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JuNGleR72
Jan 18th, 2006, 10:45 AM
Hi,

Last night my computer turned off by itself multiple times.
I was checking in the set up page and noticed that the
CPU temp. was at 102 degrees celsuis.

Is that normal??

It was hilighted red too.

The self reboot started when I pluged in my LCD Mon.
Could this be the cause of it??

Before I was using a CRT mon. and have never experienced this before.

Your help is very much appreciated..

BobW
Jan 18th, 2006, 11:31 AM
102 is WAY high. Under extreme load for a good period of time, you might hit that. The self reboot might have been the system shutting down due to heat.

Plugging in a LCD shouldn't cause that.

Gnus
Jan 18th, 2006, 11:38 AM
102 is way too hot, even for a cpu under load.

SergesPlace
Jan 18th, 2006, 11:38 AM
Hi,

Last night my computer turned off by itself multiple times.
I was checking in the set up page and noticed that the
CPU temp. was at 102 degrees celsuis.

Is that normal??



http://show.imagehosting.us/show/1090041/0/nouser_1090/T0_-1_1090041.jpg And no it's not normal. Is it an Intel or Amd ?

chicken_little
Jan 18th, 2006, 11:40 AM
Is your cpu fan spinning when the pc is on? At 102, I could use your cpu as a frying pan. :cheesygri

vrus
Jan 18th, 2006, 11:46 AM
102 will fry your cpu. I'm not sure how hot it is for intel these days, but my 2500xp oced runs at 36c.

Check to see your psu / cpu / and case fans are running.

JuNGleR72
Jan 18th, 2006, 11:47 AM
http://show.imagehosting.us/show/1090041/0/nouser_1090/T0_-1_1090041.jpg And no it's not normal. Is it an Intel or Amd ?

Its an Intel. 3.06

The fan is spinning when the pc is on..

So I don't know whats wrong and what could cause this over heat.
Im not a computer wiz. so I can just look at it and solve the problem.
That is why I came to the RFD comp. Gurus for help.


What should i do?

JuNGleR72
Jan 18th, 2006, 11:52 AM
102 will fry your cpu. I'm not sure how hot it is for intel these days, but my 2500xp oced runs at 36c.

Check to see your psu / cpu / and case fans are running.

OK i will double check all of the above tonite..

chicken_little
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:11 PM
How about taking a picture of what's inside your case and uploading it for us to see?

PC-stuff
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:16 PM
0. Buy some Heat Sink Compound.
1. Disconnect the power cord.
2. Remove CPU & heat sink over CPU.
3. Gently remove any gunk between the CPU and heat sink where they touch
(using a plastic tool like a credit card on edge)
4. Apply a tiny amount a heat sink compound on the CPU (the less the better).
5. Spread it around with the plastic tool.
6. Reassemble heat sink & fan over CPU.
7. Plug power cord back in.

See your CPU run in he 30-40 degree C range.

HUH
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:17 PM
is it very dusty inside the case? have you try using other temp reading program (ie. cpu fan) to read its temp?

JuNGleR72
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:20 PM
How about taking a picture of what's inside your case and uploading it for us to see?

OK will take some pics tonite.. and upload them..

xKagex
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:20 PM
It might just be reading incorrectly.. 102 Celsius is incredibly hot for a CPU. You might want to verify that it's actually Celsius and not Fahrenheit. Look in your BIOS and see if the temperatures there match what you're seeing elsewhere.

Feel inside the case with your hand and try to guess what the temperature near the CPU is, at 102C, the ambient air should also be very hot.

Neb
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:21 PM
Your bios might be misreading the temp. My Athlon64 3000+ is running real hot too.. after abotu 30 mins of games goes to around 67 or 70 and computer just crashes.. damn MaTX case.

JuNGleR72
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:22 PM
0. Buy some Heat Sink Compound.
1. Disconnect the power cord.
2. Remove CPU & heat sink over CPU.
3. Gently remove any gunk between the CPU and heat sink where they touch
(using a plastic tool like a credit card on edge)
4. Apply a tiny amount a heat sink compound on the CPU (the less the better).
5. Spread it around with the plastic tool.
6. Reassemble heat sink & fan over CPU.
7. Plug power cord back in.

See your CPU run in he 30-40 degree C range.


is this the compound I should use??
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=503

JuNGleR72
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:24 PM
It might just be reading incorrectly.. 102 Celsius is incredibly hot for a CPU. You might want to verify that it's actually Celsius and not Fahrenheit. Look in your BIOS and see if the temperatures there match what you're seeing elsewhere.

Feel inside the case with your hand and try to guess what the temperature near the CPU is, at 102C, the ambient air should also be very hot.

Thats where i read the temperature, in the bios.

I dont have any other programs that can read the temp.

SergesPlace
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:26 PM
is this the compound I should use??
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=503

Yup, AS5

Nubee
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:28 PM
Try touching the heatsink and you'll know if it's really at 102 celsius. If it's just warm to the touch, the temp monitor is reading it incorrectly.

chicken_little
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:32 PM
4. Apply a tiny amount a heat sink compound on the CPU (the less the better).
Oops...I just replaced my cpu fan and I like used the whole tube of paste that came with it. :cheesygri

d_chow
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:43 PM
I actually had the same problem last night (not the lcd bit, but overheating), and my cpu temp was at 89C. My computer kept on turning itself off. :mad:

Had no idea what it was, at first I thought it was a virus or something since it would get to windows and then shut down. But after a few tries it wouldn't get past windows loading screen, so I checked the temperature thinking it might be hardware. Well it was, so I took the fan/heatsink off the cpu (and the heatsink was blazing hot!) , air dusted the ton of dust off it, and since I had the case open, I dusted off all of my fans and the filter as well.

Now it's running at 19C. So I think your computer might just need a good dusting. Worked like a charm for me.

Btw P4 uses a speedstep tech in the event of overheating. The cpu would be set to a slower speed so it won't fry itself and try to cool itself off. So if you feel that your computer is not as "speedy" as it was before, that could be the reason as well. I certainly felt it, as I thought my computer was sorta slow before, now it's back up to normal speed. :cheesygri

PC-stuff
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:48 PM
is this the compound I should use??
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=503


Yes any those should do.

Your temps are so high that the HSF may not be attached properly or
maybe the clear plastic film protecting the gunk on the HSF was not
removed. Best check those things 1st. And as noted above,
clean out any dust.

JuNGleR72
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:48 PM
I actually had the same problem last night (not the lcd bit, but overheating), and my cpu temp was at 89C. My computer kept on turning itself off. :mad:

Had no idea what it was, at first I thought it was a virus or something since it would get to windows and then shut down. But after a few tries it wouldn't get past windows loading screen, so I checked the temperature thinking it might be hardware. Well it was, so I took the fan/heatsink off the cpu, air dusted the ton of dust off it, and since I had the case open, I dusted off all of my fans and the filter as well.

Now it's running at 19C. So I think your computer might just need a good dusting. Worked like a charm for me.

Btw P4 uses a speedstep tech in the event of overheating. The cpu would be set to a slower speed so it won't fry itself and try to cool itself off. So if you feel that your computer is not as "speedy" as it was before, that could be the reason as well. I certainly felt it, as I thought my computer was sorta slow before, now it's back up to normal speed. :cheesygri


Thanks I will clean it out tonite too.

Good to hear that your comp. is back to normal..


I want to thank everyone for helping me out with this problem.
You guys have been awsome!

Im coming here first next time I have a computer problem. :cheesygri

Nubee
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:57 PM
so I took the fan/heatsink off the cpu (and the heatsink was blazing hot!) , air dusted the ton of dust off it, and since I had the case open, I dusted off all of my fans and the filter as well.

Now it's running at 19C. So I think your computer might just need a good dusting. Worked like a charm for me.



Which cpu do you have and you're getting only 19C on air?

Hu$tlah
Jan 18th, 2006, 01:13 PM
I used to get 21C with my old p4 2.0 but that was with the zalman heatsink. But without zalman i was getting like 24-26C. But 19C is amazing just on air.

Jungler, try to clean your box and you will be surprised with the end result. Clean all the dust properly from fans and heatsink and use the compressed air can to help you out.

Good Luck :).

Oversized Rooster
Jan 18th, 2006, 01:18 PM
The best compound to use is Arctic Silver 5. Buy yourself an aftermarket heatsink, too.

It can not onlylower your temperatures, but it can achieve that in much quieter ways.

Remember when applying the compound on the CPU, don't use a lot. A pea-sized amount right in the middle is good. Then just smack the heatsink on, and lightly move it around - the compound will spread itself under there. Allow up to 5 days of operation for the compound to reach its complete efficiency rating.

d_chow
Jan 18th, 2006, 02:00 PM
Which cpu do you have and you're getting only 19C on air?

I'm sorry but I don't know what does "on air" mean :?:

Sorry if I confused anyone, but I'm running a P4 3.0c, and it has a heatsink and fan on it....

I do have 4 fans as well, one in the front, one on the side and 2 on the back (antec case).

SergesPlace
Jan 18th, 2006, 02:00 PM
The best compound to use is Arctic Silver 5. Buy yourself an aftermarket heatsink, too.

It can not onlylower your temperatures, but it can achieve that in much quieter ways.

Remember when applying the compound on the CPU, don't use a lot. A pea-sized amount right in the middle is good. Then just smack the heatsink on, and lightly move it around - the compound will spread itself under there. Allow up to 5 days of operation for the compound to reach its complete efficiency rating.

arctic silver makes OCZ thermal so that tube from TG is the right stuff

willy
Jan 18th, 2006, 02:07 PM
I'm sorry but I don't know what does "on air" mean :?:
"On air" means the CPU is cooled by a heatsink with a fan blowing "air" to it. CPU can also be cooled by water.

hagbard
Jan 18th, 2006, 03:27 PM
Get any heatsink goo, AS is no better than any other. Its all marketing hype and the sheeple spreading it everywhere.

Div
Jan 18th, 2006, 04:00 PM
Oops...I just replaced my cpu fan and I like used the whole tube of paste that came with it. :cheesygri
The amount that comes with the CPU is usually close to single use. The tubes though have much more.

hagbard
Jan 18th, 2006, 04:45 PM
The amount that comes with the CPU is usually close to single use. The tubes though have much more.

No. There is way more in those than single use. You don't want to put more than a pea sized amount you will get overheating.

torontodragon
Jan 18th, 2006, 04:56 PM
flied CPU (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5393904704265757054&q=amd+cpu) :razz:

JuNGleR72
Jan 19th, 2006, 11:35 AM
So I cleaned out my computer from all the dust build up.
Applied the heatsink compound.

Everything seems ok now.

Thanks for the helps everyone. :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri

akito925
Jan 19th, 2006, 12:52 PM
0. Buy some Heat Sink Compound.
1. Disconnect the power cord.
2. Remove CPU & heat sink over CPU.
3. Gently remove any gunk between the CPU and heat sink where they touch
(using a plastic tool like a credit card on edge)
4. Apply a tiny amount a heat sink compound on the CPU (the less the better).
5. Spread it around with the plastic tool.
6. Reassemble heat sink & fan over CPU.
7. Plug power cord back in.

See your CPU run in he 30-40 degree C range.


I was thinking the same too.. probally the heatsink not making a good soild contact with the heatsink

koft
Jan 19th, 2006, 02:28 PM
So I cleaned out my computer from all the dust build up.
Applied the heatsink compound.

Everything seems ok now.

Thanks for the helps everyone. :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri


Good to hear that everything is fine, with that temperature you could have yourself an egg omelette on the CPU :razz: