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LeeBoA
Aug 1st, 2006, 05:14 PM
Patrick_gl, alberdotgta, etcetc and genchang, he ripped someone off a fake sony ms pro duo card. I knew genchang was the same as all the other accounts he was making. He just made a new one called "tonyt", hes the same as genchang. He emailed me with the same response as the pm system wanting my sharp902. His email was genchang@gmail.com and he ripped someone off with an email called genchangXXXXXXX (some random numbers). His name on that email (genchang@gmail.com) was Jason Tan. Holy **** he makes new accounts all the time and wow the mods dont know anything about it.

LeeBoA
Aug 1st, 2006, 06:29 PM
A few minutes after i recieved 4 other interested buyers.... I believe they are also all him,, had liek 4posts etc... Wont enclose the usernames though because im not 100% sure they are.

_Allan_
Aug 1st, 2006, 06:31 PM
thanks for the warning. hope the mods/admin get crackin' on this.

aristotle
Aug 1st, 2006, 06:32 PM
ygpm i talked to u over hotmail....acrobatik24

selling a d600...well i hope u dont think im him cause hes a sleezebag

mike_taso
Aug 1st, 2006, 06:39 PM
are you sure about Patrick_gl? cuz i have delt with him before seems very honest and trust worthy... seen him perseon to person.......

cheystar
Aug 1st, 2006, 06:47 PM
description of genchang
Nationality: Chinese
height: 5.5-5.6
short hair, bad teeth not aligned properly, skinny guy, one of his hands the thumb nail is really long. hmmm well thats all i can rememeber anything else. English is terrible and he stutters

LeeBoA
Aug 1st, 2006, 06:52 PM
are you sure about Patrick_gl? cuz i have delt with him before seems very honest and trust worthy... seen him perseon to person.......
Ok some ppl have, ppl tell me genchang is a calm guy? Like hes admitting through via pm that yes, tonyt is genchang but his acc genchang got banned for selling the ms pro duo or w/e. Hes trying to convince me right now to sell the sharp 902 to him, and HE ALWAYS TELLS ME HES A NICE GUY! wow... Btw does he fit the description above that cheystar pointed out? Also you notice patrick_gl never comes online anymore? same with all his other bs accounts, after a while he never logs on. He also has hookups on phone numbers wow, i know hes someone else by the way he posts his threads. He always leaves his number and says CALL ASAP!! ETCETC...same guy, like 10posts, etcetc.

jfrinc
Aug 1st, 2006, 07:57 PM
yeah, this genchang guy was pretty much booted out of other sites as well, he calls himself "vince" on other sites and keeps selling the same phones over and over and has the same lines like "i'm selling this because i've upgraded my phone..." yeah whatever vince! Hopefully he's reading this because he's pissed off too many honest buyers/sellers and is giving the internet trading posts a bad name. Vince, a word of advice, go away, we don't want your broken phones!!

LeeBoA
Aug 1st, 2006, 08:01 PM
yeah, this genchang guy was pretty much booted out of other sites as well, he calls himself "vince" on other sites and keeps selling the same phones over and over and has the same lines like "i'm selling this because i've upgraded my phone..." yeah whatever vince! Hopefully he's reading this because he's pissed off too many honest buyers/sellers and is giving the internet trading posts a bad name. Vince, a word of advice, go away, we don't want your broken phones!!
thats true he also goes by the name vince. im thining maybe littlevince(not to accuse but assuming), btw he was also vince1115 or something on hofo. The thing is im dealing with genchang right now lets see how it goes.

jfrinc
Aug 1st, 2006, 08:10 PM
I just checked one of the other site's he's trying to sell his phones on, he has 106, yes that's right 106 active posts!!! Most of them are the same thing, over and over, but like I said, he just continues to use up unnecessary space on these sites! Unfortunately I can't say the site on this post, but for those of you that are familiar with him, you'll know which one i'm talking about.

jvaf
Aug 1st, 2006, 08:12 PM
i've noticed that too.. he repeatedly keeps making new accounts..

Thanks for the warning LeeBoA

lorpor520
Aug 1st, 2006, 08:34 PM
i deal with him before too..he is not a worth trust person. making up all the excuses to delay me to go to pick up. Since he dones't have the product on hand!!!!!!!! once he got the product, he will give you a call, and want you to meet immedately....!!!!!

yes..becareful with this person.

hustler
Aug 1st, 2006, 08:56 PM
hes on c list as well.....called me from dere and i reconzied his voice im lik uve been selling f'd fones man im not selln u a fone ur gunna waste my tyme



yes he does have VERY LONG NAILS



patrick gl and vince 115 hofo....are different members.....

LeeBoA
Aug 1st, 2006, 09:47 PM
hes on c list as well.....called me from dere and i reconzied his voice im lik uve been selling f'd fones man im not selln u a fone ur gunna waste my tyme



yes he does have VERY LONG NAILS



patrick gl and vince 115 hofo....are different members.....
I thought the same thing, im not going to deal with someone who isnt trustworthy esp with all the useless accounts and all the stories i hear. Yes he does have long nails lol but i dealt with him today and sold the sharp902. When it comes to buying a phone he wants at a great price, i believe he is worth dealing with. I dont know, should i recommend him or not? I dont know at all, i guess he wanted the sharp so badly but i got my payment for it so im happy.

hustler
Aug 1st, 2006, 09:50 PM
ya he bought a razr off me and sounded lik he wud bak out any min, it wasn even that its how he conducted bznes w other members here dat ticked me off


lolz he bought the SHARP now will RESELL IT as BRAND NEW CONDITION


hahahha

sfu_engineer
Aug 1st, 2006, 09:55 PM
It's a chinese custom to keep your pinky fingernail really long. It's supposed to bring good luck?

Nraja
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:14 PM
i dealt with this genchang dude too...sold him an s700i and he starts showing me all this s*** he wants to trade me for it...i ended up doing a trade for the s700i with the charger for an e316, a v300, and a 256mb mp3 player...guy kinda creeped me out...REALLY LONG NAILS!! I was told that people grow their pinkie finger nails to snort crack off of....if so..this guy must be snortin a whole lot cuz ALL of his nails are friggin long

hustler
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:18 PM
oo i didn noe that, see i can respect that to a point....but
it wasn only the pinky it was all and they wernt clean....



lolz i can only imagine genchang reading all this, ithough he was suppose to go away on vacation or something...i dont think he understands that if he keeps ripping people off somebody will take action

bubble.tea
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:18 PM
It's a chinese custom to keep your pinky fingernail really long. It's supposed to bring good luck?
long fingernail=snorting coke ;)

1xTiMeR
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:31 PM
lol... ive sold him a 6/10 v551, Horrible condition, and got $50, he seems like a poor man with nice phones.

1xTiMeR
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:35 PM
but does have LONG Finger nails... maybe hes just a lazy guy, plays on the comp all day and trys to make deals everyday... and scams LOL

mcg
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:47 PM
Don't be making fun of people here, although I never knew keeping the pinky fingernail thing was a Chinese trad. for good luck. Maybe I'll start too, and file it sharp in case RFD deals go wrong.

LeeBoA
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:47 PM
ya he bought a razr off me and sounded lik he wud bak out any min, it wasn even that its how he conducted bznes w other members here dat ticked me off


lolz he bought the SHARP now will RESELL IT as BRAND NEW CONDITION


hahahha
lmfao!!!

LeeBoA
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:49 PM
Don't be making fun of people here, although I never knew keeping the pinky fingernail thing was a Chinese trad. for good luck. Maybe I'll start too, and file it sharp in case RFD deals go wrong.
why keep your fingernails long, thats nasty.... I wonder what girls think of that.

LeeBoA
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:54 PM
so far though, my deal with him was good so in the future i would deal with him again (selling wise)

Papagorgio
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:54 PM
hahah, i bought a 903 of this genchang guy, bad teeth, crazy stuttering... he got angry at me over the phone cuz I was late and he really wanted to get something to eat.. he kept yelling, I HAVE TO EAT!..

I actually got a pretty good deal of the guy...he was a nice guy in an extremely unrefined way..

1xTiMeR
Aug 1st, 2006, 11:05 PM
Okay this is life, people get scammed and ect, dont cry over about it. THATS LIFE!! if there werent people that scammed, life would be unbalenced..
RIGHT/WRONG = LIFE

leave this guy be...

BeaverLiquor
Aug 1st, 2006, 11:21 PM
Okay this is life, people get scammed and ect, dont cry over about it. THATS LIFE!! if there werent people that scammed, life would be unbalenced..
RIGHT/WRONG = LIFE

leave this guy be...

why you defending him, you smoking his pole or something? this guy is obviously shady.

hustler
Aug 1st, 2006, 11:22 PM
Okay this is life, people get scammed and ect, dont cry over about it. THATS LIFE!! if there werent people that scammed, life would be unbalenced..
RIGHT/WRONG = LIFE

leave this guy be...



so we should scam you to balance life?



thats not a right way to think although thats true....you dont say o well this guy got scammed its part of life.....scamming is NOT RIGHT...period, you dont let somebody get away w it otherwise everybody would scam and dere wudn be a BALANCE

;)


if funny how you say it cause ur acting as if the guy is doing a favour in scamming people thus creating a balance which is good lolz? it would be better if there was NO SCAMMING

LeeBoA
Aug 1st, 2006, 11:29 PM
Okay this is life, people get scammed and ect, dont cry over about it. THATS LIFE!! if there werent people that scammed, life would be unbalenced..
RIGHT/WRONG = LIFE

leave this guy be...
sry but wtf u saying.. ok so can i scam you plz? life is life man.

Wirelessgirl
Aug 1st, 2006, 11:29 PM
Okay this is life, people get scammed and ect, dont cry over about it. THATS LIFE!! if there werent people that scammed, life would be unbalenced..
RIGHT/WRONG = LIFE

leave this guy be...


So, if this guy scammed you, you would feel balanced??? :confused: You would honestly say "That's life"? I think you would be just as angry as everyone else who got scammed by this guy. It's wrong and people should know about it, so no one else will get scammed by him again.

1xTiMeR
Aug 2nd, 2006, 12:34 AM
theres lots of bad things happening it right now, such as war. You can't do anything about it because its just LIFE. Other people have different choices to do what, everyone stole before in thier lives. So Scammed is one too.

hustler
Aug 2nd, 2006, 12:42 AM
i know what your saying but how your saying it is wrong, just leave it.



Just because theres a war we cant say its for thebetter of society and has to happen...and that was a BAD example...alot of people will get personal on this subject.

tonyt
Aug 2nd, 2006, 12:45 AM
I want to ask you guys, who was scammed by me? I knew code187 said he was. He bought a 2GB sony MS from me.

Listen: I sold the guy a psp with a 2gb Sony MS, but I don't know if the ms is fake because I just got it from another guy. I have checked it out before I sold it. It works fine and the size show in the psp is 1936 MB. and he also ckecked it out before he pays. Maybe the guy said it was fake just becaus it is not a sony one, I really have no idea if it is sony or not and don't know how to ckeck it out even right now. You can ask the guy code187 if I am lying.

I feel very sorry about that. I just tried to contact code187, the buyer, as soon as I saw his complain, but he never reply me or call me back( he knows my number), what can I do? Maybe he found the ms is OK finally.
yes, some of them are in bad condition, but that is not scamming, everybody can see can check what them got before they pay. It is their opinion to buy or not. Cheaper price got worse condition phone. That is fair.

For example, I bought a v3 which outside screen doesn't work from hustler, a sharp 902sh which doesn't work for bad flashing from cheystar, and a bad condition v551 from 1xTiMeR. i repair all of them and sell them in a better price, am I wrong? I buy your non-working stuff and fits them, am I wrong?

hustler
Aug 2nd, 2006, 07:15 AM
genchang did a cleanup job CSI would be proud of. Jokes man, he deleted all his sales threads as soon as you posted. Mark my words, he's signing up on RFD using an alias. That's how scammer do their dirty work. Good thing you have his name, address & phone number. That means we have a chance to catch him again.


DO NOT DEAL WITH HIM!!

He sold me a broken ipod (doesnt upload songs and battery life is shot). He refused to answer my calls after he sold me the ipod. He's very shady. He'll ask you to meet at an intersection close to his home so you dont know where he lives. I got my friend to pretend to want to buy something else of his and then convinced him to take him to his home. I followed my friend and asked for my money back. He had no choice but to give it to me. This guy is a complete ASSHOL*. My friend found out that he's leaving for Hong Kong NEXT WEEK so he's ripping off as much ppl as possible. For those of you that he ripped off.. he lives at

17 Harvest Moon (Harvest Moon/Birchmount)
he lives in the basement so i think its not really his home. i think his name is jason but im not sure. again just ask for your money back and there's not much he can do. he is going back to hong kong next week!

Buyer Beware!


do NOT deal with this trader.. he sold me a bad ipod.. claimed that the battery lasts 7-8 hrs.. dies after 1 hr of use... cant even upload any songs.. refused to answer cell phone for a refund after he agreed to meet me tonight!!

aingaran
This guy is a complete arse who is full of ..... I tried to buy a phone off him and he gave me the run around for 3 days.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/...ad.php?t=304482




Buyers beware!


The phones that he claims are "excelent condition", are more like 4-5/10!!!. (dropped, scratches all over). Hard to communicate in english (Jason MY ***!). Speaking from own experience. My buddy met with him, sold him broken Samsung X426 that looked like it was ran over with a car ("Excelent condition" LOL). After usless phone calls he agreed to meet. Not hard to figure out that he did not show up.

How many times can u sell the Samsung X426 that my friend already bought 2 months ago.

and now the laptops?!?!

BEWARE!!!


Don't deal with this fool!

I contacted him Saturday evening & was supposed to meet up with him Saturday night.. Time of the meet, he calls me & says to me he was scared to meet at night.. I told him we can meet at a busy Tim Hortons, if he's uncomfortable (Midland & Steeles) where I've met several other RFDers. He said no to that.

Then, on Sunday, I call him in the morning & he says to me we can meet up at 9PM on Sundday (yeah, apparently he wasn't afraid of the dark on Sunday.) I called him at 8:20pm on Sunday to confirm the meet, he says he's busy and he'll call me later that night.. Calls me at 11:20 and tells me he can't meet up & says to me he'll call this morning to arrange a meeting. He calls at noon & tells me that he's calling from his "friends house" and doesn't have the phone on him & that we can meet up at 3...Expecting a call, I'm sitting here waiting like a fool. During the entire time, he's bumping this thread.






Shall i go on? Fact is you wasted alot of members time, as well as sold them an item that was a claimed condition and clearly was not when you met(subjective, but i think we all can agree upon good and used condition)....there is absoutly nothing wrong w buyn used fones fixn em up and reselln......just state the actual honest condition and i guess take pics...

your right about the buyer having the choice to buy or not once you meet, but it wasnt only that.... only sell something you have on hand and only commit to the deal if you wish to go through with it

DualSoul
Aug 2nd, 2006, 08:24 AM
It seems from all the feedback that you don't fix them very well...

LeeBoA
Aug 2nd, 2006, 08:30 AM
aingaran
This guy is a complete arse who is full of ..... I tried to buy a phone off him and he gave me the run around for 3 days.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/...ad.php?t=304482











Shall i go on? Fact is you wasted alot of members time, as well as sold them an item that was a claimed condition and clearly was not when you met(subjective, but i think we all can agree upon good and used condition)....there is absoutly nothing wrong w buyn used fones fixn em up and reselln......just state the actual honest condition and i guess take pics...

your right about the buyer having the choice to buy or not once you meet, but it wasnt only that.... only sell something you have on hand and only commit to the deal if you wish to go through with it
Good point!

gizmo8
Aug 2nd, 2006, 08:44 AM
I sold something to him and it went smoothly but his personality is extremely weird and he does live at the address mentioned......

LeeBoA
Aug 2nd, 2006, 10:33 PM
I sold something to him and it went smoothly but his personality is extremely weird and he does live at the address mentioned......
Yea honestly i dunno if hes teh good or the bad...

mcg
Aug 3rd, 2006, 07:53 PM
Harvest Moon... That's damn near where I live... could just walk there. Damn, sad to hear that a scammer is nearby... ah.

LeeBoA
Aug 4th, 2006, 01:36 AM
maybe hes a part-time scammer.. i dunno did he actually ever scam anyone?

1xTiMeR
Aug 4th, 2006, 02:15 AM
lol, leave him alone! who the f*ck cares, if he "scams" people! its ur fault if he u know get scammed cuse ur a fcking MORON. remember it balences life =]

CMB.
Aug 4th, 2006, 02:21 AM
why you defending him, you smoking his pole or something? this guy is obviously shady.



thought the pole comment was tricky.

CMB.
Aug 4th, 2006, 02:22 AM
lol, leave him alone! who the f*ck cares, if he "scams" people! its ur fault if he u know get scammed cuse ur a fcking MORON. remember it balences life =]

p.s. i think you need to calm down, or you might get banned.

hustler
Aug 4th, 2006, 08:17 AM
lol, leave him alone! who the f*ck cares, if he "scams" people! its ur fault if he u know get scammed cuse ur a fcking MORON. remember it balences life =]



not everybody can know on the spot if there scammed or not...man i think somebody needs to screw u w a phone deal or sumnthing

cuz u dont understand, ITS NOT OK TO SCAM PEOPLE PERIOD.


and its not only that its STILL wasting somebodys time in travelling to him and they see the phone is in **** condition



an example of YOU NOT BEING ABLE TO KNOW was a member here bought a ipod mini which gen gaurenteed good battery on....the buyer got it went home....in the LONGER RUN he found out it lasted an hour or two

he got ripped off (he did something about it though)

aingaran
Aug 4th, 2006, 10:59 AM
Why do I have a feeling this 1xtimer is gengchang? They both seem to have some trouble with forming proper setences & he's constantly defending that fool.

LeeBoA
Aug 4th, 2006, 11:07 AM
lol, leave him alone! who the f*ck cares, if he "scams" people! its ur fault if he u know get scammed cuse ur a fcking MORON. remember it balences life =]
Uhh... I hope you get scammed big time, it will balance your life man.

LeeBoA
Aug 4th, 2006, 11:09 AM
Why do I have a feeling this 1xtimer is gengchang? They both seem to have some trouble with forming proper setences & he's constantly defending that fool.
Actually you never know, he might be genchang, just watch his next post/thread, and yes he does kinda sound familiar to genchang and the rest of his accounts.

1xTiMeR
Aug 4th, 2006, 02:06 PM
sorry, i didnt mean to swear, but you people jsut keep going on and on... liek serious, ITS LIFE!

1xTiMeR
Aug 4th, 2006, 02:08 PM
lol funny thing is, it isnt "gen chung", i just defending him cause u guys make it such a big deal and the fact is, YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. face the facts u got scammed. yes, you are mad and pissed off and ect, but w.e dude. i know its not right but like seriosuly... okay every1 stole before right, thats just liek the same concept and u guys point fingers? no1 has the rights to. we are all just as bad as he is then. AND NO I AM NOT GEN CHUNG... i dont have long figer nails. lol

CMB.
Aug 4th, 2006, 02:15 PM
maybe hes a part-time scammer..

didnt know they where real!?! lol

Tijuana
Aug 4th, 2006, 02:17 PM
lol funny thing is, it isnt "gen chung", i just defending him cause u guys make it such a big deal and the fact is, YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. face the facts u got scammed. yes, you are mad and pissed off and ect, but w.e dude. i know its not right but like seriosuly... okay every1 stole before right, thats just liek the same concept and u guys point fingers? no1 has the rights to. we are all just as bad as he is then. AND NO I AM NOT GEN CHUNG... i dont have long figer nails. lol

its deff him

CMB.
Aug 4th, 2006, 04:01 PM
i dont have long figer nails. lol



mommy..whats a figer?

1xTiMeR
Aug 4th, 2006, 11:30 PM
okay seems like every1 knows me right.. okay ask "mchowster" on rfd. I bought my D820 off him, met up in person. OKAY i just want to clear my name snice it got dirty all because of GEN CHEN.

birdie92k
Aug 4th, 2006, 11:48 PM
lol funny thing is, it isnt "gen chung", i just defending him cause u guys make it such a big deal and the fact is, YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. face the facts u got scammed. yes, you are mad and pissed off and ect, but w.e dude. i know its not right but like seriosuly... okay every1 stole before right, thats just liek the same concept and u guys point fingers? no1 has the rights to. we are all just as bad as he is then. AND NO I AM NOT GEN CHUNG... i dont have long figer nails. lol

U sayin' my momma raised a thief? boy I'd smack you so hard your next 4 generations would feel it...lol..j/k.

You are just as bad as he is! Not "we." And what do you mean no one has the right to point fingers???? I saw his face so if someone asks who is he, what am I supposed to do?? Gen Chen sold me 2 razrs that were "unlocked" but they weren't as you'd imagine. They were BNIB with like 30 hours talktime! Oh and this is after I went there and spent gas money and time to check out a "Mint" condition razr, and by his definition of mint, the pair of boxers I bought last year is like out of the packaging!

Fact is HE WASTES A LOT OF PEOPLE"S VALUABLE TIME AND MONEY!

mcg
Aug 4th, 2006, 11:58 PM
Well, we can always make sure who's really who by having a nice RFD meet someday.

LeeBoA
Aug 5th, 2006, 12:15 AM
lol funny thing is, it isnt "gen chung", i just defending him cause u guys make it such a big deal and the fact is, YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. face the facts u got scammed. yes, you are mad and pissed off and ect, but w.e dude. i know its not right but like seriosuly... okay every1 stole before right, thats just liek the same concept and u guys point fingers? no1 has the rights to. we are all just as bad as he is then. AND NO I AM NOT GEN CHUNG... i dont have long figer nails. lol
ok idiot.. who said i got scammed ******? I said i caught him with several accounts. I hope in the near future you get scammed. BTW its just life as you stated.

Computer500
Aug 5th, 2006, 09:10 AM
if nobody wants to get scammed, but it directly from the store. unopened.sealed

hustler
Aug 5th, 2006, 09:34 AM
okay seems like every1 knows me right.. okay ask "mchowster" on rfd. I bought my D820 off him, met up in person. OKAY i just want to clear my name snice it got dirty all because of GEN CHEN.



tooo late (N), maybe you should makemulitiple accounts too now


:lol:

pendragon
Aug 5th, 2006, 10:05 AM
It'd be too funny ..if he shows up at a meet then return again and introduces himself with one of his many other personas....lol...kinda like Mick Foley on WWE :P

have a nice day lol!

Well, we can always make sure who's really who by having a nice RFD meet someday.

1xTiMeR
Aug 5th, 2006, 06:04 PM
w.e guys, u guys make me sick, i was just trying to point somthing out but now u guys make it seem like im the bad guy.

hustler
Aug 5th, 2006, 06:27 PM
w.e guys, u guys make me sick, i was just trying to point somthing out but now u guys make it seem like im the bad guy.
point out thats its ok for people to scam other people cause it balanaces life...i get itt!! and ill do my BEST to balance life starting w u :lol:

would you like to buy my magic beans.... :D

Motonoki
Aug 5th, 2006, 07:58 PM
I spoke to this guy a few times. Numbscull. You can't even hear him talk on the phone; he's one of those low talkers. Pass on him and crap. ;)

LeeBoA
Aug 5th, 2006, 09:08 PM
point out thats its ok for people to scam other people cause it balanaces life...i get itt!! and ill do my BEST to balance life starting w u :lol:

would you like to buy my magic beans.... :D
LMFAOO

skev13
Aug 5th, 2006, 09:34 PM
It's a chinese custom to keep your pinky fingernail really long. It's supposed to bring good luck?
Wtf? Not where I'm from.... :|

ace321
Aug 11th, 2006, 10:53 AM
This tony person is exactly the way some members said
-what a waste of time he was late and he told me his v3i was mint condition 8/10 when i looked at it, its more like 2/10. It has water damage when i open the battery cover to check the sticker it was red , trying to give me a defective phone. Then the guy starts low balling me
plz beware of this person.

ace321
Aug 12th, 2006, 12:54 PM
i think hes back as a different member

BluEL
Aug 21st, 2006, 04:45 PM
I just stumbled on this thread...quite the bruhahah going on. I've actually dealt with the infamous GenChang. He bought a phone from me and I got my asking price, but I have to agree that he is a bit bizarre...and possibly shady (read on for reasons why). I believe "Mint" also dealt with him. I asked Mint how his transaction went. I will not post Mint's response, but I will post what I asked him over pm. Maybe Mint will post his experience if he sees this thread.

My pm to Mint regarding GenChang:

I've noticed you sold your phone to Genchang. I sold my W600i to him just last week. We set a time and place and he eventually paid my asking price. I'm just wondering if he pulled the same act on you.

First, he got me showing up at Birchmount/Steeles. Then he changed it to PacMall. Then when I got there, I called him and he got me to go to Dennison/14 plaza (Burger King there, but I think he works at the chinese restaurant there).

Second, he pops in a FIDO sim and says it's not working...plays dumb and pretends not to know what unlocking is. Tries to use that as leverage to lower my price. I refused since I had other buyers and the price was already low at $200 (perfect condition).

Third, after much squirming and pleaing for a lower price he FINALLY decides he'll take it. BUT doesn't have the money on him. He talked me into driving his ass home to get the money. If I was alone, I would've told him off, but luckily I had someone with me.

All this in his broken english; which is probably all an act too. He's quite the actor.

Anyway, I'm just wondering if this guy puts on this act everytime. He pretends not to know much; says phone is for his own use; and I'm pretty sure the BNIB W600i phone he posted up for sale THE VERY NEXT DAY was the used phone I sold him. Don't be surprised if you see him posting it for sale tomorrow.

RLP06
Aug 21st, 2006, 04:51 PM
LMFAO :lol:


description of genchang
Nationality: Chinese
height: 5.5-5.6
short hair, bad teeth not aligned properly, skinny guy, one of his hands the thumb nail is really long. hmmm well thats all i can rememeber anything else. English is terrible and he stutters

LeeBoA
Aug 22nd, 2006, 01:17 AM
so is tony still around?

gizmo8
Aug 22nd, 2006, 05:53 AM
Hes very active on Craiglist and howards..numberous phones for sale and notebooks,it seems he buys low trying to sell high...majority of the Sony Duo cards are fake on Ebay and local listings...if the price is way below retail you know its likely fake..there is numberous sites to help you identify fake cards.
http://martybugs.net/articles/fakesandisk.cgi.

The man is abit weird..so caution to all...

jfrinc
Aug 22nd, 2006, 07:52 AM
Unbelievable how much of a controversy this "Vince" and other miscellaneous names he's given himself, has caused. But despite how much he's aggravated a lot of people, he continues to sell his "mint" condition phones. How does he not get the hint? After all the pages and continuous threads over the last several weeks, the warning about him is clearly known. So "Vince", grow some nuts and tell us what you've got to say about all of this, we all know that you're reading all of this, but yet you have yet to admit to us what your story is and defend your controversial sales tactics. Please step forward ... inquiring minds want to know......

dav1209
Aug 22nd, 2006, 12:55 PM
i'm not defending him or anything but buying it used and resell it doesn't sound like ripping ppls off
the way i see him is try to make profit from buying something and resell it to some1 who really need it at higher price
make ppls going around is not really good but can't say it's bad
lower ball and playing don't know about it is his skill and you can't say that's the rip off
he doesn't have a phone on hand but post advertise is okie also BUT u have to straight up that u don't have it on hand and tell other buyer to wait if they are willing to...I already post items up for sale when i don't even have it on hand but i telling customer straight about that if they willing to wait.
i see alot of ppls selling items to him and satisfied
so i would say this guys is worth to deals if u are the seller
if u are the buyer just make sure checking the items carefully before u pay
also there is alot of ppls deals with him and know his # or address so if something go wrong still able to find him...
i already read through this thread and didn't see much complain on him

to 1xTiMeR : i don't know if u were him or not but Life is not go on by ripping off other ppls
but it's also your respone when u get ripped...everything can be happen in this world so be4 doing anything you your brain to think carefully...
if something 2 good 2 be true then it would be a scam.

he seem like a guys buying used stuff and cheap stuff try to resell in better price. Lower ball is okie (everyone want to buy cheap..and cheaper..that why we on RFD) if u don't want sell cheaper then just ignore it...
and just for some1 buying from him...just ask him to send the pictures of the items be4 dealing with him...to make sure he has the items on hand and can see what the real condition of the items.
just my 2cents
Dave

sfu_engineer
Aug 22nd, 2006, 04:20 PM
Wtf? Not where I'm from.... :|

Here is what I found on "long fingernails":

In this transition period some basic Chinese customs of later history are supposed to have originated. Previously people sat on floor mats, as the Japanese continued to do, but now chairs came into common use. Also, the bizarre and disturbing custom of binding the feet of women began, an affectation, as with the long fingernails of the Mandarin bureaucrats, to display one's freedom from physical labor.
http://www.friesian.com/sangoku.htm

It seems that by having long fingernails you distinguish yourselves from the people who have to do demeaning physical labour.

Motonoki
Sep 3rd, 2006, 08:16 AM
This guy probably speaks limited english for real, however, his manipulation of his "customers" is most definately real. He had a friend of mine who went to see his Sony pick him up at one place and drive him home. He claims to be an exchange student and has no car. Yes, he buys low and sells higher with no regard for the condition of the item. When he has a phone in mint condition he charges premium dollars for it.

What's more amazing than anything else about this guy is that he has probably sold $1000.00 of dollars worth of product in the past year or so. He has done this under false pretences, for the most part. So, who is buying from him? Are some of us not checking reset lifetimers or looking for signs of modification or the phone being serviced etc..

Anyway, he can change his addy, phone number etc...and we wouldn't know. So, caveat emptor and lets continue to give each other a heads up about perps like this little antagonizing out of towner. At least if we know who it is, any conversation we have with him won't go past the phone call. :)

jvaf
Sep 13th, 2006, 03:53 PM
GENCHANG IS BACK

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319511

jvaf
Sep 13th, 2006, 04:19 PM
he is viewing this thread as we speak :D

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (2 members and 0 guests)
jvaf, tonyt

bubble.tea
Sep 13th, 2006, 04:20 PM
i see him.

Luvkitten
Sep 13th, 2006, 06:51 PM
He just tried to sell me a "brand new" Samsung P207...saying that jus the front screen doesnt work. He wrote me as "Tonyt" and he gave a number 4166279588. Thanks for the heads up!

munsifn
Sep 24th, 2006, 11:15 AM
i just got a PM from "tonyt" wanting to buy my d600. haven't replied yet, but he left a number to contact him 4166279588

not sure if want to sell to him after i read this stuff..

bubble.tea
Sep 24th, 2006, 12:33 PM
i just got a PM from "tonyt" wanting to buy my d600. haven't replied yet, but he left a number to contact him 4166279588

not sure if want to sell to him after i read this stuff..
whaddyou care?

take his money., go to the meet with people who've been scammed by him in past. After you get your money., let them have their way with him :lol:.

jvaf
Oct 5th, 2006, 09:26 AM
how is i possible that one man , keeps coming back after being banned soo many times, lol

lol hes back

by-cy
Oct 5th, 2006, 12:33 PM
kk.. I got a question, how do you get scammed? Don't you guys test the phone and stuff out before buying? Or do you mean, scammed as a no show.. never meets up and backs out of deals?

blazerzr2
Oct 6th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Genchang is back! His id is now JasonT.

What's wrong with this guy???!!

Rehan
Jan 9th, 2008, 02:32 PM
He was back most recently as weijun1, as someone let us know.
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/member.php?u=59844

i-o_o-i
Jan 9th, 2008, 03:01 PM
He was back most recently as weijun1, as someone let us know.
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/member.php?u=59844

weijun1=genchan? My friend and I both have sold something to weijun1 and have had no problems with him as a buyer.

JAC
Jan 9th, 2008, 05:16 PM
how is i possible that one man , keeps coming back after being banned soo many times, lol

Because RFD does not post emails and IP addresses that the scammers use to register. All information posted is done so by members.

BYan
Jan 9th, 2008, 06:37 PM
why keep your fingernails long, thats nasty.... I wonder what girls think of that.

Ummm... different cultures bear sentiment to different values and habits? Great way to drum up a typically closeminded, immature reply to a bit of information helpfully provided by somebody else to an inquiry. :rolleyes:

bobbings
Jan 11th, 2008, 12:21 AM
weijun1 is genchang? I just sold him my psp two days ago and it went smoothly. actually met up at his "house" (who knows if it really was). seemed like a cool guy, he looked at the psp, was fine with it and gave me the money. no problems whatsoever. Looking at his 20+ positive feedbacks and 1 negative, I wouldn't have thought that he was a scammer. Didn't look to see if he had any long fingernails though because I didn't come to this page until after our transaction. I would like more info on this guy because I was kind of surprised to see him banned. But I'm just happy that my deal went smoothly. Thank God.

edit: you know what, I just realized that all the old accounts like tonyt and genchang and weijun has the same phone number and come to think of it, his English is horrible. dayam I was actually dealing with a scammer and he was actually sitting in my car...

Shampoo.kr
Jan 17th, 2008, 01:58 AM
Uhhhh, if you dealt with this scammer, did you check to see if the money you got from him was real??????

The long nails are probably because he snorts coke, or uses them to pick at his nose or ears

ewww