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Impossibles
Dec 16th, 2006, 12:36 PM
I have a 2 year old Rio Carbon (5GB HD) DAP that I'm replacing with a Creative Zen V Plus 4GB.

What the heck do I do with my old Rio? Its all scratched up, the battery only lasts about 8 hours now (if that). It still works as great and sounds as great as ever...I just gave in to new technology and wanted a flash player.

The only thing I can think of is opening it up...inside is a 5GB CF microHD memory card, and apparently the first batch of Rio Carbons had a memory card inside that could plug into any CF card device and work, including cameras.

426Hemi
Dec 16th, 2006, 12:55 PM
You could try selling it in the BST forums?

mahpoaht
Dec 16th, 2006, 02:00 PM
Or even better, make it a X-mas present :D

Octavius
Dec 16th, 2006, 02:01 PM
I think I know *exactly* what you can do with it....
This guy had a really good idea...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzV2fImonQI

;)

wonton1017
Dec 16th, 2006, 04:03 PM
I use it to store files and transfer files from one comp to the other :)

P__S__2
Dec 16th, 2006, 04:11 PM
You can always give it to me. :cheesygri

jshen
Dec 17th, 2006, 01:14 PM
BST would be a good way of getting rid of it
or
give it to a younger sibling or relative (atleast its in use rather than collecting dust)

ainsane
Dec 17th, 2006, 01:36 PM
Just don't rip it apart like I did and try to use the microdrive in a camera because the firmware on it doesn't allow it! I think the very first Carbons have microdrives that allow it to be used in CF devices though.

lastchild01
Dec 17th, 2006, 03:36 PM
I think I know *exactly* what you can do with it....
This guy had a really good idea...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzV2fImonQI

;)

beautiful~!

ben_liu
Dec 17th, 2006, 03:36 PM
I think I know *exactly* what you can do with it....
This guy had a really good idea...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzV2fImonQI

;)

holy lol thats crazy.. lol DONT TRY THAT AT HOME... and im gonna try it.. with some1's broken ipod :)

Oversized Rooster
Dec 17th, 2006, 04:28 PM
The HD was the only recognizable item there...but even that won't run anymore! :D

ShadowVlican
Dec 17th, 2006, 04:30 PM
Where do your old MP3 players go to die?
my mother's hands

CameraBill
Dec 17th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Can you plug in a CF card where the microdrive was? Power usage should be considerably less to increase the battery life.

Ghetto_Child
Dec 17th, 2006, 07:59 PM
holy lol thats crazy.. lol DONT TRY THAT AT HOME... and im gonna try it.. with some1's broken ipod :)

Uhm I highly recommend against that unless you have someone experienced in toxic volatile chemical handling. See the battery if broken can explode. Li-ion batteries contain Lithium metal (Li) that is charged (Li+). Lithium reacts to plain water taking the H2 (two H+ in this case) out of it and making the Li+ a neutral non-charged/de-ionized Li. It is so sensitive it can smoke due to regular humidity in the air. Toss a pebble sized chunk in water and it makes a small explosion with actual flames. I think it's a megenta coloured flame. Lithium is supposed to be one of the "stable" metals from the Alkali group on the Periodic Table of Elements. I'm sure such a big reaction instantly puts water at very close to 100 degrees celcius.

I know for Calcium metal, which I've personally done already, drop a pebble in a test tube of water and the testube boils instantly bubling and the clear water turns white exactly like milk. You can't even tell milk apart from water with calcium dissolved in it. I believe that's the whole reason milk is white in the first place.

As for the Ni-Cd and Ni-MH well Ni-Cd means Nickel-Cadmium. Cadmium is toxic, carcinogenic, and easily radioactive (or maybe the radioactive part is just platinum can't remeber right now). Nickel I think is as safe as iron but comming from the battery they will be in their ionized forms so Ni+2 and Cadmium I don't know the charge. Nickel and Cadmium are transition metals so they have more than one possible charge and I havn't studied transition metals yet either. Still any ion can be dangerous because ions are looking to balance their charge be become stable neutral charge molecules. They do so by taking elements and Electrons from the environment (chemical reactions or electrical discharges) or by fireing off Neutrons and Protons (that's radiation).

Ni-MH is an interesting one. It means Nickel-Metal Hydride. Normally when a metal and non-metal reacts we write it's chemical symbol as Metal Non-Metal. NaCl = Sodium Chloride = table salt. With acids we write the notation as Hydrogen first and non-metal after. HCL = Hydro Chloric Acid = Stomach acid.This is because metals give off electrons and non-metals absorb electrons so the metal gives the non-metal an electron and their charges get neutralized like opposing poles on magnets. Hydrogen likes to play the part of the metal usually giving off an electron for something to absorb. In the case of Metal Hydrides the opposite happens, the metal still gives an electron but the hydrogen absorbs it. So blending that will release Nickel+ Ions and Hydrogen- Ions. Finally Hydrogen is a stable unstable element. It doesn't like to react to anything on it's own but if you give it some energy it can start a chain reaction for almost anything because heat makes it expand much like the rate an explosion expands. So you wouldn't want to get it on your body because it could pull molecules out of your body like from your skin cells which would give you chemical burns.

Of course I'm not a professional at this I'm just reciting what I remember from high school and early cegep chemistry classes.

Impossibles
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:04 PM
Can you plug in a CF card where the microdrive was? Power usage should be considerably less to increase the battery life.

No, IIRC, you have to pull some wires to disconnect the microdrive.

ainsane
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:10 PM
No, IIRC, you have to pull some wires to disconnect the microdrive.

Disconnecting the microdrive is easy. It's prying the case open that's the real *****!