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UrbanPoet
Jul 19th, 2006, 10:07 PM
What does KRamer do for a living?
Were there any clues in the show that foreshadowed what he did for a living or how he got his money?
d_jedi
Jul 19th, 2006, 10:08 PM
You mean the character, or the guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Richards)?
Chr1s
Jul 19th, 2006, 10:08 PM
Mooched
Friends with Bob Sakamano
Odd Jobs ... Pretend Desk Job/Curator etc etc
paleo
Jul 19th, 2006, 10:09 PM
It's Seinfeld. Respeck.
Cosmo Kramer fell ass backwards into money by overhearing some dudes with "inside info" on horse racing on the subway and won a huge amount.
But, it's also because his entire life was a "fantasy camp".
Best show EVER.
Booyakasha!
xKagex
Jul 19th, 2006, 10:10 PM
From wikipedia:
The only known steady job Kramer is known to have had was in "The Strike," where he went back to work at H&H Bagels after being on strike for over a decade. His union finally settled the strike when the minimum wage of New York was raised to the same hourly rate Kramer was demanding from his employer (Kramer still felt the strike was a success), and he was reemployed. He only worked there during that one episode before he was fired. During the time he was working at the bagel shop, he went on strike again because of having to work on Festivus, a holiday fabricated by Frank Costanza.
Kramer has engaged in a variety of short-lived jobs. He worked part-time as a department store Santa before being fired for spreading Communist propaganda to young children. In "The Bizarro Jerry," he works at an office where he is not actually employed, describing his daily activities to Jerry as "T.C.B. You know, takin' care of business." His "boss" eventually "fires" him, commenting that his reports resemble work by someone with "no business training at all." In "The Beard," he was paid to be a decoy in a police lineup. A story arc of the fifth season included Kramer's idea for a coffee table book about coffee tables, which is eventually published in "The Fire."
He is a compulsive gambler who successfully avoided gambling for several years until "The Diplomat's Club", where he bet with a Texan on the arrival and departure times of flights going into New York's LaGuardia Airport.
A struggling (and untalented) actor, Kramer briefly lived in Los Angeles, where his only accomplishments were accosting Fred Savage, appearing in a cameo on Murphy Brown in the episode "The Keys." , and being suspected as a serial killer. Back in New York Kramer worked as a stand-in on a daytime television soap opera with his friend Mickey in "The Stand In", and was given a one-line part in a Woody Allen movie in "The Alternate Side," but he is fired before completing his scene. Kramer has worked in various other theater projects, such as acting out illnesses at a medical school in "The Burning."
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Inventions, entrepreneurship, and lawsuits
Kramer showed an entreprenurial bent with "Kramerica Industries," for which he devised plans for a pizza place where customers made their own pizza ("Male Unbonding"), a bladder system for tankers that would "put an end to maritime oil spills" ("The Voice"), and a product that would put ketchup and mustard in the same bottle.
He also came up with the idea of a beach-scented cologne in "The Pez Dispenser," but a marketing executive for Calvin Klein informed him that the idea was senseless. However, in "The Pick," it is revealed that Klein has produced a cologne called Ocean based on the same idea. When Kramer confronts him about this, his interaction with a Klein executive lands him a photo shoot in connection with the cologne as an underwear model.
In "The Dinner Party", Kramer and Frank Costanza co-develop a prototype for a brassiere for men called the "bro" or the "mansiere."
In "The Muffin Tops", Kramer cries foul after failing to receive due credit for J. Peterman's book success which was unduly based on Kramer's misadventures. He then confronts Peterman during a book signing, and is kicked out of the event. Kramer then declares himself to be "The Real Peterman" and initiates The Real Peterman Reality Bus Tour, charging customers $37.50 for a tour of his life.
Kramer also hatched a scheme to smuggle actual Cubans to the United States to make his beloved outlawed Cuban cigars, only to learn the Cubans are actually Dominicans ("The English Patient").
He participates in lawsuits against various people and companies, represented by Jackie Chiles, a parody of Johnnie Cochran. In "The Maestro," he settled one such suit (though he received no monetary compensation) against a coffee company whose beverages were too hot (a reference to the McDonald's coffee case). In "The Abstinence," Kramer sues a tobacco company for the damage its products caused to his appearance, and in "The Caddy," he sued Sue Ellen Mischke for causing a traffic accident that ruined his chances at becoming a professional golfer.
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Others of Kramer's inventions and ideas
* A coffee table book about coffee tables. While on Regis and Kathie Lee promoting the book, he spits out his coffee and he is no longer allowed to tour ("The Opposite").
* PB & J's, a restaurant that only sells peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Nothing becomes of it ("The Friars Club").
* Ketchup and mustard in the same bottle ("The Voice").
* Eliminating all the pieces of furniture in his house and replacing them with levels ("The Pony Remark").
* Installing a garbage disposal as the drain in his shower, so that he could prepare vegetables while showering ("The Apology").
* A roll-out tie dispenser ("The Stock Tip").
* Redoing his entire apartment in wood ("The Junior Mint").
* Redecorating his apartment with the set of The Merv Griffin Show ("The Merv Griffin Show").
* Adding a screen door outside his apartment front door ("The Serenity Now").
* Using the homeless to pull rickshaws in New York City ("The Bookstore").
* Reversing the peephole in his apartment front door ("The Reverse Peephole").
* Owning his own chicken to obtain fresh eggs. He later discovers that the chicken is really a rooster and trains him to become a cockfighter ("The Little Jerry").
* Saving all his blood in a refrigerator ("The Blood").
* Using Newman and his mail truck to take cans to a Michigan recycling plant, where the bottle deposit return is worth 10¢, as opposed to New York's 5¢ ("The Bottle Deposit, Part 1" and "Part 2").
* Getting rid of his refrigerator so that he would only eat fresh food.
* A pizza place where you make your own pizza pie.
* A cologne that made you smell like you just came from the beach
Sl300
Jul 19th, 2006, 10:10 PM
KRAMERICA INDUSTRIES!!!
BillsFan
Jul 19th, 2006, 10:11 PM
nice one ali g.
He really had no source of income other than random get-rich-quick schemes.
Kramer also worked at a bagel shop, and he was on strike for the first bunch of seasons.
B40
Jul 19th, 2006, 10:12 PM
Kramer is a legend... they never specifically say what he did, but I guess he was just a guy who always had some sort of invention/idea to make money when needed.
He also had the "Real Kramer" tour when the show started in the show...
paleo
Jul 19th, 2006, 11:21 PM
Peterman reality tour...LOL...with the mini chocolate bars and pizza bagels...ahahaha....
B40
Jul 19th, 2006, 11:22 PM
Peterman reality tour...LOL...with the mini chocolate bars and pizza bagels...ahahaha....
Is that what it was?
Funny thing is the "real" Kramer who's name is Kessler in real life did start some sort of "Real Kramer" tour..
Not sure if this was before/after the episode where he did it in the show lol
paleo
Jul 19th, 2006, 11:36 PM
Pretty sure it was before the show...his character was kinda based on him. Have you seen Kessler on TV? Pretty hilarious dufus looking dude.
Oh yeah, did you know this......in the very first episode Jerry actually calls Kramer, KESSLER!
B40
Jul 19th, 2006, 11:42 PM
Oh yeah, did you know this......in the very first episode Jerry actually calls Kramer, KESSLER!
Yup, they changed it later.. I think the mailbox also had "Kessler" on it..
They didn't want him to exploit it, which he still did anyways :lol:
ud666
Jul 20th, 2006, 12:57 AM
I remember he worked as Santa.
B40
Jul 20th, 2006, 09:25 AM
I remember he worked as Santa.
He was also a model for Calvin Klein :razz:
jonkaho
Jul 20th, 2006, 09:28 AM
maybe he bums money from Jerry.
McLaren
Jul 20th, 2006, 11:15 AM
He was a fake doctor for an episode (Dr Van Nostren) as well as an Industrialist - Pennypacker.
B40
Jul 20th, 2006, 11:19 AM
He was a fake doctor for an episode (Dr Van Nostren) as well as an Industrialist - Pennypacker.
Fake doctor was not a job, but more so a favour for George so he could grab some pics of the guy topless :lol: :cheesygri
maybe he bums money from Jerry.
Nope, he never bummed money from Jerry, he just smooched off him and was always eating his food :lol:
paleo
Jul 20th, 2006, 11:25 AM
I've seen every single episode dozens of times over and NEVER get tired of it. Anyone know when they are releasing seasons 7-8 on DVD? According to the releases it should have been in May???
GangStarr
Jul 20th, 2006, 11:29 AM
if anyones in New York take the Kramar relatity tour. Its run by Kramer not the actor and is an hour long energy filled tour. He's been doing the tour for longer then the shows been running and has extensive knowledge about Larry David and sienfeld.
The tour was fun, had some great merchandise to purchase and the real kramer runs the tour as if it were day 1. So much energy. Also get a ride on his luxery coach (not a school bus) and you get some junior mints.
Remember the episode about the Peterman reality tour? They did that in response to the Kramer reality tour which was started by Kenny Kramer (larry davids neighbor in new york, and inspiration for the character). They built an episode around the conflict of him running the reality tour. He won some court injunction and he is the only person other then David and Sienfeld who can use the shows "likeness" in his tour.
Anyways if your NYC, DEFINATLY call ahead and book. Seats fill up fast.
paleo
Jul 20th, 2006, 11:50 AM
if anyones in New York take the Kramar relatity tour. Its run by Kramer not the actor and is an hour long energy filled tour. He's been doing the tour for longer then the shows been running and has extensive knowledge about Larry David and sienfeld.
The tour was fun, had some great merchandise to purchase and the real kramer runs the tour as if it were day 1. So much energy. Also get a ride on his luxery coach (not a school bus) and you get some junior mints.
Remember the episode about the Peterman reality tour? They did that in response to the Kramer reality tour which was started by Kenny Kramer (larry davids neighbor in new york, and inspiration for the character). They built an episode around the conflict of him running the reality tour. He won some court injunction and he is the only person other then David and Sienfeld who can use the shows "likeness" in his tour.
Anyways if your NYC, DEFINATLY call ahead and book. Seats fill up fast.
My GOD. I had no idea! This is going to be the predominant reason why i'm going on a trip to NYC! Well that, and that new planitarium that is supposed to be awesome.
paleo
Jul 20th, 2006, 11:51 AM
Why did they call him Kessler then?
vladislav
Jul 20th, 2006, 12:40 PM
Kramer is on welfare and that is enough for the apartment and some main living expenses, the rest are all crazy schemes :)
He is an incredible character...
paleo
Jul 20th, 2006, 12:45 PM
Kramer is on welfare and that is enough for the apartment and some main living expenses, the rest are all crazy schemes :)
He is an incredible character...
Welfare? I don't recall that?
Firebot
Jul 20th, 2006, 12:52 PM
Don't forget the time he owned a horse and cabbied people around the city (after feeding the horse beans:) ). I'm surprised there was no mention at all of the greatest invention of all, the mansiere!
GangStarr
Jul 20th, 2006, 02:53 PM
Welfare? I don't recall that?
They dont even mention it but thats how a lot of people get by. Welfare then do things on the side, like sell drugs or pull scams
Brownbear
Jul 20th, 2006, 04:49 PM
im thinkin he was a hustler
look how he hustled those opera tickets!
i forgot the name of the episode, but it was a great episode. the one with the crazy clown. Probably my favorite episode. the scene where elaine gets trapped in the clowns apartment, and tries to get out... great acting..