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Cough
Jun 6th, 2006, 06:19 PM
I found this article interesting, refreshing, and a positive reflection on elements of Islam.

Are men/women separated at all mosques in Canada? Do any of them conduct sermons in English?

I have edited the article for brevity. The whole article is here (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/06/06/MNG5MJ94QA1.DTL)


S.F. mosque drops gender barrier -- worshipers are still adjusting
Tuesday, June 6, 2006

San Francisco's largest mosque -- a Tenderloin refuge for more than 400 Muslims -- has taken the revolutionary step of removing the 8-foot wall separating male and female worshipers.

No other Bay Area immigrant mosque has torn down such a barrier, several Muslim leaders said, and the move is rare in the United States. But leaders at the Islamic Society of San Francisco, citing the opinions of scholars, say Islam provides no justification for the partitions that separate men and women in most immigrant mosques around the country.

Even with the wall gone, however, divisions remain.

Some men who worship at the mosque say the visible presence of women invites "temptation." And while many women see the wall's removal as liberation, others feel it shattered the privacy essential for prayer. Several women still refuse to attend.

But the Islamic Society intentionally courts all ethnicities and uses English-language sermons to unify members; its board even fired its former imam in 2001 for what board members said were polarizing sermons. Mosques like to foster a distinctly American Islam and, some believe, a truer Islam. Traditions long unquestioned in faraway lands are challenged in the United States by people who lack the same sentimental attachments.

"I would argue that Islam is practiced in its purest form in the U.S.," said Nura Maznavi, 27, an attorney who has been worshiping at the Islamic Society of San Francisco mosque for a year.

Indeed, African American Muslims -- not to be confused with adherents of the Nation of Islam -- don't divide male and female worshipers.

Ingrid Mattson, a professor of Islamic Studies at Hartford Seminary in Connecticut, said controversies like the debate over the wall can threaten the "unchanging" pillar that religion is for many people.

Men prayed in the front of the sanctuary. Women prayed in the back, as the Quran dictates, but also behind the wall. The women could not see the imam, who delivers the khutbah, the sermon, except on closed-circuit TV.

She said the wall also put women out of step with the synchronous prayer required in Islam "Sometimes we would stay face down with faces on the floor while the men had gotten up," Kalyoncu said, laughing gently at the memory.

"It was demeaning to women and disrespectful for them to be separated" by a wall, said Ghali, 47, a Lebanese immigrant who owns and runs a downtown copy shop. "It's more of a cultural tradition that has nothing to do with Islam." Mosque leaders sought the opinion of Khalid Siddiqi, an Islamic scholar and former imam at the Muslim Community Association in Santa Clara, which is considered a model multi-cultural mosque.

Siddiqi said partitions are a relatively modern innovation that didn't exist at the time of the prophet Muhammad, who in the seventh century recorded in the Quran the revelations Muslims believe he received from Allah, or God.

Siddiqi said women bluntly questioned male authority in mosques during the time of the prophet Muhammad.

But as Islam began to spread east -- the political capital of Islam moved from Damascus to Baghdad in 749 -- the influences of other cultures began to seep in,

Board members embraced the opinions of Siddiqi and other scholars, and the wall was removed six months ago.

Not everyone says that was a good thing.

"When there's a wall there, there are no distractions," said Shahzia Khan, 30, an American-born Muslim who was raised in Vallejo and lives in Fremont. "At this mosque, I do see men flipping their heads back and forth. It makes me wonder, 'Are they looking at me? Am I dressed provocatively?' "

Mohammad Safdar said a barrier would be better for men, too.

"If the wall is there, it's better in Islam because the women cannot attract attention," Safdar said. When Khaled Ghaleb, a mosque board member, joined the discussion, an argument ensued.

"There is no privacy here. You're not coming to a salon. You're coming to a mosque. Allah, who sent the message to the prophet, didn't tell him to build a wall. It's not Islam.

"A woman goes to Safeway. Why can't she come to a mosque and see the imam?" Ghaleb said. "We can't amend what the prophet did."

maebach
Jun 6th, 2006, 10:37 PM
finally. I got scared when I read the thread on the textbooks. And it said that infidels and women have a fraction of happiness compared to a free muslim man.

mocha_keisha
Jun 6th, 2006, 10:42 PM
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mocha_keisha
Jun 6th, 2006, 10:44 PM
Gosh Darn, have you seen what happens to men who are locked away for life in prison when they are around other men who are locked away for life with them? There are hardly any women around (except the few female guards), so I guess the temptation for female pleasure is gone....... but guess what you would have left when your hormones start kicking off :lol:

asim99
Jun 6th, 2006, 10:59 PM
http://www.nfb.ca/trouverunfilm/fichefilm.php?id=51517&v=h&lg=en&exp


Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. In North America, a large number of converts are women. Many are drawn to the religion because of its emphasis on social justice and spiritual equality between the sexes.

Ironically many mosques force women to pray behind barriers away from the men, and some mosques do not even permit women to enter the building. When it comes to user-friendliness for women, Canadian mosques run the entire gamut.

In Me and the Mosque, journalist and filmmaker Zarqa Nawaz visits mosques throughout Canada and talks to scholars, colleagues, friends and neighbours about equal access for women.

Discussions about the historical role of women in the Islamic faith, the current state of mosques in Canada and personal stories of anger, fear, acceptance and defiance punctuate the film. And Nawaz herself speaks of the spiritual longing that comes from belonging to an institution that doesn't want you.
With original animation, archival footage and deeply personal interviews, Me and the Mosque is a smart, self-aware and whimsical story that documents the debates and presents the personalities on all sides of the issue.

http://www.islamicamagazine.com/content/view/172/59/


At a time when Muslim interest in the media is largely relegated to playing the PR game, Canadian filmmaker Zarqa Nawaz rises above the stale PSAs stating in so many ways that “Islam means peace,” and instead gives the Muslim community something it really needs: a big whiff of its own dirty laundry.

Nawaz’s new documentary, Me and the Mosque, co-produced with the National Film Board of Canada, airs perhaps the dirtiest laundry in the basket—women’s prayer spaces in mosques. While her own mosque finds newer and harsher ways to isolate women (ultimately arriving at the one-sided mirror with a brick wall solution), Nawaz puts herself in front of the camera and takes a road trip to mosques across North America. The trip, she says, is meant to investigate why these instruments of segregation, or “barriers” as they are referred to in the film, are being put up in mosques.

But make no mistake, this is not investigative journalism. What Nawaz is really doing is making a case against the barrier by giving the purdah (veil) the Michael Moore treatment. She casts herself as a populist hero—an everyday, hard-working, Joe, or Joann in this case, who is a mother and lifelong Islamic activist. Then she sticks it to the man with a combination of intelligent talking heads, animation, stories of other regular sister folk, irreverent humor and a bias that lies just beneath the surface. A documentary with a bias? We can get into a discussion on the nature of documentary truth, but for now, let’s leave the faceless, fair and balanced material for the History Channel and take on something that channels passion into an articulate argument.

And that is what we get with Me and the Mosque, a cohesive argument that is not so much about the evils of barriers as it is about proving their unfounded existence. Although the film was produced by the National Film Board, it is clear that the target audience is the Muslim community. Nawaz proves that she knows her audience well, and is sincere in her approach by sticking to the subject and not broaching issues of greater controversy. The film manages to push beyond the barriers to get a glimpse of the bigger picture— that false traditions have taken over popular conceptions of Islam. But it is just a glimpse; the film’s awkward 52-minute length (not quite a short, not quite a feature) makes it a little too short and sweet.

Nawaz’s approach in reaching the Muslim community finds the right balance between making the emotional case and the factual one. In several interviews with women marginalized by barriers, Nawaz seeks to give a voice to their unheard stories. Their comments can be funny. The mother of a 17-year-old tells pubescent brothers engaged in barrier building, “If you find the sight of me arousing, you have problems I can’t help you with.” Their comments can also be angry. One woman who had pushed for a place to pray in her community’s new mosque sees the construction of a barrier and says, “This is just basically saying, ‘Shut up, we gave you your space.’” However, Me and the Mosque never quite captures the power of fright that Moore and Morgan Spurlock of Super Size Me use in making audiences question gun control or consumer culture. The creation of baseless traditions that can become the basis for legal rulings in a major religion is grounds for a horror movie (maybe something like The Invasion of the Sunna Snatchers).

But Me and the Mosque covers itself with scholarly analysis for its hadith-hungry Muslim audience. The likes of ‘Umar Faruq Abd-Allah, ‘Abdullah Adhami and Tariq al- Suwaidan all make appearances to place the barrier in context. The conclusion they drive home is that barriers were not found in the Prophet Muhammad’s Mosque, and therefore are not a legitimate tradition. Although they deliver the factual goods seriously, they are wisely played against some very amusing animation, which bring to life Islamic history and hadith in unexpectedly funny ways.

In a self-starring documentary, the director’s character can make or break the film. Nawaz’s presence is not as overbearing as Moore’s, but comes off with a real sense of sincerity and passion for her mission. Yet, at times, she places a little too much importance on being earnest, particularly in interviews with her family in which we hear her voice more than we should. In a scene with her mother, Nawaz starts out listening to her mother’s funny, matronly worries, but then ends up nagging her mother into agreement.

Nawaz’s intentions are clear. The film is not just a survey of women’s prayer space sob stories. It is a call to action. She ends the film with the Qur’anic verse that challenges us to change our condition by changing our hearts.

Although the filmmaking sometimes suffers, mostly from some strange cutting and an unsatisfying treatment of Nawaz’s own conflict within her mosque, Me and the Mosque is ultimately a success. Nawaz is able to take on an issue so personal yet honestly strive for dialogue rather than controversy as the film spells out its position with respect to the viewer. And that is no small feat. No matter which side of the barrier you stand on, Me and the Mosque should be seen— and applauded—by all.

Me and the Mosque. Directed and written by Zarqa Nawaz. Co-produced with the National Film Board of Canada. Running time: 52 minutes. Available at: www.nfb.ca/meandthemosque

aquariaguy
Jun 6th, 2006, 11:02 PM
Did anyone else see that documentary on "The National" at 10pm? It was pretty interesting... Didn't know Holland had the toughest immigration policy...against islams.