[Merged] parking ticket in York University

[zzhsnoopy]

hey, does anybody have experience of dealing parking tickets in Yorku University.

I heard if your vehicle is not registered with Yorku, they cannot do anything about it besides keeping sending you parking tickets and statement. (coz they will get your address from MTO)

I've accumulated more than $1400. any suggestions? Thx :oops:

[pizzaman]

haha sucker, how did you get in university if you cant even read the parking instructions right?

[zzhsnoopy]

oh well, there are tones of ppl doing the same thing in York U. Besides, there are many places in the university don't have any sign that indicates no parking. I just want to hear other ppl's experience.

You are no help at all...if you don't have any constructive advice, please keep your mouth shut.

[Smith]

Check the tickets, there is a good chance that even though they are issued by the university they are city tickets, & if they are tied into the mto you're f***ed when you go to renew your plates.

Also wondering the same thing as pizzaman . . . how exactly are you smart enough to get into U of T, but dumb enough to run up $1700 in tickets?

[quarterpounder]

I heard that they can prevent the owner of the car from graduating.. my car is "owned" by my mom.. I pay up on my parking tickets though :) just in case

[enforcerviper]

Seriously, $1400 in parking tickets? After the first two did you not inquire about this with your campus?

$1400 is A LOT of parking offenses, and I don't think they will go lightly on a repeat offender if you NEED plea with them. If you could just walk away from York parking tickets I don't think anyone would waste their time buying parking passes.

[zzhsnoopy]

actually, I know my roommate walked away from $2000 parking ticket last year when she graduated. That's why I followed her way. but I like to hear more cases.

Btw, the tickets itself is not related to MTO. My roommate just sold her car last month. No hassle at all.

[tick]

yea...i dont think you have a problem...my friend at york gets parking tickets all the time...the parking enforcement there is a joke...it's like a donation...you can pay but u dont have to :D

[mbg]

oh well, there are tones of ppl doing the same thing in York U. Besides, there are many places in the university don't have any sign that indicates no parking. I just want to hear other ppl's experience.  

You are no help at all...if you don't have any constructive advice, please keep your mouth shut.

But, how DID you get into University?

I don't think you could expect to post a thread on how to murder someone and not get caught without having someone suggest that murder is wrong.

I really don't know how you neutralize something like this to alllow the feeling that you are not supposed to pay for parking tickets. There have been a number of threads like this... this, and speeding tickets.

[gimmegimme]

How can they not have already towed your car away??

I got a parking ticket at my school (McMaster). The car is registered to my mom and those bastards just put the fine on my student account. Don't pay your student account, don't graduate.

[hypertemp]

How the hell do you think he got in to university wise guy?!?
What kind of comment is that? Do you think someone who has accumulated parking tickets and knows of a way to avoid paying is considered too dumb for university?

[mbg]

How the hell do you think he got in to university wise guy?!?
What kind of comment is that?  Do you think someone who has accumulated parking tickets and knows of a way to avoid paying is considered too dumb for university?

University teaches you to work within and recognize the framework of some field.

If you can't work within the framework of the law, you are not getting off to a good start.

University is unwashed now, though... it used to be more discriminating.

[Stalker]

Actually I have run into the same problem while my wife got a parking ticket from York U while attending her part time MBA classes. The car is registered under my name, so after not getting payment, I finally got a notice sent to my home with my name on it obviously. I am curious to see what will happen if I don't pay as I really have no intention to pay. The only thing that might get to me is when I can't renew my sticker from MTO a year and half from now. Other then that, none of that "not be able to graduate" BS scares me as she won't be tied to this ticket, even if they discover our relationship, I can always argue that it was me actually driving the car at the time.

[Yan]

Yeah i got one when i stayed the night there once.....i never payed it, i think they tacked it on to my license renewel.

[Rehan]

i never payed it, i think they tacked it on to my license renewel.
$1400+$60 would be a pretty expensive license renewal! :lol:

[Zippity]

$1400+$60 would be a pretty expensive license renewal! :lol:

I think that I'd be more concerned about the late fee that's incurred 21 days after the ticket is written.

Gimme a minute to check up whether York follows regulations for private property under the Trespass to Property Act, or whether its a municipal parking ticket.

[Zippity]

from CSBO:

The lands and grounds of York University are PRIVATE PROPERTY, and the University reserves the right to control motor vehicle access to and driving on the campus. The University permits parking and driving on campus grounds only upon the terms and conditions set forth in these Regulations. Provincial laws and Municipal by-laws applicable to campus grounds may be invoked by York University at any time for the purpose of preventing unauthorized parking and ensuring access to fire routes.

So, if i interpret this correctly - when they finally do get off their asses and go through unpaid accounts, they have reserved the right (as owners of private property) to either put a liens on the vehicle, charge the owner of the vehicle, or, failing that, charge the owner of the vehicle with Trespassing on Private Property.

Typically, it will be placed on a student's account, depending on the bylaws put forth by the university itself.

[zzhsnoopy]

I am pretty sure it won't affect the plate renewal. The parking ticket is not issued by MTO and it has nothing to do with MTO.

[Agent_J]

bump

what ever happened to you guys with the huge parking fines at York :) ?

[careener]

It will not affect yor plate renewal.

[lunaticcc]

It will not affect yor plate renewal.
^ What he said.
York is private, and they have not trained their officers to give out city tickets (which would really be effective, but of course the fine doesn't go to york then).
When York looks up the plate info and finds out you (the student) are the owner of the car, then (I think) you are bound by any Senate rules, and hence no graduation diploma (Not graduating was a misconception). If not, it's treated as any normal private ticket. They will send notices (and tack on admin charges each month), and I guess eventually hand it over to a collection agency.
By the way, last I heard, about a year ago, the city of toronto banned private ticketing, but many places like York, and Impark refuse to abide to the law(I also heard Impark sued the city for this by-law). The city has stated their actions as illegal. The city asked that any private ticket you recieve be forward it to the police and the companies will be fined for each ticket. I have no idea on the outcome as private companies are still issuing tickets.

[ronny1980]

actually, I know my roommate walked away from $2000 parking ticket last year when she graduated. That's why I followed her way. but I like to hear more cases.

Btw, the tickets itself is not related to MTO. My roommate just sold her car last month. No hassle at all.

Im not sure about York...but this is how it is for Waterloo:

As long as the car is not under your name...and you get ticketed by the UofWaterloo police...you can jus ignore it..

but if you get ticketed too many times they will evetually tow...happened to my friends...

If the car is under your name....they can NOT let you graduate until you have paid it off..

buddy has over 1K in tickets but from the UofWaterloo police...car not under his name.....no problems..renewed license plate..no problems...graduated no problems..

[Nhiem]

Also wondering the same thing as pizzaman . . . how exactly are you smart enough to get into U of T, but dumb enough to run up $1700 in tickets?

Hehe, worry about yourself. He said YorkU(niversity). Not University of Toronto :lol:

[Final Lazy]

At UT, the the enforcer gives out city of Toronto parking tickets. I had to goto city hall to pay mine when I forget to show my parking permit at BCIT. They treat everything so seriously at U of T, but then we are serious students. :razz:

But how much is parking at York? Is it like $900/semester or something? Isn't 900<1400?

Going to U of T, I have learnt that the world functions very systematically. You pay for the parking permits, and the money goes to maintaining the lot and hiring enforcers who are there to keep your car "safe". If everyone doesn't pay, the system break down. I know that University is harsh and a lot of students are pretty poor, but think.

[doraemi]

if you DO wanna pay, go to the William Small Centre to bargain with them

a friend of mine had a $100 which in the end, he paid only $20. Just ask nicely, beg and plea ;)

[DragonZealot]

IIRC if you own the car --> no graduation

If someone else own the care --> one or more of the following
- collection agency
- small claims court
- bad credit history

One day they are going to tow away your car and when you go pick it up they are going to present the $$$ bill to you and your car will stay in the pound till you paid in full.

[lunaticcc]

IIRC if you own the car --> no graduation

You do graduate with a degree. York just won't give you the diploma, allow you to go to your convocation or help you in some administrative matters, but you still graduate.


If someone else own the care --> one or more of the following
- collection agency
- small claims court
- bad credit history

One day they are going to tow away your car and when you go pick it up they are going to present the $$$ bill to you and your car will stay in the pound till you paid in full.
Just to let you know, the towing companies (under a private tow), will tell you they will not release the car until it is payed. This is not true, but they will never tell you this. They will bicker and be stubborn but under a private tow, they have to release your car. Then they go through the same process you mentioned above.

- collection agency
- bad credit history
- small claims court

[HowEver]

There are some parking tickets given at York by parking agents with constabulary powers. These are city tickets. They won't withhold your diploma for these (and this is the same thing as not graduating), but they will make a difference when you go to renew your license.

[McLaren]

I had about 250 dollars worth of parking tickets when i was graduating last fall, and was forced to pay or they wouldn't let me convocate or receive my degree. The car was not even under my name, but they said the owner of the car's address was the same as mine, and the next person to graduate would have to pay it. So i paid the stupid fine.

I hate york.

[HowEver]

Since you sign on to these rules when you agree to go to York, why would anyone sympathize?

How hard is it to park properly? Why should those who pay properly for parking have to subsidize your use of the roads, lots, etc.?

No sympathy here.

[reqle55]

Since you sign on to these rules when you agree to go to York, why would anyone sympathize?

How hard is it to park properly? Why should those who pay properly for parking have to subsidize your use of the roads, lots, etc.?

No sympathy here.



Wow, you're quite a guy!!!
Its like saying, you drive and someone hits you...you're loosing alot of blood, but no one should care becuase its your fault for driving in the first place!

so next time you're in trouble, i hope no one stops to help you!

[tip]

I had about 250 dollars worth of parking tickets when i was graduating last fall, and was forced to pay or they wouldn't let me convocate or receive my degree. The car was not even under my name, but they said the owner of the car's address was the same as mine, and the next person to graduate would have to pay it. So i paid the stupid fine.

I hate york.

Because you were a deadbeat and didn't pay?

[McLaren]

"hello my name is tip, look at me everyone i am a stupid newbie"

http://www.geocities.com/deadlockdomain/images/rage/stfunoob.jpg

[Rehii]

Lol! :D

[HowEver]

Wow, you're quite a guy!!!
Its like saying, you drive and someone hits you...you're loosing alot of blood, but no one should care becuase its your fault for driving in the first place!

so next time you're in trouble, i hope no one stops to help you!

How do you get from paying a parking ticket (for what, parking in a disabled space? blocking a fire lane? not displaying a parking pass properly? what?)

to letting someone suffer if they are in an accident?

How is helping someone get out of parking tickets similar to helping an accident victim? I have a fairly good imagination, and even a few degrees, and that is a stretch.

Despite that, the next time you are in an accident, I hope you get the help you need.

But if you double park and block in another car, they can tow you.

[tip]

"hello my name is tip, look at me everyone i am a stupid newbie"

http://www.geocities.com/deadlockdomain/images/rage/stfunoob.jpg

I take it from your ad hominem attack that you agreed with my assessment of you?

[arsenal6]

You guys are quite rediculous. Anyways yorku fines & parking is overpriced. I am told by people who work in yorku that if your car is towed u got 15 minutes to get it off bennett centre as if your parking there.

It will not be added to your MTO license. A 20 dollar ticket they put interest on it which is stupid. If i were you would not pay unless bound by a degree. Give em hell.

This isn't dt parking should not be 2 dollars for 30 minutes these are students after all ( they r raising the prices nxt semester (N)) so **** them

[UncleSteve]

You guys are quite rediculous.

You actually revived a 6 year-old thread that was last posted in 4 years ago!?!?

[Sogeking]

Check the tickets, there is a good chance that even though they are issued by the university they are city tickets, & if they are tied into the mto you're f***ed when you go to renew your plates.

Also wondering the same thing as pizzaman . . . how exactly are you smart enough to get into U of T, but dumb enough to run up $1700 in tickets?

i felt i too had to revive the tread to post a fail

'how exactly are you smart enough to get into U of T, but dumb enough to run up $1700 in tickets?'
wrong school fail :D

[user01]

Uh, $1400 is like 3-4 semester parking. I think you got owned, lol... :lol::lol::lol:

[dhodgin]

I think the way most people get tickets is parking over the 3 hour limit

If you park on the new roads south of the parking lots south of Seneca there is a 3 hour time limit

However there is no signage anywhere to tell you and I only found out because I saw a parking dude driving down the road checking license plates and I asked him one day when I was parking.

The parking fees are rediculous ... $450-$600 per semester so I can understand why people try to get away with parking for free for 4 hours on the side street directly behind the parking lot that costs $150 a month which is 3/4 empty.

You would think york would take a hint and make the prices reasonable and fill the parking lot and make just as much if not more money than having the lots empty. Although I parked in the parking garage today for $14 for 6 hours and it was packed from noon to 5pm.

Not looking forward to paying $500 for parking for the semester if you can take a chance and park for free on the side road right beside the lots I don't blame people. Plus that whole article about york issuing parking tickets being illegal (http://www.yugsa.ca/?section_id=6&content_id=399) coming out a few days ago makes me wonder if I should just take my chances.

I go to Seneca anyway so I wonder if they would withhold my degree when I graduate next year. (I own my car)

[apexuw]

A. Parking Warning From Howard Moscoe, Councillor Ward 15

The following is the text of a public warning Howard Moscoe placed in the Excalibur, August 19, 2009:

WARNING TO ALL STUDENTS

When you register this fall do not give The University any information about any vehicle you are driving to campus, especially your license plate number and ownership data.

- York University has been issuing private parking tickets to students since 1990

- The University utilizes the vehicle information you provide to identify you so they can issue these tickets

- In July of 2004 the city of Toronto passed a bylaw making it illegal to issue private parking tickets but York continues to issue them

- The tickets are enforced by withholding marks, transcripts and even degrees for non-payment

My office has filed a complaint with the ombudsman regarding this practice and I would encourage you to do the same.

The Ombudsman is:

John D. McCamus
Ombudsman, York University
Osgoode Hall Law School
4700 Keele Street
North York, Ontario
M3J 1P3
jmccamus@osgoode.yorku.ca

We are considering taking legal action against The University. If you have received a York issued parking ticket or have a parking ticket story to tell, contact Ben Rothman, (416) 392-4028, brothman@toronto.ca

Howard Moscoe, Councillor Ward 15,
Chair of Licensing and Standards for the City of Toronto

[LaserEnvy]

If you have received a York issued parking ticket or have a parking ticket story to tell, contact Ben Rothman

Yes, I have a story:

I didn't pay it.

[pnyknights]

hey, does anybody have experience of dealing parking tickets in Yorku University.

I heard if your vehicle is not registered with Yorku, they cannot do anything about it besides keeping sending you parking tickets and statement. (coz they will get your address from MTO)

I've accumulated more than $1400. any suggestions? Thx :oops:

lol yorkie's.....just because we know how to use a fork doesn't necessarily mean we know how to park (dammint that doesn't rhyme!)


Check the tickets, there is a good chance that even though they are issued by the university they are city tickets, & if they are tied into the mto you're f***ed when you go to renew your plates.

Also wondering the same thing as pizzaman . . . how exactly are you smart enough to get into U of T, but dumb enough to run up $1700 in tickets?


i felt i too had to revive the tread to post a fail

'how exactly are you smart enough to get into U of T, but dumb enough to run up $1700 in tickets?'
wrong school fail :D

I was wondering the same thing too! UofT isn't the only university in the GTA people! **ahem** Ryerson is an 'institute' :razz:

Not sure if they still do, but when I was at york, the parking lot south of the TEL building would just open the gates after 12am....

[mysticalinfluence]

How the hell do you think he got in to university wise guy?!?
What kind of comment is that? Do you think someone who has accumulated parking tickets and knows of a way to avoid paying is considered too dumb for university?

Short answer, yes we do.

[csheyang]

So it is illegal for York to issue the parking tickets. I got a ticket, I don't plan to pay. But I don't want the collection agency calling and credit history of the owner going down (is it true?).

So what can I do? File it with the city and they will fine York for issuing illegal tickets?

[jamezgt]

I just got a ticket and I'm wondering how they get your information because I don't own the car, so how would they pin you?

[reynold]

i too have received a couple of parking tickets by York U. i was parking in the gated lot but i dont have a parking permit. wasn't really planning on paying it but just want to see what options are available to avoiding these stupid parking tickets

[Qbit]

i too have received a couple of parking tickets by York U. i was parking in the gated lot but i dont have a parking permit. wasn't really planning on paying it but just want to see what options are available to avoiding these stupid parking tickets

Come on now...

[phomp]

$1,400 in accumulated in tickets and they never towed your vehicle? I have seen them tow vehicles on campus before.

BTW, if you are the owner of the car and you owe that much in fines they can hold back your degree and transcripts until the fines are paid from what I have been told. A little hard for them to do this unless your car is registered with the school (IE- you bought a parking pass at one point in time).
If the car is your parents or registered in someone elses name than you are fine because they can not hold anything from you, and those fines will not stop you from renewing your licence or anything of that nature.

[reynold]

$1,400 in accumulated in tickets and they never towed your vehicle? I have seen them tow vehicles on campus before.

BTW, if you are the owner of the car and you owe that much in fines they can hold back your degree and transcripts until the fines are paid from what I have been told. A little hard for them to do this unless your car is registered with the school (IE- you bought a parking pass at one point in time).
If the car is your parents or registered in someone elses name than you are fine because they can not hold anything from you, and those fines will not stop you from renewing your licence or anything of that nature.

thats good news. shut up Qbit

[Qbit]

thats good news. shut up Qbit

Really? You use somebody elses services then choose to not pay and then ask how to avoid having them bill you. Don't use it.

[reynold]

Really? You use somebody elses services then choose to not pay and then ask how to avoid having them bill you. Don't use it.

yea so what if i do, i get away with it almost every time. im not going to pay $800 for a parking permit for two semesters on top of my tuition which is almost 4gs per semester when i could get away with free parking. What sounds like a better financial decision to you?

[1xTiMeR]

yea so what if i do, i get away with it almost every time. im not going to pay $800 for a parking permit for two semesters on top of my tuition which is almost 4gs per semester when i could get away with free parking. What sounds like a better financial decision to you?

Then don't drive to school, a Better financial decision. If you're complaining how much school costs, either drop out and don't pay, or suck it up and abide by the systems.

It's that black and white... complicated people tend to blow everything out of proportion when it's caused by their own stupidity.

[reynold]

Then don't drive to school, a Better financial decision. If you're complaining how much school costs, either drop out and don't pay, or suck it up and abide by the systems.

It's that black and white... complicated people tend to blow everything out of proportion when it's caused by their own stupidity.

OR i can continue driving to school, continue parking for free, not pay their "private parking tickets," and screw the system. how about that?

[help_questions]

Then don't drive to school, a Better financial decision. If you're complaining how much school costs, either drop out and don't pay, or suck it up and abide by the systems.

It's that black and white... complicated people tend to blow everything out of proportion when it's caused by their own stupidity.

he is abiding by the system.
he parked where he shouldn't have
he got a ticket
now he is trying to evaluate his options.

it does not sound like stupidity to me, as he is fully aware that he is taking a chance. is it a bad decision? maybe...but OP appears to have calculated his risk.

[Mrs_Popo]

My brother use to rack up tickets all the time. I will never divulge his secret.

[1xTiMeR]

OR i can continue driving to school, continue parking for free, not pay their "private parking tickets," and screw the system. how about that?

I can care less. If people weren't so caught up in their complaining, they would have their reality in check and would've used their common sense

[1xTiMeR]

he is abiding by the system.
he parked where he shouldn't have
he got a ticket
now he is trying to evaluate his options.

it does not sound like stupidity to me, as he is fully aware that he is taking a chance. is it a bad decision? maybe...but OP appears to have calculated his risk.


If he was strictly abiding by the system, he would pay that ticket in a heartbeat. So no, he is NOT abiding by the system but merely playing chance of any future consequences and quite frankly, stupidity caused this problem in the first place.

[reynold]

haha owned. just shut up and spend your mommy and daddys money because saving money is obviously stupid. If these tickets were actually written by parking police i would pay it regardless but in this case yorku tickets are a joke.

[Qbit]

Saving money is one thing; stealing is another. If you use it, pay for it. If you don't want to pay or think prices are outrageous, don't use it. At least be honest about what you are doing instead of rationalizing it as "saving money" or "balancing the universe".

Asking how to use it and avoid paying is akin to asking how do I steal from the university.

[1xTiMeR]

haha owned. just shut up and spend your mommy and daddys money because saving money is obviously stupid. If these tickets were actually written by parking police i would pay it regardless but in this case yorku tickets are a joke.

Don't assume I don't save and have to rely on my parents. Who and what is owned? Go ahead and get some common sense.

"I complain about money and I waste it on insurance and gas money where I can wake up 20mins early to take the transit. Oh What? A ticket? Oh well, I'll just ignore that.."

If you wanted to save money, go take the transit or better yet, drop out because you'd be saving more.. If you don't take york parking seriously, then continue to do as you please and hope for the best; nobody cares, including me.

Don't complain about money. You signed up for thousands of dollars in tuition, you might as well hit your head on the wall because you weren't aware when you did right? Also, I'm not sayings it is right or wrong to pay the ticket, don't complain about the finances... :|

[help_questions]

If he was strictly abiding by the system, he would pay that ticket in a heartbeat. So no, he is NOT abiding by the system but merely playing chance of any future consequences and quite frankly, stupidity caused this problem in the first place.

but within the system, there are options after the ticket has been issued.
he could pay the ticket
he could negotiate a lesser fine
he could ignore the ticket and suffer the consequences (late fees, transcripts issues, delayed grad)

[reynold]

Don't assume I don't save and have to rely on my parents. Who and what is owned? Go ahead and get some common sense.

"I complain about money and I waste it on insurance and gas money where I can wake up 20mins early to take the transit. Oh What? A ticket? Oh well, I'll just ignore that.."

If you wanted to save money, go take the transit or better yet, drop out because you'd be saving more.. If you don't take york parking seriously, then continue to do as you please and hope for the best; nobody cares, including me.

Don't complain about money. You signed up for thousands of dollars in tuition, you might as well hit your head on the wall because you weren't aware when you did right? Also, I'm not sayings it is right or wrong to pay the ticket, don't complain about the finances... :|

lol wow advising me to drop out real common sense there. im not complaining about tuition fees, they are priced but it will give me a brighter future and paying for parking isn't going to benefit me because these tickets arent linked with MTO so suck it

[rob2010]

I got a couple of parking tickets( ~13) so totaling around say 500 ( 40 each).

I do not go to york university, what can they do to me?

I read an article from CBC, basically a city counsellor stating not to pay for york university tickets as they are illegal.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/09/03/york-parking.html

How likely is that they will take legal action or send me to collections agency. If so what can they do?

Could they take any action if a city counselor is telling us NOT to pay.

Thanks

[yao416]

Couple... HAHAHAHAH

[phomp]

They can not really do anything to you... they could send you a letter but I would just chuck it. As long as you do not go there and do not continue to park there you should be fine...

btw, I like how you call it a couple... lol.

[Deadmau555]

you could say a dozen not a couple lmao.

[skyset]

You know you could have bought a parking permit right?

[booblehead]

If you don't go to York, why do you park at York (illegally) and keep on getting tickets? Perhaps, one of these days, the person writing the tickets will call in the parking office and have your car towed ... it's illegally parked in private property ?

Another life's mystery!

[Kenneth]

If you don't go to York, why do you park at York (illegally) and keep on getting tickets? Perhaps, one of these days, the person writing the tickets will call in the parking office and have your car towed ... it's illegally parked in private property ?

Another life's mystery!

He was obviously scared of parking in the Jane and Finch area! He'd rather take his chances and park at York (possibly getting buggered on the walk through there dimly lit paths).

AFAIK: York is still private property so you technically don't have to pay them ever. If you do end up being a student there, they won't let you graduate till you pay.

[ItzMe]

If the city counselor is willing to cover potential expenses then sure, go for it... :P (in other words, sounds like some hot aired politician but that's just me).

It's private property (I believe) meaning they can't tow you away if you're parked on the street somewhere for having too many unpaid tickets (like the city could) - but, if you park on their property again, they may be within their rights to have you towed (I honestly don't know for sure though - Ontario may be quite different than BC in those regards).

It's also very likely that they'd be within their rights to send the tickets to collections (much like say any other private lot run would) - and if you don't pay you'll get a hit on your credit report.

... and I love how a couple turned into 13 :D Classic!

[pnyknights]

If you don't go to York, why do you park at York (illegally) and keep on getting tickets? Perhaps, one of these days, the person writing the tickets will call in the parking office and have your car towed ... it's illegally parked in private property ?

Another life's mystery!

+1 I was wondering that too...If you don't go to york then what are you parking there for?? Wait are you the guy I pick up my 'stuff' from??

[Luken]

if its worth anything, i have a tendency to park with my main car in the pond road area with fake permits. i haven't been busted for the fake permits but i do have a tendency to always reach my car length. I've been ticketed two times so far, nothing harsh.

the pond and village area seems to be the best place to escape the radar of the school parking officers but it is quite the distance from the main campus.

the other car i drive(Evo VIII) doesn't seem to exist in their database as they've written me up but never on a printed ticket:lol:

[bill3384]

I was googling for possible consequences for not paying my ticket and I read this thread. I just received a statement in my brother's name for 2000$ from York. I, by no means, am planning to pay that, for many reasons:

1- I am abiding by the system, to everyone who is saying otherwise. It is illegal for anyone other than the city to issue parking tickets in order to collect money. They do have the right to tow my vehicle, but never did it, do you know why? because all they care about is money and not the law! if they took the students interest in account they would've built more parking spaces and reduced the parking fee which I think is outrageous for a university. So they are not using their right to tow my vehicle and I am using my right to not pay, simple as that!
2- Those who are saying that if you can't afford it, don't use it; I would like to tell you that I can not waste my time commuting in the ttc for 3 hours a day to get back and fourth into school. I'd rather spend my time studying or working, isn't that logical :)?
3- By my final year now, I came to a definite conclusion that this university is all about business and making money, which disappoints me and now I have regrets to actually graduating from here. I have this anarchic tendency inside of me to screw it over and over in every way I can :p

To all of you that paid 800$ per year to park, I do sympathize with you..I wouldn't want to be in your shoes! but it is not us (non-payers) to be angry with, but it is the school who is taking advantage of us. If you feel taken advantage of, this link might ease your pain a little: http://www.yugsa.ca/?section_id=6&content_id=399

Cheers!

[DevilzAdvikit]

Hoooooolyyyyy craaaaaaap. My cousin goes to seneca and has parked on the York Campus. We live in the same house... I just got the first letter EVER from York.

What should I do - I've never received a letter from them - I even went and asked them - and they said no - no tickets... than magically today I got a letter.

4000
What the hell should I do, thanks.

Concerned Student

[nsX-]

lol 4k worth of tickets....

[JRFD23]

Any thoughts on the popular Assiniboine Rd $15, 3 hour maximum tickets? City of Toronto issued?

http://maps.google.ca/maps?sourceid=Mozilla-search&q=Pond+Road%2C+Toronto+ON

Basically, tickets from the City of Toronto Meter Maids, on the roads south of Pond road in the Village (not York U issues)?

[JRFD23]

Damn. Since is a $15 City issued ticket, no legit chance at fighting it eh?
Maybe if it was $30, I could add it to my backlog of parking tickets waiting to get thrown out.

[Luken]

Any thoughts on the popular Assiniboine Rd $15, 3 hour maximum tickets? City of Toronto issued?

http://maps.google.ca/maps?sourceid=Mozilla-search&q=Pond+Road%2C+Toronto+ON

Basically, tickets from the City of Toronto Meter Maids, on the roads south of Pond road in the Village (not York U issues)?


Damn. Since is a $15 City issued ticket, no legit chance at fighting it eh?
Maybe if it was $30, I could add it to my backlog of parking tickets waiting to get thrown out.

i wouldn't risk it. i believe thats the main reason theres always a few squad cars rolling around campus, easy money.(thought it was for our safety, go figure:mad:) the village seems to be an alright alternative for now. however you have to be selective were you park in there and watch the signs. there meter maids present daily now.

[vinzanity]

Hey guys!


I just got a statement addressing my mother (whom the family car is registered to) to pay a large sum of fines for parking. I have no intentions of paying up this bill as I simply cannot afford it and I have heard from my friends saying that you are not obligated to pay as long as the car is not registered under your name. Fortunately, my online student account does not show any amount outstanding, however, I am afraid this will hold up my graduation as I have already applied to graduate this summer.

And how does all this affect my mother? Would they tack on this outstanding amount to when she has to renew her license plate validation sticker this summer?

Seeking any advice from former and current York'ers. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[JohnEnglish]

Hey guys!


I just got a statement addressing my mother (whom the family car is registered to) to pay a large sum of fines for parking. I have no intentions of paying up this bill as I simply cannot afford it and I have heard from my friends saying that you are not obligated to pay as long as the car is not registered under your name. Fortunately, my online student account does not show any amount outstanding, however, I am afraid this will hold up my graduation as I have already applied to graduate this summer.

And how does all this affect my mother? Would they tack on this outstanding amount to when she has to renew her license plate validation sticker this summer?

Seeking any advice from former and current York'ers. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.If you don't pay the fines then York will just end up towing the car. They also sometimes cross reference ownership information with student information and they'll send you a parking notice.

Depending on the amount it can also go to collections and will end up on your mom's credit report.

Why are you accumulating so many parking tickets? Why not just get a parking pass?

I know that the York University Act grants universtiy police with ticket granting powers so it's possible that it'll show up when iat the MTO when it comes time to renew the plate sticker. All the university and colleges have been given ticket granting status by the MTO so it's not like tickets from a private company you can ignore.

[Luken]

If you don't pay the fines then York will just end up towing the car. They also sometimes cross reference ownership information with student information and they'll send you a parking notice.

Depending on the amount it can also go to collections and will end up on your mom's credit report.

Why are you accumulating so many parking tickets? Why not just get a parking pass?

I know that the York University Act grants universtiy police with ticket granting powers so it's possible that it'll show up when iat the MTO when it comes time to renew the plate sticker. All the university and colleges have been given ticket granting status by the MTO so it's not like tickets from a private company you can ignore.

please say your joking, it just gets more and more ridiculous.

[aka_stunna]

Hey guys!


I just got a statement addressing my mother (whom the family car is registered to) to pay a large sum of fines for parking. I have no intentions of paying up this bill as I simply cannot afford it and I have heard from my friends saying that you are not obligated to pay as long as the car is not registered under your name. Fortunately, my online student account does not show any amount outstanding, however, I am afraid this will hold up my graduation as I have already applied to graduate this summer.

And how does all this affect my mother? Would they tack on this outstanding amount to when she has to renew her license plate validation sticker this summer?

Seeking any advice from former and current York'ers. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Nothing will happen to you. Your mom will continue to ge letters asking for payment. Toss em.

[vinzanity]

Nothing will happen to you. Your mom will continue to ge letters asking for payment. Toss em.

Thats what I've been wanting to hear. Thanks for making my day. :cheesygri

[DEZI_EL]

Thats what I've been wanting to hear. Thanks for making my day. :cheesygri

I've been receiving letters for the past 2 years.
Only time it will be an issue is when the registered car owner wants to enroll at York. They will need to clear up the fines in order to get their degree.

I've never had an issue with renewing my plates either.

[wyseguy]

I have about $750 worth of tickets from York U for my car. It was registered in my dad's name and he's been receiving letters periodically ever since I graduated (4 years ago). We just throw them out as it has yet to affect either of us. AFAIK the parking enforcement there is privatized and the most they can do is withold your diploma, which didn't matter as the car wasn't in my name at the time.

I should also add that since then I no longer have that car, my parents have since purchased two new cars in their name and renewed their licenses, and the former plates are no longer used either.

Alternatively, I've heard of people actually paying the lump sum on these tickets and being able to bargain the fines down to a few hundred from thousands. Might be worth a try if you want to pay them (I don't).

Hope that helps.

[danns]

umm... won't it affect you credit somehow if you don't pay?

[Luken]

umm... won't it affect you credit somehow if you don't pay?


seems no one has a definite answer.

[oilers99fan]

I got a couple of parking tickets( ~13) so totaling around say 500 ( 40 each).

I do not go to york university, what can they do to me?

I read an article from CBC, basically a city counsellor stating not to pay for york university tickets as they are illegal.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/09/03/york-parking.html

How likely is that they will take legal action or send me to collections agency. If so what can they do?

Could they take any action if a city counselor is telling us NOT to pay.

Thanks

Ethical issues aside -- Most generally, it makes most sense to pay the tickets within the specified discount period, saving roughly 50% of the ticket amount. However, the best decision does depend on your specific situation.

If you're a York student -- pay your tickets. Today, some form of professional or graduate education is becoming increasingly common as a minimum barrier to decent jobs. Even if you don't plan on it now, you may want to do this later. I'd highly recommend you pay the tickets. It's generally easier, cheaper, and less stressful just to pay as you get them. Moreover, a new trend is emerging where employers verify degrees & diplomas -- which York would likely hold. Right now, not the norm. 10 years from now? Maybe so. Then they'll have you by your balls, and good luck with negotiating.

If you're a Non-York student (or a York student who doesn't care about transcript / diploma verification) -- with a couple of tickets, they'll likely leave you alone. It's not worth the hassle or the fee. If you're like me, who travels from Western to York for weekends at a time to visit the girlfriend, tickets accumulate fairly rapidly, and it will become worthwhile to send collections after you. Once this happens, you put your credit rating at risk. For most people, your fines are not worth this. A slight change on your credit profile could cost you literally tens of thousands on a mortgage & auto-loans due higher interest rates. Also, some jobs also request credit reports for character judgment.

The Toronto City counsellor is a loud-mouth moron. If you read the article closely, there is no precedent that these tickets can be ignored. Rather, he simply encourages you to challenge it based on a technicality -- glossing over the fact that the law that the city passed was overturned and their subsequent appeal was unsuccessful. Is it really worth it? Also...Lets say your credit profile does get smeared and after years of fighting, you win. It could take several more years to actually remove it from your credit profile. It is irresponsible to encourage this behaviour without warning students of the risk associated with it. As a side-note about that CBC article...LOL @ the hopeful teacher's college candidate with 2k in tickets. She made a gamble and lost, eat your crow, pay up, and shut up.

Anyways -- pay your tickets. Not doing so just encourages York to remove your car for violations -- costing you well over $300 per incident (cost of towing + release from compound). I've legitimately forgotten to pay for day passes or slept in too long to get one for the next day. I'd way rather a $20 ticket than a towing. I think I'm not alone.

[Leonard L]

I just got a statement for $450. I lived on res this year and have been parking in the restricted lot. At first I figured that it was private property so I threw the tickets out, but it seems it's iffy on the credit rating subject, I definitely don't want to ruiin my mom's rating so I payed. But it definitely beats the $900 they're charging for a year pass :)

[JP79]

I have tickets from York U dating as far back as a year and a half ago. I have since sold my car, bought a new one, and renewed my license plate. Like others have said, they can't really do anything to force you to pay, besides threaten to withold transcripts. They'll just send a monthly statement showing how much you owe, adding a $5 admin fee each time.
The Bylaw in Toronto which states that these tickets are illegal STILL HOLDS TRUE. There's been battles back and forth, decisions in courts made, and then overturned, and overturned again. What York U is doing is still illegal, which is why the councillor voiced his concerns.
They can't send you to collections if the basis of the "debt" is ILLEGAL. You can't take somebody to collections for something that isn't even legal in the first place.

York U is merely using bully tactics. Don't pay.

[tjayl]

I have tickets from York U dating as far back as a year and a half ago. I have since sold my car, bought a new one, and renewed my license plate. Like others have said, they can't really do anything to force you to pay, besides threaten to withold transcripts. They'll just send a monthly statement showing how much you owe, adding a $5 admin fee each time.
The Bylaw in Toronto which states that these tickets are illegal STILL HOLDS TRUE. There's been battles back and forth, decisions in courts made, and then overturned, and overturned again. What York U is doing is still illegal, which is why the councillor voiced his concerns.
They can't send you to collections if the basis of the "debt" is ILLEGAL. You can't take somebody to collections for something that isn't even legal in the first place.

York U is merely using bully tactics. Don't pay.

I certainly hope they do withhold your transcripts. Then you can explain to potential employers that you can't show them transcripts because you feel you shouldn't have to pay to park your car.

[JP79]

I'm not a York U student. :razz:

[connzz]

Heyyy, I recently got a ticket from york for the most ridiculous thing and I would like to take them to court.. maybe get a little court experience :P
It would be great if someone who has dealt with yorku's stupid ticket supported this and possibly appear as a witness? XD

[xShaelx]

So here it is, I'm going to try and give you the facts and make as few assumptions as possible. Having been a student at York, I've dealt with just about every scenario regarding this parking stuff. I've been ticketed. I've been towed. I've paid parking fines, and I've also not paid parking fines. While I have not done any research outside of what I already know to have happened (ie. I have not read over what the exact laws and regulations are, however they have been quoted in this thread and commented on already), I think there is sufficient information to provide a few guidelines for how to deal with the parking fines.

So I'll provide you the most extreme case I know, who happened to be my good friend through my entire university career. He amassed a whopping $4K in parking fines. If it isn't obvious enough, to clarify for those a little slower than others here, a majority of the fines here are issued due to parking in a designated pay and display lot and not paying. Not for taking up 2 or 4 or 6 spaces, or parking in a handicap spot without a proper permit. Since many students feel the prices are outrageous (I do have to PARTIALLY agree - I'll explain soon), the solution tends to be: Park in a pay and display lot, not pay, get a ticket, not pay the ticket, and then rinse and repeat. With a $5 admin fee per month on unpaid fines and $40/ticket (undiscounted after x many days), this adds up fairly quickly.

So what happened to my friend? Big surprise... NOTHING. He has graduated and got his diploma. A few more facts, he was not the registered owner of the vehicle. And perhaps a slightly more important fact, the registered owner of the vehicle (parent) called in to state that they were using the vehicle while it was parked at York. In response to that (over the telephone), York claimed that they were going to sue. The final important fact. This was 3 years ago. Did a court trial ever take place? NO. It did not.

I happen to know 2 such cases so far. The one mentioned above. And another good friend of mine who also accumulated an amazing $6K in fines and graduated happily. This 2nd friend never had the registered vehicle owner phone in and claim they were driving the vehicle while it was on campus. Rather he went to his convocation, got his diploma, and never even heard anything about outstanding fines. But I happen to know that to date, for the latter case, mail from York is still coming demanding payment. The former case, I am not entirely sure, but *my first assumption of this post* is that he is also receiving mail asking for payment still. And I can confirm this if anyone finds it to be a crucial piece of information.

Now, having been provided 2 extreme cases of York students getting parking tickets and graduating, I think you can make a few solid conclusions, at least about the bit of having your diploma held. And make a clear note, that neither were owners of the vehicle they were driving. If you ARE THE REGISTERED OWNER, you may actually have your diploma held, this is indeed true.

As for me, well I like to apply a little bit of logic to this situation. Last I checked, private companies were allowed to issue tickets to vehicles. *Assumption #2*. However, what stops such a company from issuing an outrageous fine of say... $5000 for something as dumb as occupying 2 spaces? Would you pay such a fine, even if you know that you commited that infraction? I don't imagine so. Now there may be some sort of limit on fines for particular infractions. But I don't see why it should exceed your typical traffic ticket given by an actual parking enforcement officer. If your normal fine for not paying at a meter is $30, why is York charging $40? That just adds a fake feel to the whole thing in that they generated their own set of rules and regardless of it being fake or not, you can fight a ticket issued by a private company just as much as you can an actual ticket issued by the city. Additional points that add the fake feel of the york parking fines: After being towed, I was not forced to pay to have my vehicle released. In fact, my vehicle wasn't locked in any form. It was just relocated to a different lot. And in a separate event I phoned in to complain about a larger fine I had and had it removed entirely after a half hour long argument on fairness.

So I can tell you this much, without a doubt. You can park at york, get tickets, and you (the driver of the so called vehicle getting tickets), can get away with it so long as you are not the registered owner. Whether or not something happens later is unknown to me. But you think that after 8 years or more years of discussions on York's parking tickets, there would have been a documented court case in which York has sued an offender for outstanding fines. If someone can actually find such documentation, and I do encourage you to do so, that would reveal a lot.

And finally, the last part of my enormous post, I'm sorry for paining you with so much information. Why I partially agreed with parking prices being outrageous? I now purchase a parking permit to use the lots at york. I simply don't want annoying mail coming to me every month. Yes I could definitely save both on parking and toilet paper by not paying, but we can all agree that the constant mail gets annoying. Unreserved lot permits are currently at $348 or so after taxes. If you do some quick math (account for days you actually park at york, etc etc..), your daily cost for parking comes out to just under $5/day. At least that is my case for being at york 5 days a week. I do not see how this differs much from rates at other universities. I find this to be more than reasonable. As posted earlier, lots do need to be maintained, especially the open lots in the winter. And the garages as well. So dishing out $5/day to have a usable spot for me seems appropriate. And don't tell me they are too far. All outer lots are a 5 - 10 minute walk form campus walk. You have legs, use them. If you're that lazy, ask york for a transport from your lot. They actually do offer that service. The only part of I find brutal is $2 / 30 mins at the regular pay and display lots. I'm not sure what the justification for that rate is, but the solution for you is written above quite clearly. If you don't feel you would get your money's worth using a permit due to the short hours you have to park for, then park in the york village. You have up to 3 hours of free parking there. 4 or 5 hours if you want to press your luck as you might get tagged for parking more than 3 hours. If you will claim that $348 is STILL unaffordable, ask yourself if you applied for a bursary this year. If it's so difficult, why not have the university pay YOU to pay for your parking permit. Clearly you fall under the financial needs category, and have a just reason for needing money. So at least for York students, click on your damn financial profile, and apply for a bursary.

I would encourage any further posts on this matter to build on the the facts revealed here. So if you can find any documentation of court cases. Or perhaps know someone that was not the vehicle owner and had their diploma held. It would help.

Otherwise, at least to me, it appears that York parking tickets are bogus.

[YorkU_economics]

So here it is, I'm going to try and give you the facts and make as few assumptions as possible. Having been a student at York, I've dealt with just about every scenario regarding this parking stuff. I've been ticketed. I've been towed. I've paid parking fines, and I've also not paid parking fines. While I have not done any research outside of what I already know to have happened (ie. I have not read over what the exact laws and regulations are, however they have been quoted in this thread and commented on already), I think there is sufficient information to provide a few guidelines for how to deal with the parking fines.

So I'll provide you the most extreme case I know, who happened to be my good friend through my entire university career. He amassed a whopping $4K in parking fines. If it isn't obvious enough, to clarify for those a little slower than others here, a majority of the fines here are issued due to parking in a designated pay and display lot and not paying. Not for taking up 2 or 4 or 6 spaces, or parking in a handicap spot without a proper permit. Since many students feel the prices are outrageous (I do have to PARTIALLY agree - I'll explain soon), the solution tends to be: Park in a pay and display lot, not pay, get a ticket, not pay the ticket, and then rinse and repeat. With a $5 admin fee per month on unpaid fines and $40/ticket (undiscounted after x many days), this adds up fairly quickly.

So what happened to my friend? Big surprise... NOTHING. He has graduated and got his diploma. A few more facts, he was not the registered owner of the vehicle. And perhaps a slightly more important fact, the registered owner of the vehicle (parent) called in to state that they were using the vehicle while it was parked at York. In response to that (over the telephone), York claimed that they were going to sue. The final important fact. This was 3 years ago. Did a court trial ever take place? NO. It did not.

I happen to know 2 such cases so far. The one mentioned above. And another good friend of mine who also accumulated an amazing $6K in fines and graduated happily. This 2nd friend never had the registered vehicle owner phone in and claim they were driving the vehicle while it was on campus. Rather he went to his convocation, got his diploma, and never even heard anything about outstanding fines. But I happen to know that to date, for the latter case, mail from York is still coming demanding payment. The former case, I am not entirely sure, but *my first assumption of this post* is that he is also receiving mail asking for payment still. And I can confirm this if anyone finds it to be a crucial piece of information.

Now, having been provided 2 extreme cases of York students getting parking tickets and graduating, I think you can make a few solid conclusions, at least about the bit of having your diploma held. And make a clear note, that neither were owners of the vehicle they were driving. If you ARE THE REGISTERED OWNER, you may actually have your diploma held, this is indeed true.

As for me, well I like to apply a little bit of logic to this situation. Last I checked, private companies were allowed to issue tickets to vehicles. *Assumption #2*. However, what stops such a company from issuing an outrageous fine of say... $5000 for something as dumb as occupying 2 spaces? Would you pay such a fine, even if you know that you commited that infraction? I don't imagine so. Now there may be some sort of limit on fines for particular infractions. But I don't see why it should exceed your typical traffic ticket given by an actual parking enforcement officer. If your normal fine for not paying at a meter is $30, why is York charging $40? That just adds a fake feel to the whole thing in that they generated their own set of rules and regardless of it being fake or not, you can fight a ticket issued by a private company just as much as you can an actual ticket issued by the city. Additional points that add the fake feel of the york parking fines: After being towed, I was not forced to pay to have my vehicle released. In fact, my vehicle wasn't locked in any form. It was just relocated to a different lot. And in a separate event I phoned in to complain about a larger fine I had and had it removed entirely after a half hour long argument on fairness.

So I can tell you this much, without a doubt. You can park at york, get tickets, and you (the driver of the so called vehicle getting tickets), can get away with it so long as you are not the registered owner. Whether or not something happens later is unknown to me. But you think that after 8 years or more years of discussions on York's parking tickets, there would have been a documented court case in which York has sued an offender for outstanding fines. If someone can actually find such documentation, and I do encourage you to do so, that would reveal a lot.

And finally, the last part of my enormous post, I'm sorry for paining you with so much information. Why I partially agreed with parking prices being outrageous? I now purchase a parking permit to use the lots at york. I simply don't want annoying mail coming to me every month. Yes I could definitely save both on parking and toilet paper by not paying, but we can all agree that the constant mail gets annoying. Unreserved lot permits are currently at $348 or so after taxes. If you do some quick math (account for days you actually park at york, etc etc..), your daily cost for parking comes out to just under $5/day. At least that is my case for being at york 5 days a week. I do not see how this differs much from rates at other universities. I find this to be more than reasonable. As posted earlier, lots do need to be maintained, especially the open lots in the winter. And the garages as well. So dishing out $5/day to have a usable spot for me seems appropriate. And don't tell me they are too far. All outer lots are a 5 - 10 minute walk form campus walk. You have legs, use them. If you're that lazy, ask york for a transport from your lot. They actually do offer that service. The only part of I find brutal is $2 / 30 mins at the regular pay and display lots. I'm not sure what the justification for that rate is, but the solution for you is written above quite clearly. If you don't feel you would get your money's worth using a permit due to the short hours you have to park for, then park in the york village. You have up to 3 hours of free parking there. 4 or 5 hours if you want to press your luck as you might get tagged for parking more than 3 hours. If you will claim that $348 is STILL unaffordable, ask yourself if you applied for a bursary this year. If it's so difficult, why not have the university pay YOU to pay for your parking permit. Clearly you fall under the financial needs category, and have a just reason for needing money. So at least for York students, click on your damn financial profile, and apply for a bursary.

I would encourage any further posts on this matter to build on the the facts revealed here. So if you can find any documentation of court cases. Or perhaps know someone that was not the vehicle owner and had their diploma held. It would help.

Otherwise, at least to me, it appears that York parking tickets are bogus.

Wow - great post! This is all you really need to know about parking at YorkU. I have still have one question, though. I was hoping you were going to talk about your car being towed because the exact same sh*t happened to me yesterday. I was late for tutorial and unknowingly parked along a fire route, I came back an hour later to find that they towed my car to a different lot. Now, here is where it gets tricky. I went to Parking and Transportation services at the William Small Centre and some dude came about 10 minutes later (I'm assuming he works for parking and transportation) and told me to sign this document after having written down all the relevant information, ie)name, license plate, driver's license number, owner of the vehicle, phone number, etc.. Now, he asked me who the owner of the car was and I said my dad (which he is). After that, he called someone to find out exactly where my car had been towed and it was towed to another lot. So, do you think I can still get away with not paying the ticket since they know who the owner is and who was driving the vehicle at the time during the infraction? Will that document that they made me sign have any effect? Thanks in advance, please reply back!

[e46_323]

I don't think you can get away with free parking now that they will have your information tied to the fact that you were driving your dads car and they now know it is you.

My friends always told me that as long as the car is not under your name, do not pay any of the parking tickets york issues to you. However, if you paid one of the tickets, they will now know that you are specifically tied to that plate and if you repeat again, they will with hold your diploma until you pay your parking fines.

I got sick of all these parking bs @ york and now rent a spot in the village right behind the brown apartment on sentinel road (very close to scott library and osgoode)

the village is 1 hour parking limit now instead of 3hrs and 8PM-8AM is free parking for those who didn't know

[xShaelx]

Wow - great post! This is all you really need to know about parking at YorkU. I have still have one question, though. I was hoping you were going to talk about your car being towed because the exact same sh*t happened to me yesterday. I was late for tutorial and unknowingly parked along a fire route, I came back an hour later to find that they towed my car to a different lot. Now, here is where it gets tricky. I went to Parking and Transportation services at the William Small Centre and some dude came about 10 minutes later (I'm assuming he works for parking and transportation) and told me to sign this document after having written down all the relevant information, ie)name, license plate, driver's license number, owner of the vehicle, phone number, etc.. Now, he asked me who the owner of the car was and I said my dad (which he is). After that, he called someone to find out exactly where my car had been towed and it was towed to another lot. So, do you think I can still get away with not paying the ticket since they know who the owner is and who was driving the vehicle at the time during the infraction? Will that document that they made me sign have any effect? Thanks in advance, please reply back!

When my car was towed I had to do pretty much what you did. Unfortunately this was so long ago that I have no idea what information I provided to have my car released. I do remember, 100%, having to fill out a form to be taken to the lot where it was moved to, I just don't remember what information I provided. All I remember is that they asked me to pay them and since this happened right when I started going to York, I really had no money on me. So they just told me the fine total and let me go. Obviously, following that, I either paid, or would have started getting that monthly crap mail from them asking for payment. Either way it was very silly when I think about it now, an actual car impound would not release your vehicle until they receive payment. Yet York somehow returned my car without payment, smells fishy (with the legalities perhaps?), but you make what you want of it. Either way, I don't think I can tell you whether you are safe or not from having to pay York's parking fines since I'd only be assuming things. But if we look at this logically, then you might find that you haven't really struck out. One thing, it seems that York having your information gives them the 1-up on you. However, if you have dealt with the towing fees and whatever happened that day, it does not make a clear indication as to who is driving the vehicle at any given point. So while they know that you do in fact drive that car, and you do go to York with it, it does not really allow anyone to assume that all future parking violations are your doing. However if you do happen to gain some large sum of parking fines and York decides it's time to go to court with all those people owing money (which to my knowledge has yet to happen), you can see how them having proof of your parking violation will work against you quite well.
As for having your diploma held, well it all goes back to who the registered owner is. If they try to hold it, you can claim you were not driving the car. In your particular case, they might say, well you had a violation on this day, so you DO drive this vehicle. But of course, that doesn't pin you to any outstanding fines beyond the day you were towed. So then it's really up to them to prove you are responsible for any outstanding fines, and they might, they might not. I really don't know. Perhaps whether they can or can't depends on how much hard disk space is available for their CCTV cams to record to. And I suppose it also comes down to whether or not the parking fines York dishes out are even legal. But that route doesn't seem to be the preferred one I find, and I'm really not sure how that might even turn out.
Hopefully that helps a bit. Just be cautious. You might find all this isn't worth the hassle or the headache once you want to graduate. But use your own judgement.

[mjaman]

I don't go to York but I still receive these letters. I also own the car, is it safe to say that I can call York and tell them I have nothing to do with the claim and what they are doing is illegal?

[kiasu]

I don't go to York but I still receive these letters. I also own the car, is it safe to say that I can call York and tell them I have nothing to do with the claim and what they are doing is illegal?

+1

same here...

[sky_touch]

+1

same here...

Another +1... same here too lol. I have a $300 fine but i never went to York (brother used the car and got a ticket there). Been receiving letters for the past 2 years.

[tsxnation]

I used to go there 7 years ago and I have 4 years of unpaid tickets. The car was not registered to my name at the time though so maybe that's why.