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chadder
Mar 3rd, 2006, 03:38 PM
I'm looking to get some advice on what I should get in terms of a first car when I get out of school. I guess there are three main options:

1. Finance a new car - I'm really leaning against this one since the value drops so fast

2. Purchase a used car that is a few years old - something Japanese for around the $10,000 - $15,000 range

3. Purchase an older used car (again someting Japanese) for $5000 or so, and drive that for a few years before picking up something better.

I'm sorta between options 2 and 3. I will probably have enough to buy a car for 10,000 or so, but I'm wary to put almost all of my cash into something that is only going to decrease in value with time.

What do you guys recommend for a first car? Just get something that'll do the trick for a few years, or spend a bit extra for a nicer one right away that I can keep for years?

ji2o0k
Mar 3rd, 2006, 03:57 PM
i would suggest option number 3.

Cars are expenses, not investments. So like you mentioned, if you purchase new, depreciation is crazy the first 4 years with a significant drop in value of your car.

I would lean towards option 2 but you mentioned that would be all your money. And that wouldn't be wise.

Go with an older Japanese car. Like a 1994-1998 Acura integra , Honda Accord or Honda Civic. You can pick one up in the $5000 range for sure.

Make sure you bring along a trusted mechanic to inspect the car. See if the seller has the records of maintenance done on the car. Ask if any accidents etc.

The 1994-1998 years are really good for Japanese cars. My friend's Acura Integra is still going strong. He gets it rust-proofed every year and the car is looking so good.

Best of luck in your search !

KevC
Mar 4th, 2006, 04:42 PM
Anything fwd, <100hp, dirt cheap to insure and fix. It's your FIRST car, there's a high chance that you'd do something stupid and crash it. I said *CHANCE*, I'm not doubting your driving ability.

Mid nineties japanese cars are always good.

Anessa
Mar 4th, 2006, 04:49 PM
Get a Japanese beater and try to get one that's non rusty as you want a few winters out of it. I'd suggest like a mid 90s Accord or Civic but Civics are much harder to find in pristine condition and due to the fact ricers or young men love them for modding, etc. Even the 90s Camry would be a good deal now...and sucha lovely shape.

acck
Mar 4th, 2006, 05:06 PM
Agree with all the above. Generally speaking when u are out of school, you want a car. The main advantage of getting a older *** car is that it doesn't hurt when some slam their doors on your car. As well, after a few years you know what you want and make a better decision on a new car. My friend had the same situation, but he got a new car Suzuki Aerio. After having the car for a year he said he made the wrong decision and end up trading in for an Altima.

P.S. If you are getting a used car check
1) any maintence history
2) Waterpump + timing belt changed (it cost few hundred dollars to change)
3) If deal privately make sure have a mechanic check it out
4) Check if the car has been into a serious accident and rebuild.

afong56
Mar 4th, 2006, 05:07 PM
i'd echo some of the sentiments above--why take on more serious debt now, while you are still young? i'd see what $5k-8k can buy you that is jdm, and relatively rust free. it'll be cheaper to insure (liability only) and you won't have the heartache that goes with worrying about every ding and dent. that being said, try and get a stick--at least it'll be more fun to drive than an automatic.
keep in mind that there used to be a rule of thumb that most major components start going at about the 5 year mark, so see if you can find a car that has already had some of the major replacements done.
i'm glad that i waited until i was older before buying a decent car--i can actually afford it, and can enjoy it.

skev13
Mar 4th, 2006, 05:36 PM
Go with 3.

I own a 1993 Acura Integra GS.

Never had a Tune-up
375 000km and still going strong.

Very Reliable IMHO.

blue_xii
Mar 4th, 2006, 06:31 PM
If I was in your situation I'd go for the most affordable car I could get. An echo is a really good option if you want a car that is good on gas, depreciation and affordable. If you want something fancier I'd go for a late 90s or 2000 civic or corolla. Honda and Toyota are your best bets for a reliable car if you but used. I like the echo cause you can get a relatively well equipped one that isn't too old for about 10k. The only thing that makes me nervous about the car is it's small and wouldn't do well in an accident. Plus, I don't remember if there are models with ABS. Good luck and if you need the money then keep it conservative and you won't regret it.

JohnB
Mar 4th, 2006, 06:50 PM
Option #3.

If its your first car, get yourself something decent and nice, but dont spend all your cash on it. Maybe 5-8,000 plus or minus.

Save for a house or something at this stage. Or just put your money aside and get a nicer $$$ ride when you can better afford it when you have a solid job etc...

Civic, Integra, Accord, Celica, you can still get a nice reliable car in this range, then sell it in a few years and youd still get about 2,000 or whatever for it...

And Id imagine insurance is much more on a new 2007 so you save ever more money.

chadder
Mar 4th, 2006, 07:17 PM
All good advice, thanks. My first thinking was paying $5000+ for something over ten years old is a little iffy, but then I guess if you look at the fact that you could drive it for a couple years and its value wouldn't have dropped nearly as much as if I had bought a $15,000 car makes sense. So the amount I'm paying each year to drive the car is less in addition to requiring less cash upfront. Insurance is also another big factor I didn't think as much about, so looks like I could end up saving a lot of money if I stick with an older one for a few years anyway.

nx2k
Mar 4th, 2006, 11:13 PM
i always wondered, where guys have $15k for their first car in their teens or very early 20's
does everyone sell drugs now?
my first car was $2500

chadder
Mar 5th, 2006, 12:01 AM
i always wondered, where guys have $15k for their first car in their teens or very early 20's
does everyone sell drugs now?
my first car was $2500

Well for me it mostly comes from co-op in university. As long as I control my spending, I can usually make enough on co-op terms to more than offset the cost of the following school term, so I can actually gradually make money through university rather than getting further into debt.

heikesdad
Mar 5th, 2006, 06:35 AM
Go With an ECHO, we have one as a second car it's great on gas and the wife got rear ended a couple of years ago the civic that hit her had to be towed while the echo needed repair you could still open the back doors and trunk.

check autotrader.ca ($6400 for 2002 with 63,000km)

Hula
Mar 5th, 2006, 10:08 AM
Option #3 for sure! Buy used and take advantage of someone else having paid for the depreciation value. $5-7 can even get you some excellent deals these days, but I'd avoid Honda as you're still paying for the name plate. I'd get an older Mazda protege or Nissan Altima! (98-2001) Just my two cents.

faizalm
Mar 5th, 2006, 01:26 PM
Option #3 for sure! Buy used and take advantage of someone else having paid for the depreciation value. $5-7 can even get you some excellent deals these days, but I'd avoid Honda as you're still paying for the name plate. I'd get an older Mazda protege or Nissan Altima! (98-2001) Just my two cents.

do u mean to say that we pay xtra for the name "honda"?
i am not understanding it...

Anessa
Mar 5th, 2006, 01:45 PM
Option #3 for sure! Buy used and take advantage of someone else having paid for the depreciation value. $5-7 can even get you some excellent deals these days, but I'd avoid Honda as you're still paying for the name plate. I'd get an older Mazda protege or Nissan Altima! (98-2001) Just my two cents.

But every car you're paying for the name brand now isn't it?

PlayerOne
Mar 6th, 2006, 01:39 AM
DO NOT, buy a new car, my sister and her friend both both bought a new car as their first car and the both regret it like crazy now

DO NOT make the same mistake, i love cars to death, and i once said to myself when i was a kid, if i ever own one of those crappy buckets i'll let ophra sit on my head, but now that i'm older and have seen people around me buy cars and regret it, I can see clearly now, that the best way to go (unless you're rich to begin with) is to buy a bucket as a first car, and save up, then you can own a porche or whatever after a few years

DON"T do #1
i wouldn't go with #2
#3 is ok
if there's an option #4 - "Buy a 20 year old bucket", go with that

PS. make sure this bucket is in good condition and can last you that 3,4 years you save up for your real car

bensa138
Mar 6th, 2006, 10:28 AM
With the way the current trends in employment are I would say buy a car you can afford with the money you have rather than taking out a loan or finance cuz u never know what will happen.

Option 3 is what I would suggest, just make sure you get someone to look over the car with ya before you buy it.

I got myself a 95 Acura Integra GSR last September and its been running really good since the day I bought it.. a few little things here and there but I guess I'm lucky to have friends who are mechanically inclined :)