the OFFICIAL UNIVERSITY OF WATERLOO thread

[nkwu]

In the spirit of therest of the threads I thought I'd start one

I'm taking SE, staying in a V1 Single Room, 1A

what about eveyrone else.

[divx]

I'm assuming you are in 1st year, pretty sure v1 is for 1st year only. Anyway, have fun partying, either you want it or not.

I be going to 2B EE, heard 2B is the killer.

[nkwu]

^my friend is worried about 2B too. and yes, I am a First Year

[divx]

^my friend is worried about 2B too. and yes, I am a First Year
Everyone is worried about 2B due to the massive lab work, 1 per week just for one of the courses, I'm guessing the I will see more of last term's repeat, free overnight sleeping at the labs for all. :) Party at the labs!!! NOT, haven't tried myself but I'd image it's not that comfy sleeping in the lab.

[nkwu]

^....christ.

[Raptor7]

I've heard the basement of RCH is a sweet spot for overnight stays. There's couches, and no windows. You may not see it as a class though, i think it was us mechs and civils down there back in first year.

V1 is more of a jail like environment :p Communal i suppose, but MKV/REV is a little less prison like.

[mingming]

Just finished my last final in 4A Elec today.

Actually, 2B was my best term. The labs are not that bad. Our class was most scared going in because of ECE241 with Barby. It ended up not being all that bad.

The 231 labs are a joke, Paul Hayes is the easiest TA out there.

261, you'll have Bumbali, those labs are easy too.

241 now that Cuberto is taking care of most of the labs, should be easy too since he's a pretty nice guy and really helpful. You can email him Sunday night and he'll give you the answers.

In fact, 3A was my worst term, due to lack of labs. Good thing about labs is that they're easy marks, less pressure for finals.

I recommend you look for "legacy" copies of labs, they hardly change them from last year's.

Wait til you get to 4A with design project, this was a BUSY term. But I survived, now off to 4B!!!

[TechRock]

partying at waterloo...plz you must be jk

[mingming]

partying at waterloo...plz you must be jk

I party plenty in Waterloo. There's not a week I dont go out at least once.

[Raptor7]

Textbooks comment

I like probably many 1st year newbs, went out and bought every textbook for every course I had. Mistake. I hardly opened half of them.

Many profs assign problem sets, which may or may not be from the text book, but may also have the questions there for you on the PDF scanned right out of the book.

If you're someone who needs to read the text all the time to learn, go right ahead, for me, paying attention and good notes is enough, and borrowing from a classmate the oddtime. For someone who is good at just taking good notes and doing assignments, wait and see how your prof does things. Remember the book store is open all year.

For those of you in Mech, i can attest to the following:
1st year
Chemistry [1A] - since you only have 1 in 1A ever, if you can get by without the textbook, go for it.
ME100 [1A]- i shouldnt have bought those little crappy ethics book things, the course notes were what you use all the time (then anyway)
Physics [1A/B]- you end up using it twice, and i found it to be a really good book (the red one with the cool hologram thinger on it)
MSCI [1B] - course notes were it, the text book was useless for me
Algebra [1A] - stupid textbook again, did assignments instead
Calculus [1A/B] - good text book, but my prof gave other assignments, so had i not had it i prolly wouldnt have, but you use it more than once.
Materials [1B] - decent text, you'll probably need it for labs, but you might be able to work without it/borrow a friends, course notes were good
Gene121 [1B] - i knew C going into it, but it makes a good resource if you dont, and if you do i might add. tough call. personal pref.
Electrical [1B] -crappy textbook, labs, assignments, course notes, were good enough

Additional - buy Schaums for calculus! They'll recommend it, and get the right one, you'll use it every term!

2nd Year
MODS [2A/B]- fantastic textbook (the green Hibbler one), buy it, you'll use it more than one term as well
Calculus [2A/B] - assignments made it obsolete
Electrical [2A] - crappy textbook, labs, assignments, course notes, were good enough
Stats [2A] - course notes were all there was i think?
Thermodynamics [2B] - gooood text book, i scrounged up the 4th edition, theyre on the 5th. thermo is tough, it was very helpful to me. also you'll need the properties book for the exams.
Materials [2A]- same text, 50/50 for needing it. course notes for the win again
Logic [2B]- course notes for the win - no text?
Dynamics [2B]- fantastic again, (Hibbler red book), it was greatly needed to make sense of what the prof was saying.


Hopefully, my memory serves me on what classes were in what term there.

Basically, you can save lots of $$ if you check out your course first. Depends on the profs style, as many hand out assignments with the questions scanned from the text, or new ones completely. So its personal preference. And besides, the store is open year round, so if youre finding youre really needing it, go buy it. That way you wont be in line for long either.

Any odd time you do need a textbook, for whatever reason, you can ask to borrow, as its usually during a lab and youre in a group anyway. Just wait and see, theres no real harm.

Also, i've had profs on the first day announce that he thinks the recommended textbook for the class sucks and he wont be using it, so another reason to hold the cash.

Just to note, if you don't know - "course notes" are in fact notes, put together by the prof to suppliment the course, and since there his/hers, theyre usually exactly whats being covered. Some are indepth to the point that the in class overheads/slides are the course notes exactly, or some are just the same things said a little different with different examples. Often, theyre a super cheap textbook, since the prof might not like any of the text books out there.

[TurboRegal]

Going into nanotechnology 1a, yay!
Staying with my mennonite homies at the CGUC! :lol:

[Raptor7]

heh, nanotech, you're tuition must be nice, i thought i had it bad in mech.

[xaueious]

As for mechanical 2nd year (I am in 1B), how do you rate the difficulty of the courses.

Is 2nd year a lot tougher than first year? I bearly survived first year...

[divx]

As for mechanical 2nd year (I am in 1B), how do you rate the difficulty of the courses.

Is 2nd year a lot tougher than first year? I bearly survived first year...
just the first term pain in the @$$, after that, it's straight sailing.

[jljdaigl]

I am going into CompEng 2B and everyone says that this is the term to watch out for but as previously said although labs may be challenging they are generaly easy marks and I prefer that then to put all the weight on the final.

Anyone that has done 2B compeng got any pointers for me???

As for partying in waterloo I dont know what you are talking about, my housemates and I threw 3 parties ourselves last term, we go out at least once a week (given its not midterms or finals) and have fun all the time!!

All you gotta do is put yourself out there, and remember to balance your workload with relaxation/fun time.

[99forever]

Haven't you heard the corny joke "2B or not 2B"?
It's supposed to be the defining term for Elec and it's either 2A,2B, or 3A for Comps in that if you make it through, then odds are you will be able to make it all the way.
I don't think it gets any easier or harder after 2B, but once you go through 2B, it shows that you have what it takes to rough it out.

I'm graduated already and every term you're in seems to be the hardest until you realize one important thing about Waterloo Engineering. As an engineering student, you're in a professional program intended to get you a job at the end of it. Being at Waterloo means you come out with some pretty good experience. That being said, I would say majority of Waterloo Engineering grads start work right away and if that's the case with you, then marks mean very little since you have the experience. Your experience will probably outweigh your marks in terms of searching for a job so you don't really need exceptional marks, you only need passing to decent marks. Once you've made that realization, school gets a lot easier and more relaxed.

However, if your plan is grad school, then 2B will be hard and every term after that will be brutal.


I am going into CompEng 2B and everyone says that this is the term to watch out for but as previously said although labs may be challenging they are generaly easy marks and I prefer that then to put all the weight on the final.

Anyone that has done 2B compeng got any pointers for me???

As for partying in waterloo I dont know what you are talking about, my housemates and I threw 3 parties ourselves last term, we go out at least once a week (given its not midterms or finals) and have fun all the time!!

All you gotta do is put yourself out there, and remember to balance your workload with relaxation/fun time.

[civ@uw]

Going to 2A Mech this fall...I have no idea what to expect.

[mingming]

It's crazy, that only about 1 or 2 people failed out of our 2B term.

But for 3A, a lot of people failed that. Our class went from 100 people at the end of 2B to 90 people after 3A.

I think that term they profs were out to screw us, cuz it WAS really hard exams. However, once 3B started, they kinda loosened up, even our circuits course 332 with Sedra (the dean and Barby) was not that bad. so pretty much NO ONE failed out of 3B from our class.

As for parties, only during the summer it's a bit more dry. Especially this term with Bomber closed for renovations. But we still go out plenty, Fubar, Caesars on Thursday. And also KZONE any day of the week. We've made pretty good friends with the manager and workers there that they throw us a free dozen of beer whenever we go. :cheesygri :cheesygri Free booze always taste better.

[mingming]

Going to 2A Mech this fall...I have no idea what to expect.

I found that my "A" terms were the worst, and my "B" terms I do pretty well. I just finished 4A, hopefully when marks come out Sunday the same trend DOESNT happen....

[jljdaigl]

I know what you mean 99forever, I do not work my ass off for the highest grades I could get, I am happy with decent grades that allow me to gain all the experience I need and have fun at the same time. I do not plan on grad school, thats for sure! Good advice, just make sure you dont fail and you should be fine, I just hope that the labs are interesting, it will at least give me some incentive to get through them lol

[civ@uw]

My 1A term went much better than my 1B term...but that had a lot to do with mental exhaustion. Fortunately theres only 4 months of school at a time from here on in! Seriously I'd go nuts if I had to stay in school for 8 months :|

On a brighter note, it turns out that FEDS bus will survive after all!

http://uwstudent.org/rdc/2006/08/11/board_approves_fed_bus_licence

[99forever]

hmmm...looking at the course list for 2B Comp, it really doesn't look that bad.
I graduated from Elec with a Comp option so I took all the required courses from both Elec and Comp. judging from the course list for 2B Comp vs 2B Elec, Comps have it a lot better. The 222 labs are great, it may take a while in the lab, but you get to play with a microcontroller. The course itself isn't too hard. 241 labs are totally useless, but the course itself is good if you have a good prof. I really liked the assignments for 251 because I'm a programming geek at heart. 204 is just plain pointless.

For the Elecs in 2B, all three labs are totally useless and just a waste of time. It's purely just follow what the instructions say and then try to make some things up in the lab report to explain the results. Worst lab term ever. In terms of the actual course, 231 sucks, 241 is good, 261 sucks, and math 212 sucks. Looking back, 2B wasn't necessarily the hardest, it was just the least interesting. 3A is probably harder for the elecs, but you have fun things mixed in there like 222 and some easy things like 309.


I know what you mean 99forever, I do not work my ass off for the highest grades I could get, I am happy with decent grades that allow me to gain all the experience I need and have fun at the same time. I do not plan on grad school, thats for sure! Good advice, just make sure you dont fail and you should be fine, I just hope that the labs are interesting, it will at least give me some incentive to get through them lol

[Tharyn]

I just finished 3A Elec today... had my 342 final just this morning, hahah. I definitely slacked this term due to the lack of labs, and my marks suffered. It's extremely difficult to do assignments when none of them are mandatory. :lol:

[divx]

I just finished 3A Elec today... had my 342 final just this morning, hahah. I definitely slacked this term due to the lack of labs, and my marks suffered. It's extremely difficult to do assignments when none of them are mandatory. :lol:
you came this far and still lack of self motivation? :lol:

[Evgeny]

1B Mechatronics Engineering student here going into my 2nd coop term. Can't wait - 1B sucked all the living juices out of me. The term couldnt've ended soon enough.

[rayesyn]

3B computer engineering student (well going into 3B in Sep. '06)

i should be working on my WTR not surfing RFD......lol.

[Tharyn]

you came this far and still lack of self motivation? :lol:

Well I'll do the assignments... two days before the final ;) works just the same.

[divx]

Well I'll do the assignments... two days before the final ;) works just the same.
whatever works :)
final worth 100%, study hard the night before, and get 90%+ on the final ;) i've done it so many times

[nwwong]

Well I just finished up a term here. Just wondering though, are there any places around to get "textbooks that have been xeroxed"?

I know toronto has these stores, but none from waterloo from what I know of.

[divx]

Well I just finished up a term here. Just wondering though, are there any places around to get "textbooks that have been xeroxed"?

I know toronto has these stores, but none from waterloo from what I know of.
which store in toronto? location?

[nkwu]

I'm interetsed in those stores too. I know this isn't a BST Thread, but if anyone reading has a "Linear Algebra with Applications" 5th Edition(Copyright 06) Get at me by PM. I think it's the first year htey used it though.

For those engineers, Ithink a majority of 101 (like me: SE 101) use a Introduciton to Professsional Engineering and Little Brown Compact Handbook. What's in the Intro to Pro Engineering book?

[TurboRegal]

heh, nanotech, you're tuition must be nice, i thought i had it bad in mech.

Hmm, ya it's pretty hefty, like 6000 per semester.... Oh well, you get what you pay for...

This is RFD, so just wondering, does anyone have a coupon code or a way to get this any cheaper :lol:

[jayehs]

ummm 2B in comp engineering is NOT the hardest term. It is the point where it starts to get hard. I would say 3B was the hardest and most work by far, then 3A then 2B. 4A could be hard depending on what you are taking and 4th year design project implementation.

2B was only hard for us since 241 lab was absolutely ********. Ed Spike had no guidelines and procedures or anything for those labs, they were absolute mess. I know so many people that got 30% on those labs because they weren't sure what they had to put in the reports. My reports were 40 pages each so i ended up doing ok. But then this was long time ago. So many people complained that year about how disorganized the labs were. I heard Ed Spike even has a powerpoint slides up during the labs now that shows exactly what you have to do... :P

Advice? just make sure you keep up with 241 cuz there's quite a bit of material. don't leave it till last minute before the exam, there are lot of practice questions to do. other than that there's not much else.. 222 was fun. 251 was just plain dumb. i don't know if they changed the course or not but looking back i don't remember a single thing we did in that course other than stupid assignments in prolog which you'll never use again. 204 was pretty easy and 231 was ok also.

[dyangu]

I'm interetsed in those stores too. I know this isn't a BST Thread, but if anyone reading has a "Linear Algebra with Applications" 5th Edition(Copyright 06) Get at me by PM. I think it's the first year htey used it though.

For those engineers, Ithink a majority of 101 (like me: SE 101) use a Introduciton to Professsional Engineering and Little Brown Compact Handbook. What's in the Intro to Pro Engineering book?

That Linear book is new this year -_-'' I just finished first year and I'm stuck with the old one. You don't absolutely need it though, assigments are optional in that course.
Intro to prof eng is for that mandatory joke course, taught BY Applevich. Complete BS but you might need the book cause Applevich wanna make money. He's made a new edition every year for 3 years now... so you won't find it used any where.

Apparently a lotta people fail outta 1B in ECE... wonder how many of my classmates'll be back next semester.

[andrew2good4u]

I'll be in waterloo in september too. Computer science co op.


My rez is V1 west 1

[frog]

3B computer engineering student (well going into 3B in Sep. '06)

i should be working on my WTR not surfing RFD......lol.We're probably in the same class. I transferred out of '08 CompE to '09 EE this past summer but I'm still going to be taking 427 in the fall. My other 3 core classes will be with the 2BEs.

[veryhuman]

I just finished 4B act sci 2 days ago :D you guys have fun eh. V1 isnt just for first year (I stayed there for my entire 4th year, didnt like looking for sublets).

[mingming]

I've never stayed at V1, couldnt stand the food. I think I've eaten there twice all this time.

This was where I've stayed thru these years:

1A - Beck Hall (UW Place)
1B - MKV-West
2A - MKV-West
2B - 134 Columbia (WOCH)
3A - 134 Columbia (WOCH)
3B - MKV-West
4A - MKV-West

Now for my final term next winter...

4B - Wellesly (UW Place)

Talk about coming full circle!!! Also, definitely need MKV for summer (or try your best to). AC is your best friend during those hot months. All your friends will want to come over.

[jljdaigl]

I will have to admit, Residence was an amazing experience, Eby Hall 8th floor, UW Place, but I dont think I could go back, well maybe I could as a don but other than that I wont. Would rather save money by finding my own place and living with good friends. But I do know some people who are the complete opposite and who want to stay in res the whole time. Everyone is different I guess haha...

But AC was definately something I wish I had when I was in rez during the extremely hot summer :S that was brutal

[kgoyal]

ummm 2B in comp engineering is NOT the hardest term. It is the point where it starts to get hard. I would say 3B was the hardest and most work by far, then 3A then 2B. 4A could be hard depending on what you are taking and 4th year design project implementation.

2B was only hard for us since 241 lab was absolutely ********. Ed Spike had no guidelines and procedures or anything for those labs, they were absolute mess. I know so many people that got 30% on those labs because they weren't sure what they had to put in the reports. My reports were 40 pages each so i ended up doing ok. But then this was long time ago. So many people complained that year about how disorganized the labs were. I heard Ed Spike even has a powerpoint slides up during the labs now that shows exactly what you have to do... :P

Advice? just make sure you keep up with 241 cuz there's quite a bit of material. don't leave it till last minute before the exam, there are lot of practice questions to do. other than that there's not much else.. 222 was fun. 251 was just plain dumb. i don't know if they changed the course or not but looking back i don't remember a single thing we did in that course other than stupid assignments in prolog which you'll never use again. 204 was pretty easy and 231 was ok also.


I'm going into 3B Comp Eng in Sept 06. Any advice?

[jayehs]

Advice for 3B?

Courses themselves weren't too hard, just lot of work. I thought 318 was kinda tough cuz i don't like communication system but if you are into that stuff you should do okay. 355 for us was lot of work cuz of the PBX project which ate up lot of time. But I heard from a friend who just finished 3B that you don't do PBX anymore. So I can't really comment on that. I enjoyed 380 but the labs were a lot of work. It wasn't really hard at all but they make you type out all the equations on the computer and it took forever :P Not to mention reports were 40 pages each typed. ugh i'm looking at it right now.. that wasn't fun. lol. 427 was a good course, you learn VHDL. Final project wasn't too bad, i think it could've been done by 2 members. T.A.'s measure the performance of your project and if yours is over a certain point, you get an automatic 95% or something like that. so we just stopped as soon as ours reached that point. Of course lot of people in my classes spent so much time trying to outperform each others *snort snort*

Not much advices for the courses, just do what you have to do. so really only advice for 3B comes down to 4th year design project. Pick your prof. early as they get taken up quickly. I can't say much for the other groups but our advisor played absolutely zero role in our project and i'm sure it was the same for lot of other groups. So don't sit around trying to pick what prof would be most suitable for your project. Chances are that they can't do that much for you anyways. They are the ones that mark your interim report and final report so pick a nice prof.. don't go picking Barby haha.

for 4ydp, all you have to do in 3B is pick prof, topic, write a proposal and do a presentation. For the topic, if you choose to do software only, it shouldn't be too bad during 4A when you have to implement. Hardware is a lot tougher and costs lot more but more fun imo. If you do hardware, you should reserve your parts as soon as possible. When you implement it during 4A, you'd want to start early since I've seen few groups that had their parts fry near the end and they couldn't get replacement parts in time.

Just remember that your project only has to meet the customer requirements. It doesnt' necessary have to be fully functional. So if you think your project will be too tough or large in scale, then set your customer requiremetns low.

[dsgreens]

EX-Waterloo'er here (ie Alumni) offering �Advice from An Old Guy�

First year students, chill out with the text books, yes you will need them all but somebody will have them in PDF form. You�ll find that guy fast enough. Offer the guy a twenty for a copy and poof you�ve saved enough money for a semester worth of beer.

Residence RULES unless you choice not to MEET PEOPLE. So walk around talk to people. Join in on FROSH week, EVERY EVENT, and then join a FROSH committee. You�ll thank me. This will probably be the most memorable week of school, no slack assing it.

The MATH building sucks.

The Psyc build is a trip, get drunk then go for a walk over there.

Larry Smith is the best Prof on campus, take any class he offers, even if you�re not in Economics.

Visit Laurie (WLU) the people there are much prettier then you, it should be your dating pool.

Girls if you�re not in Engineering then walk by Engineering, chances are you�ll get at least one or two date offers.

POETS rules,

The Bomber is better.

The city of Waterloo has three post secondary schools, hence it is built and focused around students don�t be afraid to check it out.

For GOD sacks get out of your room.

Shower you sinky Mathis.

Thursday and Friday 8:30 am classes suck� avoid them. Same applies for 7 pm classes Wednesday�

Join a club or something, the more people you know the more likely you�ll get a job after graduation.

Shower you sinky Engineers

The Co-op process is hard and difficult accept it. But do it.

Waterloo can suck ass because admin doesn�t give a **** about you, you�re replaceable. So make the best out of it, ask question courteously and you�ll throw them off guard.

Your Professors will never mark anything you hand in, there is an Army of grad students to do that. So if something is wrong with your paper/assignment/exam make and appointment or show up to office hours and ask about it. Changes are you�re wrong but there is a good chance they�ll give you a couple marks anyway. Asking questions was worth about 5% a class for me.

If you **** something up academically, figure out why? It�s hard to believe but these courses are building blocks, 4th year will suck if you didn�t figure out 1st. On the other hand if you work hard it 1st, 4th is easy.

Relax it just school.

Shower you sinky Science people.

Find a Prof you like and get career advice, they know lots of stuff and people.

Being drunk in an exam, while fun is not a good way to take the edge off.

Pajamas while fun are not the right thing to where to class, you look stupid.

Booze and email do not mix.

Live off campus, but look early the good places go quick. You�ll need a deck.

That�s all I got, have a great time.

Dave

BMath, BA, MA, FOC 2000, FED 2001, VOC 97-01, Superfan founder, Canada Day 98-02, and a whole bunch of other ****.

[ryan123]

im gonna be in rev first year cs coop. SO what are u guys' opinons on REV?

[nwwong]

which store in toronto? location?

Oh, well I don't know the exact place. But I hear friends from UT buying copied texts from there. I didn't ask since they cater to UT students and proably won't have our UW textbooks.

[nwwong]

I just realized that like, 90% of this thread is engineers. Either there's a lot of us...or only engineers are nerd enough to post here ;)

[jljdaigl]

I know what you mean, I think its just that we are probably the ones who monitor RFD, I mean I know alot of people in other programs at UW and they barely ever touch a computer haha

[nkwu]

That Linear book is new this year -_-'' I just finished first year and I'm stuck with the old one. You don't absolutely need it though, assigments are optional in that course.
Intro to prof eng is for that mandatory joke course, taught BY Applevich. Complete BS but you might need the book cause Applevich wanna make money. He's made a new edition every year for 3 years now... so you won't find it used any where.



LOL, I wanna walk in with a photocopied version and sit in the first row. :lol: (Who read that other thread)?

But yea,I know the Linear bookwas new this year, I was just wondering if it was used in the summer term(by chance). I'm not to keen on getting it for retail, the chepaest I've found is 99(Chapters iRewards) bucks which is only 5 bucks cheaper than retail. Anyone have any waterloo bookstore hookups....;)(PM ME), or any textbook hookups for new ones?

[DragonFlame]

I gotta say dsgreen's post was the best :cheesygri

Going into first year myself in the science department ;)

Biotech/CA program and living in V1.

[akwok]

I'm entering 3A Computer Science.

Staying up till 4:00 AM PST to get my 2B marks.. :p

[Exodus]

Question...what happens to the unofficial marks? Do they go into some meeting and get reviewed?

[Tharyn]

Question...what happens to the unofficial marks? Do they go into some meeting and get reviewed?

My understanding of unofficial marks is that it gives you (the student) the chance to look over them before they're entered officialy into your transcript.

Because once they're official I don't believe its possible to have them changed.

But that's just my understanding of it.

[Brian99]

Beware the geese.

[divx]

I just realized that like, 90% of this thread is engineers. Either there's a lot of us...or only engineers are nerd enough to post here ;)
I was on here before I even heard the term "engineer".

[akwok]

Great. I stayed up till 7:00 AM, and all the marks are blank.

Lazy asses..

[Div]

Beware the geese.
Have the geese taken over from the maniac ducks?

[frog]

Question...what happens to the unofficial marks? Do they go into some meeting and get reviewed?That's pretty funny. Once the marks are on Quest, the TAs and profs are pretty much done with the course. They will review the marks before they submit the unofficial grades, which can involve scaling the class and/or looking at individual cases (e.g., bumping up a 48 to a 50, or an 88 to a 90). The profs will seldom make a change to a submitted grade even if you got a 48, because chances are they already gave you a couple extra marks.

The unofficial mark is mainly there for you to know without having to wait for the official grade, since profs can technically wait that long to submit their marks.

[veryhuman]

That's pretty funny. Once the marks are on Quest, the TAs and profs are pretty much done with the course. They will review the marks before they submit the unofficial grades, which can involve scaling the class and/or looking at individual cases (e.g., bumping up a 48 to a 50, or an 88 to a 90). The profs will seldom make a change to a submitted grade even if you got a 48, because chances are they already gave you a couple extra marks.

The unofficial mark is mainly there for you to know without having to wait for the official grade, since profs can technically wait that long to submit their marks.

Yup. Just a note, marks are never offical. They can be changed through appeals. For the math faculty, they meet every term to review each case.

[nwwong]

Yup. Just a note, marks are never offical. They can be changed through appeals. For the math faculty, they meet every term to review each case.

Might be different for math, but for eng, the reviews are done after the marks are official and they'll only make changes if you petition it.

[Rohit]

doing 2B mechatronics engineering this fall

[manho]

im gonna be in rev first year cs coop. SO what are u guys' opinons on REV?

it's too far (well, alright for mathie, but too far for engineers)

[RaLz]

Any 1st year soft eng students want to buy some textbooks! i have most of my 1A and 1B texts pm me.\

Oh and waterloo sucks! yippee welcome to hell

[xtracrispy123]

To all the froshies and 2nd year students who still fear:

Next time someone old tells you how tough its going to be, IGNORE THEM
Next time someone tells you 2b or not 2b, tell them to shove it up their ass.

Difficulty remains constant throughout the years, it just changes from hours and hours of useless assignments, to hours and hours of problem solving fewer questions.

Don't let anyone's BS reduce your confidence level, or keep you from joining that extra option or club or whatnot. Get out there. Do whatever you want, because honestly none of you will study till the last minute anyway.

To the ECE's who think they're king of the world and make jokes about the mechs or civs or chems: Shut up, the inter-discipline rivalry's stupid and annoying.

To the mechs who get made fun of: Join the 'tron option and beat the ece's at their own game.

To the nanos: good luck getting a job :lol:

[Bzji]

Sucks I have coop term during the fall term. Love all the FED and Bomber parties at the beginning of the term.

[mingming]

Another reason that 2B was my best term was that "2B or not to be" quote. It got everyone so scared that we put the extra effort.

In fact, it made me feel more comfortable after that 2B term that I completely bombed 3A. I didnt fail out, but my avg was much lower than 2B. I felt that after 2B, things would be smooth sailing, and I let my guard down.

[misskaren]

am i the only science student in this thread?

frig, i'm confused... i don't know where i belong. :confused:

do you think a mix of biotech/business/science will get me anywhere????

[BaconMunch]

yes you are the only science student and I am the only math student :D
There's more to Waterloo than just engineers, but try telling them that *rolls eyes*

[divx]

yes you are the only science student and I am the only math student :D
There's more to Waterloo than just engineers, but try telling them that *rolls eyes*
waterloo is known for engineering, are they well known for anything else?

[nanirina]

waterloo is known for engineering, are they well known for anything else?
waterloo is also known for 2 other programs --> Comp Sci and Actsci.

I just finished Comp Sci, and it wasn't fun.

[akwok]

waterloo is known for engineering, are they well known for anything else?

....

Good job.

[divx]

waterloo is also known for 2 other programs --> Comp Sci and Actsci.

I just finished Comp Sci, and it wasn't fun.
I never checked the rating for compsci and actsci. What's their ranking in those two?

school isn't suppose to be fun, especially university. people don't goto school for fun, people goto school to learn. you want fun? goto the wonderland.

[divx]

....

Good job.
:confused: excuess me for not knowing everything about uw

[jayehs]

waterloo is also known for 2 other programs --> Comp Sci and Actsci.

I just finished Comp Sci, and it wasn't fun.

and Accounting.

[dsgreens]

Alumni Back to offer my 2 cents,

Waterloo is one of 20 or so top engineering school around North America. Waterloo is one of only four or five elite Math schools in the English speaking world and the only on in Canada that offers an actual Math Degree: BMath. We also have the best Architecture school in Canada, the only Optometry school in English Canada. Science is also well regarded as strangely enough the Psychology program.

Basically it�s all good with the exception of Fine Arts, honestly people from Waterloo can�t draw.

You�re all on your way to the best technical school in Canada� Accept it, you�re better then your high school friends that didn�t get in.

Congrats.

[charliebrown]

and Accounting.

haha...i thought it was CS and accounting, and engineering :)

[DragonFlame]

am i the only science student in this thread?

frig, i'm confused... i don't know where i belong. :confused:

do you think a mix of biotech/business/science will get me anywhere????

Sci/Bus seemed like an interesting program, I'm doing the Biotech/CA thing.


yes you are the only science student and I am the only math student :D
There's more to Waterloo than just engineers, but try telling them that *rolls eyes*

Boo... I posted earlier somewhere on the fourth page :P I'm in Sci also.

[HarGow]

You're right, but you're missing math =P


haha...i thought it was CS and accounting, and engineering :)

[rcxAsh]

Hey guys, systems design student here; I will be entering PDENG25 this fall :-0

Heard that the new math students will be starting their own professional development program this term hehe.

Haha, anyway.. just finished 1B. Linear algebra was insane for us! o_O;

[RLP06]

I'm sure mathies are nerd enough too :P


I just realized that like, 90% of this thread is engineers. Either there's a lot of us...or only engineers are nerd enough to post here ;)

[jljdaigl]

Hey guys, systems design student here; I will be entering PDENG25 this fall :-0

Heard that the new math students will be starting their own professional development program this term hehe.

Haha, anyway.. just finished 1B. Linear algebra was insane for us! o_O;

HAHA Have fun with PDEng25 and for that matter 35 on the next round...its pretty lame...and yes Mathies are starting PDMath, I think it is spreading to other faculties aswell.

And yes I have some friends from Systems and they said that course was brutal.

[Ghostman]

Hey Everyone,

Just finished 4A like MingMing (Hey Mingming! ^_^).
For EE, I found overall that the B terms are more difficult than the A terms. Also, 2B and 3B, they are hard in terms of work work work, but because of all the labs and assignments, I found that my marks were actually decently high.

Piece of advice is that you should definitely get out there and do stuff. Join clubs, play sports, visit waterloo or kitchener....don't just stay in res and study.

^_^

[rcxAsh]

HAHA Have fun with PDEng25 and for that matter 35 on the next round...its pretty lame...and yes Mathies are starting PDMath, I think it is spreading to other faculties aswell.

And yes I have some friends from Systems and they said that course was brutal.Haha, I'll try to have fun :|

I think in theory, what they're trying to do is a good idea. However, I don't know if its implemented as well as it could be...

But it can be annoying indeed... when you come back from a full day of work only to find that you have a submit a new assignment as well as resubmit a past one -_-;

[Rizzuh]

Hey, I am in 3A Comp Eng, well just finished the term and hopefully going to 3B. Like Ghostman I have to say in terms of workload, the Bs are more. But because you have those labs and stuff I find my marks are usually better.

In 3A I felt I got a big break from how bad 2B was but I slacked off soooo much. I had 1:30 - 3:30 class, I probably slept half the term away....

[Ghostman]

I know what you mean Rizzuh...I think 3A was my worst term ever in terms of marks. :P

Well, good luck in 3B. :) I still can't believe I'm graduating in one term! Time seems to fly. :P

^_^

[jayslay]

anyone in sci bus for loo?

or sci in general?

[adehbone]

omg......somebody patent a PDMath sucks! shirt now....cuz in a years time....as many Math TAs will be hated as PDeng TAs were.....PD is such a waste of time and so stupid.....as a mathie i thought we had easier work reports too only like 8 pages....


anywayz you will all enjoy UW and have lots of fun...remember to kill it during frosh week...goto monte carlo and toga drink plenty before hand lol...and if your in village frosh...lots of fun stuff too..i know most of VOC and they are planning alot of fun stuff for you all

---------------------------------------

For students wanting to get involved, me and some friends started a new club called "UWEnable" over the summer, which will begin in fall...it has to do with helping UW kids get involved and volunteering...a valuable experience and can add alot to you kiddie's who need some references/experience for your first co-ops.....we are working with the ISO and OPD to assist them...with note taking and other programs.....if your interested to get involved come by the UWEnable booth on clubs day....and sign up...

if anyone has any other questions...email me at adehbone@gmail.com or enable.uwaterloo@gmail.com or pm.....

[swiftfox]

waterloo is also known for 2 other programs --> Comp Sci and Actsci.

I just finished Comp Sci, and it wasn't fun.

Waterloo is actually very well known for their hydrogeology program, and is one of the top three 'hydro' schools in the world.

And if you're asking yourself 'wtf is hydrogeology?', look it up.
If you're laughing because I'm talking about hydrogeology, just consider how much a bottle of water costs in the store (about $1 for a 500mL bottle, or $2/L). Compare that to oil - enough said.

In another 20 years, I predict hydrogeology will be in the forefront of our lives, as we run out of clean drinking water.

But don't go into this program if you plan on having a life for the next 5 years.

(W06 Honours Hydrogeology grad)

[nkwu]

^*enlightened* that's actually very intersting.

[ids748]

Not sure if I can post this here but what the heck.

I just finished my 1B term in Mechanical Engineering. I just got my last marks yesterday I averaged 61.33%. Talk about barely passing. I did so amazing in 1A without doing jack *****. Anyways does anyone here know how 2A is for Mechanicals's ?

ALso does anyone know the requirements for a failed course? I ended up gettin g 36% In Digitial Computation (C++) didnt go to many classes and ya desereved that. How do I clear this course? I checked UW's site but they just say i gotta clear it before graduation.

[Tharyn]

Not sure if I can post this here but what the heck.

I just finished my 1B term in Mechanical Engineering. I just got my last marks yesterday I averaged 61.33%. Talk about barely passing. I did so amazing in 1A without doing jack *****. Anyways does anyone here know how 2A is for Mechanicals's ?

ALso does anyone know the requirements for a failed course? I ended up gettin g 36% In Digitial Computation (C++) didnt go to many classes and ya desereved that. How do I clear this course? I checked UW's site but they just say i gotta clear it before graduation.

I'm not entirely sure, but I believe that if you obtained an average between 40-50 in the course you can simply write the supplemental final next time the course is offered. But in your case I believe you need to retake the course in its entirety, labs and all.

36% is also the lowest possible grade you obtain in a course.

But yeah, you should clear that ASAP, but it'll probabaly mean overloading (taking it in addition to your regular courses / electives) at some point in time.

Slightly more info here:
http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~year1web/clearing_failures.html

[adehbone]

nice job 61% is good!....my friends failed with 59 and 58 avgs last yr now that hurts....8 month vacation is no fun.......my friends in 2A Mech had it tough i think you have to take 6 courses again as one is a another mech special thingy....i remember my one buddy said 2A is easier than 1B but still tough for them....3A i heard is the toughest for mechs.....

with the 36%....32 is the lowest mark actually i have gotten one before.....this means you passed the term...but must make up the course later on......most ppl in mech or chem or civil.....fail the programming courses.......alot of them take C++ at ryerson or something during a co-op where it is substanially easier.....my friend just completed his C++ he failed in 1B....during his 5th co-op before 4A...i belevie he did it at ryerson or mac.....

[Demonwar]

Hey I finished first year at Waterloo Math/Accounting.

Here are some tips:

I thought accounting courses would be joke so i slacked off, and it screwed me over in the end. i still got a good mark, but not enough to compete with arts/accounting people in the end.

Lived in rev, my floor was a little too much partying for me, and bothered me a bit with me never being able to sleep, but i lived through it, had a great time, i was even a tour guide, and had a blast. oh ya, me not having a roomate and getting the whole double room to myself for 8 months certainly helped =)

To the mathies, you get lots of hard assignments in first year, but they are worth 1% each or a little more. Don't stay up all night like I did, and almost all first years do, trying to do every question. Even if you just pass, you only get 0.5% deducted from your final mark, which is insignificant in the end, and there is better use of your time. but do attempt every assignment, and every question, even if you don't get the right answer. it will help alot in the final exam, which is way easier than the asssignments.

also, if you can't stand handing in an assignment, knowing you will get a bad mark like me =), copy and figure out things later. all mathies do it, and as long as you are not super obvious, no ta really cares when marking.

if you don't believe in copying, talk to me after first year is over =)

*the above was referring to math assignments only

NEVER EVER copy for CS assignments, you will get caught easily, and waterloo is dead serious about cheating in CS. you will lose 5% of your overall mark and get flagged by the dean. there is no first chance warning, consider yourself warned now. swallow your pride and fail an assignment if you can't do it, and figure out how to do it later.

Start Cs assignments early, like a week ahead, or else you run the risk of not finishing.

Don't waste your time looking for a girls in the math faculty. Go to Arts, or laurier down the street.

if you don't like your lecturer, switch to another class. for my calc2 class i switched between 3 different lecturers and ended with a 90. most of everything u learn will be from your textbook, and working on assignments, lectures just supplement that

don't worry about skipping a few classes, just don't skip a lot.

skipping classes to study for exams i recommend, if you don't have enough study time.

sleep will be one of your few joys

get involved, and make friends, and meet people

[ids748]

nice job 61% is good!....my friends failed with 59 and 58 avgs last yr now that hurts....8 month vacation is no fun.......my friends in 2A Mech had it tough i think you have to take 6 courses again as one is a another mech special thingy....i remember my one buddy said 2A is easier than 1B but still tough for them....3A i heard is the toughest for mechs.....

with the 36%....32 is the lowest mark actually i have gotten one before.....this means you passed the term...but must make up the course later on......most ppl in mech or chem or civil.....fail the programming courses.......alot of them take C++ at ryerson or something during a co-op where it is substanially easier.....my friend just completed his C++ he failed in 1B....during his 5th co-op before 4A...i belevie he did it at ryerson or mac.....

I wouldnt really consider 61 a good mark lol its just above pass. The thing is i was introuble near the end of the term missed over 50% of lectures and wasnt up to date oon anything. I knew with the amount of time i had I had to fail one course and spend time in other courses to pass which is wat i ended up doing. Oh well learnedmy lesson this time. IN 1A did the same thign but ended with liek 70+ avg. 1B is diff story.

[mingming]

I wouldnt really consider 61 a good mark lol its just above pass. The thing is i was introuble near the end of the term missed over 50% of lectures and wasnt up to date oon anything. I knew with the amount of time i had I had to fail one course and spend time in other courses to pass which is wat i ended up doing. Oh well learnedmy lesson this time. IN 1A did the same thign but ended with liek 70+ avg. 1B is diff story.

Well, for some people, they see relief when they get a 61% average. Especially after a really hard exam or a bunch of really hard exams. Panic modes starts to kick in and all you want is that 60% average to get to the next term. I know I have had those days where I hope I passed the term. But by the time 3B or 4th year kicks in, it's pretty much a given that profs try to prevent failing people.

But usually it works out better than you thought it was.

[lil_LL]

Hey, guys. I have a little problem. Im moving into Waterloo this coming weekend, but my parents do not own a car, which therefore means I need help moving my stuff up there. Is there anyone else in the same situation as me, who wants to rent a moving truck together to get up there?
ORRRR Is anyone willing to drive me and my things up there this Sunday to my V1 campus and I will pay them for this little trip? Thanks. PM PLZZZ!!!

[divx]

Hey, guys. I have a little problem. Im moving into Waterloo this coming weekend, but my parents do not own a car, which therefore means I need help moving my stuff up there. Is there anyone else in the same situation as me, who wants to rent a moving truck together to get up there?
ORRRR Is anyone willing to drive me and my things up there this Sunday to my V1 campus and I will pay them for this little trip? Thanks. PM PLZZZ!!!
Your problem isn't so bad, I moved from SK and didn't drive here, got around fine. I been here 2 years without a vehicle and it's just fine, I'm sure you will figure something out.

[CB4Fan]

no one is going to grad school ?.. I am aiming for a 90% next term ..

[Tharyn]

no one is going to grad school ?.. I am aiming for a 90% next term ..

You'll find, at least in my experience, that most Engineering students become extremely jaded with the faculty by the end of their undergrad that many are reluctant to go back for a masters.

That being said, Waterloo is extremely hurting for "home grown" graduate students (in Engineering) as the population of Engineering Grad students is composed predominantly of International students rather than Canadian students. The Dean's even set out a plan in order to increase the number of Canadian grad students over the next several years, but we'll see how it pans out.

[nkwu]

So where's this photocopy shop I hear of that sells the photocopy'd texts? It doesn't seem to be too well known.

[divx]

You'll find, at least in my experience, that most Engineering students become extremely jaded with the faculty by the end of their undergrad that many are reluctant to go back for a masters.

That being said, Waterloo is extremely hurting for "home grown" graduate students (in Engineering) as the population of Engineering Grad students is composed predominantly of International students rather than Canadian students. The Dean's even set out a plan in order to increase the number of Canadian grad students over the next several years, but we'll see how it pans out.
Heh, I got wore out after the first term, the only way I will do masters is if it's company sponsored and pay my full salary while I'm at university. Yep, no way in hell will I do masters otherwise.

[dchanrough]

im gonna be in rev first year cs coop. SO what are u guys' opinons on REV?

I'm staying at REV too (first year math/ca). Everyone I've talked to from REV seems to really like it. Too bad it's so far =(.

[Tomy]

REV sucks and its so far and old.

get outta there whenever u can ;)

and the food there closes early too!

[jayslay]

REV is amazing for partying and making friends but school wise its the worse residence b/c

its too social and your never alone
its about 15min walk to classes
the food closes early so you have to walk 5-10 to get food after 7pm

[Alvito]

living in laurelwood was the ****, i sold 100 tons of weed to 6 year olds.

[lil_LL]

Hey, hows the Kin program at Waterloo?

[mikeydavison]

I graduated Comp-Sci Co-op in 2000. Here's what got me through it all in one piece:

1. RELAX. Socializing and enjoying your time in university is as important, if not more, than academics. Don't be one of those people who looks back on their 4-5 years wondering what they missed.

2. Don't expect the same marks you got in high school. If you follow #1, you're not going to get the 90s you're used to, and I highly recommend you don't worry about it. Marks aren't everything, and most employers (myself included) don't care about them much past 1A/1B.

3. Get to know lots of people in your program. They will be an invaluable resource when you need help with your course work.

4. Don't worry about most math assignments. They're worth 1% each, so don't stay up until 5:00 am finishing them.

5. If you're going to copy, learn to do it well. Don't just hand in someone else's work and not expect to get burned. Be sure to learn what you're copying, and further to spend a reasonable amount of effort making it look different than the source material. It isn't that hard, it just takes practice. Even in first year, it is not too early to start looking for the CS 351 (operating systems course) assignment. Believe me, you'll thank me later!

6. Pay it forward! Share your experience and time with younger students. My proudest moment came in 4th year when I was introduced to a 2nd year student that knew me by name because of the work I'd shared with others.

Good luck everyone!

[ak47num1]

Sorry to hijack this thread, but does anyone know how to opt out of the Coop Health Plan? It seems we no longer just fill in the opt-out form and have to opt out online through studentcare.net.

Is this true?

And to those who are going into a study term, best of luck!

[Madchester]

Studentcare.net should only be for dental plan...

I just went to the site to opt out of the dental plan, but they are only letting you opt out during the first two weeks of school or so... i.e, Sept. 11 onwards.

[ak47num1]

Studentcare.net should only be for dental plan...


So we still use the old opt out form to opt out of the health plan? Thanks for your clarification.

[civ@uw]

Is it this charge?:

Co-op Supplementary Health 71.34

That's still in my Quest account even after I sent in my promissory note along with the Opt-Out form, so I think they're doing something different now.

EDIT:

One other thing. This is a double post, but has anyone attempted to hand in work reports off schedule? So let's say you have a work report due in the upcoming academic term, instead what you do is hand it in the academic term after that. Feedback from engineers is especially appreciated.

[ak47num1]

Is it this charge?:

Co-op Supplementary Health 71.34

That's still in my Quest account even after I sent in my promissory note along with the Opt-Out form, so I think they're doing something different now.

Yes. This is it. Sorry I can't answer your other question.

[munchie]

In the spirit of therest of the threads I thought I'd start one

I'm taking SE, staying in a V1 Single Room, 1A

what about eveyrone else.

OH children... LOL...

CPH has the best class rooms to stay over night in!!!! The rooms in RCH are really dark even when you turn the lights on.

Also, the new Earth Science building is great - the mini cafe in there appears closed, but it's NOT!!! :-)

Good luck to all your youngin's. You can make UW an awesome party place if you try.

[ceraf]

any off-campus 1st years here?




arghh...why did i submit my res form late....*grumbles*

[nkwu]

Where are the damn shortcuts around campus? I knwo there's that bridge from DC to MC.

Also, I know there are tunnels under UW, are students allowed to use them? If so how do we get access?

[civ@uw]

I think the school's locked them down: http://matt.wandel.ca/tunnels/tunnels.html

Got a question about failing a course. How bad does a permanent 38 for a Non-GPA course look (its a work report)?

[konfusion666]

Where are the damn shortcuts around campus? I knwo there's that bridge from DC to MC.

Also, I know there are tunnels under UW, are students allowed to use them? If so how do we get access?

there are those "secret" service tunnels that someone just mentioned... but there are also various legit tunnels that you can use to get around. for example, Arts Lecture Hall to Hagey Hall (to PAS, to Modern Languages) to South Campus Hall ... there is a tunnel which allows you to traverse that bit. Very handy in the wintertime.

Although my knowledge is from before that "new" co-op building was built, so something could have happened to the tunnel since then :P

[suzihushen]

Answers to a few questions (though I went through UofW back in the dark ages!*l*)

1. There is a copy shop on site though it is buried somewhere (it should be in the school directory). Kinko also does some copied textbooks (next door in the plaza).

2. There are loads of tunnels. Some are service tunnels for staff and some are legit and open (like from SC Hall to HageyHall and various other places).

3. Personally for rez I lived in the "church" colleges (which weren't really religous!) St. Pauls and Renison have some great parties but also quiet study areas - loads of Engineering students and Arties as well. Benefits to these places is they are small so you get to know people and it's easy to swap roomies if you don't get along (decided to room with a friend in 2nd year but she was drunk wayyy too much so I swapped roommates with another friend and it worked out great with minimal hassle!).

4. Not sure about now, but the food in the CD at the M&C was always good AND cheap (I was an "artsy" and used to go there to hang with my friends in ActSci and nosh!).

5. Realistically, having done a BA and two other degrees, things don't get harder in your upper years, it is more a matter of staying focussed and adapting to the workload and to the profs and TAs (and if you get stuck with an idiot and can switch TAs or profs, depending on the circumstances, do it asap!)


Good luck to all! Uni at UofW are some of my fondest memories (Phillip St Coop as pretty good to live as well)!

[ceraf]

dang...the tunnels really got me interested in this university now. maybe i should switch to civil or chemical engineering, and i just might have a chance to go down there.


in my dreams.

[manho]

dang...the tunnels really got me interested in this university now. maybe i should switch to civil or chemical engineering, and i just might have a chance to go down there.


in my dreams.

you'll eventually figure out how to get from DWE/CPH to DC/MC/EIT without ever going outside during the coldest days

[Madchester]

According to one of my former employers (a UW alumni), there's a tunnel connecting Village 1 to SLC.

However, he claims that it got closed down over 10 yrs ago due to a sexual assault or rape incident in that particular tunnel.

[Madchester]

any off-campus 1st years here?




arghh...why did i submit my res form late....*grumbles*


We have a lot of froshies here in WCRI.... it's the buildings off-campus on Phillip Street. You can see them directly from the DC exit on Ring Road.

Being an assistant Division Manager (essentially an assistant Don) to 130 ppl in one building is rather hectic, since a lot of newbies have no idea how things are run here.

[demha88]

what this doing in OT

[demha88]

Moderators have closed the "Back to School" forum

they moved the school threads to "off-topic" and "past promotions"

oh ok

[dizzydevil]

The longest indoor path (not through service tunnels) that I know of is that you can walk from MC to all Eng buildings.

[drucillica]

According to one of my former employers (a UW alumni), there's a tunnel connecting Village 1 to SLC.

However, he claims that it got closed down over 10 yrs ago due to a sexual assault or rape incident in that particular tunnel.

I heard that too but we always just assumed it was an urban legend

[swiftfox]

back in third year, a buddy of mine and I were bored during studying, and went travelling through the tunnels..we got around all of science, through engineering, and then back towards ES and SCH. There are still plenty of open tunnels around..though I don't suggest walking down the SCH tunnel while drunk...the crazy paint job sure makes you dizzy

[j3fan]

back in third year, a buddy of mine and I were bored during studying, and went travelling through the tunnels..we got around all of science, through engineering, and then back towards ES and SCH. There are still plenty of open tunnels around..though I don't suggest walking down the SCH tunnel while drunk...the crazy paint job sure makes you dizzy

I believe all the buildings are connected except for the dana porter library.

[konfusion666]

I'm bringing this back to the top because I have a UW question for all you kids...

I'm taking a Dist Ed course from UW for Winter 07 and it's been about 4 years since I took a course there so I'm not that familiar with the whole Quest thing.

I did choose the courses in Quest though, and I confirmed that I'm succesfully enrolled... so how do I handle payment details? I keep checking the "Financials" section and I don't see anything telling me what I owe them for the courses... do they mail the stuff to you?

[j3fan]

I'm bringing this back to the top because I have a UW question for all you kids...

I'm taking a Dist Ed course from UW for Winter 07 and it's been about 4 years since I took a course there so I'm not that familiar with the whole Quest thing.

I did choose the courses in Quest though, and I confirmed that I'm succesfully enrolled... so how do I handle payment details? I keep checking the "Financials" section and I don't see anything telling me what I owe them for the courses... do they mail the stuff to you?

Waterloo is not technologically advanced yet to process electronic payments and display your financial data.

[konfusion666]

Waterloo is not technologically advanced yet to process electronic payments and display your financial data.

maybe you should lend them your l33t haX0ring skillz?

you should offer to revamp QUEST for free... make it better than Amazon.com's ordering system

[jayslay]

I'm bringing this back to the top because I have a UW question for all you kids...

I'm taking a Dist Ed course from UW for Winter 07 and it's been about 4 years since I took a course there so I'm not that familiar with the whole Quest thing.

I did choose the courses in Quest though, and I confirmed that I'm succesfully enrolled... so how do I handle payment details? I keep checking the "Financials" section and I don't see anything telling me what I owe them for the courses... do they mail the stuff to you?

if its for the 07 winter it shouldnt come up under fiance until the mid of dec. just wait, it'll come up

patiance my son

[aquariaguy]

Waterloo is not technologically advanced yet to process electronic payments and display your financial data.


Actually on QUEST they do show your financial data, a break down of every dollar and where it goes. Like, activity fee, donation fee, etc...

They don't have electronic payments, and i'm not sure if any schools even have that? Cuz that would mean paying by a credit card?? Which no schools do.

[hyperion]

I heard QUEST is horrible, is this true?

[drucillica]

I heard QUEST is horrible, is this true?

yeah, quest is a joke.

[j3fan]

Actually on QUEST they do show your financial data, a break down of every dollar and where it goes. Like, activity fee, donation fee, etc...

They don't have electronic payments, and i'm not sure if any schools even have that? Cuz that would mean paying by a credit card?? Which no schools do.

who said anything about credit card payments? You can pay electronically with your bank....they just need your bank info and permission to withdraw the amount you willing to pay....

[Alvito]

oh wow, walking to the building and dropping off a check is too much troublez. oh noes.

Seriously, write a check, ur student number, and put that ***** in the mail slot. DONE

You dont need to do bank transfers. or pay pal, or EMT...

[j3fan]

oh wow, walking to the building and dropping off a check is too much troublez. oh noes.

Seriously, write a check, ur student number, and put that ***** in the mail slot. DONE

You dont need to do bank transfers. or pay pal, or EMT...

But, whenever I pay them, I pay at the bank, I like my account to reflect this payment so that I don't accidentally withdraw funds required for my tuition....The other option is to get a money order...

[ryan123]

my friends are in stream 4, first year, and most of them still cant find a job. Do any of u guys have any experince or pointers on how to switch from stream 4 to stream 8. Is it too late to apply rite now?

[winner2000]

Is it too late to apply rite now?

In short, yes.

And as for not finding a job, steam 4's definitely have a harder time. That being said, they're going to have to be more active in their job search...flipping through JobMine everyday and applying for jobs there isn't enough. You gotta get out there and talk to upper years and try to network that way. Also they should look at applying to firms/companies outside of JobMine as well.

[moyboy]

a friend of mine found a job in late january, so its not too late. it just become a ***** to get to the interviews

[Dota]

go Laurier HBBA!

[civ@uw]

In short, yes.

And as for not finding a job, steam 4's definitely have a harder time. That being said, they're going to have to be more active in their job search...flipping through JobMine everyday and applying for jobs there isn't enough. You gotta get out there and talk to upper years and try to network that way. Also they should look at applying to firms/companies outside of JobMine as well.

Stream 4 is harder to find a job? There's so much less competition to get jobs for the Winter term compared to getting jobs in the Spring.

[konfusion666]

oh wow, walking to the building and dropping off a check is too much troublez. oh noes.

Seriously, write a check, ur student number, and put that ***** in the mail slot. DONE

You dont need to do bank transfers. or pay pal, or EMT...

bank transfers are easier. DONE

[aquariaguy]

who said anything about credit card payments? You can pay electronically with your bank....they just need your bank info and permission to withdraw the amount you willing to pay....

What do you mean?

When I pay, I just go to the bank, tell them I want to pay university of waterloo, give them my student number, and tell them the amount. I don't need any pieces of paper with me. Just the right amount.

How hard is that? Or you can mail a cheque, but bank is the fastest and easiest since I used do it last minute all the time.

[konfusion666]

paying it through your bank's online bill payment system is even easier, especially for those of us who haven't gone to a physical bank location in over a year...

[Nyte]

Am I missing something here? I've always paid by EFT...
To the person that said is it that hard to write a cheque. Yes is it. Have you ever had a cheque get lost by them, and then they are charging you late fees and won't budge even though its their fault? Happened to a friend of mine.


my friends are in stream 4, first year, and most of them still cant find a job. Do any of u guys have any experince or pointers on how to switch from stream 4 to stream 8. Is it too late to apply rite now?
The problem isn't between stream 4 or stream 8, it's that you're first years with no prior experience.

[rayesyn]

wrong thread mate, we know you want to be one of the Water-loosers like us :P


go Laurier HBBA!

[aquariaguy]

Am I missing something here? I've always paid by EFT...
To the person that said is it that hard to write a cheque. Yes is it. Have you ever had a cheque get lost by them, and then they are charging you late fees and won't budge even though its their fault? Happened to a friend of mine.


The problem isn't between stream 4 or stream 8, it's that you're first years with no prior experience.

If you talk to them nicely, they will void the charge. I think it was $100 if i remember correctly. I got charged because when they stopped mailing out the fee statement, I forgot to pay since I was waiting for that.

[divx]

Stream 4 is harder to find a job? There's so much less competition to get jobs for the Winter term compared to getting jobs in the Spring.
Who would hire someone with 3 month of university education? They aren't much better than a high school student.

[konfusion666]

Who would hire someone with 3 month of university education? They aren't much better than a high school student.

by that logic, stream 8 isn't any different since they only have an additional 3 months of university education and by your own admission... 3 months of university education is akin to a high school student :lol: :lol:

are you sure you're a UW graduate? :twisted:

[Nyte]

by that logic, stream 8 isn't any different since they only have an additional 3 months of university education and by your own admission... 3 months of university education is akin to a high school student :lol: :lol:

are you sure you're a UW graduate? :twisted:

He's not, he's in 2nd year if I remember correctly.

[konfusion666]

He's not, he's in 2nd year if I remember correctly.

whoops, must be thinking of another person

[B40]

Who would hire someone with 3 month of university education?

Probably the same company that would hire you :twisted:

j/k :razz: :|

[drucillica]

Who would hire someone with 3 month of university education? They aren't much better than a high school student.


you're an idiot.
plenty of companies hire people in stream 4. If they see you have potential, they'll hire you. There are plenty junior-level jobs out there.

Oh btw, I was in stream 4 and I got hired. Shocking, I know.

[konfusion666]

you're an idiot.
plenty of companies hire people in stream 4. If they see you have potential, they'll hire you. There are plenty junior-level jobs out there.

Oh btw, I was in stream 4 and I got hired. Shocking, I know.

yeah! I was in stream 4 and i got hired easily as well. The company i worked for back in 1A turned out to be the first company i worked for after leaving University, at which i stayed for over 2 years...

[divx]

by that logic, stream 8 isn't any different since they only have an additional 3 months of university education and by your own admission... 3 months of university education is akin to a high school student :lol: :lol:

are you sure you're a UW graduate? :twisted:

6 month is twice as long as 3 month, therefore, (on average) twice as likely as getting hired.

[konfusion666]

6 month is twice as long as 3 month, therefore, (on average) twice as likely as getting hired.

okokok.... please tell me you're not a UW grad... otherwise I just lost all faith in them as an institute of higher learning.

[divx]

you're an idiot.
plenty of companies hire people in stream 4. If they see you have potential, they'll hire you. There are plenty junior-level jobs out there.

Oh btw, I was in stream 4 and I got hired. Shocking, I know.
My response was to "Stream 4 having harder time to get their first job" by another member.

I did not say there is no chance of you getting a job, just that it would be harder than stream 8 students since they have twice as much education as stream 4 for their first co-op job. All else equal, you would agree you would hire someone with twice as much university education as the other guy right? 6 month vs 3 month here maybe minimal, but that's still twice as much uni there.

I been through countless interviews during first year, end up getting a job but took way longer than say, 2A and 2B, first interview gets me a job. UW kept statistics and first year have the highest unemployment rate compared to upper years.

[Dota]

okokok.... please tell me you're not a UW grad... otherwise I just lost all faith in them as an institute of higher learning.

depends on program, not the school.

[mingming]

Honestly, how many jobs are out there for co-op that requires a strong academic base from your courses. Yes, there are design jobs out there, etc that will require you to know a subject well, etc.

But for MOST jobs, all it requires is a little training for several weeks and that student will do a good job. Heck, lots of full time jobs are like that too.

So if you're talking about how hard to get a job based on university EDUCATION (as in academics), then it's not really such an advantage for someone with twice as much ACADEMICS. Again, it's the job that you are applying for.

What I notice more is people will look for a student that will best fit in their team. NOT someone with the best marks, or best courses. For sure in 2nd yr and up you find it easier to get coop jobs, thats because you have more coop experience to relate with, and also from the interview experience you have gain, its easier for you to BS thru the interview.

So I think HOW MANY SCHOOL terms you've done doesnt matter. It's how many COOP terms youve done and what you did there that makes a difference.

[konfusion666]

My response was to "Stream 4 having harder time to get their first job" by another member.

I did not say there is no chance of you getting a job, just that it would be harder than stream 8 students since they have twice as much education as stream 4 for their first co-op job. All else equal, you would agree you would hire someone with twice as much university education as the other guy right? 6 month vs 3 month here maybe minimal, but that's still twice as much uni there.

I been through countless interviews during first year, end up getting a job but took way longer than say, 2A and 2B, first interview gets me a job. UW kept statistics and first year have the highest unemployment rate compared to upper years.

actually, stream8 has a higher unemployment rate than stream4.
stream8'ers compete with all the "regular" university students for jobs in that first summer, while stream4'ers are only competing with each other in that first winter.

[keanefan]

Is Waterloo an attractive university (math / physics / computer science buildings).

I saw a picture of their school of architecture in Cambridge, Ontario and it was unattractive

[Vanhwang]

waterloo is UGLY.


I think the only attractive building on campus would be....SLC...and that's not for classes.

[keanefan]

waterloo is UGLY.

Would you recommend Waterloo or do you think that it's too ugly (depressing)?

[civ@uw]

Who would hire someone with 3 month of university education? They aren't much better than a high school student.

Ha, they didn't teach us anything useful in 1B that an employer would even care enough about to distinguish us from 1As.

[konfusion666]

Would you recommend Waterloo or do you think that it's too ugly (depressing)?

well you seem to be a very sensitive person :confused: , so if the "ugliness" of a University will have a major bearing on your life, then i guess you should avoid it?

:confused: X 10!

[aquariaguy]

Is Waterloo an attractive university (math / physics / computer science buildings).

I saw a picture of their school of architecture in Cambridge, Ontario and it was unattractive


The architecture program at UW is REALLY good. Just letting you know.
We're also getting a pharmacy program, and joint-McMaster med. program.

[aquariaguy]

waterloo is UGLY.


I think the only attractive building on campus would be....SLC...and that's not for classes.


Waterloo is a "newer" school. We're also getting a new nanotechnology building, which is gonna be bigger than MC.

EIT building is nice. Coop building is nice. The new attachment to the health studies building is nice. We have a lot of new buildings actually.

[Alvito]

bank transfers are easier. DONE

For who? For you? Sure. For me, check.

[Alvito]

Who would hire someone with 3 month of university education? They aren't much better than a high school student.

what about people who have coop in their first term of university?

[j3fan]

What do you mean?

When I pay, I just go to the bank, tell them I want to pay university of waterloo, give them my student number, and tell them the amount. I don't need any pieces of paper with me. Just the right amount.

How hard is that? Or you can mail a cheque, but bank is the fastest and easiest since I used do it last minute all the time.

why would i want to goto the bank, when I can do it electronically online? The bank close so early and by the time i get home, the banks are closed....

[Alvito]

why would i want to goto the bank, when I can do it electronically online? The bank close so early and by the time i get home, the banks are closed....

uh? Seattle?...

the check is easier.

You are gonna be on campus to buy ur books or go to class anyway, all you have to do is walk 75 feet from SLC and drop in the check.

[j3fan]

6 month is twice as long as 3 month, therefore, (on average) twice as likely as getting hired.

but, you gotta remember you are also competing with other stream 8 students as well as other colleges/universities because they are also on summer break...so there is more competition.

[j3fan]

Honestly, how many jobs are out there for co-op that requires a strong academic base from your courses. Yes, there are design jobs out there, etc that will require you to know a subject well, etc.

But for MOST jobs, all it requires is a little training for several weeks and that student will do a good job. Heck, lots of full time jobs are like that too.

So if you're talking about how hard to get a job based on university EDUCATION (as in academics), then it's not really such an advantage for someone with twice as much ACADEMICS. Again, it's the job that you are applying for.

What I notice more is people will look for a student that will best fit in their team. NOT someone with the best marks, or best courses. For sure in 2nd yr and up you find it easier to get coop jobs, thats because you have more coop experience to relate with, and also from the interview experience you have gain, its easier for you to BS thru the interview.

So I think HOW MANY SCHOOL terms you've done doesnt matter. It's how many COOP terms youve done and what you did there that makes a difference.

yeah, my first ever coop term was doing support and help desk, you don't need any academics for that, high school students can do the same job easily.

[j3fan]

Would you recommend Waterloo or do you think that it's too ugly (depressing)?

whatever you do, stay away from the MC lounge....there is a distinct odour in that area....

[j3fan]

uh? Seattle?...

the check is easier.

You are gonna be on campus to buy ur books or go to class anyway, all you have to do is walk 75 feet from SLC and drop in the check.

but, what if you are not on campus and doing distant ed :confused:

[drucillica]

Would you recommend Waterloo or do you think that it's too ugly (depressing)?

you base your academic future on what the campus looks like?

:confused: X 10000000

[Alvito]

but, what if you are not on campus and doing distant ed :confused:

Why wouldnt you be on residence? You stated one reason, DD courses. That may be the only exception, but for the other 25,000 waterloo students who are on campus daily, it should not be a problem for them.

[B40]

you base your academic future on what the campus looks like?

:confused: X 10000000

I went to Laurier cause there were lots of sexy white guys... guys who look like their out of an Abercrombie catalog :)

[Alvito]

you base your academic future on what the campus looks like?

:confused: X 10000000

a depressing campus will affect your mood. And your mood will affect your study habits etc.

[drucillica]

a depressing campus will affect your mood. And your mood will affect your study habits etc.

It's not what the campus looks like, it's what you make it to be. Please, if you're surrounded by enough "normal" people, it doesnt matter if you're taking classes a shithole or a palace.

[drucillica]

I went to Laurier cause there were lots of sexy white guys... guys who look like their out of an Abercrombie catalog :)

mmm I hear ya. It's for that reason that all waterloo student go party where the laurier guys hang out :P

[konfusion666]

whatever you do, stay away from the MC lounge....there is a distinct odour in that area....

MC lounge r0x0r my s0x0rz! lolz!

I rolled natural 20! Critical hit! My elf does 90870987 damage to your ******** half-orc peasant! I win! die, die die!




*shudder*

[konfusion666]

mmm I hear ya. It's for that reason that all waterloo student go party where the laurier guys hang out :P

admit it, you were one of the MC lounge chicks right? lolz....... :lol:

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i kid, i kid!

[B40]

MC lounge r0x0r my s0x0rz! lolz!

I rolled natural 20! Critical hit! My elf does 90870987 damage to your ******** half-orc peasant! I win! die, die die!




*shudder*
I always went over there to hang out with my D&D friends... we played some mean games of D&D!

[j3fan]

admit it, you were one of the MC lounge chicks right? lolz....... :lol:

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i kid, i kid!

I always see you hanging and sleeping around the MC lounge area...

[drucillica]

admit it, you were one of the MC lounge chicks right? lolz....... :lol:

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i kid, i kid!

hahhahahahah i wish, but they wouldn't let me into their cool club. THey wouldn't even let me use their vending machines. Bastards. Something about me actually bathing.. I dunno.

[Alvito]

It's not what the campus looks like, it's what you make it to be. Please, if you're surrounded by enough "normal" people, it doesnt matter if you're taking classes a shithole or a palace.

if the rooms are dark they will have an impact on your mood.

[lovepizza]

I went to Laurier cause there were lots of sexy white guys... guys who look like their out of an Abercrombie catalog :)

haha. i would have to say there are more abercrombie girls than guys. lol.

[konfusion666]

I always went over there to hang out with my D&D friends... we played some mean games of D&D!

lol those guys are probably MMORPG developers now ;)



hahhahahahah i wish, but they wouldn't let me into their cool club. THey wouldn't even let me use their vending machines. Bastards. Something about me actually bathing.. I dunno.

wow, you actually bathed? who let you into the Math faculty? :lol:

[keanefan]

a depressing campus will affect your mood. And your mood will affect your study habits etc.

which university campuses do you find depressing???

[divx]

actually, stream8 has a higher unemployment rate than stream4.
stream8'ers compete with all the "regular" university students for jobs in that first summer, while stream4'ers are only competing with each other in that first winter.

regular students? you sure? they can get regular jobs but can they really apply for co-op jobs? those jobs are posted on jobmine internal system, they shouldn't have access to it nor can they apply.

[divx]

Would you recommend Waterloo or do you think that it's too ugly (depressing)?
It is ugly, therefore you shouldn't come.

[j3fan]

regular students? you sure? they can get regular jobs but can they really apply for co-op jobs? those jobs are posted on jobmine internal system, they shouldn't have access to it nor can they apply.

They don't care if you apply through jobmine or through other means. They do post their jobs other places and they'll hire the best candidate, not whether you are in the coop program or not.

[aquariaguy]

if the rooms are dark they will have an impact on your mood.

Uh..if they have powerpoint slides sometimes they gotta dim the lights. So darkness at night impacts your mood too?

[Nyte]

All else equal, you would agree you would hire someone with twice as much university education as the other guy right? 6 month vs 3 month here maybe minimal, but that's still twice as much uni there.
No, I wouldn't agree...



I been through countless interviews during first year, end up getting a job but took way longer than say, 2A and 2B, first interview gets me a job. UW kept statistics and first year have the highest unemployment rate compared to upper years


And as I mentioned before, thats from a lack of work experience, not how many months of university you've had.

[Nyte]

Why wouldnt you be on residence? You stated one reason, DD courses. That may be the only exception, but for the other 25,000 waterloo students who are on campus daily, it should not be a problem for them.

Maybe I'm missing part of the conversation here, but most of us are actually on coop away from campus. And they want to be paid before we get back to school.

[Nyte]

hahhahahahah i wish, but they wouldn't let me into their cool club. THey wouldn't even let me use their vending machines. Bastards. Something about me actually bathing.. I dunno.

Are you sure it wasn't because they wouldn't let you back out after you had entered? Attractive girls are hard to come by around there.

[Nyte]

regular students? you sure? they can get regular jobs but can they really apply for co-op jobs? those jobs are posted on jobmine internal system, they shouldn't have access to it nor can they apply.

There's more to the world than just jobmine...

[akwok]

Have any UW CS students been able to get into MIT/Caltech (or any Ivy Leagues) for postgrad? If so, please post your experiences on the application process!

Or if you were at UW for CS undergrad, and you also went to UW for postgrad -- was it difficult to get into? What were your marks?

[drucillica]

Have any UW CS students been able to get into MIT/Caltech (or any Ivy Leagues) for postgrad? If so, please post your experiences on the application process!

Or if you were at UW for CS undergrad, and you also went to UW for postgrad -- was it difficult to get into? What were your marks?

for what it's worth, grad studies in CS are supposedly crap at UW.

[divx]

There's more to the world than just jobmine...
Just in EE alone, there was about 900 job postings. As an EE, I can apply to EE/CE/CS/SE/ME/NE jobs, that's a lot jobs to pick from, all from 1 easy source instead go around online searching (how many company you knew hiring? I bet that # is << jobmine postings) Obvious advantage of jobmine makes job hunting a lot easier.

[divx]

Have any UW CS students been able to get into MIT/Caltech (or any Ivy Leagues) for postgrad? If so, please post your experiences on the application process!

Or if you were at UW for CS undergrad, and you also went to UW for postgrad -- was it difficult to get into? What were your marks?
I heard grad studies require >80% avg, it's not hard if you know what you are doing, if you don't know what you are doing, then you shouldn't be in grad school

[Nyte]

Just in EE alone, there was about 900 job postings. As an EE, I can apply to EE/CE/CS/SE/ME/NE jobs, that's a lot jobs to pick from, all from 1 easy source instead go around online searching (how many company you knew hiring? I bet that # is << jobmine postings) Obvious advantage of jobmine makes job hunting a lot easier.

You're completely missing the point. Sure you have a lot of jobs to choose from in Jobmine. But thats strictly UW. Most of the employers who post to UW will also post to other university's systems, that is why you will get competition from all the "regular" students, as well as students from other coop/internship programs. Just because a job is posted on Jobmine does not make it exclusively available to only UW students.

[Nyte]

I heard grad studies require >80% avg, it's not hard if you know what you are doing, if you don't know what you are doing, then you shouldn't be in grad school

And again, unrelated to what the other person said.

[konfusion666]

I heard grad studies require >80% avg, it's not hard if you know what you are doing, if you don't know what you are doing, then you shouldn't be in grad school

And I continue to wonder how someone who makes the statements that you do, actually managed to get into Waterloo in the first place.

I give up! You're really a Kinesiology student, aren't you? :lol:

[B40]

And I continue to wonder how someone who makes the statements that you do, actually managed to get into Waterloo in the first place.


The original thread has been deleted, but...

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1610133&postcount=31


if you will write the grade 12 Math Competition read me

Please tell me the date you will write it, it should be somewhere from April 9 ~ 18.

If you write before we do here, then please PM me, we will discuess about some stuff.

Thank you for your cooperation.

[divx]

And again, unrelated to what the other person said.
I was replying to the difficulties to get into grad school. Hows that unrelated? Btw, that 80% was quoted from my TA, they are grad students and that's what they said. Almost all my comments here gets shoot down, beh, he can go try it out for himself.

[civ@uw]

This place is damn depressing in the winter...

[jayslay]

This place is damn depressing in the winter...

i konw what you mean man, the weather isnt helping either right now and the ppl are antisocial

[Alvito]

why? because the place is ugly or what???

because you gotta walk miles in the cold, everybody is indoors, the place looks like its on holiday.

i miss the loo!

[civ@uw]

why? because the place is ugly or what???

That's part of it, I mean it's nice in the summer/fall where the trees and greenery are in full bloom and it's all sunny, but when that's all gone in the winter the dullness of the buildings sticks out. But yeah there's much more wrong with this place than the ugly buildings, but I'll save that for another rant.

[Ares7]

Sorry to bring up such an old post but...got a few important questions~_~
(I posted the same questions on the other UW thread but not a lot of people seem to be reading it, so I'll post it here as well)

I'm in comp eng and finished my 1B term this august. My questions are:

1. Well..I'm planning to do MBA after I graduate; but since I need high marks to get in, I kinda want to switch out of engineering...I'm also sort of losing my motivations as the time goes on, losing interests on hardwares and stuffs. I think it's kinda pointless to spend so much effort, since I don't think undergrad studies really matter as soon as I get my MBA degree (right?).
My average wasnt that bad last term (high 70s) but I think it'll be much harder to do better later on. What do you suggest?
(If I switch out, I'm thinking of cfm, cs, actsci or some arts program. Something more flexible and with many overlapping first year courses with ece)

2. Would options really matter for my graduate studies? I mean, would taking an msci option now do any good for getting into a grad school for mba? Some people say it doesn't really matter tho. (that is, if i plan to stay in ece)

3. How's 2A ECE compared to 1B? (I heard 2B's a lot harder, but no info about 2A).

Haha I think I wrote too much.
Well, thanks in advance!

[ji_howa]

2A is not bad compared to first year, my average did drop 3% from first year though.

I switched out of comp eng after 2A and went to actsci... much easier and more flexibility, I like the statistics/economics. If you are gonna switch, 2A is the time to do it, after 2B, you will need to repeat a term. Most of your first year engineering courses are eligible as transfer credits to the faculty of mathematics.

That being said, comp eng is a really great program, my friends are now in grad school (no one in MBA )or working for big companies making plenty of $$$. They say 2B and 3B are not THAT bad, just lots of labs, which are time consuming, but certainly doable.

The engineering degree is valuable even when you get a MBA, as your special background will open up many positions that will allow you to use your engineering principles. At the very least, engineering can get your foot in the door of a good company, and you can work your way up internally. It is much more economical for the company to pay for your MBA =)



Sorry to bring up such an old post but...got a few important questions~_~
(I posted the same questions on the other UW thread but not a lot of people seem to be reading it, so I'll post it here as well)

I'm in comp eng and finished my 1B term this august. My questions are:

1. Well..I'm planning to do MBA after I graduate; but since I need high marks to get in, I kinda want to switch out of engineering...I'm also sort of losing my motivations as the time goes on, losing interests on hardwares and stuffs. I think it's kinda pointless to spend so much effort, since I don't think undergrad studies really matter as soon as I get my MBA degree (right?).
My average wasnt that bad last term (high 70) but I think it'll be much harder to do better later on. What do you suggest?
(If I switch out, I'm thinking of cfm, cs, actsci or some arts program. Something more flexible and with many overlapping first year courses with ece)

2. Would options really matter for my graduate studies? I mean, would taking an msci option now do any good for getting into a grad school for mba? Some people say it doesn't really matter tho. (that is, if i plan to stay in ece)

3. How's 2A ECE compared to 1B? (I heard 2B's a lot harder, but no info about 2A).

Haha I think I wrote too much.
Well, thanks in advance!

[woodstock827]

Engineering degree + MBA = big bucks since there are so few of them... almost anyone can get an MBA nowadays, esp ppl in the financial field, but not so many people do it in engineering. I'm a graduated Mechie at UW... And I'm planning to get my MBA in the future if I can find a company that would sponsor me.

If you really got sick of comp or don't think you can keep up the good marks, switch to something else within engineering. I can tell you Mech is quite relaxing compared to Comp or anything ECE/Sys related. There's may be one assignment, two at max, per term that'd require you to do all-nighters. I've only done probably 2.5 all-nighters over the 4 years. The Profs are more forgiving too (well most are).
The 2B or not to be question... I don't think 2B is especially hard. It's just the busiest term since start of university, and then workload stays pretty much the same.. so if you manage to make it through 2B, you'll probably do fine afterwards..

[Aznsilvrboy]

What are some nice restaurants near the University of Waterloo? Preferably Chinese restaurants, but any nice ones will do.

[alv077]

The new ayce sushi joint is decorated okay'ish for waterloo standards..

... did anyone notice that the geese are especially daring today? =s

[mavericknm]

Hahah the geese are by far the greatest entertainment on campus. Earlier in September I was riding back to my abode in REV and there were geese on the bike path. I decided to see how close I could get to them. I made for one and avoided it just nearly with my foot. The goose made no effort to move. So for the next goose on the path, I stuck my foot out more and I was shocked to find my foot conected with its butt. EWW.

But it gets better.

After a night out at UW plaza, our group of freinds returned to hang out in my room. Ouside of the SLC we met with a flock of geese and began to complain about their presense. I jokingly said to one of my bolder freinds who is a taekwondo fanatic, "why don't you kick one?". Without thinking he punted the nearest goose in the butt. It made the most terrible hollow noise as if a pilates ball was being bounced in a gymnasium followed by a rustling of feathers.

The good news is that the geese actually move now when you approach them. News spreads fast in Waterloo. It really is sad though to see these creatures so domesticated and dependent on our free garbage.

[kashirat]

for what it's worth, grad studies in CS are supposedly crap at UW.

Interesting, why do you say that?

[Mendesb]

theres a thread abt food (chinese) near Uw

Also does anyone drive back and forth from Waterloo to toronto? ( trying to get a ride, dont mind paying for gas and a lil more ) (not sure how much gas is, but not planning on paying more than greyhound)

[alv077]

Just use facebook to find a ride.

Also, I hate the damn geese. damn geese poop...

[BenK]

1. Well..I'm planning to do MBA after I graduate; but since I need high marks to get in, I kinda want to switch out of engineering...I'm also sort of losing my motivations as the time goes on, losing interests on hardwares and stuffs. I think it's kinda pointless to spend so much effort, since I don't think undergrad studies really matter as soon as I get my MBA degree (right?).
My average wasnt that bad last term (high 70s) but I think it'll be much harder to do better later on. What do you suggest?
(If I switch out, I'm thinking of cfm, cs, actsci or some arts program. Something more flexible and with many overlapping first year courses with ece)


You should try CFM if u're into the accounting and CS courses. I'm doing AFM and my specialization in CS (i got into UW the yr b4 CFM was created). If you choose not to get an MBA after you grad, I believe CFM qualify for UW's Masters of Accounting (MAcc) program if you obtain a 75% avg in required courses through 4 years and a 75% in all 400 level AFM courses. The MAcc then excempts you from Entrance exam and provincial studies to get your CA or CMA (still have to do the final exam and get your work hours). CA/techies make big $$ too.

[cadave]

You should try CFM if u're into the accounting and CS courses. I'm doing AFM and my specialization in CS (i got into UW the yr b4 CFM was created). If you choose not to get an MBA after you grad, I believe CFM qualify for UW's Masters of Accounting (MAcc) program if you obtain a 75% avg in required courses through 4 years and a 75% in all 400 level AFM courses. The MAcc then excempts you from Entrance exam and provincial studies to get your CA or CMA (still have to do the final exam and get your work hours). CA/techies make big $$ too.

CFM does not lead to MAcc and does not satisfy the credit hours requirements to get your CA.

[anycee]

The new ayce sushi joint is decorated okay'ish for waterloo standards..

... did anyone notice that the geese are especially daring today? =s

Where is the new sushi place?

[BenK]

CFM does not lead to MAcc and does not satisfy the credit hours requirements to get your CA.

yea, what he said. My bad, i just assumed.

[BrianCheung]

PDEng -_-"

[divx]

PDEng -_-"

is the only reason needed not to go there





btw, can anyone recommended a place for sublet for jan ~ aug 08? I know where to look for listing but I'd like some recommendations as well.

[BenK]

is the only reason needed not to go there





btw, can anyone recommended a place for sublet for jan ~ aug 08? I know where to look for listing but I'd like some recommendations as well.

Cork board @ the SLC

[anycee]

go to your friends first,
online uw sublet board second

[babaji]

anyone got tips on doing those grade 12 math contests organized by waterloo?

like the Open Math Challenge and Euclid Contest

[Error916]

anyone got tips on doing those grade 12 math contests organized by waterloo?

like the Open Math Challenge and Euclid Contest

As obvious as this sounds, preperation. I came from a school without any Euclid preperation classes so the best you can do is work on old contest papers and bring them to your math teacher in after hours to help assist you in those.

[Ares7]

Thanks for your replies to my previous post in regards to trasnferring out of comp eng. I do think cfm is the program for me...or just cs. Do you guys think it's possible at all? (my 1B average was 77% btw) I also heard some people saying that I can't directly switch to co-op (for cs) from engineering...I don't wanna repeat first year too..need to find out what courses are acceptable.

I think I should talk to an advisor or something but uhh..just wanna hear from those in the same boat. or someone who switched from engineering to math in general, thanks again :-0
(also...in this case, should I talk to both the ece and math advisors or just the ece one? and I don't know if I'm still considered 'first year' or not -0- cause there are different advisors for them)

[alv077]

Where is the new sushi place?

Take the 8 bus and you'll eventually get there... walking distance from conestoga.

[Persuade]

The new ayce sushi joint is decorated okay'ish for waterloo standards..

... did anyone notice that the geese are especially daring today? =s

LOL. The other day i saw a flock of geese about to take off while I was walking by and one of them nearly crashed into my head.

That would've been a disaster.

[BrianCheung]

The new AYCE is another Ye's Sushi, but it's a lot nicer than the old location on King.

Yeah the geese are especially daring. I saw a bunch of dead geese on Columbia... teaches them for not looking both ways.

[Xavier]

Anyone here doing a masters degree @ UW ??

Preferrably in ECE / MSCI or ENG in general ?

[alv077]

MAcc in a few years, hopefully =/

[Ares7]

Hey all..so I decided to stay in Comp.Eng instead, cause the chance of me getting into co-op wasnt really high and I also didnt wanna stay here for another year or two.

So..any tips for 2A ece? I'll probably take Msci 311 as my elective.
Calc (math 211) seems to be the hardest of all by the looks of it..

[aquariaguy]

If anyone has pre-opt questions let me know. I'm in the US doing optometry.

[aquariaguy]

When you're paying $25,000 USD/yr in tuition along and you can't get your average below a 70 and can't get below 60 in ANY course, you'll be able to stay awake.

[ElvaSoShexai]

Does anyone here live in an apartment that is managed by transglobe??? bcuz i notcie they manage a lot of apartments in the waterloo area... n they just started managing our apartment a while ago... are they doing a craptastic job @ running ur place too?

[msgracie]

If anyone has pre-opt questions let me know. I'm in the US doing optometry.

which school are you at?
i plan on applying next year :)

[silverferrari]

OMG ELPE TODAY!!! I don't think i'm going to pass. :(

[cadave]

OMG ELPE TODAY!!! I don't think i'm going to pass. :(

nice first post. welcome to RFD.

Don't worry too much about the ELPE. It's pretty easy if you can compose sentences and paragraphs properly.

[alv077]

nice first post. welcome to RFD.

Don't worry too much about the ELPE. It's pretty easy if you can compose sentences and paragraphs properly.

... and there goes a quarter of UW's math faculty x.x

yay for artsies =D

[babaji]

Is there any place on the UWaterloo campus that has a TV that airs Raptors games? I'd like to know, because I'm going there next year and I don't want to need to stream games online. Oh, and what kind of entertainment and recreation can I expect to find at UWaterloo? I like basketball and video games.

[alv077]

Is there any place on the UWaterloo campus that has a TV that airs Raptors games? I'd like to know, because I'm going there next year and I don't want to need to stream games online. Oh, and what kind of entertainment and recreation can I expect to find at UWaterloo? I like basketball and video games.

basketball outside v1; theres a weekly video games club or just bring your own console and hook it up to the lounge tvs at night

also, public tvs in v1 and mkv.

[babaji]

basketball outside v1; theres a weekly video games club or just bring your own console and hook it up to the lounge tvs at night

also, public tvs in v1 and mkv.

Are there any indoor basketball courts that are open regularly? Also, the TVs have cable right?

thanks

[ryan123]

pac and cif are open until 1130pm monday-friday. I think 830pm Saturday-Sunday.

[alv077]

Are there any indoor basketball courts that are open regularly? Also, the TVs have cable right?

thanks

read above post for basketball - cif gym is nice if you're doing cardio with a girl :)

of course tvs have cable :P

[BrianCheung]

cif gym is nice if you're doing cardio with a girl :)

As is your room in res :P

[babaji]

pac and cif are open until 1130pm monday-friday. I think 830pm Saturday-Sunday.

lol people, care to explain what pac and cif is? Keep in mind I've never been to Waterloo.

[phyrefly]

^The two gyms on campus.

[alv077]

As is your room in res :P

Hey! It's Brian!

We went for shrimp.. right?


^The two gyms on campus.

What about REV? :o

[Atheral]

Is there any place on the UWaterloo campus that has a TV that airs Raptors games? I'd like to know, because I'm going there next year and I don't want to need to stream games online. Oh, and what kind of entertainment and recreation can I expect to find at UWaterloo? I like basketball and video games.

You can also go to McGinnis Frontrow (bar and restaurant). They have TVs everywhere. Great place to go and eat/drink and watch the game. You will find UW has a lot of Raptors fans and people who play basketball. :)

[phyrefly]

What about REV? :o

REV is more like a prison...

[board123]

Yeah...Waterloo.........

[BrianCheung]

REV is more like a prison...

THANK YOU!

Someone that agrees with me. Every single time I walk up one of those concrete stairwells, it reminds me of a prison.

[Aznsilvrboy]

My friend isn't feeling well, and called her parents to come pick her up tonight (December 13th). She has an exam at 12:30pm on Saturday (December 15th), so she needs to get back in the morning. Problems:

- Her parents has to do something on Saturday so they can't drive her back
- Earliest Greyhound leaves at 12:30pm on Saturday
- Earliest Via Rail service to Kitchener is almost in the evening
- She doesn't want to carpool

So...is there any way for her to get back to school on Saturday before her exam starts?

[board123]

I don't understand. She's feeling "bad" enough to make her parents take her home, but it's not serious enough for her to write an exam barely 2 days later? Wha-??

[board123]

So who passed PDEng this term?

I did.

[BrianCheung]

So who passed PDEng this term?

I did.

Yea Yea!

[babaji]

I hear all the gyms are closed during exam time at Waterloo. This is ridiculous! How am I supposed to play basketball when the gyms are closed?

[divx]

I hear all the gyms are closed during exam time at Waterloo. This is ridiculous! How am I supposed to play basketball when the gyms are closed?

Why is that a problem when you are at downtown toronto?

[mgronqui]

Coming back in the Winter term for a 200 level arts course.

[mgronqui]

Why is that a problem when you are at downtown toronto?

Probably because the gyms in UW are free.

[babaji]

Why is that a problem when you are at downtown toronto?
We are at downtown toronto during exam time?


Probably because the gyms in UW are free.
Free! :)

Are the basketball gyms usually filled with people all day? I have a feeling I'm going to be visiting the basketball facilities A LOT at UWaterloo.

[alv077]

Free? No they're not :(

[divx]

Free? No they're not :(

With strings attached, yes, and many of them.

[babaji]

huh? strings?

[Adage]

They gyms are free... Only the PAC is closed during exam week. CIF is still open. And all the weight rooms are still open I believe.

[alv077]

I didn't mean "not free" as in "costs money"... it's just a pain to wait for the equipment to free up here =(

[board123]

There are always Chinese people playing badminton at CIF. They take up half of the little gym and most of the big gyms.

[babaji]

badminton =/
I must be the only Chinese guy who can't play badminton.
I hope there's room in those gyms for ballers.

[phyrefly]

I thought you had to reserve the gym courts in advance? CIF at least :confused:

[ian1386]

4/5 exams done. Now I have to waste 3 days waiting for my bird exam in the last exam time slot. :(

[Alvito]

There are always Chinese people playing badminton at CIF. They take up half of the little gym and most of the big gyms.


badminton =/
I must be the only Chinese guy who can't play badminton.
I hope there's room in those gyms for ballers.

lol funny story, we played some kids in ball in the gym once, full court, the badminton kids were waiting to play. as they were watching the last few minutes, i put the ball through some guys legs, ran around him for a fast break, all the fobby girls were jumping up and down all excited... good times good times.

[seekay]

lol funny story, we played some kids in ball in the gym once, full court, the badminton kids were waiting to play. as they were watching the last few minutes, i put the ball through some guys legs, ran around him for a fast break, all the fobby girls were jumping up and down all excited... good times good times.

you missed the layup didnt you?

after exams is the best time to play...EVERYBODY comes out to get rid of stress. the best was after physics111 (i think), the players that were around made it fun just to watch.

there's lots of badminton players early saturday/sunday mornings at CIF, most of them arent members at the gym, so funny to see people leave when the staff asks to see their card because they dont want to pay the 5 bucks to play.

[babaji]

wait... you need to be a member to use the facilities? That comes with being a student at UW right?

[mgronqui]

wait... you need to be a member to use the facilities? That comes with being a student at UW right?

If you go to Columbia Icefield they won't ask you for ID. You can just go right in. In PAC, they will question you if you don't look like a student. You'll only ever need to show membership in PAC if you go through the changerooms as you have to swipe to get in or if some staff member spots you in the gym.

[mgronqui]

Free? No they're not :(

They're free if you're a full time student. They're also free if you're smart about it.:)

[board123]

badminton =/
I must be the only Chinese guy who can't play badminton.
I hope there's room in those gyms for ballers.
I can, but I haven't played since high school.

[seekay]

If you go to Columbia Icefield they won't ask you for ID. You can just go right in. In PAC, they will question you if you don't look like a student. You'll only ever need to show membership in PAC if you go through the changerooms as you have to swipe to get in or if some staff member spots you in the gym.

i've been checked multiple times at CIF for my watcard, so rule of thumb is to always bring it. they dont check when it's extremely empty or packed though...theyve just been random spotchecks, or on saturday/sunday mornings with all the "members" of the badminton club or wtever :cheesygri


They're free if you're a full time student. They're also free if you're smart about it.:)

it's included in you tuition afaik, and it's pretty much mandatory..so yes "free" lol..

[anuj912]

Im planning to either go for the waterloo AFM, or Waterloo Math/CA program

On their website for AFM, it says the cutoff is low-mid 80's, but i have heard otherwise...i've heard from other people that its generally around a high 80-low 90%, is this true?
I know for AFM, i need to get an invite to the AFMAA, but the thing is, since i dont have a 12u english this sem, they look at my 11U english, and my grade 11 english is a 72%, they need a 75%:(. however, theres a reason for that, i started the school year off late in grade 11 (about 3 weeks) and i missed out on 2 assignments and screwed up my first english test pretty horribly. I wrote that on their AIF, and still wondering if they can consider me for the AFMAA. my current grade 12 marks are as follows:

MHF4U: 87
SPH: 84
SCH: 84
BAT4M: 91
MCB4U: 70...(really bad, took it in grade 11)
MCV: next sem
ENG: next sem

How hard is it to get into either of those two programs? i was an idiot and took calc last year, and didnt end up with the mark i wanted, same reason as grade 11 english.

Not sure if some of my questions are vague, but thanks in advance :D

[board123]

You're definitely not getting into Math/CA, that's for sure.

[djnorm112]

Math/CA is brutal. More stress for the same thing which is a CA and presumably a job at a big 4.

If you have the option between that and AFM/Arts take that.

Your math skills may come to play after you get your CA and out of public accounting and go on to a job that require serious math skills but so far i haven't heard anybody really utilizing anything they learn from their math courses in real life.....

[LegiT]

I got early acceptance back in mid-December to Biomed @ Waterloo. Now I've just received an email telling me to fill out the AIF in order for them to know me better as it is factored into the admission offers.
Although I've got no intent to go to Waterloo, is it necessary to fill out the AIF even after I've received early acceptance?

[VorteC]

Just applied to Mech. Engineering and Environmental Business @ loo. Looking forward!

[alv077]

Math/CA is brutal. More stress for the same thing which is a CA and presumably a job at a big 4.

If you have the option between that and AFM/Arts take that.

Your math skills may come to play after you get your CA and out of public accounting and go on to a job that require serious math skills but so far i haven't heard anybody really utilizing anything they learn from their math courses in real life.....

I hate derivatives. HateHateHate.

Seriously though, he's right. AFM is more interesting anyways, we get to pursue our own interests instead of killing ourselves learning arguably useless math theory.


Im planning to either go for the waterloo AFM, or Waterloo Math/CA program

On their website for AFM, it says the cutoff is low-mid 80's, but i have heard otherwise...i've heard from other people that its generally around a high 80-low 90%, is this true?
I know for AFM, i need to get an invite to the AFMAA, but the thing is, since i dont have a 12u english this sem, they look at my 11U english, and my grade 11 english is a 72%, they need a 75%:(. however, theres a reason for that, i started the school year off late in grade 11 (about 3 weeks) and i missed out on 2 assignments and screwed up my first english test pretty horribly. I wrote that on their AIF, and still wondering if they can consider me for the AFMAA. my current grade 12 marks are as follows:

MHF4U: 87
SPH: 84
SCH: 84
BAT4M: 91
MCB4U: 70...(really bad, took it in grade 11)
MCV: next sem
ENG: next sem

How hard is it to get into either of those two programs? i was an idiot and took calc last year, and didnt end up with the mark i wanted, same reason as grade 11 english.

Not sure if some of my questions are vague, but thanks in advance :D

Like someone else said, there's no chance in hell that you'll get in Math/CA... they look at calc pretty heavily. The thing with AFM is that I know lots of really book smart people that didn't get into AFM. I swear, I know someone that literally wrote something along the lines of, "If others disagree with their opinion, I would tell them to shut up and listen to me because I'm better than them"

Just be smart about the AFMAA =/ You SHOULD get an invite though

[blizzah]

I got early acceptance back in mid-December to Biomed @ Waterloo. Now I've just received an email telling me to fill out the AIF in order for them to know me better as it is factored into the admission offers.
Although I've got no intent to go to Waterloo, is it necessary to fill out the AIF even after I've received early acceptance?

They gave out early-acceptences ALREADY?

[anycee]

double degree math/business ftw
+1
DD, CS and Actsci are the baller programs at Waterloo.
(here CS means CS, software eng, and comp eng)

[Jeff18]

double degree math/business ftw

ive been told that double degree programs are kinda hard, whats the cut off average for it?

and its BA at wlu and math at uw?

is this the same thing as WLU's double degree program which is also BA at WLU and math at UW?

[rayner55]

+1
DD, CS and Actsci are the baller programs at Waterloo.
(here CS means CS, software eng, and comp eng)

it aint baller when its a sausage fest

[andrew2good4u]

it aint baller when its a sausage fest

It's sad if you only depend on your classes to meet girls.
There IS a world outside of school and off campus.

[divx]

It's sad if you only depend on your classes to meet girls.
There IS a world outside of school and off campus.

Thanks for stating the obvious, but distance does matter, it is much easier to get to know people who you meet everyday than some club somewhere.

[manho]

ive been told that double degree programs are kinda hard, whats the cut off average for it?

and its BA at wlu and math at uw?

is this the same thing as WLU's double degree program which is also BA at WLU and math at UW?

DD is BBA@WLU + Math@UW

WLU's DD program is same as UW's, academically. (you'll have both school's student ID). However, co-op program is different. WLU's DD program go through WLU's co-op system, and UW go throught UW's.

However, I have heard rumours that, it is slightly easier to be accepted when applying through WLU, since there is a lower entrance spot-application ratio.

[manho]

Just applied to Mech. Engineering and Environmental Business @ loo. Looking forward!

Env Bus is a tough program, IMO. Requires a 75% cummulative average to stay in.

[thefleet]

DD is BBA@WLU + Math@UW

WLU's DD program is same as UW's, academically. (you'll have both school's student ID). However, co-op program is different. WLU's DD program go through WLU's co-op system, and UW go throught UW's.

However, I have heard rumours that, it is slightly easier to be accepted when applying through WLU, since there is a lower entrance spot-application ratio.

There should be an equal number of DDs on both sides. However, if you want to have more business related coop jobs, you should apply through the WLU side, and if you want more cs/tech coop jobs, apply through the UW side. Having said that, there are "bigger" coop jobs on waterloo side (more international experiences)

[thefleet]

ive been told that double degree programs are kinda hard, whats the cut off average for it?

and its BA at wlu and math at uw?

is this the same thing as WLU's double degree program which is also BA at WLU and math at UW?

low 90s will probably get you in for sure, high 80s will probably get you in as well, mid 80s you will be kind of cutting it

however they are letting A LOT more people in then before so i'm sure your chances of getting in are much easier

[rayner55]

It's sad if you only depend on your classes to meet girls.
There IS a world outside of school and off campus.

For the record i never stated i was in those programs. And its true it is a sausage fest in those programs, even UW is actually taking initiatives to attract more females into those programs.

[thefleet]

DD and actsci are actually about 50/50 gender ratio, for my year anyways (i'm in both :D)

but i'm not surprised with CS programs tho

[silverferrari]

Hey everyone, I'm really excited that you guys are considering the double degree program. I'm currently in first year and UW based. This year, I think they over-accepted people, but there was 60 students from UW and another 60 from WLU. I'd say if u have a 92% u'd be safe for UW DD, but you'll have a chance with anything over 90. And for laurier, around 87% cut-off would be my guess. If you guys have any more questions, I'll try my best to respond.

[syn3sto]

Hey everyone, I'm really excited that you guys are considering the double degree program. I'm currently in first year and UW based. This year, I think they over-accepted people, but there was 60 students from UW and another 60 from WLU. I'd say if u have a 92% u'd be safe for UW DD, but you'll have a chance with anything over 90. And for laurier, around 87% cut-off would be my guess. If you guys have any more questions, I'll try my best to respond.

1. whats the drop off rate like there?
2. how were your math contests results like in high school? (should i include top25% finishes in the aif? or would this average result have rather negative effect?)

thanks

[andrew2good4u]

For the record i never stated i was in those programs. And its true it is a sausage fest in those programs, even UW is actually taking initiatives to attract more females into those programs.

Oh sorry that wasn't directed to you.
It was just a general comment.
It's just tiring hearing people restate the obvious over and over again you know. Instead of complaining people could be using their energy to finding solutions or other ways around the problem.

You don't need to be in the same program or even class to get to know a girl.
I guess the real problem is that the "sterotypical" engineers or CS guys don't have game.. lol

Either way, I hope nobody took offense to my earlier post (or even this one)

p.s. I am in CS, but im definately not your "stereotypical" CS student

[silverferrari]

1. whats the drop off rate like there?
2. how were your math contests results like in high school? (should i include top25% finishes in the aif? or would this average result have rather negative effect?)

thanks

1. Personally, I've only heard of one person who dropped out after first term, but I've also heard rumours that there are more. A safe guess would be around 5, so that's under 4%.. which i think is pretty good for such a small program. According to our directors though, people drop out of DD not because they failed a course and couldn't continue, it's usually they realized that they're either more interested in the math-fields or business areas.

2. For my AIF, I actually listed every certificate I got from the math contests sponsored by UW (the top 25% as well). Euclid wise, I got a bit over 70, but that only factors into the scholarship decisions. and no, being top 25% in the country is definitely gonna boost your chances, it might even show your interest in math with all those contests you wrote.

hope that helps.

[thefleet]

those math contests will only help you if you did well

i got crap on both my euclid attempts (gr11/12) which probably wasn't even factored in, and still got the standard crappy $4k Ren� Descartes scholarship

[syn3sto]

1. Personally, I've only heard of one person who dropped out after first term, but I've also heard rumours that there are more. A safe guess would be around 5, so that's under 4%.. which i think is pretty good for such a small program. According to our directors though, people drop out of DD not because they failed a course and couldn't continue, it's usually they realized that they're either more interested in the math-fields or business areas.

2. For my AIF, I actually listed every certificate I got from the math contests sponsored by UW (the top 25% as well). Euclid wise, I got a bit over 70, but that only factors into the scholarship decisions. and no, being top 25% in the country is definitely gonna boost your chances, it might even show your interest in math with all those contests you wrote.

hope that helps.

first, thx for the reply :)
and do you mind me asking how much scholarship you received for getting over 70 in euclid?

[silverferrari]

first, thx for the reply :)
and do you mind me asking how much scholarship you received for getting over 70 in euclid?

i only got the 2000 descartes scholarship, but if ur marks are high enough, u can apply to the many national scholarships waterloo has

[anycee]

anyone here know about anyone in Uw math getting a 4.0 gpa or anything close to it? (i.e 3.8+) specificaly in math business double degree.
I'm getting a 4.0 in DD.


if so, how common is it (specify a ratio please)
I know nothing about 4 point gpas, but i think 5-10% of the program is in the 4.0 range (having mostly A+s). Getting an A+ in any of the math based business courses is very easy, getting 90+ in Waterloo courses is harder, and getting A+ in some of the artsie business courses is harder still.

do you guys think it would be easier then a traditional business program or harder (in terms of effort:gpa ratio)
Far harder. Far, far harder.


and do you mind me asking how much scholarship you received for getting over 70 in euclid?
FWIW, I had >80 and got 7k or 8k in total from UW. YMMV

[syn3sto]

thanks for the replies guys.

ive been practicing by taking the past Euclid contests, and the marks are all between 70-80. going to have to work more on it.

question: what kind of co-op jobs can you expect from the dd program? from what companies/firms?

thanks again

[babaji]

getting an 80+ gets you 7-8k, eh? interesting.

[syn3sto]

getting an 80+ gets you 7-8k, eh? interesting.

i'd guess including the entrance scholarship

[havoks]

As far as I know, for the DD class of '11, there are like half the students now than there were during their first term (they're on co-op now, just finished 2A).

[TurboCC]

Hey guys quick question, how is that new Math - Financial Analysis and Risk Management program looking? And since it's new, does anyone have a clue of the anticipated admission average?

[just_For_ipod]

What stream is a co-op computer science student?

[civ@uw]

What stream is a co-op computer science student?

You could end up being either 4 or 8, though they put slightly more people in stream 4.

[just_For_ipod]

You could end up being either 4 or 8, though they put slightly more people in stream 4.


If I want request my friend to be my roommate for residence, how will that work?
He is in Computer Science Co-op, while I am in Computer Engineering(which is Stream-4)

Will they see the choice for our residence and put us in the same stream? Or does the stream get randomly picked first, then the residence is chosen?

[civ@uw]

If I want request my friend to be my roommate for residence, how will that work?
He is in Computer Science Co-op, while I am in Computer Engineering(which is Stream-4)

Will they see the choice for our residence and put us in the same stream? Or does the stream get randomly picked first, then the residence is chosen?

As far as I know, streaming and residences aren't co-ordinated together. You could be in different streams but still end up being roommates (for your first semester anyways). If you do end up being off-stream you can request to be put in the other stream, but there's no guarantee that will go through.

[just_For_ipod]

As far as I know, streaming and residences aren't co-ordinated together. You could be in different streams but still end up being roommates (for your first semester anyways). If you do end up being off-stream you can request to be put in the other stream, but there's no guarantee that will go through.

Won't that be too late since the residence forms are to be in by June or something?

[alv077]

Haha suckers :)

I already got my res application approved for Fall 08 :D Single room too, yay.

[just_For_ipod]

Haha suckers :)

I already got my res application approved for Fall 08 :D Single room too, yay.

Are you first year? If so, what program did you get in and what was your admissions average?

[alv077]

Are you first year? If so, what program did you get in and what was your admissions average?

Entering 2nd :)

I'm in AFM though, they have some reserved res spots for us :D

[havoks]

Haha suckers :)

I already got my res application approved for Fall 08 :D Single room too, yay.

kinda rare for an upper-year to not get a single room

[thefleet]

If I want request my friend to be my roommate for residence, how will that work?
He is in Computer Science Co-op, while I am in Computer Engineering(which is Stream-4)

Will they see the choice for our residence and put us in the same stream? Or does the stream get randomly picked first, then the residence is chosen?

You will have to be in the same stream if you want to live w/ your friend.

[andrew2good4u]

Entering 2nd :)

I'm in AFM though, they have some reserved res spots for us :D

UWP eh?

If so, you might as well live of campus.


Won't that be too late since the residence forms are to be in by June or something?

I dont think it would be too hard to switch into stream 4. Most people prefer stream 8.

[babaji]

UWP eh?
If so, you might as well live of campus.


Say word. I've heard UWP is better than V1 or REV at least. (with MKV being the best)

[andrew2good4u]

Say word. I've heard UWP is better than V1 or REV at least. (with MKV being the best)

well to each his own I guess. Right now is primetime for finding a place to live in september. There are alot of hidden gems in the region, just gotta find them.

It's also more expensive than just renting a place and you are NOWHERE near any grocery stores. Which means you'll be blowing money at University plaza alot.

The room I have in my house up here is like between 3 and four times bigger than my V1 room. Also, v1 rooms are bigger than UWP rooms slightly.

Personally, I like having room to shake my nuts lol.

Oh yea, and in my opinion, V1 was great. Always full of so many people so you're always interacting. MKV was kind of isolated and Rev was pretty much on our level too. But that was my own experience (last year).

[alv077]

UWP eh?
If so, you might as well live of campus.


Why's that? UWP isn't THAT far from campus... and I'd be living in the courts and the majority of my classes would be at the new accounting building near HH or ML/AL anyways...


Say word. I've heard UWP is better than V1 or REV at least. (with MKV being the best)

Nope. From what I see, its easier to meet people at v1... and its closer to the other res's - makes wobbling home drunk lots easier :D


well to each his own I guess. Right now is primetime for finding a place to live in september. There are alot of hidden gems in the region, just gotta find them.

It's also more expensive than just renting a place and you are NOWHERE near any grocery stores. Which means you'll be blowing money at University plaza alot.

The room I have in my house up here is like between 3 and four times bigger than my V1 room. Also, v1 rooms are bigger than UWP rooms slightly.

Personally, I like having room to shake my nuts lol.

Oh yea, and in my opinion, V1 was great. Always full of so many people so you're always interacting. MKV was kind of isolated and Rev was pretty much on our level too. But that was my own experience (last year).

ooh, right.. grocery shopping...

that's going to suck next year =( ... at least theres the free uwp shuttle, right?

[thefleet]

yes theres a free uwp shuttle

[babaji]

well to each his own I guess. Right now is primetime for finding a place to live in september. There are alot of hidden gems in the region, just gotta find them.

It's also more expensive than just renting a place and you are NOWHERE near any grocery stores. Which means you'll be blowing money at University plaza alot.

The room I have in my house up here is like between 3 and four times bigger than my V1 room. Also, v1 rooms are bigger than UWP rooms slightly.

Personally, I like having room to shake my nuts lol.

Oh yea, and in my opinion, V1 was great. Always full of so many people so you're always interacting. MKV was kind of isolated and Rev was pretty much on our level too. But that was my own experience (last year).

I see.
What about V1's noise level? I hear it can be pretty distracting. Also, there ain't no kitchen in V1! How are we supposed to cook?

[andrew2good4u]

Why's that? UWP isn't THAT far from campus... and I'd be living in the courts and the majority of my classes would be at the new accounting building near HH or ML/AL anyways...



Sorry, I didn't mean it in that context. I meant overall, taking everything into consideration. To be more specific, price and room size



I see.
What about V1's noise level? I hear it can be pretty distracting. Also, there ain't no kitchen in V1! How are we supposed to cook?

Yah V1 can get noisy sometimes but once its exam time, it becomes absolutely silent. And it also depends on your building to. Some people are put in dead buildings with quiet people while others get absolute party animals. Anyway, you can always talk to your don about the noise level if it is stopping you from doing your work.

As for cooking, each building (from what I know.. mine did and the ones i've been to did) has a kitchen in the lounge. I won't mislead you though, if you cook a lot, it might get annoying having the whole world watch you cook and make their stupid comments. Also, the fire alarms in V1 are not smoke detectors, they're HEAT detectors so its not too hard to set the alarm off while cooking. I did it TWICE last year ahahha.

[alv077]

I see.
What about V1's noise level? I hear it can be pretty distracting. Also, there ain't no kitchen in V1! How are we supposed to cook?

The walls are paper thin :o

.... sucks to be the people living next to me ;) ... but really, i think they're not happy :(




Sorry, I didn't mean it in that context. I meant overall, taking everything into consideration. To be more specific, price and room size




Yah V1 can get noisy sometimes but once its exam time, it becomes absolutely silent. And it also depends on your building to. Some people are put in dead buildings with quiet people while others get absolute party animals. Anyway, you can always talk to your don about the noise level if it is stopping you from doing your work.

As for cooking, each building (from what I know.. mine did and the ones i've been to did) has a kitchen in the lounge. I won't mislead you though, if you cook a lot, it might get annoying having the whole world watch you cook and make their stupid comments. Also, the fire alarms in V1 are not smoke detectors, they're HEAT detectors so its not too hard to set the alarm off while cooking. I did it TWICE last year ahahha.

If your building doesnt have a kitchen, they just give you keys to go somewhere that goes. :evil: blah to the south 5'ers.

[wesleyw]

Why's that? UWP isn't THAT far from campus... and I'd be living in the courts and the majority of my classes would be at the new accounting building near HH or ML/AL anyways...


I thought that building won't be done for a couple more years?

[cadave]

I thought that building won't be done for a couple more years?

Slated for completion June 2008 apparently.

Yeah... June 2008. Even though they are still working on Floor 2 of 3 and there's no roof yet. But June 2008. :)

[alv077]

I sneak there at night and work on it secretly.

I want a building :(

[JAGpilot]

This question is directed at people who went or are going to Waterloo in the last few years. How is the out of class life there? I know 2 people who are there now and they're both non-party people and the overall impression I get is it's a pretty nerdy place with a high population of fobby azn math students. For me, as a city boy living and going to school in Barrie the people up here are definitely different than what I am used to. Everyone here smokes, drinks and there are tons of *******s. LOL

[thefleet]

hmmm I'm kind of biased since i'm half-laurier (did someone say kegger? :cheesygri) but theres always party time at any school. Sure some faculties are more "chilled" than others but it all entirely depends on what YOU want to do. If your that desperate to party, you can always chill at laurier :D

[just_For_ipod]

For me, as a city boy living and going to school in Barrie the people up here are definitely different than what I am used to. Everyone here smokes, drinks and there are tons of *******s. LOL

Interesting, I just heard something like this from my teachers. They apparently used to live in Barrie and they both knew what 420 was, but when she asked our whole class, everyone was clueless.

Huh? 420?
lol
Well, I guess now we know what it is, but she said back in Barrie, 420 is common knowledge.


Back to the Waterloo Thread....

Which of the Suite residences us the best? MKV? UW Place?

[alv077]

This question is directed at people who went or are going to Waterloo in the last few years. How is the out of class life there? I know 2 people who are there now and they're both non-party people and the overall impression I get is it's a pretty nerdy place with a high population of fobby azn math students. For me, as a city boy living and going to school in Barrie the people up here are definitely different than what I am used to. Everyone here smokes, drinks and there are tons of *******s. LOL

nah, its not like that.

but depends on who you know.

[anycee]

Interesting, I just heard something like this from my teachers. They apparently used to live in Barrie and they both knew what 420 was, but when she asked our whole class, everyone was clueless.

Huh? 420?
lol
Well, I guess now we know what it is, but she said back in Barrie, 420 is common knowledge.


Back to the Waterloo Thread....

Which of the Suite residences us the best? MKV? UW Place?
If you are in eng and not going over the summer it MKV is slightly nicer but farther and probably not worth the extra cash and extra walk. If you are there over the summer, definately go to MKV, UWP and the others are saunas.

[just_For_ipod]

If you are a first year student you are guaranteed residence, but what if you are in Stream 4 Comp Eng.? Does it mean you are guaranteed residence for only the first term, and then you are screwed and on you're own, or are you guaranteed for the 1st term and 3rd term(1st year).
Also, is it hard to find other off-campus residence if we can't get into the Waterloo residences say in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th year?

[havoks]

you are guaranteed residence for your first and second term

[Tsidneku]

If you are a first year student you are guaranteed residence, but what if you are in Stream 4 Comp Eng.? Does it mean you are guaranteed residence for only the first term, and then you are screwed and on you're own, or are you guaranteed for the 1st term and 3rd term(1st year).
Also, is it hard to find other off-campus residence if we can't get into the Waterloo residences say in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th year?

Waterloo classifies academic terms in the following fashion: 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b, etc. Regardless of your stream (whether you have co-op in the winter term of your first year or not), if you applied for on-campus residency when you get accepted, you will be guaranteed residency for 1a/1b. I think you sign a contract, actually. I forget though.

Off campus housing is not hard to find. There are several agencies that lease entire suites or houses. There are also sublet boards on the internet, just google around or look around uwaterloo site.

[thefleet]

If you live in residence in September, you will be required to sign for two terms, either starting September/Jan or September/May

[babaji]

So what's the best on-campus residence?
At first I thought it was either MKV or UWP hands down, but andrew2good4u and others enlightened me to the good aspects of V1. REV, I hear, is like a prison, so I'm assuming it's the worst? Unless people find a prison-like environment good.

[phyrefly]

Why don't you go there and have a look before you decide?

MKV is definitely the nicest residence by far.

[thefleet]

So what's the best on-campus residence?
At first I thought it was either MKV or UWP hands down, but andrew2good4u and others enlightened me to the good aspects of V1. REV, I hear, is like a prison, so I'm assuming it's the worst? Unless people find a prison-like environment good.

lol yes a prison-like environment is good :twisted:

anyways due to residence being extremely full, they are actually stuffing 3 people in a rez room at REV..

[Adage]

lol yes a prison-like environment is good :twisted:

anyways due to residence being extremely full, they are actually stuffing 3 people in a rez room at REV..


Actually, REV is alot more open because of double/triple rooms. V1 I find is the real dungeon. Stretch your arms out in the hallways and you can touch both sides of the walls lol.

[alv077]

v1 needs better lighting

[VorteC]

yay.. i got early acceptance into "environment and business" program a few days ago.. now i'm just waiting on my acceptance for mech. engineering!

[babaji]

yay.. i got early acceptance into "environment and business" program a few days ago.. now i'm just waiting on my acceptance for mech. engineering!

Wow, accepted already. Congrats!

Anyone know stuff about Software Engineering? I think I'll be taking this. <.<

[alv077]

Wow, accepted already. Congrats!

Anyone know stuff about Software Engineering? I think I'll be taking this. <.<

You will have to take calculus and algebra and it will rape you. Your CS class won't be that bad, but it'll be more work on top of the math.

[babaji]

You will have to take calculus and algebra and it will rape you. Your CS class won't be that bad, but it'll be more work on top of the math.

I'm pretty sure you need calculus + algebra for anything math/engineering related. But in terms of workload, how is it like? According to the website:

There are 30 hours a week of lectures, labs, and tutorials, and it is expected that there will be another 30 hours needed for homework.
That's not leaving me a lot of time for other things. Are these figures exaggerated?

[uzair88]

I'm a waterloo 2B student in Nanotech. Eng. and no, those numbers are correct.....Homework numbers are up to you....sum ppl can understand and pick up things very quickly...other can't.....Homework hours can vary from 10-60 hours a week (depends on the student) but class+labs+tutorials usually ranges in engineering from 25-35 hours per week. Hope that answers your question!

[Adage]

Well even though we have 30 hours of class scheduled every week. People usually cut it down by skipping tutorials or various lectures with terrible profs. So whereas engineers cut down to say 20-25 hours a week, it still can't be compared to science or arts where they start at 20 or less and cut down on classtime even further.

[babaji]

...Hope that answers your question!
It does indeed answer my question. I thank you.


So whereas engineers cut down to say 20-25 hours a week, it still can't be compared to science or arts where they start at 20 or less and cut down on classtime even further.

Ah, interesting. What would be an engineer's class time be like compared to a Math/CompSci student's class time? And how about software engineers compared to other engineers? I'm curious. :)

[alv077]

Cut your tut/lec time and you just wind up doubling your assignment time. 30 hours is no exaggerating between calc/algebra/cs unless you are top of your class (math/ca kiddies).

also. snow day. woohoo.

[thefleet]

upper-year Math students usually have around 15

3 hours per week for course
5 courses (or 6)
--
15 hours a week

first year you can expect a tutorial for each of your classes (+1hr/week for each class)

[akwok]

When you hit 3rd/4th year CS, you'll be spending at least 10-20 hours per week per assignment per course. For example, CS466 requires you to stare at 3 questions on 1 sheet of paper for a week, and even after that, you won't be sure if you'll be able to answer the questions either!

For CS488 (CG), I pretty much lived in the labs for the last one or two weeks.

First year courseload was a joke. MATH135/136/137/138 and CS133/134 really doesn't take up that much time, and the assignments were giveaways. But each year does get significantly more difficult -- of the 7 people or so I knew who were in first year CS, only 1 is still in CS (my housemate). Most switched to Arts.

Chances are if you can't handle first year CS (and Alg, Calc), you might want to look at other options. Although I hear they changed the first year CS courses now to CS135/136, which is a bit more difficult (I don't know why they're using Scheme as an introductory language..)

[babaji]

ok, the last two posts tell me completely opposite things.. who do i believe???

[Adage]

I think soft eng. has the same hours of class per week as other engineers.

[Jon Lai]

Applied to Computer Engineering and Math/CA here, any words of wisdom from anyone? Of course, both being hot courses, I know they won't start accepting people until May (sucks, means more time to worry for me) but hopefully they'll take me for either course.

I have a 91 average in first semester which has Ad. Functions and Chemistry, hopefully English won't pull me down a lot next semester.

[anycee]

When you hit 3rd/4th year CS, you'll be spending at least 10-20 hours per week per assignment per course.
Half that. If you spend 75 hours a week on assignments you are not meant to be in CS and/or getting a high average.

[babaji]

cool, software engineering it is!

Someone tell me about the meal plans. I'm what you'd call a gourmand, so I'd be needing lots of food. I can't imagine myself surviving on 15 meals per week. What do we do about this?

[akwok]

Half that. If you spend 75 hours a week on assignments you are not meant to be in CS and/or getting a high average.

CS350:OS, CS488:CG, CS497, CS489:HCI, CS489:Security, and CS466:Adv. Algo have all taken roughly that much time. My CS average is above 80 -- whether I'm 'meant' to be in CS is your call, I suppose.

I guess since I'm going into post-grad next (this?) year, I'm think I'm 'meant' to be in CS?

[anycee]

CS350:OS, CS488:CG, CS497, CS489:HCI, CS489:Security, and CS466:Adv. Algo have all taken roughly that much time. My CS average is above 80 -- whether I'm 'meant' to be in CS is your call, I suppose.

I guess since I'm going into post-grad next (this?) year, I'm think I'm 'meant' to be in CS?
Okay, so 10-20 hours/week on assign*5 classes. 75 average sound good?
75 hours on assignments
20 hours in class (assuming you have about 4 hours a week in class and go)
4 hours a week studying sounds about right for midterms, some weeks more, some weeks less (8 hours each for 5 midterms over 10 weeks?)
Total of 99 hours a week on school-work. No CSer works that hard: If you are "working" 100 hours a week (not just being at work) you are working from 8-11 every day including weekends, and you are a fast eater.
The average CSer does not do that.

[akwok]

Okay, so 10-20 hours/week on assign*5 classes. 75 average sound good?
75 hours on assignments
20 hours in class (assuming you have about 4 hours a week in class and go)
4 hours a week studying sounds about right for midterms, some weeks more, some weeks less (8 hours each for 5 midterms over 10 weeks?)
Total of 99 hours a week on school-work. No CSer works that hard: If you are "working" 100 hours a week (not just being at work) you are working from 8-11 every day including weekends, and you are a fast eater.
The average CSer does not do that.

The average CS'er does not take 5 4th year CS courses in one term (that's -barely- viable since the Registrar doesn't allow you to take Realtime, CG, and Compilers at the same time), so your assumptions are incorrect. What's so farfetched about 10-20 hours/week on a course if you'll take about 2 or 3 of them a term? That equates to about ~2 hours a day of work for a course, for a total of ~4-6 hours a day.

[Demonwar]

Hey Everyone,

I'm in Waterloo Co-op right now, and going for my 3B term in Math/CA in Spring 2008.

I'm in Math/CA and also a residence Don. I will be glad to help answer and residence or program related questions.

A quick thing I must say about residence after reading some posts. Prospective students always think that MKV is the best residence to live in, as it has all the bells and whistles. Spots are extremely limited there, as it is most people's first choice, so your odds of getting in are quite slim.

I donned in MKV and it is definitely a great place. I also lived in REV my first year. "It was my second last choice" It was one of the greatest experiences of my life. The interaction was incredible and the friends you make will last a lifetime. It is definitely a much more social atmosphere, BUT, even if you are a quiet person/non partier as I was coming from high school, you can definitely love it.

With that said, all residences have their pros and cons, and I'll be glad to help out with any questions.

[Nyte]

CS350:OS, CS488:CG, CS497, CS489:HCI, CS489:Security, and CS466:Adv. Algo have all taken roughly that much time. My CS average is above 80 -- whether I'm 'meant' to be in CS is your call, I suppose.


10-20hrs/assignment for those courses sounds reasonable, but not that much per week. The assignments are also relatively infrequent, so it all works out in the end.

[ryan123]

First year cs and cs241 are about 5-10 hours of assignment per week. cs251 is a joke:lol: It's like 1 hour of assignment every 2-3 weeks.

[andrew2good4u]

First year cs and cs241 are about 5-10 hours of assignment per week. cs251 is a joke:lol: It's like 1 hour of assignment every 2-3 weeks.

You're definately right about CS 251.

As for the other courses, I guess to each his own. You will have assignments when it just clicks in your head and you don't need to do much debugging and then there will be assignments when you're going half-crazy trying to figure out how to get done and debug it.

I think everyone can agree though, that once you finish those assignments, you feel like a friggin genius. ahaha

[ryan123]

You're definately right about CS 251.

As for the other courses, I guess to each his own. You will have assignments when it just clicks in your head and you don't need to do much debugging and then there will be assignments when you're going half-crazy trying to figure out how to get done and debug it.

I think everyone can agree though, that once you finish those assignments, you feel like a friggin genius. ahaha

Can anyone tell me how difficult are the following courses relative to cs 241:

CS 240
CS 245
CS 246

[akwok]

Can anyone tell me how difficult are the following courses relative to cs 241:

CS 240
CS 245
CS 246

It really depends on your professor.

I found CS240 (data structures) to be the most interesting of the three, by far. Some found it to be very hard, as our professor was Barbay, and he has a knack of writing tricky exams. I enjoyed it, and I had the same prof again for CS350 (his first time teaching it, too).

CS245 (if I'm remembering correctly, is logic?) was very fun and very easy. My prof for it was van Beek, who is awesome! However, CS246 /really/ sucked.. the material is useless and VERY stupid, and I had the worst prof in CS teaching it (Alencar).

[babaji]

Question about residence:

For the first year, say my friend is 1A>1B>off and I am 1A>1B>coop. Is it possible for us to be room mates? Or do we have to be in the exact same streams?

[thefleet]

Question about residence:

For the first year, say my friend is 1A>1B>off and I am 1A>1B>coop. Is it possible for us to be room mates? Or do we have to be in the exact same streams?

Since you are both in school for fall and winter, yes you can be roommates

You cannot be roommates if you have 1A>coop>1B and your friend has 1A>1B>coop or vice versa

[babaji]

Since you are both in school for fall and winter, yes you can be roommates

You cannot be roommates if you have 1A>coop>1B and your friend has 1A>1B>coop or vice versa

k cool, thanks

[gzajay]

Bill Gates coming back to UW...
http://news.therecord.com/News/CanadaWorld/article/306376


got a chance to see him a couple years ago, no idea how to get tickets this time tho

[ryan123]

Bill Gates coming back to UW...
http://news.therecord.com/News/CanadaWorld/article/306376


got a chance to see him a couple years ago, no idea how to get tickets this time tho

http://mathsoc.uwaterloo.ca/gates.php

they are gonna randomly pick 100 cs and 100 math students.

[alv077]

Hey Everyone,

I'm in Waterloo Co-op right now, and going for my 3B term in Math/CA in Spring 2008.

I'm in Math/CA and also a residence Don. I will be glad to help answer and residence or program related questions.

A quick thing I must say about residence after reading some posts. Prospective students always think that MKV is the best residence to live in, as it has all the bells and whistles. Spots are extremely limited there, as it is most people's first choice, so your odds of getting in are quite slim.

I donned in MKV and it is definitely a great place. I also lived in REV my first year. "It was my second last choice" It was one of the greatest experiences of my life. The interaction was incredible and the friends you make will last a lifetime. It is definitely a much more social atmosphere, BUT, even if you are a quiet person/non partier as I was coming from high school, you can definitely love it.

With that said, all residences have their pros and cons, and I'll be glad to help out with any questions.

Math/CA AND Don'ing? Doesn't leave much free time, huh?

[babaji]

Question: Say we get accepted to software engineering. Is it possible to choose your 2nd or 3rd "back-up" choices on your AIF rather than choosing software engineering?

[Adage]

Question: Say we get accepted to software engineering. Is it possible to choose your 2nd or 3rd "back-up" choices on your AIF rather than choosing software engineering?

Nope.

[civ@uw]

Question: Say we get accepted to software engineering. Is it possible to choose your 2nd or 3rd "back-up" choices on your AIF rather than choosing software engineering?

If you do have a change of heart, you can request to switch into a different program (even one you didn't apply to). They'll only be able to make the switch if there's space available and you have the pre-reqs.

I made a program switch after I had been given my offer. I sent a request in July to the school, and they made the switch a couple of weeks later. There's plenty of flexibility to move between programs for first year at least.

[ivraj]

I have a question about the waterloo AIF program. Can you still become a Chartered accountant if you join the Accounting and Financial Management in the Arts field? or only if your in the Math/CA program?

[alv077]

I have a question about the waterloo AIF program. Can you still become a Chartered accountant if you join the Accounting and Financial Management in the Arts field? or only if your in the Math/CA program?

AIF? You mean AFM, right?

You can be a CA either way... theres biotech/CA too. Mathies have to take extra courses over the summer if they want their CA designation though.

[synthtrance]

Math/CA AND Don'ing? Doesn't leave much free time, huh?

3B is pretty quiet. Generally, Math/CA is not too much work if you know how to manage your time.

[synthtrance]

I have a question about the waterloo AIF program. Can you still become a Chartered accountant if you join the Accounting and Financial Management in the Arts field? or only if your in the Math/CA program?

A headsup, if you enter the Financial Management(FM) stream of the AFM program, you will not have to access to the public accounting (PA) jobs during co-op. Of course, I know ppl who have gotten a PA job even while in the FM stream but you'd have to be an exceptional student.

[goobelygoop]

3B is pretty quiet. Generally, Math/CA is not too much work if you know how to manage your time.

Wait until you get to 4A :lol:

[Dark-Colonel]

Hey is anyone taking the Arts & business program? I applied for that program under German Co-Op.

[NerV]

Hey guys! I heard it's possible to apply as an independent student, but I don't know how to do it. When I tried not to include info about my parents, it wouldn't process my application. I talked to my financial office, they said it's not possible and they couldn't clearly explain why. I looked for some kind of appeal form or a check box stating that I am an independent student, but I couldn't find one. Can anyone give me any tips on this issue?

Thanks.

[synthtrance]

Wait until you get to 4A :lol:

The accounting does get a bit more difficult in 4A but I don't think the work load increased dramatically.
If you don't procrastinate then I think you'll do fine during your UW UG career.

[synthtrance]

Hey guys! I heard it's possible to apply as an independent student, but I don't know how to do it. When I tried not to include info about my parents, it wouldn't process my application. I talked to my financial office, they said it's not possible and they couldn't clearly explain why. I looked for some kind of appeal form or a check box stating that I am an independent student, but I couldn't find one. Can anyone give me any tips on this issue?

Thanks.

Call the registrars office, should be on the UW webpage. Also, I'm guessing it would depend on how old you were.

[alv077]

Anyone know any places for clothing alteration within walking distance of campus? I don't want to go all the way to Fairview again...

[andrew2good4u]

i'm pretty sure I saw like a dry cleaners or something at king-university. On the same corner as Phil's. I may be wrong though

[ryan123]

Anyone know any places for clothing alteration within walking distance of campus? I don't want to go all the way to Fairview again...

i think theres one next to TD Canada Trust near the University and Westmount

[hamham3001]

CS245,360,350, STAT231 and ENGL119 for 3A... :cheesygri or :cry: ?

[andrew2good4u]

How about for 2B computer science.. (bachelors computer science business minor for the record)
CS 240
CS 246
MATH 239
STAT 231
SPCOM 223

Also, I have two things I am doing right now. Firstly, I am letting people know that my house will be available for september. Its a great place in a really good central location in waterloo. Definately one of the better houses in the region. Its a four person place so let me know if you would be interested in living there. I would rather see a fellow RFDer get the place then some random.

I myself am looking for a two person place for myself and a friend of mine for september. If anyone knows of any good places, please let me know.

Thanks

also as a side note, I don't want to sublet. I prefer to have a place where I can stay for a while

[andrew2good4u]

nobody can help me?

[Trini2DBone]

You should be fine with that work load
CS 246 was not all that much work
Math 239 was alright
and SPCOM 223 well should be fairly easy as well

STAT 231 could be difficult depending who is teaching you and how they explain their stuff. I know for me we had a student teacher and well i practically learn everything by myself the week before the exam because going to class was just confusing
and well cs240 if i remember was not that much work in it.

So you're looking at a pretty nice 2B :)



How about for 2B computer science.. (bachelors computer science business minor for the record)
CS 240
CS 246
MATH 239
STAT 231
SPCOM 223

Also, I have two things I am doing right now. Firstly, I am letting people know that my house will be available for september. Its a great place in a really good central location in waterloo. Definately one of the better houses in the region. Its a four person place so let me know if you would be interested in living there. I would rather see a fellow RFDer get the place then some random.

I myself am looking for a two person place for myself and a friend of mine for september. If anyone knows of any good places, please let me know.

Thanks

also as a side note, I don't want to sublet. I prefer to have a place where I can stay for a while

[jors]

i have a question for those who have been attending waterloo.

is it possible to do your undergrad in computer engineering and then masters in software??? i heard from someone that he is planning on doing this...if i remember correctly...he said all of his electives or something were all programming courses....and this would allow him to take software as his grad study route.

can someone provide some insight...much appreciated.

[Tharyn]

i have a question for those who have been attending waterloo.

is it possible to do your undergrad in computer engineering and then masters in software??? i heard from someone that he is planning on doing this...if i remember correctly...he said all of his electives or something were all programming courses....and this would allow him to take software as his grad study route.

can someone provide some insight...much appreciated.

You can pretty much do your masters in just about anything, my friend graduated in 06 from Software is now doing his Masters in Systems Design Engineering / Psych

It really comes down to what you're interested in and if you meet the requirements, which for the most part are based on your GPA. Also, it definitely helps to get to know a prof who you'd like to have supervise your thesis / project in the area you're interested in.

Since you need to find a prof to supervise your thesis / project, it helps if you've taken courses that the prof is interested so that they know what you know and can supervise accordingly / are willing to supervise you.

So with your friend, him taking a lot of software courses / technical electives will make it fairly easy to do his Masters in Software.

[jors]

You can pretty much do your masters in just about anything, my friend graduated in 06 from Software is now doing his Masters in Systems Design Engineering / Psych

It really comes down to what you're interested in and if you meet the requirements, which for the most part are based on your GPA. Also, it definitely helps to get to know a prof who you'd like to have supervise your thesis / project in the area you're interested in.

Since you need to find a prof to supervise your thesis / project, it helps if you've taken courses that the prof is interested so that they know what you know and can supervise accordingly / are willing to supervise you.

So with your friend, him taking a lot of software courses / technical electives will make it fairly easy to do his Masters in Software.

thanks...i talked with him again and he said he is taking a software eng option along with the computer eng he is doing...dont really know much about what an option is but will try to find out...thanks for taking time to answer.

[babaji]

Question: What are the odds of getting into a single room for V1? Those double rooms and interconnecting rooms seem wack.

[thefleet]

Question: for double degree, what if you have 94-95 top 6 average, is this guaranteed acceptance? how important is euclid with that average?

94-95 average including prereqs will probably guarantee acceptance, euclid will only help you if you have borderline grades and if you do well (+scholarship consideration)

[thefleet]

Question: What are the odds of getting into a single room for V1? Those double rooms and interconnecting rooms seem wack.

should be completely random, so take the total number of single rooms available divided by first year students (less off-campus first year students)

[thefleet]

yeah I am raping the prereqs: 95 in advanced functions and 85 in english sem 1, this semester 101% in calc so far (bonus questions) and expecting 100% in computer programming. also have 96 in econ and expecting 100 in data.

looks good, I don't think you'll have any problems getting in, unless you write something like "screw off waterloo" on that supplementary app ;)

I'm doing frosh week again this year (math faculty) if you any good ideas for events go ahead and tell me :D

[df329]

yeah I am raping the prereqs: 95 in advanced functions and 85 in english sem 1, this semester 101% in calc so far (bonus questions) and expecting 100% in computer programming. also have 96 in econ and expecting 100 in data.

they must've made school easier :lol:

[synthtrance]

they must've made school easier :lol:

high school has become easier and easier it seems. If you're expecting those kinds of grades at UW, good luck.

[Jon Lai]

yeah I am raping the prereqs: 95 in advanced functions and 85 in english sem 1, this semester 101% in calc so far (bonus questions) and expecting 100% in computer programming. also have 96 in econ and expecting 100 in data.

Good luck expecting 100 in Data, ROFL. Your school must be extremely easy for marks like that.

What high school is this? According to Ontario Education Ministry, teachers aren't even allowed to give bonus marks. I'm serious, it's in black and white and no teachers should be doing it after the new curriculum guidelines in 2003. Hardly fair for the rest of us.

Then again, going into Waterloo, they take more Unionville HS students than any other high school in the entire world, so :lol: I guess life isn't' fair anyways XD

[babaji]

What's the difference between University of Waterloo President�s Scholarship and University of Waterloo President�s Scholarship of Distinction?

One requires a 90-94.9% avg and the other requires 95%+. I don't really understand that International Experience Award and Research Award business. Should I even try that much harder in school to get that 95%+?

[Jon Lai]

What's the difference between University of Waterloo President�s Scholarship and University of Waterloo President�s Scholarship of Distinction?

One requires a 90-94.9% avg and the other requires 95%+. I don't really understand that International Experience Award and Research Award business. Should I even try that much harder in school to get that 95%+?

The thing is, can you even get a 95% average? ;)

The extra $1500 is for your research funding. You can use it when you do research at Waterloo ie. buying equipment, etc. If you think you can get it, then why wouldn't you try for it? A 95% average gives you more than just this little, such as consideration in other scholarships as well.

I don't know which high school you go to, but it's not easy getting a 95% average even if you fill in a lot of bird courses in high school.

[73142]

The thing is, can you even get a 95% average? ;)

The extra $1500 is for your research funding. You can use it when you do research at Waterloo ie. buying equipment, etc. If you think you can get it, then why wouldn't you try for it? A 95% average gives you more than just this little, such as consideration in other scholarships as well.

I don't know which high school you go to, but it's not easy getting a 95% average even if you fill in a lot of bird courses in high school.

hahaah you think data is too easy at my school? think again, the class average in first semester data was a 63, and my data teacher refers to 70 as a great mark...The only reason I have 100 is because i truly deserve it, I come to class ready to memorize everything, I memorize everything and there is no way i miss anything on the test. My assignments are also done well enough for a 100. to the other poster above: I am not expecting these marks at UW, because i know that university is harder.

Also, it is easy to get a 95 average in high school without bird courses. I have only 1 bird course (ics4m) and my top6 average will be 95, and that includes a sheity 85 in crappyass english (the most useless course, not the essays/presentations, but the ******** literature). My marks are 96 95 85 100 97-100 97-99. Its all about the tests when you want a 95 average, are you prepared to memorize EVERYTHING, do 100s of math problems from your textbook that werent assigned? are you willing to go on the internet and find additional problems to solve? are you willing to beg the teacher at the end of class for additional marks? my answer is yes to all of them, thats why I have a 95 average, and most people in my class have a 70 average. AFter all that you may think im a geek who does homework all day long, Wrong! I actually have a spare following my lunch, I eat a big breakfast every morning, that gives me lunch+spare = 2h 10m every day to do homework, I sit in the library and do nothing but solve math problems until the end of day bell rings and I go home. I do homework at home not more than twice a week, usually projects.

[babaji]

The thing is, can you even get a 95% average? ;)

Yeye, fo sho.

[VorteC]

Hmmm, how import is euclid for Engineering applicants?

[phyrefly]

My marks are 96 95 85 100 97-100 97-99. Its all about the tests when you want a 95 average, are you prepared to memorize EVERYTHING, do 100s of math problems from your textbook that werent assigned? are you willing to go on the internet and find additional problems to solve? are you willing to beg the teacher at the end of class for additional marks? my answer is yes to all of them, thats why I have a 95 average, and most people in my class have a 70 average. AFter all that you may think im a geek who does homework all day long, Wrong! I actually have a spare following my lunch, I eat a big breakfast every morning, that gives me lunch+spare = 2h 10m every day to do homework, I sit in the library and do nothing but solve math problems until the end of day bell rings and I go home. I do homework at home not more than twice a week, usually projects.

Sounds like a great way of life. I can't imagine what you're going to do once you come to UW. Actually, I don't even want to know :(

[tomotomo]

Hmmm, how import is euclid for Engineering applicants?

I think from their perspective they look favourable at a high euclid mark. A high mark means that you've got some mad problem solving skills. In engineering, that's probably crucial with the heavy engineering math stuff and what not. I remember some students from Waterloo came to our class to market engineering. One of them interned at microsoft and I asked how can you have an engineering degree and work at microsoft? I was confused, don't you need to do computer stuff to work at microsoft? He did some mad spewing. I forgot most of it but the most important thing I caught and remember today on why microsoft hired him and he emphasized is because of his critical thinking skills, the ability to think and solve problems, to solve basically anything. The impression I got from him is problem solving skills is one of the most crucial skill among others you need in order to be an engineer. Therefore If I was in your shoes and wanted to get into engineering, I would practice for the euclid, not just to get into waterloo and impress them (that wouldn't really motivate you anyways), but to simply improve my problem solving skills.

Oh yeah, and I remember those engineering guys were really smart, talked on a whole other level lol . You'll be awesome as an engineer.

[jors]

hahaah you think data is too easy at my school? think again, the class average in first semester data was a 63, and my data teacher refers to 70 as a great mark...The only reason I have 100 is because i truly deserve it, I come to class ready to memorize everything, I memorize everything and there is no way i miss anything on the test. My assignments are also done well enough for a 100. to the other poster above: I am not expecting these marks at UW, because i know that university is harder.

Also, it is easy to get a 95 average in high school without bird courses. I have only 1 bird course (ics4m) and my top6 average will be 95, and that includes a sheity 85 in crappyass english (the most useless course, not the essays/presentations, but the ******** literature). My marks are 96 95 85 100 97-100 97-99. Its all about the tests when you want a 95 average, are you prepared to memorize EVERYTHING, do 100s of math problems from your textbook that werent assigned? are you willing to go on the internet and find additional problems to solve? are you willing to beg the teacher at the end of class for additional marks? my answer is yes to all of them, thats why I have a 95 average, and most people in my class have a 70 average. AFter all that you may think im a geek who does homework all day long, Wrong! I actually have a spare following my lunch, I eat a big breakfast every morning, that gives me lunch+spare = 2h 10m every day to do homework, I sit in the library and do nothing but solve math problems until the end of day bell rings and I go home. I do homework at home not more than twice a week, usually projects.

dude!...wow....damn.....the most i have ever studied is 3 hours maybe? and that was for my vector calc exam...i am rocking that course...98%...man with all that studying...wow....i don't know if you will have enough time in university to do all that...don't know but people like you that i knew struggled at uni because they said they don't get enough time to study as stuff piles on. maybe you will do better then them....just chill...its high school...have fun.

[tomotomo]

Gotta give the man props though. You work hard :!:

[73142]

dude!...wow....damn.....the most i have ever studied is 3 hours maybe? and that was for my vector calc exam...i am rocking that course...98%...man with all that studying...wow....i don't know if you will have enough time in university to do all that...don't know but people like you that i knew struggled at uni because they said they don't get enough time to study as stuff piles on. maybe you will do better then them....just chill...its high school...have fun.

are you crazy? you are under the impression that I study too much? i clearly explained that i barely do anything outside my lunch and spare periods. that is not too much at all to maintain a 95 average, i know people that kill themselves to get a 90

[73142]

Gotta give the man props though. You work hard :!:

once again, only during my lunch and spare.

[tomotomo]

Alright Gotta give you props man. You're smart :!: :)

[anycee]

hahaah you think data is too easy at my school? think again, the class average in first semester data was a 63, and my data teacher refers to 70 as a great mark...The only reason I have 100 is because i truly deserve it, I come to class ready to memorize everything, I memorize everything and there is no way i miss anything on the test. My assignments are also done well enough for a 100. to the other poster above: I am not expecting these marks at UW, because i know that university is harder.

Also, it is easy to get a 95 average in high school without bird courses. I have only 1 bird course (ics4m) and my top6 average will be 95, and that includes a sheity 85 in crappyass english (the most useless course, not the essays/presentations, but the ******** literature). My marks are 96 95 85 100 97-100 97-99. Its all about the tests when you want a 95 average, are you prepared to memorize EVERYTHING, do 100s of math problems from your textbook that werent assigned? are you willing to go on the internet and find additional problems to solve? are you willing to beg the teacher at the end of class for additional marks? my answer is yes to all of them, thats why I have a 95 average, and most people in my class have a 70 average. AFter all that you may think im a geek who does homework all day long, Wrong! I actually have a spare following my lunch, I eat a big breakfast every morning, that gives me lunch+spare = 2h 10m every day to do homework, I sit in the library and do nothing but solve math problems until the end of day bell rings and I go home. I do homework at home not more than twice a week, usually projects.
You sound like and arrogant jerk, just like me. You will fit right in on Bay/Wall Street :D

[73142]

You sound like and arrogant jerk, just like me. You will fit right in on Bay/Wall Street :D

Lol I'm sure I will

[mallik]

I was looking for some advice and thought I would ask here. My cousin is doing a non-degree term in the spring to transfer into science and needs to have a course load that consists of at least 2 science courses with labs.

There isn't a lot available in the spring so I was wondering how BIO 130 is and if it's recommended or what other courses might be better to take.

[phyrefly]

What's the difference between University of Waterloo President�s Scholarship and University of Waterloo President�s Scholarship of Distinction?

One requires a 90-94.9% avg and the other requires 95%+. I don't really understand that International Experience Award and Research Award business. Should I even try that much harder in school to get that 95%+?

UW's being cheap... there isn't much difference. I believe you can cash in the Intl. Experience Award if you go on a co-op term abroad (in addition to exchange), so that's probably the only one you'll have a shot at.

[babaji]

UW's being cheap... there isn't much difference. I believe you can cash in the Intl. Experience Award if you go on a co-op term abroad (in addition to exchange), so that's probably the only one you'll have a shot at.

yea, that's what i'm saying

like.. why even try when you get the same damn scholarship?

[anycee]

yea, that's what i'm saying

like.. why even try when you get the same damn scholarship?

my personal opinion: if you aren't going to get a major enterance scholarship to your top pick, and are going into a career that pays well, enjoy highschool and don't force yourself to get higher than a 90. Learn the material in the relevent courses, and do well enough in the rest.

drink/party/have fun then cram for finals to make your average.

(Especially if you are going into finance - a $1000 award matters a lot less when your coop pays $1000/week, and your uni grades become key, so save your energy.)

No one gives a **** about anything academic from highschool once you hit university, and i didn't find 90% of my hs courses helped, at all, for anything. I would even argue that english literature made my writing notably worse, as it moves one towards poor writing style.

[73142]

I would even argue that english literature made my writing notably worse, as it moves one towards poor writing style.

OMFG finally I meet someone on these forums who thinks that english and english literature is a waste of time/********.

[Fatman]

anyone know the conditions of conditional acceptance?

I got accepted to honours arts and arts/business

[Takada]

OMFG finally I meet someone on these forums who thinks that english and english literature is a waste of time/********.

You're just saying that because you can't do well in it. ;)

You'll probably do fine in university since work ethic is usually what brings people's averages down a lot, and you seem to put in a lot of work compared to most students. I didn't think that putting effort into school was something to be ashamed of these days though...

[phyrefly]

lol you think your rocking cal/vect with a 98 lmao, I just got mark updates today and im now getting 110% (bonus questions own). My friend in the same class is getting 112% l0l

So... you're trying to impress university students with your HS marks? HA HA

FYI, English (minus the Shakespeare part) is pretty damned useful if you're taught by a good teacher. I used to hate ENG4U as well, but now I realize how useful it was.

[mgronqui]

Anyone here take CS 101 through Distance ED? I'm considering doing it, but my experience has been bad with DE, as they give you a LOT more work. Also, in a course like this, I might need the one on one instruction and I might have to purchase all the programs myself. Is this true?

[Jon Lai]

Why does 73142 keep deleting his/her posts?

Yea okay, you're getting 110% in Calculus. Like we believe you. Again, in 2003 the Ontario Ministry of Education has officially deemed bonus marks out of the system, and teachers are not allowed to add in bonus questions. What school do you go to?

[meh_33333]

Is there street or area in Waterloo that is loaded with nicer restaurants? (i'm so tired of plaza)

[73142]

Why does 73142 keep deleting his/her posts?

Yea okay, you're getting 110% in Calculus. Like we believe you. Again, in 2003 the Ontario Ministry of Education has officially deemed bonus marks out of the system, and teachers are not allowed to add in bonus questions. What school do you go to?

lol I'd rather not disclose that, and yes you better believe me because I am, lol I can even scan my mark sheet if you are desperate enough to see it. I love my teacher's EZ bonus questions.

an example: cut a clock in half so 1 half of numbers is equal to other half.
answer: 9+8+7+6+5+4=39 and 10+11+12+1+2+3=39, there you have it 1 extra mark. the actual test itself is quite hard though (not for me, ofcourse), thats why we get easy bonus questions.

[akwok]

lol I'd rather not disclose that, and yes you better believe me because I am, lol I can even scan my mark sheet if you are desperate enough to see it. I love my teacher's EZ bonus questions.

an example: cut a clock in half so 1 half of numbers is equal to other half.
answer: 9+8+7+6+5+4=39 and 10+11+12+1+2+3=39, there you have it 1 extra mark. the actual test itself is quite hard though (not for me, ofcourse), thats why we get easy bonus questions.

I'd love to see you go into UW and get slammed when you finally realize that it ain't a cakewalk no more.

Memorization can only get you so far.

[mgronqui]

I'd love to see you go into UW and get slammed when you finally realize that it ain't a cakewalk no more.

Memorization can only get you so far.

Haha that trick only worked in high school. Here they make you think. It's a necessary evil for our futures :twisted:

[syn3sto]

lol I'd rather not disclose that, and yes you better believe me because I am, lol I can even scan my mark sheet if you are desperate enough to see it. I love my teacher's EZ bonus questions.

an example: cut a clock in half so 1 half of numbers is equal to other half.
answer: 9+8+7+6+5+4=39 and 10+11+12+1+2+3=39, there you have it 1 extra mark. the actual test itself is quite hard though (not for me, ofcourse), thats why we get easy bonus questions.

wow. what school do you go to? i should tell all the people i know to go to that school. i thought bonus questions werent even allowed

[ryan123]

Anyone here take CS 101 through Distance ED? I'm considering doing it, but my experience has been bad with DE, as they give you a LOT more work. Also, in a course like this, I might need the one on one instruction and I might have to purchase all the programs myself. Is this true?

i heard cs100 is the easiest course at UW. BTW getting a high mark in HS math doesnt really mean much man. I went to night school for Discerete and got 100 lol.

[Takada]

lol I'd rather not disclose that, and yes you better believe me because I am, lol I can even scan my mark sheet if you are desperate enough to see it. I love my teacher's EZ bonus questions.

an example: cut a clock in half so 1 half of numbers is equal to other half.
answer: 9+8+7+6+5+4=39 and 10+11+12+1+2+3=39, there you have it 1 extra mark. the actual test itself is quite hard though (not for me, ofcourse), thats why we get easy bonus questions.

HAHA! One person 110% in the class and another getting 112%. How many others? It sounds like a great high school to go to.

[73142]

I'd love to see you go into UW and get slammed when you finally realize that it ain't a cakewalk no more.

Memorization can only get you so far.

firstly, math is not all memorization.

secondly, i probably am not going to UW, schulich or queens are my 1-2 priority.

thirdly, i know university is harder, I am not expecting this there lol

[Jon Lai]

lol I'd rather not disclose that, and yes you better believe me because I am, lol I can even scan my mark sheet if you are desperate enough to see it. I love my teacher's EZ bonus questions.

an example: cut a clock in half so 1 half of numbers is equal to other half.
answer: 9+8+7+6+5+4=39 and 10+11+12+1+2+3=39, there you have it 1 extra mark. the actual test itself is quite hard though (not for me, ofcourse), thats why we get easy bonus questions.

You won't disclose your school, fair enough. Again, bonus questions aren't even allowed according to the Ontario Education Ministry's standardized curriculum. They set these restrictions for a reason, so that teachers like your's don't screw the entire province over.

What's the point of "easy" bonus questions anyways? Bonus questions should only be awarded when the question is at least to a higher level of thinking. That question you have right there, if you're the least bright, you'll know what it is immediately. If you're not as bright, you'll figure it out eventually through trial and error. Hardly something that is even worth a mark on a normal test.

If this was Grade 5, I could understand bonus marks. Grade 12? Just a nice way of screwing everyone else over. I'm certainly not pleased. I work hard for my 90 average and I'm proud of it. If everyone from your school enters 110% into university they'll know sooner or later to automatically "alter" your school's averages when considering admission.

[synthtrance]

UW math students can't really talk, given that most first and second year math courses have bonus marks or are shifted upwards or are marked out of less than their total or have some other manipulation by the prof that results in affine transformations of grades. The few that aren't have "best x out of x+2" on assignments and/or easy marking.

I suspect you are not a math student. Few math courses have significant weight placed on assignments. In regards to your comment on 'belling' the grades, this occurs in most courses, not just math. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a course that offers no form of grade adjustment as the profs change and the level of the incoming students changes.

[civ@uw]

Has anyone here ever received an NG in PDEng? Do they just make you attend a seminar, and that's it, you receive the credit after that? Or do they give you a slew of assignments which you need to complete during the school term?

[rogeryen]

Is there street or area in Waterloo that is loaded with nicer restaurants? (i'm so tired of plaza)

Uptown Waterloo maybe?

[Evgeny]

Has anyone here ever received an NG in PDEng? Do they just make you attend a seminar, and that's it, you receive the credit after that? Or do they give you a slew of assignments which you need to complete during the school term?

Depends on the circumstances: if you submitted most your assignments including the summative, and passed almost everything that you did submit, yes, you'll get a workshop at which point they'll either ask you to resubmit the assignment you failed or give you a new assignment (or multiple assignments, depends on your particular case); if you however failed a lot of assignments or didn't submit a bunch, then you'll have to retake the course the next coop term.

[gzajay]

Is there street or area in Waterloo that is loaded with nicer restaurants? (i'm so tired of plaza)

Up around Contestoga Mall (Northfield and King to be specific) you can find a couple better places. Definitely Uptown Waterloo...also try Downtown Kitchener

[babaji]

March Break open house, anyone?

[Takada]

I'm in math, hence why I am talking about math. My point is that it is hypocritical to whine about highschool courses where people get bonus grades, when, at least in my opinion, math is one of the easier faculties to get very high grades in because they have so much mark manipulation. Getting a 9x average is easier in math than engineering.

You're comparing grade adjustments in university math to high school courses? I think the fact that there's at least two students with ~110% in a single calculus class says a lot. The fact that he says you can just memorize the practise problems in less than 2 hours per day (workload for all his courses) to ace all the tests also says a lot. We had a few students who scored very high in math contests but could only get ~95% because the teacher did not give bonus marks, and we had very tough tests with very strict marking (many marks off for improper form). More than half the class was forced to go to night school to re-take calculus because the average was so low and most had plans to get into good programs.

But that's not the point I guess. I think most people are bashing him simply because he sounds like an arrogant fool by coming on here to constantly brag about his good marks and how little effort he puts in- 2 hrs day to do 100s of unassigned problems and additional problems from the Internet while rarely doing any other work besides projects at home... right. So, yes, he's going to bashed to hell with a dose of reality. It's not because his school is probably easy since I bet there's many schools like that. It's how he presents himself.

Being an arrogant jerk doesn't make you fit on Bay Street by the way. The friends of mine who are in business programs and got into top companies for their coop are nice, sociable people and didn't spend their high school lunches in the library solving math problems. They probably don't come on RFD to brag about their high school marks either.

[Takada]

I went into the Math 1xx final with >105% averages. I got 50 on a midterm marked out of 40, along with a friend. Same thing happened to me and two friends in a 2xx class. Personally, I see this as highly unfair, as I do not beleive this is common practice in other facualties (eg engineering) or other schools (eg UT), meaning that they are at a disadvantage for jobs and gradschool, just like HS students are at a disadvantage for scholarships.

You're arguing with the wrong person. I'm not the one who argued against grade manipulation. As I said, that's not the point. There are easier programs and harder ones. There are also easier high schools and harder ones. To be so delusional and arrogant to think that for sure your high school is hard when you get absurdingly easy bonus questions (at least 12% grade boost too??) because you, just like a lot of other students, get hard tests is a different matter.

He is probably full of ****, or possibly just smart. If you are sufficiently good at school, you can get a 90 at UW without much more time comitment than that.

I didn't say that getting a good mark with 2 hours/day spent isn't possible. I pointing more to the fact that he says he can do it with the method he describes. He can finish and memorize hundreds of unassigned questions, questions from the internet and assigned questions in addition to your other work that is of 95-100% quality in 2 hours/day. So, yes, he's definitely full of it. His knee-jerk and insecure defensiveness doesn't help me believe him either.

I came in the xteenth place on a national essay contest and had to fight very hard for an 89 in english - because the teacher didn't like the fact I only wanted high marks (true) and didn't like giving out high marks. I was awarded the "highest academic" bs hs award, and I was below 96% (with a perfect score on three provincial finals).

Okay.

Half my calc class dropped.

Okay.

It doesn't suprise me if the coops aren't arrogant: getting lunch for traders or proofreading powerpoint 16 hours a day, while getting chewed out if you **** up your proofreading, aren't really cause for self estemee

You're not surprised that coops aren't arrogant for working at some of the most reputable companies in Canada, beating out all their peers? :razz: Well, that's not even what I said, so I don't care. I said they didn't get to where they were by being arrogant jerks and solving math problems all lunch.

[andrew2good4u]

lets all just be friends...

[BeachBoy3000]

Hello my fellow UW students and potential students. I just thought I would introduce myself since I'm tired of staring at Excel.

I'm in Chemical Engineering and on my 3B co-op term. I'm working at a pulp mill in northern Ontario at a town called Marathon.

I see there are a lot of discussion on high school marks and so on.
I just want to say that, high school marks, while important for admission, doesn't mean jack once you got in.

I probably got into UW with an average on the lower end of the spectrum, I got accepted with a low 80s average and I was really worried at that time but it turned out alright.

Last term I was ranked 12th in my class, not too great but I was pretty satisified and I'm hoping to break into the top 10.

[phyrefly]

I'm in math, hence why I am talking about math. My point is that it is hypocritical to whine about highschool courses where people get bonus grades, when, at least in my opinion, math is one of the easier faculties to get very high grades in because they have so much mark manipulation. Getting a 9x average is easier in math than engineering.

Well, engineering and math are most challenging majors... what's your point? I only remember profs giving bonus marks in MATH137 out of all the math courses I've taken, and for a good reason. Tons of people would have failed were it not for the few bonus marks that could have been picked up. That's not exactly the same as giving out bonus marks in a dumbed down HS math course.

[Themannamedpatty]

I'm getting an 89.7- 91(at best) average, from the experience of last years students, is this enough getting into the engineering courses at Waterloo? ( I applied to nano tech, and Mechactronics engineering.), and how was your experience like?

[anycee]

I could respond line by line, but I agree with most of what you said so I will just state my key points:
1. Highschool is really really easy and booksmart people can get great grades at most highschools with limited study
2. Regardless, the 7xxxx guy is probably full of it. If he is, he will get owned by the UW.
3. I feel UW math bells too much, just it appears the 7xxxx guy's highschool bells too much.

I believe what I said was correct, but I said it in an agressive manner, so I deleted my other posts.

[phyrefly]

Why remove your posts? You've had different profs and have taken different courses, so your experiences will obviously differ.

Out of all my core courses, only one has been obviously belled, which shows how depent it is on the prof and the performance of the whole class. A couple of the courses had ridiculous exams (and class averages) and weren't belled.

IMO, UW eng bell curves way more liberally than UW math.

[73142]

March Break open house, anyone?

yea , ill be there this tuesday

[babaji]

yea , ill be there this tuesday

yeye, daps

To people visiting UWaterloo on the open house, what's your method of transport?

[jors]

yeye, daps

To people visiting UWaterloo on the open house, what's your method of transport?

walk...i live 5 mins away.

lol...on a serious note. if you want. you can take a bus from Toronto that will drop you off in downtown kitchener. from there, take a #8 bus that will drop you off right at the front of uwaterloo.

[babaji]

walk...i live 5 mins away.

lol...on a serious note. if you want. you can take a bus from Toronto that will drop you off in downtown kitchener. from there, take a #8 bus that will drop you off right at the front of uwaterloo.

sick man, thanks!

[anycee]

sick man, thanks!

or just take a greyhound straight to the university...

[Adage]

Yay. Open house = no classes on Tuesday :cheesygri


Meaning I'll probably be studying all day in DC. :(

[babaji]

or just take a greyhound straight to the university...

Yea, but there's only one bus that leaves to the university.. so if I were to miss that one, I would know another route.

[wesleyw]

walk...i live 5 mins away.

lol...on a serious note. if you want. you can take a bus from Toronto that will drop you off in downtown kitchener. from there, take a #8 bus that will drop you off right at the front of uwaterloo.

Or take the I-express that will drop you off right by the Student Life Centre...much faster bus route as well.

[babaji]

Or take the I-express that will drop you off right by the Student Life Centre...much faster bus route as well.

I-express? Care the enlighten?

[thefleet]

I-express? Care the enlighten?

Its basically the express bus, which stops at specified stops, one of which is at UWaterloo.

[manho]

Or take the I-express that will drop you off right by the Student Life Centre...much faster bus route as well.

i thought the IExpress's only stop at UW is at DC, and doesn't stop at SLC

correct me if i'm wrong.

[mgronqui]

How do you guys feel about group work?

I'm at the mercy my group and I finally made a stand and spoke out. It may make me unpopular, but in the business world you need to do what you need to do to get a job done; or in this case, get a good mark:cheesygri

[thefleet]

i thought the IExpress's only stop at UW is at DC, and doesn't stop at SLC

correct me if i'm wrong.

yes should be correct since the construction

[andrew2good4u]

I-express? Care the enlighten?

I recommend you ask which bus takes you to UW once you get to the bus terminal. From there you can catch all sorts of different 7 buses, the 8, and the Ixpress. Just ask once you get there, it'll make it alot easier on yourself.

[babaji]

I got back from the open house last night and was dead tired.

Those residences all seem good in their own way. Deciding which is best is so hard. D:<

But man, V1 was horribly small and looked so crusty.

[andrew2good4u]

I got back from the open house last night and was dead tired.

Those residences all seem good in their own way. Deciding which is best is so hard. D:<

But man, V1 was horribly small and looked so crusty.

Lol it's the people that make V1 more enjoyable

[babaji]

That giant micro-chip building looks really nice.

I was very disappointed to find that the rims of the outdoor basketball courts are all wrecked. :evil:

[andrew2good4u]

That giant micro-chip building looks really nice.

I was very disappointed to find that the rims of the outdoor basketball courts are all wrecked. :evil:

Oh the outdoor courts there by v1 are worthless. One is bent down and the other is significantly higher. I'd only suggest going there to shoot around. We do have many indoor basketball courts that are readily available for games of pickup. I'll warn you though. At times when only one court is open, guys come and DOMINATE and win for hours making the experience ****** foor garbage players.

Unfortunately, I am one of those guys

[thefleet]

indoor is where its at :D

[andrew2good4u]

indoor is where its at :D

yup yup I'll be there tonight to spank some ass.

thefleet, are you playing in the march madness tournement?

[babaji]

Oh the outdoor courts there by v1 are worthless. One is bent down and the other is significantly higher. I'd only suggest going there to shoot around. We do have many indoor basketball courts that are readily available for games of pickup. I'll warn you though. At times when only one court is open, guys come and DOMINATE and win for hours making the experience ****** foor garbage players.

Unfortunately, I am one of those guys

Will they fix them over the summer? Oh and how many courts are free normally?

DOMINATE you say, eh? What, did you play for your high school basketball team or something?

[andrew2good4u]

Will they fix them over the summer? Oh and how many courts are free normally?

DOMINATE you say, eh? What, did you play for your high school basketball team or something?

Those rims have been broken since I started school last september so I doubt they'll be fixed. Definately a low priority thing.

Don't take my word for anything, if you decide to come to waterloo, you'll become another victim.. lol. just teasin u

[babaji]

Those rims have been broken since I started school last september so I doubt they'll be fixed. Definately a low priority thing.

Don't take my word for anything, if you decide to come to waterloo, you'll become another victim.. lol. just teasin u

Bring it, pal. I can't imagine losing to a team of computer nerds.

[andrew2good4u]

Bring it, pal. I can't imagine losing to a team of computer nerds.

aahaha you'd be surprised what "computer nerds" are capable of

[thefleet]

yup yup I'll be there tonight to spank some ass.

thefleet, are you playing in the march madness tournement?

lol i'm on coop this term so no :(

[ryan123]

Bring it, pal. I can't imagine losing to a team of computer nerds.
You will be surprised by how good some of the "CS nerds" are. I wonder how it would feel like playing in CIF and PAC during the summer.

[Canada_7]

I don't go to Waterloo (I'm still in Gr12), but I applied there. Just wondering, how's the campus, student life, and surroundings. Is it lively with like friendly people you can interact and be socialable with, or are the students just all about school, school and more school, and refuse to talk unless its school (not that I'm guessing that's how it's like that at Waterloo, just using it as an example to ask the question)?

Also, I received an email some time ago about the Math Business program being changed or something. I've been told by a friend who currently goes to Waterloo that the change would make the program better, but a LOT harder to get in. Can anyone give details on that?

If it becomes a LOT harder and a LOT more competitive to get into the program, I guess I'm not even going to accepted with the measley 78-83 average I'm predicting I'm gonna get :lol: .

[Adage]

Personally speaking, I never leave campus. I've probably done it only 3 times this year, not including going home for weekends. Met alot of people during Frosh Week, but after that, couldn't remember them and completely lost contact. I hardly interact with the people who live on my floor in my residence, and the only contact I have are with high school friends and people in my class (due to engineers being in the same class). If not for being in engineering, I'd probably meet alot less people as my friends in science/arts/math can attest to.

Also, I practically live at DC library studying everyday after class right until I go home to sleep. My schedule works like this:

Class -> DC -> Rez (sleep) -> Class -> DC -> Sleep.

And unlike the other disciplines, engineers have 30 hours of class as compared to an art student's 10. <_<

[babaji]

Personally speaking, I never leave campus. I've probably done it only 3 times this year, not including going home for weekends. Met alot of people during Frosh Week, but after that, couldn't remember them and completely lost contact. I hardly interact with the people who live on my floor in my residence, and the only contact I have are with high school friends and people in my class (due to engineers being in the same class). If not for being in engineering, I'd probably meet alot less people as my friends in science/arts/math can attest to.

Also, I practically live at DC library studying everyday after class right until I go home to sleep. My schedule works like this:

Class -> DC -> Rez (sleep) -> Class -> DC -> Sleep.

And unlike the other disciplines, engineers have 30 hours of class as compared to an art student's 10. <_<

dayme son, how do people find time to play basketball??

[quarterlifecrisis]

You will be surprised by how good some of the "CS nerds" are. I wonder how it would feel like playing in CIF and PAC during the summer.

Alot of those types of people are just athletic and fast. I played some of those "types" of people at UTM Gym once, they're good...only because they're fast. I am like 5'6-5'7 tops and I was basically man-handling them in the paint.

[ryan123]

Alot of those types of people are just athletic and fast. I played some of those "types" of people at UTM Gym once, they're good...only because they're fast. I am like 5'6-5'7 tops and I was basically man-handling them in the paint.

damn you are a true baller, do you play in the All-star level intramural? And how do you even know if they are in CS lol

[Tekkan]

Personally speaking, I never leave campus. I've probably done it only 3 times this year, not including going home for weekends. Met alot of people during Frosh Week, but after that, couldn't remember them and completely lost contact. I hardly interact with the people who live on my floor in my residence, and the only contact I have are with high school friends and people in my class (due to engineers being in the same class). If not for being in engineering, I'd probably meet alot less people as my friends in science/arts/math can attest to.

Also, I practically live at DC library studying everyday after class right until I go home to sleep. My schedule works like this:

Class -> DC -> Rez (sleep) -> Class -> DC -> Sleep.

And unlike the other disciplines, engineers have 30 hours of class as compared to an art student's 10. <_<

Here is the CS Side

Exam time and large assignment deadlines - Lab and Library are your new homes

Other times - you'll have plenty of time to go party, socialize, whatever.

Best way to meet new people outside of Frosh? - Through friends and clubs. If you want to meet lots of new people, join a club. Worst places to try and meet new people? Class and bars.

Of course this rule doesn't apply to girls, because the lack of them in CS usually means you'll always have a flock of guys around you at all times.

And the last tip of the day. That little check box on the BMath app, that asks if you want to enroll in advanced math? Enroll, only if you really, really like math. If you don't, just take general.

Advanced math in Uni is not the same as Advanced math in high school.

[ryan123]

Here is the CS Side

Exam time and large assignment deadlines - Lab and Library are your new homes

Other times - you'll have plenty of time to go party, socialize, whatever.

Best way to meet new people outside of Frosh? - Through friends and clubs. If you want to meet lots of new people, join a club. Worst places to try and meet new people? Class and bars.

Of course this rule doesn't apply to girls, because the lack of them in CS usually means you'll always have a flock of guys around you at all times.

And the last tip of the day. That little check box on the BMath app, that asks if you want to enroll in advanced math? Enroll, only if you really, really like math. If you don't, just take general.

Advanced math in Uni is not the same as Advanced math in high school.
I never go to the labs for cs assignments, it's always filled with people(mostly fobs) looking for answers on the night before it's due. I went there once during first year, All i hear is people blasting Chinese rap music on the macs and people trying to exchange answers frenetically.

The part about the girls is not exactly 100% accurate because everyone in math has to take cs in their first year. But after that.....::twisted:

[danfromwaterloo]

Warning to all people considering Waterloo:

You have no doubt heard that it is the geek/asian/ugly chick centre of the planet. Don't believe what you've heard; it's actually far worse than that. Let's break down the three aforementioned demographics:

1. Geek - Do you remember that kid in your math class in high school that played dungeons and dragons, wore the pocket protector proudly, and had his underwear pulled over his head so often that he has skid marks on his forehead? Yeah, him and 2,000 of his online buddies are what UW refers to as "the Math faculty". Honestly, everybody who survives UW Math is a genius. It's almost an a priori truth. However, each and every one is the most socially awkward, intraverted, geek/dweeb/spazz you will ever meet. As a manager, they're great to hire because you know they'll never have the social capacity to take over your job, but they'll work damn hard for you, and if you ever need a question answered, they'll answer it - even if the question has to do with mages and wizardry.

2. Asian - For God's sake, they nicknamed the school Waterwoo. I'm certain that nearly a quarter of the school is Asian. Not saying that's a bad thing - just pointing out a clear demographic. You will be able to analyze the different grades of sushi by the time you graduate. You'll also be able to order in Cantonese by the time you graduate. Interestingly enough, most of the restaurants in the area allow you to order in Cantonese. Yes, it really is that Asian.

3. Ugly girl - Man. As a horny 19 year old, I was so ready to be ankle deep in va-jay-jay when I left home. First time away from the parents, so looking to partying and getting some. The women I met were so ugly, it makes you question reality. Buck teeth so far out of their head that they couldn't close their mouth. Really, are you supposed to have a mole that big on your face? Isn't that melanoma? Women who had more chins than the school phonebook (see how I tied that joke into #2). Women who I thought were men - for the first two years of school. Chicks who were severe burn victims. That's how ugly we're talking. Prep yourself for basically four years of self-love. You might score on an out-of-town girl, who came to visit her homely friend. Or, do what we did - walk up the street to Laurier where there was some distinct heat.

That's what you're going to get when you go to H20-LO2. And anybody that's been in the last 10 years can back me up - they didn't just live up to the myths, they shattered them in just how stereotypical the university is.

[board123]

Cmon it's not that bad. I'm in engineering so I can't speak on behalf of the math people, but one good thing about engineering is that most people here speak English. I probably can't say that about math.

[ryan123]

Warning to all people considering

2. Asian - For God's sake, they nicknamed the school Waterwoo. I'm certain that nearly a quarter of the school is Asian.



More than a quarter of the actsci program is asian. Before the class starts all you hear is people talking in Mandarin or Cantonese.

[board123]

UW is easily 50% Asian.

[riley123]

UW is very asian and when I mean asian Im including brown people
generally there are a lot of asian people in math and engineering programs. Other faculty might not have as much asians as those two. It is true that people you meet are nerdy but you can always find the "cool" people if you desire to.

I havent been around to other universities so I dont know the quality of the girls from other university but when you are talking about university, it is HUGE! you can always meet new people and there are always hot girls around and the MOST of them study hard, and yes, all the nerds getting ridiculous average in your high school will all be here in UW with his friends but as they matures they change, and there are a lot of "cool" types of nerds you can meet.

You will be surprised how good it is to hang out with the "nerds" that you havent even talked to a single time in high school and how stupid and waste of time it is to spend time being "cool" because nobody will really envy you for it. What really matters is how well you do in school and types of people that you will meet that will always be around to help you out.

You can always have your social life. There are a lot of clubs you can join, I do believe its the best way to meet people around in campus.

Choosing a school based on how "cool" people on the campus are is a very stupid idea, because you will always be you, its not like you can be the "cool" people just because you go to "cool" school and vice versa. so I hope you choose wisely, because non of that matters at the end

[divx]

Cmon it's not that bad. I'm in engineering so I can't speak on behalf of the math people, but one good thing about engineering is that most people here speak English. I probably can't say that about math.

It's true, however Dan's other 2 comments are still valid.

[riley123]

More than a quarter of the actsci program is asian. Before the class starts all you hear is people talking in Mandarin or Cantonese.

talking about the asians in the actsci....
my actsci class has about 90% asian students
its almost like a school in asia with foreign exchanged students..

[Jon Lai]

Cmon it's not that bad. I'm in engineering so I can't speak on behalf of the math people, but one good thing about engineering is that most people here speak English. I probably can't say that about math.

Engineering is English? What are you implying - the Chinese there speak English (and not Chinese) or the faculty isn't Chinese dominated (like all the other faculties are)?

I'm pretty sure the latter isn't true..

[divx]

Engineering is English? What are you implying - the Chinese there speak English (and not Chinese) or the faculty isn't Chinese dominated (like all the other faculties are)?

I'm pretty sure the latter isn't true..

Actually the latter is true.

[Tekkan]

1. Geek - etc

Foot note:

Its about 50/50 in terms of socially challenged students vs "Normal" students in the math faculty.

Finishing a BMath Degree does not make you a genius and you will not become some manager's ***** for the rest of your life.




2. Asian - etc

True. But this is true for UT, Ryerson, Western, etc. Unless you plan to go to school in the prairie or Atlantic provinces, there is going to be a lot of asians.



3. Ugly girl - etc


Its not as bad as dan makes it seems. There are plenty of good looking girls. The amount is probably less than western or Laurier. But about the same as UoT and Ryerson.

Though getting one for a hoedown, well thats up to your own abilities.

[Jon Lai]

Actually the latter is true.

Really?
A lot of my Chinese friends, including myself, have applied to Engineering. Here's hoping I get in :P

Anyways, I guess compared to the ratio in Math and Business you're right :P

[danfromwaterloo]

Foot note:

Its about 50/50 in terms of socially challenged students vs "Normal" students in the math faculty.

Finishing a BMath Degree does not make you a genius and you will not become some manager's ***** for the rest of your life.


Maybe they relaxed the standards since I went there. But most of the geeks will be the manager's ***** for the rest of their lives.




True. But this is true for UT, Ryerson, Western, etc. Unless you plan to go to school in the prairie or Atlantic provinces, there is going to be a lot of asians.


Are you saying the levels are the same or even remotely similar?



Its not as bad as dan makes it seems. There are plenty of good looking girls. The amount is probably less than western or Laurier. But about the same as UoT and Ryerson.

Though getting one for a hoedown, well thats up to your own abilities.

No, it's worse. They have thicker mustaches than I do.

[divx]

Really?
A lot of my Chinese friends, including myself, have applied to Engineering. Here's hoping I get in :P

Anyways, I guess compared to the ratio in Math and Business you're right :P

Out of my class of about 100 people, 10~15 are Chinese.

[Milvo]

Hi all

I am a grade 12 student and I applied for Electrical Engineering at Waterloo, my first sem grade 12 avg is 89.5 and I am hoping for a 90.5 average for my top 6 subjects. I do a bit of extracricular stuff every week, what you would you say is my chance of getting in?

Also, I don't know any computer languages, should I learn one before I go to waterloo?

Thanks

[quarterlifecrisis]

Hi all

I am a grade 12 student and I applied for Electrical Engineering at Waterloo, my first sem grade 12 avg is 89.5 and I am hoping for a 90.5 average for my top 6 subjects. I do a bit of extracricular stuff every week, what you would you say is my chance of getting in?

Also, I don't know any computer languages, should I learn one before I go to waterloo?

Thanks

What are the chances that the Leafs won't make the playoffs? E.g the chances are high that they won't make it, unless something really effed up happens.

Yeah definitely learn a language if you haven't already, I'm not sure what they do at UW, but UofT it's C++.

[syn3sto]

i heard uw will only use scheme beginning next year

[Adage]

i heard uw will only use scheme beginning next year

False. If you take CS135, then THAT course is Scheme based. There are still several first year courses that are not Scheme. CS100 (Joke course) where you learn about computers, HTML, and Javascript <-- Warning, for arts students. CS125 is basic programming in Java for those who have never programmed before (For those who HAVE programmed, this is ALSO a joke course). CS133 is a more advanced version of CS125 but geared towards students who have had previous programming experience but not with Java. CS134 is advanced programming based in Java. You can take it if you have previous programming experience with Java in High School although if anyone takes CS125 or CS133, they take CS134 in 1st year 2nd term anyway. Taking 134 in 1st semester just allows those who are ahead, to skip to second year courses in semester 2.

Also, engineers take different programming courses. Software takes CS133 and 134 in first year. Everyone, with the exception of Electrical and Computer, take C/C++ programming in first year. ECE students take C# in first year and go on to learn C/C++ in second year.


Hi all

I am a grade 12 student and I applied for Electrical Engineering at Waterloo, my first sem grade 12 avg is 89.5 and I am hoping for a 90.5 average for my top 6 subjects. I do a bit of extracricular stuff every week, what you would you say is my chance of getting in?

Also, I don't know any computer languages, should I learn one before I go to waterloo?

Thanks

You'll get in fine. Learning a programming language before coming to class will be useful. By doing so, you really reduce your workload. If you have any other questions, I'm in 1st year EE atm.

[phyrefly]

False.

It's true. CS125/133 are being phased out next school year.

Scheme... lol. Oh hai I is micrasaft and I lookin for scheme ploglammers!

[anycee]

It's true. CS125/133 are being phased out next school year.

Scheme... lol. Oh hai I is micrasaft and I lookin for scheme ploglammers!

+1
I heard the same thing.
Stupid move on the part of the school.

[Adage]

It's true. CS125/133 are being phased out next school year.

Scheme... lol. Oh hai I is micrasaft and I lookin for scheme ploglammers!

I was under the impression that it was CS134 that was being phased out.

Regardless, engineers don't take it =P

[divx]

Hi all

I am a grade 12 student and I applied for Electrical Engineering at Waterloo, my first sem grade 12 avg is 89.5 and I am hoping for a 90.5 average for my top 6 subjects. I do a bit of extracricular stuff every week, what you would you say is my chance of getting in?

Also, I don't know any computer languages, should I learn one before I go to waterloo?

Thanks

There are a total of 2 core programming courses for you. 1st one is ece150 in 1A and 2nd one is ece250 in 2A. ece150 is about c# and ece250 is about c++ (unless they changed it). Basically, if you can figure out how to write a linked list with sorting methods, then you got the course covered without doing much of anything else. Of course, this sounds easier than done for people who never programmed before, but since you are in hs, you have time.

[Jon Lai]

Since we're talking about programming languages, let me join in on the questions. I've also applied to ECE next year, but to CompEng. What's the reason ECE students have to do C# before C++? Is C# supposed to be easier than C++? I've never programmed in C# before, but in the past I did have some, albeit little, experience with C++. My high school does Java instead, which I understand was developed and inspired largely from C. How would the transition be?

Also, how far, or complicated, do programming assignments get in university? As an "extension", my high school programming teacher often gets us to make our Java standalones into applets, which to me is the most annoying thing to do, ever. I understand C# has a similar GUI-system that can be implemented. Do university courses require graphical representations such as Java applets in C# and C? If so, which year are they in?

[alv077]

Warning to all people considering Waterloo:

You have no doubt heard that it is the geek/asian/ugly chick centre of the planet. Don't believe what you've heard; it's actually far worse than that. Let's break down the three aforementioned demographics:

1. Geek - Do you remember that kid in your math class in high school that played dungeons and dragons, wore the pocket protector proudly, and had his underwear pulled over his head so often that he has skid marks on his forehead? Yeah, him and 2,000 of his online buddies are what UW refers to as "the Math faculty". Honestly, everybody who survives UW Math is a genius. It's almost an a priori truth. However, each and every one is the most socially awkward, intraverted, geek/dweeb/spazz you will ever meet. As a manager, they're great to hire because you know they'll never have the social capacity to take over your job, but they'll work damn hard for you, and if you ever need a question answered, they'll answer it - even if the question has to do with mages and wizardry.

2. Asian - For God's sake, they nicknamed the school Waterwoo. I'm certain that nearly a quarter of the school is Asian. Not saying that's a bad thing - just pointing out a clear demographic. You will be able to analyze the different grades of sushi by the time you graduate. You'll also be able to order in Cantonese by the time you graduate. Interestingly enough, most of the restaurants in the area allow you to order in Cantonese. Yes, it really is that Asian.

3. Ugly girl - Man. As a horny 19 year old, I was so ready to be ankle deep in va-jay-jay when I left home. First time away from the parents, so looking to partying and getting some. The women I met were so ugly, it makes you question reality. Buck teeth so far out of their head that they couldn't close their mouth. Really, are you supposed to have a mole that big on your face? Isn't that melanoma? Women who had more chins than the school phonebook (see how I tied that joke into #2). Women who I thought were men - for the first two years of school. Chicks who were severe burn victims. That's how ugly we're talking. Prep yourself for basically four years of self-love. You might score on an out-of-town girl, who came to visit her homely friend. Or, do what we did - walk up the street to Laurier where there was some distinct heat.

That's what you're going to get when you go to H20-LO2. And anybody that's been in the last 10 years can back me up - they didn't just live up to the myths, they shattered them in just how stereotypical the university is.

Pssh. I'm still knee deep in denial.

If I cover my eyes while I walk around MC, I'll be fine.

*edit* To be fair to future frosh, I went back to Toronto and said to myself, "Did people here get hotter?" =x

[Tekkan]

Since we're talking about programming languages, let me join in on the questions. I've also applied to ECE next year, but to CompEng. What's the reason ECE students have to do C# before C++? Is C# supposed to be easier than C++? I've never programmed in C# before, but in the past I did have some, albeit little, experience with C++. My high school does Java instead, which I understand was developed and inspired largely from C. How would the transition be?

C# has a similar syntax to Java. When I went to UW, they taught Java as the beginning language and I believe their justification was that it is an easier language for teaching object oriented programming. They could be using the same reason for choosing C#.

[phyrefly]

Since we're talking about programming languages, let me join in on the questions. I've also applied to ECE next year, but to CompEng. What's the reason ECE students have to do C# before C++? Is C# supposed to be easier than C++? I've never programmed in C# before, but in the past I did have some, albeit little, experience with C++. My high school does Java instead, which I understand was developed and inspired largely from C. How would the transition be?

Also, how far, or complicated, do programming assignments get in university? As an "extension", my high school programming teacher often gets us to make our Java standalones into applets, which to me is the most annoying thing to do, ever. I understand C# has a similar GUI-system that can be implemented. Do university courses require graphical representations such as Java applets in C# and C? If so, which year are they in?

C# is basically Microsoft's version of Java. If you know Java, picking up C# will be very easy. If you use Visual Studio, working with the GUI is very straightforward much less annoying than %^@#%@ swing.

[divx]

Since we're talking about programming languages, let me join in on the questions. I've also applied to ECE next year, but to CompEng. What's the reason ECE students have to do C# before C++? Is C# supposed to be easier than C++? I've never programmed in C# before, but in the past I did have some, albeit little, experience with C++. My high school does Java instead, which I understand was developed and inspired largely from C. How would the transition be?

Also, how far, or complicated, do programming assignments get in university? As an "extension", my high school programming teacher often gets us to make our Java standalones into applets, which to me is the most annoying thing to do, ever. I understand C# has a similar GUI-system that can be implemented. Do university courses require graphical representations such as Java applets in C# and C? If so, which year are they in?

C# is a M$ product, and M$ donated millions to uw/ece, so naturally...

No GUI involved whatsoever, all codes for ece150 and ece250 are to be written in notepad2 or any other text editor and all IO is done in cmd prompt. The point is to teach you OO structure and algorithms, that's still quite a bit for only 2 courses.

[Jon Lai]

C# is basically Microsoft's version of Java. If you know Java, picking up C# will be very easy. If you use Visual Studio, working with the GUI is very straightforward much less annoying than %^@#%@ swing.

Thanks, you talked my heart about SWING. I just had a hand in an assignment, 95% was based on the actual program, 5% on SWING. I picked up a book to read for 10 hours, and in the end I couldn't get it to work. There goes 5%, and 10 hours of my life :(


No GUI involved whatsoever, all codes for ece150 and ece250 are to be written in notepad2 or any other text editor and all IO is done in cmd prompt. The point is to teach you OO structure and algorithms, that's still quite a bit for only 2 courses.

THANKS A LOT, that's a relief to hear. If RFD had pseudo-cash I would give it all to you :P

But, any idea of GUI involvement in upper years? Or does it not touch it whatsoever? Microsoft hires lots of ECE students - if they don't learn GUI in university, that means Microsoft does the teaching for the GUI in C++? If so... ouch.. no wonder why Windows sucks XD

[ceraf]

When I took ECE250 in the fall, we were encouraged to use devc++. It may have been because of its compiler, but I'm not too sure.

Divx, did you happen to have D.W Harder as your professor?

[andrew2good4u]

Warning to all people considering Waterloo:

You have no doubt heard that it is the geek/asian/ugly chick centre of the planet. Don't believe what you've heard; it's actually far worse than that. Let's break down the three aforementioned demographics:

1. Geek - Do you remember that kid in your math class in high school that played dungeons and dragons, wore the pocket protector proudly, and had his underwear pulled over his head so often that he has skid marks on his forehead? Yeah, him and 2,000 of his online buddies are what UW refers to as "the Math faculty". Honestly, everybody who survives UW Math is a genius. It's almost an a priori truth. However, each and every one is the most socially awkward, intraverted, geek/dweeb/spazz you will ever meet. As a manager, they're great to hire because you know they'll never have the social capacity to take over your job, but they'll work damn hard for you, and if you ever need a question answered, they'll answer it - even if the question has to do with mages and wizardry.

2. Asian - For God's sake, they nicknamed the school Waterwoo. I'm certain that nearly a quarter of the school is Asian. Not saying that's a bad thing - just pointing out a clear demographic. You will be able to analyze the different grades of sushi by the time you graduate. You'll also be able to order in Cantonese by the time you graduate. Interestingly enough, most of the restaurants in the area allow you to order in Cantonese. Yes, it really is that Asian.

3. Ugly girl - Man. As a horny 19 year old, I was so ready to be ankle deep in va-jay-jay when I left home. First time away from the parents, so looking to partying and getting some. The women I met were so ugly, it makes you question reality. Buck teeth so far out of their head that they couldn't close their mouth. Really, are you supposed to have a mole that big on your face? Isn't that melanoma? Women who had more chins than the school phonebook (see how I tied that joke into #2). Women who I thought were men - for the first two years of school. Chicks who were severe burn victims. That's how ugly we're talking. Prep yourself for basically four years of self-love. You might score on an out-of-town girl, who came to visit her homely friend. Or, do what we did - walk up the street to Laurier where there was some distinct heat.

That's what you're going to get when you go to H20-LO2. And anybody that's been in the last 10 years can back me up - they didn't just live up to the myths, they shattered them in just how stereotypical the university is.

Damn you really hate waterloo eh? lo

[divx]

When I took ECE250 in the fall, we were encouraged to use devc++. It may have been because of its compiler, but I'm not too sure.

Divx, did you happen to have D.W Harder as your professor?
Yeah, we were free to use any editor we want.

[Adage]

Thanks, you talked my heart about SWING. I just had a hand in an assignment, 95% was based on the actual program, 5% on SWING. I picked up a book to read for 10 hours, and in the end I couldn't get it to work. There goes 5%, and 10 hours of my life :(



THANKS A LOT, that's a relief to hear. If RFD had pseudo-cash I would give it all to you :P

But, any idea of GUI involvement in upper years? Or does it not touch it whatsoever? Microsoft hires lots of ECE students - if they don't learn GUI in university, that means Microsoft does the teaching for the GUI in C++? If so... ouch.. no wonder why Windows sucks XD


I hate Swing.

But anyway, there's little emphasis on GUI. That being because the focus of 150 and 250 are not on learning the languages specifically but rather to gain understanding of fundamental programming techniques. If anything, you would learn more language specific features during your co-op term perhaps.

[kingkao]

Warning to all people considering Waterloo:

You have no doubt heard that it is the geek/asian/ugly chick centre of the planet. Don't believe what you've heard; it's actually far worse than that. Let's break down the three aforementioned demographics:

1. Geek - Do you remember that kid in your math class in high school that played dungeons and dragons, wore the pocket protector proudly, and had his underwear pulled over his head so often that he has skid marks on his forehead? Yeah, him and 2,000 of his online buddies are what UW refers to as "the Math faculty". Honestly, everybody who survives UW Math is a genius. It's almost an a priori truth. However, each and every one is the most socially awkward, intraverted, geek/dweeb/spazz you will ever meet. As a manager, they're great to hire because you know they'll never have the social capacity to take over your job, but they'll work damn hard for you, and if you ever need a question answered, they'll answer it - even if the question has to do with mages and wizardry.

2. Asian - For God's sake, they nicknamed the school Waterwoo. I'm certain that nearly a quarter of the school is Asian. Not saying that's a bad thing - just pointing out a clear demographic. You will be able to analyze the different grades of sushi by the time you graduate. You'll also be able to order in Cantonese by the time you graduate. Interestingly enough, most of the restaurants in the area allow you to order in Cantonese. Yes, it really is that Asian.

3. Ugly girl - Man. As a horny 19 year old, I was so ready to be ankle deep in va-jay-jay when I left home. First time away from the parents, so looking to partying and getting some. The women I met were so ugly, it makes you question reality. Buck teeth so far out of their head that they couldn't close their mouth. Really, are you supposed to have a mole that big on your face? Isn't that melanoma? Women who had more chins than the school phonebook (see how I tied that joke into #2). Women who I thought were men - for the first two years of school. Chicks who were severe burn victims. That's how ugly we're talking. Prep yourself for basically four years of self-love. You might score on an out-of-town girl, who came to visit her homely friend. Or, do what we did - walk up the street to Laurier where there was some distinct heat.

That's what you're going to get when you go to H20-LO2. And anybody that's been in the last 10 years can back me up - they didn't just live up to the myths, they shattered them in just how stereotypical the university is.

I got to say that this is a pretty good depiction of what goes down in waterloo. There are some decent girls in waterloo though, but prepare yourself for the most insane competition of your lives for them as the competition is fierce for the o so few good looking girls. And they definitely aren't in math and engineering. So don't anticipate any eye candy while you sit in class.

[alv077]

I got to say that this is a pretty good depiction of what goes down in waterloo. There are some decent girls in waterloo though, but prepare yourself for the most insane competition of your lives for them as the competition is fierce for the o so few good looking girls. And they definitely aren't in math and engineering. So don't anticipate any eye candy while you sit in class.

I know a few girls in math that are really nice...

Not in the majority at all though. I hear that the best part about being a female mathie is that everyone bends over backwards to help you on your work

[phyrefly]

I know a few girls in math that are really nice...


Math classes or math faculty? :(

pics! nao!

[andrew2good4u]

Math classes or math faculty? :(

pics! nao!

NEITHER!! That's what electives are for :twisted:

[slash-beowulf]

Anyone remember the tuition they had to pay for programming related(computer science, software engineering, etc) courses? Im planning to live in residence and just signed my soul to the devil

[goobelygoop]

3. Ugly girl - Man. As a horny 19 year old, I was so ready to be ankle deep in va-jay-jay when I left home. First time away from the parents, so looking to partying and getting some. The women I met were so ugly, it makes you question reality. Buck teeth so far out of their head that they couldn't close their mouth. Really, are you supposed to have a mole that big on your face? Isn't that melanoma? Women who had more chins than the school phonebook (see how I tied that joke into #2). Women who I thought were men - for the first two years of school. Chicks who were severe burn victims. That's how ugly we're talking. Prep yourself for basically four years of self-love. You might score on an out-of-town girl, who came to visit her homely friend. Or, do what we did - walk up the street to Laurier where there was some distinct heat.


LOL @ you thinking you were gonna get laid....hate to break it to ya, but it isn't the school or the girls that's the problem...

[Adage]

1A term of Electrical Engineering was around $9500 including tuition and residence. Since I lived at Rev, the cost were alot lower. For those who live at MKV or UWP, the cost would be higher probably around $1000 not including cost of food (also note that my cost included meal plan)

[Themannamedpatty]

I'm currently applied for Mechatronics, can anyone tell me how that's like? do you like what you are doing, the enviroment, school work, etc?

[meh_33333]

i go to waterloo and needed a letter saying that i'm a full time student here for a scholarship from my home town. anyone know where i could get a hold of such a thing?

[cadave]

i go to waterloo and needed a letter saying that i'm a full time student here for a scholarship from my home town. anyone know where i could get a hold of such a thing?

http://www.registrar.uwaterloo.ca/forms/index.html#ver

You want to fill in a Request for a "To Whom It May Concern" Letter... and check off the appropriate data you want included.

[meh_33333]

thanks a lot

[medic035]

I've been trying to search the forum.. with no success so far
Engineering at UW is definitely good but how is lifescience there?
anyexperiences? i'm trying to choose between western mcmaster and waterloo

[jnfr]

I've been trying to search the forum.. with no success so far
Engineering at UW is definitely good but how is lifescience there?
anyexperiences? i'm trying to choose between western mcmaster and waterloo

Hey there,

Waterloo is known for the technical programs -- engineering, math ... but not so much science. You're better off going to a University with a better reputation in that field. I hear McMaster has a good science program (same with Queen's), but I'm not sure about Western.

Then again, that is just my opinion and what I've heard. You should research each of those universities and find out their impact on the field and what their facilities are like, etc etc.

Good luck!

[bly]

Warning to all people considering Waterloo:

3. Ugly girl - Man. As a horny 19 year old, I was so ready to be ankle deep in va-jay-jay when I left home. First time away from the parents, so looking to partying and getting some. The women I met were so ugly, it makes you question reality. Buck teeth so far out of their head that they couldn't close their mouth. Really, are you supposed to have a mole that big on your face? Isn't that melanoma? Women who had more chins than the school phonebook (see how I tied that joke into #2). Women who I thought were men - for the first two years of school. Chicks who were severe burn victims. That's how ugly we're talking. Prep yourself for basically four years of self-love. You might score on an out-of-town girl, who came to visit her homely friend. Or, do what we did - walk up the street to Laurier where there was some distinct heat.


For those who were accepted in Waterloo's Accounting Program, you don't have to worry about this ;)

All the best next fall!

[cs_at_uw]

1) is there any REAL advantage in taking the advanced math courses over the honours, or the CS134 course over the joke cs courses in first term? or is this just pointless extra work?


2) what do you need in order to be competitive for some decent co-op jobs?

[phyrefly]

Do work report marks appear on the transcript as CR/No CR or as grades for the Math faculty? It's published with grades for engineers, right?

[Adage]

1) is there any REAL advantage in taking the advanced math courses over the honours, or the CS134 course over the joke cs courses in first term? or is this just pointless extra work?


2) what do you need in order to be competitive for some decent co-op jobs?


They're scrapping the old cs courses including cs134. The advantage to taking 134 first term was that it was a prerequisite to 2nd year courses and it would just help you get it out of the way faster if you took it instead of the other courses since 134 was an antirequisite of them.

As for getting decent jobs. Well, it is pretty much based on what you put on your resume. However, marks are well they make cutoffs to begin looking at resumes. Employers look very closely at your resume to see what type of student you are and whether you are well-rounded or just a bookworm. From my experience though, the employers asked me mostly about previous projects that I have worked on (robotics and programming projects I've done since I'm in engineering). Basically things I listed on my resume that was of relevance to the employer. Sure, it's great having tons of volunteer stuff and extra-curriculars, but employers still want to see at least SOME sort of relevant experience. So stating projects you have done in the past would definitely help. Overall, they are looking for the whole package. Marks, well-rounded, and relevant work. If you don't have any relevant work from being a first-year, then you will have to bring up your marks to balance this (and hopefully your high school extra-curriculars can help you out here too).

[anycee]

CS 134 is probably pointless extra work, but they are scrapping it.
Advanced math is also probalby pointless extra work unless you actually like math. If you have decent work ethic, you can get better marks in the regular section, with far less work. On the other hand, if you want to go into research or one of the pure math programs it is really a good idea.

Marks matter more for some areas. Jobs in finance/actuarial will tend to have higher mark cutoffs and put more wieght on them engineering jobs.

To be competitive for midlevel finance jobs? I would say probably a mid 80s average, good people skills and relevent experiance that shows a clear progression in responsibility. Given that, there will probably be a super candidate that will get the offer and reject it, and you will be left with a bunch of rankings...
To be competitive for the top jobs, considerable more than the above.

[noobnoobnoob]

Advanced math is also probalby pointless extra work unless you actually like math. If you have decent work ethic, you can get better marks in the regular section, with far less work.

Marks in the advanced classes are often curved in some way, so you end up getting marks that represent what you would get if you took regular classes instead (for example you can get up to 140/100 for assignments sometimes).

Also, the difficulty of each advanced class depends on your prof

At least that's what's I think of first year advanced math

[medic035]

Hey there,

Waterloo is known for the technical programs -- engineering, math ... but not so much science. You're better off going to a University with a better reputation in that field. I hear McMaster has a good science program (same with Queen's), but I'm not sure about Western.

Then again, that is just my opinion and what I've heard. You should research each of those universities and find out their impact on the field and what their facilities are like, etc etc.

Good luck!
since waterloo had one of the few pharmacy and optometry schools, i kind of thought waterloo wasn;t that bad for lifescience.. now i have no clue lol
is managing GPA harder compared to mcmaster or western?

[cs_at_uw]

Marks in the advanced classes are often curved in some way, so you end up getting marks that represent what you would get if you took regular classes instead (for example you can get up to 140/100 for assignments sometimes).

Also, the difficulty of each advanced class depends on your prof

At least that's what's I think of first year advanced math

often - but not always? i know i'd enjoy the advanced math classes but marks come first..


Marks matter more for some areas. Jobs in finance/actuarial will tend to have higher mark cutoffs and put more wieght on them engineering jobs.

To be competitive for midlevel finance jobs? I would say probably a mid 80s average, good people skills and relevent experiance that shows a clear progression in responsibility. Given that, there will probably be a super candidate that will get the offer and reject it, and you will be left with a bunch of rankings...
To be competitive for the top jobs, considerable more than the above.

what if i have absolutely no work experience upon beginning my first co-op term?

[anycee]

Marks in the advanced classes are often curved in some way, so you end up getting marks that represent what you would get if you took regular classes instead (for example you can get up to 140/100 for assignments sometimes).

Also, the difficulty of each advanced class depends on your prof

At least that's what's I think of first year advanced math
Marks in advanced are curved, but so are the marks in regular math. What I was trying to say, is that to get the same marks in advanced math as you would have in regular math you need to put in a more work. If you spend X hours a week on regular math you will get better marks than if you spent X hours a week on advanced math. This is partially balanced by the fact that advanced math is more interesting, so if you like math it will be easier to spend 2 X hours on advanced math than X hours on regular math.

[anycee]

often - but not always? i know i'd enjoy the advanced math classes but marks come first..
If you would enjoy them, take them. The only reason not to take them is that you don't want to/can't spend that much time on math. I left advanced math because I couldn't put in the time - I decided to coast by putting in the minimal effort to get good marks in regular math. However, if you want really high marks (100s, 99s) you should go to advanced as it is harder to get excessively high marks consistantly in regular math.


what if i have absolutely no work experience upon beginning my first co-op term?Since you are in CS, it is a hell of a lot easier for you as CS jobs are plentiful.
Also, for what I've seen as a non-CS student, marks aren't as important for CS as some programs in terms of finding work - employers will care more about experience and your UNIX/C# skillz...

Top reasons why people fail to find jobs (from what I've seen):
Poor marks
Lacking communication skills
International student
Didn't apply to enough jobs
Program that isn't a coop friendly (eg: Nano)

If you don't have one of these, and spread your job searching net wide enough, you are more than likely to get a job. Almost everyone gets weak jobs first term. Try to get something for your first term that will be interesting and set you up for your second term.

[cs_at_uw]

If you spend X hours a week on regular math you will get better marks than if you spent X hours a week on advanced math.
you had me set on regular with that remark..

This is partially balanced by the fact that advanced math is more interesting, so if you like math it will be easier to spend 2 X hours on advanced math than X hours on regular math.
but that's a good point that i forgot to consider, so i guess i'll just take advanced and switch out if i am short on time or (more likely) if i'm being a lazy f*ck

Since you are in CS, it is a hell of a lot easier for you as CS jobs are plentiful.
Also, for what I've seen as a non-CS student, marks aren't as important for CS as some programs in terms of finding work - employers will care more about experience and your UNIX/C# skillz...
so learning UNIX/C# would be the best way to optimize my job opportunities for first term? or is there some sort of 'experience' out there waiting for me that will make me a more desirable employee (i.e. experience that's not from previous co-op terms)

[waterlookid]

hey anycee,

couple questions...

are you in regular math, or math and business and um...what specializations?
also...i was wondering what kind of co-op jobs you've done so far at waterloo.

[ryan123]

you had me set on regular with that remark..

but that's a good point that i forgot to consider, so i guess i'll just take advanced and switch out if i am short on time or (more likely) if i'm being a lazy f*ck

so learning UNIX/C# would be the best way to optimize my job opportunities for first term? or is there some sort of 'experience' out there waiting for me that will make me a more desirable employee (i.e. experience that's not from previous co-op terms)

Go make some facebook game or app. Or any project that you can show off to your employers if you have no previous coop experiences .

[anycee]

so learning UNIX/C# would be the best way to optimize my job opportunities for first term? or is there some sort of 'experience' out there waiting for me that will make me a more desirable employee (i.e. experience that's not from previous co-op terms)

Sorry, I don't know enough about CS to answer that. I was giving C# and UNIX as examples: I'm not in CS and I'm not sure what skills are needed for CS jobs.
EDIT:
ryan123's advice looks good to me. Facebook app would be great from what I know (I would guess web/database related work is esp. good).
waterlookid ygpm.

[Adage]

From what I see, employers for cs-related jobs love it when they see any sort of database experience. (I.e. MySQL, SQL, Microsoft Access, Oracle, etc.) To be honest, I think that's why I was selected for many of my interviews as I had written down those skills.

[phyrefly]

you had me set on regular with that remark..

but that's a good point that i forgot to consider, so i guess i'll just take advanced and switch out if i am short on time or (more likely) if i'm being a lazy f*ck

so learning UNIX/C# would be the best way to optimize my job opportunities for first term? or is there some sort of 'experience' out there waiting for me that will make me a more desirable employee (i.e. experience that's not from previous co-op terms)

Language experience most commonly sought are C, C++, C#, Java/J2EE, and VB.Net in no particular order. As Adage mentioned, experience with any RDBMS and writing stored procedures would be a great bonus.

anycee, do work report marks appear on the transcript as CR/No CR or as grades for the Math faculty?

[icebird144]

anycee, do work report marks appear on the transcript as CR/No CR or as grades for the Math faculty?

I can answer that - CR/No CR

[phyrefly]

Sweeeeeet. What little motivation I had is now gone :D

[warren_s12888]

I'm currently applied for Mechatronics, can anyone tell me how that's like? do you like what you are doing, the enviroment, school work, etc?

I'm in 4B Mechatronics right now, almost done.

I like the program because you can a little flavour of all the different disciplines of engineering. The workload was heavy for me since I was in the guinea pig year. They have made adjustments to make the workload light for later years.

The environment is really nice since your with the same ppl from year 1 till you graduate. So the class is really tight.

Hope that helps, PM is you got any more questions....

[Canada_7]

Hi, I've applied to Math/Business Administration at Waterloo, and I'm likely getting a low to mid 80s average (82-85), so I'm borderline in regards to making it into the program marks wise (that I know of according to the mark cutoff, which I last saw was low80s, though I've heard the program is changing this coming year thus the mark cutoff may likely be higher now :( )I registered to write the Euclid math contest thing, and after just reading and messing around with the questions, I never really "prepared" for it, and will likely do poorly on it. I'm writing the math contest tomorrow morning (or later today, it's 2:30am right now :lol: because I just woke up to take a look at some of the previous contest's questions and answers). I've remember asking a month ago on the forums if Waterloo takes this contest into account, and the answer I got was that for my program they do, but not sure how much emphasis they put into my result.

My question is: if I do poorly (which is very likely) on this exam, will that basically have screwed me over for consideration into my program? Or is Euclid basically just something they look at afterwards and not take into too much account? How "important" and how much emphasis is my result towards my chances of getting into Math/Business Administration? If I'm likely to do poorly on it, is it better for me to have not tried to register for the math contest at all?

[PmEe]

Hi, I've applied to Math/Business Administration at Waterloo, and I'm likely getting a low to mid 80s average (82-85), so I'm borderline in regards to making it into the program marks wise (that I know of according to the mark cutoff, which I last saw was low80s, though I've heard the program is changing this coming year thus the mark cutoff may likely be higher now :( )I registered to write the Euclid math contest thing, and after just reading and messing around with the questions, I never really "prepared" for it, and will likely do poorly on it. I'm writing the math contest tomorrow morning (or later today, it's 2:30am right now :lol: because I just woke up to take a look at some of the previous contest's questions and answers). I've remember asking a month ago on the forums if Waterloo takes this contest into account, and the answer I got was that for my program they do, but not sure how much emphasis they put into my result.

My question is: if I do poorly (which is very likely) on this exam, will that basically have screwed me over for consideration into my program? Or is Euclid basically just something they look at afterwards and not take into too much account? How "important" and how much emphasis is my result towards my chances of getting into Math/Business Administration? If I'm likely to do poorly on it, is it better for me to have not tried to register for the math contest at all?

The euclid contest shouldn't really have an effect on your chances of getting in if you do poorly. I'm pretty sure they only consider it if you do extraordinarily well and ignore it if you do poorly.

I got like a 40% on the euclid and still got accepted haha.

[zelara]

The euclid contest shouldn't really have an effect on your chances of getting in if you do poorly. I'm pretty sure they only consider it if you do extraordinarily well and ignore it if you do poorly.

I got like a 40% on the euclid and still got accepted haha.

That's good to hear! I wrote it this morning and I don't think I did very well at all.

[ElvaSoShexai]

That's good to hear! I wrote it this morning and I don't think I did very well at all.

i didn't even write it (signed up but totally forgot about it that day) and got in.

o, and math/business administration average will probably go down... the most popular option (finance) will become it's own separate program next fall... what's left is econ/hr/systems management

[anycee]

i didn't even write it (signed up but totally forgot about it that day) and got in.

o, and math/business administration average will probably go down... the most popular option (finance) will become it's own separate program next fall... what's left is econ/hr/systems management
Thanks for the info: good to know... *searches vainly for rep button*

[andrew2good4u]

Yah the Euclid isn't too important. I had a track meet the day it was written so I missed it. Didn't affect my admissions from what I know

[icebird144]

My question is: if I do poorly (which is very likely) on this exam, will that basically have screwed me over for consideration into my program? Or is Euclid basically just something they look at afterwards and not take into too much account? How "important" and how much emphasis is my result towards my chances of getting into Math/Business Administration? If I'm likely to do poorly on it, is it better for me to have not tried to register for the math contest at all?

Euclid solely affects the amount of scholarship you will receive (at my time, which was 5 years ago). So doesn't matter if you did really bad in it.

[Canada_7]

I'd like to thank everyone for giving me replies. Phew, had me scared for a bit. I think I did probably extremely poor on it (in the 30-40 range most likely :( ). I applied for bursaries for Waterloo...here's hoping I get a good amount. Friend of mine told me living on campus plus tuition will cost me like 10k a year. My family isn't rich, and that's a LOT to be asking of my parents.


i didn't even write it (signed up but totally forgot about it that day) and got in.

o, and math/business administration average will probably go down... the most popular option (finance) will become it's own separate program next fall... what's left is econ/hr/systems management
Please tell me you are serious about this. PLEASE, PLEASE!!!! That is AWESOME if it's true. Any word on the accounting option of that program? Any word as to if that has any changes or whatever, or mark cutoff to be higher or lower, that sort of thing?

[phyrefly]

I'd like to thank everyone for giving me replies. Phew, had me scared for a bit. I think I did probably extremely poor on it (in the 30-40 range most likely :( ). I applied for bursaries for Waterloo...here's hoping I get a good amount. Friend of mine told me living on campus plus tuition will cost me like 10k a year. My family isn't rich, and that's a LOT to be asking of my parents.


Please tell me you are serious about this. PLEASE, PLEASE!!!! That is AWESOME if it's true. Any word on the accounting option of that program? Any word as to if that has any changes or whatever, or mark cutoff to be higher or lower, that sort of thing?

Euclid results will only have a say in whether you get math faculty scholarships. It won't have any effect on bursaries provided by UW.

[aerolim]

I'd like to thank everyone for giving me replies. Phew, had me scared for a bit. I think I did probably extremely poor on it (in the 30-40 range most likely :( ). I applied for bursaries for Waterloo...here's hoping I get a good amount. Friend of mine told me living on campus plus tuition will cost me like 10k a year. My family isn't rich, and that's a LOT to be asking of my parents.


Please tell me you are serious about this. PLEASE, PLEASE!!!! That is AWESOME if it's true. Any word on the accounting option of that program? Any word as to if that has any changes or whatever, or mark cutoff to be higher or lower, that sort of thing?

nobody will know what the cutoff will be and nothing is guaranteed whether math/bus program will be less popular or not. Math/bus will have 3 options: Economics, Human resource management, & system management.

they won't have accounting option. They already have a program called Math/CA

[Adage]

I'd like to thank everyone for giving me replies. Phew, had me scared for a bit. I think I did probably extremely poor on it (in the 30-40 range most likely :( ). I applied for bursaries for Waterloo...here's hoping I get a good amount. Friend of mine told me living on campus plus tuition will cost me like 10k a year. My family isn't rich, and that's a LOT to be asking of my parents.

That's per term. Roughly 20k per year.

<Rant>
This is all without bursaries and OSAP. I feel cheated that the government gave me ZERO in OSAP and UW gave me ZERO in bursaries when both my parents work. And then we have students who have parents working "outside" the country so they appear to have no income when in fact, they are probably richer than any of us.

They really need to rethink the whole OSAP/bursary system. How is it fair that I get no government help and someone who claims to make less than 9k/year but has their family gain money from outside sources able to claim Around 9k in government aid?
</rant>

[manho]

I applied for bursaries for Waterloo...here's hoping I get a good amount. Friend of mine told me living on campus plus tuition will cost me like 10k a year. My family isn't rich, and that's a LOT to be asking of my parents.

Good move.

Here's something I want to say to all Waterloo students. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS apply for bursary. All you got to do is ask your parents for three lines on their tax return and fill in a form, and you get free money! I've gotten about $8k to 9k over the course of 6 terms (i didnt know any better in 1st year and didn't apply)

As long as you can prove you have expense > income, then you're eligible. (and you have to apply OSAP as well. However, if you really want to, the loophole is that you can apply OSAP, not pick it up, and apply for bursary)

Although, the Registrar Office says bursary is calculated automatically now, but you can still always hand in a "Busary - Appeal" form to state your expense is more than your income.

[Canada_7]

nobody will know what the cutoff will be and nothing is guaranteed whether math/bus program will be less popular or not. Math/bus will have 3 options: Economics, Human resource management, & system management.

they won't have accounting option. They already have a program called Math/CA
http://electronicinfo.ca/en/program-details.php?pcode=205745_190208_304_136

That's what I applied to, but I got notified that this program or something got changed. Here's the email I got. For some reason...it says I've applied to Business Admin (both in the letter AND OUAC), but I applied for the same course code as the one listed in the link I've provided above.

Thank you for your application to the Mathematics/Business Administration program at the University of Waterloo.

We want to be sure that you're aware of the recent changes to this program. Commencing in fall 2008, the Finance Option in the Math/Business Administration program (WMB) will be replaced by the new Mathematics/Financial Analysis and Risk Management program (WMF). More information about both programs can be found on our website at www.mathbus.uwaterloo.ca.

If you know that you’d like to study finance, we encourage you to look carefully at the new program. If you would like to amend your application to Mathematics/Financial Analysis and Risk Management, you can do so on the Ontario Universities' Application Centre website. Follow the instructions at http://www.findoutmore.uwaterloo.ca/thenextstep/applicants/review.php .

The remainder of the Mathematics/Business Administration program is unchanged, and if you do not amend your application, you will be considered for admission.

If you have any questions about these programs or how these changes may affect your application, please feel free to contact me at any time.

Thank you and good luck with the remainder of your studies. Brent Matheson,Math/Business, Math/Financial Analysis and Risk Management Program Director

EDIT: CRAP. I've applied to the wrong program and didn't notice until NOW. WOW. Anyways, the program I was originally intending to apply for, the link to it is at the top of this post. THIS is what I've applied to instead for some freaking reason.

http://electronicinfo.ca/en/program-details.php?pcode=190221_190208_399_175

Crap. I wanted to apply for ACCOUNTING, NOT Business Admin. Crap. So...let's say I get into there, is there anyway I can transfer as soon as possible into the program I ORIGINALLY intended? I can't believe I didn't even notice I've been applied to the wrong program for so freaking long.

EDIT 2: Apparently, hearing from a friend of mine who had applied to the original program I intended, he told me that Waterloo sends an invitation to write a test to see if they will continue to consider you and wait for your midterm marks. That test required you to have atleast an 83% average in first sem, plus they looked at your gr11 marks (mainly to see if you got 75+ in gr11 English). If you didn't have those, you wouldn't have even got an invitation to write the test, thus not even being considered. My first semester wasn't great and was only even intending on using two of my first semester courses...sigh. So the program I originally intended to wasn't even really an option to begin with...Hope I can atleast make it in to Business Admin...

[phyrefly]

As long as you can prove you have expense > income, then you're eligible.

Please explain :)

What qualifies as 'expense' and whose income are you talking about?

[manho]

Please explain :)

What qualifies as 'expense' and whose income are you talking about?

as simple as this:
http://safa.uwaterloo.ca/bursaries/bursary_budget.html

If you qualify for everything that's said in that site, then u're good for a cheque.

Note the line at the bottom: If this result is negative, then you have demonstrated a financial need. If the result is positive, then you should have enough financial resources to cover your costs.

In expense columns where they give you a ballpark number, it doesn't take a waterloo master of accounting student to figure out that you should fill the high range value ;)

[andrew2good4u]

Good move.

Here's something I want to say to all Waterloo students. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS apply for bursary. All you got to do is ask your parents for three lines on their tax return and fill in a form, and you get free money! I've gotten about $8k to 9k over the course of 6 terms (i didnt know any better in 1st year and didn't apply)

As long as you can prove you have expense > income, then you're eligible. (and you have to apply OSAP as well. However, if you really want to, the loophole is that you can apply OSAP, not pick it up, and apply for bursary)

Although, the Registrar Office says bursary is calculated automatically now, but you can still always hand in a "Busary - Appeal" form to state your expense is more than your income.

Jackpot!! SAFA will be seeing me very soon. I only thought there was the automatic bursary but if I can appeal it and get more, I'll definately do that. I need any help I can get

[phyrefly]

Well, damn. I'm automatically disqualified because of my savings and co-op :(

I take it that you're not in co-op?

[Jon Lai]

Well, damn. I'm automatically disqualified because of my savings and co-op :(

I take it that you're not in co-op?

What? UW doesn't give bursary to Co-op?

[manho]

Well, damn. I'm automatically disqualified because of my savings and co-op :(

I take it that you're not in co-op?

They don't look at your saving, unless it's a RESP or a car.

I'm in co-op and I'm still qualified. As a matter of fact, it's better that you're in co-op. You would have to write a statement explaining why you weren't working in the summer (or the term off), if your income the term before the applying term is minimal.

Oh. And use your med and dental benefits, eh. If you didn't opt-out. Being sick once a year, going to the optometrist once, and dentist once is more or less breaking even.

Keeping medical bills that aren't covered in the health benefits are considered "Other" expense in bursary, too

[phyrefly]

They don't look at your saving, unless it's a RESP or a car.

I'm in co-op and I'm still qualified. As a matter of fact, it's better that you're in co-op. You would have to write a statement explaining why you weren't working in the summer (or the term off), if your income the term before the applying term is minimal.

Oh. And use your med and dental benefits, eh. If you didn't opt-out. Being sick once a year, going to the optometrist once, and dentist once is more or less breaking even.

Keeping medical bills that aren't covered in the health benefits are considered "Other" expense in bursary, too

Ohhh... I misunderstood. I thought Savings was whatever I had in the bank/investments (including co-op earnings).

But... OSAP asks for your savings and previous income. Won't UW take a look at those figures as well?

edit: Is it too early to apply for OSAP for the spring term? I can't find a CS spring semester under program selection.

[civ@uw]

Ohhh... I misunderstood. I thought Savings was whatever I had in the bank/investments (including co-op earnings).

But... OSAP asks for your savings and previous income. Won't UW take a look at those figures as well?

edit: Is it too early to apply for OSAP for the spring term? I can't find a CS spring semester under program selection.

Are you in co-op? The financial aid office told me you aren't supposed to start a new application for the spring term. Instead, you need to submit a rollover form that adds on an extra school term to your fall OSAP application:

http://safa.uwaterloo.ca/forms/Forms%202007_08/2007_08%20Reinstatement.pdf

If that doesn't suit you, one of these forms might be helpful:

http://safa.uwaterloo.ca/forms.html

[phyrefly]

Are you in co-op? The financial aid office told me you aren't supposed to start a new application for the spring term. Instead, you need to submit a rollover form that adds on an extra school term to your fall OSAP application:

http://safa.uwaterloo.ca/forms/Forms%202007_08/2007_08%20Reinstatement.pdf

If that doesn't suit you, one of these forms might be helpful:

http://safa.uwaterloo.ca/forms.html

Thanks!

edit: Is it possible to apply for OSAP for spring '08 (2B) if I didn't apply for it during fall '07 (2A)?

[thefleet]

Thanks!

edit: Is it possible to apply for OSAP for spring '08 (2B) if I didn't apply for it during fall '07 (2A)?

yes should be no problem, but make sure you stay in interest-free status for obvious reasons

[jnfr]

aaaaaaah 10 days left of co-op for all your co-op-ers.
:cheesygri

[thefleet]

i'm done next friday :)

[Atheral]

i'm done next friday :)

Today was my last day for this co-op term!

Ah... a nice 2 week break before school starts.

Don't you guys just love the summer term? :)

[adcheung]

Today was my last day for this co-op term!

Ah... a nice 2 week break before school starts.

Don't you guys just love the summer term? :)

Summer term hasnt even started and I already smell the goose poop :)

[sc_rsx]

Hi all sorry to side track but just a quick question: I'm a grade 12 student applying to UW' civil engineering program. As of last Friday 2nd semester mid term marks are final. My average for 6 courses is 86 (with quite a bit of extra curricular activities). Can experienced people like yourselves estimate my chances of getting in? Please and thank you.

[manho]

Hi all sorry to side track but just a quick question: I'm a grade 12 student applying to UW' civil engineering program. As of last Friday 2nd semester mid term marks are final. My average for 6 courses is 86 (with quite a bit of extra curricular activities). Can experienced people like yourselves estimate my chances of getting in? Please and thank you.

From my experience, a 86 should be more than enough for civil. Civil usually only requires a low 80.

[sc_rsx]

From my experience, a 86 should be more than enough for civil. Civil usually only requires a low 80.

That has to be the best thing ive heard all year. Thank You so much.

[CingKrab]

Does anyone know approximately when Waterloo make decisions for graduate admissions? I'm getting a bit antsy because I've got an offer that I've got to respond to by the end of the month, but I haven't heard anything from Waterloo yet.

[manho]

Does anyone know approximately when Waterloo make decisions for graduate admissions? I'm getting a bit antsy because I've got an offer that I've got to respond to by the end of the month, but I haven't heard anything from Waterloo yet.

every program and dept is different. Some department, eg. engineering, sents out admissions all year around. Some has specific deadlines, eg. MA Econ or MFinance, and will proabably sent out admission in waves, but the precise timing still differ between programs

[jason_3108]

Question:
For ppl who are in Math & Bus Coop, why do they recommand computer science for high school applicants?? i am interested in doing math and bus, but really hate computer science.. so do i need to take a lot of computer sci courses if i choose this program?? appreciate any help!

[Jon Lai]

Question:
For ppl who are in Math & Bus Coop, why do they recommand computer science for high school applicants?? i am interested in doing math and bus, but really hate computer science.. so do i need to take a lot of computer sci courses if i choose this program?? appreciate any help!

You will be taking computer science in all first year business, math, and engineering courses, so computer science is usually recommended for these as prerequisites. The logic you use and require in computer science is really helpful in business.

[jason_3108]

You will be taking computer science in all first year business, math, and engineering courses, so computer science is usually recommended for these as prerequisites. The logic you use and require in computer science is really helpful in business.

thx for answering.
do i only need to take comp sci in the first year?? is it a required course after the first year?

[alv077]

thx for answering.
do i only need to take comp sci in the first year?? is it a required course after the first year?

Not required after first year afaik. At least, my gf is a math major and she isn't continuing CS.

Are you in double degree? If so... http://www.mathbus.uwaterloo.ca/docs/DD.pdf

If you are not... http://www.mathbus.uwaterloo.ca/docs/MathBUS.pdf

[jason_3108]

Hey guys, one more question.
When is waterloo going to send us the euclid result? coz i am waiting for offers in the math faculty, so i guess they might send out offers when they have all the euclid results...

[thefleet]

http://cemc.math.uwaterloo.ca/english/index.shtml

[jason_3108]

oh...
they already sent out the results....
does anyone know when are the offers coming out from the math faculty??
Any help would be appreciated..

[jason_3108]

i applied for math/bus coop, but got alternative for Mathematics, Honours, Co-operative Program....
still chance for the math/bus coop???
my top 6 is 88....and they dont even offer me the regular math/bus.........=.=
anyone else in the same situation? need helpp

[astraea]

oh...
they already sent out the results....
does anyone know when are the offers coming out from the math faculty??
Any help would be appreciated..

I got accepted into Computer Science, co-op yesterday
which belongs in the Faculty of Mathematics :)
ALL THE BEST to everyone still waiting!

[encrypter]

Faculty of Engineering finally sent out their offers!

I got into Systems Design Engineering, any fellow deal hunters coming with me?

[Deadmon]

Faculty of Engineering finally sent out their offers!

I got into Systems Design Engineering, any fellow deal hunters coming with me?

Thanks for the notice! Got into Software Eng. :)

[ElvaSoShexai]

i applied for math/bus coop, but got alternative for Mathematics, Honours, Co-operative Program....
still chance for the math/bus coop???
my top 6 is 88....and they dont even offer me the regular math/bus.........=.=
anyone else in the same situation? need helpp

i dun think u acually get into the program until 2nd yr neway... and once ur in math i think it should b easy 2 switch to the program u want... u only needed an overall 70% to get into math/bus - finance

[ElvaSoShexai]

Question:
For ppl who are in Math & Bus Coop, why do they recommand computer science for high school applicants?? i am interested in doing math and bus, but really hate computer science.. so do i need to take a lot of computer sci courses if i choose this program?? appreciate any help!

what people said is wrong. u have to take upper year cs courses... but they r cs courses for non-cs majors.. so they r incredibly easy (but that is coming from someone that switched from cs)... i think wat u take depends on ur option and the calendar yr u r following...

the 3 that come to mind are CS 330, CS 432 and CS 338.. oh, and if you are in systems management option, then you have to take more cs courses

[jason_3108]

question:
i got accepted by the pure math coop program (alternative to math&bus), and some people told me that it would be easy for me to switch back to the math&bus in my second year.

so my questions: is it as easy as they say it is? had anyone tried to do the same thing before? and what is difference between pure math and math/bus in terms of courses (in the first year)?

I will really appreciate any help..

[alv077]

question:
i got accepted by the pure math coop program (alternative to math&bus), and some people told me that it would be easy for me to switch back to the math&bus in my second year.

so my questions: is it as easy as they say it is? had anyone tried to do the same thing before? and what is difference between pure math and math/bus in terms of courses (in the first year)?

I will really appreciate any help..

You stinky mathies take the same year 1 courses and apply to specific programs after year 1 anyways.

[Dark-Colonel]

I have a question for you UW students who are/know someone in the Arts & business program.

I've been offered admission to the Honours Arts & business Co-op and I'm just curious about what current students at UW A&B think of their program.

[alv077]

I have a question for you UW students who are/know someone in the Arts & business program.

I've been offered admission to the Honours Arts & business Co-op and I'm just curious about what current students at UW A&B think of their program.

I have friends in arts and business... they're happy. I know one that is making 14ish an hour on his first coop if memory serves me right. That being said, arts and business students get ripped on a lot by other students... The engineers, mathies and accounting kids say stuff like, "at least im not in..." pretty frequently.

Though that shouldn't turn you off - if you are going for an arts degree, I am sure you will get that everywhere. The program itself is solid... from what I have seen, our psych profs are really good.

[Agent_DESI]

sorry

*content removed because it was posted in wrong topic*

[Dark-Colonel]

I have friends in arts and business... they're happy. I know one that is making 14ish an hour on his first coop if memory serves me right. That being said, arts and business students get ripped on a lot by other students... The engineers, mathies and accounting kids say stuff like, "at least im not in..." pretty frequently.

Though that shouldn't turn you off - if you are going for an arts degree, I am sure you will get that everywhere. The program itself is solid... from what I have seen, our psych profs are really good.

I don't think they'll be doing that around me, I'm quite the intimating guy (though I'm totally the most relaxed big guy you'll see) unless I become good friends with people from other programs, then I'll make fun of them in some other way (I'll figure something out). Thats pretty good for Co-op! I'm glad to know that they are happy.

Yeah I know I can get an arts degree from pretty much anywhere, but the reason why I'm going with UW is because I've been offered the Honours co-op program. Co-op sealed the deal for me and I'll be looking forward to attending UW. I don't care too much about what people say about the girls/social life in UW.

Another question, how is UW's rugby team? Does the team get a lot of interest, how well does the team perform and etc.

[steevee]

I don't care too much about what people say about the girls/social life in UW

Believe me, it will get to you. Until you go down the street to Laurier of course :cheesygri

[alv077]

I don't think they'll be doing that around me, I'm quite the intimating guy (though I'm totally the most relaxed big guy you'll see) unless I become good friends with people from other programs, then I'll make fun of them in some other way (I'll figure something out). Thats pretty good for Co-op! I'm glad to know that they are happy.

Yeah I know I can get an arts degree from pretty much anywhere, but the reason why I'm going with UW is because I've been offered the Honours co-op program. Co-op sealed the deal for me and I'll be looking forward to attending UW. I don't care too much about what people say about the girls/social life in UW.

Another question, how is UW's rugby team? Does the team get a lot of interest, how well does the team perform and etc.

Well, it's not really what people do around you... it is what the general consensus is, right?

You need to be careful though... co-op isn't the magical thing they tout it as. The math faculty claims employment in the high 90s... in reality, by the end of term, only 50% of them have jobs. Furthermore, there are many awful jobs that artificially push up this co-op figure.

I looked around on the job postings and I see daycare positions, lifeguarding jobs, painting jobs... basically, don't think that everyone lucks out and finds a real job with a decent salary... It's awful how you only find this stuff out by logging into a password protected site...

Social life at UW is decent - you meet the right people and you can go out most nights... but it is a bit tame compared to other schools. Imo, our arts faculty isn't that bad... if you were an engineering/math major... then you would need to panic.

Still, there are good looking people at UW... you just need to get them within the first week or two of classes or they'll be taken.

UW's sports teams don't really get much attention from what I've seen... from what I have seen, people are pretty apathetic to the teams...

[Adage]

I looked around on the job postings and I see daycare positions, lifeguarding jobs, painting jobs... basically, don't think that everyone lucks out and finds a real job with a decent salary... It's awful how you only find this stuff out by logging into a password protected site...

It's true that those jobs exist, but there's no reason why you can't apply to the plethora of significantly better jobs. I also find it disheatening that the university has to inflate the statistics when it comes to job hunting. It IS true that job rates go into 90 percent, but some programs/some years, there's a huge dip in those rates and even then there are lots of students with 80+ marks and still not finding jobs WAY into summer. I personally know several people who, although have great marks with 80+ averages, still don't have jobs.

BUT! I have a friend who had a low 60s average and yet still managed to get a job in the first round. So to be honest, it is totally up to the individual to get a good job.

If you can't find a job, it's because of 3 possible reasons: 1) Bad marks [If you're in the 50s, good luck with getting an interview] 2) Terrible resume [Marks won't help if your resume is blank and you're just a bookworm] or 3) Interviews didn't go well (In this case, it's probably where the majority of people have the most difficulty)

[alv077]

Oh right... I got so caught up in the "I can't believe crap like that is on jobmine" that I forgot to mention the good jobs.

There ARE good jobs on it... I think the trick is to apply for jobs far away from the GTA - you see those jobs get over 200 applications... craziness...

I know some first year students that have gotten jobs at the university as research assistants, some that have been sent to Eastern Canada as a code monkey (apparently, he served more coffee though... but what do you expect from a guy who finished ONE term).

Our co-op system IS good - but I'm just here to say that numbers are inflated by crappy jobs... again, the co-op department actually told one of my friends that it doesn't matter if the job isn't related to her major... major bs. However, it is partially her fault that she did not go to the many employer sessions that happen almost every day at the school...

[Jon Lai]

Still, there are good looking people at UW... you just need to get them within the first week or two of classes or they'll be taken.

Lol!?
So we gotta mark our territory the moment we're in? :P

[funzone36]

I got a question. How hard is Waterloo's honours physical science program?

[aznboiz]

Got into systems design engineering. Does anyone have more information on it. Probably comparing it to computer engineering or mechanical. Encrypter, are u planning to go into systems design engineering too?

[alv077]

Lol!?
So we gotta mark our territory the moment we're in? :P

That's the advice I was given right before I went there by a few (now) alumni...

[encrypter]

Aznboiz, I've already accepted my offer and I'm not looking back :D

Systems is the broadest of all the engineering disciplines offered at UW. It encompasses mechanical, electrical, and software engineering. Mechatronics is quite similar, however that is more focused on control theory and robotics automation. Systems is more focused on human interaction with devices. If you check out their department website, you'll get a ton of information.

I'd recommend going to the open house on the 24th if you can make it, if you're not entirely convinced. When i went last year for the fall open house the students and faculty staff were very friendly and willing to answer all of my questions.

[encrypter]

Btw, I was trying to make my account for Waterloo's Admitted Students forum, but I wasn't able to do so...I pasted both my UW id and OUAC id from my acceptance email, but it just kept saying to "Please enter a vaild UW ID/OUAC ID combination."

Any ideas? I was going to call them but I just realised their offices close at 4:30

[alv077]

Btw, I was trying to make my account for Waterloo's Admitted Students forum, but I wasn't able to do so...I pasted both my UW id and OUAC id from my acceptance email, but it just kept saying to "Please enter a vaild UW ID/OUAC ID combination."

Any ideas? I was going to call them but I just realised their offices close at 4:30

Look around on the boards - there is someone you email to get it set up.

It happens EVERY YEAR. You would think that a school known for CS wouldn't have problems like this but nooo...

[aznboiz]

Yea, i read the systems design department website. But since only Waterloo offers this program, i was wondering y it was so special and yet not as many people apply to it. Honestly, i have never heard of it before getting the offer. Most likely will go there. If u dont mind encrypter, wanna pm me ur name and what school u go to right now? Just wanna make a friend lol. Im no stalker or anything.

[encrypter]

Ahh stupid me:

If you are having issues registering, here are a couple of tips:

1) You will not be able to register until you receive the forum invite via email. The invite is sent to the email address you provided us with when you applied to UW. This invite goes out once a week, usually around Tuesdays.
2) Check your spam folder to ensure the invite email didn't go in there.
3) Use your UW id and OUAC id as they appear in the email, do not add/remove any characters.
4) You must click a link in a confirmation email in order to complete the registration process. Again, if you can not find the email, check your spam folder.

If all that fails, email me at jwgoertz@uwaterloo.ca, and in the subject line, add this: [Forum registration problems] and I will get back to you as soon as I can. Keep the square brackets in there, my filters look for them so I can get back to you quicker. Be as specific as you can when describing your problems.

Jaymis Goertz, Administrator
Marketing and Undergraduate Recruitment
University of Waterloo

...so that means I'll have to wait until tmrw...

[astraea]

So does UW current students do courtesy calls to prospective students?

[alv077]

So does UW current students do courtesy calls to prospective students?

Depends.

I have been called exclusively by professors but I would imagine that they also use students

[aznboiz]

Does anyone know the minimum mark i have to maintain before my conditional offer gets declined for engineering?

[encrypter]

7.5x10^1 %

[babaji]

Did anyone else get a call from UWaterloo? I apparently got one, but wasn't home to answer it.

[Jon Lai]

Did anyone else get a call from UWaterloo? I apparently got one, but wasn't home to answer it.

I got one from the Math Faculty yesterday but not from the Engineering faculty.

[Dark-Colonel]

No I have not received a call, but it is surely taking them a long time to send me the admissions envelope.

I'm most likely going to Waterloo for Sept, only thing thats keeping me from accepting the offer is my visit to the Waterloo campus. I need to see what I would be getting into, although I have heard that it has a great campus.

[civ@uw]

I need to see what I would be getting into, although I have heard that it has a great campus.

It's nice during the Spring and Fall terms, but hideous and depressing the rest of the year.

[astraea]

Did anyone else get a call from UWaterloo? I apparently got one, but wasn't home to answer it.

I got a call; but to my disappointment, it was neither an upper-year student nor a professor-- just a "representative". She kindly asked me if I had any questions and I was caught off-guard so I just asked her why she thinks I should go to Waterloo and she replies with "Oh. Well-- because it's the best university in the WORLD". And I just chuckled and said "Is it really?" ;)

Hope to see some of you guys next year!
In the "best university in the world".
My program is
COMPUTER SCIENCE, co-op

edit:
I visited the campus a couple of days ago and took pictures ;) send me a message if you'd like to see them.

[alv077]

It's nice during the Spring and Fall terms, but hideous and depressing the rest of the year.

It may look nice during the spring/fall terms, but when it looks nice, it also smells like geese.

That, and the ground is completely covered with goose poop to the extent where you give up walking around it.

[Dark-Colonel]

It may look nice during the spring/fall terms, but when it looks nice, it also smells like geese.

That, and the ground is completely covered with goose poop to the extent where you give up walking around it.

Hahah I can sorta see where your profile picture and signature came from.

Dang so those pictures of students lying and having fun on grass are all lies!

[alv077]

Hahah I can sorta see where your profile picture and signature came from.

Dang so those pictures of students lying and having fun on grass are all lies!

Complete and total lies. They were probably pecked half to death by the geese and fainted... photoshop made it look like they were smiling. No kidding, I've heard that a student was sent to the hospital after being pecked on the forehead by a goose. Apparently, they get anal about personal space during the Spring.

... The problem is that they like to hang around the 1.5ish meter wide walkway from campus to v1 and the even narrower path from v1 to rev.

One day in gooseland, I was walking to rev (wanted to get rev-food which is better than v1 food) and a goose in front of the path stared me in the eye and HISSED at me. I didn't even know geese could hiss. That was creepy as hell. I turned around and went to Mel's for a burger instead.

Here is a picture I toke of the evil geese from a distance.
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3375/31082007029nd1.jpg

A picture of why my brother calls me a "fatass" now
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1036/24112007160cs7.jpg

[cadave]

Complete and total lies. They were probably pecked half to death by the geese and fainted... photoshop made it look like they were smiling. No kidding, I've heard that a student was sent to the hospital after being pecked on the forehead by a goose. Apparently, they get anal about personal space during the Spring.

... The problem is that they like to hang around the 1.5ish meter wide walkway from campus to v1 and the even narrower path from v1 to rev.

One day in gooseland, I was walking to rev (wanted to get rev-food which is better than v1 food) and a goose in front of the path stared me in the eye and HISSED at me. I didn't even know geese could hiss. That was creepy as hell. I turned around and went to Mel's for a burger instead.

Here is a picture I toke of the evil geese from a distance.
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3375/31082007029nd1.jpg

A picture of why my brother calls me a "fatass" now
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1036/24112007160cs7.jpg

damn man that burger is bigger than YOU. lol
Is that the Easy Rider at Mel's? hmm... maybe not.

And the Geese aren't that bad... just be nice to them and they'll be nice back :)

[alv077]

damn man that burger is bigger than YOU. lol
Is that the Easy Rider at Mel's? hmm... maybe not.

And the Geese aren't that bad... just be nice to them and they'll be nice back :)

Nope... that's the biggest burger on the menu but it's a great deal imo. If I WANTED to, I could share it with 4 people and we'd all be filled up on the burger alone. The fries came free and toppings on the burger were 50 cents each.

I figured, average burger there w/o fries is like 7ish bucks, I'd be an idiot NOT to eat this. Besides that, toppings for 50 cents is plain awesome. In hindsight, I should have thrown cheese and bacon in this thing too...

Anyone want to go try the grill's giant burger? You have to phone in a day in advance there... kinda sucks... but their normal sized burgers are so good... and they take watcard too *cough*parentsmoney*cough*

God... speaking of UW food, I miss spicy chicken wraps and those plaza gyros so much... andand v1 pizza. I LOVE v1 pizza. All I have at home is crappy delicico(sp?) pizza... and my attempts at making a spicy chicken wrap at home completely failed.


>< next time you see a goose, look into its eyes. you can see pure hate in them =/

[rems]

It may look nice during the spring/fall terms, but when it looks nice, it also smells like geese.

That, and the ground is completely covered with goose poop to the extent where you give up walking around it.

+1 The smell is really noticeable in the summer

[babaji]

The fries came free and toppings on the burger were 50 cents each.

Are you kidding me 50 cents per topping? That's ridiculous, they should be free!

[encrypter]

Right now I'm having a hard time deciding between V1 and UWP for res. I can't choose any of the others this year cause those are restricted for stream 8 programs. Anyone have any thoughts? I've heard v1 is a decent residence, has "decent" caf food, and have parties much more often than uwp. However, I like the fact that uwp is adjacent to the eng buildings, It'll be great for the cold winter months, and having suite style single rooms is something I like, for the added privacy.

Anyone mind giving me their opinion? I'm going to see them at the open house next week, just want to get an idea before I go.

Thanks

[alv077]

Are you kidding me 50 cents per topping? That's ridiculous, they should be free!

Bleh, life isn't fair =T


Right now I'm having a hard time deciding between V1 and UWP for res. I can't choose any of the others this year cause those are restricted for stream 8 programs. Anyone have any thoughts? I've heard v1 is a decent residence, has "decent" caf food, and have parties much more often than uwp. However, I like the fact that uwp is adjacent to the eng buildings, It'll be great for the cold winter months, and having suite style single rooms is something I like, for the added privacy.

Anyone mind giving me their opinion? I'm going to see them at the open house next week, just want to get an idea before I go.

Thanks

You don't really want privacy. Go for v1. Caf food isn't bad - you'll never get sick of spicy chicken wraps and the pizza.

When it comes down to it, you're not really THAT much closer to the engineering building. There is a good chance you'll wind up at Beck Hall which is a complete pain to get to main campus from.

[jason_3108]

need HELP from waterloo math students..
i got accepted to pure math co-op and i need a 70% to switch to math/bus in the second year. How difficult is it to get 70% avg in first year (courses listed below)?
Also, lets say i cannot switch to math/bus due to whatever reasons (avg not high enough, no space). what other options do i have (i want to go to business, which is my real interest)?

BUS 111W Introduction to Business Organization
BUS 121W Functional Areas of the Organization
ECON 101 Introduction to Microeconomics
ECON 102 Introduction to Macroeconomics
MATH 135/145 Algebra
MATH 136/146 Linear Algebra 1
MATH 137/147 Calculus 1
MATH 138/148 Calculus 2
2 CS core courses

Thanks

[anycee]

70 isn't difficult. 70 is below average for most of those courses.

Getting a 70 in the first four should be very easy.
Math depends more on ability - but 70 is still easy if you do the practice problems (>75% of the problems on first year math exams will be small variations of problems from assignments).
CS could trip you up - it can be hard for a lot of people.

The other option I could think of would be to switch to business at WLU or another university, but you won't be able to do that with <70% either. Or, if you do better than expected and get a low 80s average, you could look into transfering into double degree (i don't know the minimum requirement).

[alv077]

need HELP from waterloo math students..
i got accepted to pure math co-op and i need a 70% to switch to math/bus in the second year. How difficult is it to get 70% avg in first year (courses listed below)?
Also, lets say i cannot switch to math/bus due to whatever reasons (avg not high enough, no space). what other options do i have (i want to go to business, which is my real interest)?

BUS 111W Introduction to Business Organization
BUS 121W Functional Areas of the Organization
ECON 101 Introduction to Microeconomics
ECON 102 Introduction to Macroeconomics
MATH 135/145 Algebra
MATH 136/146 Linear Algebra 1
MATH 137/147 Calculus 1
MATH 138/148 Calculus 2
2 CS core courses

If you have marks, you can go into...

math/CA, not necessarily business... but good enough

teaching option, you get to escape goose-poop land and spent a term at Queens. I went to the info seminar for this one and it seemed pretty easy to get into

actuarial Science

but the best for last - computing and financial management. take a look and see if you're interested. imo, one of the best programs in the math faculty... you can work for companies in the financial industries AND google. I'd LOVE to work for google...

*edit* you stinky mathies got your mathie chant stuck in my head...


Sine Sine Cosine Sine
Three point one four one five nine

[ak47num1]

I am looking for a room for Sept 08 to Aug 09. Just wondering whether I can get a clean, furnished bedroom in a house no more than 4 for around $400 - $450?

Thanks for any advice! Distance from UW is also a problem for me :(

[rems]

I am looking for a room for Sept 08 to Aug 09. Just wondering whether I can get a clean, furnished bedroom in a house no more than 4 for around $400 - $450?

Thanks for any advice! Distance from UW is also a problem for me :(

try http://www.och.uwaterloo.ca/

[ak47num1]

try http://www.och.uwaterloo.ca/

Thanks! I have been trying that. Just wondering what the experience of students here had.

[erikaerika]

hey everyone ...I'm going to waterloo in the fall and will most likely be living in v1 as that's where my llc is at...anyways what I wanna know is that..although we're prohibited from smoking..but If I do smoke in my room..will the smoke detector detect it?

[cadave]

hey everyone ...I'm going to waterloo in the fall and will most likely be living in v1 as that's where my llc is at...anyways what I wanna know is that..although we're prohibited from smoking..but If I do smoke in my room..will the smoke detector detect it?

yes. don't do it. your house members will be very angry with you when they have to evacuate because the fire alarms went off. The fire department won't be too happy either.

[babaji]

isn't there like.. some sort of window in each room? (not that i smoke, i'm just curious)

[alv077]

hey everyone ...I'm going to waterloo in the fall and will most likely be living in v1 as that's where my llc is at...anyways what I wanna know is that..although we're prohibited from smoking..but If I do smoke in my room..will the smoke detector detect it?

It is a heat/smoke detector. It will likely catch you. Besides that, you will leave a strong smell and the cleaning lady comes every week.

Just go outside.


isn't there like.. some sort of window in each room? (not that i smoke, i'm just curious)

Yep, a window if you want to call it that. Really small though

[Dark-Colonel]

I got REV :D Heard its the best one to be in.

Anyway, a question regarding admissions. I've been accepted into an honours co-op program (which means my average is above 80).

My conditions are that I can't go below 75 (highly unlikely) but what is likely is my mark dropping into the high 70s, I've just recently received mark updates and two out of my top 6 are floating around 78 with a 3rd one being right on 80.

Would my honours co-op offer be withdrawn and be counter offered by a regular non hours and non coop course because I dropped from a 82.5 average down to maybe like a 79 or something?

I'm positive that I can pull my marks back up to the 80s again, I just lost focus right after admissions and that kinda screwed me over by mediocre test and assignment results. I think that if I would be at 78 or 79 I could ask my teachers for a bump to an 80 but I'm just a bit concerned right now (exams are still left, those can definitely help).

[73142]

hey everyone ...I'm going to waterloo in the fall and will most likely be living in v1 as that's where my llc is at...anyways what I wanna know is that..although we're prohibited from smoking..but If I do smoke in my room..will the smoke detector detect it?

yes, that is what it is for

[Adage]

I got REV :D Heard its the best one to be in.

Anyway, a question regarding admissions. I've been accepted into an honours co-op program (which means my average is above 80).

My conditions are that I can't go below 75 (highly unlikely) but what is likely is my mark dropping into the high 70s, I've just recently received mark updates and two out of my top 6 are floating around 78 with a 3rd one being right on 80.

Would my honours co-op offer be withdrawn and be counter offered by a regular non hours and non coop course because I dropped from a 82.5 average down to maybe like a 79 or something?

I'm positive that I can pull my marks back up to the 80s again, I just lost focus right after admissions and that kinda screwed me over by mediocre test and assignment results. I think that if I would be at 78 or 79 I could ask my teachers for a bump to an 80 but I'm just a bit concerned right now (exams are still left, those can definitely help).

An honours program actually means that you are studying for 4 years instead of 3 years like a general program. Although in Waterloo's case it would mean 5 instead of 4.

[erikaerika]

yes, that is what it is for


what about uw place or mkv...since they have kitchens

[chauchau]

An honours program actually means that you are studying for 4 years instead of 3 years like a general program. Although in Waterloo's case it would mean 5 instead of 4.

Most general are 4 years.


But!

Currently on coop term in Arts&Business (Psych & HRM)
Starting 2A in Fall :)

[Inspire08]

Currently on coop term in Arts&Business (Psych & HRM)
Starting 2A in Fall :)

Hey, I'm thinking of taking a lot of electives in either psych or HRM! Since ur taking courses in both areas, which one do u like better and why?

[chauchau]

Hey, I'm thinking of taking a lot of electives in either psych or HRM! Since ur taking courses in both areas, which one do u like better and why?

Well I haven't taken HRM 200 yet, a lot of my upper year friends say it's decent and as well easy.

As for psychs, I've taken three so far. For me, the prof really makes or breaks the course but I've experienced two interesting teachers and one really dull teacher that's teaching the "it" course to take in psych.

The upper year psych courses are the ones i'm excited to take, but it's been awesome so far.

0 HRM courses vs. 3 Psych, I think psych automatically wins although in upper years, I have to take psych courses related around HRM. So they go hand in hand.

[meh_33333]

i have a few electives and wanted to take some easy courses that would boost my average... does anyone have any recommendations?

[alv077]

i have a few electives and wanted to take some easy courses that would boost my average... does anyone have any recommendations?

Not Soc.

AFM 131 would be your best bet. If you can do a group hug, you'll do fine.

[cadave]

i have a few electives and wanted to take some easy courses that would boost my average... does anyone have any recommendations?

ARTS 301
HRM 200
CS 100 (if eligible)

[Zayxic]

ARTS 301
HRM 200
CS 100 (if eligible)

LOL David... =P

+1 for his selection...

[chauchau]

ARTS 301
HRM 200
CS 100 (if eligible)

Definitely +1

[Crimzaelus]

Try ECON courses too.

[ASharp]

If you know computers well then CS 100 is the easiest course I think you could ever take. I also took ECON 101 and 102 DE and they were both pretty easy too.

[meh_33333]

any more suggestions? thanks for the ones provided

[chauchau]

FR 151 DE is pretty. Granted you just pass the exam, guaranteed 75+

[enginear]

ECON101 DE hands down. 85% bell curved to 97%. Wikipedia for all midterms, study 6 hours before the final.

[alv077]

You're lucky.

I decided to pay attention in lectures and try to learn like that. Didn't go so well. Guess who I had for econ101 Fall 07?

[spazzamatic]

You're lucky.

I decided to pay attention in lectures and try to learn like that. Didn't go so well. Guess who I had for econ101 Fall 07?


LARRY SMITH ?

best teacher in the world =D i almost aced the course LOL puahahha

[alv077]

Haha. I WISH I got Larry Smith for 101 as well. (Had him for 102)

Not only did I ace all his tests, his lectures actually had a fun campy feel to them.

[Zayxic]

You're lucky.

I decided to pay attention in lectures and try to learn like that. Didn't go so well. Guess who I had for econ101 Fall 07?

Trimarchi??? =P

(She ruined econ for me... :cry: )

[alv077]

:P We have a winner

I hate her so so much. I read the textbook before classes... and everything makes sense... then I step into the lecture and get all confused.

[spazzamatic]

:P We have a winner

I hate her so so much. I read the textbook before classes... and everything makes sense... then I step into the lecture and get all confused.


HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLL

[spazzamatic]

:P We have a winner

I hate her so so much. I read the textbook before classes... and everything makes sense... then I step into the lecture and get all confused.

i had eva lau .. she was horrible.

everytime she tried saying .. SHIFT on the BUDGET line

we all hear.

**** ON THE BUDGET LINE =|

[Crimzaelus]

i had eva lau .. she was horrible.

everytime she tried saying .. SHIFT on the BUDGET line

we all hear.

**** ON THE BUDGET LINE =|

lollll

[digggthat]

i thot CO 350 was an easy course..and now im getting nailed

[akirika]

where can i find the class average/program average/course average for certain years

[alv077]

By asking around...

Generally speaking 65 - 70 unless you end up in one of the arts classes that they block enroll AFM into. Then the average shoots up 7+% for the section and make any chance of the prof bumping marks up nill.

=T *whines*

[Batman.]

http://strobe.uwaterloo.ca/urp/forum2007/register.php

i cant seem to be able to register for their forum. It says my UW ID is incorrect. I am looking at the 8 digit number as my UW ID right?

[alv077]

Yep.

I see they havent fixed that yet... however, you seem to be trying to register for LAST year's forum. On the bright side, that was the best year.

[Dark-Colonel]

http://strobe.uwaterloo.ca/urp/forum2007/register.php

i cant seem to be able to register for their forum. It says my UW ID is incorrect. I am looking at the 8 digit number as my UW ID right?

Give this link a try ;)

http://strobe.uwaterloo.ca/urp/forum2008/index.php

We are in 2008 are we not :D

[Dark-Colonel]

Yep.

I see they havent fixed that yet... however, you seem to be trying to register for LAST year's forum. On the bright side, that was the best year.

how so? the forum or the school year itself?

[Batman.]

oh wow, thanks guys

[alv077]

how so? the forum or the school year itself?

The year itself, of course.

:D All the goose-hating topics were great

[Inzi]

http://strobe.uwaterloo.ca/urp/forum2007/register.php

i cant seem to be able to register for their forum. It says my UW ID is incorrect. I am looking at the 8 digit number as my UW ID right?

Actually that 8 digit number is your student number, you UW ID is the
<first letter of your first name><possibly a number><the first four letters of your last name>
for example j3chen.

[fred2028]

Going into mechatronics engineering for year 1 September 2008 ... Staying in UWP like every other Asian. Anyone have any tips or comments on this program/rez?

[Crimzaelus]

Going into mechatronics engineering for year 1 September 2008 ... Staying in UWP like every other Asian. Anyone have any tips or comments on this program/rez?

good luck :lol:

[phyrefly]

Going into mechatronics engineering for year 1 September 2008 ... Staying in UWP like every other Asian. Anyone have any tips or comments on this program/rez?

Consider yourself very lucky :p

[havoks]

where can i find the class average/program average/course average for certain years

http://marks.summerhilldesign.com/

[phyrefly]

http://marks.summerhilldesign.com/

WOW. Very interesting.

Do you know where the data was mined from? Time to take some DUTCH, RUSS and CHINA courses :D

[fred2028]

Consider yourself very lucky :p

Why lucky and why wish me luck (previous poster) lol? Am I in for the biggest nerd year in history?

[anycee]

http://marks.summerhilldesign.com/

interesting.
It also seems to match http://economics.ca/cgi/jab?journal=cpp&view=v26n3/CPPv26n3p361.pdf (table 1 on page 3) fairly well.

[phyrefly]

Why lucky and why wish me luck (previous poster) lol? Am I in for the biggest nerd year in history?

That you can actually live in a decent place instead of REV or V1... plus you don't have to buy that awful mealplan.

[fred2028]

That you can actually live in a decent place instead of REV or V1... plus you don't have to buy that awful mealplan.

Oh is it really that bad? I bought The Best Buy meal plan ... How about the courseload?

[Inzi]

I lived at UWP for my first year. It's close to Caesars and Martini's so it gets loud there Thursday nights and weekends. Also don't expect your hallways/elevator/stairwell to be kept clean. Someone puked in my stairwell and it took 2 weeks for someone to clean it. :(

Cafe food sucks it's better to cook your own meals, why would you live at UWP and have a mean plan? Your suite has a kitchen in it.

[alv077]

What's with the meal plan hating?

I like spicy chicken wraps and the pizza...

[chauchau]

I lived at UWP for my first year. It's close to Caesars and Martini's so it gets loud there Thursday nights and weekends. Also don't expect your hallways/elevator/stairwell to be kept clean. Someone puked in my stairwell and it took 2 weeks for someone to clean it. :(

Cafe food sucks it's better to cook your own meals, why would you live at UWP and have a mean plan? Your suite has a kitchen in it.

It's not that loud that it'll affect them.

But yes as for Thursday, depending on the rest of your floor, it can get a little bit rowdy and loud. Just hope for no false fire alarms. We had 3 or 4 pulled the first 2 weeks. Heck I even slept right through one!

[Inzi]

Lol they have a fire drill in the first week. They really shouldn't tell anyone because no one in my building even cared to leave their rooms. Fire alarms also get pulled during exams.

[Dark-Colonel]

Should we bring a printer to res? I know there are printers and scanners available for students but is it a hassle doing the printing and etc?

I'm just wondering if I should bring my own printer.

[cadave]

Should we bring a printer to res? I know there are printers and scanners available for students but is it a hassle doing the printing and etc?

I'm just wondering if I should bring my own printer.

Yes. Bring a printer. Depending on your program, I may even suggest a small compact laser.

My program typically teaches using powerpoints so I gotta print out a couple pages each lecture.... went through ink cartridges really quick in first year until I finally made the jump over to laser.

[andrew2good4u]

Should we bring a printer to res? I know there are printers and scanners available for students but is it a hassle doing the printing and etc?

I'm just wondering if I should bring my own printer.

bring your own printer for sure

[rems]

Should we bring a printer to res? I know there are printers and scanners available for students but is it a hassle doing the printing and etc?

I'm just wondering if I should bring my own printer.

My friends figured out a way to print for free in the Math building :-P

[icebird144]

My friends figured out a way to print for free in the Math building :-P

How? I'm curious to know :P

[rems]

How? I'm curious to know :P

lol I graduated in 2005 so I don't know if they fixed it already.
But back then you didn't have to pay for printing something you didn't want to print ;-)

[Dark-Colonel]

Yes. Bring a printer. Depending on your program, I may even suggest a small compact laser.

My program typically teaches using powerpoints so I gotta print out a couple pages each lecture.... went through ink cartridges really quick in first year until I finally made the jump over to laser.

Ah super! Thanks for the advice I am actually in the deal of buying a Samsung ML-2010 laser printer.

[jogns]

i was wondering if someone would inform me about first day of classes. i live 5 mins from uwaterloo and am going to be getting back home sept 4th, so i decided to skip orientation week....which i heard is more geared towards on-campus residence. i think this information may be provided in orientation week so i will ask someone who know. i wanted to know what class do we attend first..my schedule has a tutorial at 8:30 rather then a lecture, it is followed by another tutorial at 10:30....do i need to go to those tutorials or should i attend the lectures starting at 12:30? seeing as tutorial should help with what we learned in the lectures, it makes sense to me to go to the lectures first...or is that where the information is handed out?

[OttawaPete]

anyone want to sell a double bed for sept 1st ish... will buy at waterloo.

Lemme know
pete

[phyrefly]

i was wondering if someone would inform me about first day of classes. i live 5 mins from uwaterloo and am going to be getting back home sept 4th, so i decided to skip orientation week....which i heard is more geared towards on-campus residence. i think this information may be provided in orientation week so i will ask someone who know. i wanted to know what class do we attend first..my schedule has a tutorial at 8:30 rather then a lecture, it is followed by another tutorial at 10:30....do i need to go to those tutorials or should i attend the lectures starting at 12:30? seeing as tutorial should help with what we learned in the lectures, it makes sense to me to go to the lectures first...or is that where the information is handed out?

There usually aren't any tutorials for the first week. Check ACE or the individual course websites.

[jogns]

There usually aren't any tutorials for the first week. Check ACE or the individual course websites.

thanks alot. so i will just attend the lectures as my first class and then i will gather information as i go.

[ceraf]

Ah super! Thanks for the advice I am actually in the deal of buying a Samsung ML-2010 laser printer.

Depending on your program, you may not even need a printer. I know in ECE, most assignments are submitted online or handwritten. If you need to print something, the computer labs would do (i rarely needed to print).

[divx]

A printer is useful, a lot courses have pdf notes, while you could read them off the monitor but I find it easier to print it.

[alv077]

Depending on your prof, you may end up with 40 pages per lecture (3 slides/page). Very annoying.

Get extra toner before you go in.

[manho]

don't skip orientation week. go make some frds. u'll need it. the activities might sound really cheesy and all. but nonetheless its a memorable time. definitely a time that i look back and was glad tat i went.

and ya. definitely bring a laser printer. my HP laserjet 1010 has served me well. printing 20 pages report in just matter of seconds (and doesn't smudges like inkjet.. more professional)

[Dark-Colonel]

Yeah I am going to Orientation, just in case you guys would want to know what we are going to be doing:

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1589/uworientation2008xz9.th.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uworientation2008xz9.jpg)

[havoks]

Yeah I am going to Orientation, just in case you guys would want to know what we are going to be doing:

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1589/uworientation2008xz9.th.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uworientation2008xz9.jpg)

It's a shame that they made "through thick and thin" sound like it'd be interesting -- except it's just a campus tour (of student services). Be sure not to miss Single & Sexy though.

"Under the sea" should be interesting but i'm not looking forward to the cleanup.

[manho]

i heard monte carlo is always fun (i missed my own)

oh. don't miss the play on sex ed. I think it's called Single and Sexy or something. Absolutely hilarious.

[Jon Lai]

There usually aren't any tutorials for the first week. Check ACE or the individual course websites.

So what happens during the time slots alloted for Tutorials? My first class on Monday is also a tutorial.. but I suppose I might as well attend for the heck of it anyways and get to know some people...

[jogns]

i was looking at the textbooks for math courses 115/117....

and i have linear algebra the 3rd edition....but they have the 5th edition now...my uncle gave it to me....is there a significant difference or can i use that.

he also gave me two calculus textbooks....Calculus 5th ed by stewart and calculus a new horizon by howard anton....they seem like great books with a lot of material...can i use these and save money? things like assignment questions i probably can get from friends....or is it absolutely necessary i get the text book they ask for?

[ceraf]

i was looking at the textbooks for math courses 115/117....

and i have linear algebra the 3rd edition....but they have the 5th edition now...my uncle gave it to me....is there a significant difference or can i use that.

he also gave me two calculus textbooks....Calculus 5th ed by stewart and calculus a new horizon by howard anton....they seem like great books with a lot of material...can i use these and save money? things like assignment questions i probably can get from friends....or is it absolutely necessary i get the text book they ask for?

it's usually best to get the textbooks they ask for, since they may pull some assignment questions (if not all) from there.

The linear alg book...hang on to it and check if the questions are the same as the new edition. If not, you'll probably see it in the used book store or on the bst textbooks forum.

as for math 117...is that the MEM and AMEM textbooks? those will be used for other calc courses as well.

[BlueHurley]

Warning to all people considering Waterloo:

You have no doubt heard that it is the geek/asian/ugly chick centre of the planet. Don't believe what you've heard; it's actually far worse than that. Let's break down the three aforementioned demographics:

1. Geek - Do you remember that kid in your math class in high school that played dungeons and dragons, wore the pocket protector proudly, and had his underwear pulled over his head so often that he has skid marks on his forehead? Yeah, him and 2,000 of his online buddies are what UW refers to as "the Math faculty". Honestly, everybody who survives UW Math is a genius. It's almost an a priori truth. However, each and every one is the most socially awkward, intraverted, geek/dweeb/spazz you will ever meet. As a manager, they're great to hire because you know they'll never have the social capacity to take over your job, but they'll work damn hard for you, and if you ever need a question answered, they'll answer it - even if the question has to do with mages and wizardry.

2. Asian - For God's sake, they nicknamed the school Waterwoo. I'm certain that nearly a quarter of the school is Asian. Not saying that's a bad thing - just pointing out a clear demographic. You will be able to analyze the different grades of sushi by the time you graduate. You'll also be able to order in Cantonese by the time you graduate. Interestingly enough, most of the restaurants in the area allow you to order in Cantonese. Yes, it really is that Asian.

3. Ugly girl - Man. As a horny 19 year old, I was so ready to be ankle deep in va-jay-jay when I left home. First time away from the parents, so looking to partying and getting some. The women I met were so ugly, it makes you question reality. Buck teeth so far out of their head that they couldn't close their mouth. Really, are you supposed to have a mole that big on your face? Isn't that melanoma? Women who had more chins than the school phonebook (see how I tied that joke into #2). Women who I thought were men - for the first two years of school. Chicks who were severe burn victims. That's how ugly we're talking. Prep yourself for basically four years of self-love. You might score on an out-of-town girl, who came to visit her homely friend. Or, do what we did - walk up the street to Laurier where there was some distinct heat.

That's what you're going to get when you go to H20-LO2. And anybody that's been in the last 10 years can back me up - they didn't just live up to the myths, they shattered them in just how stereotypical the university is.
Pretty much, it really is this bad. Some of the gooses and their sh*t look better than the girls.

[BlueHurley]

Also, why is there a 48 page thread on UW, but no other universities even come close? I didn't realize UW was that popular.

[civ@uw]

Anyone know if the Fedbus will be running this week (for Sept. 5)? Also, do they stop you from buying tickets if you're on a work term, or do they not even check that?

[Jon Lai]

Anyone know if the Fedbus will be running this week (for Sept. 5)? Also, do they stop you from buying tickets if you're on a work term, or do they not even check that?

Where do you buy the tickets and when how early should you buy them so that they're not all sold out?

How many buses run each Friday night and what are the times they leave?

[civ@uw]

Where do you buy the tickets and when how early should you buy them so that they're not all sold out?

How many buses run each Friday night and what are the times they leave?

You can buy online or at the Feds convenience store in the SLC. You're guaranteed a ticket until Wednesday, and after that they won't schedule extra buses. I've been able to get tickets just a few hours before the bus departed though. In the fall and winter, you get two departure times from Waterloo; one around noon, and the other later in the afternoon at around 4:00. More info here:

http://businessesandservices.feds.ca/fed_bus

It hasn't been updated with info for the Fall term yet, which I was asking about it here.

[Dark-Colonel]

Well I'm pretty much set to move out with only one worry left.

I have no clue on how to protect my laptop. What do you guys reckon about those laptop table locks? Are they decent enough to keep your laptop safe for a quick washroom break for example (I know that I can store my laptop in my closet at night with a lock).

[BlueHurley]

Well I'm pretty much set to move out with only one worry left.

I have no clue on how to protect my laptop. What do you guys reckon about those laptop table locks? Are they decent enough to keep your laptop safe for a quick washroom break for example (I know that I can store my laptop in my closet at night with a lock).

whats your major?

[divx]

Well I'm pretty much set to move out with only one worry left.

I have no clue on how to protect my laptop. What do you guys reckon about those laptop table locks? Are they decent enough to keep your laptop safe for a quick washroom break for example (I know that I can store my laptop in my closet at night with a lock).

Never used my laptop lock, ever had a problem. It is safe to leave in your room, and in school, carry it with you when you goto washroom or have a friend watch it for you.

[Jon Lai]

You can buy online or at the Feds convenience store in the SLC. You're guaranteed a ticket until Wednesday, and after that they won't schedule extra buses. I've been able to get tickets just a few hours before the bus departed though. In the fall and winter, you get two departure times from Waterloo; one around noon, and the other later in the afternoon at around 4:00. More info here:

http://businessesandservices.feds.ca/fed_bus

It hasn't been updated with info for the Fall term yet, which I was asking about it here.

Thanks for the info.. how do Engineers manage to get on the bus? My last class on Friday ends at 4:30...

[Dark-Colonel]

Never used my laptop lock, ever had a problem. It is safe to leave in your room, and in school, carry it with you when you goto washroom or have a friend watch it for you.

I'll be staying at REV for Arts & Business.

Yeah I figured it would be safe enough. I would have this thing with me pretty much all the time except for going to the washroom and etc.

Yeah I guess I'm just a bit too worried about it. Its my first self bought laptop and I'd be having a PMS for the rest of my life if someone stole the laptop I worked for many months folding shirts during my weekends :evil:

[anycee]

I would say you should definately lock your laptop when you are away from it. This is more important in say DP, and less so in your res room.

Most laptop locks can be pulled off pretty easily, but they are enough to deter oppurtunistic theft.

[mallik]

I was wondering, what's the best way to get from Kitchener/Waterloo to Toronto if I have to leave at night on Wednesday?

I have a class on Wednesday from 7:00-10:00pm and the last Greyhound leaves from Kitchener at 10:10pm. I can make it if I leave class early but it's still tight, and I was wondering if I can't leave early, or miss the GRT, or for another reason I can't make the 10:10 Greyhound, what other options there are.

[TerenceL]

I was wondering, what's the best way to get from Kitchener/Waterloo to Toronto if I have to leave at night on Wednesday?

I have a class on Wednesday from 7:00-10:00pm and the last Greyhound leaves from Kitchener at 10:10pm. I can make it if I leave class early but it's still tight, and I was wondering if I can't leave early, or miss the GRT, or for another reason I can't make the 10:10 Greyhound, what other options there are.

You said it yourself, there aren't any buses later than 10. You should probably just leave Thursday morning...

[coolspot]

I have a class on Wednesday from 7:00-10:00pm and the last Greyhound leaves from Kitchener at 10:10pm. I can make it if I leave class early but it's still tight, and I was wondering if I can't leave early, or miss the GRT, or for another reason I can't make the 10:10 Greyhound, what other options there are.

Leave Thursday morning. What's more important - going home for the weekend or attending class?

Hmmm.


Otherwise ask your parents for a car :D

[TerenceL]

Leave Thursday morning. What's more important - going home for the weekend or attending class?

Hmmm.


Otherwise ask your parents for a car :D

Going home for the weekend :D

[ak47num1]

I submitted the promissory note on the deadline date (into the dropbox before the office closed). However, my quest account summary still shows the same balance. Does that mean my promissory note was not processed in time or something went wrong? Please advise. Thanks.

[Batman.]

What does everyone have this winter term?
off my head, I have

German 101
History and Film
American History
Canadian History
Politics and Morals

[thefleet]

I submitted the promissory note on the deadline date (into the dropbox before the office closed). However, my quest account summary still shows the same balance. Does that mean my promissory note was not processed in time or something went wrong? Please advise. Thanks.

For registered status, see if it says "fees arranged"

[havoks]

What does everyone have this winter term

SPCOM223 and work

[A]

I'm really surprised this thread is so far back, its pretty informative.

I was wondering about everyone's opinions on meal plans, which are best, yadda yadda yadda

Also, i was wondering when the physical acceptance letter actually comes in the mail? I got accepted a week or 2 ago and have received the email.

[resu]

I'm really surprised this thread is so far back, its pretty informative.

I was wondering about everyone's opinions on meal plans, which are best, yadda yadda yadda

Also, i was wondering when the physical acceptance letter actually comes in the mail? I got accepted a week or 2 ago and have received the email.

Get the smallest one (unless you like caf food). I still have $500 on my meal plan and I'm in 3A...

[alv077]

Get the smallest one (unless you like caf food). I still have $500 on my meal plan and I'm in 3A...

:D I'll buy it off you

... I love spicy chicken wraps and v1 pizza...

[babaji]

:D I'll buy it off you

... I love spicy chicken wraps and v1 pizza...

The V1 pizza is gross, man! There's so much cheese in it; I almost barfed when I had it. I agree that spicy chicken wraps are awesome though.

[tomotomo]

quick question, at waterloo can you take courses during all the terms e.g.
take study terms for spring fall and winter terms ?
thx!

[MATHEMATICS]

Which res did everyone stay at for first year? Thoughts/Suggestions/Reviews???

[trisle604]

can someone that is a waterloo student send an email to the science admissions for me?I keep trying to call and email them concerning admissions and get no where.Im assuming non waterloo email addresses get filtered out of there system as junk , which is pretty useless when the general admissions office keeps forwarding me to them with no one in the office.Obviously long distance ~

[alv077]

The V1 pizza is gross, man! There's so much cheese in it; I almost barfed when I had it. I agree that spicy chicken wraps are awesome though.

Pssh. The cheese is the best part :D

[synthtrance]

quick question, at waterloo can you take courses during all the terms e.g.
take study terms for spring fall and winter terms ?
thx!

Yes, you can, as long as the course you want is offered for that term. Proper planning is required if this is the route you take.

[chris0101]

Yes, you can, as long as the course you want is offered for that term. Proper planning is required if this is the route you take.

And be sure that there are no conflicts. The really specialized courses are often offered just once every year ... only 1 section and in some cases, only once every 2 years. :mad: It can be annoying, especially with co-op.

[Dark-Colonel]

Which res did everyone stay at for first year? Thoughts/Suggestions/Reviews???

Thread resurrection :D

I stayed at REV West A and I had a blast.

Honestly, the 8 months at REV were definitely the best time of my life.

I was lucky enough to end up on a floor were the majority of the people living on the floor were getting along.

Our doors were open all the time, we ate together, we hung out until anywhere from 1 - 3AM every night. We had 3 360s on our floor so we often got together for some Horde mode or Halo 3. In terms of on campus events, not much was happening because it was very restrictive. Luckily for me and some of my other friends, we are 19 so we managed to have a good time at the bars and the clubs in waterloo. All I can say is that any good looking girl you'll find around the bars are from Laurier ... not waterloo lol.

I highly suggest doing your work outside of your residence. You won't get much work done when dinner rolls by. Get used to not sleeping well because you'll either go to sleep late and/or be woken up very early by geese. I swear to god the entire geese colony of Canada was at Waterloo ..... they will drive you crazy. Get used to being hissed at by geese, it'll become a weekly routine.

Sometimes things would get crazy ... like this one time I was passed out on my friends bed and everyone just decided to jump on me ... this is what happens when you have 1000lbs+ on a bed in REV:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7348/dsc00005yji.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00005yji.jpg)

Or as a joke ... we moved all of our friends furniture into the washroom

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9615/n50319147716576659248.th.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=n50319147716576659248.jpg)

I suggest for anyone going on res next year to be outgoing, you don't want to be the person left out on your floor. If some of the people ask around to go out, say yes if you have nothing to do (or if you can do it later) because it'll give you the opportunity to know them better.

You're not going to make too many friends in lectures because the people who come to the lectures tend to be focused so you won't get the opportunity to be very social there. So make friends on your floor, and that'll branch out to knowing people on other floors.

Conestoga mall is decent as it has just about everything you need. Your WATcard is very helpful, free bus rides on the GRT. Some places outside of campus accept WATcards as payments. Here is a cab # that accepts WATCard payments 519-886-1200. Twice The Deal's Pizza Godzilla deal is the best deal ever, 2XL 3 topping pizzas for $19.99 (albeit very greasy and fattening, but still delicious :D).

Be ready to eat some of the worst and best food ever. The Caf at REV was very mixed. Sometimes dinner would be awesome ... other times V1's double cheesburger was the better choice lol (especially at 11PM :D)

One of the downsides to any residence are the dons. Even though we had some very cool dons, they still had a job to do (telling us to be quiet or that 11PM is quite hours).

Get the biggest meal plan possible, you will run out. Even though you might not eat a lot at dinner, snacks will run your food bank dry.

If your schedule is flexible, go for late morning/afternoon classes. Don't rush into buying books early because you may not end up needing them. Two of my courses offered a free printable version of the textbook, about half of my classes had online lecture slides posted directly from the book. The only good thing I can say about books is that they have problems and exercises you can do, other then that you probably won't end up using them that often (depending on the program your in).

[chris0101]

Lived in V1 year 1; moving to UWP for my 2nd year. Any advice?

Cooking should be an interesting change, and I am told that 2A term for AFM is much harder than year 1, etc.

[Mysteek]

Going to be in V1 this fall, first year. Pretty excited =]

I hope Computational Science won't completely ruin my social life, I heard the program itself was pretty difficult but not impossible.

[Deadmon]

Lived in V1 year 1; moving to UWP for my 2nd year. Any advice?

Cooking should be an interesting change, and I am told that 2A term for AFM is much harder than year 1, etc.

Being a former resident of UWP and having some spare time at the moment..

1. If you want to be friends with your neighbours, do it fast. By the middle of October, you'll probably never see them open their door again. It went from a noisy September to a dead-silent October pretty much.

2. Resist buying from the plaza, the costs just pile up. Having PopEyes open up recently doesn't help either! If you must, abuse those coupons you get in the mail (good old Harvey coupons)

3. Be careful cooking, those damn fire alarms ring easily when there is even the slightest hint of smoke (gets god damn annoying too for your roommates). You don't want to wake up early cause your roommate burnt an egg..

4. Figure out chores. People I knew took turns cleaning washroom/floors/kitchen, while dishes were do-your-own.

5. Enjoy cooking! I used it as a mini stress reliever, and it lets you have time to sort out your thoughts. Don't get into the habit of making the same dishes over and over again, go try and make some creative recipes when you have time. Only downside is groceries, but even that is easily remedied with the grocery shuttle buses outside of EBY every Saturday, or the number 8 (I believe) bus that takes you to Sobeys.

But since you're in AFM, I'm guessing you're in that living and learning community, so you should be fine getting along with your neighbours.

[civ@uw]

^^^^
Popeye's isn't the fried chicken place, it's a sports nutrition supplement store.

[alv077]

Lived in V1 year 1; moving to UWP for my 2nd year. Any advice?

Cooking should be an interesting change, and I am told that 2A term for AFM is much harder than year 1, etc.

Nah.

The only thing is that the recruiting/co-op cuts a bit into your free time.


^^^^
Popeye's isn't the fried chicken place, it's a sports nutrition supplement store.

and that makes me sad :(

[A]

I'm going to be a first year too, I got into UWP (was hoping for V1 but oh well)

I've been trying to enroll in my courses but often I get stopped with a message

"Error: You are unable to enroll in this class at this time. Available seats are reserved and you do not meet the reserve capacity requirements."

Does that mean I have to wait until July 27th (Open Class Enrollment) to enroll?

[tomotomo]

nah, it just means that those seats are reserved for certain students, for example art/math students

[Deadmon]

^^^^
Popeye's isn't the fried chicken place, it's a sports nutrition supplement store.

...well, there goes an easy dinner...


Oh well, cheers to better health!

[chris0101]

nah, it just means that those seats are reserved for certain students, for example art/math students

I do wish that we had more time during our course calendar. They are so limited in time and give so little choice in courses. :mad:

Apparently, there have been people who've had to give up minors and other areas of study due to this.

[julcae88]

Hey!

Has anyone taken chemical engineering 230? How is it? Any tips/suggestions? lol

[A]

nah, it just means that those seats are reserved for certain students, for example art/math students

Does it mean I can't take that course AT ALL?

Open enrollment has started and I've been trying to get into PHYS 121L but I run into the same message. PHYS 121L isn't required for PHYS121 is it? Just suggested?

[chris0101]

Does it mean I can't take that course AT ALL?

Open enrollment has started and I've been trying to get into PHYS 121L but I run into the same message. PHYS 121L isn't required for PHYS121 is it? Just suggested?

Try contacting the faculty and asking them about it. If there are reservations like course codes, ask them for the codes.

[havoks]

I do wish that we had more time during our course calendar. They are so limited in time and give so little choice in courses. :mad:

Apparently, there have been people who've had to give up minors and other areas of study due to this.

I might have to give up my minor (SPCOM) if they don't offer two certain courses next Winter term. What's the point of allowing people to minor in it if the course offerings are too sparse to make it plausible -- pisses me off.

[lilVC]

Sorry for bringing up a very old thread but didn't know where else to ask this...

I was hoping if someone has any useful information on getting a co-op job internationally. Other than Jobmine (which I find useless in terms of the jobs offered internationally), would anyone have an idea on how I can perhaps get a placement in Dubai? I know they have the new facility being built, so I'd guess there are many co-op openings for the students there.

Anyways, what steps should I take in searching for a co-op job within the Dubai region? Other than networking since I don't have one...:lol:

[alv077]

I might have to give up my minor (SPCOM) if they don't offer two certain courses next Winter term. What's the point of allowing people to minor in it if the course offerings are too sparse to make it plausible -- pisses me off.

Beats me. That's why I'm doing an econ minor instead... the responses you get about when courses will be available are so wishy-washy in that department.


Sorry for bringing up a very old thread but didn't know where else to ask this...

I was hoping if someone has any useful information on getting a co-op job internationally. Other than Jobmine (which I find useless in terms of the jobs offered internationally), would anyone have an idea on how I can perhaps get a placement in Dubai? I know they have the new facility being built, so I'd guess there are many co-op openings for the students there.

Anyways, what steps should I take in searching for a co-op job within the Dubai region? Other than networking since I don't have one...:lol:

Do it like any non-coop student would: go on their company sites and apply.

[lagzor]

do it like any non-coop student would: Go on their company sites and apply.

+1

[Jon Lai]

Sorry for bringing up a very old thread but didn't know where else to ask this...

I was hoping if someone has any useful information on getting a co-op job internationally. Other than Jobmine (which I find useless in terms of the jobs offered internationally), would anyone have an idea on how I can perhaps get a placement in Dubai? I know they have the new facility being built, so I'd guess there are many co-op openings for the students there.

Anyways, what steps should I take in searching for a co-op job within the Dubai region? Other than networking since I don't have one...:lol:

Go talk to CECS. They should have some connections now with our new Dubai campus.

[funzone36]

So, it is confirmed that the new UW logo will be implemented next term?

[alv077]

I don't think administration has the balls of steel required to actually go through with it. It got all the way to a facebook group which is about the extent of student activism on campus.

... except that guy that looked like he was going to cry over losing two bucks a term at the slc during the wpirg debate.

[DesignW]

Anyone know how it is after the first year for math students?

[funzone36]

^ Choose major.


Anyway, UW is probably the only university where all its faculties have at least one coop program. I think you won't find that anywhere else in the world. I'm waiting for folks to prove me wrong as I'd like a list of them.

[resu]

^ choose major.


anyway, uw is probably the only university where all its faculties have at least one coop program. I think you won't find that anywhere else in the world. I'm waiting for folks to prove me wrong as i'd like a list of them.

utsc?

[funzone36]

utsc?

Not all faculties of University of Toronto has coop. University of Toronto is a university. UTSC by itself is just a small part of the university. You have to combine all 3 campuses.

[funzone36]

You know what I don't like? The SLC has so much more food variety compared to last year (my 1st year). I hate those 1st yrs now.

[barking frog]

You know what I don't like? The SLC has so much more food variety compared to last year (my 1st year). I hate those 1st yrs now.Does it still cost something ridiculous like $10 for a meal at brubakers?

[Sakaban]

who here is done exam already? mine doesnt end until 17th.. ECON 401 sighh... the hardest course of my semester

[alv077]

Does it still cost something ridiculous like $10 for a meal at brubakers?

I think the new pita place is $7 for a pita... I suppose you could go to Fed Express or whatever they call it for a drink though. If you're happy with half-subs, I think they priced their classic subs for $5 at Subway - kinda a scam since you can get a footlong for that price at the plaza.


who here is done exam already? mine doesnt end until 17th.. ECON 401 sighh... the hardest course of my semester

How bad is that course? Math heavy or memorization heavy?

[Sakaban]

I think the new pita place is $7 for a pita... I suppose you could go to Fed Express or whatever they call it for a drink though. If you're happy with half-subs, I think they priced their classic subs for $5 at Subway - kinda a scam since you can get a footlong for that price at the plaza.



How bad is that course? Math heavy or memorization heavy?

I cant say its really math based or memorization.. its basically taking what you learn in class, and applying the material to the questions. the class doesn't do that much examples for you so you really gotta know what u learned in class and apply it in questions.

[alv077]

Doesn't sound like a very "fun" elective :P

[Sakaban]

LoL its not an elective to begin with.. its a core course open to Honours Econ students..

[alv077]

I thought it was open to minor students too? :s

... but I guess that's irrelevant now. Any fluffy suggestions for econ courses aside from 344/220?

[danby]

Hi, I got an early acceptance to Environment and Business co-op at Waterloo, and I was just wondering how good is this program? I Kind of just chose this as my third choice when I applied because I had the intention of already going to York or U of T for business related programs, so envrion/business was kind of a leftover choice for me. My other question is that what kind of co-op jobs can i expect once i am in the program?

Thank you in advance

[stardustcross]

just about anything really...

I'd suggest taking a look at CECS's website, that should get you started.

http://www.cecs.uwaterloo.ca/students/sessions.php?month_num=1&year_num=2010

above is the information sessions calendar and a few of those events are open to ES/Business students.

[moon_man33]

anyone taken econ 211? how is it?

[funzone36]

Is it really worth $12 million dollars just to have 6 new classrooms at the new school of accounting building?

[stanace]

Is it really worth $12 million dollars just to have 6 new classrooms at the new school of accounting building?

Hey, those are really nice rooms. The best they have on campus!

Is it worth it? No.

[stardustcross]

Hey, those are really nice rooms. The best they have on campus!

Is it worth it? No.


might've agreed until I went for a walk in the optometry building...damn it's nice!

[adehbone]

Is it really worth $12 million dollars just to have 6 new classrooms at the new school of accounting building?

Do you know how much Revenue school of accounting makes? The price of tuition for AFM, Math/CA people for their masters. I am sure they can afford 6 more classrooms if they want.

[funzone36]

WTF, PD2 takes a hell of a lot more time than PD1 to finish. Enough with this BS please!

[alv077]

Is it really worth $12 million dollars just to have 6 new classrooms at the new school of accounting building?

We were getting sick of only having one projector per room with crappy seating.

I'm sad that the school's f/s doesn't show the department's numbers as a separate segment... it'd be interesting to see how much costs really are.

[miyazakisan]

Hey guys, wondering if you could help me out. I am really considering Waterloo seriously for engineering co-op, but people seem to describe it as full of asian cliques and hard to make friends otherwise. Is that exaggerated?

[MiguelH]

Hey guys, wondering if you could help me out. I am really considering Waterloo seriously for engineering co-op, but people seem to describe it as full of asian cliques and hard to make friends otherwise. Is that exaggerated?

ChemEng'er at UW here. Yes very exaggerated, the faculty isn't even really dominated by asians like people say, lots of good people to meet and such. and besides, you can always make friends outside of engineering.

[funzone36]

Hey guys, wondering if you could help me out. I am really considering Waterloo seriously for engineering co-op, but people seem to describe it as full of asian cliques and hard to make friends otherwise. Is that exaggerated?

LOL, the answer is pretty obvious.

[jsonli]

Hey guys, wondering if you could help me out. I am really considering Waterloo seriously for engineering co-op, but people seem to describe it as full of asian cliques and hard to make friends otherwise. Is that exaggerated?

There is a large asian population, but it isn't overwhelming.

I wouldn't say it's hard to make friends. Literally everyone lives within a couple square km, so it's quite easy to hang out.
You'll have people living in your dorm and/or roommates as well.

Also, I wouldn't let something somewhat trivial like that affect your choice of university. Whether you meet friends or not is largely up to you, regardless of where you go.

[13sundin]

if you guys havent seen it yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pxe0O8uz8c

[funzone36]

if you guys havent seen it yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pxe0O8uz8c

I made a thread about it.

Also, it seems like it's easier to sublet in the winter compared to summer.

[kala]

Hey guys...would anyone from the Business program be able to tell me when their midterms were held last semester? I'm from Brock and we are planning an intercollegiate competition, so we are trying to decide on a suitable date. It is going to be a three day case competition. The dates we have in mind are Nov 5-7 or 12-14. Your input would be greatly appreciated!

[board123]

Hey guys, wondering if you could help me out. I am really considering Waterloo seriously for engineering co-op, but people seem to describe it as full of asian cliques and hard to make friends otherwise. Is that exaggerated?
That's true for math, but not engineering. Math is full of non-English speaking Asians. Engineering is a much more...Western...environment. You won't feel like an outcast in a sea of Asians. Not at all.

[tomotomo]

anyone take psych101 distance education? do you basically read from the textbook? what are the assignments like? do the assignments involve a lot of writing? would you take it DE or on campus? any other tips? :P

[SherryBerry]

anyone take psych101 distance education? do you basically read from the textbook? what are the assignments like? do the assignments involve a lot of writing? would you take it DE or on campus? any other tips? :P

Not sure about distance education, but you should take it on campus with Richard Ennis. He is a really great prof, really animated lectures, and there are no assignments, only one midterm and one final (all multiple choice). You do have to participate in researches though to earn 4% of your final mark, which is not bad because every half hour of participation gets you 0.5%.

[8)]

Hey guys, wondering if you could help me out. I am really considering Waterloo seriously for engineering co-op, but people seem to describe it as full of asian cliques and hard to make friends otherwise. Is that exaggerated?

im in engineering. suprisingly, not many asians in my class. however, the campus has considerably more asians than other unis ive been too and there are honestly 5 girls in my class out of 100 people. im dead serious. the campus is pretty hideous also. as for friends, thats up to you.

[nacht]

Hi, I'm a non-asian girl going to Waterloo next year for CS...
Do you think it will be possible for me to not be a total loner in my class? :P
I know it will likely be a sausage fest...

[andrew2good4u]

Hi, I'm a non-asian girl going to Waterloo next year for CS...
Do you think it will be possible for me to not be a total loner in my class? :P
I know it will likely be a sausage fest...

You'll be fine. If you live in rez you'll make tons of friends.

[resu]

Hi, I'm a non-asian girl going to Waterloo next year for CS...
Do you think it will be possible for me to not be a total loner in my class? :P
I know it will likely be a sausage fest...

There are more white girls in CS. Then again I have had CD classes with no girls in it. CS is more white than Asian IMO... most of my Asian friends hate programming.

FYI, if you're anywhere near decent looking, be prepared for the easiest four years of your life. Tons of people will line up to do your homework :lol:

[miyazakisan]

im in engineering. suprisingly, not many asians in my class. however, the campus has considerably more asians than other unis ive been too and there are honestly 5 girls in my class out of 100 people. im dead serious. the campus is pretty hideous also. as for friends, thats up to you.

alright, that sounds okay (apart from the 5 girls part). im asian myself, but not chinese, and my high school made me feel like an exchange student sometimes. so I just want a more..."westernized" environment in uni....and otherwise Waterloo's co-op eng program sounds perfect for me.

[serv]

Waterloo engineering departments in terms of number of girls and their quality
I'll list only the ones I know about.

God tier
Environmental
Management
Chemical

Average tier
Computer

**** tier
Electrical


Not too sure about Mech, Civil and others. Wanna fill me in?

[MiguelH]

Mech = 5 girls/96 or something for 2014 class. (apparently)
Civil gets to hang with Environmental.

[miyazakisan]

Waterloo engineering departments in terms of number of girls and their quality
I'll list only the ones I know about.

God tier
Environmental
Management
Chemical

Average tier
Computer

**** tier
Electrical


Not too sure about Mech, Civil and others. Wanna fill me in?

So basically the easier the major, the more the girls?

Just kidding :cheesygri

[funzone36]

So basically the easier the major, the more the girls?

Just kidding :cheesygri

Actually, that could be true.

[okano]

im in engineering. suprisingly, not many asians in my class. however, the campus has considerably more asians than other unis ive been too and there are honestly 5 girls in my class out of 100 people. im dead serious. the campus is pretty hideous also. as for friends, thats up to you.

i beat ya
my physics class back in 02 has 2 girls out of 100 XD

[SherryBerry]

software engineering - 5 girls out of 120 or so?
We had 7 girls in 1A, don't know what happened to the 2 that disappeared...

[8)]

alright, that sounds okay (apart from the 5 girls part). im asian myself, but not chinese, and my high school made me feel like an exchange student sometimes. so I just want a more..."westernized" environment in uni....and otherwise Waterloo's co-op eng program sounds perfect for me.

as long as you dont mind pdeng. this was due tuesday and now im stuck doing PD****ingEng on a friday night. **** waterloo and **** pdeng.

[balor]

alright, that sounds okay (apart from the 5 girls part). im asian myself, but not chinese, and my high school made me feel like an exchange student sometimes. so I just want a more..."westernized" environment in uni....and otherwise Waterloo's co-op eng program sounds perfect for me.

Engineering faculty is full of brown people; its the math faculty that is full of asians

[Adage]

Why would number of girls in engineering class even matter?

Frankly I think it's irrelevant. You don't meet girls in class, you meet them at the bar.

[hot3sang]

Anyone needing a summer sublet (May 1 to Aug 30)? 3 unfurnished bedrooms close to UW and WLU, pm me!

[deveritt]

if you guys havent seen it yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pxe0O8uz8c

OMG

I can't believe someone videotaped this. I was in this exam last term!! :lol::lol:

[crimsondarkn]

Hello all spring term students!

[Atheral]

Hello all spring term students!

Hello! Wonderful weather in Waterloo today! :D

[crimsondarkn]

Yeah.. until the rain came!

[Deford]

So basically the easier the major, the more the girls?

Just kidding :cheesygri

Not quite, my program had an admissions cutoff of 86% back in the day and I was one of only 5 or so guys to 80 or so girls. Graduated a while ago, was wondering if anyone knows if the gift store is still open (want a new decal for my car) and if Phil's still has that sketchy couch that at least 1 person vomits on a night.

Also, did Mels really burn down? I saw the fire video on youtube but can't believe that my last call breakfast stop could disappear.

[everlastingxx3]

To those who are at waterloo!

I got accepted to the honours arts program in waterloo and I was wondering if know anything about it. I know that Waterloo is known for its mathematics, engineering, and science program but is honours arts a good program at waterloo? Are the people nice there? How do you like the campus environment? Do people party a lot? (Im kinda quiet though I like partying sometimes). Is it true that its full of asians? (loll xP) Do you like your residence life? Do people have trouble adjusting? (I don't know if I can take care of myself though I am really curious and excited to see what life would be like to be independent.) Did you regret going to waterloo?

[GryphonKnight]

To those who are at waterloo!

I got accepted to the honours arts program in waterloo and I was wondering if know anything about it. I know that Waterloo is known for its mathematics, engineering, and science program but is honours arts a good program at waterloo? Are the people nice there? How do you like the campus environment? Do people party a lot? (Im kinda quiet though I like partying sometimes). Is it true that its full of asians? (loll xP) Do you like your residence life? Do people have trouble adjusting? (I don't know if I can take care of myself though I am really curious and excited to see what life would be like to be independent.) Did you regret going to waterloo?

it really depends on what program you are going for. there are some pretty good programs in the arts faculty at waterloo. I graduated from political science and we have a good grad program in global governance. getting a degree in arts and business is pretty good as well since you take a large variety of courses. biggest thing though really is the coop. it gets your foot in the door if you can get a job and you might end up working for one of your coop placements when you graduate. the professors I had were really nice for the most part, some weren't as friendly but I remember spending a lot of time speaking to them during office hours or after class about stuff related to their lectures. being from toronto, waterloo was a nice change. the campus was really nice, open and more green than I was use to. the thing is you will have the same thing every where, some people will be nice, some won't, some people will party, some won't. in the instances of partying, it really is a matter of where you live. some of the residences have a higher likelihood of having parties just because of the way they are set up. it really isn't full of asians but there are a lot. arts doesn't have as many asians, relatively speaking. I believe there were about maybe a dozen or so that I can think of in my years' program. there are a large variety of residences, the university ones have different types, the university college residences have their own style. it really depends on you and what you like. V1 for instance has single rooms, SJU you share with a roommate. this also differs a bit with the meal plans as well. the university ones you have a choice of meal plan or cook for yourself if you have the facilities (ie, UWP). the university colleges have a meal plan that you have to buy (at least when I lived there). from what I have seen in the past, some people do get homesick and I have seen some people drop out and go home after a few weeks but usually your floormates are pretty cool and a lot of time you won't miss being away from home not too long into the term. from personal experience, in first year I would go home about once every other week but by the time my last year came around I went home once a term and that was more out of obligation than really wanting to go home. as to your last question, I don't regret going to waterloo for one second. hope that helps and let me know if you have any follow up questions.

[funzone36]

How is econ 211?

[dbzsr]

I got accepted into Electrical Engineering at UW a while back
can't decide if I should go there and live on res or go to UofT and live at home??
How does UW coop work? would it balance out the huge debt. that i would be in if I live on res?

[congeeE]

does anyone have any opinions on Ennis, Macleod, or Clark? I'm taking PSYCH101 and I want a high mark (I don't mind working). I heard Ennis has great lectures but his tests are culminating. I'm currently enrolled in Macleod now. should I switch out ? Macleod's classes are both in the mornings, while Ennis and Clark are just on one night.

[Sazafraz]

yay waterloo

[rems]

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/840680--bathtub-girl-to-attend-waterloo-u-in-the-fall?bn=1

Fall students are going to get a celebrity around campus...

[FelixMaximus]

I got accepted into Electrical Engineering at UW a while back
can't decide if I should go there and live on res or go to UofT and live at home??
How does UW coop work? would it balance out the huge debt. that i would be in if I live on res?

Living in rez is quite expensive and NOT tax-deductible, so off-campus is better/potentially easier if you know people off-stream (i.e. they would be on co-op while you're on term and vice-versa)

Co-op will probably not pay off your debt as an EE student since engineer tuition is the highest (correct me if I'm wrong) of the programs at UW... It will take a nice chunk out though and will make you a LOT of connections (that is if you can get a job in the highly-competitive engineering....let's call it swarm)

I'm going into 4A and am basically set with a career waiting for me after I graduate and I have the option for my master's/phd to be funded by the employer.

UofT might be better if you plan on staying at home but I think it is valuable to learn how to negotiate leases and depend on yourself for your well-being

Good luck, have fun, don't die
(too much SC2)

[MATHEMATICS]

To those who are at waterloo!

I got accepted to the honours arts program in waterloo and I was wondering if know anything about it. I know that Waterloo is known for its mathematics, engineering, and science program but is honours arts a good program at waterloo? Are the people nice there? How do you like the campus environment? Do people party a lot? (Im kinda quiet though I like partying sometimes). Is it true that its full of asians? (loll xP) Do you like your residence life? Do people have trouble adjusting? (I don't know if I can take care of myself though I am really curious and excited to see what life would be like to be independent.) Did you regret going to waterloo?

Some art programs at Waterloo are not bad such as Arts and Business or Econ, but the main thing is co-op. Just getting the experience and connections is very important for the future. The campus is ugly and disappointing compared to Western but to each their own. The campus is quite large though (good and bad at the same time). As with every university, you will find people that party and some that don't, but word of advice: choose your friends wisely. Waterloo is not full of asians. That is a common misconception. In Arts especially, the ratio is pretty even in terms of asians/whites/indians and girls/guys. Residence life was quite amazing. I lived in Village 1 and had a single room and we would often have floor parties because our don was cool with it. Every don is different, you may end up with someone who is anal or someone who is chills. Rev is good for parties though. Adjusting depends on yourself. If you have acquired good working habits and skills in life, you should be fine. I just finished first year and I do not regret one second of it. Met a lot of great people (generally, everyone is pretty nice), became more independent and am looking forward to coop soon. If you have any more questions, ask.

[Conkey]

Hi everyone. I am really hoping that some students can give me a brief summary about living in waterloo, how it is compared to toronto? Does waterloo also have its ghetto areas like regent park and jane and finch? Is there a certain area that one would want to stay within, and is it true that most people in waterloo are teens (ages 18-25) or is this false?

Also what are we looking at for a 1 bedroom highrise apartment? (not basement apartment, highrise building that has like 15-30 floors, not condo's either they are too expensive)

In waterloo is it basically like toronto, seeing a random person for the first time in toronto who you dont talk to or know, like on ttc or somewhere, you will usually never see them again in your life. is that how it is in waterloo?

lastly, how is the prices compares with toronto for movie tickets, food, gas, etc?

To all who answer my questions, thank you very much it is highly appreciated!

[jojomojustin]

omg i am wanting to live off campus but due to travelling i havent found a place to live!!!! is it still possible to get decent places around 400 coming year?!?:(:(

[aiduo]

there are pretty much no places near campus that has above 15 floors afaik... closest I think its keatsway with 14 floors. Apartments near campus are usually transglobe.. like 600 some to 1350 ish... fall term is crazy.. housing is in really high demand and goes fast.. usually by mid/end of august everything is taken so you should really start looking soon

[Conkey]

Hoping someone can answer my questions:
Hi everyone. I am really hoping that some students can give me a brief summary about living in waterloo, how it is compared to toronto? Does waterloo also have its ghetto areas like regent park and jane and finch? Is there a certain area that one would want to stay within, and is it true that most people in waterloo are teens (ages 18-25) or is this false?

Also what are we looking at for a 1 bedroom highrise apartment? (not basement apartment, highrise building that has like 15-30 floors, not condo's either they are too expensive)

In waterloo is it basically like toronto, seeing a random person for the first time in toronto who you dont talk to or know, like on ttc or somewhere, you will usually never see them again in your life. is that how it is in waterloo?

lastly, how is the prices compares with toronto for movie tickets, food, gas, etc?

To all who answer my questions, thank you very much it is highly appreciated!

[stardustcross]

I found living there okay, but some ppl found it really boring and went home every weekend. In 4th year I went home a lot less due to a lack of time, but so did my friends, so we all just hung out together and it wasn't boring =P there is also a bit to discover in Waterloo...I just wish I did it earlier. Having a car made that easier though.

Uh...I guess the "ghetto" areas would be Lester, where majority of the housing is for students? ;) I don't know what you're thinking though. It's not like you're gonna stand there and get shot. I'm a female and I walk home at odd hours of the night and always feel safe... and given the population at UW and WLU alone, of course there will be a lot of young people in that age bracket. But I wouldn't go so far as to say MOST. Waterloo's population isn't that small.

For apartments, you can just check the off-campus housing websites. Someone already mentioned Go Transglobe, which manages many apartments in the area. Their reputation in Toronto is awful but in Waterloo they're okay. I lived in one of their apartments in my final year and it was decent, clean and well-managed enough. 945/mo. for 2 people, nothing included.

Gas prices - just look up KWGasPrices. Generally it's 4-5 cents cheaper so my family always fills up their tank before leaving. (Or they do because they have another 100km to drive to get home...)

Everything else to me seems expensive, especially food. I stock up on groceries in Toronto when I get the chance.

There's a movie theatre 10 min away from UW and they do have the Telus Tuesday deals, so you're fine. ;)


Hoping someone can answer my questions:
Hi everyone. I am really hoping that some students can give me a brief summary about living in waterloo, how it is compared to toronto? Does waterloo also have its ghetto areas like regent park and jane and finch? Is there a certain area that one would want to stay within, and is it true that most people in waterloo are teens (ages 18-25) or is this false?

Also what are we looking at for a 1 bedroom highrise apartment? (not basement apartment, highrise building that has like 15-30 floors, not condo's either they are too expensive)

In waterloo is it basically like toronto, seeing a random person for the first time in toronto who you dont talk to or know, like on ttc or somewhere, you will usually never see them again in your life. is that how it is in waterloo?

lastly, how is the prices compares with toronto for movie tickets, food, gas, etc?

To all who answer my questions, thank you very much it is highly appreciated!

[MATHEMATICS]

Hi everyone. I am really hoping that some students can give me a brief summary about living in waterloo, how it is compared to toronto? Does waterloo also have its ghetto areas like regent park and jane and finch? Is there a certain area that one would want to stay within, and is it true that most people in waterloo are teens (ages 18-25) or is this false?

Also what are we looking at for a 1 bedroom highrise apartment? (not basement apartment, highrise building that has like 15-30 floors, not condo's either they are too expensive)

In waterloo is it basically like toronto, seeing a random person for the first time in toronto who you dont talk to or know, like on ttc or somewhere, you will usually never see them again in your life. is that how it is in waterloo?

lastly, how is the prices compares with toronto for movie tickets, food, gas, etc?

To all who answer my questions, thank you very much it is highly appreciated!

Waterloo is a lot different from Toronto. A lot less traffic, more green and geese. Waterloo for the most part is not ghetto (especially where the universities are) but when you reach downtown, there are quite a bit of homeless people. For the most part, places close to university will be mostly students.

As for this part: "In waterloo is it basically like toronto, seeing a random person for the first time in toronto who you dont talk to or know, like on ttc or somewhere, you will usually never see them again in your life. is that how it is in waterloo?

Unlikely, but its possible.

Prices are almost the same. Gas is definitely cheaper by a bit. Groceries are more expensive though.

[rcxAsh]

In waterloo is it basically like toronto, seeing a random person for the first time in toronto who you dont talk to or know, like on ttc or somewhere, you will usually never see them again in your life. is that how it is in waterloo?
In general, since you'll probably spend some amount of time on campus, of course you may start to see people you don't know more than once, especially within your faculty. Larger faculties maybe less likely, but I know in engineering, there are a number of engineering students that I recognize, but I don't know personally, simply because they were in my cohort so I've seen them around residence when I was in first year, and then later I'd walk past them in the engineering building hallways occasionally.

Outside of the university, it's probably less likely. Waterloo is smaller than Toronto, but it's not tiny backwater by most standards.

The only time that I consistently saw people I didn't know was when I did a co-op term in Kitchener and took the bus regularly (I still stayed near campus at that time). Because the GRT buses run on relatively set schedules at the Charles Street Terminal, once I got there and boarded my usual bus, I would usually see the same people on that bus every day. TTC and GO Transit isn't usually like this mainly because of the sheer size and frequency of the transit system. But the GRT buses are as frequent, so if you use the transit system regularly to get to places by certain times, you'll find yourself taking the exact same scheduled bus each time.

[Conkey]

Thanks for the help. I wasn't asking about the ghettos because I'm scared to get shot rofl. I was asking just to get a sense of the area.

[Conkey]

Ok, getting ready to move to waterloo, which area should i stay around to make sure all the stores, theatres, malls, libraries are near me? i hear that if you stay near the heart of waterloo your good. thoughts please? i am looking for high rise apt only, not condo.

[johnnyR]

So I'm in 1B Engineering at UW and I realized that this program isn't for me... hoping to transfer into marketing / business. Anyone do this before, and know the process/requirements? My marks are pretty poor.

[omgreo]

You chose the wrong school to do Marketing or Business at because we have programs for neither. lol

[FlyerFox]

Hey, i'm applying for Nanotechnology engineering at Waterloo and i was wondering if there are any sites that have admissions statistics on waterloo (like number of applicants per program, entrance average per program, etc)? What my odds of getting in are. I've got an 89% average.

Thanks

[alexsb92]

I'm sure there are statistics even on Waterloo's webpage or in one of the University brochures. With an 89 you can basically get into any of the Engineering programs. Remember that you also have the AIF, which can add up to another 5% to your average. Based on what school you come from, you might also get another up to 5% bonus.

[vin200]

Hey, i'm applying for Nanotechnology engineering at Waterloo and i was wondering if there are any sites that have admissions statistics on waterloo (like number of applicants per program, entrance average per program, etc)? What my odds of getting in are. I've got an 89% average.

Thanks

I know people who have gotten rejected from Nano with an 89 and even 90 average. For Nanotech, you need low 90s to be guaranteed acceptance. So it pretty much depends on your AIF and what HS you came from.

[tjkinch]

looking for some help/advice. The financial aid office has recently told me that I have exceeded the amount to terms I can get full time funding for. I have appealed this issue and have been denied. I have spoken with OSAP and NSLSC which have informed me that I am NOT restricted from receiving full time funding. They told me that they do not go by the amount of terms for funding, but they go by weeks. I am entitled to 340 weeks of funding. I am sitting at 184 weeks. I am currently enrolled in 3 courses (60% of a full course load). The restriction that the Financial Aid office is giving me is "study time + 1”. What this means is that if you are in a 4 year program you have 4 years plus 1 term to receive full time funding. I was in a 4 year program originally but changed to a 3 year program in 2009. I told the office about this and they said "well we can't see that on your file". I said "yes you can". They said, "well, it doesn't matter anyways because you don't need the third course so we won't fund you". So now, even though the restriction they gave originally doesn't apply anymore, and I am eligible for full time funding according to both federal and provincial regulations, they still refuse to process my roll-over form. As we all know, winter term starts on the 4th. I have to have my fees paid by the 31st of January or I will be locked out and un-enrolled. I am 3 months away from graduation. I have NO way of paying my fees since I am a single mother who has been living off OSAP and baby bonus since I started school. I live in a small town that only offers full time jobs at the factories which means nights and weekends. Anybody who has kids knows how impossible it is to find a baby sitter for nights and weekends. I am at the end of my rope with this office. I have emailed them and left messages and they are not getting back to me. OH, and get this...all of a sudden there is a progress warning on my file dated for Nov. 2. It showed up in a matter of a day. Can the financial aid office do this? How can they refuse to process my roll-over form and deny me what I am clearly entitled to? Advice?

[lewin00]

Student loan from a credit union or bank? You may need a cosigner.

[Ckacke7]

I have a question about the Waterloo Mathematic's programs.

Actuarial Science and Mathematical Economics all fall under the general Mathematics program and you get the option of selecting your major after first year but when I apply it states which is my subject of interest, so its forcing me to select either Actuarial Science or Mathematical Economics. My question is, do I have to send 2 separate applications for the same program but a different subject of interest?

[rnakra]

Hey guys

I just wanted to offer my help on this thread - I am a recent graduate (Class of '10) from chemical engineering from the University of Waterloo. PM me with any questions you may have or post them on this thread and I would be more than happy to help you guys out to the best of my knoweldge

[-VX-]

Hello, I'm hoping someone here might know this: what GPA do you need to get accepted into the Master of Mathematics? I would probably go with either Actuarial Science or Statistics.

The Waterloo website says 78% which I find hard to believe since that's only a 3.1/4.0 GPA. That's probably the minimum...

Thanks!

[PartyPenguin]

I have a question about the Waterloo Mathematic's programs.

Actuarial Science and Mathematical Economics all fall under the general Mathematics program and you get the option of selecting your major after first year but when I apply it states which is my subject of interest, so its forcing me to select either Actuarial Science or Mathematical Economics. My question is, do I have to send 2 separate applications for the same program but a different subject of interest?

Send one. It is just for their internal estimation purposes.

After first year, if you hit the mark requirement, you just transfer into your major regardless of what you chose now.

[akirika]

Hello, I'm hoping someone here might know this: what GPA do you need to get accepted into the Master of Mathematics? I would probably go with either Actuarial Science or Statistics.

The Waterloo website says 78% which I find hard to believe since that's only a 3.1/4.0 GPA. That's probably the minimum...

Thanks!


its actually a 3.3

http://careers.mcmaster.ca/students/education-planning/virtual-resources/gpa-conversion-chart

and yes, its the minimum

[crazlunatic]

Ok, getting ready to move to waterloo, which area should i stay around to make sure all the stores, theatres, malls, libraries are near me? i hear that if you stay near the heart of waterloo your good. thoughts please? i am looking for high rise apt only, not condo.

If you live near the Uni you're fine. Live on rez, take iexpress to mall / only theatre in the city. Two libraries in the school. Two clubs/lounges in the area. You aren't really going to do much shopping here if you're coming from Toronto.

[PartyPenguin]

But it's ALWAYS midterms or finals at UW...

[darkxynx]

Hey, i'm applying for Nanotechnology engineering at Waterloo and i was wondering if there are any sites that have admissions statistics on waterloo (like number of applicants per program, entrance average per program, etc)? What my odds of getting in are. I've got an 89% average.

Thanks

I'm in 1b nano right now, and I did a ton of research on nano and engsci at ut, those were my 2 choices.. I applied in with a 96.. (this was in january or the first deadline or whatever) I don't know what information they provide you now, but as far as im concerned, the pamphlets or brochures or whatever crap they tell you.. is generally useless. like i did a lot of research, and i mean it. during that time, i found a lot more, especially from talking to people in the program, especially 2nd and 3rd years.

i know for last year, they were supposed to accept 100, and something f-ed up, and they accepted 147 instead. about 30% of the class had a FINAL average of 95+ if that helps.

furthermore, i hope you love chemistry and physics.. ALOT.. critical thinking is pretty important too.. 89 may be borderline as I know the majority of my friends in the program applied with low to mid 90s, but I'm pretty sure 89 will get you in as well (don't quote me on this). just bump up the mark a tad higher to be safe..

[nightmare56]

Hey guys

I just wanted to offer my help on this thread - I am a recent graduate (Class of '10) from chemical engineering from the University of Waterloo. PM me with any questions you may have or post them on this thread and I would be more than happy to help you guys out to the best of my knoweldge

Hey I have applied to mechanical engineering at uw and I'm looking at residences now. My first choice has been MKV because of the semi private bathroom and kitchen. But I was speaking to a recent mechatronics grad and he told me I should apply for V1 because you live with 14 other people instead of 3 and the friendships you build there really help with not only yout social life but most importantly school work too. Is this true? I understand what hes saying but dont people at MKV leave their suites and chill with the whole floor for studying and assisgnments? Or there is a better chance that at V1 the whole floor will be engineering students?

Thanks

[apark17]

hey guys so i applied to math/ca and math/bba (with laurier)
math/ca being my first overall choice, which i wanna get in to pretty badly..

these are how my marks shape up so far:

92 advanced functions
93 international business
94 accounting 12
98 calculus

and will be taking econ, data and english and is predicting an average of 94 ish

how are my chances with these marks? what do normally people get accepted with?

[asdfasdf1234]

hey guys so i applied to math/ca and math/bba (with laurier)
math/ca being my first overall choice, which i wanna get in to pretty badly..

these are how my marks shape up so far:

92 advanced functions
93 international business
94 accounting 12
98 calculus

and will be taking econ, data and english and is predicting an average of 94 ish

how are my chances with these marks? what do normally people get accepted with?

lol are you serious... I think the answer is quite obvious

[Mysteek]

hey guys so i applied to math/ca and math/bba (with laurier)
math/ca being my first overall choice, which i wanna get in to pretty badly..

these are how my marks shape up so far:

92 advanced functions
93 international business
94 accounting 12
98 calculus

and will be taking econ, data and english and is predicting an average of 94 ish

how are my chances with these marks? what do normally people get accepted with?

My friend got in math/ca with a 95 overall average, so you should be fine.

[waterlookid]

my cousin got rejected from math/ca with a 94+ so make sure you don't come off as a tool in your application. you should be fine for double degree.

[apark17]

kk thank you for your input everyone! i need to get in math/ca haha
any advice/hints for the AIF? i gotta fill it out soonishh

[resu]

Just curious, why did you pick math/ca over dd? Are you 95% sure you want to be an accountant?

[apark17]

Just curious, why did you pick math/ca over dd? Are you 95% sure you want to be an accountant?

well im pretty sure? (90% sure) i want to be a CA, also i hear having a CA in the business world goes a long way. i havent gotten any acceptances yet but my options are still open with queens commerce, schulich bba and afmpa at loo.
is it better to go in to DD if im not sure?

[resu]

Yes, go for DD if you aren't completely sure. DD people also get big 4 internships so it's not like you're cutting yourself off from that option either.

[resu]

Oh yeah, come to Waterloo and check out the campus sometime. If I did that before coming here and didn't care that much for co-op, I would probably be at U of T right now :facepalm:

[apark17]

oh nice.. yea i wanted to get co-op at big 4 for sure if anything.
yea haha i need to visit once everyone keeps telling me that but i never get the chance to which is a bummer.
Also do you know when they start rolling out acceptances for math/ca or math/bba?
any tips on the AIF? i know it can add a lot of marks/ points to my acceptance, any help would be greatly appreciated!

will i still be able to get my CA after the bmath/ bba program?

[waterlookid]

like resu, i strongly recommend DD over Math/CA. If you want a CA as a DD and you are a decent student, you shouldn't have a problem getting Big4 internships (first hand experience). In fact, if you enroll through the laurier side (which I highly recommend for many reasons, PM me if you want to know why, I chose Waterloo and I would change that if I could go back), getting a CA job will be very easy. I think the only reason I would do Math/CA over DD is if I was very risk averse, but in that case, you will not have an easy time doing well in a business career anyway. However, if for some reason you one day decide you want to work in finance (ibanking, trading, quant stuff), you will have a much, much easier time coming from DD. Also, I know tons of people who have found out that marketing or actuarial science or w/e is more interesting to them and DD leaves all those doors open.

As for AIF, I guess just emphasize leadership and extracurriculars. Doing well on math contests is also important. Other than that, not much else you can do.

As far as I remember, both these programs accepted me very late into the application process, even though I had a 98 top 6. I think it worked out the same for almost everyone who was from Ontario (might have been waiting for 2nd term midterm marks). So don't worry about the wait, you should hear from all the other business schools much sooner.

[motoroia]

HAS ANY ENGINEERING TAKEN A LANGUAGE COURSE AT RENISON?

my program admin says we can't, but according to the CSE requirement, we are allowed to take 1 linguistic course that would count towards List D.

Course offering in the spring term is sooooooooo badddd that there's not a single course that I am interested in. So I want to take Japanese

[resu]

like resu, i strongly recommend DD over Math/CA. If you want a CA as a DD and you are a decent student, you shouldn't have a problem getting Big4 internships (first hand experience). In fact, if you enroll through the laurier side (which I highly recommend for many reasons, PM me if you want to know why, I chose Waterloo and I would change that if I could go back), getting a CA job will be very easy. I think the only reason I would do Math/CA over DD is if I was very risk averse, but in that case, you will not have an easy time doing well in a business career anyway. However, if for some reason you one day decide you want to work in finance (ibanking, trading, quant stuff), you will have a much, much easier time coming from DD. Also, I know tons of people who have found out that marketing or actuarial science or w/e is more interesting to them and DD leaves all those doors open.

As for AIF, I guess just emphasize leadership and extracurriculars. Doing well on math contests is also important. Other than that, not much else you can do.

As far as I remember, both these programs accepted me very late into the application process, even though I had a 98 top 6. I think it worked out the same for almost everyone who was from Ontario (might have been waiting for 2nd term midterm marks). So don't worry about the wait, you should hear from all the other business schools much sooner.

+1

Just curious, are you taking the finance/banking path?

[lobt]

HAS ANY ENGINEERING TAKEN A LANGUAGE COURSE AT RENISON?

my program admin says we can't, but according to the CSE requirement, we are allowed to take 1 linguistic course that would count towards List D.

Course offering in the spring term is sooooooooo badddd that there's not a single course that I am interested in. So I want to take Japanese

Yes, I took ENGL 140R. It's bird-ish if you're a native English speaker...I put in minimal effort for 85%. Interesting course - offers deep insight into grammatical correctness so you can be a grammar Nazi.

[Dark-Colonel]

is it just me or does it seem like a lot of people are now sporting Canada Goose jackets? I see a TON of them, ALL the time. Girls/guys doesn't matter, there's a lot of them going around.

[sl___]

is it just me or does it seem like a lot of people are now sporting Canada Goose jackets? I see a TON of them, ALL the time. Girls/guys doesn't matter, there's a lot of them going around.

Yes, and Waterloo is a Subset of Ontario.

There are tons of them. everywhere.

[darkxynx]

ENGL 140R? Is that a DE course? I could use it for my eng requirement too.. could you elaborate more on what you did on that class? It's not basic english course is it? :S

anyone else have any good ideas for easy bird courses?

i heard the msci200s and hrm200 was pretty good..

i've heard about the psych and econ ones.. but anything else?

[apark17]

anyone know for math/ca or math/bba you need to take comp sci courses?
i hear its only INTRO to comp sci (i might be mistaken) is that easy?

thanks in advance!

[xinspirative]

Ah, I see everyone here is a math or engineering major. ;-;
Well, I applied into the Faculty of Environment.

It'd be great if someone could shed some light on the program - Enviro & Business or Planning.
Do they really fit in with the rest of the campus? And what is the admission range like?

[solstrom]

Ah, I see everyone here is a math or engineering major. ;-;
Well, I applied into the Faculty of Environment.

It'd be great if someone could shed some light on the program - Enviro & Business or Planning.
Do they really fit in with the rest of the campus? And what is the admission range like?

^ A planning grad here.

Planning is a decent program if you are into it. Most of the planning students in Waterloo are UW architecture rejects and a small portion applied for planning directly. I know most people end up staying in the program instead of re-applying for an architecture degree. I know recently there are some changes (for the better) in the program with new added courses, and a new extension added onto the Environment building itself...(larger spaces and more classrooms). If you apply for either E&B or planning make sure you get into the co-op program for practical experience, connections and money!

The planning program itself is very multi-disciplinary. You learn planning theory, law, environmental science, design, statistics, sociology...etc. This is both a blessing and a curse (I feel) because you come out with some knowledge in everything but not extensive knowledge in anything specific! However, you can specialize in fields such as urban design or land development by taking more elective courses in those fields in your third and fourth year. Of course, co-op helps a lot in terms of gaining experience in an aspect of planning. Oh yes, there is A LOT of essay-writing and reading in this program! I left High School with mediocre writing skills but now my ability to BS in a short amount of time even surprises me sometimes.

To answer your questions:
Do they really fit in with the rest of the campus? - I am not sure what you mean by "fitting in" but not a lot of people on campus know where the Environment building is, and not many people understand what Planning is. I once got someone asking me if I am studying "party planning." Students from the Faculty of Environment are a tight-knit group, however, you can still meet people from other faculties if you live on rez the first year.

Admission range? - I am not sure what it is nowadays, but I heard that it has gotten more stringent. I think you can definitely get in if you have a 85+ average, and a good grade in high school english! This is just my guess though...

I don't know much about the Environment and Business program but I know they have less co-op opportunities and they take a mixture of environment courses and business courses....

[xinspirative]

Thank you so much for the insight.
My friend is currently at Waterloo for another program and she told me the environment kids are really close knit, don't really interact with the rest of the campus.

That new building is definitely a plus for new students this year.
I'm a bit torn between E&B or Planning. But I guess I'll decide when I actually get offers (banking on second semester). :)

In terms of co-op placements, do majority of the students actually get placed? Or is it more self-driven?

[solstrom]

Thank you so much for the insight.
My friend is currently at Waterloo for another program and she told me the environment kids are really close knit, don't really interact with the rest of the campus.

That new building is definitely a plus for new students this year.
I'm a bit torn between E&B or Planning. But I guess I'll decide when I actually get offers (banking on second semester). :)

In terms of co-op placements, do majority of the students actually get placed? Or is it more self-driven?

Majority of the students get placed at the end of the term. There were a lot of jobs when I started school, but the job pool shrunk with the economic downturn. I think it should be picking up again. Of course, you'll find that students with better grades end up with more job interviews and offers in the first round. But co-op job postings and interviews usually go on for the entire term so by the end of the term, the MAJORITY of people are able to end up with something.

In choosing b/w E&B and planning, it really depends on your interest. My E&B friend said that EB is really about corporate sustainability and greening businesses. She says there is a lot of focus on the business side. So if you are into business with an environmental touch, then E&B is great for you! If you are into a variety of subject areas (law, science, design), then planning would be good! If you found that you chose the wrong program in your first year, you can always transfer to the other without falling too far behind because some core courses in both programs are the same. If you end up in one program, you could always take courses in the other program no problem (unless the course is full).

Good luck!

[untouchable221]

what if i have a 85 avg in gr 12
what are my chances for getting into actuarial science waterloo
it says u only need an 80 but seems to easy

[xinspirative]

Recently went to the campus to check out the residences.

I was wondering if the colleges had any religious affiliations? I know Renison is pretty religious, they have their own chapel. But are the other colleges like that too?
St. Jerome had the best facilities imo. But would I be missing out on the "social life" if I lived at the college?

Anyone know the chances of getting into MKV? cus I really want to live in a suite style, but UW Place looks awful.

[GryphonKnight]

Recently went to the campus to check out the residences.

I was wondering if the colleges had any religious affiliations? I know Renison is pretty religious, they have their own chapel. But are the other colleges like that too?
St. Jerome had the best facilities imo. But would I be missing out on the "social life" if I lived at the college?

Anyone know the chances of getting into MKV? cus I really want to live in a suite style, but UW Place looks awful.

All the college residences have an affiliation to a religious denomination. St Jerome's is Roman Catholic, Grebal is Mennonite, Renison is Anglican, and St Paul is United I believe. St Jerome's has a chapel as well actually, in the residence office/girl's residence side. I can't confirm this off the top of my head but I wouldn't be surpirsed if St Paul's and Grebal had a chapel as well. I do know that St Jerome's recently upgraded a lot of things, the cafeteria, the flooring and the lounge from what I know. Each of the college residences have their own social life and from what I have seen, tend to stick to themselves. Of course that doesn't restrict you from getting involved with things that go on on main campus. You will more than likely meet people from other residences in your classes.

[szetolf]

Recently went to the campus to check out the residences.

I was wondering if the colleges had any religious affiliations? I know Renison is pretty religious, they have their own chapel. But are the other colleges like that too?
St. Jerome had the best facilities imo. But would I be missing out on the "social life" if I lived at the college?

Anyone know the chances of getting into MKV? cus I really want to live in a suite style, but UW Place looks awful.

Usually first year don't get into suite styles (especially hard to MKV, everyone wants it with air-con)... unless you a stream-4 co-op students (Co-op starts in Winter Term) then you might have a chance of getting it...

I think its still like that but not sure nemore...

[stardustcross]

Recently went to the campus to check out the residences.

I was wondering if the colleges had any religious affiliations? I know Renison is pretty religious, they have their own chapel. But are the other colleges like that too?
St. Jerome had the best facilities imo. But would I be missing out on the "social life" if I lived at the college?

Anyone know the chances of getting into MKV? cus I really want to live in a suite style, but UW Place looks awful.

well for air-con, unless you're there for summer term, life will be fine even if you're not in MKV. I agree with UWP - it's fine for upper year (I lived there during 2nd, and part of 4th), but for first year, it seems a bit lonely and far (unless you're in Engineering I suppose...).

the social life at the colleges are pretty vibrant and wonderful. well, it's what you make of it anyway. I don't think Renison has a chapel, they do have a room where there's an open space anyone's welcome to walk into, grab some tea, etc. that is run *by* religious people...Grebel has weekly chapel services in the middle of the week but no one is obligated to go, although quite a lot do, and anyone can join the choir there. this is followed by their "community suppers", which 99% of people DO go to, because that's basically your dinner. I would say maybe half of the people there are Christian/Mennonite, it's surprisingly diverse and "open". I think St Jerome's services are on Sunday mornings; one of my friends went before. I don't know anything about St. Paul's; only one guy that lived there for about 4 years. thing about colleges is that it's pretty common people choose to go back to live there in upper year. and they are ALL close to campus, especially STJ, so you wouldn't be isolating yourself or anything.

[spion_pin]

I wanted to know if I could get accepted on an 80 avg for life science no co op. My aif is pretty good, I have 7 clubs or so. I'm not sure if I will get accepted
:( I am really worried. What about late admissions? please help me.

[szetolf]

i didn't know waterloo's biomed is that hard to get into.... i thought average was in the 70s....
late admission.. depending on if there's space...

[xinspirative]

So now that midterms are officially in OUAC. When can I expect the next wave of admissions?

I finished with my top six being at 86%, which was a bit disappointing but oh wells.
I just pray that along with my AIF will get me into Environ&Business or Planning ;___;

[GryphonKnight]

So now that midterms are officially in OUAC. When can I expect the next wave of admissions?

I finished with my top six being at 86%, which was a bit disappointing but oh wells.
I just pray that along with my AIF will get me into Environ&Business or Planning ;___;


According to the university website, marks wise you should be fine if things are the same as in the past. I wasn't offered a spot until mid-June when I applied for CS Coop.

[xinspirative]

According to the university website, marks wise you should be fine if things are the same as in the past. I wasn't offered a spot until mid-June when I applied for CS Coop.

Well if the site says low 80s, is it really that range? :|
Not a lot of people applied to the program, so I'm not really getting any inside opinion on the matter.
I guess, once offers come, I might take another trip to Loo.

[froshfrosh]

I got accepted for Management Engineering and am trying to figure out the best place to stay for residences. I really like MKV or UWPlace but how do they compare to the dorms and the social life?

Thanks!

[xinspirative]

I was wondering how helpful the Living-Learning Communities are at Waterloo.
I was accepted into the Faculty of Environment, and their LLC is St. Paul.

I really don't like how it's so secluded from the rest of the campus/colleges. But will a LLC help me succeed?

[AndyZH]

I got accepted for Management Engineering and am trying to figure out the best place to stay for residences. I really like MKV or UWPlace but how do they compare to the dorms and the social life?

Thanks!
Try V1 or Rev, and study at the library, esp if you're at rev. V1 has a good balance because you have your own room for a quiet study environment. I purposely left out MKV because its expensive as hell (I think rent is around 800 a month?? I currently pay just under 400 living off campus)

[AndyZH]

So now that midterms are officially in OUAC. When can I expect the next wave of admissions?

I finished with my top six being at 86%, which was a bit disappointing but oh wells.
I just pray that along with my AIF will get me into Environ&Business or Planning ;___;

You're good. I have a close friend in planning and she got in with high 70's? Not too sure about enviro biz though

[whatsssuppp]

Hi everyone. I'm a high school student in Ottawa, Ontario. I'm thinking about going into engineering.

Here in Ottawa there are 2 universities - uOttawa and Carleton. Both are good universities and have decent industry connections. If I choose to stay in my city then I will be much better off financially - both universities would offer scholarships of $4000/year and tuition is around $6000/year. I'll also be staying with my parents so that will save me a lot of money.

Then there is uWaterloo. Its tuition is around $10000/year and it MIGHT offer me $2000 worth of scholarship just for 1 year. I will also be spending lots of money on rent & food.

The only reason why I'm considering uWaterloo is because of its reputation and co-op program. If I stay in Ottawa and do co-op then I can only get 3 work terms. If I go to Waterloo, then I can get 6 work terms. This, and Waterloo's reputation might make it easier for me to get a job once I graduate. And that is what matters to me the most - getting a good job after university.

So, with all of this info in mind, please tell me how I should proceed. Is uWaterloo's reputation and co-op program worth the financial setback?

[xinspirative]

My roommate and I are planning to sneak a hotplate into our dorm.
Anyone here with experience hiding it? And what would be the consequences if we get caught.
I really don't want to have to eat the caf food everyday.

[Mysteek]

You'll be eating at the plaza a lot too, along with Morty's, Crabby Joes, and all the various restaraunts nearby--no worries =P

If you get caught, you'll probably be told to take it home unless your don is strict, in which case you can be fined.

[wobwob]

You'll be eating at the plaza a lot too, along with Morty's, Crabby Joes, and all the various restaraunts nearby--no worries =P

If you get caught, you'll probably be told to take it home unless your don is strict, in which case you can be fined.
Yup.

I lived in V1 and I got tired of the caf food pretty fast. You can actually use your meal plan on the SLC food stores (Subway, Teriyaki, Timmies) and the DC caf (there's rice, hot dogs, spaghetti and pocky) which gives some variety, but it was still pretty bad for me.

I did hot pot on a hot plate in a UWP common room and we didn't set off any alarms.

[Dark-Colonel]

My roommate and I are planning to sneak a hotplate into our dorm.
Anyone here with experience hiding it? And what would be the consequences if we get caught.
I really don't want to have to eat the caf food everyday.

I highly recommend you not doing this. You'll be in breach of your contract and your don might write up a report on you which goes through the admin staff, they can have you evicted from your residency for breaching terms of your contract. You should read the 2011-2012 contract (http://www.housing.uwaterloo.ca/fees/contracts.html)

Depending on what res you live, you may get it approved to have in a designated common room. I personally wouldn't take the matter serious and I'd just tell you to pack it home, unless you try to be clever and hide it and use it after being told not to, then you'd get written up.

You should consult your don before making taking any actions.


I did hot pot on a hot plate in a UWP common room and we didn't set off any alarms.

The common room is a designated area that allows for items such as a toaster, microwave, etc.


You'll be eating at the plaza a lot too, along with Morty's, Crabby Joes, and all the various restaraunts nearby--no worries =P

If you get caught, you'll probably be told to take it home unless your don is strict, in which case you can be fined.

I can't see any don being very strict on the matter. Most dons that I know probably wouldn't even report it and just let you off with a verbal warning. If something were to go wrong with the hotplate and it were to cause electrical or fire damage, you'll be looking at very severe consequences.

Living in res means that your flex & meal plan dollars will grant you 50% off at all on campus cafs (except for Subway, Tims, Teryaki, etc.). I think the DC caf has pretty good food and nothing beats midnight V1 runs for double cheesburgers :D

[fkwong]

Hi everyone. I'm a high school student in Ottawa, Ontario. I'm thinking about going into engineering.

Here in Ottawa there are 2 universities - uOttawa and Carleton. Both are good universities and have decent industry connections. If I choose to stay in my city then I will be much better off financially - both universities would offer scholarships of $4000/year and tuition is around $6000/year. I'll also be staying with my parents so that will save me a lot of money.

Then there is uWaterloo. Its tuition is around $10000/year and it MIGHT offer me $2000 worth of scholarship just for 1 year. I will also be spending lots of money on rent & food.

The only reason why I'm considering uWaterloo is because of its reputation and co-op program. If I stay in Ottawa and do co-op then I can only get 3 work terms. If I go to Waterloo, then I can get 6 work terms. This, and Waterloo's reputation might make it easier for me to get a job once I graduate. And that is what matters to me the most - getting a good job after university.

So, with all of this info in mind, please tell me how I should proceed. Is uWaterloo's reputation and co-op program worth the financial setback?

I'm going to work on the assumption that money is the only factor. If that is true, Waterloo will be worth it.

My engineering friends all made $25+/hour at very good companies - Microsoft, RIM, AECON, AMD. That turns out to be around $11,000 per co-op term. But, a word of warning, you must be willing to work very hard to get your grades up to snag these jobs.

I'm familiar with the extra costs of paying rent and food in Toronto, so I'm going to say that you're going to use all of your co-op money on tuition, rent etc. After that, a conservative estimate is that your overall university cost will be around the same as if you stayed in Ottawa.

In this economy, unless your parents are very well connected, experience is everything. And 6 terms of co-op compared to 3 terms makes a world of a difference. Especially if you eff up your first one or two terms (I hope you don't), you have some time to rebound to get good references or even a job offer from one of your later employers.

Having said all that, all of this is based on your word that you'd like to increase your chances of getting a good job right out of university. Plus, the times as it is right now, it may be smarter to delay coming out as long as possible until the economy recovers.

Hope this helps.

tl:dr - yes.

[Witness M]

Try V1 or Rev, and study at the library, esp if you're at rev. V1 has a good balance because you have your own room for a quiet study environment. I purposely left out MKV because its expensive as hell (I think rent is around 800 a month?? I currently pay just under 400 living off campus)

MKV is pretty good for a place to live since the ventilation is nice and it's got the biggest rooms out of all the residences excluding the colleges. But MKV forces you to rely on cafe food or trips to Sobeys.

UWP is good if you get place likes Wellesley, and terrible if you get stuck with Beck or Eby. It's pretty handy for grabbing food late at night, and is very convenient to walk to class if you're an engineer.

That being said, when I left in April there were many many apartments being built (or were 1 year old) surrounding UW from the south-east and north-east sides, and a couple decent ones on the south-west side too (Westmount apartments). I would recommend those after you've found people you know you can live with comfortably, and then deal with furnishing and utilities as they come.


As for studying ... V1 is not gonna do anything for you. Thin walls, first year spirits, terrible desks and lighting.

[itachisan]

Hey guys, here's a brief breakdown of my problem.

As many of you might know, the math faculty requires 5 out of 6 co-op work terms to be completed for a student to graduate. Now, during my first year I missed my first work term working at an non-paid internship at Bell Mobility. This summer I couldn't find employment but managed to work at a small company for 5 weeks (hence no co-op credit again). Now I received an email from a co-op advisor that I should submit a petition form to the university to plea to stay in co-op (which is something I'm planning to do).

Do you guys have any ideas or heard of anything relating to this problem? Some advices or insights are greatly appreciated :)

[Lovable]

What the hell? UWaterloo is a great school, why is this thread 2 stars only?

[NerV]

What the hell? UWaterloo is a great school, why is this thread 2 stars only?

Totally agree with that. Even though it might be 4-5 years of torture and hell, your future after that is quite bright and there are many prospective opportunities after that. But, in those 4-5 years you have to work hard to set your foot in the door.

[lilVC]

Has anyone done the management option in engineering? Is it worth it and what purpose has it played for employment?

[fred2028]

Has anyone done the management option in engineering? Is it worth it and what purpose has it played for employment?

IMO it really limits the kinds of electives you can take in your 5 years of coop undergrad. And engineering electives are already scarce. Options for engies are really mostly for resume show off, if you really want a management get an MBA after graduating.

[quitblue]

you're an idiot.
plenty of companies hire people in stream 4. If they see you have potential, they'll hire you. There are plenty junior-level jobs out there.

[fred2028]

you're an idiot.
plenty of companies hire people in stream 4. If they see you have potential, they'll hire you. There are plenty junior-level jobs out there.

I agree, I'm a stream 4 myself and have gotten coop each term so far (going into my 5th on Monday)

[sl___]

Has anyone ever taken MSCI442? I have it next term with Peter Carr. Please PM me if you have cause I would like to know more about the course, difficulty, workload etc.