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ChazRegal
Apr 26th, 2006, 09:03 PM
WWW.ENTERPRISE.COM
If you rent a car any weekend you will get an amazing deal.
The rental must begin on the Friday and must be returned that Monday (3 days).
Prices start at $15.25 CAD/day for Compact and upto $18.10 CAD/day for Full Size.
You can't even get a compact for under 20 bucks anywhere else in Toronto.
The best part is no coupon or code is required. As long as you reserve online and it's for Friday-Monday, the discount will automatically apply.
I rent every weekend and those are the cheapest rates you'll find anywhere in Ontario.
I think the full size is the best deal for your buck at only $18/day.
aingaran
Apr 26th, 2006, 09:28 PM
Amazing price if you want drive within Ontario. Sucks if you want to leave Ontario.
Pick up Friday @ Noon.
Drop off MOnday @ Noon
$63.82 (includes GST & PST)
kiasu
Apr 26th, 2006, 09:48 PM
yea..just made a reservation this noon.......
was looking for the $9.99 deal but too bad didnt see anything
mikey411
Apr 26th, 2006, 09:55 PM
how r they gonna know that u left ontario? :D
aingaran
Apr 26th, 2006, 10:01 PM
They won't know if nothing happens.. God forbid, something happens.. Then, they'll know, and I'm guessing you'd be in a heap of trouble.
gaore
Apr 26th, 2006, 11:09 PM
Good deal. But EP does not rent vehicle to 25- with G2 licence.
djaly
Apr 26th, 2006, 11:10 PM
^^ who cares as long as your insurance covers you wtvr,
BeaverLiquor
Apr 27th, 2006, 12:26 AM
i rented a dakota from them a few months back and it was pretty much brand new and i'm under 25 but then again i have my g.
i think you have to have a g license to rent cars.
maxgohan
Apr 27th, 2006, 12:46 AM
anyone know of a place that rents to 20 year olds with full g liscences?
im like a month away from turning 21 :-0
Bat1983
Apr 27th, 2006, 02:45 AM
There's a Thrifty at Warden/Lawrence that basically rents to everyone as long as you have a G2. They have pretty good deals as well. Last time I rented from them, I paid about $150 for the weekend with everything inclusive and I took it to Montreal. They gave me a PT Cruiser. It would've cost me about $250 anywhere else and I would've been the only driver. My gf was included as a second driver.
Instagator
Apr 27th, 2006, 02:49 AM
You don't need to be 25. Enterprise rents to 19 and over but what they require of you is a 250 deposit I think (they may have changed it) ... I know this because I used to rent from them all the time when they had unlimited KM. You can go out of Ontario if you ask. Not sure about the g2 part though, I highly doubt you need g to rent.
purdy99
Apr 27th, 2006, 03:25 AM
If you're rental contract specifies that the vehicle will not be driven out of province, but you do so anyways, and get in an accident, then your insurance will absolutely not cover you.
^^ who cares as long as your insurance covers you wtvr,
Super strokey
Apr 27th, 2006, 04:16 AM
If you're rental contract specifies that the vehicle will not be driven out of province, but you do so anyways, and get in an accident, then your insurance will absolutely not cover you.
Dont forget that the contract is classified as null as well and you get black listed with the company (i do it all the time lol)
tchai
Apr 27th, 2006, 08:39 AM
^^ who cares as long as your insurance covers you wtvr,
Does it mean its okay to tell them you will be within Ontario but you leave the province (maybe to US?)
VivienM
Apr 27th, 2006, 08:45 AM
They won't know if nothing happens.. God forbid, something happens.. Then, they'll know, and I'm guessing you'd be in a heap of trouble.
They might have GPS tracking devices, too... at which point they know the car has been out of Ontario and promptly charge you the out-of-Ontario price.
Jono
Apr 27th, 2006, 09:06 AM
From New York Times: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CEFDB1230F930A25752C0A9629C8B 63&sec=travel&pagewanted=all
BUSINESS TRAVEL; Some Rental Cars Are Keeping Tabs on the Drivers
By CHRISTOPHER ELLIOTT
Published: January 13, 2004
Byungsoo Son's recent western trip was mostly for pleasure. But the car rental bill he was hit with at the end is a cautionary tale for the business travelers who make up the bulk of the auto rental industry's customers.
Mr. Son, who manages a grocery store in Georgetown, Ontario, and his wife, Junghyun, picked up a Ford Escort at a Payless Car Rental outlet in November in San Francisco -- their son, Jaehwa, is an intern for a credit card company there -- and embarked on a 12-day road trip with him.
First, they drove to Las Vegas, 50 miles east of the California state line, and from there 200 miles to the Grand Canyon in Arizona, before circling back to Palm Springs, Calif. They then traveled west to the coast to drive on the scenic state Highway 1 back to Northern California.
Mr. Son received a shock when he returned the car. The $259.51 bill he expected had ballooned to $3,405.05 -- most of it a result of a $1-a-mile fee for each of the 2,874 miles driven. It turned out that by crossing the state line, he had violated his contract with Payless.
''If we had known we couldn't drive the car outside California, we wouldn't have rented it,'' Mr. Son said.
Penalties for taking a rental vehicle beyond state lines or national borders are not new. But the way in which Mr. Son's surcharge was applied was somewhat novel. The rental company presented him with a map showing his exact route outside California as relayed by a tracking device in his car. Mr. Son said he was surprised to learn that his movements were being tracked. A letter was included with the bill. ''Should you choose to dispute this amount,'' wrote Umesh Pudasaini, the Payless branch manager, ''we will pursue all avenues'' to collect full payment. Car rental companies have come to rely on an emerging technology called telematics -- which combines satellite-based Global Positioning System tracking, wireless communications and vehicle monitoring systems -- to keep tabs on their vehicles. About a quarter of the rental cars in the United States are equipped with tracking technology, analysts estimate. The industry views telematics as a way to enforce its contracts, but some customers regard it, at best, as a means to make more money and, at worst, as an invasion of privacy.
Neil Abrams, an auto rental consultant, said early uses of G.P.S. technology in rental cars, like the Hertz NeverLost system, were intended to help motorists find their way. But recent efforts have quietly focused on catching renters who drive out of state or break speed laws.
The car rental industry already has a reputation for high gasoline-refill charges and airport use fees, among other items, and business travelers are concerned that telematics will offer yet another opportunity for companies to impose additional charges.
Donna Williams, a former investment banker, is worried about another potential drawback. ''You don't always want your car rental company knowing where you're going,'' said Ms. Williams, the author of ''The Business Travel Almanac'' (Que Publishing, 2004). ''What if you're doing your due diligence on a transaction, and you've rented a car with a tracking device? If your rental company knows who you are, which company you work for, and where you are, it could threaten the whole deal. It could even be used as insider trading information.''
Mr. Abrams says it is not always easy to tell if a car is being monitored, although the fine print of a rental contract should disclose the fact. ''It could be anything from an antenna on your rental car to something that's internal and can't be seen,'' he said. Some tracking technologies simply relay a car's coordinates back to a rental franchisee, though more sophisticated versions can keep tabs on any damage to the vehicle and even disengage the engine by remote control if the car is stolen or driven out of the country.
''When you put a perfect stranger in a $30,000 vehicle, you have to protect yourself,'' Mr. Abrams said.
The customers also need to be protected, said Mari Anne Sullivan, president of the Association of Car and Truck Rental Independents and Franchisees. ''There are liability issues when you take a car out of state, and the tracking devices also help prevent theft,'' Ms. Sullivan said. ''That keeps rental costs down.''
But Mr. Son contends profit also plays a part. He said he made his itinerary before reserving the car and never hid his plans from Payless. He also says the agent at the rental counter neither asked him where he intended to go or told him of the restrictions. Mr. Son admitted that he did not read the contract.
''There were many customers waiting behind us, and I felt rushed to sign the contract,'' he said.
If Mr. Son had taken the time to read the fine print, he would have seen a disclosure in an addendum to his rental contract warning that the vehicle might be equipped with a tracking device and that driving outside California would cost him $1 a mile or more.
Payless confirmed the restrictions in an e-mail message it sent to the customer, but Mr. Son's son made the booking on his behalf, so he did not see it.
Mr. Son appealed his bill to Payless and to the Acceleron Corporation, the owner of the San Francisco Payless franchise. In an internal memorandum to Mike Harley, Payless's president and chief operating officer, Kathy Johnson, the company vice president, reported that ''the client was informed of the geographical restrictions throughout the reservation and rental process.''
Ms. Johnson says the San Francisco franchisee has had geographic restrictions on its cars ''for a number of years,'' and that it added tracking devices gradually to its fleet in 2003.
Payless deferred to its franchisee for a decision on Mr. Son's request. Mr. Pudasaini turned him down. ''You violated the signed rental agreement and jeopardized our company and your family,'' he wrote in an e-mail message to Mr. Son. ''You planned this trip in advance but decided to conceal your intent.''
Jaehwa Son, who was present when the car was picked up and returned, denied his father hid anything from Payless. ''Why would anyone even try to risk a $3,400 car rental bill by concealing that kind of information?'' he asked. ''We just didn't know about the rule.''
Mr. Son also considers the tracking device an invasion of his privacy. He is disputing his credit card charge and is considering suing Payless, contending that, among other things, it failed adequately to disclose the tracking device and violated his right to privacy.
It would not be the first time a motorist has taken a car rental company to court over a tracking device. In 2002, a Budget Rent A Car franchisee in Tucson was sued by at least four customers after they were billed $1 a mile for crossing specified state lines, with the extra fees for two of them totaling more than $7,000. The cases were settled out of court, and the Budget franchisee no longer charges $1 a mile for rentals taken beyond areas authorized by its rental agreements.
Perhaps the most high-profile tracking case to date involved Acme Rent-a-Car in New Haven, which imposed $150 fines on customers each time they drove more than 79 miles an hour for two or more minutes. In one instance, a customer was charged $450 for his driving.
In February 2002, the Department of Consumer Protection ordered the company to stop fining its customers and to refund the penalties, arguing that the tracking devices were inadequately disclosed and the fines were excessive.
ChazRegal
Apr 27th, 2006, 10:14 AM
Apply for a TD Visa Gold Select credit card and it will cover your insurance so you don't have to pay the rediculous $22/day cost of their insurance.
ChazRegal
Apr 27th, 2006, 10:15 AM
I forgot to add, it's probably the only credit card that has car rental coverage and NO ANNUAL FEES!!
dgr81
Apr 27th, 2006, 11:02 AM
I forgot to add, it's probably the only credit card that has car rental coverage and NO ANNUAL FEES!!
there are more than one.
RBC Visa Platinum is no-fee as well and covers the fees.
hegoru
Apr 27th, 2006, 11:13 AM
I've tried to book with this deal for weeks. Does the promotion not apply for June? I'm trying the June 2-4 weekend. Keeps saying its expired
snow_white
Apr 27th, 2006, 11:42 AM
I rented for the weekend and paid $65(tax incl). I was going to Montreal and the States and complained how "other" car rentals offer unlimited outside province kms... (e.g. Hertz) and Enterprise honoured it..but I paid an extra $10 for outside...cause their excuse was their $15/day was cheaper than competitors ($21/day)..which in the end was still about $10 cheaper. Also used my gold select Visa every time...and btw..if you're under 25 they will want to make sure you are insured on other vehicle or leave a deposit..BUT everytime we rent from Enterprise they waive the under 25 fee:)
Efx
Apr 27th, 2006, 11:46 AM
Good post! Just put my reservations for the weekend. Full size does seem like the best deal. Total came out to $63.82. Hopefully i can get the Impala.
NewsyL
Apr 27th, 2006, 04:04 PM
There's a Thrifty at Warden/Lawrence that basically rents to everyone as long as you have a G2. They have pretty good deals as well. Last time I rented from them, I paid about $150 for the weekend with everything inclusive and I took it to Montreal. They gave me a PT Cruiser. It would've cost me about $250 anywhere else and I would've been the only driver. My gf was included as a second driver.
Sometimes the daily rate is only part of the potential cost. Which is why I'll never rent from Thrifty again.
Their Calgary office insisted I pay over $350 to replace a windshield that had a pit in it, not a star, not a hole, a pit smaller then a peppercorn and less than half as deep. What they call "road rash" in Alberta and almost unavoidable in the spring in most areas of Canada as snow melts and gravel kicks onto the roads. This pit was not even in the line of sight of the driver, being in the upper right corner of the windshield.
After a history of renting from several of their locations in Western Canada for two years with no previous issues they reponded to me with an absolutely hard nosed attitude on the issue. So they've lost the 30+ car days I rent every year and I've been able to get several of my peers in the industry to avoid renting from them, and now I've warned you.
I now rent from Budget who tell me they would charge $35 to $50 for the cost of repairing these little pits but you know... after 18 months of renting from Budgets I've never had the opportunity to test this. Knock on wood.
pmlast
Apr 27th, 2006, 04:42 PM
there are more than one.
RBC Visa Platinum is no-fee as well and covers the fees.
I believe any gold or paltimun credit card will cover the rental insurance when you rent the car with that card. So, choose those without annual fee.
nepean19
Apr 27th, 2006, 05:44 PM
http://www.discountcar.com/webpromo/webpromospecial.html
another good deal for a mid size car
IronMac
Apr 28th, 2006, 07:57 AM
Their Calgary office insisted I pay over $350 to replace a windshield that had a pit in it, not a star, not a hole, a pit smaller then a peppercorn and less than half as deep. What they call "road rash" in Alberta and almost unavoidable in the spring in most areas of Canada as snow melts and gravel kicks onto the roads.
I now rent from Budget who tell me they would charge $35 to $50 for the cost of repairing these little pits but you know... after 18 months of renting from Budgets I've never had the opportunity to test this.
So, in 18 months of driving, you've managed to avoid what you called the "almost unavoidable"? :lol:
NewsyL
Apr 28th, 2006, 12:23 PM
So, in 18 months of driving, you've managed to avoid what you called the "almost unavoidable"? :lol:
Shhhh! Don't Ask, Don't Tell! ;)
gatkinson
Apr 28th, 2006, 08:10 PM
I am trying to book this for a weekend in May 12-15. I am picking the one on Front Street that shows 'special' in orange...go through all the details then when I get to the page that shows the breakdown, it is normal price.
what am I doing wrong?
Newbie007
Apr 30th, 2006, 03:49 PM
different locations have different prices
Electricute
Apr 30th, 2006, 04:32 PM
anybody in vancouver know if they rent to 20 year olds? birthday is coming up anyway, but our planned trip is weeks before my b-day
awais
Apr 30th, 2006, 05:02 PM
i used to rent a car from enterprise almost every weekend before and they do rent it to under 25.. but they charge you i think $11-12 extra per day.. but since i was rentin so often with them.. they used to waive that fee for me.. and as for the 9.99 deal they got rid of it and introduced 50% off days over the weekend..
Ryan
May 1st, 2006, 02:25 PM
Nice post! Posted!
malaca
May 1st, 2006, 04:30 PM
FYI Discountcar.com had a special last weekend for 13.99$/day (promo code 6021). It's over now.
If you need unlimited mileage or out-of-province, Hertz has that 22$/day weekend deal:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266071
Tomato_1
May 1st, 2006, 06:53 PM
I believe Enterprise and Avis both do not charge you for being under 25 if you show you have insurance. I know for sure Enterprise, Avis i'm speaking for a friend.
Hertz is ****ing horrible. I got dinged 25 dollars for being under 25. It sucked but I was rushing to rent a car and thought the unlimited km's would've came in handy. Oh well.
FYI again I have Enterprise coupons for 1/2 off the weekend and free upgrade PM me for detials. And if you want enterprise coupons just sign up on their website.
Dealll
May 2nd, 2006, 10:22 AM
Looks like these good weekend deals only good for cars (sedans). I need a good deal for a minivan for a weekend (in Ontario). Enterprise offers $63/day for a Caravan while full size sedan would be just $19 !!!
Spec
May 4th, 2006, 09:21 AM
I went to Enterprise at 2835 Dufferin and they told me their insurance policy has changed and they no longer rent to you if you have a G2 and you don't have "your own" liability insurance. This is ridiculous as they should've mentioned it in the online reservation system. The guy said this policy has been in effect for 1.5 months while I had rented from a different branch just two weeks earlier!
Anybody else have heard of this?
skywalker
May 4th, 2006, 09:25 AM
I went to Enterprise at 2835 Dufferin and they told me their insurance policy has changed and they no longer rent to you if you have a G2 and you don't have "your own" liability insurance. This is ridiculous as they should've mentioned it in the online reservation system. The guy said this policy has been in effect for 1.5 months while I had rented from a different branch just two weeks earlier!
Anybody else have heard of this?
It depends on Locations. I used rent from Dundas Mississagua Location with G2(no own insurance), but at Lakeshore location they ask for own insurance.
waynecarrigan
May 4th, 2006, 09:33 AM
I agree it's a good price but inventory is sometimes an issue with Enterprise. If you want to make sure a car is always waiting for you then use National Car Rental. A few bucks more but you will never be left at an airport wondering why they don't have your reservation.
http://www.nationalcar.ca/
WWW.ENTERPRISE.COM
If you rent a car any weekend you will get an amazing deal.
The rental must begin on the Friday and must be returned that Monday (3 days).
Prices start at $15.25 CAD/day for Compact and upto $18.10 CAD/day for Full Size.
You can't even get a compact for under 20 bucks anywhere else in Toronto.
The best part is no coupon or code is required. As long as you reserve online and it's for Friday-Monday, the discount will automatically apply.
I rent every weekend and those are the cheapest rates you'll find anywhere in Ontario.
I think the full size is the best deal for your buck at only $18/day.
crxmugen
May 4th, 2006, 10:42 AM
anywhere to rent miata (mx-5)? gonna be cool in summer
circky
May 14th, 2006, 02:35 AM
Anyone know the closest place to McCowan and Steeles that will rent a car for the weekend in the US to a 20 year old with a G License?
dinesh_zee
May 14th, 2006, 09:24 AM
I agree it's a good price but inventory is sometimes an issue with Enterprise. If you want to make sure a car is always waiting for you then use National Car Rental. A few bucks more but you will never be left at an airport wondering why they don't have your reservation.
http://www.nationalcar.ca/
Enterprise also instantly change their car sizes when they don't have many cars during weekends. Like.. in this location impala is considered as a premium car and not full-size. Also, they examine their cars a lot for stratch, etc before and after rental, unlike any other company.
ColloSus
May 20th, 2006, 07:15 AM
I have decided a couple of years ago that owning a car is stoopid. So even though I live mid-town, I am now relying on TTC & rentals only. There are many reasons for my decision:
1. mandatory insurance, increasing without bounds
2. traffic congestions making TTC far more attractive
3. constant headaches with owning a car (though I owned a Toyota and didn't have any major problem with it, I'd rather drive than do oil changes)
4. unlike a house, it's a depreciating asset - no value as an investment, on the contrary
5. environmental concerns + encourages sedentary lifestyle
6. planned to travel most of the year, making the car in my garage deadweight
When I made my decision, Enterprise used to have deals at 9.99/day for the week-end. It changed since then to around 15, but it's still an awesome deal, considering that my platinum card covers the insurance.
Before renting from Enterprise, I rented from almost every other rental company, taking advantage of all kinds of deals. In my first year, while I was adjusting to not owning a car, I must've spent more than $10,000 on rentals (which, according to CAA, is the cost of car ownership in Canada - calculated before the major increase in the cost of gas). I will not describe my negative experiences with the others.
Why is Enterprise the best? I find it very strange that although Enterprise is the market leader, the others don't even try to compete in either price or quality of service, and yet they don't go out of business. I myself rent sometimes from Discount, (who are trying hard to play catch-up, but don't come even close,) merely because I don't like to keep all my eggs in the same basket.
Reasons why Enterprise is the best:
1. Customer oriented - Their slogan is make a reasonable amount of money, but have the best customer satisfaction in the industry. How do they achieve it? Steady stream of good quality ppl - they recruit from Univs alongside IBM, Microsoft, etc. They train everybody, then promote fast. Every 2-3 rentals I get a call from centre asking me to rate my experience (how was it? will i rent again? how likely am i to recommend them?). It weighs more heavily in a promotion to have a high rate of customer satisfaction in your branch than to generate more money.
2. "We'll pick you up" - and drop you off when you're done. Discount is trying to match this but they act like they've just given you a Royale with Cheese. This is important for me, as I really don't have a car to drive to their location.
3. Price. Discount, as always, is trying to catch up but their deal is never quite as good, unless you are Jewish - this is what they told me (apparently that gives you a special discount, in which case you're better off with Discount). Their week-end promotion can usually be found at http://www.discountcar.com/webpromo/webpromospecial.html Note however that the car must be returned by 9am on Monday, whereas with Enterprise you return it at the time you picked it up.
4. Car availability. It has never happened to have a rental cancelled with Enterprise, but it happened with others. Unlike others, Enterprise owns its own fleet, so this is never an issue. With Enterprise I also usually get free upgrades (the manager allows me to pay for an Echo for instance and drive a Malibu, but I usually take the Echo to save on gas; other times, I end up driving an SUV because all the economy/compact cars have all been rented; when that happens, I also get a half tank of gas free).
5. Ease of booking. The week-end deal is right there on the website, you don't have to jump through any hoops to get it, just click that link. In terms of speed, power and simplicity I find their website the best (enterprise.com). Their phone number (1-800-RENTACAR) is the easiest to remember and it connects you to the branch closest to you based on your CID info (though it gets screwed up if you call from a cell phone). I can also call my branch directly (which is usually the way I call them).
As for the concerns about Enterprise others have expressed:
dinesh_zee: whenever they had a problem with getting my economy car, they upgraded me for free; i myself insist on their examining the car for everything before i take it, so that i don't have to pay for others' mistakes
crxmugen: I only rented a miata from enterprise about a year ago; it was red and super-cool, but it was in pretty bad shape. i understand that they sold it shortly after. as they own every single car in their fleet, they auction them after 2-3 years - you can get pretty good deals if you're in the market for a car
ColloSus
May 20th, 2006, 08:31 AM
It depends on Locations. I used rent from Dundas Mississagua Location with G2(no own insurance), but at Lakeshore location they ask for own insurance.
In my experience, no car rental company can force you to take their insurance if your credit card covers it (that doesn't stop them from trying, but you don't have to do anything about it). Make your reservation online, make sure you read all their disclaimer, and when you get to sign the contract make sure you decline their insurance, that's all there is to it.
ColloSus
May 20th, 2006, 08:40 AM
The guy said this policy has been in effect for 1.5 months while I had rented from a different branch just two weeks earlier! Anybody else have heard of this?
Although they have very detailed business procedures, they allow some flexibility to branch managers to ensure closer relationships to repeat clients. So a branch manager has the power to void certain policies / procedures if they feel you are a good risk or if it suits them (for instance, if his business was low that month).
This explains why you may hear different things from different branches.
jq_jou
May 23rd, 2006, 12:15 PM
dead already, can't get that deal in Toronto now
skywalker
May 23rd, 2006, 12:34 PM
In my experience, no car rental company can force you to take their insurance if your credit card covers it (that doesn't stop them from trying, but you don't have to do anything about it). Make your reservation online, make sure you read all their disclaimer, and when you get to sign the contract make sure you decline their insurance, that's all there is to it.
Credit card only covers for the rental car. And some enterprise locations require your own insurance to cover third-party libility.
Jeff146
May 23rd, 2006, 12:43 PM
So there aren't any more of these deals around?
Specifically looking for deals to drive to NY
realinvestor101
May 24th, 2006, 09:20 PM
Not sure what Credit Card you are using, but my understanding is generally does not cover thrid party liability. It only covers for the vehicle.
I have decided a couple of years ago that owning a car is stoopid. So even though I live mid-town, I am now relying on TTC & rentals only. There are many reasons for my decision:
1. mandatory insurance, increasing without bounds
2. traffic congestions making TTC far more attractive
3. constant headaches with owning a car (though I owned a Toyota and didn't have any major problem with it, I'm not a nice driver and don't like to even worry about consequences)
4. unlike a house, it's a depreciating asset - no value as an investment, on the contrary
5. environmental concerns + encourages sedentary lifestyle
6. planned to travel most of the year, making the car in my garage deadweight
When I made my decision, Enterprise used to have deals at 9.99/day for the week-end. It changed since then to around 15, but it's still an awesome deal, considering that my platinum card covers the insurance.
HighFlyer
May 24th, 2006, 09:33 PM
Not sure what Credit Card you are using, but my understanding is generally does not cover thrid party liability. It only covers for the vehicle.
That's right, there is no liability coverage provided by the credit card companies. In Canada, the major rental companies (Hertz, Avis, National) include this coverage.... only Enterprise and some other smaller outfits require you to provide your own.
realinvestor101
May 24th, 2006, 10:40 PM
HighFlyer,
Does this mean, that I could sell my car, and get the right credit card, and drive rental only if I drive infrequently. Provided I use Hertz, Avis and National.
Is there any fine print I should be looking for?
That's right, there is no liability coverage provided by the credit card companies. In Canada, the major rental companies (Hertz, Avis, National) include this coverage.... only Enterprise and some other smaller outfits require you to provide your own.
dba4orcl
May 24th, 2006, 11:00 PM
That's right, there is no liability coverage provided by the credit card companies. In Canada, the major rental companies (Hertz, Avis, National) include this coverage.... only Enterprise and some other smaller outfits require you to provide your own.
Do you have any doc support this?
All I heard from the Enterprise agent is: the rental price already includes the liability coverage for driver with "FULL" G license (for Ontario). If you only have G2, then you must have your own liability insurance or they won't rent you the car.
the rental price includes liability coverage apply to whole Canada. But they can refuse to rent the car to you if you don't meet the driver license requirement and you don't have your own liability insurance.
HighFlyer
May 24th, 2006, 11:07 PM
Do you have any doc support this?
All I heard from the Enterprise agent is: the rental price already includes the liability coverage for driver with "FULL" G license (for Ontario). If you only have G2, then you must have your own liability insurance or they won't rent you the car.
the rental price includes liability coverage apply to whole Canada. But they can refuse to rent the car to you if you don't meet the driver license requirement and you don't have your own liability insurance.
I haven't rented from Enterprise ever since I've met the age 25 requirement at the majors. I never went through the graduated licensing system, so I've always had a full 'G' license. Everytime I've rented from Enterprise, I've always been asked for a copy of the pink insurance form. The rules may have changed since then, but I still have colleagues that have had to provide their own insurance on recent rentals.
HighFlyer
May 24th, 2006, 11:22 PM
HighFlyer,
Does this mean, that I could sell my car, and get the right credit card, and drive rental only if I drive infrequently. Provided I use Hertz, Avis and National.
Is there any fine print I should be looking for?
You should double check with the agency. I've always had a policy, so I've never looked into your situation. But last I've checked, they said it was included and never mentioned anything about having your own policy.
dba4orcl
May 24th, 2006, 11:29 PM
I haven't rented from Enterprise ever since I've met the age 25 requirement at the majors. I never went through the graduated licensing system, so I've always had a full 'G' license. Everytime I've rented from Enterprise, I've always been asked for a copy of the pink insurance form. The rules may have changed since then, but I still have colleagues that have had to provide their own insurance on recent rentals.
are you talking about using your own insurance to cover the CDW (collision damage waiver) instead of the liability insurance? AFAIK, liability is built in the rental price and that's required by law in Canada. Both enterprise and discountcar agents said so.
dinesh_zee
May 25th, 2006, 12:56 AM
are you talking about using your own insurance to cover the CDW (collision damage waiver) instead of the liability insurance? AFAIK, liability is built in the rental price and that's required by law in Canada. Both enterprise and discountcar agents said so.
but as an additional constraint enterprise says their liability insurance is not valid if u have G2..
dba4orcl
May 25th, 2006, 03:29 AM
but as an additional constraint enterprise says their liability insurance is not valid if u have G2..
I'd already mentioned that. ;)
TrevorK
May 25th, 2006, 09:43 AM
Great deal - thanks guys!
I just booked a Full Size for 3 days in July @ ~$57 - almost half of what I paid last year for an economy!
vellan
May 25th, 2006, 09:53 AM
deal is very dead in TO
$35/day weekend for compact
BS
kiasu
May 25th, 2006, 10:36 AM
Great deal - thanks guys!
I just booked a Full Size for 3 days in July @ ~$57 - almost half of what I paid last year for an economy!
which rental car co?
TrevorK
May 25th, 2006, 05:57 PM
which rental car co?
Enterprise.
ColloSus
May 26th, 2006, 11:36 PM
Credit card only covers for the rental car. And some enterprise locations require your own insurance to cover third-party libility.
Not sure what Credit Card you are using, but my understanding is generally does not cover thrid party liability. It only covers for the vehicle.
I have Mastercard Platinum (full coverage, zero deductible, which is great considering that I don't pay an annual fee; from previous posts, it's similar to Royal Platinum VISA).
You are both right, of course. Still, I've rented for the past couple of years and declined all insurance. Lately, however, whenever I declined what they call PAI (personal accident insurance liability), they offered to reduce my daily rate by the amount of that insurance, just so that I take it. My daily rate was $13.20, and PAI is $2/day, so they reduced the rate to $11.20 and I ended up paying the same, except that the insurance was included. After they've done that a few times, I just felt silly and started to accept it.
The minimum daily rate varies and is usually higher in the summer and it's lowest around Christmas - Janaury. You can book several months in advance, so you might want to do your bookings at that time of the year if you know when you'll be needing the car.
realinvestor101
May 27th, 2006, 01:09 PM
Can you let us know through which company Mastercard Platinum card you have?
Through PAI (personal accident insurance liability) how much is covered ? (Generally insurance company covers 1 million)
Is passengers in the car covered under this?
Whom are you renting the car with?
I have Mastercard Platinum (full coverage, zero deductible, which is great considering that I don't pay an annual fee; from previous posts, it's similar to Royal Platinum VISA).
You are both right, of course. Still, I've rented for the past couple of years and declined all insurance. Lately, however, whenever I declined what they call PAI (personal accident insurance liability), they offered to reduce my daily rate by the amount of that insurance, just so that I take it. My daily rate was $13.20, and PAI is $2/day, so they reduced the rate to $11.20 and I ended up paying the same, except that the insurance was included. After they've done that a few times, I just felt silly and started to accept it.
The minimum daily rate varies and is usually higher in the summer and it's lowest around Christmas - Janaury. You can book several months in advance, so you might want to do your bookings at that time of the year if you know when you'll be needing the car.
ColloSus
May 29th, 2006, 03:55 PM
Can you let us know through which company Mastercard Platinum card you have? The coverage for all MasterCard Platinum is provided by American Bankers Association (or something like that). When I had my accident, I dealt with an "insurance care" company here in Canada who collected all the necessary documents and submitted it to them. Enterprise charged my credit card, and after about a month I got my refund from ABA. I spent far more time than I should have, because Enterprise would only deal with me personally (possibly because of privacy laws), which complicated the matters. This is how it happened:
1. Had my accident
2. Returned the car
3. On inspection, the Enterprise employee (let's call him Singh) discovers bumper almost missing.
4. [...]
5. [...] my credit card is charged $500 on top of the rental.
6. They send the car to assess the damage, and about 1 month later the repair charge is $1500; the difference ($1000) is charged to my credit card.
7. I submit the documents through "Insurance Care" and after about a month I get my credit from ABA.
8. I notice that the ABA credit is actually lower than what I was charged by Enterprise. Apparently, I was charged taxes on the initial $500, which should not have happened. Asked Enterprise for refund, they gave it to me about another 1 month later. Buying their insurance would've meant no problem for me, but it would've almost doubled the cost of the rental.
NB: some companies have products which should actually be called "Classic" under the "Platinum" name, which can be deceiving (I think MBNA does this). Their real McCoy is "Platinum Plus".
Through PAI (personal accident insurance liability) how much is covered ? (Generally insurance company covers 1 million)
Ontario has a no-fault system. I'm not quite sure why everybody here is so interested in this b/c by law every car (including those owned by Enterprise) has to have third party liability included, and the minimum is $1 million it seems. For Enterprise, in the contract, page 2 of 4 under Additional Terms and Conditions: 6. Motor Vehicle Liability Insurance
Owner has arranged for moto vehicle liability insurance with ACE INA Insurance Company to provide coverage in accordance with the standard automobile insurance policy, up to a limit of $1,000,000.00 for third party liability. To the extent required by law, the insurance also provides for limited Accident Benefits and Uninsured/Unidentified Motorist Coverage. Owner does not otherwise extend any of its motor vehicle financial responsibility or provide insurance coverage to Renter, Drivers, passengers or third parties. ("Owner" in the above is, of course, Etnerprise.) PAI is a different cat, it's optional and is provided by Aviva: Accidental death, not to exceed $100,000 per Renter and $10,000 per Passenger, Medical Expenses up to $2,000, and Dental Up to $200 per tooth but not exceeding $500 per accident (paragrpah 16 on p 3 of 4). Again, I don't think PAI is necessary and have not taken it for a long time, but in the past few months I started taking it as a "thank you" for good service. Makes them happy :)
Is passengers in the car covered under this?
Whom are you renting the car with?
I hope that I answered your questions, but if not, you can always call Enterprise and ask them directly (1800RENTACAR).
ColloSus
May 29th, 2006, 04:36 PM
Further clarification: what Platinum/Gold credit cards usually provide is (collision) "damage waiver" (DW). This is optional, and if you read your contract, it clearly states that. (Enterprise: page 2of4, 16. Optional Damage Waiver., around $18.99/day for economy class). Your credit card usually does not cover SUVs & luxury vehicles, and some (but not Mastercard Platinum) have a deductible and further limitations. Ask your credit card company about it.
Your Home / Car insurance may further insure either DW or PAI or Personal Effects coverage. Check with them.