Gas Prices GTA Tonight are crazy.

[Iron Chef Ajax]

Was just out looking for a tank of gas in the GTA area. All I could find was 88.2 - What's going on? My tank needs 95L!

[marcsterr]

haha i filled up maybe around 11 and it was 82.5 at yonge/steeles

[Xiggy]

Stop complaining... 89.9 is the norm here. Today, prices were around 94.9 to 98.9

[Nismo]

here its 98.9

[Alvito]

what the heck do you drive? a tank?

My minivan takes 60l, and i thought that was a lot!

[Iron Chef Ajax]

what the heck do you drive? a tank?

My minivan takes 60l, and i thought that was a lot!
http://www.chevrolet.com/uplander/

[myapple]

what the heck do you drive? a tank?

My minivan takes 60l, and i thought that was a lot!
The ford windstar has a 98L tank.

[HighFlyer]

Fill up after 9PM, but before 12AM. Prices are always restored at midnight, that's the cycle everyday.

[700mb80min]

just filled up in N.S. ...96.9 . prices are supposed to rise this week i heard .

[FastFokker]

99.9 in Halifax..

It dropped to something like 94.5 a couple weeks ago, and that was the lowest in a looooooooooooong time.

I wouldn't be crying over 88.2!

[DragonZealot]

Go get one of this (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261254) .

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[teknoluv]

My minivan takes 60l, and i thought that was a lot!
Not really, even my sedan (Pontiac Grand Prix) take about 55L when full.

[Bullseye]

I wonder why they make vehicles with such big tanks, when the engine only a V6?

If I owned one of these vehicles, I would never put more than a quarter or half tank in it. Think of what all the extra weight of hauling a full tank does to your gas mileage!

[tsis3]

Not really, even my sedan (Pontiac Grand Prix) take about 55L when full.

Yes, my G35 takes 76L, my MDX takes 77L and my S70 takes 72L ;)

[weilyan]

Was just out looking for a tank of gas in the GTA area. All I could find was 88.2 - What's going on? My tank needs 95L!

i would like it if price were 88.2 instead of of 94.9 in Montreal

[Audiogenic]

i would like it if price were 88.2 instead of of 94.9 in Montreal

Quebec buys their gas separate from everyone else to ensure they keep their theory inline that they are better than English Canada.

[Taiphun]

went from 84.9 to 92.9 here in Calgary.

ouch!

[silvermist99]

??? I just filled up at 79.5 @ finch & VP

[RBK]

My tank is 45L. :D. 80.9. $33 full tank. ;)

[corrupt123]

Just filled at 79.5 at dupont and lansdowne in toronto. Further east along dupont the entire stretch is in the 81 cent range.

Too bad I drive a guzzler. put in $35 and that didnt even top it off (filled it from about 1/4full)

[mau108]

honda prelude --> 60L but the light comes on at around 48ish and i end up filling up 50L

http://www.torontogasprices.com is your friend.

[gh05t]

Temperatures rising constantly until the weekend when it's forecasted to hit 14 degrees in southern Ontario so the Oil companies decided to get a jump on things.

[gman]

Fill up at 81.9 in my area.

[HighFlyer]

Filled up at 78.9. As I was pulling out of the station, the numbers started scrolling on the sign board. '8' was the first digit, '8' or '9' was the second digit, couldn't catch the last one.

[MameXP]

Sucks to be SUV owners..... :lol:

This is why i'm gonna get either Fit or Yariz for city driving as well as winter car. Getting rid of this V6 Accord already

[Edgelust]

I wonder why they make vehicles with such big tanks, when the engine only a V6?

If I owned one of these vehicles, I would never put more than a quarter or half tank in it. Think of what all the extra weight of hauling a full tank does to your gas mileage!

Good point about the extra weight...but...in my car ('99 Grand Am) if you run the tank low it seems to have a negative impact on the fuel-pump. Check out the "countless" other common problems with the newer Grand Ams at www.grandamgt.com.

[FastFokker]

It's always recommended to run your vehicle with as full a tank as possible. The more air in the tank means the more water that can condense out of that air and water in your tank is never good.

20L of fuel weighs about 32lbs
50L of fuel weighs about 80lbs

So running on a consistently low tank level will not save you much in weight, but it will add a lot of saturated air into your tank. Not to mention as already stated that some vehicles use the fuel itself to keep the fuel pump cool, with consistent low fuel levels, you can burn out your pump prematurely.

[Bullseye]

It's always recommended to run your vehicle with as full a tank as possible. The more air in the tank means the more water that can condense out of that air and water in your tank is never good.

20L of fuel weighs about 32lbs
50L of fuel weighs about 80lbs

So running on a consistently low tank level will not save you much in weight, but it will add a lot of saturated air into your tank. Not to mention as already stated that some vehicles use the fuel itself to keep the fuel pump cool, with consistent low fuel levels, you can burn out your pump prematurely.

Never knew that. Do you have a link where I can read more about this?

[FastFokker]

Never knew that. Do you have a link where I can read more about this?I don't have a link, but there must be something on google.. I'll do a couple searches.

Do you mean specifically about condensation from air in your tank, or specifically of some fuel pumps using fuel as cooling agent, or both?

[Bullseye]

Thanks! I mean about air in the tank, and the weight of gasoline. I always assumed it was much heavier, but I hadn't really thought about it much before.

[kingsley]

I don't have a link, but there must be something on google.. I'll do a couple searches.

Do you mean specifically about condensation from air in your tank, or specifically of some fuel pumps using fuel as cooling agent, or both?

I think just the idea of filling up your car as oppose to just half filling so that you don't have to drive around with the extra weight.

[r1lee]

went from 84.9 to 92.9 here in Calgary.

ouch!

But you guy's get that back in the form of that rebate cheque, don't you?

[FastFokker]

Thanks! I mean about air in the tank, and the weight of gasoline. I always assumed it was much heavier, but I hadn't really thought about it much before.Well the weight of the fuel fluctuates per temperature (colder=heavier), I just used the factor (1.59lbs/L) for Aviation Grade fuel at standard temperature (15C). In comparison the factor drops to 1.56lbs/L @ 30C and rises to 1.65lbs/L @ -20C.

As for condensation in the tank, it stands to reason that with air comes moisture, and when the outside temperature drops, thus cooling the tank, the air inside remains warm(er) and moist, that vapour reaches dew point saturation and comes out of solution in the form of liquid water.

That's not necessarily a terrible thing, but can corrode metal in tanks, or in the event of significantly low temperatures, you'll get fuel line freezing as the water is more dense than the fuel and sinks to the bottom of the tank, where the fuel line intake is at.

So anyway, it's not a major issue for every vehicle, but if you could keep the tank more fuel and keep less moisture from condensing, it's just a safer thing.

SCIENCE RULES!

[Bullseye]

FF - Cool, sounds like you know your stuff. I'll keep this in mind from now on.

[nx2k]

Well the weight of the fuel fluctuates per temperature (colder=heavier), I just used the factor (1.59lbs/L) for Aviation Grade fuel at standard temperature (15C). In comparison the factor drops to 1.56lbs/L @ 30C and rises to 1.65lbs/L @ -20C.

As for condensation in the tank, it stands to reason that with air comes moisture, and when the outside temperature drops, thus cooling the tank, the air inside remains warm(er) and moist, that vapour reaches dew point saturation and comes out of solution in the form of liquid water.

That's not necessarily a terrible thing, but can corrode metal in tanks, or in the event of significantly low temperatures, you'll get fuel line freezing as the water is more dense than the fuel and sinks to the bottom of the tank, where the fuel line intake is at.

So anyway, it's not a major issue for every vehicle, but if you could keep the tank more fuel and keep less moisture from condensing, it's just a safer thing.

SCIENCE RULES!
condensation is slower when liquids are moving, so in the case of a car being driven everyday, this wouldn't apply, if you are storing a car or doesn't move much, then ua re absolutely right to keep the tank full.
in terms of fuel efficiency, the less fuel you have in the tank will gain you more kilometreage
so for the people who are filling up becuz it's 1 cent cheaper, they are actually losing the savings

[boonjaca]

Anyone know what prices are tonight?

[frankeng2003]

Gasoline is sold by volume. So the best time to fill up is early in the morning or late at night. At mid day, warm weather causes the gasoline to expand. You could save from 1 to 3 percent.

[CSR]

Gasoline is sold by volume. So the best time to fill up is early in the morning or late at night. At mid day, warm weather causes the gasoline to expand. You could save from 1 to 3 percent.

Wow, science at work!

So filling up in the winter gets you more volume than in the summer?

[FastFokker]

Gasoline is sold by volume. So the best time to fill up is early in the morning or late at night. At mid day, warm weather causes the gasoline to expand. You could save from 1 to 3 percent.I've never heard this before, though I'm not saying it's not true. Just to clarify to some others on how the volume is corrected:

By far the most meaningful difference in the way gasoline is sold in Canada relates to the concept of "Volume Corrected to 15º C". The volume of gasoline, propane or diesel fuel, like that of any other liquid, varies according to its temperature. A brochure published by Industry Canada's Weights and Measures Division entitled "Volume Corrected to 15º C" states, in part "..the technology that works as follows: A temperature sensor continuously measures the temperature as the fuel is being metered. It transmits the readings to an electronic register, which automatically selects the right correction factor and applies it to the amount of fuel to calculate the volume at 15º C. So, when you see the words "Volume Corrected to 15º C", you know that the volume of energy your fuel dollar buys is not influenced by the temperature of the fuel."

nx2k: I have no idea what you're talking about.

[DragonZealot]

I've never heard this before, though I'm not saying it's not true. Just to clarify to some others on how the volume is corrected:

By far the most meaningful difference in the way gasoline is sold in Canada relates to the concept of "Volume Corrected to 15º C". The volume of gasoline, propane or diesel fuel, like that of any other liquid, varies according to its temperature. A brochure published by Industry Canada's Weights and Measures Division entitled "Volume Corrected to 15º C" states, in part "..the technology that works as follows: A temperature sensor continuously measures the temperature as the fuel is being metered. It transmits the readings to an electronic register, which automatically selects the right correction factor and applies it to the amount of fuel to calculate the volume at 15º C. So, when you see the words "Volume Corrected to 15º C", you know that the volume of energy your fuel dollar buys is not influenced by the temperature of the fuel."

nx2k: I have no idea what you're talking about.

Good finding.