Broke the pins off a CPU, is it over??

[Untruest]

Hi, did something i've done before but with very little force this time. I was uninstalling the cpu (athlon 3700+ s939) from my system and the arctic silver compound was really stock to the heatsink so as i pulled i ripped the whole thing out >:( i managed to straighten all the pins and got it back in it's slot (after detaching it from the heatsink of couse) and it still didn't work after realizing it was missing two (2) pins (yeh). So i don't do soldering but is it possible, like in general to repair my cpu it was working fine right before it's accident?

thnx

[enko]

It'd be easier to learn how to fly before being able to solder those pins back.

[Jon Lai]

It'd be easier to learn how to fly before being able to solder those pins back.

+1

To the op - your CPU is gone. Yes, you can solder it back, but I wouldn't try - you'll be pulling hairs. s939 3200 are like $80 at NCIX so just pick up a new one instead.

[ji2o0k]

2 broken pins?

I would say it is over....just get a new CPU......pick one up from the BST: Computers...

[Untruest]

Thnx guys, i think i might ebay this s939 3700+ and i ordered the 3200+ from NCIX and i am using that right now. Geez it just sucks to lose this cpu.

Thnx guys i appreciate the quick responses.

[ullyeus]

Thnx guys, i think i might ebay this s939 3700+ and i ordered the 3200+ from NCIX and i am using that right now. Geez it just sucks to lose this cpu.

Thnx guys i appreciate the quick responses.

You are going to ebay your broken cpu?

[Untruest]

yea some enthusias who thinks he can repair is more than willing to get the deal i only expect to make 20$-40$ which is a sweat deal not even a year old yet.

[ppl4golf]

That really sucks...I know exactly what to do (like keeping the CPU roasting a little before attempting removing the heatsink) but still I managed to rip the heatsink off along with the CPU, only one pin was bent, I was able to bent it back and up running again. This is the second time I did to this poor pin, I am not going to be lucky next time.

[Untruest]

Well to be honest, this wasn't the first time it's happened to me, and i've done it before with a different system and while i was removing this one i was thinking that it might happen again but before even really applying that much pressure i ripped everything out >:(

[the one]

I like to do a little twist (left and right) and shout of the heatsink prior to lifiting it up.. find it loosens the strength and it makes it easier to pull out (no pun intended)

It was bad with the s478. >:(

[Untruest]

Actually i also did that prior to removing it, it was quite slippery, like it was ready to be removed (or there could of been an excess of thermal compound) and as a matter of fact i think that's why i tugged.

[Kwirky]

R.I.P Little Athlon64 3700+, you will be missed. My condolences, Untruest

:cheesygri

[Untruest]

LMAO :lol: , i c u've already given up on finding an ebay doctor, where it can live wit someone who takes better care of it, lol ;)

Thnx

[tdotcbc84]

now i got a question for everyone.

how do you take the HSF off if it is stuck to the CPU
via compound

[jochooi]

You mean epoxy compound ?! I think you're stuck for good (no puns intended)

[tdotcbc84]

:confused: :confused:

[Amourek]

how do you take the HSF off if it is stuck to the CPU
via compound

Arctic Silver 5 is very sticky. If over-applied, it can take the CPU right off with the heatsink even if the lever is locked. It's happened to me a few times, but luckily I never lost any pins.

[ShadowVlican]

I like to do a little twist (left and right) and shout of the heatsink prior to lifiting it up.. find it loosens the strength and it makes it easier to pull out (no pun intended)

It was bad with the s478. >:(
that's what i do now after pulling out the CPU as well :lol:

never used to happen, i guess the clipping pressure for modern HSF is extremely strong when compared back to AthlonXP days with the small cores and no heatspreader

[Ogata]

now i got a question for everyone.

how do you take the HSF off if it is stuck to the CPU
via compound

I'd apply some rubber cement carefully on the sides to loosen up the compound then slowly remove the cpu.

[bob0]

now i got a question for everyone.

how do you take the HSF off if it is stuck to the CPU
via compound

twist the hsf before removing it...like mentioned before

[Jon Lai]

Can't you unlock the CPU before you pull it out so that even if the heatsink doesn't get unstuck, the CPU will come out with it?

[WiseOx]

Ditto, did this just last week, for the first, and hopefully last time. Scared the crap out of me, when it happened. Got lucky, not pins ruined. Feel for you pal.


Arctic Silver 5 is very sticky. If over-applied, it can take the CPU right off with the heatsink even if the lever is locked. It's happened to me a few times, but luckily I never lost any pins.

[Untruest]

Yup that's exactly what i use Artic Silver 5, nothing but the best. Just no so good for uninstalling :S. Just to let everyone know, twisting is not bullet proof. Did that and it gave me a false signal to pull. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it as it may help.


I'd apply some rubber cement carefully on the sides to loosen up the compound then slowly remove the cpu.

where do u get that? How effective is it? And do u just apply on the sides?

[ShadowVlican]

Can't you unlock the CPU before you pull it out so that even if the heatsink doesn't get unstuck, the CPU will come out with it?
i'd think that the HSF is totally blocking the lever to unlock the CPU

[Firestorm ZERO]

Can't you unlock the CPU before you pull it out so that even if the heatsink doesn't get unstuck, the CPU will come out with it?

Maybe for those tower heatsinks you can but try doing that with a Zalman 7700.

[Daijoubu]

AS5 too sticky?! Maybe your guys are putting too much onto the core...

[Oversized Rooster]

Arctic Silver 5 is very sticky. If over-applied, it can take the CPU right off with the heatsink even if the lever is locked. It's happened to me a few times, but luckily I never lost any pins.

Today I started rebuilding an old Socket 478 system into a new case with a new HD. The CPU is a Prescott 3GHZ with a Zalman CNPS7000B cooler.

I pulled the cooler off, and then I observed how the CPU was "missing" from the socket. :lol:

I didn't overapply AS5...but that heatsink was on there untouched for like 4 years. I did not lose any pins, and the CPU continues to function perfectly.

The lever of the socket was still locked, too. :eek:

[Untruest]

I am surprised at how many people this is happening to. I am starting to think this is quite common. HMMM, they might need to redesign. And for those CPUs, weren't the pins on the mobo?

[Amourek]

It happened to me using a Zalman 7000. This was when AS5 first came out and I had no idea that there were new application instructions. Once I cleaned it all off (I had spread it completely over the heatspreader) and just used a single small drop in the center, I had no problems with taking the heatsink off (twisting of course).

[Oversized Rooster]

I am surprised at how many people this is happening to. I am starting to think this is quite common. HMMM, they might need to redesign. And for those CPUs, weren't the pins on the mobo?

For S478 and S939, the pins were on the CPU.

With LGA775 and AM2, the pins are on the mobo.

For the consumer market, it started with Intel's LGA775. It's much easier to blame bent pins on the mobo maker. This way Intel no longer got complaints and attempted warranty claims on bent pins on their CPUs.

AMD followed suit.

Having the CPU stick to the heatsink upon removal is not dangerous on an LGA775 or AM2 platform since the pins remain on the mobo.

[Untruest]

http://www.obengware.com/tips/2004/howinstalllga7754h.jpg

HHhmm looking at this LGA775 it seems impossible to yank the heatsink and cpu off together (the door closes on the cpu providing as a mediator)

[crazdefool]

i think the op should start using bga socket chips like the lga775 etc.. just dont screw up the motherboard socket lol

[Oversized Rooster]

HHhmm looking at this LGA775 it seems impossible to yank the heatsink and cpu off together (the door closes on the cpu providing as a mediator)

Truth is spoken here.

[iamfat]

whats the pins for? do you really need so many of them.. like cant the PC run with 99.9% of them? lol, computer illiterate here.

[Untruest]

whats the pins for? do you really need so many of them.. like cant the PC run with 99.9% of them? lol, computer illiterate here.

Funny u should say that, With my Intel PIII tualatin s370 cpu, i checked out the specifics from intel's website and some of them have no purpose, only there for testing. And others for clock speed but all in all u end up breaking the pin u need, lmao

Btw i did this wire trick with my Tualating where i used copper wire, wrapped it around pairs of pins to increase the voltage (which is bios locked) for ultimately higher frequency (1.6ghz) i still have that system in my closet, lol

[bob0]

whats the pins for? do you really need so many of them.. like cant the PC run with 99.9% of them? lol, computer illiterate here.

i'm sure u can run without some of them (i was missing one pin on my intel p4 and it ran) but most likely it will be very unstable as it was in my case

i believe the 'useless' ones would be the grounding pins...but they're there for a reason...

[ppl4golf]

My system won't even start when I 'thought' all the pins were in but it wasn't the case...and the dang heatsink was already locked on...I should be thankful it is still working.

[GTI]

Funny u should say that, With my Intel PIII tualatin s370 cpu, i checked out the specifics from intel's website and some of them have no purpose, only there for testing. And others for clock speed but all in all u end up breaking the pin u need, lmao

Btw i did this wire trick with my Tualating where i used copper wire, wrapped it around pairs of pins to increase the voltage (which is bios locked) for ultimately higher frequency (1.6ghz) i still have that system in my closet, lol

I did that mod trick to get that processor to work on an older BX board. From what I remember you had to jump 2 pins with a fine wire and cover a couple of the pins. That was a tough job so someone said he just pulled out the pins with some pliers and it worked. So then people started to pull the pins but some of them pulled out the wrong pins, haha. Well, I dunno if you want to plug it in and see if it those missing pins really do anything, but might be worth a try.

[Untruest]

I did that mod trick to get that processor to work on an older BX board. From what I remember you had to jump 2 pins with a fine wire and cover a couple of the pins. That was a tough job so someone said he just pulled out the pins with some pliers and it worked. So then people started to pull the pins but some of them pulled out the wrong pins, haha. Well, I dunno if you want to plug it in and see if it those missing pins really do anything, but might be worth a try.

LOL that's exactly why i didn't pull the pins from my tualatin, i wasn't gonna take any chances even if i got it for $40 off RFD. I guess i could do it now cuz i know it works, but whats then point i might want to undo it in the future so imma leave it. And if u meant i should try the 3700+ and see if the pins do anything, i did already and they must do something cuz the 3200+ works and it doesn't.

BTW about the pins broken on this CPU, it's on the very edge does this make it less of a hassle for soldering (cuz i'll sell it for more if so). And they are wipped clean so it's not even like there's a peace of the pin left or anything like that, it's all gone.

Maybe i should take a pic, but i need a server to upload it on.

[Derringdo]

I just replaced my old A64 3000+ with a X2 and I did the same thing as a lot of people in this thread (I pulled off the heatsink and tore the cpu out of the socket). Scared the crap out of me, but luckily no pins were broken off and the motherboard socket was fine too :lol:.

I didn't realize the AS5 would form such a sticky connection between the HSF and the cpu. I didn't even put that much on it, I squeezed out a small blob on the cpu heatspreader and smoothed it out to a very thin layer using an old credit card so that the AS5 just barely covered the heatspreader. Next time I know to wiggle the HSF a LOT before I try to pry it off! :cheesygri

[Polaren]

Hell everyone remember putting the Socket A heatsinks on? :rolleyes: LOL use the damn screwdriver and apply tons of force without slipping? and don't crack that die while your at it! Nevermind taking them off..

I remember people putting holes in their mobo because of their attempts at it.

[Untruest]

Hell everyone remember putting the Socket A heatsinks on? :rolleyes: LOL use the damn screwdriver and apply tons of force without slipping? and don't crack that die while your at it! Nevermind taking them off..

I remember people putting holes in their mobo because of their attempts at it.

With how tight these heatsinks are on, i think i was guilty of doing that with another one of my S939 mobos.

Don't forget about my question :arrowu: about the broken pins being on the outter edge.