PDA

View Full Version : Costco - 8GB Ultra II CF Question



JaGWiRE
Mar 5th, 2007, 10:24 PM
http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10289302&whse=&topnav=&browse=&s=1
Who will price match this? Henrys has it for $200 more! Bestbuy and futureshop don't carry the 8gb cards unfortunately.
If you could get it for $130-140, it'd be a super hot deal for any photographers out there.

JaGWiRE
Mar 5th, 2007, 10:31 PM
Oh, and Costco has the 4gb for http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10289302&whse=&topnav=&browse=&s=1
Will futureshop or bestbuy price match costco?
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10062468&catid=11431
$190 difference, so 10% of that difference or whatever would be about $20, and that would be a super hot deal.

BTW, maybe move this into the hot deals section?

zegerman
Mar 5th, 2007, 10:52 PM
Most professional photographers will only go as high as 1GB or 2GB .. anything bigger would be too much of a risk of data corruption

yes you can probably store all your pics on one 8GB card but what if the card fails .. you lose all your pics. where as if you split your pics up between 3-4 1GB cards and one gets corrupt you only lose a percentage of your pics not all

8GB cards are for pirates :lol:

waiting for the price to drop a little more on the 8GB cards myself
YAR!!! Avast ye matey!

JaGWiRE
Mar 5th, 2007, 10:59 PM
Most professional photographers will only go as high as 1GB or 2GB .. anything bigger would be too much of a risk of data corruption

yes you can probably store all your pics on one 8GB card but what if the card fails .. you lose all your pics. where as if you split your pics up between 3-4 1GB cards and one gets corrupt you only lose a percentage of your pics not all

8GB cards are for pirates :lol:

waiting for the price to drop a little more on the 8GB cards myself
YAR!!! Avast ye matey!
Yeah, I'm buying one BNIB for $130 USd off someone from FM at the moment, but I'd like a couple 4 gigabytes.
They can fail / do fail eventually, but I'm not particularly worried. I shoot on a 4gb CF card now. Swapping cards sometimes isn't that much of an option when shooting in a packed space and you can't reach in your bag.
My 30D raw files take up enough space regardless, I'd be able to get probably 900-100 shots on the 8gb card (Raw + L jpeg).
BTW, I don't have the patience to go removing data from 15 different cards. My friend has only like 3 cards, and he often forgets which is which, and forgets to copy files off, so he can't use the card when he shoots that day.

Cyber6
Mar 5th, 2007, 11:00 PM
Most professional photographers will only go as high as 1GB or 2GB .. anything bigger would be too much of a risk of data corruption

yes you can probably store all your pics on one 8GB card but what if the card fails .. you lose all your pics. where as if you split your pics up between 3-4 1GB cards and one gets corrupt you only lose a percentage of your pics not all

8GB cards are for pirates :lol:

waiting for the price to drop a little more on the 8GB cards myself
YAR!!! Avast ye matey!

Agree with you about the pro-photographers.. but I am eyeing this card and I am no pirate.. ;)

I am considering this card for my Axim. I have already an 4GB SD..but is getting a little crowded. The only thing to consider is that the Axim will not take advantage of the ultraspeed.. thus is possible to be getting an 8GB (non-ultra) for much less in the near future.


C.

JaGWiRE
Mar 5th, 2007, 11:08 PM
Agree with you about the pro-photographers.. but I am eyeing this card and I am no pirate.. ;)

I am considering this card for my Axim. I have already an 4GB SD..but is getting a little crowded. The only thing to consider is that the Axim will not take advantage of the ultraspeed.. thus is possible to be getting an 8GB (non-ultra) for much less in the near future.


C.
Well more so then the 8gb card, the 4gb has a lot of potential if you can price match and get them $80+ tax a pop.

goofball
Mar 6th, 2007, 06:04 AM
The Transcend equivalent 120x 8GB are 120 + tax at CTY.

JaGWiRE
Mar 6th, 2007, 08:13 AM
The Transcend equivalent 120x 8GB are 120 + tax at CTY.

Okay, if you want to put junk slow CF cards into your camera, be my guest. Sandisk has a very good reputation, and are robust cards, I don't care what you say, there is a significant difference in speed and quality between Transcend and Sandisk. I personally know no photographers who use transcend.

goofball
Mar 6th, 2007, 08:21 AM
Okay, if you want to put junk slow CF cards into your camera, be my guest. Sandisk has a very good reputation, and are robust cards, I don't care what you say, there is a significant difference in speed and quality between Transcend and Sandisk. I personally know no photographers who use transcend.

Relax.

I know plenty of photographers that do. And they are plenty happy with it.

Do you own stock in Sandisk or something? It wasn't a personal attack.

JaGWiRE
Mar 6th, 2007, 01:30 PM
Relax.

I know plenty of photographers that do. And they are plenty happy with it.

Do you own stock in Sandisk or something? It wasn't a personal attack.

Sorry, was a little pissy this morning, didn't get much sleep / on some muscle relxant pills that piss me off.

Anyway, it doesn't make sense. Maybe if you own a 3 fps camera like the Rebel Xt that doesn't write quick, but if you own a 30D or something like me, the extra write speed that the Sandisk is capable of, will be useful, not to forget about quicker offloading onto your computer, and probably better reliability / good warranty.
The ultra II are so cheap now, it seems stupid to save a few bucks and lose the Sandisk warranty, speed, and reliability.

goofball
Mar 6th, 2007, 02:29 PM
Sorry, was a little pissy this morning, didn't get much sleep / on some muscle relxant pills that piss me off.

Anyway, it doesn't make sense. Maybe if you own a 3 fps camera like the Rebel Xt that doesn't write quick, but if you own a 30D or something like me, the extra write speed that the Sandisk is capable of, will be useful, not to forget about quicker offloading onto your computer, and probably better reliability / good warranty.
The ultra II are so cheap now, it seems stupid to save a few bucks and lose the Sandisk warranty, speed, and reliability.

It's an alternative, and it's not a bad one. If you can't PM to bring the price down, $30 might not seem much to you but it could be to other's, and especially if they can't see the difference in cards.

That's the thing, memory cards shouldn't be something that we need to worry about. If it performs as we need it, does it really matter if it's Sandisk or Transcend or some other brand? How do you feel about Ridata? Everyone has to start somewhere. Just because Transcend isn't world renowned or considered in the same league as Sandisk/Lexar, that they should be discounted completely. That's the same thing with Intel/AMD back in the day. Intel = Brand name, AMD = Brand X.

Lest this turn into a war (which is not my intention whatsoever), I do think that if that was an Ultra III for that price, no hesitation, great deal. Ultra II is good but even that has trouble keeping up with my DSLR so YMMV on whether this is fast enough or not for your purposes.

Happy deal shopping. :)

JaGWiRE
Mar 6th, 2007, 07:54 PM
It's an alternative, and it's not a bad one. If you can't PM to bring the price down, $30 might not seem much to you but it could be to other's, and especially if they can't see the difference in cards.

That's the thing, memory cards shouldn't be something that we need to worry about. If it performs as we need it, does it really matter if it's Sandisk or Transcend or some other brand? How do you feel about Ridata? Everyone has to start somewhere. Just because Transcend isn't world renowned or considered in the same league as Sandisk/Lexar, that they should be discounted completely. That's the same thing with Intel/AMD back in the day. Intel = Brand name, AMD = Brand X.

Lest this turn into a war (which is not my intention whatsoever), I do think that if that was an Ultra III for that price, no hesitation, great deal. Ultra II is good but even that has trouble keeping up with my DSLR so YMMV on whether this is fast enough or not for your purposes.

Happy deal shopping. :)

I'm beginning to doubt you. The ultra III doesn't exist, and unless your shooting like a 1D MK II, it doesn't make sense that the Ultra II can't keep up.

Oversized Rooster
Mar 6th, 2007, 08:18 PM
Most professional photographers will only go as high as 1GB or 2GB .. anything bigger would be too much of a risk of data corruption

yes you can probably store all your pics on one 8GB card but what if the card fails .. you lose all your pics.

First of all, the probability of media failure is extremely low. Second, even if do lose your pics, what's the big deal? Supposing these are people who love photography, they should be happy to get back out there and re-shoot.

It's not the end of the world. I don't think just for this tiny possibility of data loss, you'd split up into smaller 1GB and 2GB cards.

JaGWiRE
Mar 6th, 2007, 08:20 PM
First of all, the probability of media failure is extremely low. Second, even if do lose your pics, what's the big deal? Supposing these are people who love photography, they should be happy to get back out there and re-shoot.

It's not the end of the world. I don't think just for this tiny possibility of data loss, you'd split up into smaller 1GB and 2GB cards.

I agree with you there. I think a lot of failure that we hear about from CF cards is a factor of removing them many times (every time you are done shooting, your taking the card out, putting it in your pc, and then removing it from your pc and putting it back in your camera). If you use 16 1gb cards, imagine how much swapping your going to be doing.

zegerman
Mar 6th, 2007, 08:42 PM
First of all, the probability of media failure is extremely low. Second, even if do lose your pics, what's the big deal? Supposing these are people who love photography, they should be happy to get back out there and re-shoot.

It's not the end of the world. I don't think just for this tiny possibility of data loss, you'd split up into smaller 1GB and 2GB cards.

i'm pretty sure i mentioned professional photographers in my first post. they would definitely be worried about loss of data. for everyone else i agree with you .. who cares .. buy that monster sized card

brute33
Mar 6th, 2007, 10:12 PM
[QUOTE=zegerman;4756136]Most professional photographers will only go as high as 1GB or 2GB .. anything bigger would be too much of a risk of data corruption


you are correct. I have a photography company and almost all my cards are 512meg. Putting thousands of images on just 1 disk is too risky. Data corruption aside....just plain old clumsiness (dropping it/losing it) can destroy a days work and your reputation. Thankfully that's never happened to me!

goofball
Mar 6th, 2007, 11:11 PM
I'm beginning to doubt you. The ultra III doesn't exist, and unless your shooting like a 1D MK II, it doesn't make sense that the Ultra II can't keep up.

My mistake, I meant Extreme III.

I know it doesn't make sense but it is what it is for me. And the Lexar 80x that I have is faster than the Ultra II in writing during bursts. I don't shoot JPG, I shoot RAW and the Ultra II is decent but the Lexar is faster.

JaGWiRE
Mar 7th, 2007, 04:26 AM
My mistake, I meant Extreme III.

I know it doesn't make sense but it is what it is for me. And the Lexar 80x that I have is faster than the Ultra II in writing during bursts. I don't shoot JPG, I shoot RAW and the Ultra II is decent but the Lexar is faster.

Maybe your Ultra II is err, a cheap Chinese knockoff aka a fake?

goofball
Mar 7th, 2007, 06:58 AM
Maybe your Ultra II is err, a cheap Chinese knockoff aka a fake?

Nope. Verified by Sandisk. Fact that it was bought locally from a pro photog who went to Extreme III when they came out didn't stop me from asking Sandisk using serial number verification.

goofball
Mar 7th, 2007, 07:17 AM
Rob Galbraith has tested the 2GB equivalents of Ultra II's and Transcend 120x with D200. Note the results. Not saying that the 8GB would be the same but you can see how the Transcend 2GB and 4GB are faster than the Ultra II 2GB. Transcend 2GB in the D200 camera is 1.2MB/sec faster in writing NEF's than the Ultra II and 0.8MB/sec faster in JPG. Almost same results in D2x camera.

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-8197

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-7697

It's a closer battle in the Canon camera, with the Ultra II edging out the Transcend.

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-8200

For those who feel comfortable going for the Ultra II, by all means, go for it. Not a bad card, I hope I didn't imply that, and I do use mine regularly as well. I'm just saying that there are alternatives to look at.

Now just get out there and shoot pictures.

CameraBill
Mar 7th, 2007, 11:51 PM
Second, even if do lose your pics, what's the big deal? Supposing these are people who love photography, they should be happy to get back out there and re-shoot.

???? Hey dad I accidentally crashed your rebuilt 1967 chevy. I'll pay for all the damages but you loved building it so I made you happier.

???

One photographic philosophy is to capture fleeting moments. Many shots are only possible because of the right cosmic alignment of people, light and events.