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Sonbuster
Sep 29th, 2006, 11:59 AM
how do you get a coworker to pay for fare without bluntly asking? i'm devising a cup in my cup holder labelled "Fare" or "Tips" and have them figure it out.

furthermore if you were the carpool-ee would you prefer to pay $2 one way home to your door or take the bus [even if you had a metropass]; and the ride home was offered at 11:30PM when i finished my shift. so remember although you do have a metropass would you still request that carpool ride home at night?

sorry if the situation seems confusing you may have to reread the thread again to understand the scenario. thanks

UrbanPoet
Sep 29th, 2006, 12:02 PM
Um... its only fare to ask everyone chip in a certain amount a week for GAS.... its understandable since gas is so expensive these days.
Long gone are the days of $0.35L gas and driving everywhere without complaining about cost.

HighFlyer
Sep 29th, 2006, 12:03 PM
I would initially make intentional stops at a gas station. Usually they get the hint.

Sonbuster
Sep 29th, 2006, 12:06 PM
I would initially make intentional stops at a gas station. Usually they get the hint.

lol even if your tank is on is just a mm off full? i used to compare prices of every gas station i pass by :)

Carnage
Sep 29th, 2006, 12:20 PM
How did you get into a carpool situion without making it clear?

I wouldn't just start carpooling people and not iron out at the start what the costs would be.

It's only fair that the people getting the rides pitch in for gas.

Or even share driving duties. That's how I've done it before where I drove one week, and then the other guy drover the next, so on, and so on.

Sonbuster
Sep 29th, 2006, 12:38 PM
How did you get into a carpool situion without making it clear?

I wouldn't just start carpooling people and not iron out at the start what the costs would be.

It's only fair that the people getting the rides pitch in for gas.

Or even share driving duties. That's how I've done it before where I drove one week, and then the other guy drover the next, so on, and so on.

well, we are "privelidged/cursed" [depending on how you look at it] of owning a vehicle. and with this power comes great responsibility. and i feel one of these responsibilities is to help people who are "unfortunate/fortunate" of not owning a car. sure we pay for gas, insurance, the vehicle itself and costs related to repair and maintenance. is $2 a ride too much to ask for?

one thing i've noticed is this. passengers will offer to pay and b/c i'm such a nice guy as many carpool drivers we decline the offer " oh that's ok, don't worry about it"

if you are a carpool-ee , passenger, i've created a new law for the book of carpool-ee ethics.

1. do not offer to pay, we, as the drivers, will not take it b/c we are too nice.
instead, just toss money onto the passenger seat or a designated cup [i'm asking for $2 or 2x the $/L at the moment, whichever is higher] and close the door and proceed home

2. do not hand us money, because we/i will not take it, once again, drop the money and proceed home.

i used to be carpool-ee myself and i found this to be very effective.

lost~user
Sep 29th, 2006, 12:49 PM
if you are a carpool-ee , passenger, i've created a new law for the book of carpool-ee ethics.

1. do not offer to pay, we, as the drivers, will not take it b/c we are too nice.
instead, just toss money onto the passenger seat or a designated cup [i'm asking for $2 or 2x the $/L at the moment, whichever is higher] and close the door and proceed home

2. do not hand us money, because we/i will not take it, once again, drop the money and proceed home.
That is awesome, I like that idea, make a print out of that and stick it somewhere visable.. I should just keep a tip cup in my car all the time. For those "just in case" times when I have to drive ppl home....

Sonbuster
Sep 29th, 2006, 12:55 PM
never refuse a ride request, even if they don't have money. just be sure it isn't a recurring problem.

Sylvestre
Sep 29th, 2006, 01:25 PM
bluntly ask! why avoid it.

jerryhung
Sep 29th, 2006, 01:36 PM
I don't see why you shouldn't discuss this issue up front, if the carpool is regular

I carpool every day, and we have the "rate" all set
I prepay, and start crossing off dates on the paper calendar every day I ride

occasional "rides" are not carpool's, and should be seen as a "courtesy", as long as you're not offering courtesy rides 5 days a week

Carnage
Sep 29th, 2006, 02:20 PM
well, we are "privelidged/cursed" [depending on how you look at it] of owning a vehicle. and with this power comes great responsibility. and i feel one of these responsibilities is to help people who are "unfortunate/fortunate" of not owning a car. sure we pay for gas, insurance, the vehicle itself and costs related to repair and maintenance. is $2 a ride too much to ask for?

one thing i've noticed is this. passengers will offer to pay and b/c i'm such a nice guy as many carpool drivers we decline the offer " oh that's ok, don't worry about it"

if you are a carpool-ee , passenger, i've created a new law for the book of carpool-ee ethics.

1. do not offer to pay, we, as the drivers, will not take it b/c we are too nice.
instead, just toss money onto the passenger seat or a designated cup [i'm asking for $2 or 2x the $/L at the moment, whichever is higher] and close the door and proceed home

2. do not hand us money, because we/i will not take it, once again, drop the money and proceed home.

i used to be carpool-ee myself and i found this to be very effective.

So if they offer you say no. But if they don't just drop money on the ground they're being cheap?

I don't understand this logic.

If it's a one time thing becaus someone's car is in the shop, yeah no big deal. But if you're in a regular carpool setup a set agrreed on rate. Don't expect people to drop random change in a tip jar, or on the ground.

Handa
Sep 29th, 2006, 03:46 PM
The way it works in my carpool is we all share on the parking pass. At my job a parking pass is 120 monthly. There are 4 of us. We each drive one day a week and then there's a floater day each week, every week. Everyone drives their own day, and you drive your floater once a month.

No one pays for anyone elses gas.

One person pays for the parking pass and everyone else owes them money at the last Friday of each month.

Simple.

ill_mango
Sep 29th, 2006, 04:05 PM
If it's a regular thing and they have offered you money and you don't take it, then I do think it's your fault.

Personally I never charge people if I am going that way anyways, but if I was in a carpool situation I definately would.

If you feel awkward, just put up a tips jar or whatever

AzNCrAzYcOoLeR
Sep 29th, 2006, 04:23 PM
i pay my friend 10 bux a week to car pool

does that sound reasonable? Work is about 25km from home .

ullyeus
Sep 29th, 2006, 04:31 PM
1. do not offer to pay, we, as the drivers, will not take it b/c we are too nice.
instead, just toss money onto the passenger seat or a designated cup [i'm asking for $2 or 2x the $/L at the moment, whichever is higher] and close the door and proceed home

2. do not hand us money, because we/i will not take it, once again, drop the money and proceed home.

i used to be carpool-ee myself and i found this to be very effective.

I'm not following, you seem to have an issue...you want to get paid...but you also don't want them to offer to pay because you will turn them down? You just want them to sneak the money into your wallet? wtf

Carnage
Sep 29th, 2006, 04:48 PM
i pay my friend 10 bux a week to car pool

does that sound reasonable? Work is about 25km from home .

Sounds about right.

250km/week. So depending on the car roughly 1 tank every two weeks.

So if a tank costs approx $40 you're paying $20 of it.

Supershyguy
Sep 29th, 2006, 04:48 PM
It seems like you really want money from them, and you are scared to ask?

just go to a gas station and fill up one morning and see if they chip in on their own. usually they get the point.

i think it would be better to set up a rate or something

it would be easiler. like $50 a month or something

Supershyguy
Sep 29th, 2006, 04:49 PM
Sounds about right.

250km/week. So depending on the car roughly 1 tank every two weeks.

So if a tank costs approx $40 you're paying $20 of it.


I personally think that you he should chip in a little more then just gas. especiall when you guys are friends.

Carnage
Sep 29th, 2006, 04:51 PM
I personally think that you he should chip in a little more then just gas. especiall when you guys are friends.

I figure covering your share of gas is plenty.

Being freinds if anything would mean giving less.

dolphie
Sep 29th, 2006, 05:00 PM
There's a girl who lives around the corner from me, who doesn't drive, never has.
she recently started hitching a ride with me, which is no problem at all, she's always on time.
As of late, she's insisted on giving me ten bucks a day! that's crazy! It'd cost her about 30 there and back in cabs, but really, its only costing me two minutes and about a nickle in gas.
She insisted, so after refusing time and time again, and her inisiting more, i just started taking it. she's happy to be giving it though, makes her feel like less of a burden, although she isn't one at all.

Sonbuster
Sep 30th, 2006, 12:30 AM
I'm not following, you seem to have an issue...you want to get paid...but you also don't want them to offer to pay because you will turn them down? You just want them to sneak the money into your wallet? wtf

there are ppl who are in my situation. i know i'm not alone, but you have to understand the first time you carpool someone home, they'll offer money and chances are you won't take it b/c you think it's a one time thing and this one time carpool is a courtesy as someone would call it. b/c you didnt take the money the first time, the carpool-ee in some cases assumes that they don't have to pay for subsequent trips. after 3-4 trips it really gets on your nerves. sorry i'm new to carpooling as a driver, and to be honest i feel guilty for taking the money. i don't know why i just do, but as everyone knows you need that money.

Sonbuster
Sep 30th, 2006, 12:32 AM
There's a girl who lives around the corner from me, who doesn't drive, never has.
she recently started hitching a ride with me, which is no problem at all, she's always on time.
As of late, she's insisted on giving me ten bucks a day! that's crazy! It'd cost her about 30 there and back in cabs, but really, its only costing me two minutes and about a nickle in gas.
She insisted, so after refusing time and time again, and her inisiting more, i just started taking it. she's happy to be giving it though, makes her feel like less of a burden, although she isn't one at all.

she must have read the book on carpool-ee ethics. if you feel guilty for taking too much compromise at 5 and you'll both feel better.

be443
Sep 30th, 2006, 06:41 AM
I am a a passenger in a car pool right now. Basically I do not get a lift home, but rather a lift to the closest bus stop that can take me to the metro, which shaves off 45 minutes of my trip. We haven't bluntly discussed costs but I give her $20 everyonce in a while - I don't offer it I say "here you go - thanks for the ride, have a nice day" and let her walk off to her apartment which is on my route home. I'm thinking $40/month is OK because she is not going at all out of her way as she drops me right in front of her apt and I still have another 45 minutes to go.

AM

dolphie
Sep 30th, 2006, 08:01 AM
if you feel guilty for taking too much compromise at 5 and you'll both feel better.
i've already tried that too. she says she's always given everyone else ten per day, and that's what she's giving me, no ifs ands or buts.

I'm just going to accept it now. I've tried to tell her at least four times now, and she's insisting.
It'll just irritate her probably if I keep doing it, she obviously wants me to have it.
I know for a period of time last year I was hitching with someone, and it bothered me if they wouldn't accept money too....it made me feel like less of a burden to be able to give them some money, even though I knew they meant it when they said it was no problem at all.

so it's a good deal for us both, but hell! TEN bucks?!?! lol

Sonbuster
Sep 30th, 2006, 09:15 AM
use the extra $5 and get some coffee or donouts, or if there are fundraisers in the office/workplace pay for her contributions aswell. sure it's a little more work for you to allocate money, but it could make you feel better. you could even simply state, "you pay me too much for gas, let me contribute your share of the lotto pool."