View Full Version : Trying to Connect two routers together - What am I doing wrong?
HoTiCE_
Apr 8th, 2006, 01:40 PM
Ok so I have a Linksys/Cisco wireless router thats working perfectly. Unfortunately, the range is not enough so I just bought a Trendware wireless router for my room so i can also have additional ports to plug the xbox in.
Here's my setup:
Main Linksys:
IP: 192.168.1.1
DHCP enabled, range: 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.150
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1 (i don't think i can change this on the router anyways)
Trendware Wireless Router:
Plugged into Regular Switch port of Linksys router into Regular Switch port of Trendware Router ( NOT WAN PORT) with a standard CAT5 straight cable (do i need cross-over?)
IP: 192.168.1.2
DHCP DISABLED
Default Gateway: I know I should set it to 192.168.1.1 but I can't find where i can set that up
I've tried setting the WAN section of the Trendware to STATIC IP: 192.168.1.2, default gateway: 192.168.1.1. Subnet: 255.255.255.0
It won't work correctly, any computer plugged into the Trendware router can't see anything beyond it (other router and/or Internet)
Any thoughts?
dmdsoftware2
Apr 8th, 2006, 02:58 PM
Ok so I have a Linksys/Cisco wireless router thats working perfectly. Unfortunately, the range is not enough so I just bought a Trendware wireless router for my room so i can also have additional ports to plug the xbox in.
Here's my setup:
Main Linksys:
IP: 192.168.1.1
DHCP enabled, range: 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.150
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1 (i don't think i can change this on the router anyways)
Trendware Wireless Router:
Plugged into Regular Switch port of Linksys router into Regular Switch port of Trendware Router ( NOT WAN PORT) with a standard CAT5 straight cable (do i need cross-over?)
IP: 192.168.1.2
DHCP DISABLED
Default Gateway: I know I should set it to 192.168.1.1 but I can't find where i can set that up
I've tried setting the WAN section of the Trendware to STATIC IP: 192.168.1.2, default gateway: 192.168.1.1. Subnet: 255.255.255.0
It won't work correctly, any computer plugged into the Trendware router can't see anything beyond it (other router and/or Internet)
Any thoughts?
I'm pretty sure you need a cross-over, but I'm not certain.
willy
Apr 8th, 2006, 03:14 PM
I'm pretty sure you need a cross-over, but I'm not certain.
If the LAN ports on either routers has Auto MDI/MDI-X switching, X-over cable is not required.
ghosty
Apr 9th, 2006, 12:49 AM
Ok so I have a Linksys/Cisco wireless router thats working perfectly. Unfortunately, the range is not enough so I just bought a Trendware wireless router for my room so i can also have additional ports to plug the xbox in.
Here's my setup:
Main Linksys:
IP: 192.168.1.1
DHCP enabled, range: 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.150
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1 (i don't think i can change this on the router anyways)
Trendware Wireless Router:
Plugged into Regular Switch port of Linksys router into Regular Switch port of Trendware Router ( NOT WAN PORT) with a standard CAT5 straight cable (do i need cross-over?)
IP: 192.168.1.2
DHCP DISABLED
Default Gateway: I know I should set it to 192.168.1.1 but I can't find where i can set that up
I've tried setting the WAN section of the Trendware to STATIC IP: 192.168.1.2, default gateway: 192.168.1.1. Subnet: 255.255.255.0
It won't work correctly, any computer plugged into the Trendware router can't see anything beyond it (other router and/or Internet)
Any thoughts?
Give the Trendware router an IP that doesn’t conflict with the main router's base IP address, or the DHCP server range (so > .150 )
magical
Apr 9th, 2006, 04:47 AM
Do you see a link light on each router for the corresponding port?
If no link light, your setup is correct, check cables...
Jayhoo
Apr 9th, 2006, 06:20 AM
Everything looks ok, except for the WAN setup on the trendware. For all intents and purposes, when you disable DHCP on the router it should just be a switch and should not need any sort of WAN settings.
willy
Apr 9th, 2006, 07:02 AM
Everything looks ok, except for the WAN setup on the trendware. For all intents and purposes, when you disable DHCP on the router it should just be a switch and should not need any sort of WAN settings.
Oh, that reminds me one thing too. *BEFORE* your disable the DHCP in Trendware wireless router, activate the WPA (or WEP, and all other security settings).
Intense
Apr 9th, 2006, 07:09 AM
AS A SWITCH (note WAN-LAN port configurations)
1. Verify DHCP is DISABLED on Trendware
2. Connect the Trendware WAN (not LAN) to the Linsys LAN (not WAN) port with a STANDARD cable
3. Verify LINK LIGHT is ON
4. Trendware will get an IP address from the Linksys and will act as a switch
This "should" work for you.....
willy
Apr 9th, 2006, 07:21 AM
AS A SWITCH (note WAN-LAN port configurations)
1. Verify DHCP is DISABLED on Trendware
2. Connect the Trendware WAN (not LAN) to the Linsys LAN (not WAN) port with a STANDARD cable
3. Verify LINK LIGHT is ON
4. Trendware will get an IP address from the Linksys and will act as a switch
This "should" work for you.....
While using WAN port is possible for internet access, it might create problems between the communication of machines from the 2 routers.
ctam
Apr 9th, 2006, 09:13 AM
Willy,
I have a similair problem like that at work between a router and wireless "switch".
It is quite a mess. I got one comp to connected to the network wirelessly and that's that. My boss switched me to antoher project before i have a chance ot really set it up good.
Let me check the connection at work.
I think what i did was on the wireless:
- disabled DHCP
- enabled wireless setting
- connect wireless to router through the LAN ports (no WAN is used)
I also use static IP just so that it is esaier to work with.
WHen u use DHCP, I assume the wireless comp is able to grab a IP from the wired router?? If that's the case, i think u are pretty close to getting it set up right.
HoTiCE_
Apr 10th, 2006, 10:30 AM
Do you see a link light on each router for the corresponding port?
If no link light, your setup is correct, check cables...
yeah i see the lights blinking...
oh well i'll try it again by changing the IP of the Trendware to put it out of range of first router
& plugging it into the WAN port
tubs
Apr 12th, 2006, 12:11 AM
don't know if you still need help, but I found this...
http://duxcw.com/faq/network/uplink.htm
magical
Apr 12th, 2006, 01:24 AM
yeah i see the lights blinking...
oh well i'll try it again by changing the IP of the Trendware to put it out of range of first router
& plugging it into the WAN port
The wan port is a incorrect solution.
Basically unless your trendnet and the other router are sharing the same ip, and as long as DHCP is turned off on the trendnet it will work...
If you do what the person above is saying and use the WAN to connect the trendnet to the other router, this should work but its incorrect as you will now have two networks with the computers on the trendnet still having internet access but only able to access the computers that are local (on the ports) to it and not on the other router.
Since you are using DHCP on the other router, basically if correcly hooked up, the other router will assign the IP addresses and basically you are only using the unit as a SWITCH ...
jerryhung
Apr 12th, 2006, 09:12 AM
Ok so I have a Linksys/Cisco wireless router thats working perfectly. Unfortunately, the range is not enough so I just bought a Trendware wireless router for my room so i can also have additional ports to plug the xbox in.
Here's my setup:
Main Linksys:
IP: 192.168.1.1
DHCP enabled, range: 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.150
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1 (i don't think i can change this on the router anyways)
Trendware Wireless Router:
Plugged into Regular Switch port of Linksys router into Regular Switch port of Trendware Router ( NOT WAN PORT) with a standard CAT5 straight cable (do i need cross-over?)
IP: 192.168.1.2
DHCP DISABLED
Default Gateway: I know I should set it to 192.168.1.1 but I can't find where i can set that up
I've tried setting the WAN section of the Trendware to STATIC IP: 192.168.1.2, default gateway: 192.168.1.1. Subnet: 255.255.255.0
It won't work correctly, any computer plugged into the Trendware router can't see anything beyond it (other router and/or Internet)
Any thoughts?
The setup looks okay to me, maybe
- you don't need to set the WAN up since you do NOT use the WAN port (yes, use the LAN - LAN port, and no X-over cable)
- give Trendnet router a different IP (say 192.168.2.1)
- test your machines behind Trendnet to see what IP they got (either 192.168.1.x or 192.168.2.x <- DHCP is still on)
If not, try reset Trendnet again
1. don't hook it on Linksys yet, just configure it locally (WiFi, IP)
2. connect to the Linksys network on the LAN port (NOT WAN)
HoTiCE_
Apr 12th, 2006, 06:52 PM
Ok so I've tried just about everything and I still can't get it to work.
Here's a recap
Linksys/Cisco WRT54GTX2 (mid-high end router)
IP: 192.168.1.1
DHCP ENABLED
RANGE: 192.168.1.100 -> 192.168.1.149
Trendnet Router Model BRP-432 (crappy low-end)
IP: 192.168.2.1
DHCP DISABLED
Plugged in Regular LAN PORTS (NOT WAN although that didn't work either)
My computer is plugged into the Trendnet Router
1) Config: Dynamic IP
It tries to get an adress from the Linksys DHCP server but fails after some time
2) Config: Static IP 192.168.1.107, subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway:192.168.1.1
Connects to Trendnet router - No Internet and can't see Linksys
For some reason, the Trendnet REFUSES to act like a switch.
Is there any hope for me?
prynce_qt
Apr 12th, 2006, 09:36 PM
your problem is trendnet router, your suppose to set the static ip to a range that your router is dynamically allowing. you set it as 192.1.1.100-149 yet you set your trendnet router to 192.168.2.1 which makes no sense as they are in different subnets. make the trendnet router ip 192.168.1.149 with gateway 192.168.1.1 and connect both router through the regular LAN ports each router. you should be able to ping both routers from a connected machine after that and still go into its web-based configuration with their ip address.
jerryhung
Apr 12th, 2006, 10:02 PM
other ways include
1. just test Trendnet directly with its WAN connected to your DSL/cable connection to see if the router works or not
2. Swap the linksys/Trendnet router
3. Find a cheap switch :)
magical
Apr 12th, 2006, 10:16 PM
i have 5 port gigabit switch that I'll let go pretty cheap! ... works great supports large frames. plus you'd get some gigabit connectivity...
pm me if interested
HoTiCE_
Apr 12th, 2006, 11:43 PM
I guess something's wrong with the Trendnet router, I just can't get it to work...
:(
SmartBen
Apr 13th, 2006, 11:33 AM
Does your wirelss router has different IP ranges between wireless connection and wired connection?