WOW 27'' LCD-TV at Future Shop, only $749!!! And yes its High Definition!

[MrKat]

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10064895&catid=

Is this brand any good? It was 1K last week. :razz:

[itsyours]

Proview is a Chinese brand. It's a good company. They make Xerox (brand) LCDs which is selling in Office Depot USA.

[sudesingh]

If you're a Costco member, they have the Viewsonic 27" LCD for the same price $749, and with Costco's return policy.....

[muffin]

If you're a Costco member, they have the Viewsonic 27" LCD for the same price $749, and with Costco's return policy.....

Are the 27"-32" viewsonics HD though?

[Emancipated]

Are the 27"-32" viewsonics HD though?

You need a primer on "HD". At any rate, those Viewsonics are "HD" so buy with confidence.

[George W. Bush]

Dear people, stay away from Chinese built electronics... better go with other non-Chinese items, you will be better in the long run. :lol:

[stev3-o]

stay away from dell too then, some of their products are made in china
so its a gamble if u're purchasing from em, u wont know where they were manufactured.

so any non chinese electronics are good? i think u better look at the company rather than the whole country. asus must suck cause they're made by the chinese.

[Rammy]

My local futureshop had digimate 26" LCD on sale for $649.99

The thing is, these LCDs aren't too good. Might as well invest the extra $100 or $200 and buy a Toshiba, Samsung or Viewsonic.

[gizmo8]

Dear people, stay away from Chinese built electronics... better go with other non-Chinese items, you will be better in the long run. :lol:



brother about %75 of name brand items are made in China..from Apple to Dell to Panasonics so before you generalize do your research...so your going to find a LCD made in Germany?...

[andjules]

Dear people, stay away from Chinese built electronics... better go with other non-Chinese items, you will be better in the long run.

amusing with such a simplistic generalisation that you're username is George W. Bush ;-)

[Espander]

$599.99 - Syntax Olevia LT27HVX 27 Flat Panel LCD HD-Ready TV
at amazon.com
or $597.97 - Norcent LT-2722 27 HD-Ready Flat Panel LCD Television

[aleksandar_2000]

Dear people, stay away from Chinese built electronics... better go with other non-Chinese items, you will be better in the long run. :lol:


than we don't have many choices :lol:

don't you know that even Japanese companies are moving production to China ($$$$)

[alt130]

amusing with such a simplistic generalisation that you're username is George W. Bush ;-)

The real George W. Bush wouldn't dare say a bad word about China.

I just assumed that in that context the post was a joke. I think most people know that times are a-changin'.

[kcjchan]

The China made LCDs don't suck. The PSP monitors that were made in Japan had tons of problem with dead pixels and stuff while the later ones which were made in China actually did better.

I use a Proview 15inch LCD and it's pretty good.

[fitbrit]

Maybe GWB meant to stay away from generic non-brand name Chinese-made electronics? The big brands may produce in China but their quality control is a lot better than many of the unheard of brands that are exclusively Chinese designed/ripped off/made. Some of these companies are trying to improve though.

[srtor]

amusing with such a simplistic generalisation that you're username is George W. Bush ;-)
:D :D :D :D

[Daemar]

I bought this TV in January for the same price. It's been working great so far... I already have a 52" HDTV that's got an HD signal, so this one's just in my room, no HD signal yet. I do have an upconverting DVD player hooked up to it, and it's nice. Functionally it's great!

[bullet]

Compusmart has an LCD tvs at that price i believe

a legend 27" 799.99

well close

[kai]

$599.99 - Syntax Olevia LT27HVX 27 Flat Panel LCD HD-Ready TV
at amazon.com
or $597.97 - Norcent LT-2722 27 HD-Ready Flat Panel LCD Television

Syntax Olevia seems a much better deal to me. It's one of the top five LCD TV brands in the U.S. market. Their 32" HDTV is on sale now for 899.

[monarch0300]

thats not a good comment "dont buy chinese products"

would u rather pay double the price for the same product...just because it is made somewhere else... dumb comment... if it were not for china there would not be Redflagdeals.com...thats where all the lower prices come from.

products from china are not ALL low in quality... u have to be aware of what u buy... plus if u save up to half of the price...what do u expect?

i have seen a lot of BAD quality products from other countries including canada that even china is better at making and cheaper.

in the end the price is the bigger part...second is quality and u have to be a moron not the buy extended warranty on any major electronics...at least buy it on a credit card with purchase protection and free 1 year extended manufactures warranty.

live and learn.

If it were not for China, world sulfur emissions would have gone down due to much tighter regulations worldwide (ex. Kyoto coming into effect in some countries, several other programs). China alone has negated the impacts of emission controls in North America, as their sulfur emissions have risen sharply. They have gotten rid of regulations, nevermind putting more into place. China is evil. It's economy before environment, they don't care about sustainable development. Chinese brands I agree are bad, and I don't mean Apple products made in China, I'm talking about those two-bit noname brands.

Ever hear what Chinese people do to animals? Hell Tom Cochrane even had a commercial out on what they do to bears not too long ago. It's a sick society that allows that kind of thing.

So don't brag about how cheaply China makes products because it's only cheap monetarily, they don't care about anyone but themselves (the country, not every single Chinese person). Nevermind how many scammers there are from Hong Kong on Ebay hocking their fake no-name knockoffs.

live and learn.

[fitbrit]

Wow, a brave post. I must say that I agree with a lot of what you said. And thanks for making the distinction between Chinese people and China the country. China is perverting the spirit of capitalism by their human rights abuses- nobody can compete with that in manufacturing. Still, most disequilibria right themselves. As the technologies that China mass produces filter down to the workers who make them, there may be another revolution in decades to come. You can only keep people down until the can see another, better, way. As technology and communications improve, people will demand better conditions. Unfortunately the West will do little to help their plight, at least overtly.

Hmmmm, maybe we cna move the discussion to Off-Topic. ANyone want to start a thread called "China"?


If it were not for China, world sulfur emissions would have gone down due to much tighter regulations worldwide (ex. Kyoto coming into effect in some countries, several other programs). China alone has negated the impacts of emission controls in North America, as their sulfur emissions have risen sharply. They have gotten rid of regulations, nevermind putting more into place. China is evil. It's economy before environment, they don't care about sustainable development. Chinese brands I agree are bad, and I don't mean Apple products made in China, I'm talking about those two-bit noname brands.

Ever hear what Chinese people do to animals? Hell Tom Cochrane even had a commercial out on what they do to bears not too long ago. It's a sick society that allows that kind of thing.

So don't brag about how cheaply China makes products because it's only cheap monetarily, they don't care about anyone but themselves (the country, not every single Chinese person). Nevermind how many scammers there are from Hong Kong on Ebay hocking their fake no-name knockoffs.

live and learn.

[rinse]

$599.99 - Syntax Olevia LT27HVX 27 Flat Panel LCD HD-Ready TV
at amazon.com
or $597.97 - Norcent LT-2722 27 HD-Ready Flat Panel LCD Television

Ive said this before but the LT26HVX is the best bang for the buck out there in the 27-32 inch range.

It's a top tier LG/Phillips Panel and PQ is amazing for HD, DVD, and my XBOX360.

[elty]

I smell a racist here.

Enjoy spending on all the made in non China stuff.

[monarch0300]

So don't brag about how cheaply China makes products because it's only cheap monetarily, they don't care about anyone but themselves (the country, not every single Chinese person).



I smell a racist here.

Enjoy spending on all the made in non China stuff.



I smell an illiterate here.

As fitbrit said, there's far more to it. I didn't even touch on the human rights issues. What the hell kind of country sensors the internet? How much more obvious can it get that something is seriously wrong when they're blocking out all information on human rights issues and tracking what people are doing?

Elty, English evidently is not your first language since you can't understand a simple post, so let me make this clear. In whatever language you speak natively, opposing fascism and racism must be the same word annunciated differently so that all meaning is lost on the internet. In English however, it is not.

http://www.dictionary.com go nuts.

[alkapone]

Many excellent products made in China.....remember Japan many many years ago.

There is a ton of biz going to China. One day that too will slow down.

This is where the action is....the momentum.....but be careful with Chinese stocks.....Wild West for sure.

[fakishan]

Many excellent products made in China.....remember Japan many many years ago.

There is a ton of biz going to China. One day that too will slow down.

This is where the action is....the momentum.....but be careful with Chinese stocks.....Wild West for sure.

are you writing in a chinese accent?

[QuadESL63]

If it were not for China, world sulfur emissions would have gone down due to much tighter regulations worldwide (ex. Kyoto coming into effect in some countries, several other programs). China alone has negated the impacts of emission controls in North America, as their sulfur emissions have risen sharply. They have gotten rid of regulations, nevermind putting more into place. China is evil. It's economy before environment, they don't care about sustainable development. Chinese brands I agree are bad, and I don't mean Apple products made in China, I'm talking about those two-bit noname brands.

Ever hear what Chinese people do to animals? Hell Tom Cochrane even had a commercial out on what they do to bears not too long ago. It's a sick society that allows that kind of thing.

So don't brag about how cheaply China makes products because it's only cheap monetarily, they don't care about anyone but themselves (the country, not every single Chinese person). Nevermind how many scammers there are from Hong Kong on Ebay hocking their fake no-name knockoffs.

live and learn.

The greatest consumption of crude oil is U.S. of A :D

Emission control in NA? U.S. of A has regulation that favors big SUVs from their domestic car factories (search the web to and read the facts): only small cars are binded to the emission control. Trucks are seen as "comercial" vehicles and exempted from most of the regulations.

Also, U.S. of A also do not want to bind to the Kyoto Accord (sadly, we follow suite).

India also is coming up as one of the contributor of green house gas. Why don't you also bring that up here?

So, what is your point? Live and learn.

[jacker]

... if it were not for china there would not be Redflagdeals.com...
I laughed.

...second is quality and u have to be a moron not the buy extended warranty on any major electronics...
I agree.

I just have to give a nod to those who made the distinction between China and Chinese people. Working at an electronics store, you'd be amazed how often I see Chinese people looking to buy something, asking where it's made... the answer to that is invariably "China". They have this sad look on their face, like the product just lost some value.

Anyway, the point is that apparently nobody wants to buy Chinese stuff if they can avoid it.

[monarch0300]

The greatest consumption of crude oil is U.S. of A :D

Emission control in NA? U.S. of A has regulation that favors big SUVs from their domestic car factories (search the web to and read the facts): only small cars are binded to the emission control. Trucks are seen as "comercial" vehicles and exempted from most of the regulations.

Also, U.S. of A also do not want to bind to the Kyoto Accord (sadly, we follow suite).

India also is coming up as one of the contributor of green house gas. Why don't you also bring that up here?

So, what is your point? Live and learn.


I suppose you don't know much about the subject. We were talking about China, if you want to bring up another thread about what is wrong with other countries by all means post another thread.

China has got to be the single most twisted country on the planet today. Just last week it was out in the news that prisoners have been executed hurriedly, without proper justification or paper work presumably so that their organs can hit the black market. Want me to go on and on about China?

Can you even defend a country trying to censor the internet so that it's people can't read up on human rights?

The USA has cut it's emissions more than most Kyoto countries have. Even Canada isn't doing half as well as they are. China however, has been drastically increasing their emissions, although they claim to be trying to cut back. I don't care whether the US supports SUV's, since when did gasoline become a major contributor to sulfur emissions? I just finished a third year biogeochem course, so unless you have more knowledge on the issue and the consequences there's no need to impress us with your distinct lack of direction and point in another mindless post.



China's economic boom has an environmental dark side. While China's economy continues to grow at a rate of more than 8% annually, as it has for more than two decades, the country's environment and the Chinese people are paying a steep price. China now boasts five of the ten most polluted cities in the world; 70% of the water that flows through China's urban areas is unfit for drinking or fishing; and severely degraded land or desert, which now claims 1/4 of China's land, is advancing at a rate of 1300 sq. miles per year.


Check out the link and read the article.

[boo4842]

The greatest consumption of crude oil is U.S. of A :D

Emission control in NA? U.S. of A has regulation that favors big SUVs from their domestic car factories (search the web to and read the facts): only small cars are binded to the emission control. Trucks are seen as "comercial" vehicles and exempted from most of the regulations.

Also, U.S. of A also do not want to bind to the Kyoto Accord (sadly, we follow suite).

India also is coming up as one of the contributor of green house gas. Why don't you also bring that up here?

So, what is your point? Live and learn.

Its "consumer"

and Canada has more emissions per capita that the USA. And we have signed the Kyoto accord, but signing something and actually following what you signed is a whole different story. Canada's record of reducing emissions pales in comparison even to the oil guzzling Untied States

Criticizing a country and a racist are two different things. And IMO "playing the race card" is just as bad, if not worse than making a racist remark.

There are too many chinese on the board to have this argument, but this is SO not the place to do it either. China does make some poor quality products, and its rise as a producer has BOTH positive and negative effects.

But to make a blanket statement that all chinese products are crap is not accurate, but advising caution when buying products from non-reputable brands (including the chinese ones) is sound advice

[fitbrit]

Criticizing a country and a racist are too different things. And IMO "playing the race card" is just as bad, if not worse than making a racist remark.

There are too many chinese on the board to have this argument, but this is SO not the place to do it either. China does make some poor quality products, and its rise as a producer has BOTH positive and negative effects.

But to make a blanket statement that all chinese products are crap is not accurate, but advising caution when buying products from non-reputable brands (including the chinese ones) is sound advice


No no no no... too many well-informed voices of reason for one thread in RFD! Please stay out, or chime in with reactionary ignorant opinions ONLY. Thanks. :)


EDIT: This applies to fmpsportsguy2 too :arrowd: :arrowd: :arrowd: :arrowd: :arrowd: :arrowd: :arrowd:

[fmpsportsguy2]

with a gadzillion starving people, china is just another third world country with workers for corporations to exploit. It really makes no difference where an item is made.... it all boils down to quality control. Most manufacturers are taking advantage of exploiting chinese workers, to manufacture their goods..everything depends on how well the product is made, and what quality control checks are in place.
Remember American made cars???? Workers getting $20-30 an hour wages and cars blowing up,hmmmmmmmmmm, dont buy american crap....

One final thought...good or bad... we ARE benefiting from this exploitation with cheaper prices on goods... but we are all paying for it in human rights abuse, animal abuse, and our environments rapidly declining state.

[boo4842]

No no no no... too many well-informed voices of reason for one thread in RFD! Please stay out, or chime in with reactionary ignorant opinions ONLY. Thanks. :)


I know you said something, but all I head was

"5 dollar sucky sucky"

think this thread will be locked?

[fitbrit]

I know you said something, but all I head was

"5 dollar sucky sucky"

think this thread will be locked?


Okay, I have now created a thread in Off Topic. Please post stuff about the OP's hot deal here, and discussion about China (NOT Chinese people!) here in this new thread. (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3358977#post3358977)

It would be a pity for this thread to be locked as it's a vaild deal.

[Evil Techie]

thank you fitbrit

please keep this thread on topic

[rmanaudio]

I know a buddy who has this exact LCD TV, the pic quality is OK at best. I would spend a little more and get a good one.

[gillianchung]

i suggest that before you make any comments from a country other than your own that you either:

1. are a Chinese and live in China
2. you've lived for at least 5 years in the new-era of China experiencing cities like Shanghai and Beijing and having been to The Great Wall of China, and to understand and respecting the culture
3. make an intelligent post which compares the differences between politics and government involved to the actual people that live in China and how China is any different than Bush's regime with a view on the environment and global warming
4. compare government censorship done by China to government coverups done by the CIA in the USA and the people China has executed in the past year compared to USA's onslaught and killings of thousands in Iraq

provide a rationale to how China is the most twisted country by executing someone when a whole army of tanks and F-16s are bombing the hell out of another country on flawed intelligence info, or North Korea starving their own people, or Pakistan having primed nukes that no one seems to care, or the Dafur crisis, that somehow...because China is, in the midst of all the other current issues going on, "the most twisted" country? I'm all ears to hear what intelligent comments you have to say to support your bold point against all the other important things that are going on right now.

Before you pull "smart" comments about a country other than your own, I suggest you look at your own country before you go nitpicking on others. If you think the USA is any better than China at providing rights to people at this current state of the world with their own Patriot Act and Homeland security protocols, then you're either too naive, or you're just watching too much CNN. But please, before you make statements like "China has got to be the single most twisted country on the planet today. ", make sure you are qualified to make such statements.

Because sadly, making such statements just reflect upon how much you really do know about the world. Some people are still jealous that Toronto lost to Beijing for the Olympics, and others are jealous that China is the talk of the town. So they defame China like it was back in the 80s, with no real first-hand look or experience of the country. Look at Canada and its progression. I don't see any huge progression. I find people in my country, which is Canada rather egocentric and ignorant, that Canada somehow is some first rate country, when honestly, they haven't travelled the world to see what Europe and Asia and the rest of the world has to offer. Canada is so flawed in itself with many aspects to improve, yet people have time to spend criticizing a world power or some other country? Come on and give me a break. Earn some money, then go take a trip this summer to some other country, like Italy, Germany, Japan, China, England, and definitely go to Dubai, and learn their culture and RESPECT IT. And for your information, people from China see our TTC subway system and think it's some 3rd world system. They couldn't believe such a public transportation system exists in North America. It stinks, it's dirty, people are rude, and they use vintage 1960s tokens, when most places in Asia uses Automated card systems for public transportation.

Spend your time looking at your own country and think of ways to improve it, before you go and step into someone else's country and pointing fingers. It makes you look racist when you have little or no real knowledge of the culture and situation, and it is better to keep your mouth shut.

Oh, and having completed a biogeochem course makes you no more qualified than Don Cherry in terms of talking about political issues about a country other than your own.


I suppose you don't know much about the subject. We were talking about China, if you want to bring up another thread about what is wrong with other countries by all means post another thread.

China has got to be the single most twisted country on the planet today. Just last week it was out in the news that prisoners have been executed hurriedly, without proper justification or paper work presumably so that their organs can hit the black market. Want me to go on and on about China?

Can you even defend a country trying to censor the internet so that it's people can't read up on human rights?

The USA has cut it's emissions more than most Kyoto countries have. Even Canada isn't doing half as well as they are. China however, has been drastically increasing their emissions, although they claim to be trying to cut back. I don't care whether the US supports SUV's, since when did gasoline become a major contributor to sulfur emissions? I just finished a third year biogeochem course, so unless you have more knowledge on the issue and the consequences there's no need to impress us with your distinct lack of direction and point in another mindless post.

Check out the link and read the article.

[yyz2hkg]

uummmm....I thought this thread was about LCD TV.... sorry wrong thread :lol:

[taishan]

Dear people, stay away from Chinese built electronics... better go with other non-Chinese items, you will be better in the long run. :lol:

Those are American Campany's Brands. Chinese factories manufacture for them anyways. Considering more and more Hi-tech stuff has been manufactured in China for a long time and sold in everywhere, one cannot really doubt the quality. But rather, the more you pay, the better built quality....

So that's a better standard than yours.

[taishan]

I suppose you don't know much about the subject. We were talking about China, if you want to bring up another thread about what is wrong with other countries by all means post another thread.

China has got to be the single most twisted country on the planet today. Just last week it was out in the news that prisoners have been executed hurriedly, without proper justification or paper work presumably so that their organs can hit the black market. Want me to go on and on about China?

Can you even defend a country trying to censor the internet so that it's people can't read up on human rights?

The USA has cut it's emissions more than most Kyoto countries have. Even Canada isn't doing half as well as they are. China however, has been drastically increasing their emissions, although they claim to be trying to cut back. I don't care whether the US supports SUV's, since when did gasoline become a major contributor to sulfur emissions? I just finished a third year biogeochem course, so unless you have more knowledge on the issue and the consequences there's no need to impress us with your distinct lack of direction and point in another mindless post.



Check out the link and read the article.

Well, what can you say? One says stuff about one country but then when another brings concerns about the BIG POWER of the world nowadays, who can invade other coutries for no reasons, killing people by saying something like bringing FREEDOM to them and civilizations. But all you say is like" why do you change the subject?"

Well, nobody likes Chinese government, but be nice to the people though. I think they're working hard and a lot of the profits they are making go into Americans and others who now are so eager to invest money in China, taking advantage of the cheap labor and more from the Chinese PEOPLE. Politics are as dirty as it could be. Everywhere in the World. It's stupid to argue which one is "dirtier".

[danatureboy]

Y'know, this is how rumours start. Just stop the hatin' alright. Chinese people are okay. American people are okay. Afghani people are okay. Everybody is okay. No government is perfect. No laws are perfect. It really wasn't all that long ago when Canada got its charter of rights and freedoms up and running. But, things change and you can't really compare one nation to another, because the people are different, the culture is different and the history is different. Its like all of a sudden one country does something wrong (more like a handful of idiots in that country's cabinet) and its like "oh China is the new latitude of badness" and whatnot. I think that's just lame.

"If you're not part of the solution...you're part of the problem. Stop being part of the ****ing problem!"

In a side note, do you really logically, concientiously, instinctively, non-instinctively, sub-consciously think that a country that has been able to enforce a 1 child policy law, would have any problems enforcing any type of emissions law?

[Bat1983]

Wasted my time reading people's crap yet nothing about the tv. Please guys stay on topic. Can anyone tell me a bit more about the tv? Is it worth spending the dough or am I better off getting something a little bit better? Thanks!

[vaderschariot]

hey monarch,

go lie in the streets with the rest of the winnipeg drunks and cry about the jets

[S_G]

That's ridiculous, I read through the whole thread and there were maybe three on-topic posts. Put your politics elsewhere, I want deals.

[klxzhou]

China is the best!

Many countries are afraid of China!

GO CHINA!

[alkapone]

are you writing in a chinese accent?

AH SO....I tried it wit a French accent but I cud not get hit right....merde.

Fakishan....bienvenue a la internet :razz:

[alkapone]

China is the best!

Many countries are afraid of China!

GO CHINA!

Chinese? by any stretch of the imagination?

[alkapone]

Now...let's get back on topic...no more thread jacking.

[Derek]

This is a Hot Deals thread. Stay on topic or it will be locked...

[kcjchan]

In before the lock! :lol:

Anyhow, did anyone get the TV and how's the quality compared to a Samsung?

[alkaseltzer01]

Funny.. this is like specials at Walmart that turn into a union thread.

[monarch0300]

Edit: gillianchung I have replied in fitbrit's thread.

[rag]

I have been tracking this tv for a while cause I need a cheap 2nd basement tv max 27" its been this price or $800 for at least 6 months now...

[Coolme]

I am not sure if people know this, but this TV does have a HDMI port, which is a rarity at this price. (Not sure if it supports HDCP)

[Daijoubu]

Do HD even make any difference on a 27 inch? :-0

[fitbrit]

Do HD even make any difference on a 27 inch? :-0
Yes, if you sit close enough.

[clearblue]

Say no to bush! :lol:

Jack Bauer is in deep doo-doo with the Chinese.

I think buying the TV from Costco is a safer bet too. I love Costco's return policy.

[gordholio]

I have a 20" Panasonic CRT from about 6 years ago.
It still works fine and has a great picture, so I'll probably keep it for another 4 years (get 10 years out of it) and then buy an LCD or plasma TV.
I don't see the point of getting a small LCD TV though.
I would want a 42" HDTV at least.
By 2010, the prices will be way cheaper for me to buy and HD will be the norm.

[Canadianpsycho]

I agree (http://www.fatkidsong.com/nsa.htm)


Sweet, thanks for bumping a month old thread so we can have the China vs. The World argument again. And again. And again.

[st7860]

In a side note, do you really logically, concientiously, instinctively, non-instinctively, sub-consciously think that a country that has been able to enforce a 1 child policy law, would have any problems enforcing any type of emissions law?


news:// the one child policy has had for some time, changed to two or three children in some areas, and if a family can afford the fee, they can simply have two children anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_child_policy

[TLO]

Dear people, stay away from Chinese built electronics... better go with other non-Chinese items, you will be better in the long run. :lol:

I still remember in the 70s when ppl always say stay away from electronic made in Japan, then in the 80s stay away from Korea and now made in China...hmmm it makes me wonder. Oh yeah, btw, how's the view in your water hole?

[dzen]

Ever hear what Chinese people do to animals? Hell Tom Cochrane even had a commercial out on what they do to bears not too long ago. It's a sick society that allows that kind of thing.

Nevermind how many scammers there are from Hong Kong on Ebay hocking their fake no-name knockoffs.

live and learn.

Great post dude. You ain't racist for talkin' smack about those chinese. Can you read what you wrote? :lol:

dictionary.com funny you should got to learntoread.com

those chinese harm bears and hock knockoffs.

those americans are war mongers.

those germans are nazis

those japanese are killing the whales

Bla bla balabb

Yeah and all us canadians are morons because of what one monarch 0300 wrote. no thanks

you gotta get out of the house more. or maybe out of you pen.

[dzen]

I suppose you don't know much about the subject. We were talking about China, if you want to bring up another thread about what is wrong with other countries by all means post another thread.

China has got to be the single most twisted country on the planet today. Just last week it was out in the news that prisoners have been executed hurriedly, without proper justification or paper work presumably so that their organs can hit the black market. Want me to go on and on about China?

Can you even defend a country trying to censor the internet so that it's people can't read up on human rights?

The USA has cut it's emissions more than most Kyoto countries have. Even Canada isn't doing half as well as they are. China however, has been drastically increasing their emissions, although they claim to be trying to cut back. I don't care whether the US supports SUV's, since when did gasoline become a major contributor to sulfur emissions? I just finished a third year biogeochem course, so unless you have more knowledge on the issue and the consequences there's no need to impress us with your distinct lack of direction and point in another mindless post.



Check out the link and read the article.



BlaaaBla Alaaa

:lol: :lol:

you still at it?

you keep your whinin' as long as you dont go and make me feel bad about how canadians massacred the red indian natives and stole all their land. ok ok your right we are part of an evil nation and we should all go back to where our forefathers came from and give back canada.

man, i bet you think you are really intelligent !! :lol:

quit complaining cause the esl student smoked you in engilsh.

so is there a hot deal in here or not??

[gizmo8]

when did this become a political forum?...

[rolandtgs]

I almost didn't put this in because of the political garbage going on in this thread, but the TV is now $699 after a $50 discount.

[st7860]

I still remember in the 70s when ppl always say stay away from electronic made in Japan, then in the 80s stay away from Korea and now made in China...hmmm it makes me wonder. Oh yeah, btw, how's the view in your water hole?

People are just upset that they can't have overpaid $20/hr manufacturing jobs in Canada anymore.

[MrKat]

I almost didn't put this in because of the political garbage going on in this thread, but the TV is now $699 after a $50 discount.

at $699, its very tempting...considering thats $400+ savings over other brands for that size.

this model cant be that bad :lol:

though i would never buy a china made electronic ;)

[MrKat]

I have a 20" Panasonic CRT from about 6 years ago.
It still works fine and has a great picture, so I'll probably keep it for another 4 years (get 10 years out of it) and then buy an LCD or plasma TV.
I don't see the point of getting a small LCD TV though.
I would want a 42" HDTV at least.
By 2010, the prices will be way cheaper for me to buy and HD will be the norm.

Same. Might as well go big, thast why Projector>all.

Panasonic is still going strong because its Japanese made. if it was china made, it would have been shot within the first month :lol:

[cko64]

though i would never buy a china made electronic ;)
Do you own any electronic products? All electronics are made in China, even Japanese brands. Just flip to the bottom and you will see "Made in China".

I just check my "Sony" alarm clock, it's made in China. All my five Canon digitals Cameras are "made in China". My HP laptop is made in China, and on and on...

What an idi*t!

[dzen]

If it were not for China, world sulfur emissions would have gone down due to much tighter regulations worldwide (ex. Kyoto coming into effect in some countries, several other programs). China alone has negated the impacts of emission controls in North America, as their sulfur emissions have risen sharply. They have gotten rid of regulations, nevermind putting more into place. China is evil. It's economy before environment, they don't care about sustainable development. Chinese brands I agree are bad, and I don't mean Apple products made in China, I'm talking about those two-bit noname brands.

Ever hear what Chinese people do to animals? Hell Tom Cochrane even had a commercial out on what they do to bears not too long ago. It's a sick society that allows that kind of thing.

So don't brag about how cheaply China makes products because it's only cheap monetarily, they don't care about anyone but themselves (the country, not every single Chinese person). Nevermind how many scammers there are from Hong Kong on Ebay hocking their fake no-name knockoffs.

live and learn.

the moron is back with the same ignorant quote. exactly the same word for word. dont you have anything original to say? i shut u up before so dont waste my time again.

[magical]

stay away from dell too then, some of their products are made in china
so its a gamble if u're purchasing from em, u wont know where they were manufactured.

so any non chinese electronics are good? i think u better look at the company rather than the whole country. asus must suck cause they're made by the chinese.

Ahh.. problem is, taiwan = china aswell.. I'd take something in taiwan before china.

proview monitors were crap, LCDs tho probably aren't even made by them, either way this company is based upon one thing... "cheapness" ... it will work, not look the best, but be cheap.. and not necessarly last.

[magical]

Do you own any electronic products? All electronics are made in China, even Japanese brands. Just flip to the bottom and you will see "Made in China".

I just check my "Sony" alarm clock, it's made in China. All my five Canon digitals Cameras are "made in China". My HP laptop is made in China, and on and on...

What an idi*t!

Both my canon Digital Cameras are "Made In Japan" ... plus my diskman ... maybe its cause I buy the high end stuff and not the el-cheapo stuff... hah.

[milhaus]

I smell an illiterate here.

As fitbrit said, there's far more to it. I didn't even touch on the human rights issues. What the hell kind of country sensors the internet? How much more obvious can it get that something is seriously wrong when they're blocking out all information on human rights issues and tracking what people are doing?

Elty, English evidently is not your first language since you can't understand a simple post, so let me make this clear. In whatever language you speak natively, opposing fascism and racism must be the same word annunciated differently so that all meaning is lost on the internet. In English however, it is not.

http://www.dictionary.com go nuts.
Wow. When you complain about someone's "engrish" and then tell someone to go to dictionary.com, you should probably know the difference between "censors" and "sensors." And you should probably study sentence structure: "opposing fascism and racism must be the same word annunciated differently so that all meaning is lost on the internet." WTF? Should I remark on the irony of the fact that you got "annunciate" and "enunciate" mixed up in that sentence? An "F" post.

[Jon Lai]

Viewsonic (Taiwan) > Proview (China)

[stewie1]

i haven't read this whole thread, but I have a proview LCD computer monitor. bought it from costco for no other reason than I NEEDED a monitor and it was the cheapest one they had.

I've been pleasantly surprised by it. and the build quality and buttons on it are top notch... much better than the LG it replaced. I'd buy proview again.

[DYJ]

Wow. When you complain about someone's "engrish" and then tell someone to go to dictionary.com, you should probably know the difference between "censors" and "sensors." And you should probably study sentence structure: "opposing fascism and racism must be the same word annunciated differently so that all meaning is lost on the internet." WTF? Should I remark on the irony of the fact that you got "annunciate" and "enunciate" mixed up in that sentence? An "F" post.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lol:
GJ putting him in his place