassfactoryoutlet.com/ and Eyeglass Factory and didn't come up with anything. Has anyone purchased from them? I saw one review on the Eyeglass Review site, which was positive for lenses, but not so positive about the frames. But, of course, frames can be of different qualities. The fact that the lenses were good is extremely important. So I wondered if anyone else had any comments regarding the Eyeglass Factory Outlet.

The Hans

muffin
Apr 6th, 2006, 04:19 PM
I was wondering if anyone knew how thick the lens would be if I ordered from goggles4u with plastic or glass lens if i have -7.5 prescription??? I know it will be pretty thick but with plastic frames will it look ok?

slippy
Apr 11th, 2006, 03:11 PM
got my glasses!
ordered on 3/31/06
i got the frameless ones
the fit is really good and it somehow feels lighter than my titanium frames
however not sure about my pupilary distance
or i just have to get used to my new prescription :)

Aske001
Apr 11th, 2006, 04:43 PM
I was wondering if anyone knew how thick the lens would be if I ordered from goggles4u with plastic or glass lens if i have -7.5 prescription??? I know it will be pretty thick but with plastic frames will it look ok?

My glasses from goggles4u have one lens with a -7.5 prescription in their default C39 plastic. It's approx 5mm thick at the outer edge of a 45mm width lens.

_pOtEnZa_
Apr 12th, 2006, 08:22 AM
got my sunglasses ! came with ony the glasses cover, no big ox to protect it, weird, still arrived in good condition !

lilnymphie
Apr 12th, 2006, 11:46 PM
I was hoping to get a pair of prescription sunglasses since Goggles4u offers free tinting. On their site, doesn't it say somewhere that all the lens have UV protection and AR coating etc. etc.?

Well just to be sure, I sent their cust. rep. an email explaining that I wanted to purchases a pair of sunglasses with them, but since their site says they don't offer sunglasses but offer free tinting, I asked if the would offer UV protection.

I got the reply today and they said NO UV protection is offered. ??

advantage21
Apr 13th, 2006, 03:01 AM
I was hoping to get a pair of prescription sunglasses since Goggles4u offers free tinting. On their site, doesn't it say somewhere that all the lens have UV protection and AR coating etc. etc.?

Well just to be sure, I sent their cust. rep. an email explaining that I wanted to purchases a pair of sunglasses with them, but since their site says they don't offer sunglasses but offer free tinting, I asked if the would offer UV protection.

I got the reply today and they said NO UV protection is offered. ??

That's standard. Tinted lenses does get the multi coating even at my local shop. You can order the plain lense with the clip on if you need the UV coating.

Safflon
Apr 13th, 2006, 10:50 AM
That's standard. Tinted lenses does get the multi coating even at my local shop. You can order the plain lense with the clip on if you need the UV coating.

So, there is a difference between the tinted coating and sunglasses? I thought all lenses intrinsically had a UV coating.??? :confused: :confused:

lilnymphie
Apr 13th, 2006, 12:37 PM
Um...so basically those tinted glasses are useless as sunglasses?

advantage21
Apr 13th, 2006, 01:07 PM
I wouldn't call it useless, just that you have no UV protection, just like ppl who doesn't wear any glasses. I use my tinted specs mostly for driving, the windshield already blocks out most of the UV any ways.

gheart008
Apr 13th, 2006, 05:50 PM
$800 on glasses? :|

That's more normal than you'd expect nowadays for designer frames.

spender
Apr 13th, 2006, 08:38 PM
I just got the pair that I ordered a few weeks ago, and I am VERY pleasantly surprised! For $31 CDN total, the new glasses are very nice, and they nailed my prescription dead on. When I got my new frame and prescription about a year ago, it came out to $1,200. Now, to get a pair for $31 is incredible.

If you've been on the fence on this one, don't wait, just buy a pair, you won't regret it!

Oh, since I forgot to mention it, I ordered from goggles4u.com.

manixc
Apr 13th, 2006, 09:24 PM
Awsome review site by the OP. This could work out great for me as I am thinking about contacts and the cheap glasses could be backup



btw, what is bifocal lens? I am very near-sighted (-8) and have little bit of far-sighted (less than 1). Do I need bifocal?

neo1973
Apr 13th, 2006, 10:15 PM
I just got the pair that I ordered a few weeks ago, and I am VERY pleasantly surprised! For $31 CDN total, the new glasses are very nice, and they nailed my prescription dead on. When I got my new frame and prescription about a year ago, it came out to $1,200. Now, to get a pair for $31 is incredible.

If you've been on the fence on this one, don't wait, just buy a pair, you won't regret it!
Do you mind telling us where you ordered from?

Thanks! :)

newt_101
Apr 14th, 2006, 09:20 AM
I ordered a pair from googles4u today.
I requested to have them shipped as a 'Gift' to avoid being charged custom charges at the border.

Let's see what happens then they arrive.

Great thread btw...

Marco

wenat
Apr 24th, 2006, 12:26 PM
I figured I'd get a pair of prescription sunglasses to test out the glasses. (I keep losing my clipons anyways, so I can leave these in the car and not have to look for the clipons.)

Are there any guidelines as to what's the best tint? I was thinking 80% black, but is that too dark? Too light?

muffin
Apr 24th, 2006, 02:14 PM
I received my glasses today from 39dollarglasses! and i am quite impressed :) the glasses were exactly what i wanted and its great that the site allows you to print out the shape of the glasses to make sure they fit. However i was charged taxes when the package arrived at my door :mad: the reason is because the marked it as "glasses" in which customs thought it was sunglasses since they did not open the package to check. I called in to the Canada Border Services Agency and a very nice woman told me just to send it back and it was their mistake. but i've gone through this process before, i did get my money back previously but it does take a while. Anyways I think i may order a pair from goggles4u as well since this is such a great deal. :cheesygri

pgo
Apr 24th, 2006, 02:34 PM
i bought my glasses from zenni a few months ago and recently got them. they were exactly what i expected. they're not the best but affordable and durable for the about $30. i consider them my spare glasses. i bought them using my credit card and the next day, it was reported as fraud use and i had to cancel my credit card and issue a new one. it was such a hassel. not sure if the credit card transaction on the site is secure.

joeb
Apr 24th, 2006, 02:38 PM
I figured I'd get a pair of prescription sunglasses to test out the glasses. (I keep losing my clipons anyways, so I can leave these in the car and not have to look for the clipons.)

Are there any guidelines as to what's the best tint? I was thinking 80% black, but is that too dark? Too light?

I dont think theres a black tint. Do you mean brown? Gray tiny is pretty for everday use, and I suggest something around 70% for driving.

wenat
Apr 24th, 2006, 04:51 PM
I dont think theres a black tint. Do you mean brown? Gray tiny is pretty for everday use, and I suggest something around 70% for driving.

Goggles4u does have a black tint and a grey tint, so that's why I'm confused. (As one of my friends pointed out, 100% black tint would be opaque!)

newbeetle
Apr 25th, 2006, 07:45 PM
I am thinking order a pair of the glasses online. However, the Pupil Distance has been left out in my prescription. On goggles4u.com, it says "If PD "Pupil Distance" is not menionted on your Rx please leave the value as default."
Just wondering how important is that measurement?

spender
Apr 25th, 2006, 09:35 PM
I am thinking order a pair of the glasses online. However, the Pupil Distance has been left out in my prescription. On goggles4u.com, it says "If PD "Pupil Distance" is not menionted on your Rx please leave the value as default."
Just wondering how important is that measurement?

Just drop by any optician and ask them to measure it. I did, and it was no problem.

plausipo
Apr 26th, 2006, 01:22 PM
Just want to share my positive experience from googles4U
11 Apr 2006 - Ordered in www.googles4U.com w/Paypal, immediate confirmation from CCNow
18 Apr 2006 - Order Shipped
26 Apr 2006 - Shipment Received, no tax no customs (from Pakistan with the famous linen bag :) )
$25.99 USD with Multicoated CR39 Material High Index Lenses 50% blue tint
Bonus tiny screw driver keychain, 2 extra nose pads and screws...how thoughtful!
For that $...excellent value as a driving lens! Big thanks to OP!
http://i3.tinypic.com/wireoi.jpg

wenat
Apr 26th, 2006, 02:50 PM
I am thinking order a pair of the glasses online. However, the Pupil Distance has been left out in my prescription. On goggles4u.com, it says "If PD "Pupil Distance" is not menionted on your Rx please leave the value as default."
Just wondering how important is that measurement?


You can also measure it yourself -- there's info at:
http://www.39dollarglasses.com/help_topics/about_your_prescription.html

Athios
Apr 26th, 2006, 04:20 PM
I thought all the goggles4u glasses come with free "multi-coating", which is "Free Anti-reflective, UV and Scratch Free Coating"???


I wouldn't call it useless, just that you have no UV protection, just like ppl who doesn't wear any glasses. I use my tinted specs mostly for driving, the windshield already blocks out most of the UV any ways.
For driving, yes, plain tinted would work fine. :-0

But having tinted lenses with no UV protection is NOT the same as someone not wearing glasses!
(a) when you do not wear sunglasses in bright sunlight, your pupils contract and restrict the amount of light (and hence UV) going into your eyes
(b) when you wear tinted glasses with no UV prot, your pupils would be (by comparison) dilated, but UV rays will not be blocked by your glasses, so you will actually be exposed to more harmful UV rays compared to not wearing your 'sunglasses' at all~!! :eek:
So basically, unless you have some other protection (e.g. windshield), you're actually better off not wearing them.

insanity
Apr 26th, 2006, 04:34 PM
Looks like goggle4u.com is down...there website is empty.

Galad
Apr 26th, 2006, 04:43 PM
I've just ordered my 4th pair from goggles4u. This time I got frames with transitional lenses for $32.85

I've been extremely pleased with every pair I've gotten so far.

wenat
Apr 26th, 2006, 10:09 PM
Looks like goggle4u.com is down...there website is empty.


I just ordered glasses from them -- the site's up.

DoctorJJ
Apr 26th, 2006, 10:26 PM
I just ordered glasses from them -- the site's up.

BUMP for www.goggles4u.com -- best thing for your money.

warthunder2k
Apr 27th, 2006, 03:19 AM
Wow this is like best thread ever! I will save upwards of 800$, as my local Iris here is so overpriced it's ridiculous. Plus my g/f will do the same, this really is incredible, I can't wait to see how this is going to turn out.

Coolme
Apr 27th, 2006, 01:57 PM
Are ELF/VLF E-field radiation protection coated glasses worth it? Does anyone have it? From what I've seen, only optical4less have them.


Premium Anti-Radiation Coating (computer glasses)
Our unique premium anti-radiation coating is new technology that applied to optical glasses . The conductive coatings block 99.9% ELF/VLF E-field radiation from damaging your eyes .
Always recommended for users who often face computer and TV screens . from optical4less

Aske001
Apr 27th, 2006, 02:17 PM
Are ELF/VLF E-field radiation protection coated glasses worth it?

Only if you wear your tinfoil hat at the same time.

StarStrike
Apr 27th, 2006, 09:04 PM
Has anyone ordered transition lenses from goggles4u? If so, how are they because I'm thinking of ordering a pair.

Galad
Apr 27th, 2006, 09:54 PM
I should be getting my transitions from goggles4u in a few days. I'll post my review as soon as they come in.

laser7500
Apr 28th, 2006, 05:02 PM
Does anyone have any idea how strong each level of tint actually is? May place an order soon and tempted to get just the slightest tint on them.

StarStrike
May 1st, 2006, 05:51 PM
I should be getting my transitions from goggles4u in a few days. I'll post my review as soon as they come in.


Thanks a bunch! I'll be waiting for your review :)

digidaze
May 1st, 2006, 09:00 PM
Received my goggles4u transition lenses about a week ago. The tint is NOT dark it is light. They arrived in a bizarre cloth bag sown shut at one end. The return address was from Zulfari in Pakastan.

THey are okay but I ordered frames too small for my head. They are very lightweight and the technician that assembled them was a little sloppy with the drill holes through the lenses. Overall I'm happy and will prpbably order another pair.

StarStrike
May 2nd, 2006, 12:10 AM
Received my goggles4u transition lenses about a week ago. The tint is NOT dark it is light. They arrived in a bizarre cloth bag sown shut at one end. The return address was from Zulfari in Pakastan.

THey are okay but I ordered frames too small for my head. They are very lightweight and the technician that assembled them was a little sloppy with the drill holes through the lenses. Overall I'm happy and will prpbably order another pair.


Okay, but they still protect you from the sun right? Obviously it won't be as good as regular sunglasses, but it will prolly still do the job right?

predator
May 2nd, 2006, 01:41 AM
Are ELF/VLF E-field radiation protection coated glasses worth it? Does anyone have it? From what I've seen, only optical4less have them.

from optical4less

I am just wondering , isn't that what normal UV coating does? Would also love to hear the opinion from someone who might have a clue about this claim. I am interested in optical4less because they seem to be the only ones that have a hydrophobic coating applied , Can't tell you how annoying it becomes when your biking while its raining and your as blind as me :)

dealcatcher
May 2nd, 2006, 01:52 AM
Just want to share my positive experience from googles4U
11 Apr 2006 - Ordered in www.googles4U.com w/Paypal, immediate confirmation from CCNow
18 Apr 2006 - Order Shipped
26 Apr 2006 - Shipment Received, no tax no customs (from Pakistan with the famous linen bag :) )
$25.99 USD with Multicoated CR39 Material High Index Lenses 50% blue tint
Bonus tiny screw driver keychain, 2 extra nose pads and screws...how thoughtful!
For that $...excellent value as a driving lens! Big thanks to OP!
http://i3.tinypic.com/wireoi.jpg

from Pakistan? Can you confirm?

dasteve
May 2nd, 2006, 02:56 AM
from Pakistan? Can you confirm?

It's right in his picture jeez! look at the bag they sent it in, you can clearly make out "Pakistan".

newt_101
May 2nd, 2006, 01:05 PM
I ordered a pair from googles4u today.
I requested to have them shipped as a 'Gift' to avoid being charged custom charges at the border.

Let's see what happens then they arrive.

Great thread btw...

Marco

I just got mine today in the mail.
I'm loving the cloth bag they came in, it's soooo anti-customs :)

Great condition and pretty quick.

Would defintely buy again :)

nounou23
May 2nd, 2006, 03:10 PM
I really really want to try goggles4u but it kind of bugs me that it comes from pakistan in that kind of shipping bag..

Also I'm looking at Zenni and they seem interesting. Did anyone ever have problem with zenni?

Coolme
May 2nd, 2006, 05:56 PM
I really really want to try goggles4u but it kind of bugs me that it comes from pakistan in that kind of shipping bag..

Also I'm looking at Zenni and they seem interesting. Did anyone ever have problem with zenni?

There is this... but I don't think there is a follow up on that yet... http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2879043&postcount=211

digdoug
May 3rd, 2006, 09:33 PM
LOL, goggles4u is totally tribal*! *meaning really antiquated. Old Place-of-learning (they didn't have schools back then).

I'm considering trying this.

NM, looked at the first page, it's been moved to
http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com

The_Duke_Of_Eli
May 3rd, 2006, 09:40 PM
great resource, do they carry sports glasses?

neo1973
May 4th, 2006, 09:12 AM
On goggle4u's website, when you try to see the details of a metal frame they always say "Material - Light Metal". Does anyone know what kind of metal is it anyway? Thanks!

Thumper
May 4th, 2006, 10:18 AM
I just received my glasses with magnetic clip-on sunglasses from Goggles4u (http://www.goggles4u.com ) May 1 (ordered them April 23) and I am AMAZED considering what I paid for my last pair of glasses. The prescription is right on (no lines, scratches, blurs, visual distortions). I can switch between this pair and my Nikon glasses with no noticeable difference and the quality is better than some of my older glasses. The one downside is to trying to see what I look like with the frames on before you buy. Maybe they can change the website so you can print out a preview, cut them out and try them on :lol:

I used the 5% off coupon: STTJ2W

Thanks again RedFlagDeals and all the posters.

freshiem
May 4th, 2006, 10:35 AM
hi there!

are the magnetic clip ons included? If not, do you know how much they charge for them?

CHeers!

digdoug
May 5th, 2006, 09:10 AM
hi there!

are the magnetic clip ons included? If not, do you know how much they charge for them?

CHeers!

they should be the same price. just click on the sun clip-ons section.
http://www.goggles4u.com/eyewear.asp?category=sunclip

Athios
May 5th, 2006, 07:22 PM
Are ELF/VLF E-field radiation protection coated glasses worth it?
That's just ****ing ********. (err, not you Coolme, I mean the company)

No, it's the not the same as UV protection. In fact, it's right in the opposite end of the radiofrequency spectrum. The terms stand for extremely low frequency/very low frequency electromagnetic-field. Basically, radiowaves, the stuff your radio or ham radio uses.

I can tell you this, if you get this stupid coating and "protect" your eyes from this "radiation", it'll still probably hit your eyes from all directions (or rather, now that I think about it, it won't) because these waves can pass right through your body and walls and stuff.

So it's just an unscrupulous gimmick to screw you of out more money.


Only if you wear your tinfoil hat at the same time.
LOL!! So very true... :lol:

Hey wait, now that I think about it, maybe you can fashion your tinfoil hat into a functional Faraday cage, then you really can protect yourself from these radiowaves! :cheesygri

xtracrispy123
May 5th, 2006, 09:05 PM
Just got my pair from Optical4Less today... highly recommended :)

They took 3 days to make, and shipped out of HK on April 27.. received on May 5!

I took them to the local eyeglass store to get them adjusted... was honest and said I didn't buy them there, but the guy adjusted for free anyway. His first response was "hey nice frame!", before I even told him how much it cost, haha.

nice frames + 1.67 aspheric lens = 70 bux.
Similar setup quoted at pacific mall = 350.

boo ya. I think these are going to be my primary pair now.

predator
May 5th, 2006, 09:09 PM
Wow , that was fast shipping indeed. I am very interested in grabbing a pair off them , was wondering how well that Hydrophopic coating is if you got it ( they seem like the only company who do that) and approxiamtly how thick the lenses were at 1.67. Also what kind of adjustments where needed ?

xtracrispy123
May 5th, 2006, 11:33 PM
the lenses are pretty thin at 1.67.....

my prescription's -6.0, and they protrude about 1.5mm past the back of the frame's metal. (that's with the front totally flush.)

The lenses seem to be really high quality... they have less chromatic abberation (rainbowing) along the edges compared to my pacific mall glasses, and the anti-glare also works better.. I can't see any reflection at all while looking at them in my bathroom mirror (lights overhead).

I just ran my glasses under the sink, and not a single drop of water stuck... its like when you spray your shoes with that water repelent stuff.

Adjustments needed involved bending the back plastic to hook around my ears, and slight tweaking of the nose pieces.. nothing major, took 3 minutes.

This is a sick pair of glasses! If they get other frames that I like, I think I'll try them with the 1.8 index glass lens.

I personally trust optical4less a lot more than the pakistani ones... the packages don't look like terrorist bombs, their service rep is fantastic (same day response to any inquiries), and the product quality is good.

predator
May 5th, 2006, 11:42 PM
Thanks for the reply xtracrispy :) I can't wait to get my eyes checked after my exams and pull a trigger on a pair from them , Just a quick question about chromatic aberration , how does that affect your eyesight? I remember reading somewhere that chromatic aberration was the bending of different wavelengths at different angles , and I thought that’s what caused my problems with a certain shade of red ( weird problem , only a very specific true red seen on a crt , kinda pops out of the screen towards me , giving the text a 3D effect which is kinda painful and annoying , and no , I wasn't on drugs when that happened :cheesygri ) . I also guess I will be getting distance glasses , I really don't know too much about glasses in general , but I thought I needed progressive lenses to combine reading and far distance vision but I got answered a couple of pages back that I didn't need those.

xtracrispy123
May 6th, 2006, 12:51 AM
hah that's awesome.. 3d text jumping out would certianly be good for debugging code.

But no.. even on my worst pair of lenses, it only happened when you look out through the sides of your glasses.. like when you try to check out a girl without moving your head, etc.

not that I do that. :lol:

mrken
May 6th, 2006, 12:51 AM
[...]

I personally trust optical4less a lot more than the pakistani ones... the packages don't look like terrorist bombs, their service rep is fantastic (same day response to any inquiries), and the product quality is good.
I actually wanted to place an order, but not any more when I saw this:
* Additional $59 USD will be charged if your cylinder lower than -2.75 or higher than +2.75.

The charge eliminates the savings for me.


Thanks for the reply xtracrispy :) I can't wait to get my eyes checked after my exams and pull a trigger on a pair from them , Just a quick question about chromatic aberration , how does that affect your eyesight? I remember reading somewhere that chromatic aberration was the bending of different wavelengths at different angles , and I thought that’s what caused my problems with a certain shade of red ( weird problem , only a very specific true red seen on a crt , kinda pops out of the screen towards me , giving the text a 3D effect which is kinda painful and annoying , and no , I wasn't on drugs when that happened :cheesygri ) . I also guess I will be getting distance glasses , I really don't know too much about glasses in general , but I thought I needed progressive lenses to combine reading and far distance vision but I got answered a couple of pages back that I didn't need those.
Chromatic abberations should only be a red/orange colour immediately to the left or right of a boundary between black and white (or between two contrasting colours). A blue/purple colour appears to the other side of the red/orange colour. You should only be able to see it when looking at something at an angle to the normal of the lense.

What you described do not seem like chromatic abberation to me... But I am not an optometrist (only a physics student.) :)


hah that's awesome.. 3d text jumping out would certianly be good for debugging code.

But no.. even on my worst pair of lenses, it only happened when you look out through the sides of your glasses.. like when you try to check out a girl without moving your head, etc.

not that I do that. :lol:
:lol: So predator would see a redhead pop out? :lol:

predator
May 6th, 2006, 01:07 AM
:lol: So predator would see a redhead pop out? :lol:

Absolutely , that’s the only good thing that comes out of it :D , and I do actually prefer redheads , just makes my job that much easier. :lol:

xtracrispy123
May 7th, 2006, 01:57 AM
but he wouldn't get the face.............

just gobs of HAIR hahah

blues45
May 7th, 2006, 03:00 AM
wow, why have i not seen this thread before?

i'd buy one right away but i already have insurance coverage

using mine this year to get a pair or prescription oakley sunglasses :cheesygri

should i opt for a backup regular pair?
dunno if i feel the need, got contacts for sports, even a sports goggle could've used backups when i was a kid, but now, i've been using the same pair of oakley regular glasses for over 2 years. (even helped me get a job once)

how many feel its good to get a back up pair?

kinda wanna get a rimless jus so that i can see the quality/ service for myself so that i can recommend to others

xtracrispy123
May 7th, 2006, 01:40 PM
this might sound a bit vain, bit you can always buy different pairs to get different looks..

like a pair of wireframes for work and interviews........... and then big honking plastic ones when u wanna be emo

GTAdiscountStudent
May 8th, 2006, 02:12 PM
I was so satisfied with my order, i just had to register and tell everybody about it!

after reading this thread for a while and looking at everybodys' replies, i finally decided to pick up some of my own glasses. i placed the order on may 4, and received my glasses today! (may 8). i couldn't believe it when i saw them in my mailbox.

i had ordered them for 39dollarglasses.com, and they came up to about 60 USD. alittle more pricey than other sites but it was well worth it. the measurements on the site were exact and the tint (i had them tinted all the way so i could use them as sunglasses) was great. they didn't mess anything up, i got the case i wanted, the style etc. i'm very happy with my purchase.

also, i'll keep everyone updated about some other glasses i bought off of goggles4u, i bought them on the same day. but since i got 2 pairs for the price i paid for this one, i'm not expecting them anytime soon!

tasamy
May 8th, 2006, 02:30 PM
Thanks for the post :) .... Can we send them the frame and they put the lens ... It is very difficult to choose one on-line >:( ! Any experience on that ?

tasamy
May 8th, 2006, 02:32 PM
Thanks for the post :) .... Can we send them the frame and they put the lens ... It is very difficult to choose one on-line >:( ! Any experience on that ?


I am always do this trick ... I get a good frame from Hakim and then send it to my old home country ... Lens are $30 only ;)

duster
May 13th, 2006, 02:59 AM
OK...I'm ready to order cheap glasses but I need some help...

1st of all, where is the the better place to order simple rimless glasses? No tint, CR39 material, not bifocal. I think it's Goggles4u but I need some advice and comments.

Secondly, there's my presciption (freshly done today at Greiche & Scaff).

O.D. Sphere: -5.75 Cylinder: -0.75 Axis: +118

O.S. Sphere: -5.60 (I think...bad writing...Anyway, I can live with 5.50...I'll call the optician to be sure) Cylinder: -0.75 Axis: +46

It's all that I have...

On the Goggles4u form, there're "Add" and "Pupil distance"...but I don't have these on my prescription...possible? I mean, this is a mistake from my optician or I just have no need of these? Finally, must I write the "+" for the axis in the form or it's always "+" (I mean never "-" ) and the number is enough?

I think it's OK for the "Add" 'cause there's a "Add" box on my prescription paper with nothing in it...but what about "Pupil Distance"? I have to say that my prescription is in french so maybe another abreviation is used?! There's all of the blank box I have: ADD, Prisme, A.V., Vertex. One of these is the french "translation" for "Pupil Distance"?

Oh, if you don't really know about these "technicals", please don't say anything about this...

Thanks!

Mr. Bean
May 13th, 2006, 03:26 AM
Does anyone know if extended healthcare will pay for these glasses given that they're purchased online & from Pakistan, HK, etc?

If so, with my $250 allotment, I can get me 8 pair :cheesygri

Steeve Urkel
May 13th, 2006, 07:50 AM
this might sound a bit vain, bit you can always buy different pairs to get different looks..

like a pair of wireframes for work and interviews........... and then big honking plastic ones when u wanna be emo

Lol,
i think i have about 8 pairs of eyeglasses..and 7 pairs of (designer) sunglasses :lol:

is that too many to have??

simms
May 13th, 2006, 09:33 AM
Ordered from goggles4u 2 weeks ago. Glasses came in 12 business days, extremely well packaged. Package is tracked and requires signature delivery.

For under $30, I'm impressed. I have no problems with the glasses, extended wear doesn't make it dizzy, fairly durable (although I don't want to flex the frame too much)

I'll probably buy more pairs from them in the future. For $30 they can't be beat.

one-cheap-guy
May 13th, 2006, 10:48 AM
Does anyone know if extended healthcare will pay for these glasses given that they're purchased online & from Pakistan, HK, etc?

If so, with my $250 allotment, I can get me 8 pair :cheesygri

Sure did. I just printed off my email from ccnow. Got my back my 30.84!

TheHans
May 13th, 2006, 01:55 PM
this might sound a bit vain, bit you can always buy different pairs to get different looks..

like a pair of wireframes for work and interviews........... and then big honking plastic ones when u wanna be emo

I got my frames from this place:

http://www.allynscura.com/

Great frames, good value with the U.S. dollar being so low. No duty because it's still eyewear.

The Hans

TheHans
May 13th, 2006, 02:02 PM
On the Goggles4u form, there're "Add" and "Pupil distance"...but I don't have these on my prescription...possible? I mean, this is a mistake from my optician or I just have no need of these? Finally, must I write the "+" for the axis in the form or it's always "+" (I mean never "-" ) and the number is enough?

I think it's OK for the "Add" 'cause there's a "Add" box on my prescription paper with nothing in it...but what about "Pupil Distance."

With the Add, as far as I know, there is a number in there if you require bifocals. It has to do with the reading distance. So if you don't need bifocals, the Add will be blank.

The pupil distance is what it sounds like, the distance between pupils. The optician uses this when making the lenses. I guess since you didn't order glasses from your optician, they didn't take that measurement. Others on this site have done things to get the measurement. Maybe if you go back to your optician and ask them to measure it?

The Hans

Battscrew
May 14th, 2006, 10:27 AM
Well I have reading this thread and bit the bullet and ordered - the only thing I am concerned about is my prescription does not list the PD ahh what the heck i usually wear my contacts anyway

duster
May 15th, 2006, 02:29 AM
With the Add, as far as I know, there is a number in there if you require bifocals. It has to do with the reading distance. So if you don't need bifocals, the Add will be blank.

The pupil distance is what it sounds like, the distance between pupils. The optician uses this when making the lenses. I guess since you didn't order glasses from your optician, they didn't take that measurement. Others on this site have done things to get the measurement. Maybe if you go back to your optician and ask them to measure it?

The Hans

It's what I thought about Add. For the PD, you said guys in here have done things to get the measurement...like doing it theirself?!

I don't really remember a kind of pupil distance measurement done by my optician before...is it absolutly needed?

Another question...what about some el cheapo contact lenses from online seller? Since contact lenses are directly on my eyes, I'm not sure I'm willing to buy from cheap place...Any advice/experiences about that?

I can have a set of 6 pairs of disposable (1 month each pairs...but I'm always wearing it 2 1/2 month minimum with no problem) contact lenses for 84$ from my local optician...is it very cheaper online?

EDIT: From the Goggles4U website:

If PD "Pupil Distance" is not menionted on your Rx please leave the value as default.

So I think it's ok even if I've not this measurement

Aske001
May 15th, 2006, 10:54 AM
I don't really remember a kind of pupil distance measurement done by my optician before...is it absolutly needed?

If PD "Pupil Distance" is not menionted on your Rx please leave the value as default.

So I think it's ok even if I've not this measurement

The PD is needed in order for them to know where to put the optical centre of the lens when they grind it. After mounting the lens in the frames, the optical center should be directly in front of your eye when looking straight ahead. If it isn't you will get a little distortion, the kind you typically see towards the outer edge of your lenses when you look sideways out of the corner of your eye.

The PD doesn't have to absolutely exact - the positioning of the centre is never perfect, and you're always going to get a little distortion off-centre anyway since the lens isn't sitting directly on your eye like a contact lens.

I tried the suggested technique of measuring my PD by looking in the mirror with a ruler under my eyes. I estimated it to be about 61mm. My prescription says 64/61, which indicates that I was accurately measuring my "near" PD, but should add about 5% for "far" PD.

neo1973
May 15th, 2006, 12:50 PM
The PD is needed in order for them to know where to put the optical centre of the lens when they grind it. After mounting the lens in the frames, the optical center should be directly in front of your eye when looking straight ahead. If it isn't you will get a little distortion, the kind you typically see towards the outer edge of your lenses when you look sideways out of the corner of your eye.

The PD doesn't have to absolutely exact - the positioning of the centre is never perfect, and you're always going to get a little distortion off-centre anyway since the lens isn't sitting directly on your eye like a contact lens.

I tried the suggested technique of measuring my PD by looking in the mirror with a ruler under my eyes. I estimated it to be about 61mm. My prescription says 64/61, which indicates that I was accurately measuring my "near" PD, but should add about 5% for "far" PD.
Thanks for sharing this with us.

Cheers! :)

Dark
May 17th, 2006, 09:27 AM
FYI guys, one of my buddies whom I told about the online prescription thing went to get his PD. He got refused at three different stores including the one who did his prescription. The ophtalmo said that it was the opticien job and the opticien said that they can't do it unless he's ready ot order a pair. WTF? :mad: :mad: :mad:

duster
May 17th, 2006, 09:55 AM
FYI guys, one of my buddies whom I told about the online prescription thing went to get his PD. He got refused at three different stores including the one who did his prescription. The ophtalmo said that it was the opticien job and the opticien said that they can't do it unless he's ready ot order a pair. WTF? :mad: :mad: :mad:

I'd have said the same thing...

It's normal that you get you Rx 'cause you paid for it, but we can't always ask for free services and then saying "thanks, now I'll make a 180 degrees and go home to order online...thanks Mr. Optician! Better luck next time to sell me something!"

It's not impossible to have this PD, but don't cry if an optician don't want to give it to you free of charge.



In other hand, I've ordered 2 days ago at Goggles4u...I'll let you know about quality and all.

http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10546.jpg

duster
May 17th, 2006, 10:33 AM
Anybody knows something about www.clearlycontacts.ca (http://www.clearlycontacts.ca)??

Something like under 20$ for 6 Acuvue lenses... So, ~40$ for a pair... 50% of my local optician.

Not as great as the glasses deal but there's no little saving! RFD's way, obviously! ;)


Any idea, review or anything else?

cammyle
May 17th, 2006, 10:42 AM
clearlycontracts.ca..pretty good....order from them 5 or 6 times...their location is in the states...but they ship it from Richmond BC...
one more thing to note...the last time i order (2 weeks ago)..the US site has a free shipping option..I ordered from them..it took less than 1 weeks ..

They shipped it Xpresspost from Nootka St Vancouver BC (no duty/custom) and the box said clearlycontracts.ca but i ordered from .com

cammyle
May 17th, 2006, 10:46 AM
they change it...usually i change.. .ca to .com but the US one is

www.coastalcontacts.com

fwhc022883
May 17th, 2006, 11:33 AM
Can someone please tell me what is the high index number (1.5, 1.67, etc) of the lens that Goggles4u uses? I tried emailing them but they didn't respond. Thanks.

Edit: Ok, got their email back. They use 1.56 high index lens.

duster
May 17th, 2006, 12:01 PM
Thanks cammyle for info! I think I'll try ordering from this site one day.

For the coastalcontacts.com site, I know 'cause it's the first place I went at and then I choose the "Canadian flag" - redirected to clearlycontracts.ca

For my Goggles4u order, I have to say that their service is damn quick and efficient! I've sent my order without the PD measurement...thinking it's useless or at least optional...but I finally measure it myself (doubting...) with the "mirror looking" trick and sent them this measurement the following day of my order.

They replied me this, one day after:

Dear Client,

This is to confirm that the information has been incorporated in your prescription.

Please feel free to contact us for further assistance.

Regards,


Sales and Support

www.goggles4u.com

Wait and see...but the first impression is great and encouraging.

StarStrike
May 18th, 2006, 03:22 PM
the OP should change the title of the thread to "Prescription Eyeglasses for just under $30 shipped" as the exchange rate is far lower now :lol:

wenat
May 18th, 2006, 04:54 PM
Ordered from goggles4u on April 26, received today -- May 18.

But I'd ordered a tint, and these glasses are untinted. I'm trying to email them now to see what they'll do for me.

Is it just me, or is the goggles4u site down?

bubble.tea
May 18th, 2006, 05:30 PM
Hey people...those of you who've read through all these different sites....What's the cheapest RIMLESS, HINGELESS frame I can get now?


would really appreciate if anyone can lemme know :lol:

JT94
May 18th, 2006, 05:33 PM
FYI guys, one of my buddies whom I told about the online prescription thing went to get his PD. He got refused at three different stores including the one who did his prescription. The ophtalmo said that it was the opticien job and the opticien said that they can't do it unless he's ready ot order a pair. WTF? :mad: :mad: :mad:

That is poor service. You can measure your PD (pupillary distance) yourself (yes, it will be pretty much exact). Look it up online, but it involves looking at a mirror and placing a dot on the mirror where the center of one pupil lines up, and doing the same for the other pupil. Then measure the distance between the two dots, and there you go. Do it 3 times and average the distance. You'll be surprised to find the number to be exactly the same as what the optician reads out.

joe friday
May 18th, 2006, 05:40 PM
Is it just me, or is the goggles4u site down?

Seems to be working fine for me...

wenat
May 18th, 2006, 07:11 PM
Seems to be a DNS problem. I can get in using their dns number: http://69.90.109.118

Got a reply from them about the missing tint.


Dear Client,
We highly regret to hear that.

Unfortunately the tint information was not included on the fax that we
received which caused this problem.

Please note that we can offer you 20% discount to minimize on your further
order.

If the above solution is not acceptable to you, please suggest a solution
that makes you more comfortable.

Regards,

Sales and Support
www.goggles4u.com

I'm trying to decide what to ask for. Suggestions?

The glasses are great by the way. I'm thinking of asking for 50% off the next order and try to get tinted ones again.

cko64
May 18th, 2006, 07:23 PM
FYI guys, one of my buddies whom I told about the online prescription thing went to get his PD. He got refused at three different stores including the one who did his prescription. The ophtalmo said that it was the opticien job and the opticien said that they can't do it unless he's ready ot order a pair. WTF? :mad: :mad: :mad:
I went to Costco's Optical. They measured my PD without me buying anything.

aquariaguy
May 18th, 2006, 07:25 PM
FYI guys, one of my buddies whom I told about the online prescription thing went to get his PD. He got refused at three different stores including the one who did his prescription. The ophtalmo said that it was the opticien job and the opticien said that they can't do it unless he's ready ot order a pair. WTF? :mad: :mad: :mad:

Call the College of Opticians of Ontario and ask them about it
Toll-Free (Ontario): (800) 990-9793
http://www.coptont.org/


But I'm guessing the optometrist should've done it unless he works for the store (highly unlikely), since you paid him to do an eye exam and it only takes a minute to be exact.

duster
May 19th, 2006, 01:10 AM
That is poor service. You can measure your PD (pupillary distance) yourself (yes, it will be pretty much exact). Look it up online, but it involves looking at a mirror and placing a dot on the mirror where the center of one pupil lines up, and doing the same for the other pupil. Then measure the distance between the two dots, and there you go. Do it 3 times and average the distance. You'll be surprised to find the number to be exactly the same as what the optician reads out.

And what about the distance you're from the mirror?! What about the "maybe bad" reproduction ratio of mirror coating even if you're very close of it?!

To have a real good measurement, the measuring tool MUST be reflected by the same mirror, same distance...if not, you'll not have a correct measurement...it will be proportionnal but do you know the good ratio?! So, look at the mirror and place a rule under your eyes, or ask to someone to do it for you.

Dark
May 19th, 2006, 02:04 AM
Call the College of Opticians of Ontario and ask them about it
Toll-Free (Ontario): (800) 990-9793
http://www.coptont.org/


But I'm guessing the optometrist should've done it unless he works for the store (highly unlikely), since you paid him to do an eye exam and it only takes a minute to be exact.
It's in montreal, qc and yes the optometrist refused to add it on the prescription saying that it's the opticien job :(
Costco have in general amazing customer service... so it should work there.

Dark
May 19th, 2006, 02:06 AM
I'd have said the same thing...

It's normal that you get you Rx 'cause you paid for it, but we can't always ask for free services and then saying "thanks, now I'll make a 180 degrees and go home to order online...thanks Mr. Optician! Better luck next time to sell me something!"

It's not impossible to have this PD, but don't cry if an optician don't want to give it to you free of charge.



In other hand, I've ordered 2 days ago at Goggles4u...I'll let you know about quality and all.

http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10546.jpg
Man he PAID the guy for his eye exam... isn't he entitled to have his pd measured? It's not like they're doing it for free!!
On another note, I am more satisfied with my glasses from zenni than the one I got from google4u.

duster
May 19th, 2006, 03:25 AM
Eye exam..ok..and he got his Rx too! He paid for, he got it!

But PD is for glasses making, not for myopia measuring! An optician can, if he's nice, measure it for you but IMO it's his own choice to do it for FREE. I can be wrong about this but it's my interpretation. I don't think PD is an obligatory part of the Rx... Sorry if I'm wrong. But I don't remember ANY kind of PD measuring with all my previous eye exam (I don't talk about frame testing and glasses ordering...just the exam).

Go to a garage for a car repair...the mechanic MUST give you an estimate BEFORE doing some job if the repairing cost is higher than a X amount (don't remember how much). It's ok, it's law and it's fair. But he's ABSOLUTLY not obliged to do a FREE estimation for you if you're going there saying "can you do an estimate, than I'll go elsewhere for repairs"...

Same thing, IMO, for the PD measurement... You can be wise and play a kind of "game" if you really want it (and if the optician isn't enought cool to do it for you). Try some frame, get the PD, and then say "I'll think about it...I'll come back in few days".

Is it the RFD effect thinking EVERYONE in the world owe you something?!

EDIT: Typo

Safflon
May 19th, 2006, 07:59 AM
:arrowu:

That mechanic analogy is a poor one. Mechanics DO give you quotes as to how much repairs might cost. It's when you get a computer analysis from them and a complete once over that it would cost you anything. But if you have something specific that needs to be done, they will give you a quote (a FREE one).

YMMV on the PD. Try a couple of different places for this measurement. Also, I looked at an old receipt from my last purchase of glasses. The PD was in the spot where they darkened it out. Then have someone measure your PD and see if they are close.


Eye exam..ok..and he got his Rx too! He paid for, he got it!

But PD is for glasses making, not for myopia measuring! An optician can, if he's nice, measure it for you but IMO it's his own choice to do it for FREE. I can be wrong about this but it's my interpretation. I don't think PD is an obligatory part of the Rx... Sorry if I'm wrong. But I don't remember ANY kind of PD measuring with all my previous eye exam (I don't talk about frame testing and glasses ordering...just the exam).

Go to a garage for a car repair...the mechanic MUST give you an estimate BEFORE doing some job if the repairing cost is higher than a X amount (don't remember how much). It's ok, it's law and it's fair. But he's ABSOLUTLY not obliged to do a FREE estimation for you if you're going there saying "can you do an estimate, than I'll go elsewhere for repairs"...

Same thing, IMO, for the PD measurement... You can be wise and play a kind of "game" if you really want it (and if the optician isn't enought cool to do it for you). Try some frame, get the PD, and then say "I'll think about it...I'll come back in few days".

Is it the RFD effect thinking EVERYONE in the world owe you something?!

EDIT: Typo

the watcher
May 20th, 2006, 02:30 AM
i wanna order from goggles4u but the only thing keeping me back is the pictures. can't really tell wha tis what color. i wanted all silver glasses but ic an't tell if the part that goes over your ear is silver as well or darker.
here is an example.
http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10699.jpg

or these

http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10749.jpg

duster
May 20th, 2006, 04:16 AM
The plastic seems to be grey at least...but, for 30 bucks, is it very important?!

Mr. Bean
May 20th, 2006, 04:18 AM
i wanna order from goggles4u but the only thing keeping me back is the pictures. can't really tell wha tis what color. i wanted all silver glasses but ic an't tell if the part that goes over your ear is silver as well or darker.
here is an example.
http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10699.jpg

or these

http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10749.jpg

Well IMO they both look like the same silver colour. The arm that extends over your ear looks like black plastic in both.

digdoug
May 20th, 2006, 12:22 PM
hey, all. check out this site:
http://www.allaboutvision.com/buysmart/eyeglasses.htm

it gives out a lot of information about glasses. very useful site. check it out.

does anyone know if canada customs charges duties for glasses? I'm thinking of ordering several pairs, but I'm afraid they'll hit me with them. will they ding me for duties even if it's from the US? I know a bunch of you got your stuff without getting hit, but does that mean it's official policy to not charge duties or were they just lucky?

muffin
May 20th, 2006, 01:19 PM
does anyone know if canada customs charges duties for glasses? I'm thinking of ordering several pairs, but I'm afraid they'll hit me with them. will they ding me for duties even if it's from the US? I know a bunch of you got your stuff without getting hit, but does that mean it's official policy to not charge duties or were they just lucky?

I called canada customs and for prescription glasses duties are not to be charged, if they are sunglasses then they will.

dougi3000
May 22nd, 2006, 02:40 AM
I have fairly high prescription at -5.75 and -5.00.

So im looking at these websites and I am trying to figure out which ones are cheapest for lens index of 1.67 (or close to it). Also need another one for sunglasses, so for a cheap tining option.

from what i can see, goggles4u only has 1.54 for all glasses, so that is out of the question, but they have cheap (free) tinting

optical4less has 1.67index for +$35. for sunglasses +$8 tinting (+$39 mirror coating optional) OR clipons for your glasses for +$25 instead. So for a full pair of sunglasses with 1.67 is $29+$35+$8=$72!!!!! OR $29+$35+$25clipons=$89 (will give full standard prescription+clipons)

zenni has 1.67 for +$37.01, and coating costs $4.90 + shipping which is $4.95. So for a standard pair, it will cost $65.86. But the clip ons for the glasses are really cheap at $2.95 each or tinting costs $4.95.

39dollarglasses (base is 1.59index for all glasses) has 1.67 for +$49.95 +$7.95shipping! and tinted 1.67 costs +$59.95. So a standar pair of 1.67 costs $96.90! and tinted lenses is $106.90!!!

Selectspecs is an additional +$106 for 1.67index!!!!!!!!! I didn't go any further into the options after seeing that. HAHA.. well their 1.60 optioni is only +$38, and their 1.56 is free standard.


So from what it seems, is that Zenni and optical4u seem to have good pricing for thin lenses... so far. If anyone has any other suggestions I would like to hear it.

edit. i dont recall seeing any of them that have sport type prescription sunglasses. :/

duster
May 22nd, 2006, 03:18 AM
Damn! Did you see the new frames at Goggles?

Just what I was looking for! But they were not there when I did my order obviously! :mad:

I think I'll order a second pair...hopefully, it's only 30$

I'm talking about the "oakley like" frame with straight arms...

Oakley half rims:

http://mi.oakley.com/site/media/cache/4237526b4fcca.jpg_0_0_0.jpg

Goggles half rims:

http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10987.jpg

Oakley full rims:

http://mi.oakley.com/site/media/cache/420272a23b6b6.jpg_0_0_0.jpg

Goggles full rims:

http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10972.jpg


Not identical for sure but hey! for 30$ they look nice and are pretty close! Especially for the full rims one.


EDIT: First of all, sorry for the big pictures...In other hand, I can't decide which is the nicer one...half or full rims...I think I'll start a poll about that! ;) Which model do you prefer as "normal" glasses, and which one as "sunglasses"?

xtremedrunk
May 22nd, 2006, 03:35 AM
I remember seeing them when the thread first started. They look pretty similar to the real thing. The full rims are def. for sunglasses and the half rims are for glasses.

duster
May 22nd, 2006, 04:16 AM
It's what I thought but after some test, I think that the half rims one can be pretty nice and "advantageously" worn as sunglasses...a kind of "half wire by Oakley".

Look at this:

Disclaimer: These colors ARE not the right colors from Goggles4u since I have no idea about their tinting process and colors. Also, I know the quality of my works isn't very good but I did this in 5 minutes with Photoshop so...be comprehensive! I just tried to test some colors, that's it ;)

Half rims:

http://www.dusterdotcom.com/temp/sunglasses/half_1_black.jpg
http://www.dusterdotcom.com/temp/sunglasses/half_1_blue.jpg
http://www.dusterdotcom.com/temp/sunglasses/half_1_grey.jpg

Full rims:

http://www.dusterdotcom.com/temp/sunglasses/full_1_black.jpg
http://www.dusterdotcom.com/temp/sunglasses/full_1_blue.jpg
http://www.dusterdotcom.com/temp/sunglasses/full_1_grey.jpg

Oakley Half Wire:

http://www.dusterdotcom.com/temp/sunglasses/half-wire_grey.jpg

advantage21
May 22nd, 2006, 05:59 AM
:arrowu: Excellent work. I just ordered a pair in green tints. I always wanted a pair of these Oaklye knockoff styles but they were not on the Goggles4u for the last couple of months.

Thanks for the pics.

fakishan
May 22nd, 2006, 08:36 AM
Received mine from Zenni.

I give the lenses 5/5 and the frame 3/5.

The only problem with the frame is that it's not perfectly symetrical (not a adjustement problem, but a manufacturing/soldering problem).

I would definetly reorder and recommend to friends.

Warning; just because they cost less doesn't mean you have to waste your money buying several pairs..... it's easy to fall into that madness ;)

dougi3000
May 22nd, 2006, 09:39 AM
interesting.
anyone know what percentage of tint looks like what?
i mean, what are regular sunglass tint?

JWL
May 22nd, 2006, 03:50 PM
For what its worth, I just found the following on this website:
http://www.onlinesunglasses.net/education.html

* Lens darkness - What you plan to use the sunglasses for determines the darkness of the tint. For outdoor sports such as mountain climbing and snow-skiing, you want a tint that blocks most light. (You can buy sunglasses that block up to 97 percent of light!) For most purposes, like going to the beach or driving, look for a tint that absorbs or blocks 70 percent to 90 percent of light. Tints that offer less than 60-percent blockage are mainly good for fashion since they offer only mild protection.

Also has discussion of the merits of the different tinting colours.

digdoug
May 22nd, 2006, 06:21 PM
I called canada customs and for prescription glasses duties are not to be charged, if they are sunglasses then they will.

thanks, good to know. hope the one person who got hit by CC will get his/her money back.

dougi3000
May 22nd, 2006, 07:05 PM
doh!
i ordered glasses with only 80% black. I hope they turn out ok. :/

TheYellowDart
May 23rd, 2006, 03:05 PM
ordered this today
http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10896.jpg

we'll see how it goes! :cheesygri

StarStrike
May 23rd, 2006, 06:52 PM
thanks, good to know. hope the one person who got hit by CC will get his/her money back.


Well if they are prescription sunglasses, then they can't charge duty either.

g_goo_goo
May 23rd, 2006, 07:26 PM
ordered this today
http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10896.jpg

we'll see how it goes! :cheesygri


Which online store did you order this... looks pretty cool, need new glasses...

TheYellowDart
May 23rd, 2006, 07:46 PM
oops.. forgot to mention
it's from goggles4u.com

i found their frames are more stylish and cheap :cheesygri

renhui
May 24th, 2006, 11:56 AM
Ordered from goggle4u on May 12th and got it today.
I am very satisfied with the purchase. :lol:

duster
May 24th, 2006, 12:43 PM
Goggles4u has quick customer services at least.

I asked some question, received this answer 2 days later:

Dear Client,

This refers to your message.

(1) Tinted glasses are not multicoated. It is not possible.

(2) 100% tint is recommend for sunglasses.

(3) Regret to inform you but we do not have pictures of different tint at this moment.

(4) Blue is Navy Blue


Please feel free to contact us for further assistance.
Regards,

Sales and Support

BlueMax
May 24th, 2006, 01:42 PM
what's the final word? Deal or no deal?

n4h
May 24th, 2006, 01:58 PM
Ordered from goggle4u on May 12th and got it today.
I am very satisfied with the purchase. :lol:

Damn, i ordered mine on the 2nd of May and I STILL haven't recieved mine yet, dunno whats up with that.

Did they put it in your mailbox or did u have to sign for it?

dougi3000
May 24th, 2006, 02:25 PM
Goggles4u has quick customer services at least.


(2) 100% tint is recommend for sunglasses.


Sales and Support

OMG, i ordered 80% tint. i wonder if they can change my order.

duster
May 24th, 2006, 02:35 PM
Definitively a deal! Even if (if...) the glasses aren't 1st quality. ~30-50$ for 2nd quality is still a deal IMO.

Dependently what are your needs and preferences (tint, multicoating, high index glasses, etc...), the store will change but I think you'll find something for you.

kiasu
May 24th, 2006, 03:00 PM
Damn, i ordered mine on the 2nd of May and I STILL haven't recieved mine yet, dunno whats up with that.

Did they put it in your mailbox or did u have to sign for it?

Me too man...May 2...shipped on May 9 and where's the heck is my order.. :?:

renhui
May 24th, 2006, 03:04 PM
It was a registered mail and I had to sign for it.

newbeetle
May 24th, 2006, 03:07 PM
anybody cares to post a pic of their glasses received?

duster
May 24th, 2006, 03:45 PM
Pics would be fine yes!

You can also go there: http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/

digdoug
May 24th, 2006, 04:19 PM
my prescription on both eyes is -7.00. how thick would the lenses be on a rimless frame? I want to get one with a wide eye width... I'm just wondering if it'll be ludicrously thick or tolerably thick. anyone guesstimate what size in mm it will be for an eyewidth of 50. I'm not even sure what index glasses they use at goggles4u. 1.51?

duster
May 24th, 2006, 05:02 PM
my prescription on both eyes is -7.00. how thick would the lenses be on a rimless frame? I want to get one with a wide eye width... I'm just wondering if it'll be ludicrously thick or tolerably thick. anyone guesstimate what size in mm it will be for an eyewidth of 50. I'm not even sure what index glasses they use at goggles4u. 1.51?

1.54

Don't really know about thickness... depends of the glasses size. But 1.54 index for a -7.00 Rx isn't enough to have thin glasses IMO.

Depends of what is your "tolerance level"...

dougi3000
May 24th, 2006, 05:17 PM
1.54

Don't really know about thickness... depends of the glasses size. But 1.54 index for a -7.00 Rx isn't enough to have thin glasses IMO.

Depends of what is your "tolerance level"...


It will be thick. -7 is fairly heavy prescription. I think most people around 3-5 Rx opt for higher index lenses. Anything higher, is a definite higher index lens. :)

manixc
May 24th, 2006, 05:24 PM
I just got mine from zenni optical. Not too bad.

For high prescription, go for 1.67 index. and choose smaller frame for thinner lens.

Battscrew
May 24th, 2006, 06:20 PM
I have -3.25 & -3.50 so i would assume they would be thick from Goggles?

dougi3000
May 24th, 2006, 06:36 PM
-3 shouldnt be too bad. Just don't get the giganto 70's super huge glasses.
remember it gets thick at the edges, and thin in the middle, so if you have smaller lenses, it will be thinner all around.

StarStrike
May 24th, 2006, 07:13 PM
I have -3.25 & -3.50 so i would assume they would be thick from Goggles?


My brother has a prescription higher than that and it's not too bad, you can tell it's thicker than mine, but it doesn't look bad by any means.

neo1973
May 24th, 2006, 07:19 PM
Might get one of this:

http://www.dusterdotcom.com/temp/sunglasses/half-wire_grey.jpg

:lol:

hotfishy
May 24th, 2006, 07:32 PM
do they ship anywhere in Canada?

hankscorpio
May 24th, 2006, 07:39 PM
Yep, for free.
Edit: Oops. not all are free. Goggles4u is though.

kiasu
May 24th, 2006, 08:11 PM
Might get one of this:

http://www.dusterdotcom.com/temp/sunglasses/half-wire_grey.jpg

:lol:

is that from Goggles as well? what's product # pls :D

dr_niko
May 24th, 2006, 08:18 PM
Me too man...May 2...shipped on May 9 and where's the heck is my order.. :?:

Same with me....Apr 29 purchase, shipped May 9, and still no show. I've already contacted them, but no reply yet.

StarStrike
May 24th, 2006, 08:28 PM
is that from Goggles as well? what's product # pls :D


no, those are real Oakleys. The poster was trying to show us the Oakley look alikes, so if you want a pair like those then check out the replicas and order one of them. As for the product # for the replicas, you'll have to ask the original poster or look through the "Half Rim" section on www.goggles4u.com

dougi3000
May 24th, 2006, 08:56 PM
Same with me....Apr 29 purchase, shipped May 9, and still no show. I've already contacted them, but no reply yet.

Well i deal with ordering outside canada quite a bit, but customs usually hold the packages for about 3 weeks when i order from the USA for most of my items (unless they are shipped via express). 1 week shipping, 3 weeks sitting in customs.

edit: usually i forget I ordered anything, and then I get surprised that i have a package at the door. :D

hotweiss
May 24th, 2006, 10:37 PM
Thanks, will be ordering from goggles4u.com as they have a DHL option.

Edit: Thanks to somebody else's comment I'll be ordering from optical4less.com as they offer high index lenses (1.67). It's still going to be one-fourth the price of any store here.

Edit: Optical4less.com even accepts PayPal, wow.

duster
May 25th, 2006, 03:23 AM
I'm wondering how thin will be the glasses if I order a tinted pair with no Rx...

For anyone who ordered tinted pair, can you post some pics please with the color name?

I want to order a "half rims Oakley like" pair with blue glasses but I'm not sure about the color look...

Damn hesitation, that will kill me one day! :lol:

duster
May 25th, 2006, 03:28 AM
is that from Goggles as well? what's product # pls :D

These Oakley "Half Wire" are hot...aren't they?! ;)

But damn expensive... >:( 265$!!! I can't convince myself to put that money on sunglasses...

My prefered are the "Penny" but...~500 fu***** bucks!!! :|

30$ is more reasonable :D

JWL
May 25th, 2006, 08:18 AM
These are somewhat similar to my Bolle Vigilantes in that they allow people who need prescription glasses to have a full wrap-around style.

http://optical4less.com/index.cgi?sec=DU5RfV4ePMajyGj4otjEXA52zUhULx&mode=clipin

Quite a different style than the Oakley's but interesting non-the-less.

majesus
May 25th, 2006, 10:43 AM
I'm also trying to find a nice pair of prescription sunglasses. But didn't like (or find what I like) from browsing through these online stores. I wanted something that had a "wrap" style look.

Maybe I missed something. Especially with goggles4u.com. I spend a long time looking at the frames they offered. I keep thinking: "would this make a good sunglass?" I want something that keeps the sun out around the corners.

I went to several local stores around VGA. I found some I really LIKE, of course $300+ for a pair of prescription sunglasses. Oh boy. :(


I couldn't really find those frames online. I wouldn't mind those Oakley's looklikes. Anyone find anything other?

milobloom
May 25th, 2006, 12:13 PM
I notice that optical4less is tacking on an additional $59 US if you have a higher strength prescription. Guess I'll definitely be going with goggles4u when the time comes!

From their web page:
"* Additional $59 USD will be charged if your cylinder lower than -2.75 or higher than +2.75
Additional $ 3 USD will be charged for each degree of prism correction on each lens."

Milo

hotweiss
May 25th, 2006, 12:25 PM
I notice that optical4less is tacking on an additional $59 US if you have a higher strength prescription. Guess I'll definitely be going with goggles4u when the time comes!

From their web page:
"* Additional $59 USD will be charged if your cylinder lower than -2.75 or higher than +2.75
Additional $ 3 USD will be charged for each degree of prism correction on each lens."

Milo

Dam it, I didn't see the $59 surcharge.

hotweiss
May 25th, 2006, 01:05 PM
OK, after much research the cheapest site for high index (1.67) distance glasses is Zenni Optical. With shipping you can pick-up a pair of glasses for $62 US. Compare that with $300 Canadian. Guess I'm ordering from Zenni.

digdoug
May 25th, 2006, 07:04 PM
OK, after much research the cheapest site for high index (1.67) distance glasses is Zenni Optical. With shipping you can pick-up a pair of glasses for $62 US. Compare that with $300 Canadian. Guess I'm ordering from Zenni.

if only they didn't charge a ludicrously high $9 for shipping to Canada. I mean c'mon, we're right across the border. zenni would be great except for the shipping. I wonder if they've ever had any special deals, like 50% off shipping. anyone in T.O. wanna group buy and split shipping?

Daijoubu
May 25th, 2006, 07:17 PM
Those who ordered from Zenni, how much was the actual shipping charge?

dougi3000
May 25th, 2006, 07:43 PM
Those who ordered from Zenni, how much was the actual shipping charge?

$9 shipping.

my order for 1.67 glasses with coating was $63.86 +$9 shipping = $72.86USD.

truong99
May 25th, 2006, 07:55 PM
Gee, my made in China Marchon frame costs $329. Just because it is made in China, it can still be quality frame. To you everything made in China is dirt cheap. Well, I beg to differ. I have no problem buying Made in China product.

I bet my glasses which is made in China is more expensive than any glasses you ever own, and I have a receipt to prove it too. Shall we scan our receipts?


but for that price why not buy something that made better.
I bought a pair from Versace 10 year ago for $450. Still look good to this day without fading. oh it made in Italy

duster
May 25th, 2006, 08:02 PM
if only they didn't charge a ludicrously high $9 for shipping to Canada. I mean c'mon, we're right across the border. zenni would be great except for the shipping. I wonder if they've ever had any special deals, like 50% off shipping. anyone in T.O. wanna group buy and split shipping?

You're thinking 9$ for shipping is high from US?! :| :|

Ch28
May 25th, 2006, 08:55 PM
You're thinking 9$ for shipping is high from US?! :| :|

Hahaha....he's like all the other members out East that always complain about NCIX and their shipping.

advantage21
May 25th, 2006, 09:29 PM
Goggles4u has quick customer services at least.

I asked some question, received this answer 2 days later:

Dear Client,

This refers to your message.

(1) Tinted glasses are not multicoated. It is not possible.

(2) 100% tint is recommend for sunglasses.

(3) Regret to inform you but we do not have pictures of different tint at this moment.

(4) Blue is Navy Blue


Please feel free to contact us for further assistance.
Regards,

Sales and Support



This is what they told me regarding how dark to go for sunglasses:



Dear Client

80% tint is dark enough for sunglasses.



Please feel free to contact us for further assistance.



Regards,



Sales and Support

www.goggles4u.com



Email : info@goggles4u.com
US Fax: 1-866-450-8782
UK Fax: 0870 622 0261

advantage21
May 25th, 2006, 09:36 PM
I have -3.25 & -3.50 so i would assume they would be thick from Goggles?

I have -4.50 in my left eye and the lense is about 4mm at the thickest edge with their 1.56 index lenses. Which is only 1mm thicker than my the 1.60 index lenses I bought at the local eyewear shop.

jccc
May 25th, 2006, 10:12 PM
I notice that optical4less is tacking on an additional $59 US if you have a higher strength prescription. Guess I'll definitely be going with goggles4u when the time comes!

From their web page:
"* Additional $59 USD will be charged if your cylinder lower than -2.75 or higher than +2.75
Additional $ 3 USD will be charged for each degree of prism correction on each lens."

Milo

The cylinder prism correction stuff isn't what you are probably thinking it is. The strength like -3.5, -7 etc. is the sphere, not the cylinder measurement.

hotweiss
May 25th, 2006, 10:25 PM
The cylinder prism correction stuff isn't what you are probably thinking it is. The strength like -3.5, -7 etc. is the sphere, not the cylinder measurement.

Dam, you are right! I would have saved myself $20 if I ordered from optical4less.com. I confused the sphere measurement with the cylinder measurement.

The new champ is optical4less.com!!!

Too late to change my order, but my mom is ordering 2 pairs, so we'll use optical4less.com.

kiasu
May 26th, 2006, 10:40 AM
ordered on May 2 and finally got it yesterday May 25

rhainman
May 26th, 2006, 11:06 AM
I alos received my order from Goggles4u yesterday. I ordered May 9, and they shipped May 11. The one thing I did notice was that my new -4.00 prescription did seem a bit thicker than 4mm on the outer edges, but nothing I can do about that. I didn't actually measure them with a ruler. The glasses seem solidly constructed, but the arm length - which isn't specified on the ordering page - is around 135 (I think - the numbers rubbed off very quickly), so if you have a larger head, they may be on the small side in terms of reaching your ear, and hence may not be a good fit. It's slightly small on my head, but usable.
I suppose you could email them before buying to see what the arm length is, as that is a crucial measurement they are lacking on their site.

I got this style:
http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10754.jpg

Coolme
May 26th, 2006, 11:10 AM
I just recieved my glasses from zenni. I am quite happy with the frame (it's a hingeless memory/flexible plastic) but I am not happy with the lenses. Because everything from about 25% in from the hinges is distorted, it's like looking through a round ball. It's very annoying. If someone knows why this is, please enlighten me. BTW, my presciption is -4.75 sph for my right eye and -4.50 sph for my left one. And I ordered the 1.57 index lenses.

Bloaded
May 26th, 2006, 11:31 AM
Im intrested in picking up a pair of memory titanium frames, the concept is cool since I tend to break my glasses quite often. If anyone has had experience with the material any input would be appreciated.
Zenni optical seems to offer good deals with high perscriptions and they offer this material. Goggles4u also seems good too but they're website is hard to navigate by materials. They do have some "Metal/Polyflex" frames though but I have no idea what that material is.

dougi3000
May 26th, 2006, 12:24 PM
I just recieved my glasses from zenni. I am quite happy about them except for the lenses part, about 25% from the way in from the hinges. Everything is too distorted, it's like looking through a round ball. It's very annoying. If someone knows why this is, please post. BTW, my presciption is -4.75 sph for my right eye and -4.50 sph for my left one. And I ordered the 1.57 index lenses.

I think this might be because of the PD measurement.
Did you get it measured professionally, or by yourself?

Coolme
May 26th, 2006, 12:39 PM
I think this might be because of the PD measurement.
Did you get it measured professionally, or by yourself?

I got it done professionally when I was taking my prescription. And my optometrist is okay cause my prescription was right.

I was actually kind of thinking that it had something to do with the thinkness of the glasses cause everything looks fine if I am looking straight, but if I look at the side closest to a hinge (where the lense is the thickest) I can see distortion.

dougi3000
May 26th, 2006, 12:57 PM
I got it done professionally when I was taking my prescription. And my optometrist is okay cause my prescription was right.

I was actually kind of thinking that it had something to do with the thinkness of the glasses cause everything looks fine if I am looking straight, but if I look at the side closest to a hinge (where the lense is the thickest) I can see distortion.


hmm.. maybe it is the high index then. I wonder how bad mine will be since i am -5.25. :O I have a PD of 71. :O

hankscorpio
May 26th, 2006, 03:26 PM
I was actually kind of thinking that it had something to do with the thinkness of the glasses cause everything looks fine if I am looking straight, but if I look at the side closest to a hinge (where the lense is the thickest) I can see distortion.
I had the exact same problem with the ones I got from Hakim last summer. If I looked straight I was fine, but to look out the side corner everything was distorted and the depth was all off. I think it was just my eyes adjusting to the stronger prescription and higher index lens, because it went away after about 2 weeks. It drove me nuts for the first 2 though, and I was almost ready to take them back.

Al Kaseltzer
May 26th, 2006, 03:32 PM
Im intrested in picking up a pair of memory titanium frames, the concept is cool since I tend to break my glasses quite often. If anyone has had experience with the material any input would be appreciated.
Zenni optical seems to offer good deals with high perscriptions and they offer this material. Goggles4u also seems good too but they're website is hard to navigate by materials. They do have some "Metal/Polyflex" frames though but I have no idea what that material is.

Optical4Less has a pretty cool video and a section devoted to "bendable frames" but they all cost $59.

http://optical4less.com/bendhigh.wmv

Coolme
May 26th, 2006, 05:01 PM
I had the exact same problem with the ones I got from Hakim last summer. If I looked straight I was fine, but to look out the side corner everything was distorted and the depth was all off. I think it was just my eyes adjusting to the stronger prescription and higher index lens, because it went away after about 2 weeks. It drove me nuts for the first 2 though, and I was almost ready to take them back.

hmm.. I think I've sloved my problem http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2905728&postcount=232 I think it's because Zenni doesn't use aspheric lenses. :mad:

BUYERS BEWARE!!

Bloaded
May 26th, 2006, 06:17 PM
Optical4Less has a pretty cool video and a section devoted to "bendable frames" but they all cost $59.

http://optical4less.com/bendhigh.wmv

Thats an awesome video, thanks :)

The reason im intrested is on zenni optical the memory titanium (hoping they are similar) are only about $29

dougi3000
May 26th, 2006, 06:17 PM
hmm.. I think I've sloved my problem http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2905728&postcount=232 I think it's because Zenni doesn't use aspheric lenses. :mad:

BUYERS BEWARE!!

oh no!
if mine dont work out, i will order another pair from opticals4less. :)

hotweiss
May 26th, 2006, 07:33 PM
I ordered from high-index lenses from Zenni, so I'll let you know how they work out.

HowEver
May 26th, 2006, 08:23 PM
Optical4Less has a pretty cool video and a section devoted to "bendable frames" but they all cost $59.

http://optical4less.com/bendhigh.wmv


Very useful video, provides a good idea of what to look for.

dr_niko
May 26th, 2006, 11:19 PM
so i finally receive my pair of glasses from goggles4u on May 26 after ordering on Apr 29. the prescription is obviously off. blurred vision and discomfort in the left eye. and for some odd reason, the right lens has not been cut or fit to the frame properly, so that there are actual spaces between the frame and the lens in some areas (where it should be flush). also, considering the frame is brand spanking new, its a bit bent out of shape (doesn't lie flat on a table without a wabble). although this company offers a few funky frames at cheap prices, it's definately not worth loosing your vision over.

hankscorpio
May 26th, 2006, 11:50 PM
What company did you use?

ElectricFuneral
May 27th, 2006, 02:16 AM
Been following this thread a long time -- bought a pair from goggles4u a while back and am very happy with them.

However, something important for your eyes' health I thought I would point out to you all is that if you add tinting to their lenses to use as sunglasses, they no longer have UV protection. I emailed them twice about this to be sure as I was considering buying a second pair as sunglasses for the summer -- see last email from them, below:


Dear Client,
That's correct. If you add tinting to the lenses then the lenses will not be
UV protected.

Please feel free to contact us for further assistance.

Regards,

Sales and Support
www.goggles4u.com

Email : info@goggles4u.com
US Fax: 1-866-450-8782
UK Fax: 0870 622 0261
-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:51 AM
To: info@goggles4u.com
Subject: clarification re: question

Hoping for a bit of clarification based on your response to my previous
question. I am under the impression that the untinted prescription glasses
I purchased from you 2 months ago have UV protection coating.

In the below message are you stating that if I were to order another pair of
prescription glasses, but this time I was to add 100% tinting to use as
sunglasses, that they would no longer have the UV protection coating as
well?

Many thanks,


--
Dear Client,

This refers to your message:

(1) 100% tint is recommended for sunglasses.
(2) Unfortunately our sunglasses are not UV protected.

Please feel free to contact us for further assistance.

Regards,
Sales and Support

www.goggles4u.com

Email : info@goggles4u.com
US Fax: 1-866-450-8782
UK Fax: 0870 622 0261

I guess the only reasonable alternatives would be to either buy one of the frames that comes with the magnetic sunglass clip-on thing, or to buy elsewhere.

neo1973
May 27th, 2006, 09:44 AM
if you add tinting to their lenses to use as sunglasses, they no longer have UV protection.
Thanks for the info. UV protection is more important than tinting for me. :)

the watcher
May 27th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Thanks for the info. UV protection is more important than tinting for me. :)

tinting without UV protection is very dangerous. your pupils open up more letting more light in because of tinting but since the UV doesn't get filtered out... :eek:

dougi3000
May 27th, 2006, 01:39 PM
Oh Noes!

ainsane
May 27th, 2006, 04:52 PM
Ordered a pair from goggles4u... wish me luck! Just under $30 with shipping... awesome deal if they arrive in working condition.

treo22
May 27th, 2006, 05:54 PM
hhmmm..awesome deals will try it out !!

nacho113
May 27th, 2006, 09:54 PM
Been following this thread a long time -- bought a pair from goggles4u a while back and am very happy with them.

However, something important for your eyes' health I thought I would point out to you all is that if you add tinting to their lenses to use as sunglasses, they no longer have UV protection. I emailed them twice about this to be sure as I was considering buying a second pair as sunglasses for the summer

Someone posted this link earlier in the thread: http://www.onlinesunglasses.net/education.html
Lots of good info about sunglasses and tinting. Looks like you can get some UV protection if you pick the right colour and intensity of the tint.

Amber and brownish tints are also good general purpose tints. They have the added benefit of reducing glare and have molecules that absorb higher frequency colors, such as blue, in addition to UV rays. There has been research that suggests that near-UV light frequencies such as blue and violet can contribute to the formation of cataracts over time. In fact, Sun Tiger has a patent on a particular version of these called Blue Blockers. These sunglasses also distort colors similar to yellow lenses, but increase contrast and clarity.

dougi3000
May 27th, 2006, 10:01 PM
I wonder if we could stick some UV blocking film on the glasses ourselves. like those window films that block 99% UVa and UVb (such as Vista Film, or the 3M stuff)

TheYellowDart
May 27th, 2006, 10:16 PM
for those who are worry about the UV coating for your sunglasses, just order GLASS material instead of C39 material.
Glass block UV ray while C39 doesn't!

so when you order glass material, you don't have to worry about the UV coating that will not be applied after the tint.

dougi3000
May 27th, 2006, 10:36 PM
for those who are worry about the UV coating for your sunglasses, just order GLASS material instead of C39 material.
Glass block UV ray while C39 doesn't!

so when you order glass material, you don't have to worry about the UV coating that will not be applied after the tint.

not sure if that is possible. I think the tinting process requires plastic lenses, as they just dip the lenses into dyes and the plastic absorbs the colour.

My theory is that the lenses come already coated, so to dye it they have to remove the coating and they don't have the means to recoat it. :)

xtremedrunk
May 27th, 2006, 11:05 PM
Kinda dangerous gambling on your eye health. Isn't there a reason there's been advisories to buy sunglasses with the proper UVA and UVB ratings??? The Essilor website rates glass as having very good scratch resistance but almost no UV protection. So I think glass does need to be coated for UV protection. The only plastic lenses that have UV built in would have to be polycarbonate lenses. EDIT: high index lenses apparantly have built in UV protection as well

If you guys did decide on going ahead with this try to find a UV indicator card. I know for sure they sell one at London Drugs but its overpriced. The card will change color in respose to UV light and is specifically for testing sunglasses effectiveness. You let sunlight through the lenses and put the card underneath the filtered light and the card tells you how much UV is getting through the lenses.

R3V
May 27th, 2006, 11:53 PM
Ordered my glasses with www.goggles4u.com. Unfortunately, I broke my glasses. Emailed them and they gave me 20% discount on my second glasses.

Nice customer service. They replied on most of my question promptly.

Found a coupon code too for additional 5% off : dv302

TheYellowDart
May 27th, 2006, 11:59 PM
Ordered my glasses with www.goggles4u.com. Unfortunately, I broke my glasses. Emailed them and they gave me 20% discount on my second glasses.

Nice customer service. They replied on most of my question promptly.

Found a coupon code too for additional 5% off : dv302

eek... how did u break them??? and how long did u had it for?

ElectricFuneral
May 28th, 2006, 12:20 AM
hmmm. goggles4u must read RFD! I received an (unsolicted, but appreciated) follow-up to their first reply shortly after posting. Seems that they do provide UV protection on their transition lenses. Otherwise, it's like I said - go for the clip-ons overtop plain, protected lenses. I woudn't trust any other strategy, such as preferred colours of tinting, depth of tint, etc, to try to get around this.


Dear Client,
Further to our last email. Please note that our transition lenses are UV
protected. Also note that if you get any lenses tinted it may not have UV
protection as tinting on coated lenses is not possible.

The only solution is to have transition lenses or to buy polarized clip-on.

Please feel free to contact us for further assistance.

Regards,

Sales and Support
www.goggles4u.com

Email : info@goggles4u.com
US Fax: 1-866-450-8782
UK Fax: 0870 622 0261

R3V
May 29th, 2006, 11:17 AM
Actually it's my fault, the glasses caught up on my lunch bag when I am removing it. It fell straight to the tile floor (Glasses first :( ). If it fell on it side I'm assuming it would survive the fall :)

I also ordered the glass instead of the plastic.

CheapA$$
May 29th, 2006, 06:39 PM
Hey thanks for the review site Jdi!

I ordered a pair from Goggles4u... love the fact you can use Paypal at checkout.
Now let's see how long it takes to get them!

jonnnny
May 30th, 2006, 07:56 AM
Ordered a pair from goggles4u.com, 25US$!! thanks op!!

sienna
May 30th, 2006, 08:43 AM
Order from goggles4u May 5 and still waiting >:(

Kosh
May 30th, 2006, 08:59 AM
Order from goggles4u May 5 and still waiting >:(
they take approx 3 week min so dont worry

HamsterGirl35
May 30th, 2006, 12:23 PM
Hi, I was wondering about RFDers who ordered from goggles4u.com,
did you just put the prescription as directed online or you emailed/faxed them the prescriptions?

Thanks

kiasu
May 30th, 2006, 12:43 PM
Ordered on May 1 and received on Monday.

No worry...they r bringing another new 400 frames soon according to their email

Al Kaseltzer
May 30th, 2006, 01:22 PM
For anyone looking for Sunglasses that do include UV protection, I got a response from Optical4Less saying they do include it. More expensive, but worth it.

If you're wondering why UV protection is so important for sunglasses, blocking visible light causes your pupils to open wider, which allows more harmful UV through than if you weren't wearing sunglasses at all.



Yes I can confirm this .
Most of the stores do not have UV protection on tinted lenses because it take quite a lot extra cost to do so .
For a quality company we do care about the eye safty of our customers . So all our prescription sunglasses have UV 400 protection without any additional charge .

TheYellowDart
May 30th, 2006, 02:06 PM
For anyone looking for Sunglasses that do include UV protection, I got a response from Optical4Less saying they do include it. More expensive, but worth it.

If you're wondering why UV protection is so important for sunglasses, blocking visible light causes your pupils to open wider, which allows more harmful UV through than if you weren't wearing sunglasses at all.

but if you use it just for driving... a tinted non UV coated glasses will do to...
cuz ur windshield blocks 85% of the UV ray!

StarStrike
May 30th, 2006, 03:11 PM
My glasses finally came in Today. I ordered transition lenses on May 15th and they arrived this morning.

coriolis
May 30th, 2006, 03:27 PM
Ordered em a few weeks back, it shipped last friday, :)

I didn't get an order confirmation from Goggles4u, is that normal?

CheapA$$
May 30th, 2006, 06:45 PM
posted by HamsterGirl35 : Hi, I was wondering about RFDers who ordered from goggles4u.com,
did you just put the prescription as directed online or you emailed/faxed them the prescriptions?

I used the online form to input my prescription info. Figured it might be better in order to avoid errors/communication problems.

frugal69
May 30th, 2006, 08:15 PM
My glasses finally came in Today. I ordered transition lenses on May 15th and they arrived this morning.

How much did you pay - and are you happy with the Transition lenses / Frames and assembly quality?

Inquiring minds want to know... :lol:

nacho113
May 30th, 2006, 09:02 PM
WOW! I ordered 2 more pairs from goggles4u on May 21/06 and one of the pairs arrived today May30/06 (direct from Pakistan in the funky cloth bag).
I ordered 1 pair from them back in January and they took just over 3 weeks to arrive (which is about what I had expected based on what everyone else was saying).

Thought I'd add a picture and say that I'm very impressed (for the second time) with the quality of there products. Fit and finish is nice, AR coating seems to work well and I've been able to add a little "excitement" to having to wear glasses.
http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10945.jpg

newbeetle
May 30th, 2006, 09:27 PM
I ordered on May 24. Hasn't been shipped yet

duster
May 30th, 2006, 10:21 PM
do they e-mail a shipping confirmation?

Battscrew
May 30th, 2006, 10:45 PM
Order May 14 received May 30 (Calgary)

So far quality and fit of lens to frame looks great - I have only had them for an hour so this is my initial review.

I need to get them adjusted for my face ie nose piece and behind the ear just like you would any other pair so a little bit of discomfort till I get that done.

Visual (single vision lens) - keep in mind that I went for a different design and size of frame - I went from an oval style to a rectangle style of frame. I am experiencing a little and I do mean little disorentation - this may be due to the fact that I did not include (did not realize) Pupil Distance. So once I get them properly adjusted I will report back.

http://goggles4u.com/images/10457.jpg

Spamate
May 30th, 2006, 11:39 PM
just wondering... do you all pay the usd by paypal or ur visa? they both have some really bad conversion rates don't they?

duster
May 31st, 2006, 12:32 AM
Paid by Visa.

24.69 USD @ 1.1522

Which is "ok" since the actual rate is ~1.10

Don't remember what the rate was at this time...maybe something like 1.12

newbeetle
May 31st, 2006, 09:46 AM
do they e-mail a shipping confirmation?
You can check through CCnow. Mine has just been shipped. :)

CheapA$$
May 31st, 2006, 05:39 PM
Ordered mine on May 29 -->

Shipped today already (May 31)

Pretty good!

irish80ca
Jun 2nd, 2006, 11:30 AM
I've read several pages of comments and reviews in this thread (can't bring myself to read all 37 pages before my post).

It seems like MOST people on here are buying from or asking about goggles4u.com

Any major reason for that? Are they just the best/cheapest deal?

I'm personally looking to buy a pair of sunglasses and want a sporty pair (which I see is "Coming Soon" to goggles4u.com) but like I've seen others mention, UV protection is a must.

Has anyone on here bought a sport pair from any of the mentioned internet companies and had a good experience with the product??????

duster
Jun 2nd, 2006, 12:41 PM
I've read several pages of comments and reviews in this thread (can't bring myself to read all 37 pages before my post).

It seems like MOST people on here are buying from or asking about goggles4u.com

Any major reason for that? Are they just the best/cheapest deal?

I'm personally looking to buy a pair of sunglasses and want a sporty pair (which I see is "Coming Soon" to goggles4u.com) but like I've seen others mention, UV protection is a must.

Has anyone on here bought a sport pair from any of the mentioned internet companies and had a good experience with the product??????

No...UV protection isn't a must have...

It's OBLIGATION on sunglasses.

Sunglasses without UV protection is like child car seat without harness or belt...It's just illusion of protection.

Sunglasses without UV protection is worst than nothing at all...Due to the tint, your pupils will open wide, more than "normal", to let more light in...So more dangerous ray will attack your eyes.

With nothing on your face, the UV are dangerous too but your eyes have natural protection reflex at least...

I don't understand why they are selling this kind of "lightglasses" since they do nothing about the dangerous parts of the sunlight...Maybe it's not "illegal" but it's very "immoral" IMO.

digdoug
Jun 2nd, 2006, 03:52 PM
I alos received my order from Goggles4u yesterday. I ordered May 9, and they shipped May 11. The one thing I did notice was that my new -4.00 prescription did seem a bit thicker than 4mm on the outer edges, but nothing I can do about that. I didn't actually measure them with a ruler. The glasses seem solidly constructed, but the arm length - which isn't specified on the ordering page - is around 135 (I think - the numbers rubbed off very quickly), so if you have a larger head, they may be on the small side in terms of reaching your ear, and hence may not be a good fit. It's slightly small on my head, but usable.
I suppose you could email them before buying to see what the arm length is, as that is a crucial measurement they are lacking on their site.

I got this style:
http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10754.jpg

that's actually the type I'm looking to get. what's the width of each eye piece (50?). can you take a pic of the side so I can see how thick the lenses are? what index did you choose?

I wonder if the 1.61 index will be passable for my -7 lenses.

pimpbob
Jun 2nd, 2006, 04:09 PM
I alos received my order from Goggles4u yesterday. I ordered May 9, and they shipped May 11. The one thing I did notice was that my new -4.00 prescription did seem a bit thicker than 4mm on the outer edges, but nothing I can do about that. I didn't actually measure them with a ruler. The glasses seem solidly constructed, but the arm length - which isn't specified on the ordering page - is around 135 (I think - the numbers rubbed off very quickly), so if you have a larger head, they may be on the small side in terms of reaching your ear, and hence may not be a good fit. It's slightly small on my head, but usable.
I suppose you could email them before buying to see what the arm length is, as that is a crucial measurement they are lacking on their site.

I got this style:
http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10754.jpg

I ordered and recieved these same ones... the arms are extendable... just tug on each side of the seam.

I thought these would be the perfect size for me, but I should have added a bit to the measurement as the part of the arm that connects through the glass blocks part of my vision.

dougi3000
Jun 2nd, 2006, 05:39 PM
You know what?
trying that PD measurement with a ruler compared to when glasses shop did it, it was totally different number.
I got a PD of 71 when they put that box thing on my face.

and when i used a ruler i measure about a 75. :O

so i dont know what is right. they might have measured me wrong, or the ruler method isnt a very good one.

brandnew
Jun 3rd, 2006, 11:49 AM
and it looks so great, better than what I got from Hakim. Hakim costed me more than CAD$500 each pair.
and also, confirmed from my insurance company, on-line order is also eligible.

thanks

soarlow
Jun 3rd, 2006, 12:37 PM
was looking at the selectspecs.com site, and am wondering if anyone knows if it is realistic to get designer frames (with prescription lenses) for such a low price? Sure, they say it is authentic, but I find it confusing that they can sell Versace frames with lenses for less than $200 CAD?? I'm sure the frame itself is "worth" (or sells for) more than that...

dmxlite
Jun 3rd, 2006, 01:31 PM
Maybe it's not realistic, but then again, for me the important things are it looks good and it's of good quality (especially the lens). If those are satisfied, I don't really care what brand the frame is, even if it is a knock off.

I think I'll be ordering a pair of tinted ones for my sunglasses. I used to have clip ons, but they add a lot of weight to the glasses I have already (relative to what I feel).

systemerror007
Jun 3rd, 2006, 02:23 PM
which of these sites offers DESIGNER frames that is a realiable site to order off? I am on goggles4u and see frames I like but was wondering if there was a way to only search for designer frames....onthe first page with the reveiw forum, I noticed that the authoer got LAUGERFEILD frames...is that the designer or just some generic knock off?

cheers.

starscreamy411
Jun 3rd, 2006, 08:55 PM
I HAVE a high perscription of +6.50 and it makes my eyes' all bubbles'ish. I was hoping you guyz could help me out to find a place to get the lenses to make my eyes look smaller, more of the normal. I hate having the coke bottles, and being called bubbles!!!!!!!!!!

help me out!!!!!!!!! :twisted:

xtracrispy123
Jun 3rd, 2006, 09:23 PM
6.5 isn't that bad.............

if you go to asian places, they'll be like "psssh we do those all the time". Its only people from western stores that convince you its bad :P

I have -6.0, and look fine with 1.67 index aspheric lenses. If you're really sensitive about it, get some 1.8 index glass lenses or something, but in the end..... its nothing that couldn't be solved.

Good luck bubbles!

PS
I dunno why you guys are all buying glasses from pakistan that come looking like terrorist bombs...... optical4less offers a better lens selection, arguably better styling, and in my experience, great quality.

To each his own!

JWL
Jun 4th, 2006, 03:09 PM
Got a pair of prescription glasses with clip-ons as a spare pair for a trip I'm going on. Looking forward to the cloth package!

Mr. Bean
Jun 4th, 2006, 08:40 PM
No...UV protection isn't a must have...

It's OBLIGATION on sunglasses.

Sunglasses without UV protection is like child car seat without harness or belt...It's just illusion of protection.

Sunglasses without UV protection is worst than nothing at all...Due to the tint, your pupils will open wide, more than "normal", to let more light in...So more dangerous ray will attack your eyes.

With nothing on your face, the UV are dangerous too but your eyes have natural protection reflex at least...

I don't understand why they are selling this kind of "lightglasses" since they do nothing about the dangerous parts of the sunlight...Maybe it's not "illegal" but it's very "immoral" IMO.

I agree that UV protection is a MUST HAVE!

I've read here that Goggles4U said that tinted glasses cannot have a UV coating. What about transition lenses? Those can have UV coatings. How long before they get dark in the sun? When they get to their darkest level are they dark enough to use as sunglasses?

nacho113
Jun 4th, 2006, 09:53 PM
I agree that UV protection is a MUST HAVE!

I've read here that Goggles4U said that tinted glasses cannot have a UV coating. What about transition lenses? Those can have UV coatings. How long before they get dark in the sun? When they get to their darkest level are they dark enough to use as sunglasses?

I have a pair from goggles4u with the glass transition grey lenses. They start to change right away, but it takes probably 30 seconds to get to full darkness and I would estimate that to be aprox 70% grey tint. So not the darkest , but I find it to be a very comfortable level of tint. The downside is that if you get in your vehicle they lighten up right away (again about 30 seconds), as the windshield blocks most of the UV light the makes them change. They also seem to have a very slight grey tint to them even when they are out of sunlight altogether, maybe 5-10%

Mr. Bean
Jun 4th, 2006, 10:36 PM
Thanks for the feedback nacho113.

I guess this means that for those of us who want prescription sunglasses and want UV protection we can choose to go for a transition lens instead.

Gellar
Jun 4th, 2006, 10:48 PM
very nice thread, and great website op has up!

i do wish the goggles4u site had a better search, i hate this "more frames" button! not even a page number

trolldealhunter
Jun 4th, 2006, 11:35 PM
WOW! I ordered 2 more pairs from goggles4u on May 21/06 and one of the pairs arrived today May30/06 (direct from Pakistan in the funky cloth bag).
I ordered 1 pair from them back in January and they took just over 3 weeks to arrive (which is about what I had expected based on what everyone else was saying).

Thought I'd add a picture and say that I'm very impressed (for the second time) with the quality of there products. Fit and finish is nice, AR coating seems to work well and I've been able to add a little "excitement" to having to wear glasses.
http://www.goggles4u.com/images/10945.jpg


hey bud, those glasses are dead sexy!!! Which pair are those? Those would look sweet in sunglasses :D

ps: guys i wanna make some sunglasses but they actually have the percent TINT and the color etc..not to sure about what to go about doing there :(

nacho113
Jun 5th, 2006, 12:21 AM
very nice thread, and great website op has up!

i do wish the goggles4u site had a better search, i hate this "more frames" button! not even a page number
Actually, if you use the "search by size" link and enter something near the size of your original glasses, it really narrows down your search. Although I wish you could search by size in a particular catagory, say half-rim or rimless.

nacho113
Jun 5th, 2006, 12:23 AM
hey bud, those glasses are dead sexy!!! Which pair are those? Those would look sweet in sunglasses :D

ps: guys i wanna make some sunglasses but they actually have the percent TINT and the color etc..not to sure about what to go about doing there :(
Here's the link to those frames, but they are sold out already.
http://www.goggles4u.com/detail.asp?PID=10945

TheYellowDart
Jun 5th, 2006, 01:35 AM
i think they only have 1 frame for each style lol

Gellar
Jun 5th, 2006, 02:04 AM
Here's the link to those frames, but they are sold out already.
http://www.goggles4u.com/detail.asp?PID=10945
i think its discontinued

"OUT OF STOCK (DISCONTINUED)"

Actually, if you use the "search by size" link and enter something near the size of your original glasses, it really narrows down your search. Although I wish you could search by size in a particular catagory, say half-rim or rimless.
still cant even see how many pages there are, and like you said, cant search by category either

Gellar
Jun 5th, 2006, 12:22 PM
just a quick question

do guys believe that glass lenses are alright? I want some transitions, and glass lenses are a lot cheaper, if they turn out to not be a big deal i might go for it

duster
Jun 5th, 2006, 01:40 PM
just a quick question

do guys believe that glass lenses are alright? I want some transitions, and glass lenses are a lot cheaper, if they turn out to not be a big deal i might go for it

If you have a high Rx, they will be heavy...But in other side, I don't know what is the index of their glass lenses...

Gellar
Jun 5th, 2006, 01:41 PM
my Rx is only -2.25, no biggie

i notice goggles4u doesnt have anti radiation coating, kinda sux

is the anti radiation coating for an extra $27 worth it from optics4less?

Battscrew
Jun 5th, 2006, 10:56 PM
my Rx is only -2.25, no biggie

i notice goggles4u doesnt have anti radiation coating, kinda sux

is the anti radiation coating for an extra $27 worth it from optics4less?

Only if you live near the Pickering Nuclear plant

Galad
Jun 5th, 2006, 11:05 PM
just a quick question

do guys believe that glass lenses are alright? I want some transitions, and glass lenses are a lot cheaper, if they turn out to not be a big deal i might go for it

I bought some glass transition lenses from goggles4u since they were way cheaper than the plastic ones.

They're pretty good, but I definitely notice they're heavier than my other plastic lenses.

Gellar
Jun 5th, 2006, 11:40 PM
Only if you live near the Pickering Nuclear plant
i always thought it was good for computer users

coriolis
Jun 6th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Received mines today from Goggles4u , not bad, though the lens are quite thick, though they are transitional, not sure if that makes any difference. Out of the case, they were a bit tilted, one side was raised a bit, while the other was fine if I put them on a flat surface.

I ordered it on the 19th of May, not bad. I may get another pair...15% off additional orders :)

TheYellowDart
Jun 6th, 2006, 07:12 PM
i got my glasses from goggle4u as well.

ordered @ may 24
shipped @ may 29
recieved@ june 6

craftmanship are not bad!! better than what i had in mind!
the prescription is arlite i guess?! cuz this one is a bit more higher than my old one... so i do weird a lil bit weird...

edit: o yea.. the glasses case... it said Dolce & Gabbana on it muhahaha!!!

coriolis
Jun 6th, 2006, 09:26 PM
My case had a huge Made in China sticker on it, lmao!

I had some PMs about the glasses and all, I'll get a few up soon.

Another thing, When I ordered it, it said the frame was rimless and brown, mines is rimless, it turned out to be rimless and gold. The gold is a tad....perky, and I don't really like the look of it. I'm gonna contact customer service, and see what happens.

TheYellowDart
Jun 6th, 2006, 10:05 PM
My case had a huge Made in China sticker on it, lmao!

I had some PMs about the glasses and all, I'll get a few up soon.

Another thing, When I ordered it, it said the frame was rimless and brown, mines is rimless, it turned out to be rimless and gold. The gold is a tad....perky, and I don't really like the look of it. I'm gonna contact customer service, and see what happens.

PMs? lol... :cheesygri

puff_daddy_58_99
Jun 6th, 2006, 10:10 PM
flame me all you want for not reading through 40 pages in the thread, but I was wondering if anyone has bought prescription sunglasses from any of these places online? One site would do free tinting on any glasses, meaning any could become a pair of sunglasses, but I didn't know what level of tint to use. Suggestions are greatly appreciated!

coriolis
Jun 6th, 2006, 10:14 PM
PMs? lol... :cheesygri

Keh, Private Messages about the eyeglasses :lol:

I bought one, so far, so good, just a few things, pretty much the thickness, it being 1/2 a cm at thickest, and 1/3 of a cm at thinnest. Then the glasses were a tad crooked when it's on is another thing.

Not sure if tinting is free, just customize the eyeglasses at one of the site, put tint on, and check the checkout price.

sienna
Jun 6th, 2006, 11:01 PM
Ordered on May 5 and CCNow canceled the order on June 6.

Waiting for a month without a single email from goggle4u, very bad service :mad:


“Cancellation: Order 1xx-xx-xxxx

CCNow has canceled order number 1xx-xx-xxxx,
which was previously sent to you.
The customer's paypal account was issued a refund.

Cancellation Reason: Awaiting shipment period expired.

Please do not ship order number 1xx-xx-xxxx.

Regards,

- CCNow Client Services”

duster
Jun 7th, 2006, 09:32 AM
flame me all you want for not reading through 40 pages in the thread, but I was wondering if anyone has bought prescription sunglasses from any of these places online? One site would do free tinting on any glasses, meaning any could become a pair of sunglasses, but I didn't know what level of tint to use. Suggestions are greatly appreciated!

1. Lot of us already ordered, ~90% at Goggles4u due to the price. Not too risky for a first attempt...

2. If your talking about the free tinting at Goggles4u, FORGET IT!!! Since they do not apply any kind of UV protection on their tinted glasses, it's very dangerous. Their regular glasses have this protection. I don't know what they are thinking but no UV protection on tinted glasses is damn dangerous 'cause the tint "bypass" the natural protection of eyes, just illusion due to the darkness, pupil open wide...and then, a full amount of UV can go through your eyes... :|

EDIT: Typo

digdoug
Jun 7th, 2006, 10:19 AM
regarding goggles4u, if you order a transition (grey) pair, can you also put a tint on it? reason being I'd rather not have grey, but want blue. what'll happen if I do both?

duster
Jun 7th, 2006, 01:35 PM
regarding goggles4u, if you order a transition (grey) pair, can you also put a tint on it? reason being I'd rather not have grey, but want blue. what'll happen if I do both?

Why the hell would you want that?! :confused: :confused: :confused:

And I don't think it's possible...really

coriolis
Jun 7th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Doubt it's possible. As for pics, here are some:


http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/9396/dsc000513tq.th.jpg (http://img308.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000513tq.jpg)

http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7277/dsc000523sa.th.jpg (http://img308.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000523sa.jpg)

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/1356/dsc000546eu.th.jpg (http://img321.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000546eu.jpg)

muffin
Jun 7th, 2006, 02:20 PM
I was wondering how much is your prescription? cuz i have a pretty high prescription and i wanna know approx. how thick the lense may be.

coriolis
Jun 7th, 2006, 04:10 PM
-4.50 and -5.00, with transition grey glasses

Coolme
Jun 7th, 2006, 04:49 PM
i always thought it was good for computer users

What it's supposed to do is to make your eyes less tired. Which is supposed to help your vision. (decrease the growth rate of your prescription) BTW, if you want to research more about them, they're also called EMI coating.

TheYellowDart
Jun 7th, 2006, 10:14 PM
Doubt it's possible. As for pics, here are some:


http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/9396/dsc000513tq.th.jpg (http://img308.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000513tq.jpg)

http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7277/dsc000523sa.th.jpg (http://img308.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000523sa.jpg)

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/1356/dsc000546eu.th.jpg (http://img321.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000546eu.jpg)

their glasses look so nices lol

i stopped wearing my... my eyes hurtz like hell when wearing them...
dunno if they even gimme the correct prescription...

coriolis, how are the compare to your old glasses? i found my kinda hard to focus and stuffs... it felt so weird...

Gellar
Jun 7th, 2006, 10:30 PM
-4.50 and -5.00, with transition grey glasses
lol your glasses definitely look gold, not brown, pretty bad mistake on their part

nice glasses though, thanks for the input

What it's supposed to do is to make your eyes less tired. Which is supposed to help your vision. (decrease the growth rate of your prescription) BTW, if you want to research more about them, they're also called EMI coating.
ah cool! thanks! i couldnt find much info on it

edit: and i can still barely find anything! even wiki has nothing

nacho113
Jun 7th, 2006, 10:50 PM
regarding goggles4u, if you order a transition (grey) pair, can you also put a tint on it? reason being I'd rather not have grey, but want blue. what'll happen if I do both?
I tried to order a pair that way because the place I work has like billions of watts of flourescent lighting. I wanted a base 20% tint, just to take the edge off and then the transition lenses to go darker outside. I got an email back the day after I ordered them that they could do the tint OR the transition, but not both. I picked the transition and am quite happy as they seem to have a slight tint anyway (maybe 10-15%) and darken down to 70-80% outside in the sunlight. I got the transition grey in a blue semi-rimless frame and they have the multicoating that they include for free.

TheYellowDart
Jun 7th, 2006, 11:07 PM
here's my pic

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/5144/imgp00017ag.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imgp00017ag.jpg)http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7529/imgp00042km.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imgp00042km.jpg)http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/549/imgp00066lq.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imgp00066lq.jpg)

as i say... the glasses gives me a headache... and my eyes hurtz....
i think i'll go check it out with an optican

Gellar
Jun 7th, 2006, 11:24 PM
here's my pic

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/5144/imgp00017ag.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imgp00017ag.jpg)http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7529/imgp00042km.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imgp00042km.jpg)http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/549/imgp00066lq.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imgp00066lq.jpg)

as i say... the glasses gives me a headache... and my eyes hurtz....
i think i'll go check it out with an optican
nice glasses :)

btw. just ordered a pair from zenni, mainly because of the anti radiation coating and they come with the magnetic sunlens! came to $43 with shipping, clearly costing more than goggles4u, but i hope they're a better quality

p.s. i read about peoples distortion problems, fortunately my perscription is only -2.25, so i hope mine are ok! (so many of you are totally blind! lol)

coriolis
Jun 7th, 2006, 11:28 PM
their glasses look so nices lol

i stopped wearing my... my eyes hurtz like hell when wearing them...
dunno if they even gimme the correct prescription...

coriolis, how are the compare to your old glasses? i found my kinda hard to focus and stuffs... it felt so weird...

At first, I wasn't sure if they did the correct prescription, but after using it for a while, I got used to it. I really hink I should check somewhere to check the prescription.

As for my old ones, I like this one better, if it was only less thicker, and if they were more secure. If I bob my head up and down, I wouldn't be surprised if it fell off.

nacho113
Jun 7th, 2006, 11:50 PM
At first, I wasn't sure if they did the correct prescription, but after using it for a while, I got used to it. I really hink I should check somewhere to check the prescription.

As for my old ones, I like this one better, if it was only less thicker, and if they were more secure. If I bob my head up and down, I wouldn't be surprised if it fell off.
You should take them in and have that prescription checked, just to be sure. No sense wrecking your eyesight to save a few bucks. I have 3 pairs from goggles4u and a pair progressive lenses from zenni and all the prescriptions checkout OK at my local optical store. They fitted a couple of the pairs for me and that seemed to make a world of difference because they can fit the ear and nose pieces properly and center your pupils properly in the frames so that your eyes are looking through the optical center of the lenses (that is why it is so important to have an accurate Pupil Distance measurement). They said they would have to charge me sa small fee to do the adjustments, but they never did.

Definately get them checked out to be sure of the prescription though.

coriolis
Jun 8th, 2006, 12:23 AM
I'll do that....I have to drive my sis to get her eye checked, I assume they can also check it for me?

TheYellowDart
Jun 8th, 2006, 12:35 AM
You should take them in and have that prescription checked, just to be sure. No sense wrecking your eyesight to save a few bucks. I have 3 pairs from goggles4u and a pair progressive lenses from zenni and all the prescriptions checkout OK at my local optical store. They fitted a couple of the pairs for me and that seemed to make a world of difference because they can fit the ear and nose pieces properly and center your pupils properly in the frames so that your eyes are looking through the optical center of the lenses (that is why it is so important to have an accurate Pupil Distance measurement). They said they would have to charge me sa small fee to do the adjustments, but they never did.

Definately get them checked out to be sure of the prescription though.

yea.. i agree... make sure it's perfect
dun let the $30 ruin your eye sight!!!
but ya... need to find a friendly store!
btw... what did u say to them? did you say u brought it online and want them to help fit it? or did u make up a pretty story? lol

M@rk
Jun 8th, 2006, 12:36 AM
I'll do that....I have to drive my sis to get her eye checked, I assume they can also check it for me?

If you're already getting an eye check, then it's possible, but most opticians will not do it for you unless they're reeeallly nice people.

Gellar
Jun 8th, 2006, 01:20 AM
i wish eye checks were still free

newbeetle
Jun 8th, 2006, 09:06 AM
Just got mine today(June 8), ordered on May24.
The glasses is really nice. I bought one with 60% tint. Since I am using it only for driving, probably lack of UV protection will be fine :confused:
The arm is a bit too long. I am wondering if i can adjust that somewhere???
Other than that, I love the glasses.
Since my prescription is very light,-1.25, I don't have the distortion feeling.

nacho113
Jun 8th, 2006, 09:44 AM
yea.. i agree... make sure it's perfect
dun let the $30 ruin your eye sight!!!
but ya... need to find a friendly store!
btw... what did u say to them? did you say u brought it online and want them to help fit it? or did u make up a pretty story? lol
I told them that I had bought them online and wanted to verify them against my prescription. (I went to Wal-mart optical as this is where I had gotten my eyes checked and got the prescription and the PD done) They seemed quite eager to check them (I think they were hoping the glasses would have been wrong and they could say "I told you so"). They said the prescription was right on the money and were quite impressed with the quality of the frames and lenses. They wanted to know how much I paid and seemed quite amazed at the prices. They have some pretty good prices on there glasses, I think they start at $64 , but all coatings are extra, so you very quickly end up over $100 and double that if you want transition lenses. (still cheaper than most local places, but hard to beat $30 online)

TheYellowDart
Jun 8th, 2006, 04:35 PM
hm... i should do that sometimes...
but dunno where i can find a friendly place HAHA XD

dougi3000
Jun 8th, 2006, 04:36 PM
zenni optical
ordered may 22
shipped june 1
arrived june 8
It feels a little wierd, but my eyes probably need to adjust.
I got 1.67index for my -5.75 eyes. These are very thin.
The clip ons are the ugliest ones I have seen yet. There is a big black retangular box on the bridge when you clip them on. good thing zenni only charges $2 for clipons.

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/7122/10005504xj.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4452/10005512vj.jpg
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/6416/10005520kg1.jpg
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8876/10005532bu.jpg

TheYellowDart
Jun 8th, 2006, 08:11 PM
hahah
those are like the first generation clip on!!
i think walmart still carry them HAHA XD

coriolis
Jun 8th, 2006, 08:23 PM
I told them that I had bought them online and wanted to verify them against my prescription. (I went to Wal-mart optical as this is where I had gotten my eyes checked and got the prescription and the PD done) They seemed quite eager to check them (I think they were hoping the glasses would have been wrong and they could say "I told you so"). They said the prescription was right on the money and were quite impressed with the quality of the frames and lenses. They wanted to know how much I paid and seemed quite amazed at the prices. They have some pretty good prices on there glasses, I think they start at $64 , but all coatings are extra, so you very quickly end up over $100 and double that if you want transition lenses. (still cheaper than most local places, but hard to beat $30 online)

Yea, the thing is that I want a friendly place, I don't mind if they charge me. But I don't one a place where they just either ignore you since you aren't a customer, or roll their eyes at you, etc.

newbeetle
Jun 8th, 2006, 08:24 PM
For goggles4u.com, you get 15% off for the repeat order. But where can I find the discount code???

dougi3000
Jun 8th, 2006, 08:25 PM
oh wait, i found out these 80's style clip ons also flip up!
how retro is that?

coriolis
Jun 8th, 2006, 08:26 PM
From their front page of their site:


Are you a repeat customer?

Get 15% off by proving this! Just place a new order for eyeglasses with us and send an email to the address below to claim your discount. Your email, name on your credit card and shipping information must all be same as your previous order to claim your discount. Write "Repeat Customer Discount" in the subject line for instant processing of your discount. Your Card will be only charged with discounted amount.

R3V
Jun 8th, 2006, 08:54 PM
For goggles4u.com, you get 15% off for the repeat order. But where can I find the discount code???


Also use coupon code dv302 for additional 5% off.

nacho113
Jun 8th, 2006, 09:54 PM
Also use coupon code dv302 for additional 5% off.
Actually, if you use the 5% code when you order and apply for the repeat customer 15% discount, they only credit you another 10% for a total of 15%. I think they figured out that there was a double discount going on.

Gellar
Jun 8th, 2006, 11:17 PM
oh wait, i found out these 80's style clip ons also flip up!
how retro is that?
haha yea it was pretty obvious they were crap by their description, thats why i bought one of their glasses that came with a magnetic sunlens

hankscorpio
Jun 9th, 2006, 03:31 PM
Got mine today from Goggle4u. Not bad considering the price. I got glass material grey transitions. My prescription is 4.75 and 5.5, and they really aren't any thicker than my hi-indexes from Hakim that I paid over $200 for. Vision seems to be ok, just the usual weirdness that you feel when you get new glasses. The lenses weren't cut the greatest. It's not a problem looking through them, but you can see gaps between the frame and the lens when you take them off and look. Frames are really good quality, even though I'm regretting my choice (http://www.goggles4u.com/detail.asp?PID=10058). The frames say "Look" on the arm, and the black case they came in says "too much". They came with extra nose pads, which I'll be putting on because the current ones are too small and hard, and a cleaning clothe. So far, I'm pretty pleased, considering they only cost $30. Hopefully the sun comes out soon, so I can test the transitions.

lamster00
Jun 9th, 2006, 04:29 PM
Just got my semi-rimless pair for goggle4u.

They were BAD. The lens was not cut nicely, the frame is crooked and one arm (hinge) is warped.

very unhappy with purchase eventhough it was $28

I ordered another pair from Optical4less so we'll see what happens.

ainsane
Jun 9th, 2006, 07:19 PM
God damn it, goggles4u sent me the wrong glasses! Why do I have to always have the bad luck!

The frames are different and the prescription isnt even CLOSE to mine.

edit: In the off chance someone else on here got the wrong ones and ordered these...
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/141/09060619343is.jpg

let me know! (Sorry for crappy cell phone pic). :lol:

TheYellowDart
Jun 9th, 2006, 10:32 PM
God damn it, goggles4u sent me the wrong glasses! Why do I have to always have the bad luck!

The frames are different and the prescription isnt even CLOSE to mine.

edit: In the off chance someone else on here got the wrong ones and ordered these..

let me know! (Sorry for crappy cell phone pic). :lol:

haha.. they messed up my order too...
i think they got so many order in the past few weeks (rfd effect) that they can't handle it.

CheapA$$
Jun 10th, 2006, 11:21 AM
I got the glasses I ordered from goggles4u... took them about 10 days.

Sorry to hear about the mixup for some of you, but mine are surprisingly good!

Frames are not bad (for a backup pair), and the prescrition is spot-on.

I can't believe I actually paid $350 for my normal pair at Lenscrafters!!! :eek:

ainsane
Jun 10th, 2006, 11:24 AM
:arrowu: best username on RFD :arrowu:

:lol:

CheapA$$
Jun 10th, 2006, 11:36 AM
lol...

I figured: if I hang out here, who am I kidding?

:D

Gellar
Jun 10th, 2006, 01:30 PM
is anybody using the glasses purchased from these online stores as a main pair?

hankscorpio
Jun 10th, 2006, 04:17 PM
I think I'm going to use mine as the main pair. The ones I got from Hakim are all scratched up, and frankly, these are just as good as those. Also, all the paint on my Hakim pair is chipping off, and I'm worried about getting a chunk in the eye. Already found a piece on my eyelid once.

the watcher
Jun 10th, 2006, 04:25 PM
question. on my prescription it says PD: 33 / 315.
but on the website it starts at 51 so do i just multiply it by 2 to get 66?


Also if i got my prescription for glasses, is it the same power for contact lenses?

rundmc2005
Jun 10th, 2006, 04:36 PM
Yeah the PD was different for me for each eye, but it only lets you input one of them.

Ordered mine on June 4th.. shipped on the 9th.. so pretty quick. Just hope I'm not gonna encounter the same problems as the last few posters here..

Really can't go wrong for $30.

hankscorpio
Jun 10th, 2006, 04:43 PM
question. on my prescription it says PD: 33 / 315.
but on the website it starts at 51 so do i just multiply it by 2 to get 66?


Also if i got my prescription for glasses, is it the same power for contact lenses?
I believe you add them, to get 64.5.

Gellar
Jun 10th, 2006, 04:44 PM
I dont get how your PD can be different for each eye, since its the distance from one pupil to the other ...

the watcher
Jun 10th, 2006, 04:46 PM
I believe you add them, to get 64.5.

are u certain?

hankscorpio
Jun 10th, 2006, 04:47 PM
are u certain?
Mine were different too, and when I contacted Goggles4u they told me the distance was the sum of both.

the watcher
Jun 10th, 2006, 04:49 PM
Mine were different too, and when I contacted Goggles4u they told me the distance was the sum of both.


cool thx man

Moot
Jun 12th, 2006, 08:22 PM
Just about to order a pair of glasses from goggles4u. One question:

Are those transitional lenses worth it? They seem like a great idea but how well do they work? Anyone wish to comment?

Thanks.

Kosh
Jun 12th, 2006, 08:33 PM
Just about to order a pair of glasses from goggles4u. One question:

Are those transitional lenses worth it? They seem like a great idea but how well do they work? Anyone wish to comment?

Thanks.

well they do work but they dont go as dark as regular sunglasses (jmo). but then again i dont wear sunglasses hence me getting transitions

coriolis
Jun 12th, 2006, 08:36 PM
They work well, takes about 1 minute to darken, but like 5-10 mins to go back :p

Moot
Jun 12th, 2006, 08:46 PM
Thanks guys. I don't wear sunglasses because I need prescription glasses while driving, so I figured this would be a nice touch.

coriolis
Jun 12th, 2006, 08:46 PM
Though, as Kosh mentioned, its not too dark, its.....60-70% dark.

Al Kaseltzer
Jun 12th, 2006, 10:38 PM
Thanks guys. I don't wear sunglasses because I need prescription glasses while driving, so I figured this would be a nice touch.

Transition lens won't work in a car. They're activated by UV light, which car windows block.

coriolis
Jun 12th, 2006, 10:42 PM
Hmmm, I actually noticed that as well, but I didn't really remember :p

It works to a certain degree, but only limited amounf of tinting. If you have an open window or car roof :-0

JWL
Jun 13th, 2006, 08:15 AM
My order just changed to "shipped". How long has shipping taken in other people's experience?

Martin Stuard
Jun 13th, 2006, 11:21 AM
I bought a $350 Panasonic car deck. It's the most impressive thing I've ever put in my car.

..then just last month I caught a glimpse of the box lying in the basement, and saw that it was proudly "Made in China".

On a similar note -- I got a pair of glasses that were made in Italy. I had to return them because I realized they were the ugliest things ever.

My point is, don't generalize about the supposed poor quality of Chinese products.

I agree with you, "Made in Italy" is not the best, "Made in China" has good quality too.

dougi3000
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:29 PM
i got my prescription from goggles4u. Pakistani mail. :)
These frames are cool, but since they are tinted, I cannot wear them outside. HAHA. Also the prescription seems a bit too light. I wonder how much it will cost to fit proper tinted lenses into these frames. It says "Design Italy" on the inside of the frame. :p

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1575/10005542mw.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1038/10005552ag.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7160/10005570kv.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2176/10005581vh.jpg

hyperion
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:50 PM
Got a pair of frameless perscription glasses from Zenni. I ordered them on May 31st and got them June 12. I am very satisfied with the purchase.

TheYellowDart
Jun 13th, 2006, 12:57 PM
i got my prescription from goggles4u. Pakistani mail. :)
These frames are cool, but since they are tinted, I cannot wear them outside. HAHA. Also the prescription seems a bit too light. I wonder how much it will cost to fit proper tinted lenses into these frames. It says "Design Italy" on the inside of the frame. :p


hahaa... nice!! i see you got the D&G case too lol

Gellar
Jun 13th, 2006, 04:04 PM
hahaa... nice!! i see you got the D&G case too lol
his glasses look like oakleys! not bad at all

i ordered from zenni june 7th, still waiting!

neo1973
Jun 13th, 2006, 05:20 PM
i got my prescription from goggles4u. Pakistani mail. :)
These frames are cool, but since they are tinted, I cannot wear them outside. HAHA. Also the prescription seems a bit too light. I wonder how much it will cost to fit proper tinted lenses into these frames. It says "Design Italy" on the inside of the frame. :p

Lookin' good.

rfdmember
Jun 13th, 2006, 05:26 PM
how long does shipping take for goggles4u

dougi3000
Jun 13th, 2006, 05:46 PM
i ordered from goggles4u on May 22 2006, i got them yesterday June 12 2006. Sooooo... approx 3 weeks.

oh yeah, one more thing about the glasses from goggles4u, is that they don't shape it very well. There are some small gaps in the lens and the frame, but it is unnoticable, and the arms were unevenly bent, so you have to bend them to shape.

Overall, Zenni seems to have higher quality specs than goggles4u, but goggles4u has more cheap frames than zenni. For everyday glasses, i would probably go for zenni, because of the quality and coating. But the frames from goggles are more stylish, and it may just be worth the $30 for just the frames with no prescription lenses, and get a nicely coated accurate prescription installed in it. :P

edit: my zenni glasses costs about $80, while the goggles4u costs about $30

gacomeau1
Jun 13th, 2006, 06:22 PM
i got my prescription from goggles4u. Pakistani mail. :)
These frames are cool, but since they are tinted, I cannot wear them outside. HAHA. Also the prescription seems a bit too light. I wonder how much it will cost to fit proper tinted lenses into these frames. It says "Design Italy" on the inside of the frame. :p

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1575/10005542mw.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1038/10005552ag.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7160/10005570kv.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2176/10005581vh.jpg

I like 'em, very nice. What model # are they?

duster
Jun 14th, 2006, 01:25 AM
I like 'em, very nice. What model # are they?


Discountinued "Oakley like" frame... :mad:

I was waiting for my 1st rimless pair to come before ordering a second like this (but half-rim)...but too late... :(

Damn, I'm so unlucky these days! :|

Athios
Jun 14th, 2006, 12:18 PM
i got my prescription from goggles4u. Pakistani mail. :)
These frames are cool, but since they are tinted, I cannot wear them outside. HAHA. Also the prescription seems a bit too light. I wonder how much it will cost to fit proper tinted lenses into these frames. It says "Design Italy" on the inside of the frame. :p
Heya, just wondering, how do those glasses fit? Are they comfortable and sit snugly?

Also, what % tint is that? Do you think it's enough?

the watcher
Jun 14th, 2006, 12:42 PM
mines got shipped today.
good luck to me :lol:

dougi3000
Jun 14th, 2006, 01:38 PM
Heya, just wondering, how do those glasses fit? Are they comfortable and sit snugly?

Also, what % tint is that? Do you think it's enough?

they fit ok, you have to kinda bend it yourself because they are bent weird. also the hinges are not spring loaded so that is a bit more bending for you.
that is 80% black tint, it is too light.

I would go for 100% brown or black tint. There is no contrast using black tint, so things get hard to see in the shade. Not like you can wear these outside since there is no UV protection!!!!!!! I can wear them in the car. :/

andyp
Jun 14th, 2006, 02:31 PM
Not like you can wear these outside since there is no UV protection!!!!!!! I can wear them in the car. :/


I still can't believe it. I've been waiting for someone to post saying that it's not true. Seems incredible that they would sell glasses this way.

Besides, it's works against their buisness...blind people don't need prescription glasses!

Metablob
Jun 14th, 2006, 03:26 PM
You do realize that any plastic lens does filter 98% of UV without any special coatings. Those 2$ cheap sunglasses are just as effective at protecting yopur eyes as $200 raybans.

dougi3000
Jun 14th, 2006, 03:41 PM
You do realize that any plastic lens does filter 98% of UV without any special coatings. Those 2$ cheap sunglasses are just as effective at protecting yopur eyes as $200 raybans.

Well I havent seen any tests done to see if it is true one way or the other. So I will take the side of precaution.
:)

If it already filters out UV, why do they sell UV coating? To make an extra buck? :P

Metablob
Jun 14th, 2006, 03:42 PM
Well I havent seen any tests done to see if it is true one way or the other. So I will take the side of precaution.
:)

If it already filters out UV, why do they sell UV coating? To make an extra buck? :P


How about this:
http://www.nbc11.com/money/9246487/detail.html

The most significant aspect of UV protection is how much light gets around the frame/lens. Typical sunglass usage allows about 20% of the light to reach your eye unless the frame is unusually flush to the face.

Bottom line: the lens in your sunglasses do not have a significant impact to the ammount of UV your eyes receive. So stop paying for hype.

newbeetle
Jun 14th, 2006, 05:11 PM
I had mined checked in the local optical store. The prescription is very accurate. The PD is a bit wider than it should be. But they said it is within tolerance

dougi3000
Jun 15th, 2006, 02:06 AM
How about this:
http://www.nbc11.com/money/9246487/detail.html

The most significant aspect of UV protection is how much light gets around the frame/lens. Typical sunglass usage allows about 20% of the light to reach your eye unless the frame is unusually flush to the face.

Bottom line: the lens in your sunglasses do not have a significant impact to the ammount of UV your eyes receive. So stop paying for hype.

according to that article, it just says, sunglasses that say "xx% UV protection" will protect you from UV rays no matter how cheap they are. BUT it also says lenses that do not say it has UV ray protection, may not protect you.
"Experts also recommend buying sunglasses with labels saying they block both UV-A and UV-B rays. They warn that polarized lenses prevent glare but not necessarily UV penetration, and tinted lenses might not block UV rays either."

gordholio
Jun 15th, 2006, 02:08 AM
Who is involved in the manufacture and mailing of these cut-rate glasses?
I wonder if there is child labour because I read on the BBC website that child labour is a big problem in India (if that's where they're coming from).

Update: I guess nobody cares, as long as their shampoo is not tested on precious rabbits.

JWL
Jun 15th, 2006, 08:53 AM
How about this:
http://www.nbc11.com/money/9246487/detail.html

The most significant aspect of UV protection is how much light gets around the frame/lens. Typical sunglass usage allows about 20% of the light to reach your eye unless the frame is unusually flush to the face.

Bottom line: the lens in your sunglasses do not have a significant impact to the ammount of UV your eyes receive. So stop paying for hype.

That's not what the article says at all. It says UV protection is very important but that you can often get it on inexpensive sunglasses, just make sure you get it.

There's no mention of the 20% statistic you cite, but even if it is correct, 80% protection is a lot better than 0%.

UV protection is not hype.

Metablob
Jun 15th, 2006, 10:06 AM
That's not what the article says at all. It says UV protection is very important but that you can often get it on inexpensive sunglasses, just make sure you get it.

There's no mention of the 20% statistic you cite, but even if it is correct, 80% protection is a lot better than 0%.

UV protection is not hype.

Yes the article I quoted was to back up my assertion that virtually any plastic lens will give you equivalent coverage. Further if you do any research, you will find that how you wear your glasses will be the largest factor in how much UV gets into your eye.

Uv protection is serious business, however UV protection claims by any manufacturer that they offer superior protection is worthless.

Educate yourself before you fall for the hype

Metablob
Jun 15th, 2006, 10:10 AM
according to that article, it just says, sunglasses that say "xx% UV protection" will protect you from UV rays no matter how cheap they are. BUT it also says lenses that do not say it has UV ray protection, may not protect you.
"Experts also recommend buying sunglasses with labels saying they block both UV-A and UV-B rays. They warn that polarized lenses prevent glare but not necessarily UV penetration, and tinted lenses might not block UV rays either."

If the lenses are glass, then tinting will offer little protection. However if the lenses are plastic, you get equivalent protection. Virtually all plastic is opaque
to UV even the clear varieties.

Al Kaseltzer
Jun 15th, 2006, 10:48 AM
Uv protection is serious business, however UV protection claims by any manufacturer that they offer superior protection is worthless.

Educate yourself before you fall for the hype

The manufacturer admits there's no UV protection. This is from post #521 on page 35 of the thread:



Dear Client,
That's correct. If you add tinting to the lenses then the lenses will not be
UV protected.

Please feel free to contact us for further assistance.

Regards,

Sales and Support
www.goggles4u.com
How about you get a clue before you start telling people to "educate themselves"

Coolme
Jun 15th, 2006, 04:00 PM
My order from optical4less arrived today.

I love the frame, but there is one problem... disotortion. (again!) I've ordered glasses from zenni before (2 weeks before I ordered from optical4less) and the sole reason that I've ordered a new pair from optical4less was because the glasses from zenni (w/ 1.5 index non-aspheric lenses) had a distortion problem. So this time around, I decided to opt for optical4less' 1.67 aspheric lenses, thinking that it would slove my distortion problem. But it seemed like the lenses (while thinner) didn't slove the distortion problem. (the distortion was not as bad as the pairs from zenni, but it's annoying.) btw my prescription is right eye: -4.75 sphere left eye: -4.50 sphere

Any help is apperciated!

Daijoubu
Jun 15th, 2006, 04:56 PM
Wear them...it should go away after a day or two
Takes some times before you get used to it

Daijoubu
Jun 15th, 2006, 05:20 PM
Any of these place lets you get high index photochromic aspheric lens?
Or perhaps glass (for UV protection) + tinting?

Metablob
Jun 16th, 2006, 11:30 AM
The manufacturer admits there's no UV protection. This is from post #521 on page 35 of the thread:


How about you get a clue before you start telling people to "educate themselves"

Sigh, some people insist on being spoonfed. You want research try:
http://www.clas.ufl.edu/jur/200011/papers/paper_reardon.html

You now have a clue.

Al Kaseltzer
Jun 16th, 2006, 01:43 PM
Sigh, some people insist on being spoonfed. You want research try:
http://www.clas.ufl.edu/jur/200011/papers/paper_reardon.html

You now have a clue.

I wouldn't really put much faith in an undergrad research paper where they absolutely mangle the name of the material they're supposedly testing. The plastic used for eyeglasses, CR39 is allyl diglycol carbonate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CR39), whereas the material tested in your link there is "allydiglycloe carbonate."

Now, doing a little googling for CR39 spectral transmission curves did turn up some information (couldn't have found actually relevant information without your clue, thanks !), and seemed to indicate that CR39 is effective at blocking UV light. Most were general properties of the material, but figure 1 in this PDF (http://www.optometry.co.uk/files/9067d13c10f04d51a22e76a73afd235d_walsh20011005.pdf ) is the curve for an actual pair of glasses they tested. You'll notice there's a large discrepancy in the amount of UV transmittance between the right and left lens of a single pair of glasses. How confident are you in the quality of materials in these ultra-cheap glasses ?

Anyway, that's all science, and it's not really relevant. This is a consumer issue.

When a retailer, any retailer, says "our product is critically flawed" and there's no upgrade they're trying to sell, your only choices are buy or don't buy, it's a very safe assumption to take them at their word. Even if you can prove absolutely that there's no flaw, all you've done is shown that they are ignorant about their own product, and you shouldn't buy from them anyway.

fuc847
Jun 16th, 2006, 02:19 PM
I am looking at goggles4u, but when i click "clip-on" sunglasses, it doesnt work.

Do they sell clip-on sunglasses on presciption glasses? If so , how much? still 25.99US?

If not, which online place is the best (cheapest) to get such glasses?

Metablob
Jun 16th, 2006, 02:35 PM
Anyway, that's all science, and it's not really relevant. This is a consumer issue.

When a retailer, any retailer, says "our product is critically flawed" and there's no upgrade they're trying to sell, your only choices are buy or don't buy, it's a very safe assumption to take them at their word. Even if you can prove absolutely that there's no flaw, all you've done is shown that they are ignorant about their own product, and you shouldn't buy from them anyway.

This is true. They are only taking raw optical lens stock and making cheap glasses out of them. They have no idea about the actual performance of the materials they use. My point was that lucky for them and us, virtually all plastic lens stock will provide default protion from UV and it really shouldn't be a factor in buying this product. Fit, finish, durability and of course optical performance are far more imprtant criteria. So far, for most people, it is acceptable. As in everything YMMV.

wiseblood
Jun 16th, 2006, 02:50 PM
This is true. They are only taking raw optical lens stock and making cheap glasses out of them. They have no idea about the actual performance of the materials they use. My point was that lucky for them and us, virtually all plastic lens stock will provide default protion from UV and it really shouldn't be a factor in buying this product. Fit, finish, durability and of course optical performance are far more imprtant criteria. So far, for most people, it is acceptable. As in everything YMMV.
Great discussion on both your parts, it was full of concise and helpful information. Way to go, you provided some insight for everyone without having to sling mud at one another. Great debate, I enjoyed it thoroughly.

dougi3000
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:03 PM
I am so confused.
I wish there was an easy way to test my pair of glasses. :)

Spamate
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:17 PM
Can anyone recommend a place in Vancouver for eye exams? Maybe in the $50-$75 range. I needa get a new prescription + PD measurement before I can order from these places.

fuc847
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:19 PM
wait i have a question, if i do a 80% tint for goggles4u, do they still have prescription indexes..?

dougi3000
Jun 16th, 2006, 03:21 PM
Can anyone recommend a place in Vancouver for eye exams? Maybe in the $50-$75 range. I needa get a new prescription + PD measurement before I can order from these places.

I think almost all of them are around $70 to $75 dollars. I went to iris for $75, because they seem hip, and I will probably go do the laser eye preop thing from them FREE. And I asked them to put the PD on my prescription when I got it. And they did glaucoma test for me for FREE too, because they thought I was at risk. Doh!

duster
Jun 16th, 2006, 05:50 PM
wait i have a question, if i do a 80% tint for goggles4u, do they still have prescription indexes..?


Yes

jonnnny
Jun 17th, 2006, 04:19 PM
Just got my glasses today from the post office.. they shipped it to my billing address as opposed to my shipping addresses.. but they're very nice glasses! came with a case, cloth and screwdriver for the screws.

A+

Gellar
Jun 18th, 2006, 12:20 AM
Just got my glasses today from the post office.. they shipped it to my billing address as opposed to my shipping addresses.. but they're very nice glasses! came with a case, cloth and screwdriver for the screws.

A+
who did you order from

wiseblood
Jun 18th, 2006, 01:45 AM
Received my order from goggles4u, and couldn't be happier. The prescription is bang-on, and the frames are excellent. The only difference from my old pair is that the anti-reflective coating emits a very faint pinkish mirror image in certain light, where my old pair emits a faint bluish image. I normally just buy my glasses from Lenscrafters, not from any higher-end place that some of you shop at, so I'm used to mid-range quality and crafstmanship. These glasses from goggles4u rival any pair I've ever purchased from Lenscrafters in quality and build, at about 1/10th of the price. At roughly $30 a pair, I can afford to buy a few more pairs and still come out with savings. Bye bye Lenscrafters, it's goggles4u from now on.

the watcher
Jun 18th, 2006, 01:52 AM
Received my order from goggles4u, and couldn't be happier. The prescription is bang-on, and the frames are excellent. The only difference from my old pair is that the anti-reflective coating emits a very faint pinkish mirror image in certain light, where my old pair emits a faint bluish image. I normally just buy my glasses from Lenscrafters, not from any higher-end place that some of you shop at, so I'm used to mid-range quality and crafstmanship. These glasses from goggles4u rival any pair I've ever purchased from Lenscrafters in quality and build, at about 1/10th of the price. At roughly $30 a pair, I can afford to buy a few more pairs and still come out with savings. Bye bye Lenscrafters, it's goggles4u from now on.

pics?
when did they ship your order and when did you get them?

Moot
Jun 18th, 2006, 02:01 AM
This thread definitely needs more pics. Come on everyone, let's see what you got! :cheesygri

jonnnny
Jun 18th, 2006, 02:27 AM
who did you order from
sorry forgot to mention, got them from goggles4u, it was shipped from pakistan

bobbyt
Jun 18th, 2006, 09:58 AM
I made a purchase at optical 4 less. It arrived in a week and a half. According to my eye doctor the rescription in them is a little strong. They most likely just grabbed whatever was the closest and he suggested I only use them for special occasions to making my eyes weaker.
Despite that the clipon sunglasses I ordered feel strong and well worth the money. I added in the $35 for the lighter plastic. Good for when im playing sports etc.

Also the other clip-in style sport sunglasses I ordered ($59 + $35) had a warped blurry view and were a bit more ugly than pictured. I emailed twice asking about a refund with no reply. In the trash they go.

ainsane
Jun 18th, 2006, 12:22 PM
Goggles4u is going to send me my actual prescription. They seem nice about it... I hope they get it right this time.

advantage21
Jun 18th, 2006, 01:02 PM
Also the other clip-in style sport sunglasses I ordered ($59 + $35) had a warped blurry view and were a bit more ugly than pictured. I emailed twice asking about a refund with no reply. In the trash they go.

Thanks for the heads up. I was seriously considering a pair of those clipins too, but not any more.

TheYellowDart
Jun 18th, 2006, 02:07 PM
Goggles4u is going to send me my actual prescription. They seem nice about it... I hope they get it right this time.

yea... but now you have to pick a new frame

ainsane
Jun 18th, 2006, 02:13 PM
yea... but now you have to pick a new frame

Yeah I picked one. Too bad they ran out of all the nice styles I wanted before.

TheYellowDart
Jun 18th, 2006, 02:15 PM
Yeah I picked one. Too bad they ran out of all the nice styles I wanted before.
same's here... they messed up my PD and i need a replacement pair
took me a while to find somthing i want again

JWL
Jun 20th, 2006, 11:11 AM
I purchased the sunglass clip-ons from Goggles4U.com and 'm very happy for my $26. Took 14 days.

Prescription seems perfect.

With regard to fit and finish, a few minor quibbles, but I am fine with for the price:
* The sunglass clip-ons (magnetic) didn't fit quite right but were easily adjusted with pliers.
* The magnets are "exposed" as the metal finish seems to be missing or worn off (there were a few flakes that brushed off).
* The tinted glass in the clip-on isn't quite flush with the frame on one side.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1998/goggles4uglasses2nb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

B40
Jun 20th, 2006, 11:19 AM
I would add a pic but can't figure out how. PM me if you can explain it to me.

Take a pic and upload to www.imageshack.us :)

rfdmember
Jun 20th, 2006, 12:28 PM
been 20 regular days since my glasses were shipped and i have not received them. how long does it take to ship?

JWL
Jun 20th, 2006, 04:51 PM
Take a pic and upload to www.imageshack.us :)

Thanks for the tip. Added a picture to my post a few above.

rundmc2005
Jun 20th, 2006, 05:07 PM
Got my order today from Goggle4U.. shipped from Pakistan... as previously stated from everyone that ordered before.

The wrapping they use is quite unique.. its like a roped bag.. it actually looks quite fancy.. and the case had dolce & gabbana on it.. funny stuff.

No complaints with the glasses... very sturdy and nice.. you can't really complain considering the price... I do kinda see some glare out of the corner
of the right eye.. and the reflection is pink on the outer lens ... not sure if its the anti-glare.. but i'll live with it.

Will probably order again.

the watcher
Jun 20th, 2006, 10:21 PM
Got my order today from Goggle4U.. shipped from Pakistan... as previously stated from everyone that ordered before.

The wrapping they use is quite unique.. its like a roped bag.. it actually looks quite fancy.. and the case had dolce & gabbana on it.. funny stuff.

No complaints with the glasses... very sturdy and nice.. you can't really complain considering the price... I do kinda see some glare out of the corner
of the right eye.. and the reflection is pink on the outer lens ... not sure if its the anti-glare.. but i'll live with it.

Will probably order again.

in how long did you get them from the date they were shipped.

ainsane
Jun 20th, 2006, 10:24 PM
So goggles4u got back to me about the wrong order and asked me to give them another frame style. I sent in the e-mail yesterday, and today got another package from them! No, not next day shipping... the ones I got today were actually my original order! Funny thing though.... they had the style and colour right, but they got the frame size way off! Way too small. So I guess I'll let them send the third pair and hope the 3rd time's the charm. :)

wiseblood
Jun 20th, 2006, 10:24 PM
Received my order from goggles4u, and couldn't be happier. The prescription is bang-on, and the frames are excellent. The only difference from my old pair is that the anti-reflective coating emits a very faint pinkish mirror image in certain light, where my old pair emits a faint bluish image. I normally just buy my glasses from Lenscrafters, not from any higher-end place that some of you shop at, so I'm used to mid-range quality and crafstmanship. These glasses from goggles4u rival any pair I've ever purchased from Lenscrafters in quality and build, at about 1/10th of the price. At roughly $30 a pair, I can afford to buy a few more pairs and still come out with savings. Bye bye Lenscrafters, it's goggles4u from now on.
Mine took 13 days total from the time they were shipped to receive them. They were shipped the next day after placing the order.

edit:
Here's some pics:
Old Pair:
http://members.shaw.ca/WISEBL00D/Images/old1.jpg

New pair, you can see a bit of the pinkish anti-reflective effect I alluded to in my earlier post:
http://members.shaw.ca/WISEBL00D/Images/new.jpg

Side view, with wicked flames!!!! :|
http://members.shaw.ca/WISEBL00D/Images/new1.jpg
I decided to stick with a pair that closely resembled my old pair, just to see how they would turn out. Well, they are almost exactly the same ('cept for the flames....) so I'm happy. Since they are so inexpensive, I can afford to take a few chances and change the style up a bit on my next order (or next few orders).

TheYellowDart
Jun 21st, 2006, 10:43 PM
Side view, with wicked flames!!!! :|
http://members.shaw.ca/WISEBL00D/Images/new1.jpg
I decided to stick with a pair that closely resembled my old pair, just to see how they would turn out. Well, they are almost exactly the same ('cept for the flames....) so I'm happy. Since they are so inexpensive, I can afford to take a few chances and change the style up a bit on my next order (or next few orders).

hAHAHa omg.. i picked a black one with the same style HAHahaha

hotweiss
Jun 21st, 2006, 10:48 PM
I got my glasses from Zenni Optical without any problems...

AirBosh
Jun 22nd, 2006, 12:16 AM
Ah Long can you verify for me if they have Versace #1964? Can't seem to find them online and don't want to go back to the optical store to get pressure to buy it just yet.

Galad
Jun 22nd, 2006, 01:25 AM
My 5th pair came in today from goggles4u. Took a little longer this time, about 3 weeks.

I got a rimless pair and they are extremely nice. Hands-down the best pair of glasses I've owned.

The slight pinkish-reflection is a bit annoying, but I only really see it when I'm looking in the mirror.

the watcher
Jun 23rd, 2006, 06:25 PM
My 1st Pair Came in today from Goggle4u.
i was pelasently suprised. they are really nice. Took about 1.5 - 2 weeks.
Prescriptions seems to be good.
here are pictures so you can judge on your own.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/Dwatcher/Glasses001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/Dwatcher/Glasses002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/Dwatcher/Glasses003.jpg

Daijoubu
Jun 23rd, 2006, 06:56 PM
From where?
And what kind of lens/prescription you got? :)

the watcher
Jun 23rd, 2006, 07:11 PM
From where?
And what kind of lens/prescription you got? :)

from goggles4u, distance prescription. the normal lenses that come up to 30$. i think plastic?!!?

Kosh
Jun 24th, 2006, 12:58 PM
from goggles4u, distance prescription. the normal lenses that come up to 30$. i think plastic?!!?

actually they are glass, plastic cost more :S

ainsane
Jun 24th, 2006, 01:03 PM
Anyone know where I can donate these 2 extra frames I got (in Toronto)?

Daijoubu
Jun 24th, 2006, 01:40 PM
actually they are glass, plastic cost more :S
They're the same price for the non-photochromic
http://www.goggles4u.com/price.asp

nacho113
Jun 24th, 2006, 02:38 PM
They're the same price for the non-photochromic
http://www.goggles4u.com/price.asp
Frames are the same price, the lenses cost more.
$13 for cr39 lens
$17 for glass transition
$49 for cr39 transition

+$12.99 for most frames

nacho113
Jun 24th, 2006, 02:55 PM
If you're looking for a Bi-focal or Progressive lens, I would check out Zenni Optical as there initial pricing is a little higher than Goggles4u and they charge for shipping, but the upgrade to progressive/bifocal lenses is a less than what goggles4u charges and they use Polycarbonate instead of CR39.
I ordered a pair of Frames with polycarbonate lenses, magnetic clipon sunglasses, Progressive lenses, transistion grey, antiglare and an extra pair of magnetic sunclips and the total with the $9 shipping only came out to $108.80US. The same from goggles4u would have been $137.99 in a cr39 lens and no magnetic clipons (as they don't have any in my size)

NOTE: my last pair of progressive lenses and frames, with magnetic clipons cost me over $650 at my local optical store where I have been buying my glasses for years.

Daijoubu
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:26 PM
Frames are the same price, the lenses cost more.
$13 for cr39 lens
$17 for glass transition
$49 for cr39 transition

+$12.99 for most frames
It's also $13 for the "Glass Material High Index Lenses with antiglare, UV, and Scratch Free Coating", the non-photochromic ones

advantage21
Jun 24th, 2006, 03:37 PM
[QUOTE=nacho113]I ordered a pair of Frames with polycarbonate lenses, magnetic clipon sunglasses, Progressive lenses, transistion grey, antiglare and an extra pair of magnetic sunclips and the total with the $9 shipping only came out to $108.80US. The same from goggles4u would have been $137.99 in a cr39 lens and no magnetic clipons (as they don't have any in my size)
QUOTE]

Why bother with the clipons if you already have transition lenses?

I ordered (probably the last) pair of the clipon frame and no line bifocals for my uncle from Googles4u, it came to just over $70 CAN after using my 15% repeat customer discount. He has been very happy with the glasses too.

dasteve
Jun 24th, 2006, 04:07 PM
Anyone know where I can donate these 2 extra frames I got (in Toronto)?

Go to one of those laser eye clinics, they usually have a jar with all the old frames in it, I'm sure they donate them to some poor country.

mrken
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:16 PM
Anybody know what the indices of refraction are for the plastic and glass lenses at Goggles4u?

Thanks in advance!

hotweiss
Jun 24th, 2006, 05:44 PM
Anybody know what the indices of refraction are for the plastic and glass lenses at Goggles4u?

Thanks in advance!

I think I read somewhere in the thread that it's 1.56...

PS-just ordered from optical4less.com for someone els, great deal...

Al Kaseltzer
Jun 24th, 2006, 11:27 PM
Anybody know what the indices of refraction are for the plastic and glass lenses at Goggles4u?

Thanks in advance!

The index of refraction of CR39 (http://www.df.unibo.it/macro/intercast/charact.htm) is 1.5, and Crown Glass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_glass_%28optics%29) is 1.52. Those are the standard materials for Eyeglasses, but Goggles4U doesn't specify exactly what type of glass they use so it's a bit of an assumption.

It's important to note that even though a CR39 lens will be just slightly thicker than a glass lens, it will still weigh only half as much, as the material is much less dense.

nacho113
Jun 25th, 2006, 12:19 PM
Why bother with the clipons if you already have transition lenses?

I ordered (probably the last) pair of the clipon frame and no line bifocals for my uncle from Googles4u, it came to just over $70 CAN after using my 15% repeat customer discount. He has been very happy with the glasses too.
That's what I thought when I bought my first pair of glasses from Goggles4u back in January. I quickly realised that although the Transitions work great when you go outside, they suck when you get in your vehicle to drive. The glass in the car windows blocks almost all of the UV light that makes the Transition lenses darken. You end up needing a pair of prescription sunglasses for driving, because the Transitions change back to almost clear inside a vehicle. (guess it would be OK if you drive a convertible, but we've got kids so it's minivan city here).
The glasses that I ordered from Zenni with the clipons and the Transition lenses covers both situations quite nicely. As a side benefit, the transistions usually darken to 20% range when I'm at work (I work in a big box store with about a gajillion watts of lighting in the place)

mrken
Jun 25th, 2006, 03:09 PM
I think I read somewhere in the thread that it's 1.56...

PS-just ordered from optical4less.com for someone els, great deal...

The index of refraction of CR39 (http://www.df.unibo.it/macro/intercast/charact.htm) is 1.5, and Crown Glass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_glass_%28optics%29) is 1.52. Those are the standard materials for Eyeglasses, but Goggles4U doesn't specify exactly what type of glass they use so it's a bit of an assumption.

It's important to note that even though a CR39 lens will be just slightly thicker than a glass lens, it will still weigh only half as much, as the material is much less dense.
Thank you both for the information!

I wonder why they advertise the lenses as high-index when they are in the 1.5 range... Are these not the ubiquitous standard-index lenses.

holymoly
Jun 28th, 2006, 10:23 AM
I'm in the middle of filling out an order at googles4u.com for rimless glasses with brown transition lenses and I need some help.

Does anyone know -- in the section where you fill out your prescription info, there's a place where you specify "permanent tint" colours and "tint intensity"... is that only for non-transition sunglasses? Do I leave those both blank if I've asked for brown transition lenses?

Thanks in advance.

nacho113
Jun 28th, 2006, 11:05 AM
I'm in the middle of filling out an order at googles4u.com for rimless glasses with brown transition lenses and I need some help.

Does anyone know -- in the section where you fill out your prescription info, there's a place where you specify "permanent tint" colours and "tint intensity"... is that only for non-transition sunglasses? Do I leave those both blank if I've asked for brown transition lenses?

Thanks in advance.
Just leave that section blank - unless you want sunglasses.
They won't allow tint and transition at the same time. Also you don't get the multicoating with the tint, so no Antiglare,UV protection or Antiscratch.

holymoly
Jun 28th, 2006, 11:11 AM
Thanks nacho113!

sl2004
Jun 30th, 2006, 01:27 AM
I ordered a pair of sunglasses from Zenni Optical. You can read my review by going to my FindGirlGear.com Blog (http://findgirlgear.blogspot.com/)

http://www.findgirlgear.com/sitebuilder/images/Resize_of_Resize_of_IMG_0711-339x121.jpg

SpYcho
Jun 30th, 2006, 02:40 AM
Just leave that section blank - unless you want sunglasses.
They won't allow tint and transition at the same time. Also you don't get the multicoating with the tint, so no Antiglare,UV protection or Antiscratch.

no UV protection?!?! then how can anyone use tint to replace sunglasses? UV protection is important for our eyes, correct? :confused:

Daijoubu
Jun 30th, 2006, 02:42 AM
The lens itself should already be blocking UV, the extra layer doesn't add much protection, it's just marketing ;)

M@rk
Jun 30th, 2006, 02:57 AM
The lens itself should already be blocking UV, the extra layer doesn't add much protection, it's just marketing ;)

Unless the material is polycarbonate, the lens will not block UV. So if they do not apply the multicoat to the lens (it says it's free for NORMAL lenses), you'll end up with really dialated pupils from the tint, and even more UV will get into your eyes. Most places apply the UV automatically if you go for the tint, but I think you guys should double-check, considering these do only cost $30 and come from Pakistan.

holymoly
Jun 30th, 2006, 08:59 AM
no UV protection?!?! then how can anyone use tint to replace sunglasses? UV protection is important for our eyes, correct? :confused:

My understanding is that the transition lens do have UV coating at goggles4u. If you choose their "single vision transitional lenses (distance or reading)" with your choice of brown or grey tint, you'll be protected.

Post #534 includes this info emailed to ElectricFuneral from googles4u:
"Dear Client,
Further to our last email. Please note that our transition lenses are UV
protected. Also note that if you get any lenses tinted it may not have UV
protection as tinting on coated lenses is not possible.

The only solution is to have transition lenses or to buy polarized clip-on."

The email was a follow-up to an earlier one (don't know that post #) in which goggles4u confirmed that if you put a permanent tint on clear lenses (to make them sunglasses) you will not have UV coating.

TheYellowDart
Jun 30th, 2006, 06:09 PM
my repairment pair from goggle4u arrived today...
they failed me on the 2nd time...
i still see things popping up!!
aRGGG! :mad:

Moot
Jun 30th, 2006, 09:27 PM
I received my glasses yesterday from goggles4u. The frame is nice and the prescription is bang on, but the lenses were flawed, mainly just the left one. There were 2 brown spots on the lens and the same lens looked all scratched up. Not sure if that's how to describe it, but when you look through the lens, it definitely is not crystal clear. The other lens just has a very small portion the same way, otherwise it is perfect. I have been in contact with goggles4u, and I hope to have them send me a replacement pair. I will let you all know how it goes. Here is a picture showing those brown spots on the lens:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7145/glassflaw8tl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I don't have a good digicam, so taking a shot of the scratchiness on the lenses isnt possible, but just imagine looking through a dirty lens.

wealthyboomer
Jul 1st, 2006, 04:22 PM
Placed my order on June 11th.
Received the order on June 30th.

It came from PAKISTAN.

The frame is nice but too small.

Something wrong with the prescription as it gave me an instant headache. Can't focus properly with them. :mad:

I really like the thinness of the lens as it is thinner than my current glasses.

Looks like I will be returning these as I'm unable to wear them.

trolldealhunter
Jul 1st, 2006, 04:28 PM
looks like goggles4u has from good to bad!?

duster
Jul 3rd, 2006, 04:02 AM
I ordered a pair of sunglasses from Zenni Optical. You can read my review by going to my FindGirlGear.com Blog (http://findgirlgear.blogspot.com/)

http://www.findgirlgear.com/sitebuilder/images/Resize_of_Resize_of_IMG_0711-339x121.jpg


Will you really wear this?! :|

I hope you're a girl at least!

Intricated
Jul 3rd, 2006, 03:04 PM
I hope you're a girl at least!Er:

I ordered a pair of sunglasses from Zenni Optical. You can read my review by going to my FindGirlGear.com Blog

SpYcho
Jul 3rd, 2006, 03:12 PM
Is it just me, or is there no sun clip-ons (http://www.goggles4u.com/eyewear.asp?category=sunclip) on goggles4u?

M@rk
Jul 3rd, 2006, 03:24 PM
"Dear Client,
Further to our last email. Please note that our transition lenses are UV
protected. Also note that if you get any lenses tinted it may not have UV
protection as tinting on coated lenses is not possible.

The only solution is to have transition lenses or to buy polarized clip-on."


Wow, thanks for letting us know, because that can be really dangerous.

I know for a fact that you can put a UV coat on tinted lenses... so I don't know what's going on here.

sl2004
Jul 3rd, 2006, 06:18 PM
Will you really wear this?! :|

I hope you're a girl at least!

Haha... Yes I am a girl and I like pink. I wore my sunglasses all weekend and they were great.

I got my rimless pair from googles4u. I'll write a review and picture later. I'm going to go to the lenscrafters and get them to check the prescription because they make my eyes hurt real bad. Plus they have that pink glare on them. :mad:

golugal
Jul 3rd, 2006, 06:26 PM
We have been hearing outsorcing of jobs.. now its outsoucing of eye glasses. The quality of all these venors are ZERO . If you don't trust me try it out and all I want to say " Good Luck with your eyes"

trolldealhunter
Jul 3rd, 2006, 06:27 PM
We have been hearing outsorcing of jobs.. now its outsoucing of eye glasses. The quality of all these venors are ZERO . If you don't trust me try it out and all I want to say " Good Luck with your eyes"


so you work for Hakim optical? or lenscrafters?!

trolldealhunter
Jul 3rd, 2006, 07:14 PM
hey guys, for those >19 can u get ur eyes checked for free?

Corel
Jul 3rd, 2006, 07:18 PM
Hmm. Is it usally 2-3 weeks to arrive for everyone?

Moot
Jul 3rd, 2006, 07:24 PM
We have been hearing outsorcing of jobs.. now its outsoucing of eye glasses. The quality of all these venors are ZERO . If you don't trust me try it out and all I want to say " Good Luck with your eyes"

Ok, Mr. I Work For Lenscrafters. :rolleyes:

Do you honestly believe a pair of glasses(a little bit of metal, a little bit of glass, and a little time to put the 2 together) is worth $200-300 minimum? Give me a break. A lot of people have been very happy with their $30 glasses.

Anyways, about my situation with goggles4u. They said that it was most likely a manufacturing defect where the lenses were not coated properly. They told me to choose a frame and are sending me a replacement pair immediately. There may have been some problems with their glasses but their customer service is top notch. Anyways, I will keep everyone informed when my new pair arrives.

Moot
Jul 3rd, 2006, 07:25 PM
hey guys, for those >19 can u get ur eyes checked for free?

Not unless you have insurance. I am 19 and I had to pay $75 for an eye exam.

trolldealhunter
Jul 3rd, 2006, 08:36 PM
Not unless you have insurance. I am 19 and I had to pay $75 for an eye exam.

im 18, is it still free 4 me?

Moot
Jul 3rd, 2006, 08:44 PM
im 18, is it still free 4 me?

If Alberta's legal age is the same as BC's then yes. But just phone up your local eye doctor and make sure first.

sl2004
Jul 3rd, 2006, 10:03 PM
http://www.findgirlgear.com/sitebuilder/images/glasses2-422x167.jpg

I posted a review of the glasses I got from googles4u. You can read it here (http://findgirlgear.blogspot.com/)

Metablob
Jul 3rd, 2006, 10:31 PM
Wow, thanks for letting us know, because that can be really dangerous.

I know for a fact that you can put a UV coat on tinted lenses... so I don't know what's going on here.
Search earlier in this thread - UV coatings are only useful on glass lenses. Adding a UV coating on their plastic lenses is redundant as the CR47 material gives good UV protection all on it's own.

advantage21
Jul 4th, 2006, 12:15 AM
Is it just me, or is there no sun clip-ons (http://www.goggles4u.com/eyewear.asp?category=sunclip) on goggles4u?

Sold out.

muffin
Jul 4th, 2006, 12:32 AM
http://www.findgirlgear.com/sitebuilder/images/glasses2-422x167.jpg

I posted a review of the glasses I got from googles4u. You can read it here (http://findgirlgear.blogspot.com/)
I was wondering what your prescription is? Thanks

holymoly
Jul 4th, 2006, 10:19 AM
Will you really wear this?! :|

I like them. To each her own!

I just got an email from goggles4u that the glasses I ordered had a defect and I have to choose a different frame. :( At least they said they'd make my order a high priority once I'd made another choice. (But choosing is taking me ages!)

trolldealhunter
Jul 4th, 2006, 10:45 AM
Sold out.


grrreat, i have to get another pair now :( still better than shelling out 300 for each pair at hakim :D

Gellar
Jul 4th, 2006, 12:08 PM
Hey guys, at Zenni they have memory titanium and pure titanium glasses. Is there much of a difference? All I can think of is that the pure titanium ones cant be bent, which would such for such a nice metal.

Anyone know for sure? thanks!

manixc
Jul 4th, 2006, 12:11 PM
Wouldn't the memory titanium be the one that bent? Hence the word, memory?

Gellar
Jul 4th, 2006, 12:14 PM
Wouldn't the memory titanium be the one that bent? Hence the word, memory?
whoops, yea you're totally right. I didnt proof read, sorry!

so the pure titanium ones cant be bent at all? Im hoping someone has tried them from zenni so they can spread the word

manixc
Jul 4th, 2006, 12:15 PM
We have been hearing outsorcing of jobs.. now its outsoucing of eye glasses. The quality of all these venors are ZERO . If you don't trust me try it out and all I want to say " Good Luck with your eyes"

Well, so far so good for me.
Honestly, with my prescription, I can't really afford to change my glasses more often. These cheap stores provide a good alternative.

kiasu
Jul 4th, 2006, 01:03 PM
i bought it just to get the frame..i will put the lenses on trash and redo..
hey man..for $30 a frame...not a bad choice......

neo1973
Jul 4th, 2006, 09:53 PM
i bought it just to get the frame..i will put the lenses on trash and redo..
hey man..for $30 a frame...not a bad choice......
Yeah if you could find a good frame you like for $30 I think it's still a good deal.

fwhc022883
Jul 5th, 2006, 07:56 PM
I just got my bendable titanium glasses from Zenni Optical and the lens are questionable. I got the 1.61 High Index one and when I look a little left/right, everything looks blurry/bulgy. Can't believe I paid $80 for this purchase. :mad:

So just a head up for those looking to buy from Zenni, buyers beware.

hankscorpio
Jul 5th, 2006, 11:36 PM
I just got my bendable titanium glasses from Zenni Optical and the lens are questionable. I got the 1.61 High Index one and when I look a little left/right, everything looks blurry/bulgy. Can't believe I paid $80 for this purchase. :mad:

So just a head up for those looking to buy from Zenni, buyers beware.
COuld be because you're not used to them. It might go away. Mine did with my ones from Hakim. Same problem.

hopetindall
Jul 5th, 2006, 11:46 PM
I just got my bendable titanium glasses from Zenni Optical and the lens are questionable. I got the 1.61 High Index one and when I look a little left/right, everything looks blurry/bulgy. Can't believe I paid $80 for this purchase. :mad:

So just a head up for those looking to buy from Zenni, buyers beware.


There may be nothing wrong with the Zenni glasses.

Do you have a high prescription (over +or-3-4 diopters?)

I have a high Rx (+6 in my right eye and +4.75 in my left) and I have lots of problems with blurriness and colour problems outside the narrow centre area of many glasses.

This is due to chromatic aberration - its an optical product of the lense - its related to the abbe number of the lense (do a wikipedia search for abbe number for lots of info).

The abbe number is related to the material used for the lenses. I have had lots of problems in the past with so-called 'High Index' lenses. There is a three-way trade off with all lenses - weight vs. thickness vs. abbe.

I've found in many cases - the expensive high index lenses while thinner and lighter are just not something I can wear because of their poor optical properties.

In fact - I bought many high index lenses at different opticians and ended up returning and remaking them.

After 10 years of this nonsense I found a good middle-ground lense called Spectralite from Sola. It has an index between normal and high but has a good high abbe number; so its sort of a trade off. A little thicker than I could buy - but better optics.

I've purchased a couple of pairs from Zenni - and also a couple of pairs from Goggles4u. In all honesty; I'm very impressed with the workmanship and quality of both. The blurry off-centre and distortion I have is no better or worse than the $400 pair of glasses I bought at a name brand optician a couple of years ago.

Anyway - don't know if this helps - just my humble thoughts - but perhaps it's an explanation if indeed you have a high Rx.

PHT

Gellar
Jul 6th, 2006, 12:52 AM
I just got my bendable titanium glasses from Zenni Optical and the lens are questionable. I got the 1.61 High Index one and when I look a little left/right, everything looks blurry/bulgy. Can't believe I paid $80 for this purchase. :mad:

So just a head up for those looking to buy from Zenni, buyers beware.
How are the frames though? are they actually bendable?

edit: goggles4u seriously needs to get more stock of glasses with sun clip ons

Bobby S.
Jul 6th, 2006, 01:44 AM
I could use a pair of sunglasses for driving, as transitions don't work with the UV coated windshield.
Does anyone know what tinting percent I should get (my guess is 100%)?
Also, I was wondering what green/blue tint would look like; I'll probally just stick with black.

CR39 Material High Index Lenses or Glass Material High Index Lenses?
I've never had glass lenses but heard that they give you the best vision. I've wondered if you can really tell the difference between weight.

I'd like to be protected from UV rays and have a tint that people can't see my eyes. :twisted:

M@rk
Jul 6th, 2006, 01:56 AM
CR39 Material High Index Lenses or Glass Material High Index Lenses?
I've never had glass lenses but heard that they give you the best vision. I've wondered if you can really tell the difference between weight.


There's a HUGE difference in weight between glass and plastic, especially when it's all resting on your nose. But in terms of vision, I doubt anyone can tell the difference between glass and plastic (unless goggles4u uses some uber cheap stuff). Almost no one uses glass anymore, because it's heavy and shatters.

mrken
Jul 6th, 2006, 02:12 AM
Chromatic aberration should not cause spacial distortion. It should only show itself in colour fringes between two colours with high contrast. But you should get used to it after a month or two.

I just had my eyes checked, and my eyes have continued its deterioration. :( By the way, for one of my eyes, the axis (for astigmatism) flipped from 003 to 180. How was that possible?

conman7331
Jul 6th, 2006, 02:41 AM
Glasses Xd

hopetindall
Jul 6th, 2006, 08:53 AM
Chromatic aberration should not cause spacial distortion. It should only show itself in colour fringes between two colours with high contrast. But you should get used to it after a month or two.

I just had my eyes checked, and my eyes have continued its deterioration. :( By the way, for one of my eyes, the axis (for astigmatism) flipped from 003 to 180. How was that possible?


Thanks actually not much of a change - the scale restarts after 180.

Perpahs I misunderstood the initial point - for my eyes and brain - chromatic aberration 'looks' like bluriness in everyday life - the multicoloured world around me refracts in such a way that "I see blurry people" off centre. I notice this when I move my eye direction away from the optical centre of the lens. I can to some degree learn to ignore this in certain circumstances.

Spatial distortions (for me anyway) usually occur when I change to or from a new lens (especially the change to or from an ashperic / atoric lenses).
I notice this when I move my head as opposed to my eye and notice the fishbowl like effect of unfamiliar lenses. I always get used to this after a little while.


PHT

trolldealhunter
Jul 6th, 2006, 09:14 AM
Thanks actually not much of a change - the scale restarts after 180.

Perpahs I misunderstood the initial point - for my eyes and brain - chromatic aberration 'looks' like bluriness in everyday life - the multicoloured world around me refracts in such a way that "I see blurry people" off centre. I notice this when I move my eye direction away from the optical centre of the lens. I can to some degree learn to ignore this in certain circumstances.

Spatial distortions (for me anyway) usually occur when I change to or from a new lens (especially the change to or from an ashperic / atoric lenses).
I notice this when I move my head as opposed to my eye and notice the fishbowl like effect of unfamiliar lenses. I always get used to this after a little while.


PHT

cut back on the masterbation :cheesygri

hopetindall
Jul 6th, 2006, 09:17 AM
cut back on the masterbation :cheesygri

lol

hans1974
Jul 6th, 2006, 05:16 PM
ordered one from goggles4u last month, checked the order status: it was shipped on June 15. Still haven't got it... ...

holymoly
Jul 6th, 2006, 05:22 PM
ordered one from goggles4u last month, checked the order status: it was shipped on June 15. Still haven't got it... ...

I hope it isn't tied up in customs. Maybe email goggles4u (info@goggles4u.com or through the "contact us" section of their website) to make sure it was sent? When I emailed them a question, they replied quickly.

deeplove
Jul 6th, 2006, 05:45 PM
what do you people think of the one here:
http://optical4less.com/index.cgi?sec=pA9bg9G4utDQlAUbRlAsBPKU0OkFoo&mode=loaditem&id=MA066

im thinking of the gunmetal one.
What im worried about is it doesn't look good on me..

FOR people who have bought from online retailers, whats your experience? received something that doesn't match your face? and had to refund?

ARK
Jul 6th, 2006, 06:01 PM
Got my glasses today from google4u. Received approx. after 1 months from the date I ordered.

Very satisfied with the glasses and will order again from them. :)

holymoly
Jul 6th, 2006, 06:03 PM
FOR people who have bought from online retailers, whats your experience? received something that doesn't match your face? and had to refund?

I doubt they'd refund if it didn't look good on you. Maybe if they got the prescription wrong or used the wrong frame.

I've ordered but haven't received mine, so my experience is limited.

The frames you chose look pretty good, I think, but to each his own -- you'd probably be rofl at the ones I chose!

Edit: I don't mean you specifically... but I can imagine people chuckling. Not that the frames are bizarre -- goggles4u doesn't have anything really weird -- but I wanted something a little offbeat.

laser7500
Jul 6th, 2006, 06:18 PM
Ordered a pair a month and a half ago from Goggles4u; they arrived two weeks after ordering. Quite happy with them (single vision with 20% green tint for cosmetic purpose, not as sunglasses) - so much so that I just ordered another pair (transitions) for myself and bifocals for my mom.

There is a small gap between the right lens and the frame, but this is more noticable from the inside than the out, so its not a big issue. For $30, a solid purchase.

fwhc022883
Jul 6th, 2006, 06:35 PM
hopetindall: Thanks for the informative post. My left eye is -3.5 and my right is -5.25.




How are the frames though? are they actually bendable?

Yes, they are. The frame is good and very light too.

deeplove
Jul 6th, 2006, 07:14 PM
i need strong lenses. hence im not considering rimless nor semi-rimless.
im also considering the option of buying nice sunglasses and fitting it with my own prescription lens. what do you people think?

holymoly
Jul 6th, 2006, 08:57 PM
Do you honestly believe a pair of glasses(a little bit of metal, a little bit of glass, and a little time to put the 2 together) is worth $200-300 minimum? Give me a break.

To your point, here's something to consider:

Goggles4u, on the Corporate Sales Department page of their website, says that they are "also known as supplier to well known eyewear chain of stores, Eye Clinics and many Entrepreneurs working on small scale and earning handsome commission by acting as our authorized distributors."

And at the top of that page it says: "Eyewear For Just USD $4.99 (Free Multicoating.)"

$4.99!!!!

trolldealhunter
Jul 7th, 2006, 12:26 AM
To your point, here's something to consider:

Goggles4u, on the Corporate Sales Department page of their website, says that they are "also known as supplier to well known eyewear chain of stores, Eye Clinics and many Entrepreneurs working on small scale and earning handsome commission by acting as our authorized distributors."

And at the top of that page it says: "Eyewear For Just USD $4.99 (Free Multicoating.)"

$4.99!!!!


indeed it is amazing, i emailed them and apparently they have factories in pakistan, hong kong and taiwan!

Gellar
Jul 7th, 2006, 12:33 AM
i ordered a pair of transitions, glass lenses, from goggles4u

the way i see it is if they suck, its only 30 bucks, if not, i got a nice outside pair!

neo1973
Jul 7th, 2006, 08:42 AM
And at the top of that page it says: "Eyewear For Just USD $4.99 (Free Multicoating.)"

$4.99!!!!
WOW. This made me nervous. :lol:

How much does it cost them to produce this anyway? $3 or 4? :confused: Then how good can the quality be?

Daijoubu
Jul 7th, 2006, 10:10 AM
How much do you think it cost to produce a branded tshirt/shoes or whatever in these countries? How much do these big compagnies charge us? :)

hopetindall
Jul 7th, 2006, 11:45 AM
hopetindall: Thanks for the informative post. My left eye is -3.5 and my right is -5.25.

np. Thank you for the interesting discussion.

For anyone who is interested:

Here is some research I did about 5 years ago into different lenses:

I was stunned by the ignorance of many opticians not taking ABBE into consideration for my prescription. Suprisingly - lenscrafters did a good job of spotting this. I now spend a lot of time getting to know and trust my optician and asking more questions.

RIght now my daily wear a nice frame that I purchased about 7 years ago (nothing special - but fits my pupil distance perfectly - my pupils are in the precise centre of the lense) with a Solar Spectralite 1.54 lense I ordered through Hakim when they had a sale. I also have a nice spare pair from goggles4u and 2 pairs of sunglasses made by zenni.

(I also ordered my wife a pair of sunglasses from zenni and one from goggles4u; she's very happy with both. - $23 and change (repeat goggles4u order) is cheaper than $200 prescription sunglasses from a chain!).


(Once again abbe measures the amount of change of refractive index with change in wavelength; think of it as the inverse of the 'size' of the rainbow it makes. So it your looking at different colours next to each other (blue and red for example) - they can blur more or less - at low Rx - it just isn't noticable - but for me with a +6 in one eye and a +5.25 in the other - it's a problem. Lower abbe = bad, Higher abbe = good).

I also had an optician friend teach me how to use the lensometer to check Rx.

Don't be afraid to ask questions; lots of questions - it's your health and your responsibility.

Standard Plastic CR39 (This is your standard plastic - the default lense you will get at any optician)
Index: 1.499 (bigger number = thinner glasses)
Abbe: 58 (lower number = more blurry/fringe problems at high Rx)
Specific Gravity: 1.32 (bigger number = heavier)

Polycarbonate (The Featherwate lens from lenscrafters, its a lot lighter and thinner than normal lenses but the Abbe is really low and while it works fine for my kids (who have low Rx - its absolutely aweful for me with a high Rx!)
Index: 1.586
Abbe: 30
Specific Gravity: 1.20

Zeiss 1.6 AS
Index = 1.59
Abbe: 36
Specific Gravity: 1.34

SOLA Spectralite ASL
Index: 1.537
Abbe: 47
Specific Gravity: 1.21

SOLA Spectralite ASL Velocity Transitions
Index: 1.537
Abbe: 42

SOLA Finalite 1.6
Index: 1.600
Abbe: 42
Specific Gravity: 1.23

Seiko Super 1.6
Index: 1.6
Abbe: 42

Daijoubu
Jul 7th, 2006, 12:26 PM
So that's what's called! Abbe (aberration?)
Interesting informations you got there :)

hopetindall
Jul 7th, 2006, 01:47 PM
So that's what's called! Abbe (aberration?)
Interesting informations you got there :)

Yes and No.

Abbe number is related to something that sort of causes a specific type of optical aberration - but the words come from different places.

abbe comes from Ernst Karl Abbe. (a fairly recent historical figure)

aberration (I think) comes from a much older latin word.

microserf
Jul 7th, 2006, 08:28 PM
np. Thank you for the interesting discussion.

For anyone who is interested:

Here is some research I did about 5 years ago into different lenses:

I was stunned by the ignorance of many opticians not taking ABBE into consideration for my prescription. Suprisingly - lenscrafters did a good job of spotting this. I now spend a lot of time getting to know and trust my optician and asking more questions.

RIght now my daily wear a nice frame that I purchased about 7 years ago (nothing special - but fits my pupil distance perfectly - my pupils are in the precise centre of the lense) with a Solar Spectralite 1.54 lense I ordered through Hakim when they had a sale. I also have a nice spare pair from goggles4u and 2 pairs of sunglasses made by zenni.

(I also ordered my wife a pair of sunglasses from zenni and one from goggles4u; she's very happy with both. - $23 and change (repeat goggles4u order) is cheaper than $200 prescription sunglasses from a chain!).


(Once again abbe measures the amount of change of refractive index with change in wavelength; think of it as the inverse of the 'size' of the rainbow it makes. So it your looking at different colours next to each other (blue and red for example) - they can blur more or less - at low Rx - it just isn't noticable - but for me with a +6 in one eye and a +5.25 in the other - it's a problem. Lower abbe = bad, Higher abbe = good).

I also had an optician friend teach me how to use the lensometer to check Rx.

Don't be afraid to ask questions; lots of questions - it's your health and your responsibility.

Standard Plastic CR39 (This is your standard plastic - the default lense you will get at any optician)
Index: 1.499 (bigger number = thinner glasses)
Abbe: 58 (lower number = more blurry/fringe problems at high Rx)
Specific Gravity: 1.32 (bigger number = heavier)

Polycarbonate (The Featherwate lens from lenscrafters, its a lot lighter and thinner than normal lenses but the Abbe is really low and while it works fine for my kids (who have low Rx - its absolutely aweful for me with a high Rx!)
Index: 1.586
Abbe: 30
Specific Gravity: 1.20

Zeiss 1.6 AS
Index = 1.59
Abbe: 36
Specific Gravity: 1.34

SOLA Spectralite ASL
Index: 1.537
Abbe: 47
Specific Gravity: 1.21

SOLA Spectralite ASL Velocity Transitions
Index: 1.537
Abbe: 42

SOLA Finalite 1.6
Index: 1.600
Abbe: 42
Specific Gravity: 1.23

Seiko Super 1.6
Index: 1.6
Abbe: 42

my presciption is even stronger than yours but i have always bought nikons and there doesn't seem to be any issues with chromatic abberation especially with the 4 series (my current ones). I've owned every nikon series except the fives and they are all excellent.

hopetindall
Jul 7th, 2006, 09:03 PM
my presciption is even stronger than yours but i have always bought nikons and there doesn't seem to be any issues with chromatic abberation especially with the 4 series (my current ones). I've owned every nikon series except the fives and they are all excellent.

Great.

It's also a subjective thing. I found a couple of postings of usenet with people having chromatic aberration problems with Nikon 4.

I couldn't find the abbe of the lense - but I can tell you from my experience - if it was too low; I probably couldn't wear them!

(I don't know if I'm in the fitting range anyway.)

Are you a hyperope or a myope?

PHT

microserf
Jul 7th, 2006, 09:48 PM
Well i'm myopic maybe that makes a difference.
and possibly the fact that the nikon 4 is an aspheric lens will reduce the chromatic abberation

dangerousfob
Jul 7th, 2006, 10:26 PM
wow fast shipping. I ordered on June 25th night. Arrived today, July 7th.

The prescription seems right, but the lenses have a slightly bad cut. Also frames do feel kinda cheaply made.



edit: from goggles4u.com

got the half rims,

If you do order from them, im suggesting you try to get frames with springs (if going with metal).

hopetindall
Jul 8th, 2006, 01:36 AM
Well i'm myopic maybe that makes a difference.
and possibly the fact that the nikon 4 is an aspheric lens will reduce the chromatic abberation

Actually I dont think it does. (aspheric) From what I've read it reduces other aberations and distortions 'fish bowl' like effects etc.

(I've also read that sometimes people have trouble adapting to and from aspheric lenses.)

The whole chromatic aberation thing is really subjective from what I've learned - in my case it didn't show up until my prescription went above 4.75. Same lab, same glasses, same lenses - only the different Rx.

I think some people can adapt to it - I can't and so for me the tradeoff for heavier, thicker lenses is much easier to bear than the problems.

I'm glad you've found a lens that works really well for you.

I'm really happy with the Sola Spectralite Aspheric.

Cheers,

PHT

holymoly
Jul 8th, 2006, 07:53 AM
wow fast shipping. I ordered on June 25th night. Arrived today, July 7th.

From where -- goggles4u?

Bobby S.
Jul 8th, 2006, 05:17 PM
If you get 100% black tint from googles4u is it dark enough to keep others from seeing your eyes. :) I'd like some prescription sunglasses with a very strong tint. :)
Or a picture from anyone that ordered 100% black tint glasses. :D

joe friday
Jul 8th, 2006, 06:59 PM
Personally I think 100% tint would be too much. I have 70% and you can barely see my eyes. You would have to be standing right next to me. At 70% the glasses are too dark inside most buildings and I have to take them off. I think that 80% would be more than enough to keep people from seeing your eyes, if that's what you are looking for.

It would also be more than enough tint as a sunglass, unless you spend tons of time in very bright surroundings, like at the beach or skiing on sunny days. Even then, I think that you would be better off with a lower tint and make sure that you got polarized glasses and anti-reflective coating.

hopetindall
Jul 8th, 2006, 07:31 PM
If you get 100% black tint from googles4u is it dark enough to keep others from seeing your eyes. :) I'd like some prescription sunglasses with a very strong tint. :)
Or a picture from anyone that ordered 100% black tint glasses. :D


I think the tint is a little inconsistent.

I ordered a 100% black for my wife and it seemed to be about the same as my 80% black tint.

He some pictures of my glasses at:

http://homepage.mac.com/hopetindall/PhotoAlbum8.html

I'll post pictures of my wife's glasses when she lets me! ;-)

PHT

dangerousfob
Jul 8th, 2006, 07:34 PM
From where -- goggles4u?

Yes from goggles4u, didnt expect it to come this early.
Received with a screw / nut tool, replacement temples, and a bright green case (Fiorucci?). Will try to take pictures

JWL
Jul 8th, 2006, 07:37 PM
You should really think twice about getting tinted glasses from goggles4u.com because the DON'T have UV protection. Without the UV protection the tinting will leave your pupils wide open to UV rays. It is way worse than no tinting (in which case your eyes would squint).

I guess it would be OK if you got their tinted glasses and didn't use them as sunglasses, but that seems unlikely.

hopetindall
Jul 8th, 2006, 07:49 PM
You should really think twice about getting tinted glasses from goggles4u.com because the DON'T have UV protection. Without the UV protection the tinting will leave your pupils wide open to UV rays. It is way worse than no tinting (in which case your eyes would squint).

I guess it would be OK if you got their tinted glasses and didn't use them as sunglasses, but that seems unlikely.

Actually - if the lenses are polycarb they block both UVA and UVB without any coating.

Regular plastic lenses - (CR39) blocks UVB naturally.

The goggles4u web site says they have UV coating - but dont specify anymore.

One pair of untinted glasses I ordered for my son has a definate Anti-Reflective coating on it - but I can't detect anything on any of my regular pairs.

I agree - it would be good to exercise caution - and perhaps even test this somehow.

JWL
Jul 8th, 2006, 10:15 PM
In earlier posts goggles4u indicated that if they do the tinting, they do NOT do the multi-coating that has the UV protection/anti-glare/scratch-resistence.

I hadn't heard that the CR39 lenses have UV protection without the multi-coating. That would be good news for those that ordered tinted glasses as sunglasses.

firefly!
Jul 9th, 2006, 02:15 AM
I'm having trouble finding an optician to measure my P.D. so I can purchase glasses online. Question: are opticians allowed to coerce the consumer in this fashion by providing the P.D. measurement only if you purchase eyeglasses from him or her? I also noticed that even when you had already purchased eyeglasses or contacts, the optician will not disclose your P.D. to you. I'm sure many will agree with me when I state that this practice is quite unethical. Why not just charge a fee for the P.D. measurement without tying it to a purchase? Does anyone know a place in GVR where I can get my P.D. from an optician who won't try to infuriate the consumer with unwanted peddling?

Daijoubu
Jul 9th, 2006, 10:26 AM
I'm not sure how precise my method is, but should be better than looking in the mirror or asking a friend to do it...

You'll need a digicam and a ruler for this
Please the ruler level to your eyes, againsts your face so it's proportional, take a picture and open it in your favorite editor, now mark vertical lines and mesure your PD :)

nacho113
Jul 9th, 2006, 12:22 PM
I hadn't heard that the CR39 lenses have UV protection without the multi-coating. That would be good news for those that ordered tinted glasses as sunglasses.
Although CR39 blocks UVB, the big problem is the UVA radiation which penetrates deeper than UVB.
Opt for something with complete UV protection to be safe.
I personally have a pair of 60% tint glasses from goggles4u that I use for driving since my transition lenses don't work inside my vehicle. (the vehicle glass blocks the UV that makes the transition lenses darken) I leave these in my car and only use them for driving, so the vehicle is providing the UV protection for me.
I ordered another pair of sunglasses from Zenni to wear at the beach and on holidays, they use polycarbonate lenses which give full UV protection without having to be coated. $15.95 (frame +clear lens) + $4.95 (80% grey tint) + $4.90 (AR coating) = $25.80 + $9 shipping = $34.80 for full protection.
The Anti-reflective coating may have been overkill for a pair of sunglasses, but I figured with a dark tint, I didn't want to be seeing the reflection of my eyeball on the inside of the glasses on really bright days.
Without the AR you'd be looking at $29.90 shipped, not too bad for a prescription pair of sunglasses with full UV protection (gives goggles4u a run for there money)

NOTE: prices are US dollars

Al Kaseltzer
Jul 9th, 2006, 01:20 PM
Although CR39 blocks UVB, the big problem is the UVA radiation which penetrates deeper than UVB.
Opt for something with complete UV protection to be safe.
(...)
I ordered another pair of sunglasses from Zenni to wear at the beach and on holidays, they use polycarbonate lenses which give full UV protection without having to be coated.

CR39 is a polycarbonate, so Zenni might just be a bit more positive in their marketing than Goggles4U is.

hopetindall
Jul 9th, 2006, 02:37 PM
CR39 is a polycarbonate, so Zenni might just be a bit more positive in their marketing than Goggles4U is.

no - CR39 in the optical world is different than POLYCARBONATE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate) .

Polycarbonate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate) is thinner and lighter and has a higher index of refraction than CR39.

Take a look at: http://www.peninsula-optical.com/material.htm

joe friday
Jul 9th, 2006, 02:59 PM
The Anti-reflective coating may have been overkill for a pair of sunglasses, but I figured with a dark tint, I didn't want to be seeing the reflection of my eyeball on the inside of the glasses on really bright days.

I think that the AR coating is a good idea for sunglasses too, as it will allow more light to pass through the lens rather than bouncing off...this improves the visibility, especially if you have a dark tint.

Conky
Jul 9th, 2006, 04:15 PM
the best way to get your P.D. is to ask your eye doctor when you get your prescription. Just tell them you'd prefer to have it done by a professional just to be sure.

mine did it no problems . took a few seconds and wrote it down on the prescription

firefly!
Jul 9th, 2006, 04:51 PM
Hey Conky, I did ask the eye doctor but she said you have to purchase eyeglasses from her place first.

joe friday
Jul 9th, 2006, 06:23 PM
Hey Conky, I did ask the eye doctor but she said you have to purchase eyeglasses from her place first.

I'd get another eye doctor. That's just wrong.

M@rk
Jul 9th, 2006, 07:01 PM
I'm having trouble finding an optician to measure my P.D. so I can purchase glasses online. Question: are opticians allowed to coerce the consumer in this fashion by providing the P.D. measurement only if you purchase eyeglasses from him or her? I also noticed that even when you had already purchased eyeglasses or contacts, the optician will not disclose your P.D. to you. I'm sure many will agree with me when I state that this practice is quite unethical. Why not just charge a fee for the P.D. measurement without tying it to a purchase? Does anyone know a place in GVR where I can get my P.D. from an optician who won't try to infuriate the consumer with unwanted peddling?

It's totally not fair for you to expect an optician to measure your PD, I doubt you'd find ANY place that will do it for you. Optical stores are a business like any other, not a public health clinic... by asking them to do your PD, it's like telling them you want to exploit them for their services and then purchase from their competitor.

Besides, what if you come back 2 weeks later and blame them for measuring your PD wrong?

m00j
Jul 9th, 2006, 08:20 PM
my optomotrist gave me my PD measurement, however i was on my SECOND pair of glasses from him...so i dont know if he would give it w/o a purhcase?!

Coolme
Jul 10th, 2006, 12:16 AM
It's totally not fair for you to expect an optician to measure your PD, I doubt you'd find ANY place that will do it for you. Optical stores are a business like any other, not a public health clinic... by asking them to do your PD, it's like telling them you want to exploit them for their services and then purchase from their competitor.

Besides, what if you come back 2 weeks later and blame them for measuring your PD wrong?

From the conversations earlier, what I understand is firefly! (Great TV series! BTW) got his/her prescription from his/her optometrist who happens to sell glasses, and the optometrist refused to give firefly!'s PD unless he/she makes a purchase. Which in my opinion is wrong, it's like going to a chiropractor who refuses to measure your height after a therapy session.

joe friday
Jul 10th, 2006, 11:03 AM
It's totally not fair for you to expect an optician to measure your PD, I doubt you'd find ANY place that will do it for you. Optical stores are a business like any other, not a public health clinic... by asking them to do your PD, it's like telling them you want to exploit them for their services and then purchase from their competitor.

Besides, what if you come back 2 weeks later and blame them for measuring your PD wrong?
The mistake that a lot of people seem to be making is going to an optometrist who is associated with an eyeglass business. Why would you do that? Of course they are going to try and push you into their store.

Go to an independent optometrist who isn't associated with any other business. Otherwise, it's like asking the guy at the tire store where to buy tires...do you really think he's going to recommend the other tire store down the street?

I want my optometrist to be worried about MY eyes, not about HIS business.

holymoly
Jul 10th, 2006, 02:32 PM
the best way to get your P.D. is to ask your eye doctor when you get your prescription. Just tell them you'd prefer to have it done by a professional just to be sure.

mine did it no problems . took a few seconds and wrote it down on the prescription

Same here -- I asked her to write down the PD with the other info while she was determining my prescription, and she did so. I paid for the check-up but didn't buy glasses from her office (they have a small display of frames.) In fact, I told her I was planning to buy a pair online. As you can imagine, that generated some lively discussion.

aquariaguy
Jul 10th, 2006, 02:41 PM
huh? It doesn't matter where you go, if you didn't get "service" at the store, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't want to give you the PD. Optometrist, optician, no difference, unless you got your eyes checked at the optometrist, or unless you're getting glases at the optician.

This is the same as dentistry, pharmacy etc... Competition is tough.

The mistake that a lot of people seem to be making is going to an optometrist who is associated with an eyeglass business. Why would you do that? Of course they are going to try and push you into their store.

Go to an independent optician who isn't associated with any other business. Otherwise, it's like asking the guy at the tire store where to buy tires...do you really think he's going to recommend the other tire store down the street?

I want my optician to be worried about MY eyes, not about HIS business.

joe friday
Jul 10th, 2006, 10:07 PM
huh? It doesn't matter where you go, if you didn't get "service" at the store, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't want to give you the PD. Optometrist, optician, no difference, unless you got your eyes checked at the optometrist, or unless you're getting glases at the optician.

This is the same as dentistry, pharmacy etc... Competition is tough.

I don't understand your point. What I'm saying is I don't think that it's wise to get your eyes checked by someone who is selling glasses, or associated with a business that is (e.g. gets a fee for referrals for example). Of course they don't want to help you buy elsewhere. I get my eye tests done by someone who is completely independent, and that way I know that he/she has no other vested interest. If I want the PD taken and given to me at the same time, why wouldn't they?

In fact, as you can see from some of the other posts, that is exactly what people are experiencing.

firefly!
Jul 11th, 2006, 12:55 AM
It's totally not fair for you to expect an optician to measure your PD, I doubt you'd find ANY place that will do it for you. Optical stores are a business like any other, not a public health clinic... by asking them to do your PD, it's like telling them you want to exploit them for their services and then purchase from their competitor.

Besides, what if you come back 2 weeks later and blame them for measuring your PD wrong?

Hello all, thanks for all your helpful responses! Mark, I have trouble following your reasoning here. An ophthalmologist has to provide you with a documented prescription, correct? If they provide you with a wrong reading, do you expect anyone would blame the consumer? Why should it be any different with doing a P.D. measurement? Anyhow, there is a risk to every business - this is simply more pronounced in the medical profession.

Incompetence must be held accountable. Now, to deal with mistakes on the consumer's part: why not just have the optician fax the measurement directly to the eyeglass retailer of choice? That would mitigate risks of exploitative consumers. Again, let me reiterate: I am willing to pay a fee to have my P.D. taken. I understand that eye opticians need to make a livelihood too. So, how is what I'm asserting not fair? If anything, what is unfair is the manner in which opticians tie this P.D. service conditionally to a purchase. In some cases, some still refuse to divulge this information to their existing customers.

Pardon me if I did not understand your argument; my ignorance awaits your enlightenment.

firefly!
Jul 11th, 2006, 12:59 AM
The mistake that a lot of people seem to be making is going to an optometrist who is associated with an eyeglass business. Why would you do that? Of course they are going to try and push you into their store.

Go to an independent optometrist who isn't associated with any other business. Otherwise, it's like asking the guy at the tire store where to buy tires...do you really think he's going to recommend the other tire store down the street?

I want my optometrist to be worried about MY eyes, not about HIS business.

Hey Joe,

Yes, I was thinking along the same lines. It's difficult to find an independant optometrist. Can you recommend one in GVR?

joe friday
Jul 11th, 2006, 08:33 AM
Hey Joe,

Yes, I was thinking along the same lines. It's difficult to find an independant optometrist. Can you recommend one in GVR?

Sorry, wish I could help. I'm in eastern Ontario. You're right, it is difficult. I was fortunate in finding the one I use and I've stuck with him for the last 10 years.

bchow
Jul 11th, 2006, 02:10 PM
Hey Joe,

Yes, I was thinking along the same lines. It's difficult to find an independant optometrist. Can you recommend one in GVR?


Hi,

I would personally recommend Dr. Lee on East Hastings. His office is between Main and Gore. I have been his patient since the late 80s.

I went for a checkup about 3 years ago, and it costed me $50. He does sell glasses, but it's a small section of his office, and he does not pressure you to buy his glasses.

Here is a previous discussion about Dr. Lee:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247399&highlight=lee+hastings

tanny
Jul 12th, 2006, 06:36 PM
whew, even tho i had my vision checked less than a yr ago, after reading thru 55 pages (!!!) maybe i should have them checked again lol

i was playing soccer a couple of days ago with some friends and (stupid me) i had my glasses on... took a header that dipped on me and... snapped the bridge of my glasses :( the lenses are still good, and my glasses are framless (the sides are fine) but the bridge is destroyed... i guess i have to go get a new "frame" but... i dunno, do you guys have any advice?

i ordered a pair from optical4less just now tho, i hope that works out

holymoly
Jul 12th, 2006, 11:54 PM
I went for a checkup about 3 years ago, and it costed me $50.

My checkup in Toronto this month was $95. It's ridiculous that it isn't covered by OHIP/Medicare.

vonteego
Jul 13th, 2006, 12:12 AM
whew, even tho i had my vision checked less than a yr ago, after reading thru 55 pages (!!!) maybe i should have them checked again lol

i was playing soccer a couple of days ago with some friends and (stupid me) i had my glasses on... took a header that dipped on me and... snapped the bridge of my glasses :( the lenses are still good, and my glasses are framless (the sides are fine) but the bridge is destroyed... i guess i have to go get a new "frame" but... i dunno, do you guys have any advice?

i ordered a pair from optical4less just now tho, i hope that works out

I bought a pair of regular presciption glassses and prescription sunglasses from optical4less and I LOVE them. Absolutely perfect. Don't fret! :)

Coolme
Jul 14th, 2006, 08:39 PM
Hello all, thanks for all your helpful responses! Mark, I have trouble following your reasoning here. An ophthalmologist has to provide you with a documented prescription, correct? If they provide you with a wrong reading, do you expect anyone would blame the consumer? Why should it be any different with doing a P.D. measurement? Anyhow, there is a risk to every business - this is simply more pronounced in the medical profession.

Incompetence must be held accountable. Now, to deal with mistakes on the consumer's part: why not just have the optician fax the measurement directly to the eyeglass retailer of choice? That would mitigate risks of exploitative consumers. Again, let me reiterate: I am willing to pay a fee to have my P.D. taken. I understand that eye opticians need to make a livelihood too. So, how is what I'm asserting not fair? If anything, what is unfair is the manner in which opticians tie this P.D. service conditionally to a purchase. In some cases, some still refuse to divulge this information to their existing customers.

Pardon me if I did not understand your argument; my ignorance awaits your enlightenment.

well said. Though I do want to mention that I got my prescription (including P.D.) measured from an optometrist who sells glasses and contacts. And I got my P.D. without a hitch, maybe it was because I didn't mention about getting glasses online.

oceans_end
Jul 16th, 2006, 11:30 AM
LOL they will give you the same service if you buy glasses from them or not, i cant believe ppl are having this conversation :rolleyes:

advantage21
Jul 16th, 2006, 04:53 PM
Ppl are getting to bent up over the PD. It's not that important, just use the average PD of 64 would be fine, or measure it yourself in the mirror. You can be off by 4-5 mm and still wouldn't affect your vision.

joe friday
Jul 16th, 2006, 08:19 PM
LOL they will give you the same service if you buy glasses from them or not, i cant believe ppl are having this conversation :rolleyes:

Well apparently that's not correct, which is why people ARE having this conversation.

azure
Jul 17th, 2006, 07:30 AM
I have to buy new glasses too. Do you guys think it would be worth it to buy a couple of pairs from here than to buy an expensive pair? also.... how thick would they be? I have the thin lenses in mine right now. tia!

m00j
Jul 17th, 2006, 09:26 AM
I have to buy new glasses too. Do you guys think it would be worth it to buy a couple of pairs from here than to buy an expensive pair? also.... how thick would they be? I have the thin lenses in mine right now. tia!


i think for the price its worth it, for around 60 i got a pair, and a pair of sunglasses! Regular would have cost me around 400 MIN...I dont think the lenses will be thick to the point where it will interfere with your vision?!

holymoly
Jul 18th, 2006, 06:30 PM
I just received my glasses from goggles4u and I'm pleased except for one major problem: I ordered transition lenses and these aren't transitioning. I wore them outdoors in full sun for 45 minutes, then left them outside in almost full sun for over an hour, and no go.

brandnew
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:08 PM
have not received it yet. i also ordered 2 pairs from Zennioptical, just high-index. all are excellent.



I just received my glasses from goggles4u and I'm pleased except for one major problem: I ordered transition lenses and these aren't transitioning. I wore them outdoors in full sun for 45 minutes, then left them outside in almost full sun for over an hour, and no go.

nacho113
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:34 PM
I just received my glasses from goggles4u and I'm pleased except for one major problem: I ordered transition lenses and these aren't transitioning. I wore them outdoors in full sun for 45 minutes, then left them outside in almost full sun for over an hour, and no go.
Does your confirmation email show the Transition lenses? Or did you ask for anything special with the lenses, like Tint as well as the Transistion? Just asking because that's what I ordered with my first pair of transitions from them (Transition glass with a light tint). They shipped a pair with plastic light tinted lenses without the transition glass because they said that they cannot do both Transition and Tint on the same lens.
If nothing out of the ordinary was ordered, I'd send them an email, they have sent you the wrong lenses.
Just an FYI: I have 2 pairs of transition lenses from Goggles4u and there is a slight tint to them inside the house (maybe 10 or 15%) and they darken quite quickly in bright sunlight, maybe 30 seconds to full tint (which is about 70%)

nacho113
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:40 PM
Goggles4u's customer service is top notch. The first pair I ordered was shipped incorrectly as my post above. I emailed them and they explained about the mixup and had me pick out a new pair of frames and they sent me another pair with the Transition lenses and told me to donate the others to my local eyeglass bank.

azure
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:49 PM
sorry for my ignorance...but what is a pd?

JimG
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:50 PM
I'm interested in getting a pair of transitions, but I've heard that while becoming dark is pretty quick, it can take a long time for thte lenses to become clear again. Can someone provide some feedback on the transitions from Goggles4U on this issue?

nacho113
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:54 PM
sorry for my ignorance...but what is a pd?
Pupil Distance, distance from the center of one pupil to the center of the other . The glases will be made so that the lenses will have there focal center lined up with your pupils.

nacho113
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:03 PM
I'm interested in getting a pair of transitions, but I've heard that while becoming dark is pretty quick, it can take a long time for thte lenses to become clear again. Can someone provide some feedback on the transitions from Goggles4U on this issue?
They do take longer to change back, but mine (from Goggles4u) lighten back to 30-40% within about the same 30 seconds, but it seems to take a minute or more before they are back to there normal (which is a slight 10-15% tint). Also I find that if I go into one of the Big Box stores with lots of lighting (like Superstore or Wal-mart), they will stay at 30-40 % tint (probably UV emissions from the lighting)
One more thing, if you are planning on wearing these to drive with, the Transitions lighten up a lot inside the vehicle (almost back to there normal state) since the car windows block most of the UV light that makes the Transition effect work.

MikeNet
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:19 PM
I got my pair from goggles 4u and they seem to not have the anti-glare coating on. Did anybody order the glass transition pair with mutlitcoat and notice quite a bit of glare? I compared my regular glasses that had an AG coat and can see quite a bit of difference. It is as if there is no AG coat on these.

nacho113
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:39 PM
I got my pair from goggles 4u and they seem to not have the anti-glare coating on. Did anybody order the glass transition pair with mutlitcoat and notice quite a bit of glare? I compared my regular glasses that had an AG coat and can see quite a bit of difference. It is as if there is no AG coat on these.
My glass Transitions definately have more glare than my regular plastic (non-transition) lenses from Goggles4u, but they do seem to have some kind of AR protection since I can wear them with only some mild reflections. On the other hand, I have a pair of photogrey plastic that I purchased from Walmart last year and didn't get the AR coating and they are positively shiny reflective lenses. I cannot wear the ones from walmart because I see reflections from everywhere in them (very annoying especially since I paid over $200 for them)

holymoly
Jul 19th, 2006, 08:48 AM
Does your confirmation email show the Transition lenses? Or did you ask for anything special with the lenses, like Tint as well as the Transistion? Just asking because that's what I ordered with my first pair of transitions from them (Transition glass with a light tint). They shipped a pair with plastic light tinted lenses without the transition glass because they said that they cannot do both Transition and Tint on the same lens.
If nothing out of the ordinary was ordered, I'd send them an email, they have sent you the wrong lenses.
Just an FYI: I have 2 pairs of transition lenses from Goggles4u and there is a slight tint to them inside the house (maybe 10 or 15%) and they darken quite quickly in bright sunlight, maybe 30 seconds to full tint (which is about 70%)

Thanks for the info on your transition lenses, nacho113. It makes it even more obvious that mine are regular lenses! I ordered CR39 transitions without any added tint or other changes. The confirmation had the right info, and Goggles4u charged my card for transition lenses. I sent them an email -- I'll post their answer when it comes. I hope I don't have to ship this pair back...that would be really irritating... so I'm glad to hear that you didn't have to send yours back.

BTW, the frame quality is good and so is the prescription. The packaging was good, too. (I didn't get the screwdriver. I did get a bright pink Fiorucci case.) Just that the lenses are wrong, and I paid for the more expensive ones.

andyp
Jul 19th, 2006, 09:25 AM
I've been following this thread for quite a while, but not religiously.

So, have we arrived at a consensus of who/what to order if you want sunglasses? ie. not photochromic, but just regular tinted lenses with full UV protection?

m00j
Jul 19th, 2006, 10:12 AM
I've been following this thread for quite a while, but not religiously.

So, have we arrived at a consensus of who/what to order if you want sunglasses? ie. not photochromic, but just regular tinted lenses with full UV protection?


CR39 lense (uv protection), with 100 percent BLACK TINT!

sterdeus
Jul 19th, 2006, 10:18 AM
CR39 lense (uv protection), with 100 percent BLACK TINT!

From previous posts, it was to my understanding that the glasses with tint from goggles4u didnt have uv protection. Unless you're refering to the supposed inherent protection CR39 has? And even then, I thought it only had UVB and not UVA protection? :?:

nacho113
Jul 19th, 2006, 11:14 AM
I've been following this thread for quite a while, but not religiously.

So, have we arrived at a consensus of who/what to order if you want sunglasses? ie. not photochromic, but just regular tinted lenses with full UV protection?
For sunglasses, Zenni Optical gets my vote, check thread# 800 a couple of pages back. http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3558262&postcount=800

andyp
Jul 19th, 2006, 11:16 AM
That's where I was leaning. Thanks Nacho...your posts have been quite valuable.

nacho113
Jul 19th, 2006, 11:42 AM
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3451/t904007if6.jpg
Here's a pic of my sunglasses from Zenni. Blue semi-rimless frame with 80% grey tint and Antiglare coating . Lenses are Polycarbonate (shatter resistant) and have full UV protection by default. Cost was $15.95 (frame +clear lens) + $4.95 (80% grey tint) + $4.90 (AR coating) = $25.80 + $9 shipping = $34.80 for full protection. Antiscratch coating is also included with all Zenni's glasses and the usual hard case and microfibre cleaning cloth.
The Anti-reflective coating may have been overkill for a pair of sunglasses, but I figured with a dark tint, I didn't want to be seeing the reflection of my eyeball on the inside of the glasses on really bright days.
Without the AR you'd be looking at $29.90 shipped, not too bad for a prescription pair of sunglasses with full UV protection (gives goggles4u a run for there money)


These are the frames I used since I wanted nice big sunglasses, but they have lots of frames in the $15.95 and $19.00 catagories and most frames come in several colours.
http://zennioptical.com/cart/product.php?productid=82&cat=20&page=1
http://zennioptical.com/cart/t_82.jpg

sonnislav
Jul 19th, 2006, 11:49 AM
sorry if this has been answered but what are the custom+taxes charges like?

nacho113
Jul 19th, 2006, 11:53 AM
sorry if this has been answered but what are the custom+taxes charges like?
So far I have ordered 6 pairs online ranging from a free pair from Specs-on-the-Net to a $100 pair of progressives with transition from Zenni and several pairs from Goggles4u in the $30 range and have never had to pay any duty or taxes. Prescription eyewear is supposed to be exempt, but there were a couple of people early on in this thread that reported being charged duty/tax and had to claim it back from the government.

holymoly
Jul 19th, 2006, 08:48 PM
I just received my glasses from goggles4u and I'm pleased except for one major problem: I ordered transition lenses and these aren't transitioning. I wore them outdoors in full sun for 45 minutes, then left them outside in almost full sun for over an hour, and no go.

To follow up on the quoted post... I heard back by email from goggles4u. They said I should check again to see if the glasses get dark, and that every pair is checked before it is shipped, and that I could return the glasses; they would refund the shipping.

These glasses definitely don't go dark! I don't want to keep them and pay around $60 for glasses that should cost under $30, but by the time I send them back to Pakistan and wait for a replacement pair with actual transition lenses to be produced, shipped and arrive, our short Canadian summer will be close to over. (Certainly my cottage holiday will be.)

m00j
Jul 20th, 2006, 03:49 PM
To follow up on the quoted post... I heard back by email from goggles4u. They said I should check again to see if the glasses get dark, and that every pair is checked before it is shipped, and that I could return the glasses; they would refund the shipping.

These glasses definitely don't go dark! I don't want to keep them and pay around $60 for glasses that should cost under $30, but by the time I send them back to Pakistan and wait for a replacement pair with actual transition lenses to be produced, shipped and arrive, our short Canadian summer will be close to over. (Certainly my cottage holiday will be.)

almost the same thing happened to me, they wont "send me a pair, and let me keep this one", they want me to ship it back, which will add another 2-3weeks to the time...i am extremely dissapointed, i think they are slipping :confused:

Intricated
Jul 20th, 2006, 04:01 PM
I ordered a pair of glasses from Goggles4u in mid-March, and they just gave me a headache whenever I wore them. I got the prescription checked, and it was off. Sent an e-mail to Goggles4u, and they were willing to refund my first order as soon as I ordered a replacement pair.

Got my prescription updated in early-July, and finally found a frame style I liked in my size. Ordered on July 7th, shipped out the 11th, and received on the 19th direct from Pakistan.

My credit card was credited for full purchase price of my first order (31.91 CAD) on the 10th, and the replacement pair costed 29.68 CAD (after PayPal did a currency exchange). So I got back $2.23 in 4 months thanks to the exchange rate!

Oh, and the new glasses are awesome. Frames are exactly as on the website, no scratches on the lenses, and the prescription is bang on. Would definitely purchase from Goggles4u again, especially for the exceptional customer service and 15% repeat purchase discount!

nacho113
Jul 22nd, 2006, 10:28 AM
almost the same thing happened to me, they wont "send me a pair, and let me keep this one", they want me to ship it back, which will add another 2-3weeks to the time...i am extremely dissapointed, i think they are slipping :confused:
I think it must depend who you are dealing with at Goggles4u (not that you can pick and choose with email support).
I received a pair of glasses from them in June that were a lot smaller than they showed on there website and I'm expecting the replacement pair soon. This is the response I got when I emailed them:

Dear Client,
We highly regret to hear that you are not satisfied with the glasses you have received.

Please select a new frame and let us have the product code by return email and we will send you a replacement pair.

Please note that you must select a halfrim or fullrim frame so that we can fit glass transition lenses.

Please feel free to contact us for further assistance.

Regards,

Sales and Support
www.goggles4u.com

m00j
Jul 22nd, 2006, 11:44 AM
I think it must depend who you are dealing with at Goggles4u (not that you can pick and choose with email support).
I received a pair of glasses from them in June that were a lot smaller than they showed on there website and I'm expecting the replacement pair soon. This is the response I got when I emailed them:

Dear Client,
We highly regret to hear that you are not satisfied with the glasses you have received.

Please select a new frame and let us have the product code by return email and we will send you a replacement pair.

Please note that you must select a halfrim or fullrim frame so that we can fit glass transition lenses.

Please feel free to contact us for further assistance.

Regards,

Sales and Support
www.goggles4u.com


did they let you ""donate"" the other pair?

TigerMM
Jul 22nd, 2006, 11:59 AM
So far I have ordered 6 pairs online ranging from a free pair from Specs-on-the-Net to a $100 pair of progressives with transition from Zenni and several pairs from Goggles4u in the $30 range and have never had to pay any duty or taxes. Prescription eyewear is supposed to be exempt, but there were a couple of people early on in this thread that reported being charged duty/tax and had to claim it back from the government.

since you have tried different places what do you think was your best ones? cool to have a comparison :)

nacho113
Jul 22nd, 2006, 12:45 PM
did they let you ""donate"" the other pair?
They didn't ask me to return the incorrect pair.

nacho113
Jul 22nd, 2006, 01:00 PM
since you have tried different places what do you think was your best ones? cool to have a comparison :)
The glasses from Goggles4u are all good quality glasses and the Rx was correct in all cases. In total have ordered 4 pairs from them, 2 pairs of Transitions, a pair of sunglasses and a regular clear pair (all single vision)However, I recieved a pair without the Transition lenses that I had ordered and they had me pick another frame and they sent me out the corrected glasses and told me to donate the incorrect ones. The most recent pair that I ordered from Goggles4u were listed as having a front length of 145mm, but when they arrived, the front length was only 130mm (way to small to even wear in a pinch). They are sending me out another pair, just waiting for them to arrive. They did not ask for me to send back the incorrect ones.
Overall satisfaction with Goggles4u is good. The product is nice, fit and finish is decent and the Rx seems to be right on for the items I have received. The glass transition lenses don't seem to be as good of a fit in the frames as the plastic lenses are (maybe easier to work with plastic than glass) and the edges on the glass lenses were not as smooth and polished as the plastic ones.
I would order from them again and have had a couple of my freinds order from them since seeing my purchases. The quality is good, but I see them more as a good backup pair to my regular glasses. If I was in a situation where my glasses could become damaged, I wouldn't mind so much if it was a $25-$30 pair, but I'd be crying if I smashed my $650 ones in a baseball game or something.

nacho113
Jul 22nd, 2006, 01:29 PM
since you have tried different places what do you think was your best ones? cool to have a comparison :)
Also I have purchased 2 pairs of glsses from Zenni Optical. One pair were Progressive lenses with the Transition grey Polycarbonate lenses, AR coating and 2 pairs of matching magnetic clipons. These cost $98, but rival my $650 glasses that I bought at my local optical store that I have been going to for years. The fit and finish is excellent. They are half-rim with polished edges and are very light to wear. I've actually started wearing these as my everyday glasses as I like them more than my $650 ones. Recently, in part due to the discussion in this thread about UV protection on sunglasses, I ordered a pair of single vision glasses which I had tinted 80% grey and had the AR coating applied also. Again, I am very impressed with Zenni's quality. These are half-rim frames (very light) with the Polycarbonate lenses (full UV protection). I was very impressed with these for just under $35 shipped for a really nice pair of Prescription sunglasses with AntiGlare, Antiscratch and full UV protection.

Also of note was a FREE pair of glasses that I ordered from Specs On The Net. I paid the extra 7 British Pounds for the sunglass tint and the 4 pounds for shipping (cost about $24cdn for the free glasses). Fit and finish was nice, but they were a pretty basic frame (but hey they were free). They sent me some 10% off coupons for future orders, which was a nice touch (I have 3 or 4 left if anyone was going to place an order with them, drop me a PM and I'll send you one of the coupon codes - but only if you're ready to place an order, might as well go to someone who is actually going to use it). I've checked out there selection, it's not bad and they have glasses starting from .9.99 Pounds ($20 range), but everthing is extra, coatings, tints, shipping. The AR coating is 14 pounds which has held me back from placing another order from them.

Not sure if these count as reviews, but if anyone is looking for more info on these online retailers, check the first page of this thread, or here's the link to the review page:
http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/index.htm

TigerMM
Jul 22nd, 2006, 01:49 PM
Also I have purchased 2 pairs of glsses from Zenni Optical. One pair were Progressive lenses with the Transition grey Polycarbonate lenses, AR coating and 2 pairs of matching magnetic clipons. These cost $98, but rival my $650 glasses that I bought at my local optical store that I have been going to for years. The fit and finish is excellent. They are half-rim with polished edges and are very light to wear. I've actually started wearing these as my everyday glasses as I like them more than my $650 ones. Recently, in part due to the discussion in this thread about UV protection on sunglasses, I ordered a pair of single vision glasses which I had tinted 80% grey and had the AR coating applied also. Again, I am very impressed with Zenni's quality. These are half-rim frames (very light) with the Polycarbonate lenses (full UV protection). I was very impressed with these for just under $35 shipped for a really nice pair of Prescription sunglasses with AntiGlare, Antiscratch and full UV protection.

Also of note was a FREE pair of glasses that I ordered from Specs On The Net. I paid the extra 7 British Pounds for the sunglass tint and the 4 pounds for shipping (cost about $24cdn for the free glasses). Fit and finish was nice, but they were a pretty basic frame (but hey they were free). They sent me some 10% off coupons for future orders, which was a nice touch (I have 3 or 4 left if anyone was going to place an order with them, drop me a PM and I'll send you one of the coupon codes - but only if you're ready to place an order, might as well go to someone who is actually going to use it). I've checked out there selection, it's not bad and they have glasses starting from .9.99 Pounds ($20 range), but everthing is extra, coatings, tints, shipping. The AR coating is 14 pounds which has held me back from placing another order from them.

Not sure if these count as reviews, but if anyone is looking for more info on these online retailers, check the first page of this thread, or here's the link to the review page:
http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/index.htm

thanks! I think I'm going to get a new prescription and try Zenni, their frame selection is impressive, do you remember what shipping is to canada, they only have US shipping listed?

edit: nevermind I found it $9 canada shipping

the watcher
Jul 23rd, 2006, 10:09 PM
thanks! I think I'm going to get a new prescription and try Zenni, their frame selection is impressive, do you remember what shipping is to canada, they only have US shipping listed?

edit: nevermind I found it $9 canada shipping


ordered my 2nd pair from goggles4u today, we'll see how it goes.
is it normal that my order is already at "awaiting shipment" just a few hours after my order?

holymoly
Jul 24th, 2006, 08:37 AM
almost the same thing happened to me, they wont "send me a pair, and let me keep this one", they want me to ship it back, which will add another 2-3weeks to the time...i am extremely dissapointed, i think they are slipping :confused:

I asked them for the shipping address so I could return mine, and I've been waiting four days for a reply. (I could send it to the address on the cloth bag, but I think they have a US address too, don't they?) They used to be so prompt in replying to emails.

Moot
Jul 24th, 2006, 10:02 PM
Finally received my replacement pair from goggles4u. I had to make a slight adjustment to the nose piece, but otherwise they are perfect. :cheesygri I will definitely make a future order with them.

nacho113
Jul 24th, 2006, 11:03 PM
I asked them for the shipping address so I could return mine, and I've been waiting four days for a reply. (I could send it to the address on the cloth bag, but I think they have a US address too, don't they?) They used to be so prompt in replying to emails.
I would send them another email and ask if they could cross-ship to save time. Ask them if they could send out your new ones while you send back the old. They may want you to pay upfront then get the credit back when they receive the old ones back. (try sending it from your email program instead of there html page, that way you will have a running account of the whole transaction.)
Sounds to me like they may be checking up on there own quality control if they want the old ones shipped back.

superpal3
Jul 25th, 2006, 04:59 AM
Well I see Googles4U seems to have some happy customers...

Unfortunately the rimless progressives I ordered don't seem to be the right prescription...just can't see clearly out of them on most of the lenses except for a small space on the bottom. Even that is not very good.

Also they drilled and cut the hole in the lenses for one of the arms at a bad angle, as in it is different from the other side so you have to bend the metal arm on one side to make the glasses sit evenly on your face...that can be a problem with rimless generally unless the lenses cutters are really careful.

They have responded quickly with sympathy...but haven't offered to refund them...their policy is not for a full refund from what I read on their website anyway...

My order has not worked out... :(

I'm wondering if progressives need to have more height than 30mm....maybe that is the distortion...I need 140mm wide or bigger and these were the only rimless that wide...had to take 'em that narrow...otherwise I would have liked bigger. Zenni lets you chose your lense height, their glasses cost more dollars though. These Googles4U ones cost me about $68Cdn...so far anyway wasted.

Weirdest thing...they got no paper in Pakistan...lol...you get your glasses shipped in like a sewn up pillow case...yeah...thats the packaging, they write your address on the cloth and it is hand sewn shut...sheeit !...very third world...just shows you...each society uses what is most economic...guess they have lots of cotton mills...but no trees for pulp. Just really weird to get something packaged that way...

gacomeau1
Jul 25th, 2006, 08:13 AM
I ordered a pair of transition glasses from goggles4u on July 7, they were shipped on July 15 and they arrived on July 24. I had just gotten a new pair of $400 glasses locally, so I ordered these more out of curiosity than necessity. The total came to $28.50 USD which includes shipping. I applied the 5% discount code to my order.

A few things to take note of. I didn't want to pay an extra $30 for CR39 transition material, so I got the transition glass lenses. I knew they would be a bit heavier, but I guess I'm not used to this much weight. For those who haven't worn glass lenses in a while, they are noticeably heavier. You should consider spending the extra $30 for CR39 lenses if you're choosing transition lenses.

Also, the frames look much better online than they do on my face. I guess that's a risk you take when you can't try them on. My first instinct was to immediately order another pair because they're so cheap, but then would I really be saving any money? I don't need a third pair of glasses.

The transition lenses work perfectly, they begin to darken immediately while outdoors. I still haven't been able to adjust the nose pads for the best fit and comfort, but I'm sure I can work that out. The frames are very solid and well built. Someone would be hard pressed to tell the different between the goggles4u frames and a pair purchased at a traditional B&M store. The prescription is perfect.

Overall, I'm happy with the glasses and I would order again. But not glass lenses and I would be more careful about choosing a frame that I like.

holymoly
Jul 26th, 2006, 12:23 PM
I would send them another email and ask if they could cross-ship to save time. Ask them if they could send out your new ones while you send back the old. They may want you to pay upfront then get the credit back when they receive the old ones back. (try sending it from your email program instead of there html page, that way you will have a running account of the whole transaction.)
Sounds to me like they may be checking up on there own quality control if they want the old ones shipped back.

Thanks nacho113.

They finally got back to me with the Pakistan shipping address. This time they said that, if I prefer, they could refund the additional amount for transition instead of me sending the glasses back. I decided to go that route, and to order another pair (same frame, transition lenses.) Even though it means I'll have bought an extra pair, I'd rather do that than deal with the shipping and the wait. At least the 15% off should apply on the second pair.

nacho113
Jul 26th, 2006, 11:18 PM
They finally got back to me with the Pakistan shipping address. This time they said that, if I prefer, they could refund the additional amount for transition instead of me sending the glasses back. I decided to go that route, and to order another pair (same frame, transition lenses.) Even though it means I'll have bought an extra pair, I'd rather do that than deal with the shipping and the wait. At least the 15% off should apply on the second pair.
Sometimes it's nice to have an extra pair or 2, adds a little style to your look. You don't wear the same shirt and pants everyday and you dress differently depending on the situation and your mood, why not have that second or third pair of glasses to change things up. That's one of the reasons I have 4 pairs from goggles4u, they sometimes have some unique frames - not the same old - same old ya know.

hankscorpio
Jul 26th, 2006, 11:20 PM
Sometimes it's nice to have an extra pair or 2, adds a little style to your look. Do you not find it gives you eye-strain? I find every pair I have is different, even if they have the same prescription, and switching them up gives me a wicked headache.

nacho113
Jul 26th, 2006, 11:35 PM
Do you not find it gives you eye-strain? I find every pair I have is different, even if they have the same prescription, and switching them up gives me a wicked headache.
No, the only issue I have is that I have 2 pairs with progressive lenses and I really hate them (never really got used to the distortions outside the focal corridor and I still find going down stairs a real treat even though I've been wearing them for 2 years now), but I just can't do my paperwork without the extra plus power. As my eyedoctor says, "my eye's are getting more mature now" She's so nice! (I like her) Just means I'm getting old and my eyes are going to s&*t.
I've never had issues with changing back and forth, unless I forget to take my progressives to work with me and have to do all my paperwork with my single vision glasses - then I get a headache.
I do like having a nice big pair of sunglasses again, I hate these little small lenses that are popular today with clipons. The lenses are so small that the light just comes in from around the sides and you can't see out through the lenses anyway.

khattab
Jul 27th, 2006, 12:25 AM
Do you not find it gives you eye-strain? I find every pair I have is different, even if they have the same prescription, and switching them up gives me a wicked headache.


true to some extent for me, for me i see that it takes longer for my eyes to adjust to a new prescription, more like 2-3 days...

Steeve Urkel
Jul 27th, 2006, 02:46 AM
Sometimes it's nice to have an extra pair or 2, adds a little style to your look. You don't wear the same shirt and pants everyday and you dress differently depending on the situation and your mood, why not have that second or third pair of glasses to change things up. That's one of the reasons I have 4 pairs from goggles4u, they sometimes have some unique frames - not the same old - same old ya know.

2 or 3 pairs of eyeglasses??

i think I have at least 6 so far.... :D :lol: :lol:

nacho113
Jul 27th, 2006, 11:39 PM
2 or 3 pairs of eyeglasses??

i think I have at least 6 so far.... :D :lol: :lol:
Kind of addictive isn't it!
I like being able to choose something different each day. Including my original "boring" pair, I have 8 pairs in total.
Lately I find myself checking out Goggles4u website once or twice a week to see if they have any new cool frames in my size
...... It's like eating Pringles potato chips.....once you start you just can't stop ;)

dmxlite
Jul 28th, 2006, 02:46 AM
Has anyone tried http://www.myopticalshop.com?
Anyone know anye codes for that site?

I'm trying to find shops that have thin lenses (1.6 and up) and does tinting. So far, Optical4less can do it, but they charge extra for it. MyOpticalShop does it too, and they're from HK as well. They also have an ebay store.

Any comments on this one?

holymoly
Aug 1st, 2006, 07:05 PM
Placed my second order with Goggles4u on July 26th, and they shipped today, August 1. Fast! Here's hoping the mail is, too. And that this time the transition lenses actually transition, unlike the last pair.

Edited: had written July 16; it was the 26th.

rks
Aug 1st, 2006, 11:21 PM
Recieved my order from Zenni Optical. You can't beat the value !!!

RKS

tjuzer
Aug 2nd, 2006, 02:46 AM
So out of all shop which is best?

Bonzi
Aug 2nd, 2006, 04:35 PM
I'm looking for buy prescription glasses with a sunglass look.

Could someone explain to me what transitional lens are? Do they darken to a sunglass type dark?

Should I just go with the tint?
Which website is best for me to buy these? I'm thinking of goggles4u since I won't be wearing them all the time.

runamuck
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:09 PM
good reviews guys...i'll be looking at placing an order sometime soon

cheers

holymoly
Aug 2nd, 2006, 06:51 PM
I'm looking for buy prescription glasses with a sunglass look.

Could someone explain to me what transitional lens are? Do they darken to a sunglass type dark?

Should I just go with the tint?
Which website is best for me to buy these? I'm thinking of goggles4u since I won't be wearing them all the time.

If you read back you'll find lots of discussion about sunglasses versus transition lenses -- yes, transition lenses are the ones that darken in the sunlight. At Goggles4u, the transition lenses include UV coating, whereas the tinted/sunglasses lenses don't. Some people say you don't need the coating since the lenses themselves have inherent UV protection. Personally, I went for the transition lenses from Goggles4u, partially to get the UV coating and partially for the convenience of not having to change glasses when I go outside.

mikeswallow
Aug 2nd, 2006, 06:56 PM
for PD I called the last place I bought glasses from and asked them. It was 5 years ago, do you think that this changes? I'm still wearing that pair of glasses..weak but there doesn't seem to be any other problems with them.


Old perscription: -4.25
New perscription: -5

tjuzer
Aug 2nd, 2006, 07:03 PM
So out of all shop which is best?

Can someone tell please? My english not good and it take me day to understand thread.

Bonzi
Aug 2nd, 2006, 10:50 PM
Can someone tell please? My english not good and it take me day to understand thread.

You can't really say which one is best. There is a site that reviews each site earlier in this thread.

duster
Aug 3rd, 2006, 01:10 AM
Can someone tell please? My english not good and it take me day to understand thread.


Que veux-tu savoir exactement? Je peux peut-être aider...

Il n'y a pas vraiment de "gagnant"...tout dépend de ta prescription (donc de l'éventuel besoin en verres à haut index pour ne pas avoir de "fonds de bouteilles" par exemple), du choix de monture (Goggles4u a la meilleure variété à bas prix), du budget et des extras (traitements UV, anti-reflet, etc...parfois inclus, parfois un surcoût dépendemment du site).

Pour le prix, le choix de montures au même prix et les "extras" inclus, Goggles4u sort grand gagnant pour moi. Mais le problème est qu'ils n'offrent aucunes possibilités d'avoir des verres à haut index (1.56 et rien de plus si ma mémoire est bonne...) donc si t'as une prescription de 4 et plus, t'es bon pour des verres assez épais et ils ne sont plus le meilleur choix.


Donc, commence par expliquer tes besoins et tes gouts, ensuite donne ta prescription pour avoir une idée.
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Sorry guys for this french interlude. I actually hope "My english not good" means he's speaking french... :confused:

SpYcho
Aug 3rd, 2006, 01:48 AM
Can someone tell please? My english not good and it take me day to understand thread.

As mentioned, there is really no "the best shop". It depends on what you're looking for. Is your biggest concern the price, or the quality? What type of glasses do you want? Transitional? Normal prescription? Sunglasses? Do you want special coatings? or do you have special prescription?

I understand that your english may not be very good, but try to go through the reviews given and decide what you want.

Or perhaps let us know what kind of glasses you are looking for, and then we'll give you more suggestions regarding the shops.

I hope the english I've used is not too difficult for you. My english level is probably around a grade 5s. :cheesygri Hope you understand everything I've just said.

holymoly
Aug 4th, 2006, 11:55 AM
for PD I called the last place I bought glasses from and asked them. It was 5 years ago, do you think that this changes?

I doubt it changes, except in youngsters who are still growing. It's the distance between your pupils, so once your head gets as big as it's gonna get, I expect your PD is set for life.

duster
Aug 7th, 2006, 02:07 AM
Has anyone tried http://www.myopticalshop.com?
Anyone know anye codes for that site?

I'm trying to find shops that have thin lenses (1.6 and up) and does tinting. So far, Optical4less can do it, but they charge extra for it. MyOpticalShop does it too, and they're from HK as well. They also have an ebay store.

Any comments on this one?

What about the shipping there?

dmxlite
Aug 7th, 2006, 02:34 AM
It seems to be $8 USD airmail, or $19 USD for EMS.

ahDan
Aug 7th, 2006, 03:28 AM
i order an pair of glasses from Goggles4u ...... i choose that one cuz of the cost (30 bucks canadian....that's cheap).....

i have high presciption (-8.00 both eyes) and the other online stores charges more due to the high prescription as i have select thinner lenes

anyways, i got my pair of glasses after ~3 weeks, somehow the frame looks more "toy-like" than the pic on its website, but...that's still fine! prescription wise, they are bang on, or at least close enough that doesn't give me an headache. However, i have to say that the lenes were poorly made! the lenes don't follow the curvture of the frame as some parts of the lenes were sticking out and it seems like lenes are "glue-ed" on to the frame rather than screwed tight!

but overall, $30 bucks, i can't complaint much as i have added a tint since they will serve as driving sunglasses

therefore, if i were to choose for normal pair, for those who have high prescription, Goggles4u might not be the best solution to go for!

superpal3
Aug 7th, 2006, 06:21 AM
Well, the first pair I ordered came within 3 weeks and they looked good but the presciption wasn't right on most of the lense.

I ordered a no-line standard Bi-focal / Vari-focal. The frame was fashionable and good quality. My finished price $69 Cdn.

Anyway, they had me order another pair with a lense height greater than 32mm this time...they are sending me a new pair. They say that if the customer is not satisfied they will replace them. :)

Glad I'm not in a hurry. I guess thats a good price. The same thing at Skyworld Optical on Main Street in Vancouver is $150 Cdn. They get the prescription right though.

Cheerio !

holymoly
Aug 10th, 2006, 07:50 PM
bump

Still a great deal.

brandnew
Aug 11th, 2006, 07:08 PM
ordered the transition CR39 high index with transition brown. but actually the received does not have any transition.

can i have an exchange?

brandnew
Aug 11th, 2006, 07:10 PM
no transition lens with high index


If you read back you'll find lots of discussion about sunglasses versus transition lenses -- yes, transition lenses are the ones that darken in the sunlight. At Goggles4u, the transition lenses include UV coating, whereas the tinted/sunglasses lenses don't. Some people say you don't need the coating since the lenses themselves have inherent UV protection. Personally, I went for the transition lenses from Goggles4u, partially to get the UV coating and partially for the convenience of not having to change glasses when I go outside.

hankscorpio
Aug 11th, 2006, 07:39 PM
ordered the transition CR39 high index with transition brown. but actually the received does not have any transition.

can i have an exchange?
Of course. Contact them and tell them the problem.

shawn99
Aug 16th, 2006, 04:20 PM
do the transisitions work well? as in, indoors they stay completely clear.

brandnew
Aug 16th, 2006, 05:15 PM
anyone are lucky to have it exchanged or refund for the difference?



Of course. Contact them and tell them the problem.

brandnew
Aug 20th, 2006, 01:56 PM
anyone are lucky to have it exchanged or refund for the difference?.

ringdingbing
Aug 22nd, 2006, 10:54 AM
ordering my 3rd pair of glasses.. hot deal ..

from goggles4u and repeat customer.. with coupon code from the site. equal less than 25$canadian for a pair of glasses..

Con: .. mail man thinks the package is a bomb.. because it's from pakistan.

shawn99
Aug 22nd, 2006, 11:17 AM
sorry I can't be bothered to read the long pages of this thread what is the coupon code?

My optical store wants me to pay 60 bucks for antiglare, UV and Scratch Free Coating. What a joke!

coriolis
Aug 22nd, 2006, 11:21 AM
do the transisitions work well? as in, indoors they stay completely clear.

They are somwhat tinted, as the transition to a dark tint takes very little time, but the transition back will take quite a while. They stay lightly tinted afterwards, but will be clear in like 20-30 minutes.

R3V
Aug 22nd, 2006, 12:09 PM
There is a coupon code of dv302 for additional 5% off


sorry I can't be bothered to read the long pages of this thread what is the coupon code?

My optical store wants me to pay 60 bucks for antiglare, UV and Scratch Free Coating. What a joke!

nacho113
Aug 23rd, 2006, 10:59 AM
From the OPs original post, there is some great info on several of these online stores and some discount coupons posted at http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/index.htm
It really is worth a look.

moneybags
Aug 24th, 2006, 04:28 AM
does anyone have any comments on Frames Direct (http://framesdirect.com)? they sell designer brands that i can try on physically at the mall. in fact, i've tried on a pair that i'd like to order.

Vicam
Aug 24th, 2006, 04:53 AM
http://www.eyebuydirect.com has even lower prices... Cheapest glasses go for $14.95 which includes frame&lens.

I also got a free coupon that gives you 5% off :-0

Coupon Code: neweyes

You enter the code when you are at the check out screen.

They have great service and VERY fast delivery.

Daijoubu
Aug 24th, 2006, 09:45 AM
http://www.eyebuydirect.com has even lower prices... Cheapest glasses go for $14.95 which includes frame&lens.

I also got a free coupon that gives you 5% off :-0

Coupon Code: neweyes

You enter the code when you are at the check out screen.

They have great service and VERY fast delivery.
lol, you registered to post this? Are you real? :D

Edit: Nice sun glasse though!

Vicam
Aug 24th, 2006, 11:14 AM
Why not? They have good deals. =P

nounou23
Aug 24th, 2006, 11:50 AM
lol, you registered to post this? Are you real? :D

Edit: Nice sun glasse though!

I cannot believe someone would say this to another user. What do you expect when someone register? I see why you did.....

Anyway I just do not understand why you wrote that.

He posted a good deal...

Thank you

Daijoubu
Aug 24th, 2006, 01:57 PM
Well there's a *slight* chance he's advertising for his own site

dmxlite
Aug 24th, 2006, 02:18 PM
Edit: Nice sun glasse though!

From the enlarged pictures of the sport glasses, it seems there are two lenses??? The outer one is the tinted plastic, and the inner one (the oval frame) are the prescription lenses. If that's true, it's just like a permanent clip-on, and it would be a total waste of money if you ordered UV protection, anti-reflective, and tint coating on the prescription lens.

Daijoubu
Aug 24th, 2006, 04:12 PM
If you want a better explanation, visit optical4less.com
They also have clipon sunglasse (uglier)

dmxlite
Aug 24th, 2006, 07:31 PM
Optical4Less doesn't have these styles.... and I think those are the clip-ins.

http://www.eyebuydirect.com/sp003.html
I see now, this one is actually a flip design, so the sunglasses lense flips up... however they don't mention anything about these ones:
http://www.eyebuydirect.com/sp001.html
It doesn't say clip in, or on, so it looks like a Revo lens infront of your prescription one.

The clip-ins are a neat idea, but I don't mind tinting if I can find a good looking frame.

Vicam
Aug 24th, 2006, 11:30 PM
I'm not too sure... but it looks like as if the prescription lens in built into the frame.

Jin-n-Juice
Aug 25th, 2006, 08:19 PM
Just wondering if anyone bought glasses online and tried to claim it for their company group benefits?

one-cheap-guy
Aug 25th, 2006, 10:39 PM
Just wondering if anyone bought glasses online and tried to claim it for their company group benefits?

Yes. No problems. Just printed copy of credit card charge.

Bonzi
Aug 26th, 2006, 09:37 AM
Got my transition glasses yesterday from goggles4u.

Aside form the shape of the lens being weird, they are also crooked. Also, they cannot compare to the ones I bought from the store. There are so many imperferfections.

Should I complain?
DId anyone have goggles4u ship them a receipt for insurance claim?

Avi44
Aug 27th, 2006, 10:13 PM
How long does it take Zenni Optical to ship to Canada (Toronto Specifically). And how much does it cost for shipping? On the site they only list US Shipping.

funky_monkey_99
Aug 27th, 2006, 10:26 PM
How long does it take Zenni Optical to ship to Canada (Toronto Specifically). And how much does it cost for shipping? On the site they only list US Shipping.

mine took about 2-3 weeks to ship to hamilton, and the cost of shipping to canada is $9 which it tells you after you hit checkout and type in ur info.

SilverSamurai12
Aug 27th, 2006, 10:34 PM
Wow what cheap frames and lenses.
I guess if someone just wants the bare minimum its good for them, but like anything you get what you pay for.
Personally I wouldn't get any frame or lense that isn't a brand name, but to each their own.

nounou23
Aug 28th, 2006, 08:19 PM
mine took about 2-3 weeks to ship to hamilton, and the cost of shipping to canada is $9 which it tells you after you hit checkout and type in ur info.

I got 6.95 shipping to canada.

Avi44
Aug 28th, 2006, 11:47 PM
Much appreciated guys!

Avi44
Aug 30th, 2006, 08:50 PM
Do any of these stores have rush shipping to Canada (Toronto)?

noktrnl
Aug 31st, 2006, 02:48 AM
Hey might be a stupid question but hopefully somebody can alleviate my concerns.

The PD I gave goggles4u is one cm less than the PD my optician just told me today.

Should I be worried? Will one cm make a diff?
I mean the margin of error in making hte lens is probably about 1cm anwyays right..?

superpal3
Aug 31st, 2006, 05:56 AM
Hey might be a stupid question but hopefully somebody can alleviate my concerns.

The PD I gave goggles4u is one cm less than the PD my optician just told me today.

Should I be worried? Will one cm make a diff?
I mean the margin of error in making hte lens is probably about 1cm anwyays right..?


Short answer is no....difference is tiny...different opticians will come up with different distances anyway...should always ask for the one the Optomitrist calculates but tries to hide from you at your eye exam...why...it forces you to deal with local Opticians who tell you they need to measure it...they know about online spectacle dealers too my friend...and it is their little ploy to keep you from ordering online.


My experience with Googles4U was unsatisfactory. They can't produce a prescription correctly...eye glasses don't work (fuzzy) even on second replacement pair.

Too bad...would be good deal if it worked out. Stay away....unless you are into waste of time hassles....$69 for Progressives is not a deal if they don't work...

You have to return the glasses addressed to a one name guy "Hakeem" in Pakistan for a refund (yeah for real, totally third world bizarre, wonder what ally they are made in)...lotta work and wasted time.

The whole deal felt a little weird...something right out of Aladdin's Lamp...and then there's that cloth bag with stamps your order comes in...return to "Hakeem at Fekum Oasis, Pakistan"...turn right at the hooka pipe...left at the palm tree don't step in the camel pies

azure
Aug 31st, 2006, 07:13 AM
i got my pd taken too. the guy took it with a little machine thing that he put on my forehead. He wrote down 29/28..... so what does that mean? am i supposed to write the average of that?...

Al Kaseltzer
Aug 31st, 2006, 08:50 AM
i got my pd taken too. the guy took it with a little machine thing that he put on my forehead. He wrote down 29/28..... so what does that mean? am i supposed to write the average of that?...

If you get 2 numbers for PD, the larger one is for distance glasses, the smaller one is for reading glasses. Normally though, it's around 60 mm, so that number you got may be halved.

Lebstyle
Aug 31st, 2006, 09:40 AM
COSTCO COSTCO!
Thats the cheapest and best place to get your glasses. I don't like their general prices but when it comes to glasses/lens, they cannot be beaten!

dmxlite
Aug 31st, 2006, 02:05 PM
If you get 2 numbers for PD, the larger one is for distance glasses, the smaller one is for reading glasses. Normally though, it's around 60 mm, so that number you got may be halved.


For me, the two numbers is right and left, so the PD is the two added together.

I dunno about costco, do their frames get this cheap? I haven't really looked at it. I want high index and tinting, so the savings I see from them might be reduced.

duster
Aug 31st, 2006, 03:49 PM
If you get 2 numbers for PD, the larger one is for distance glasses, the smaller one is for reading glasses. Normally though, it's around 60 mm, so that number you got may be halved.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You have 2 pairs of eyes..?! one for reading and one for distance?! Wow! Does your wife have beard also?

Ok...kidding you... ;)

noktrnl
Aug 31st, 2006, 04:19 PM
Short answer is no....difference is tiny...different opticians will come up with different distances anyway...should always ask for the one the Optomitrist calculates but tries to hide from you at your eye exam...why...it forces you to deal with local Opticians who tell you they need to measure it...they know about online spectacle dealers too my friend...and it is their little ploy to keep you from ordering online.


My experience with Googles4U was unsatisfactory. They can't produce a prescription correctly...eye glasses don't work (fuzzy) even on second replacement pair.

Too bad...would be good deal if it worked out. Stay away....unless you are into waste of time hassles....$69 for Progressives is not a deal if they don't work...

You have to return the glasses addressed to a one name guy "Hakeem" in Pakistan for a refund (yeah for real, totally third world bizarre, wonder what ally they are made in)...lotta work and wasted time.

The whole deal felt a little weird...something right out of Aladdin's Lamp...and then there's that cloth bag with stamps your order comes in...return to "Hakeem at Fekum Oasis, Pakistan"...turn right at the hooka pipe...left at the palm tree don't step in the camel pies

thanks for the great answer.

and sorry to hear about your sour experience with goggles4u. makes me regret not buying from a retailer that's based in the states or hk.

i love hooka though.

techwiz
Sep 1st, 2006, 01:52 AM
Just placed an order with Goggles4U... too bad I missed out on the 20% off coupon though, I just got my new prescription today. :(

(I still used a 5% off code though).

wpgguy99
Sep 1st, 2006, 02:24 AM
I waded through all the useful posts and tried goggles 4 u.

Extremely pleased. Got glasses with clip ons. Basically same idea with a thinner lens would run me 350-400 dollars. And that is one of the cheaper places I have found.

The presctiprion seems great. No headaches, no blurry vision straight on in peripheral.

The workmanship seems fine for me. If you inspect the glasses you will notice some things, but wearing them and others seeing them on me, you can't notice any defects in the glasses.

I measured my PD with a ruler, and also got my friend to do it for me.

I will be ordering a pair of transition glasses in the next few weeks.

Even if you don't like the workmanship, or some other reasons listed here you can't go wrong. You can use this as your crap pair. For sports, or water activities like canoeing,

Unless of course they are giving you headaches or eye strain. Obviously discontinue use. However keep in mind. You can always get the lenses replaced and save overall.

Thanks again to everyone.

Makes me wonder about the severe markup in North America....

nacho113
Sep 1st, 2006, 10:33 AM
Hey might be a stupid question but hopefully somebody can alleviate my concerns.

The PD I gave goggles4u is one cm less than the PD my optician just told me today.

Should I be worried? Will one cm make a diff?
I mean the margin of error in making hte lens is probably about 1cm anwyays right..?
I'm hoping you mean 1 mm, and if so you probably won't notice at all. If you are out by 1 cm, then you may not be able to use these glasses.
Typically the PD is measured in mm. and will be around 60-65mm. If your prescription has 2 smaller numbers 34/33, then this is the PD to center for each eye. Just add the 2 numbers together to get your PD (in this case 34+33=67mm PD)

Bobby S.
Sep 1st, 2006, 11:02 AM
Just recieved my glasses today from goggles4u. Ordered on Aug.16 & shipped on Aug.23.
Ordered a frame that's a little too small for sunglasses but that was my fault. Still work alright as sunglasses though (they do fit fine).
Will probally order again in the future with my 15% discount. :)

joe friday
Sep 1st, 2006, 06:42 PM
Makes me wonder about the severe markup in North America....

Nothing meant personally in this, and I also don't mean to suggest that there isn't a big markup in glasses here, but I would like to point out that there are other reasons why prices here can be higher. Generally, salaries in off-shore countries are MUCH lower, and frequently there are little to no benefits provided (medical, pensions etc...), as well as little heed paid to labour laws, worker safety, environmental considerations etc....

Just my two cents about the other side of the coin...

barto
Sep 1st, 2006, 07:42 PM
Just received my second order (first was from Goggles) from Zenni - was starting to worry a little, as it was getting closer to 21 days rather than the 14 they suggest is typical, but my daughter's happy with her transition glasses with the cat on the sides (!) and my sunglasses are pretty good, too.

My wife's now convinced to give it a shot, too, since ours turned out so well. (for the money, esp.)

Thanks to RFD yet again!

Bart

edit: our optometrist gladly wrote down the PD measurement on our prescription.

ringdingbing
Sep 3rd, 2006, 10:41 AM
3rd pair of rim less and no complaints


except for the gay color glasses case they send. gay pink and gay yellow and bright gay green.

teknoluv
Sep 3rd, 2006, 10:55 AM
COSTCO COSTCO!
Thats the cheapest and best place to get your glasses. I don't like their general prices but when it comes to glasses/lens, they cannot be beaten!
Is there any promotion going on? I visited their vision centre but wasn't really impressed by the prices, although they have the FCUK frame I like (2 tone, with cool colours) which I can't find at other places (yet).

firefly!
Sep 3rd, 2006, 11:42 PM
Hello, wondering if anybody has purchased eyeglasses from www.myopticalshop.com?

I'm eyeing - no pun intended - this pair I would like to buy, but want to receive some independent customer feedback first. If this store is not any good, I'll have to buy from optical4less, even though they don't have the frame colour i desire.

thanks all!

edit: and what about http://www.glassescrafter.com/? they have designer pairs with free thin high-index 1.61 lens included. DKNY, Armani, etc. are selling on average, at 45 Euros (approx $64 Cdn). Wow! anybody has experience with them? they have 100% satisfaction/accuracy guarantee too. i'm incredulous.

wpgguy99
Sep 4th, 2006, 07:55 PM
Nothing meant personally in this, and I also don't mean to suggest that there isn't a big markup in glasses here, but I would like to point out that there are other reasons why prices here can be higher. Generally, salaries in off-shore countries are MUCH lower, and frequently there are little to no benefits provided (medical, pensions etc...), as well as little heed paid to labour laws, worker safety, environmental considerations etc....

Just my two cents about the other side of the coin...

No worries. I agree with you. Actually it is a fact.

But basically my glasses would be 350-400$ here. I got almost the same thing for 30$. Granted the lense would be thinner if I got them local. But still, that kind of markup is insane. Glasses are so common, so purchasing power, and mass production rules should apply.

I'm not saying CDN companies should be able to match this price. But for me the discrepency is just FAR too much.

And BTW my frames from Canada are nothing special like designer or anything.

joe friday
Sep 4th, 2006, 08:16 PM
:snip: I'm not saying CDN companies should be able to match this price. But for me the discrepency is just FAR too much.

So true...because so many people here have insurance, it seems like opticians locally start their pricing at the average insurance level and go up. All of the coatings, UV, AR etc are also way overpriced.

ze-ta
Sep 5th, 2006, 05:38 PM
Silly question for those that ordered from goggles4u... how big was the package and was it delivered by Canada Post? A few posts mention that the glasses came in a cloth bag, but can it fit through a typical 3"x11" mail slot?

It's been 30 days since my order from goggles4u was shipped, but I have yet to receive it.

wiseblood
Sep 5th, 2006, 06:56 PM
Silly question for those that ordered from goggles4u... how big was the package and was it delivered by Canada Post? A few posts mention that the glasses came in a cloth bag, but can it fit through a typical 3"x11" mail slot?

It's been 30 days since my order from goggles4u was shipped, but I have yet to receive it.
No, it won't fit in a 3" x 11" mail slot. The package is more like 4.5" x 8", and it's a stiff styrofaom box wrapped in a cloth bag, not really pliable. It should have been there by now. Email them and inquire as to what is going on, as a few people in the thread have mentioned having their order mixed up. Best to check with the company.

ze-ta
Sep 6th, 2006, 01:46 AM
No, it won't fit in a 3" x 11" mail slot. The package is more like 4.5" x 8", and it's a stiff styrofaom box wrapped in a cloth bag, not really pliable. It should have been there by now. Email them and inquire as to what is going on, as a few people in the thread have mentioned having their order mixed up. Best to check with the company.

Thanks for the info, wiseblood. I've sent them an email.

I'm never home during the day, so my concern is that the delivery person (Canada Post?) may have taken the package back and forgot to leave a notice.

wiseblood
Sep 6th, 2006, 08:23 AM
3rd pair of rim less and no complaints


except for the gay color glasses case they send. gay pink and gay yellow and bright gay green.
Maybe they're trying to tell you something......... ;)

neo1973
Sep 6th, 2006, 09:33 AM
Maybe they're trying to tell you something......... ;)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

nacho113
Sep 8th, 2006, 09:28 PM
Hey, if anyone is still looking for some cheap glasses, I just noticed that ZenniOptical now has some starting at $8.95 for frame and single vision lens.
http://zennioptical.com/cart/home.php?cat=20
They also have $12.95 glasses, 15.95 and $19 in the budget catagories.
Lenses are Polycarbonate, so UV protection and Antiscratch are included, but AR Coating is $4.95 extra. Tint is available, but it's $4.95 extra also. On the plus side, the addition of Tint doesn't remove the UV protection like Goggles4u.
They do charge $9 for shipping to Canada (but you only pay $9 no matter how many pairs you order on the same order)
A pair of there basic $8.95 glasses would be $17.95 shipped. With the AR Coating or Tint they come to $22.90 shipped.

No, I don't work for them, but I have a couple of pairs of glasses from them and I'm very satisfied with there product and workmanship.

nacho113
Sep 9th, 2006, 10:32 AM
Just a bump for some really cheap glasses, incase you missed the $8.95 glasses at Zenni :)

Leshita
Sep 9th, 2006, 05:29 PM
Does Goggles4u notify me when they have shipped my glasses?
I ordered a pair a week or two ago, but have not received any message from them yet.

rhainman
Sep 9th, 2006, 06:24 PM
Does Goggles4u notify me when they have shipped my glasses?
I ordered a pair a week or two ago, but have not received any message from them yet.

If you look at the CCnow confirmation email, it contains a link to the order status that tells you when they were shipped. Expect to receive them 2-3 weeks after that date.

Leshita
Sep 9th, 2006, 06:29 PM
Oh, I just checked and they were shipped on August 31, so should come arrive in 1-2 weeks.

Thanks. :)

Gellar
Sep 11th, 2006, 01:53 PM
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jimgiggles
Sep 11th, 2006, 06:40 PM
they give free eye exams?? where? I need my prescription updated. tx.


They only give out free eye exams if you buy your eyeglasses from them. You can find places like this everywhere.

techwiz
Sep 13th, 2006, 06:55 PM
Received my rimless pair from Goggles4U today. Ordered 9/1, shipped 9/5, received 9/13. Pretty fast shipping from Pakistan.

Prescription is perfect... fit is a bit tight... only complaint is that I couldn't use the 20% off coupon. Apparently it was valid a few days before I placed my order, and it is valid now that I've received it. What gives. :mad:

Pr0metheus
Sep 14th, 2006, 12:11 AM
Received my rimless pair from Goggles4U today. Ordered 9/1, shipped 9/5, received 9/13. Pretty fast shipping from Pakistan.

Prescription is perfect... fit is a bit tight... only complaint is that I couldn't use the 20% off coupon. Apparently it was valid a few days before I placed my order, and it is valid now that I've received it. What gives. :mad:
My pair shipped August 31st and I still don't have it :-(

Canmod
Sep 16th, 2006, 10:04 AM
i called my opticican today to get a copy of my prescription and when i asked to get my pd distance she turned into a big ***** and said she wont give it to me because she doesnt want me to order online. what gives is she allowed to withhold that info. im pretty pissed right now i might head down there and give her an earful

Acuratl
Sep 16th, 2006, 12:28 PM
i called my opticican today to get a copy of my prescription and when i asked to get my pd distance she turned into a big ***** and said she wont give it to me because she doesnt want me to order online. what gives is she allowed to withhold that info. im pretty pissed right now i might head down there and give her an earful


i would get a new optician right away, seems like she only cares about your wallet, and not your eyes..

firefly!
Sep 16th, 2006, 12:46 PM
I had the same experience. You'll need to look around your area for an optometrist who would be willing to measure your P.D. during your eye exam, because the vast majority of opticians in store will hoard your P.D.

Of course, you should blast that optician too, preferably when the store is full of people. Make sure to roar out "dishonest/treacherous/scumbag/dirtbag/conniving punt of a shopkeeper." Grab a spoiled salmon by the tail and slap some sense into the tart if there is still no progress. If you had already purchased glasses from him or her, it'd be more difficult for the optician to withhold your P.D. from you, because in a sense, you've already paid for it.

silicone
Sep 16th, 2006, 12:57 PM
My pair shipped August 31st and I still don't have it :-(
Mine shipped on the 30th and I got them on Thursday -- so you should probably get them on Monday...

3 pairs... spectacular -- I'm really happy with them. All rimless or semi-rimless... one plain, one yellow tint for riding or skiing, and one darker sunglass.. all prescription lenses... total cost??? hahahaha.. LOL............. OMG stop me..... $72 :lol:

NiteHawk
Sep 16th, 2006, 10:57 PM
if you want your PD, never tell them you wanna order online!

I went to Lenscrafters, at first the lady was a little skeptical, but she eventually caved. She didnt write it down or anything tho to save her back I suppose. I just told her I need it just for "reference" :lol:

gamer123
Sep 16th, 2006, 11:07 PM
Which machine measures your PD anyways? Cause I REALLY HATE the machine that ****ing blows air into my eyes!

bug
Sep 16th, 2006, 11:31 PM
I had the same experience. You'll need to look around your area for an optometrist who would be willing to measure your P.D. during your eye exam, because the vast majority of opticians in store will hoard your P.D.

Of course, you should blast that optician too, preferably when the store is full of people. Make sure to roar out "dishonest/treacherous/scumbag/dirtbag/conniving punt of a shopkeeper." Grab a spoiled salmon by the tail and slap some sense into the tart if there is still no progress. If you had already purchased glasses from him or her, it'd be more difficult for the optician to withhold your P.D. from you, because in a sense, you've already paid for it.
I prefer a nice smelly trout myself :lol:

SilverSamurai12
Sep 17th, 2006, 12:30 AM
Which machine measures your PD anyways? Cause I REALLY HATE the machine that ****ing blows air into my eyes!


The PD measure the distance b/w your pupils.
You can't make a pair of lenses w/o the PD, although I've been told you can guess at it.

Anyways an optician and optometrist are totally different.
Optician- person that works in a glasses store and repairs and does adjustments. Do not take eye exams (well atleast not legally).

Optometrist- eye doctor. This is who gives you your prescription. Not all eye docs take your PD (although I can't see why they wouldn't). No one else is legally entitled to give you a prescription. And speaking from experience, I would be cautious of a store that does free eye exams. Since its free its most likely not a thorough eye exam. Also called sight test, eye test. Or the usual giveaway are 15mins eye exams. It takes about 30mins (if you're not middle aged) for a thorough eye exam.

Damn I need my eyes checked again... :eek:

OctaneChicken
Sep 17th, 2006, 01:05 AM
Ordered my glasses from Optical4less.com (http://Optical4less.com). Turned out Perfect!!! :cheesygri
Ordered on Sept 4
Shipped on Sept 11
Received on Sept 15
Pretty good 11 days.

Also I got the wife to measure my PD (mm). Just took a ruler and looked straight ahead, she read the number.

badkaraoke
Sep 17th, 2006, 06:31 PM
Hakim actually shared my prescription with me after I pooted out 250 for a pair of glasses. Ah well.

azure
Sep 19th, 2006, 03:38 PM
ok, so i went to this new place to get my eyes checked and he only took like 15 min. to give me my prescription..... wth? is this normal.... I told him that the letters still looked blurry but he responded with an ok and didn't do anything. do you think my presciption could be wrong?... he only switched the lenses twice for each eye. I don't want to order glasses that are made with the wrong prescription. I think my left eye is -4 and my right eye is -3.75......not too sure though.

silicone
Sep 19th, 2006, 05:26 PM
ok, so i went to this new place to get my eyes checked and he only took like 15 min. to give me my prescription..... wth? is this normal.... I told him that the letters still looked blurry but he responded with an ok and didn't do anything. do you think my presciption could be wrong?... he only switched the lenses twice for each eye. I don't want to order glasses that are made with the wrong prescription. I think my left eye is -4 and my right eye is -3.75......not too sure though.


hahaa... you're not serious are you?? you didn't pay for that service did you?? you might want to contact the college of optometry if you find no resolution in perhaps seeing another doctor in that same clinic

techwiz
Sep 19th, 2006, 08:38 PM
So I'm thinking of ordering another pair from Goggles4U. However, their PEACE code isn't working for me again... sigh... guess I'll wait this time. :mad:

t10
Sep 19th, 2006, 10:20 PM
Just placed an order for dorky big aviator style glasses from goggles4u.

29shipped, through paypal. Can't complain.
All my fashion glasses, are a pain to watch TV through, since when I recline my head, and look up at the TV, part of the TV is outside the range of the lense.

Now with these gigantic dorky glasses, I can finally watch TV/play xbox without having to keep my head upright.

Laziness ftw :D

nacho113
Sep 19th, 2006, 10:52 PM
So I'm thinking of ordering another pair from Goggles4U. However, their PEACE code isn't working for me again... sigh... guess I'll wait this time. :mad:
I'm pretty sure the PEACE code was a one day thing, but you can still get a 15% discount if you have already ordered from them before. Just send them an email after you place your order with "Repeat Customer Discount" in the subject line and include the particulars of you previous order.

weedb0y
Sep 20th, 2006, 05:55 AM
bump

Acuratl
Sep 20th, 2006, 12:19 PM
bump


ordered a pair of transitions, still waiting for them to arrive, cant wait! I managed to squeeze in the PEACE code, just a heads up though. The lense on one pair that i ordered a while ago popped out! I emailed them about this and after a few emails back and forth they extended me a 50% return on that pair, very nice people!

techwiz
Sep 20th, 2006, 12:41 PM
I'm pretty sure the PEACE code was a one day thing, but you can still get a 15% discount if you have already ordered from them before. Just send them an email after you place your order with "Repeat Customer Discount" in the subject line and include the particulars of you previous order.

Oh well, I don't really need another pair at the moment... I don't think I can stack the repeat customer 15% on top of the 20% anyways.

rhainman
Sep 20th, 2006, 01:29 PM
Oh well, I don't really need another pair at the moment... I don't think I can stack the repeat customer 15% on top of the 20% anyways.
You can't - I tried.

silicone
Sep 20th, 2006, 02:40 PM
I was hoping to get a pair of prescription sunglasses since Goggles4u offers free tinting. On their site, doesn't it say somewhere that all the lens have UV protection and AR coating etc. etc.?

Well just to be sure, I sent their cust. rep. an email explaining that I wanted to purchases a pair of sunglasses with them, but since their site says they don't offer sunglasses but offer free tinting, I asked if the would offer UV protection.

I got the reply today and they said NO UV protection is offered. ??
I think perhaps this was an answer to a misunderstood question -- and as I just received two pairs of tinted lenses I revisited this issue -- I ordered yellow (50%) and black (80%) tints and I'm very happy with them... I intend to use these lenses for cycling, skiing, and just generally looking hotter than I am already ;)

This whole discussion on UV protection went against everything I took as fact about plastic lenses and coatings - however I wrote them for fact on this issue..... I'm quoting the above entry as it seems the first to mention this mis-information about UV protection only made worse by some following posts who pretend to be experts in UV protection and wide open pupils -- while there is some truth in the facts put forth it seems wrongly applied to this retailer and the materials in question.

CR39 inherently blocks 100% UVB and 85-95% UVA -- however all goggles4u lenses are additionally coated for UV protection. In addition the hard coating has some inherent UV blocking activity as well -- this information is available by searching the web

in addition - my response from their customer service was short and to the point :

Dear Client,
They are 100% UV protected. There is a lot of negative marketing going on these days. We have sold 1000’s of glasses and never received any complaint.

azure
Sep 20th, 2006, 05:35 PM
hahaa... you're not serious are you?? you didn't pay for that service did you?? you might want to contact the college of optometry if you find no resolution in perhaps seeing another doctor in that same clinic

i am serious :( . I thought that maybe they have their own way of knowing my prescription...... should i buy a pair first and see if the prescription is ok? they took my glasses away so i'm thinking maybe they got it off of that. they asked me first if it had changed a lot and I said not that much. soooo........ don't really know what to do.

joe friday
Sep 20th, 2006, 09:12 PM
I'd go somewhere else and get a proper eye test, and I'd never go back to that place again. If you've already paid and they won't refund your money, try bringing the prescription that they give you to the new place, and have it compared to your new prescription (after your new eye test is done!)...if it differs significantly, I'd report the first guy to the authorities (whomever the appropriate regulating body is).

andyp
Sep 20th, 2006, 09:19 PM
I dont get how your PD can be different for each eye, since its the distance from one pupil to the other ...

Quoted from some website I have now lost the link to:
"PD is the distance from the center of the pupil (black circle) in one eye to the center of the pupil in the other eye. It is called Binocular PD. In cases where the pupils are not equidistant from the nose, a monocular PD is required. Monocular PD is measured from the centerline of the nose to each pupil. In such a case you will have different values for the right eye (OD PD) and the left eye (OS PD). Another reason for more than one Pupil Distance is the need to correct both distance and near vision. In this case the prescription will state Near PD and Dist PD. The Near PD measurement is shorter than the Distance PD by 2 to 5 mm because the eyes turn in at near distance."

Thus, the binocular PD (single value) would be the sum of the monocular PDs (two values). ie. my new prescription has a PD of 63/59

Betard
Sep 25th, 2006, 12:51 PM
thanks for these links, I need to get myself some black rimmed glasses and didnt want to pay a ton of $$$ for them.

mahchoud
Sep 25th, 2006, 03:58 PM
Well I'll still rather get the frame from a online dealer and get the lens at the regular optical store instead. Frames are overpriced anyway.

If you buy the frames from an Optometrist's office you will pay their cost. They are not allowed to mark-up on their frames.

nacho113
Sep 25th, 2006, 08:05 PM
If you buy the frames from an Optometrist's office you will pay their cost. They are not allowed to mark-up on their frames.
Actually, the markup on frames is very high. Most are 45- 60% gross profit and some are even higher. Some of the budget frames are at or near cost to give the opening price point that is shown in there advertising, but there is lots of markup on most of the so called "designer" frames.

nacho113
Sep 25th, 2006, 08:21 PM
I think perhaps this was an answer to a misunderstood question -- and as I just received two pairs of tinted lenses I revisited this issue -- I ordered yellow (50%) and black (80%) tints and I'm very happy with them... I intend to use these lenses for cycling, skiing, and just generally looking hotter than I am already ;)

This whole discussion on UV protection went against everything I took as fact about plastic lenses and coatings - however I wrote them for fact on this issue..... I'm quoting the above entry as it seems the first to mention this mis-information about UV protection only made worse by some following posts who pretend to be experts in UV protection and wide open pupils -- while there is some truth in the facts put forth it seems wrongly applied to this retailer and the materials in question.

CR39 inherently blocks 100% UVB and 85-95% UVA -- however all goggles4u lenses are additionally coated for UV protection. In addition the hard coating has some inherent UV blocking activity as well -- this information is available by searching the web

in addition - my response from their customer service was short and to the point :
Goggles4u may have changed there tune on UV Protection or someone is misinformed. See the following link to when the discussion started on UV protection and the reply from Goggles4u at that time (From page 35 of this thread post 521) http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3356354&postcount=521

Dear Client,

This refers to your message:

(1) 100% tint is recommended for sunglasses.
(2) Unfortunately our sunglasses are not UV protected.

Please feel free to contact us for further assistance.

Regards,
Sales and Support

www.goggles4u.com

Email : info@goggles4u.com
US Fax: 1-866-450-8782
UK Fax: 0870 622 0261

mahchoud
Sep 26th, 2006, 10:02 PM
Actually, the markup on frames is very high. Most are 45- 60% gross profit and some are even higher. Some of the budget frames are at or near cost to give the opening price point that is shown in there advertising, but there is lots of markup on most of the so called "designer" frames.

The College of Optometrists (Eye Doctors) forbids all Optometrists from profiting off of frames.

I wasn't talking about Opticians.

nacho113
Sep 26th, 2006, 11:29 PM
The College of Optometrists (Eye Doctors) forbids all Optometrists from profiting off of frames.

I wasn't talking about Opticians.
Probably why the eye doctor and the dispensary are 2 different entities. After you get your eyes tested, they are very carefull to hand you off to one of the people in the dispensary to help with your selection of frames. The doctor does there job and checks your eyes and then you buy your frames and lenses (with the doctors prescription) from the opticians, which is a business unto itself.

mahchoud
Sep 27th, 2006, 08:46 AM
Probably why the eye doctor and the dispensary are 2 different entities. After you get your eyes tested, they are very carefull to hand you off to one of the people in the dispensary to help with your selection of frames. The doctor does there job and checks your eyes and then you buy your frames and lenses (with the doctors prescription) from the opticians, which is a business unto itself.

Those are the optical stores who employ the Optometrists. I'm talking about the Optomerists who have a small dispensary in their offices. They charge you cost on frames and lenses plus a dispensing fee. If you find the right one, the dispensing fee will be quite reasonable (covers the cost of keeping the dispensary etc.).

Nevertheless, it will probably be a little more expensive than the websites in question; however, at least the lenses will be properly configured which will result in not making your eyesight worse!

neo1973
Sep 27th, 2006, 09:18 AM
A little more expensive? When I tried last time it was a lot more expensive. :)

dr_niko
Sep 27th, 2006, 11:05 AM
Just received 3 pairs of glasses from zenni: 2 for my fiance, and 1 for myself.
the prescription for both of us was correct (my fiance's script is light, by i'm 4.5 with astigmatism; we're both myopic), the lenses were well cut and well placed in the frames, and the frames were not bent out of shape. They arrived 8 days after I placed the order for all 3 pairs on the web. great value. great price. highly recommended.



Recieved my order from Zenni Optical. You can't beat the value !!!

RKS

predator
Sep 29th, 2006, 12:01 AM
So was anyone able to find a good optometrist in downtown Toronto that’s willing to share the PD value? I was going to get mine today , so I called ahead of time to make sure the doctor can take my prescription and wouldn’t mind giving me the PD ( I mean for 75 dollars why not?). The secretary said she would call me back with the answer , when she called I wasn't able to pick up so it went to voice mail , she told me the doctor cant give out that value because I need my new frames before they can measure the value because glasses come in different shapes/ sizes. I find that a bit hard to believe since whatever the shape of the glasses , the distance between my pupils should stay the same when I am looking forward towards the distance.... and the lenses would be made in a way to accommodate the PD. This sucks because I really need new glasses very soon , I am on my backup glasses in which the frame is almost fully broken now... Any help / recommendations to a good optometrist would be helpful .I would prefer not to do the ruler method since my eyesight is bad enough that I cant do it in the mirror and I think the machine should be more accurate than my buddies trying to get that value.

Thanks

vonteego
Sep 29th, 2006, 12:46 AM
Anyone experience slow service from Optical4less.com lately?

I ordered on September 5th and my order is STILL "Making in Progress". That's 24 days and counting.

Previous order never even took half as long.

joersx
Sep 29th, 2006, 05:35 AM
just received my second pair from goggles4u

BUT

my the thickness of the lenses for the second pair is double that of the first one - -? I totally do not understand why. The only difference is that the second pair has 10% tint. Could that be the cause?

I tried to email them but haven't heard back from them. The thickness of the lenses for the second pair makes it look really sad. The prescription for the second pair is giving me a headache too.

How long should I expect for them to reply my email?

joersx
Sep 29th, 2006, 05:37 AM
vonteego

even the link to their website that you posted is not working

Probably something is going wrong in the company??

jdi_knght
Oct 9th, 2006, 08:53 PM
Just an update for anyone interested. EyeBuyDirect has been listed on the site, and can be found at eyeglassretailerreviews.com/ebdirect.htm (http://www.eyeglassretailerreviews.com/ebdirect.htm) . Haven't bought from them yet, but there's a little info there if anyone's looking to compare prices or something. Actually, I haven't really see them mentioned in many places, so if anyone's bought from them and wants to let me know (or post about it here), that'd be great (always good to know if a company is great, or a rip off, or...).

Battscrew
Oct 10th, 2006, 06:58 PM
just got my second pair from goggles - went with the transitional with the same frame as before - came in just as god as my first pair - although the lens does appear slightly thicker - also bought my wife's first pair

sammy25
Oct 10th, 2006, 07:04 PM
I've just bought a pair of designer glassses with thin lenses from www.ispectacle.com . they're based in uk and the prices on their site seemed quite cheap. They said delivery is in a week will report back once i've recieved them.
Another site thet's interesting is www.spex4less.com seem to have a large range but the prices seem just a bit steep for an internet site. Glasses are nice though

wpgguy99
Oct 10th, 2006, 09:13 PM
So was anyone able to find a good optometrist in downtown Toronto that’s willing to share the PD value? I was going to get mine today , so I called ahead of time to make sure the doctor can take my prescription and wouldn’t mind giving me the PD ( I mean for 75 dollars why not?). The secretary said she would call me back with the answer , when she called I wasn't able to pick up so it went to voice mail , she told me the doctor cant give out that value because I need my new frames before they can measure the value because glasses come in different shapes/ sizes. I find that a bit hard to believe since whatever the shape of the glasses , the distance between my pupils should stay the same when I am looking forward towards the distance.... and the lenses would be made in a way to accommodate the PD. This sucks because I really need new glasses very soon , I am on my backup glasses in which the frame is almost fully broken now... Any help / recommendations to a good optometrist would be helpful .I would prefer not to do the ruler method since my eyesight is bad enough that I cant do it in the mirror and I think the machine should be more accurate than my buddies trying to get that value.

Thanks

Don't go back. I can see opticians not giving PD value, but if you're paying 75$ for an exam, YOU ARE PAYING FOR THE RESULTS. The fact they're holding back is ********.

Like I said I can see not giving PD value for free, but there is no excuse for your Dr not to give it.

I ordered a pair from goggles4u, love them. My Dad just got his pair and loves them.

predator
Oct 10th, 2006, 09:43 PM
Thanks for the reply wpgguy99,

By the way , where did you get your eyes checked? did the Dr give you any problems when you asked for the PD? I kinda gave up on my hunt for a bit (lots of tests in this period) but still need new glasses.

Thanks

joe friday
Oct 10th, 2006, 09:56 PM
I've just bought a pair of designer glassses with thin lenses from www.ispectacle.com . they're based in uk and the prices on their site seemed quite cheap. They said delivery is in a week will report back once i've recieved them.
Another site thet's interesting is www.spex4less.com seem to have a large range but the prices seem just a bit steep for an internet site. Glasses are nice though

I'd be very interested in hearing what you think of your experience with ispectacle. I checked both sites out and I might like to place an order with them.

Also, did they subtract the VAT from your order, and if so, how much of a deduction is that?

wpgguy99
Oct 10th, 2006, 10:42 PM
Thanks for the reply wpgguy99,

By the way , where did you get your eyes checked? did the Dr give you any problems when you asked for the PD? I kinda gave up on my hunt for a bit (lots of tests in this period) but still need new glasses.

Thanks


I actually lost mine when my canoe flipped :lol:

So I called back the place I bought my glasses from and asked for a copy of my prescription. No problem. Because after all it is my personal information I paid for ;)

Then I asked for the Pd value. She said no because "I am legally liable for that reading" :confused: :lol: :confused: :lol:

Like I have mentioned they have a business to run, so I understand they do not want to give it. I measured mine with a ruler, and got my buddy to do measure the pd as well.

Worked out fine. If you search this now massive thread, you will find that supposedly it does not have to be EXACT, it just can't be way off.

I looked at it as a 20$ gamble. If I got headaches or eye fatigue discontinue use immediatly.

Never happened. Would buy from them again hands down.

The one thing I can't believe is that I was about to buy another 300$ pair (bad perscription +sunglass clip on) from the optician. So for 30$ I got everything I wanted. Is the quality slightly lower then the optician? Yes, but for the price I am thrilled with the goggles4u deal!

jdi_knght
Oct 13th, 2006, 02:47 AM
Just a note, I got an email with a coupon code for 39dollarglasses if anyone's planning on ordering from them in the next month or so (may as well save yourself a few bucks). As far as I can tell, it's $10 off any order.

Coupon Code: fall10
Expires: November 15th, 2006

JB7
Oct 13th, 2006, 03:39 AM
Just a note, I got an email with a coupon code for 39dollarglasses if anyone's planning on ordering from them in the next month or so (may as well save yourself a few bucks). As far as I can tell, it's $10 off any order.

Coupon Code: fall10
Expires: November 15th, 2006

Awesome. This coupon can be used more than once, right?

jdi_knght
Oct 13th, 2006, 03:42 AM
Awesome. This coupon can be used more than once, right?

As far as I can tell, it can be used an unlimited number of times.

CheapDude
Oct 13th, 2006, 09:02 PM
Anyone know how long it usually takes USPS to update their tracking system? I ordered a pair of glasses from zenni last saturday and got the tracking number on the 11th, however when I check on the USPS tracking site it has no record of the shippment>:(

techwiz
Oct 13th, 2006, 09:15 PM
Received my second pair from Goggles4U. Aside from the hot pink case, everything is good. :)

Battscrew
Oct 14th, 2006, 12:20 AM
Received my second pair from Goggles4U. Aside from the hot pink case, everything is good. :)


Funny you should mention that my wifes case hot pink - mine neon green both tore a bit from the tape

weedb0y
Oct 14th, 2006, 04:13 AM
Received my second pair from Goggles4U. Aside from the hot pink case, everything is good. :)

when did you order? I just ordered my 2nd pair..my first pair..i had messed up with..it was too small for my face .. lol

techwiz
Oct 14th, 2006, 07:27 AM
when did you order? I just ordered my 2nd pair..my first pair..i had messed up with..it was too small for my face .. lol

Ordered on 2nd, shipped on 4th, received on 13th from Pakistan. Not bad at all.