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Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:52 AM
i`ve seen the photos and now the video : plane landing (http://www.compfused.com/directlink/1280/)

najibs
Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:56 AM
Yup, that airport is world known for those low approaches. Go to airliners.net and search for 'Princess Juliana' which is the airport name and you'll see tons of pics...

FastFokker
Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:58 AM
I can't even imagine how people go on that beach without ear protection...

MadCow
Mar 22nd, 2006, 01:04 PM
Planes fly pretty low off of Airport Rd. at the Toronto Airport, but what's shown in the video is insane.

That'd be cool to see.

DCat
Mar 22nd, 2006, 01:30 PM
I can't even imagine how people go on that beach without ear protection...

I agree. I highly doubt it is a beach for the family of four.

DCat,

Computer500
Mar 22nd, 2006, 02:05 PM
what would happen if someoone threw a big piece of rock into one of the engines?

FastFokker
Mar 22nd, 2006, 02:07 PM
what would happen if someoone threw a big piece of rock into one of the engines?They would be the strongest person on earth.. It may look low, but the plane is still VERY high.

In any event, at that point in time they are committed to land, so they would just land potentially an engine failure.. though mostlikely the rock wouldn't do much.

jollyeskimo
Mar 22nd, 2006, 02:09 PM
what would happen if someoone threw a big piece of rock into one of the engines?

Not sure about a rock, but those engines are supposed to be able to take significant pieces of debris without problems..... and supposed to shred birds and the such with only a small drop in total output.

Mintmaster
Mar 22nd, 2006, 02:26 PM
what would happen if someoone threw a big piece of rock into one of the engines?
On top of what jollyeskimo said, turbofan engines used in passenger airliners only spin up to around 3000RPM at maximum thrust. It could be less than half of that when landing.

So we're talking about ~20 revolutions per second. I wouldn't expect a catastrophe or anything.

eelfliw
Mar 22nd, 2006, 03:39 PM
The Toronto Island Airport has pretty low landing approaches too - esp for larger planes. Its just that one has to be in a boat to get the experience.

P__S__2
Mar 22nd, 2006, 03:44 PM
damn thats low..i wonder how the ppl inside feel

Rokkin
Mar 22nd, 2006, 04:24 PM
They would be the strongest person on earth.. It may look low, but the plane is still VERY high.

In any event, at that point in time they are committed to land, so they would just land potentially an engine failure.. though mostlikely the rock wouldn't do much.



IF by some chance someone was to get a rock into the engine, for sure it would destroy it. Not necessarily a total loss, but that's definitely an engine change.

I've seen engine changes for bird strikes as well. (I use to work in the industry).

najibs
Mar 22nd, 2006, 04:28 PM
The Toronto Island Airport has pretty low landing approaches too - esp for larger planes. Its just that one has to be in a boat to get the experience.


Yeah because the larger airplanes will require more runway to stop, so they have to do a short field landing since the longest runway at YTZ is 4000 feet. On the 172's I fly, I can land halfway down the runway and still stop with plenty of space remaining...

eelfliw
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:12 PM
Yeah because the larger airplanes will require more runway to stop, so they have to do a short field landing since the longest runway at YTZ is 4000 feet. On the 172's I fly, I can land halfway down the runway and still stop with plenty of space remaining...
4000 feet is enough to land even a Boing 737. Although I've never seen a 737 there before. Would be interesting to have a 737 land there and watch it from a boat.

FastFokker
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:12 PM
Well if we presumed the aircraft was about 1000' from the touchdown point and is coming in at around 3°.. if my math is correct, that aircraft would be ~140FT in the air.. that's quite a height to throw a heavy rock straight up. Even if we guessed 500' from t.d. it's still ~70FT.

On top of what jollyeskimo said, turbofan engines used in passenger airliners only spin up to around 3000RPM at maximum thrust. It could be less than half of that when landing.Is that true? I would have expected much higher, more into the 10's of thousands of RPM.

Are you speaking specifically of the bypass fans? Sounds like a good research project.

The Toronto Island Airport has pretty low landing approaches too - esp for larger planes. Its just that one has to be in a boat to get the experience.I actually flew into City Centre on a visual approach to RWY26 a few years ago in a Piper Seminole... it goes right along the waterfront and was definitely one of the most beautiful approaches I've ever experienced.

lithiumli
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:18 PM
ya i've seen alot of pics of that place, but this is the first time i've seen it on vidoe very cool. and ya you would need to have ear plugs or you'll go deaf.

Carnage
Mar 22nd, 2006, 09:11 PM
I think if some idiot was standing on a beach throwing rocks at planes, someone would probably do something about it.

tiggerpooh
Mar 22nd, 2006, 09:53 PM
I'll be going to st. maarten in May, I've been thinking of checking this out in person :cheesygri

FastFokker
Mar 22nd, 2006, 09:57 PM
I'll be going to st. maarten in May, I've been thinking of checking this out in person :cheesygriGet some pictures! You should have no problem getting there, the island is so small.

Funny thing I heard is to mail a letter from one side of the island to the other, it actually goes all the way to europe and then gets sent back.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Saint_martin_map.PNG/682px-Saint_martin_map.PNG

tiggerpooh
Mar 22nd, 2006, 10:21 PM
Get some pictures! You should have no problem getting there, the island is so small.

Funny thing I heard is to mail a letter from one side of the island to the other, it actually goes all the way to europe and then gets sent back.


yeah, I'll probably just hope on a taxi and go there and get some pics and videos....can't wait