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lincoln

Apr 1st, 2007, 11:49 AM

Hi guys, I just picked up an Evga 8800 gts 320mb last week to replace my 7900 gtx. It's an awesome card but there's a huge issue, the graphics stutter. I know that sounds weird, but what it'll do is I'll be playing a game it'll be running perfrectly smooth and then all of a sudden when new textures load it'll pause for about half a second and then continue running smooth. This happens in any game from COD all the way to newer games like Vegas.

I've run a search on the net and and it seems like everything with G88 cards are having the problem despite updating the drivers, etc.

Anyways if anyone has any input or solution, I'd appreciate the help.

XP Pro
550w ultra modular powersupply
eVGA 8800 gts 320mb Superclocked
3 raid 0 WD Caviar 250GB
680i Mobo
2GB OCZ XYC Platinum Rev 2 6400

happyplato

Apr 1st, 2007, 12:37 PM

I hadn't heard of this before. Have you optimize settings on your XP? Such as increase the pre-fetch cache?

"I've run a search on the net and and it seems like everything with G88 cards are having the problem despite updating the drivers, etc."

Kakarot

Apr 1st, 2007, 12:54 PM

never heard of it.... and I run the 8800gtx.

I am sure you probally tried stuff.... but I would start basic.

Unistall drivers, using driver cleaner (do nvidia and ati)

reboot and install the latest drivers.....

then I would do basic maintenance.... defrag, virus/spyware scans... and update all your other stuff (bios, drivers, chipset etc)

from that point... I would think its the card.

Spud72

Apr 1st, 2007, 12:56 PM

Whenever I do a gfx card install and there are issues, I'll just reinstall windows. Usually faster than spending hours troubleshooting.

lincoln

Apr 1st, 2007, 01:01 PM

http://forums.eu.atari.com/showthread.php?t=52152

Here's a link.

I always keep my bios and firmware up to date for all my hardware, so that's not the issue. Defragged last week. Uninstalled the vid card drivers, then installed the 100 series beta one's and still stutters.

I've contacted Evga but still haven't heard anything back yet.

I thought it might be a power supply issue so I backed the overclocking on my vid card back to stock and set my processor and ram to stock but still it was there. I know the PS is not the issue, so it has to be the drivers.

Kakarot

Apr 1st, 2007, 01:55 PM

I would say the card....

lincoln

Apr 1st, 2007, 06:42 PM

****** lol.......

Man I don't wanna RMA.....

arggghhhhhh

I'll keep you guys posted when I call Evga tomorrow.

lincoln

Apr 21st, 2007, 01:15 AM

jumperbee

Mar 13th, 2008, 10:36 AM

This issue is bigger than you think and touches anybosy who owns a gf8 video card and plays games that uses the ut1, ut2 and ut3 engine witch is ALOT of games and for now stutters only in xp systems.

There is a thread going on on the nvidia forums itself and has been going for over a year now here is the link......

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=23904

Its worth a look and with your help we might have a chance of waking up nvidia but most users have sold their gf8 for an ATI HD...

WE NEED YOU!!!

jumperbee

Mar 13th, 2008, 10:39 AM

tried the 158.8 drivers and still get stuttering..... only when there's smoke and explosions which leads me to think that the video card and drivers are conflicting with the core2duo processors. I tried limiting the processor in games to 1 core with little improvement in the stuttering issue.

The issue is dynamic lighting witch is handled differently on the gf8 video card and vista, so nvidia ONLY made the fix available for vista and left XP in the dust.

There is nothing wrong with anything else than your video card, nothing else works although playing fps games that are affected with the weapon hidden fixes about 50% of the problem but still stutters.

jumperbee

Mar 29th, 2008, 11:13 AM

randomdef

Mar 29th, 2008, 09:28 PM

Yup the GF9 chip is also affected with the stuttering issues in games, the way i see it is that Nvidia will now have no choice but to fix this or they will be boiling water, not to say they already are but this is actually good news for GF8 users..... just keeping you up to date...

why would they be in hot water? its been 1+ year for the 8 series and the 9 series has the same issue? does it matter, ATI's cards don't come close.

Minimal Effort

Mar 29th, 2008, 10:24 PM

You ressurected a year old thread. Congratulations.

jumperbee

Mar 30th, 2008, 07:04 AM

why would they be in hot water? its been 1+ year for the 8 series and the 9 series has the same issue? does it matter, ATI's cards don't come close.

Ummm, thats because the 3870HD does come VERY close for half the price and also because everybody is changing to ATI just because of this and this problem has been going on for over 2 years and STILL going on for the GF9. If you would like to see how bad the problem is look at this thread http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=23904 and yes they are in hot water because they have ported a 2year old problem onto their brand new chip so,, are you going to buy a gf9?, if you do well good luck selling it.....

randomdef

Mar 30th, 2008, 10:52 AM

Ummm, thats because the 3870HD does come VERY close for half the price and also because everybody is changing to ATI just because of this and this problem has been going on for over 2 years and STILL going on for the GF9. If you would like to see how bad the problem is look at this thread http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=23904 and yes they are in hot water because they have ported a 2year old problem onto their brand new chip so,, are you going to buy a gf9?, if you do well good luck selling it.....

nope, i have an 8 series card. i doubt everyone will sell and go to ATI other than hardcore gamers, which, isnt a large amount of the population.

jumperbee

Mar 30th, 2008, 02:18 PM

nope, i have an 8 series card. i doubt everyone will sell and go to ATI other than hardcore gamers, which, isnt a large amount of the population.

Anyways, think what you want, i was just giving you guys a heads up and if you still want to buy crap then its your business and considering it affects about 40% of the new game titles i just though you outa know before getting screwed.......

im out........

lincoln

Apr 7th, 2008, 05:28 PM

The issue is dynamic lighting witch is handled differently on the gf8 video card and vista, so nvidia ONLY made the fix available for vista and left XP in the dust.

There is nothing wrong with anything else than your video card, nothing else works although playing fps games that are affected with the weapon hidden fixes about 50% of the problem but still stutters.

Yeah, even the newer G92's have the same problem. That's disapointing because every once and I while I like to go back and play an older game like COD. With this issue it makes it really difficult to play online because it pauses so much.

MattWeiler

Apr 7th, 2008, 05:33 PM

Ummm, thats because the 3870HD does come VERY close for half the price and also because everybody is changing to ATI just because of this and this problem has been going on for over 2 years and STILL going on for the GF9. If you would like to see how bad the problem is look at this thread http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=23904 and yes they are in hot water because they have ported a 2year old problem onto their brand new chip so,, are you going to buy a gf9?, if you do well good luck selling it.....

Are you kidding?
Barely anyone is going to ATI (AMD/ATI), NVidia is clearly leading ATI by a great deal.

Some of the new ATI cards can come close to NVidia cards, but none of them can match NVidia.

jumperbee

Apr 14th, 2008, 05:42 PM

Are you kidding?
Barely anyone is going to ATI (AMD/ATI), NVidia is clearly leading ATI by a great deal.

Some of the new ATI cards can come close to NVidia cards, but none of them can match NVidia.

Its your business, if 5FPS can pursuade you to buy a videocard wich you can do half at twice the price from its nearest competitor makes you happy then, please be my guess and waste your money, no one is stoping you from doing it :)

Larsin

Apr 14th, 2008, 09:24 PM

I have a post on here with those problems trying to find help

kud0s69

Apr 15th, 2008, 01:19 PM

Ummm, thats because the 3870HD does come VERY close for half the price and also because everybody is changing to ATI just because of this and this problem has been going on for over 2 years and STILL going on for the GF9. If you would like to see how bad the problem is look at this thread http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=23904 and yes they are in hot water because they have ported a 2year old problem onto their brand new chip so,, are you going to buy a gf9?, if you do well good luck selling it.....

So whats next?

Throw on a pair of Nike's
Drink some "Special Kool-Aid"
Hitch a ride on a spaceship hiding behind the "Hale-Bopp" comet to a better planet?

Tell me what to do next Marshall Applewhite.

PS - no issues what so every with my 8800. No plans on jumping onto the ATI bandwagon like (As you put it) EVERYONE else is.

Larsin

Apr 16th, 2008, 01:39 PM

was there any fix for this problem ????

jumperbee

Apr 17th, 2008, 08:47 AM

no there isint a fix and wont have any for a while...

jumperbee

Apr 17th, 2008, 08:52 AM

So whats next?

Throw on a pair of Nike's
Drink some "Special Kool-Aid"
Hitch a ride on a spaceship hiding behind the "Hale-Bopp" comet to a better planet?

Tell me what to do next Marshall Applewhite.

PS - no issues what so every with my 8800. No plans on jumping onto the ATI bandwagon like (As you put it) EVERYONE else is.

If your champions are tearing apart after two weeks yea go ahead buy some nike's....

If your kool aid is giving you heart burn then id say to drink some milk..

And if you watch too much star trek to not being able to come up with anything else then your third analogy, then id say to get a life.....

Get my point stupid?, if you have a 8800 that magicaly works fine with THE ENGINES SPECIFIED then whats your fix?, my point isint to bash Nvidia, it is to warn users who wish to upgrade their video cards to not got for this generation of Gforce chips because of a 2 year issue that is still unresolved. Yes i switched to ATI but only to be able to play my games properly while nvidia comes out with a chip without the issue, AND LET ME TELL YOU THAT ALMOST EVERYONE ON THE NVIDIA BOARD HAS DONE SO, so if you are to stubborn to understand this then my warning isint addressed to you, so **** off moron.

kud0s69

Apr 17th, 2008, 02:30 PM

If your champions are tearing apart after two weeks yea go ahead buy some nike's....

If your kool aid is giving you heart burn then id say to drink some milk..

And if you watch too much star trek to not being able to come up with anything else then your third analogy, then id say to get a life.....

Get my point stupid?, if you have a 8800 that magicaly works fine with THE ENGINES SPECIFIED then whats your fix?, my point isint to bash Nvidia, it is to warn users who wish to upgrade their video cards to not got for this generation of Gforce chips because of a 2 year issue that is still unresolved. Yes i switched to ATI but only to be able to play my games properly while nvidia comes out with a chip without the issue, AND LET ME TELL YOU THAT ALMOST EVERYONE ON THE NVIDIA BOARD HAS DONE SO, so if you are to stubborn to understand this then my warning isint addressed to you, so **** off moron.

Take your little e-raging rant somewhere else, tough guy.

Because you needed to switch from NVIDIA to ATI, doesn't mean the whole world is. Fine that you are trying to warn people, but DO NOT bash those who are posting that are not having your little insecurity issues.

You have 9 posts here. Who are you again?

Minimal Effort

Apr 17th, 2008, 05:22 PM

You have 9 posts here. Who are you again?

QTT

I used to "root" for ATi back in the x1000 days. I simply liked them more for no reason. A bias.

But now I don't see how you can say ATi is almost as good as NVidia. Maybe in Oblivion and Call of Juarez. If ATi & Nvidia were in a scrim in CS, Nvidia would type "OMG PWN'D. N00B. GTFO!!!!!11"

3870 is not far behind a 8800GT. If you want an Intel chipset, it would make more sense to buy ATi. However, a 8800GT is far from Nvidia's top. So if you want to evaulate ATi vs Nvidia it would have to be 3870X2 vs 9800GX2. Where GX2 is a clear winner.

matkun

Apr 17th, 2008, 10:18 PM

jumperbee

Apr 18th, 2008, 08:58 AM

QTT

I used to "root" for ATi back in the x1000 days. I simply liked them more for no reason. A bias.

Makes me think of kudos69 lol

Second i never said that everybody is switching to ATI because it is faster or is a better product. It was merely a temporary fix solution since nvidia will not come out with one anytime soon and to wait for the next line of chip to buy your next Gforce if you had in mind to upgrade your current one because the GF9 (g92/94) chip has the same problem and wont be fixed either since it is developed for vista.

So here it is for everyone before doing like kudos and throwing assumptions before reading earlyer posts.....

Wait for the GF10 line before buying your next GForce,

The only solution right now is to stay with your GF7xxx series card if you dont want any stutters, or you can always get an ATI 3570 for half the price of a GF9 series card AND YOU WONT SEE A DIFFERENCE IN FPS THERMS until the GF10 chip is out.

The stuttering only affects Windows XP but used to affect Win Vista but was fixed,

The problem isint software related, it is a problem in wich the GF8xxx (all models, even the 8600 series) handles the T&L differently and can only be fixed by removing features in wich you need or your card will not be DX10 compatible and will run like a series 6xxxx GF card.

The problem is even persistent in OGL platforms, so DXx and OGLx both stutters.

Hope this was clear enough not to be called a nvidia nazi.

And kudos, i couldnt give more **** about the numbers of posts you have, big boy, sheesh if i new you were a big kahuna because of the number of posts you have i surely would still not give 2 shits.....

Anyways for those who understand the magnitude of the problem we need you to post on the nvidia forum, we need all of the support we can get, thanks guys and go 2 hell kudos...

Nvidia forums.....
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=23904

jumperbee

Apr 18th, 2008, 09:00 AM

It is worth noting that there IS a stuttering issue with the 8800 GT, though I am not sure if it is related to the one posted here.

Seems to be a bug when loading textures into memory, several games freeze up for half a second to a second when that is done. Happens to me in EQ2 and Pirates of the Burning Sea. Lots of other people are also having this issue.

The 8800 GT is a great product, but I have to say, I found the drivers for my previous 2900 Pro behaved a lot better with EQ2 and other games.

These are games we didnt know that was stuttering, please post them on the nvidia forums because we are making a list of the affected games and engine and yes it is related to this issue,, thanks man very much appreciated....

slomo

Apr 18th, 2008, 09:11 AM

It is worth noting that there IS a stuttering issue with the 8800 GT, though I am not sure if it is related to the one posted here.

Seems to be a bug when loading textures into memory, several games freeze up for half a second to a second when that is done. Happens to me in EQ2 and Pirates of the Burning Sea. Lots of other people are also having this issue.

The 8800 GT is a great product, but I have to say, I found the drivers for my previous 2900 Pro behaved a lot better with EQ2 and other games.

What's EQ2?

I used 8800GT with Vista 64-bit for about 3 weeks now. So far I have only managed to play MOH Airborne and Gothic 2 in Vista windowed mode on it (I do not have a lot of time for gaming) but I have no problem with them.

matkun

Apr 18th, 2008, 10:28 AM

What's EQ2?

Everquest 2

jumperbee

Apr 19th, 2008, 07:46 AM

What's EQ2?

I used 8800GT with Vista 64-bit for about 3 weeks now. So far I have only managed to play MOH Airborne and Gothic 2 in Vista windowed mode on it (I do not have a lot of time for gaming) but I have no problem with them.

ViSTA does not stutter, it was fixed about 2 month ago....

kud0s69

Apr 19th, 2008, 12:42 PM

Makes me think of kudos69 lol

And kudos, i couldnt give more **** about the numbers of posts you have, big boy, sheesh if i new you were a big kahuna because of the number of posts you have i surely would still not give 2 shits.....

Anyways for those who understand the magnitude of the problem we need you to post on the nvidia forum, we need all of the support we can get, thanks guys and go 2 hell kudos...

Nvidia forums.....
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=23904

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