New Computer, Ncix Vs Hp

[gman1975]

I can buy an HP m7680n from FS for $1089.99 Tax Included.

http://www.hp.ca/products/static/consumer/Fall2006/m7680n.pdf

Or here is the quote I got for NCIX.com:
21569
Coolermaster RC-534 Centurion 532 ATX Tower Case 5X5.25 1X3.5 4X3.5INT Black W/430W $79.99
22714
Biostar Tforce 965PT ATX LGA775 Conroe DDR2 965P 1PCI-E16 PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN Motherboard $121.65
22149
Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 Dual Core Processor LGA775 1.8GHZ 800FSB 2MB Retail $208.98
16141
Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB 8.9MS Hard Drive 3Year MFR Warranty $83.98
17372
Hauppauge Wintv PVR-150 Media Center Kit MPEG2 PCI TV Tuner Retail Box W/ Certified MCE Remote $105.00
20760
LG GSA-H22N DVD+RW 18X8X16 DVD-RW 18X6X16 Dual Layer 8X DVD-RAM 12X DVD Writer 2MB Black OEM W/ SW $36.99
17457
Sony MRW620 11-IN-1 Multi Card READER/WRITER INT 3.5IN Black MS/MS-PRO CF SD MMC XD OEM $11.00
21369
Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 with SP2 OEM English W/ Vista Upgrade Coupon $140.00
7842
PC ASSEMBLY AND TESTING (PRE-CONFIG OS IF PURCHASED) $1.00
18584
Corsair Value Select PC2-5300 2X1024MB DDR2-667 240PIN DIMM $165.98
20801
Sapphire Radeon X1600 Pro 128MB 128-BIT PCI-E VGA DVI-I TV Out Video $65.00
Shipping & Handling:
$30.00
Shipping Insurance (1.5%):
$15.29
SUBTOTAL:
$1,064.86
GST(6%):
$63.90
TOTAL:
CAD $1,128.76

Which is the better computer for the money???
The H/P has e6400 and dual 250gb h/d but custom build quality and parts????

Help me decide please.

[mingyang]

always build own or at least buy a custom PC

with $1100 you can build a nicer spec than the one you got there from NCIX although your TUNER does kill the budget here if you on a budget anyway

NEVER BUY FROM FS/BB

[gman1975]

always build own or at least buy a custom PC

with $1100 you can build a nicer spec than the one you got there from NCIX although your TUNER does kill the budget here if you on a budget anyway

NEVER BUY FROM FS/BB

So what changes do you suggest within reason???

[lincoln]

better video card, maybe a second harddrive so you can run RAID, also 2GB of OCZ Platinum XTC Rev 2 800mhz ram, $20 Corsair Dominator ram cooler.

[gman1975]

better video card, maybe a second harddrive so you can run RAID, also 2GB of OCZ Platinum XTC Rev 2 800mhz ram, $20 Corsair Dominator ram cooler.

That turns this into a $1400 computer, I was looking for suggestions on how to better improve what is their and keep the price around $1000 to $1100

[jolok]

if you can build you own, build your own.

HP computer comes with problem in some computers, you want to take the chance ?

[crimsona]

These days it's generally cheaper to go with pre-built than custom built. The only reason to go custom is to have better control over the quality of parts. Having said that, you're pretty much stuck with what you have.

You can't reduce the price much further without decreasing the parts a lot more, with the exception of buying Windows or not.

[Impossibles]

What is the main use for the PC?

[wonton1017]

Computers built by HP have the worst motherboard ever, you can't overclock on them. (I'm not sure if you're going to overclock or not, but since you're getting a E4300, you should...)

If you ARE overclocking, add $20 and get the ASUS P5B motherboard instead. (Excellent for overclocking, #1 i think.)

And the x1600 pro you chose can kill the 7300LE on the HP.

[lincoln]

650i mobo all the way

[tsehou]

Just so you know, HP uses Asus motherboards. You can see that on the HP's spec's site for the model.

[gman1975]

What is the main use for the PC?

Photo editing using CS2, some video editing, watching movies and watching/taping Tv shows to burn to DVD for the kids.

[gman1975]

Computers built by HP have the worst motherboard ever, you can't overclock on them. (I'm not sure if you're going to overclock or not, but since you're getting a E4300, you should...)

If you ARE overclocking, add $20 and get the ASUS P5B motherboard instead. (Excellent for overclocking, #1 i think.)

And the x1600 pro you chose can kill the 7300LE on the HP.

The biostar was rated great by Toms Hardware and anandtech. It is solid, reliable, inexpensive and offers good overclocking and features for the money.

[gman1975]

You can't reduce the price much further without decreasing the parts a lot more, with the exception of buying Windows or not.

What other option do I have not to buy windows???
I need an operating system and one that is for entertainment??

Do you know something I don't??

[198964]

Agree. Custom Built PC is better ... you can choose the components per your own requirements and your own usage of the computer....

u can buy a cheaper custom PC .. try CC or IFN or ESkynet, NCIx is too expensive and far away ... assuming u are in Toronto ... CC good prices while ES offer 500GB HDD free upgrade for now ..

198964




I can buy an HP m7680n from FS for $1089.99 Tax Included.

http://www.hp.ca/products/static/consumer/Fall2006/m7680n.pdf

Or here is the quote I got for NCIX.com:
21569
Coolermaster RC-534 Centurion 532 ATX Tower Case 5X5.25 1X3.5 4X3.5INT Black W/430W $79.99
22714
Biostar Tforce 965PT ATX LGA775 Conroe DDR2 965P 1PCI-E16 PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN Motherboard $121.65
22149
Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 Dual Core Processor LGA775 1.8GHZ 800FSB 2MB Retail $208.98
16141
Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB 8.9MS Hard Drive 3Year MFR Warranty $83.98
17372
Hauppauge Wintv PVR-150 Media Center Kit MPEG2 PCI TV Tuner Retail Box W/ Certified MCE Remote $105.00
20760
LG GSA-H22N DVD+RW 18X8X16 DVD-RW 18X6X16 Dual Layer 8X DVD-RAM 12X DVD Writer 2MB Black OEM W/ SW $36.99
17457
Sony MRW620 11-IN-1 Multi Card READER/WRITER INT 3.5IN Black MS/MS-PRO CF SD MMC XD OEM $11.00
21369
Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 with SP2 OEM English W/ Vista Upgrade Coupon $140.00
7842
PC ASSEMBLY AND TESTING (PRE-CONFIG OS IF PURCHASED) $1.00
18584
Corsair Value Select PC2-5300 2X1024MB DDR2-667 240PIN DIMM $165.98
20801
Sapphire Radeon X1600 Pro 128MB 128-BIT PCI-E VGA DVI-I TV Out Video $65.00
Shipping & Handling:
$30.00
Shipping Insurance (1.5%):
$15.29
SUBTOTAL:
$1,064.86
GST(6%):
$63.90
TOTAL:
CAD $1,128.76

Which is the better computer for the money???
The H/P has e6400 and dual 250gb h/d but custom build quality and parts????

Help me decide please.

[magical]

Couple of comments on the EQ you picked...

Get Rid of the LG DVD Burner in favor for a Pioneer 112D..

Why not go with a board with integrated video and then you can save some $$$ and get something better when you can afford it ....

[gman1975]

Couple of comments on the EQ you picked...

Get Rid of the LG DVD Burner in favor for a Pioneer 112D..

Why not go with a board with integrated video and then you can save some $$$ and get something better when you can afford it ....

I have heard LG burners are the best followed by Samsung, Lite ON and Sony. I have never heard of anyone using Pioneer before, do you have any websites on this?

I want some kind of video card because I heard it maked DVD and TV look better and also if I install Vista it will improve that as well. I will game a little but just older games so I think I have chossen an inexensive card that will do everthing I need but still allow me to game and run newer programs in the future. Or am I wrong here???

[bargainbug]

Buy a Mac. You have a family, and PCs will just give you a headache.

[magical]

I have heard LG burners are the best followed by Samsung, Lite ON and Sony. I have never heard of anyone using Pioneer before, do you have any websites on this?

I want some kind of video card because I heard it maked DVD and TV look better and also if I install Vista it will improve that as well. I will game a little but just older games so I think I have chossen an inexensive card that will do everthing I need but still allow me to game and run newer programs in the future. Or am I wrong here???

If you want your burner to fail after 1-2 burns then LG is the brand of choice ... for best drive for the money Pioneer 112D has the other ones beat pretty much with a few exceptions ...

If you get a different motherboard with the GMA3000 you won't have any problems with vista and will pretty much be on par with that card that you were looking at plus the motherboard will have more features than the one you were lookin at ..... You will still save a bit or at least break even and get a better board, definatly worth it ....

good luck.