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Ojam

Jul 2nd, 2007, 10:02 PM

To everybody that has seen transformers, and the teaser that led before it, with no title, the "Code" title is "Cloverfield" I have to say, this thing has me buzzed, even while watching Transformers (which was super-bad (that means good) BTW) all I was thinking about was this. Once there is something online about this, it will be posted here. Lets see some theories though about what you think it could be. One thing is for sure, it doesn't look like Star Trek, which was rumored to be running a teaser before Transformers.

http://trekmovie.com/2007/06/29/cloverfield-teaser-update/

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/11808/large.html

Hanniganite

Jul 3rd, 2007, 12:42 AM

Godzilla!

Paranoidandroid

Jul 3rd, 2007, 04:08 AM

This is the best trailer made. Ever.

I saw it today right before Transformers and I must say, the mystery is killing me! The camera POV-style is intense and unique (you could say it's like Blair Witch, but with some sweet CGI effects). It was so intense I was horrified! The Statue of Liberty's severed head is still haunting me. I must see this trailer again as soon as possible! The lack of a title makes me even more curious! GG, they just won my ticket purchase! :)

Haz

Jul 3rd, 2007, 04:17 AM

Looks like information is very sparse. (http://imdb.com/title/tt1060277/)

DJSINR

Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:24 AM

Anyone notice that the explosions etc had the same sounds as the monster cloud thing on LOST?

Coincidence? hmmmmmm

Lost the movie? nooo

HALO??

it was weird.

Izzoshady

Jul 3rd, 2007, 11:48 AM

Typical J.J. Abrams move

Build a ton of hype and intrigue into the product and then ultimately disappoint.

1. Alias
2. Lost
3. MI3
4. Felicity

All started out great and got substantially weaker as they progressed

Paranoidandroid

Jul 3rd, 2007, 01:02 PM

Well I don't know anything about J.J. Abrams, but the trailer was just genius. It was all I was thinking about during Transformers! The monster really sounded like Godzilla, I was hoping it would be a teaser for a darker version of Godzilla.

The_Professor

Jul 3rd, 2007, 01:22 PM

In fairness, LOST may have dropped off in the second season but this third season ended great. Can't wait for season four!

MasterXan

Jul 3rd, 2007, 04:38 PM

when i saw this, I thought it was Godzilla too. I hope it is going to be a restart of the remake. :lol:

HaZaRd

Jul 3rd, 2007, 07:15 PM

I actually thought the explosions sounded a bit like the aliens from War of the Worlds with the whole electronic/heavy bass thing. The start of the trailer was VERY deceptive, though. I was thinking it was a commercial for some product until the lights switched off. Very intriguing though. Looking forward to it.

TechRock

Jul 3rd, 2007, 07:46 PM

nah it cant be godzilla...it is probably that turtle looking monster aka Gamera the Brave
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamera_the_Brave

Paranoidandroid

Jul 4th, 2007, 12:58 AM

The trailer is here (warning this is very bad quality and could ruin your experience)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NNxPcgn_Dk

shaolinmonk

Jul 4th, 2007, 09:16 AM

i thought it reminded of war of the worlds near the end...and i thought... not again that movie sucked lol but the trailer was cool...

the trailer mentions a giant lion

originalnutta

Jul 4th, 2007, 11:02 AM

Everyone is so excited about this trailer. Lol.

Its so bloody simple and everyone is going nuts.

Helloooo!! Blair Witch anyone?

Paranoidandroid

Jul 4th, 2007, 12:58 PM

the trailer mentions a giant lion

That's what I thought at first, but after seeing it again I'm pretty sure he says "I SAW IT! IT'S ALIVE! IT'S HUGE!" But I wouldn't mind a giant lion :lol:

Here are the current ideas people are speculating so far:
Gojira
Gamera
Chthulu
Lost the movie

http://www.1-18-08.com/
It has begun!

Ojam

Jul 4th, 2007, 09:34 PM

is it just me, or is there something between their heads?

http://www.1-18-08.com/1-18-08.jpg

Izzoshady

Jul 4th, 2007, 11:32 PM

That's what I thought at first, but after seeing it again I'm pretty sure he says "I SAW IT! IT'S ALIVE! IT'S HUGE!" But I wouldn't mind a giant lion :lol:

Here are the current ideas people are speculating so far:
Gojira
Gamera
Chthulu
Lost the movie

http://www.1-18-08.com/
It has begun!

Is this the official site?

Paranoidandroid

Jul 5th, 2007, 12:26 AM

is it just me, or is there something between their heads?
Doesn't look like it:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/whatsphotobucket/011808.png

Is this the official site?
No one is sure; someone just randomly typed the date into the URL and found that. People are speculating whether '1-18-08' is actually the official title for this movie.

Talamasca

Jul 5th, 2007, 12:34 AM

If 01-18-07 is its release date (and it is a Friday), that's a very weird release date for a potential blockbuster. January is the dumping ground for lesser movies. This looks like a summer popcorn film.

Ojam

Jul 5th, 2007, 07:23 PM

Some more stuff.

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=718

http://www.ethanhaaswasright.com/

http://ethanhaaswaswrong.blogspot.com/

I decided to look up "Ethan Haas" on wiki, and all that came up was a show called "The Class" and a paragraph on a character named "Ethan Haas"

"Ethan Haas was head-over-heels in love with his fianc�e, Joanne Richman (Kasey Wilson), and planned the ultimate surprise party: a reunion with their third grade classmates to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the day they met. However, Joanne felt he was smothering her and left. He is a pediatrician with a golden retriever, like his ex-fianc�e. He met a woman named Sue who mistook Ethan for a guy named Dan (Sue and Dan were going on a blind date). When Ethan decided to tell Sue the truth about him lying about his false identity at Oprah's birthday party (after many people called him by his real name), she dumped him. He has developed a strong friendship with Kat ever since Ethan was dumped by Joanne, and the two spend a lot of time with each other. He was the one who found out about Kat's boyfriend, Ben Chow, cheating on her with a girl named Susan, from Ben's son, one of Ethan's patients. As of the end of the first season, Ethan has discovered he has romantic feelings for Kat and will try to pursue a relationship with her."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Haas#Characters

Paranoidandroid

Jul 5th, 2007, 07:38 PM

Some more stuff.

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=718

http://www.ethanhaaswasright.com/

http://ethanhaaswaswrong.blogspot.com/

After solving the puzzle and watching the film, I believe this is based off of John Titor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor). I think the monster is actually God, and what happened in the trailer was the beginning of Judgment Day.

Ojam

Jul 5th, 2007, 08:23 PM

After solving the puzzle and watching the film, I believe this is based off of John Titor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor). I think the monster is actually God, and what happened in the trailer was the beginning of Judgment Day.

There are symbols on the right hand side of the video.

Ojam

Jul 5th, 2007, 09:37 PM

Doesn't look like it:
.

right up at the very top there is a shape, it could just be a shadow, but it looks like a face.

xjohnx

Jul 6th, 2007, 02:32 PM

Looking forward to this one.

...war came, no longer from the elemental nor from the star's rain of fire. The world was again remade, and the glow was as the coming of the sun upon the Earth. The children of the gods were again too few, scattered and divided and among them walked the ancients and those whose thoughts were not as to the towers and the marvels, but to the End and the destruction of the Earth and to the fires from which nothing could escape.

Ben31

Jul 6th, 2007, 05:18 PM

For those who haven't seen it and wondering....check it out (http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/06/29/jj-abrams-top-secret-trailer-for-cloverfield-in-front-of-transformers/)..poor quality...but worth a look.

Izzoshady

Jul 6th, 2007, 06:13 PM

There is so much hype surrounding this film. I hope J.J. Abrams finally delivers the goods this time around.

Ojam

Jul 8th, 2007, 11:21 PM

http://www.1-18-08.com/

has been updated with new picture.

Ojam

Jul 8th, 2007, 11:37 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=im7wWMVzIyg

Ojam

Jul 9th, 2007, 12:02 AM

also at ethanhaaswasright.com there are now two letters under the first and last symbol in the second puzzle when you move your mouse over the right hand star.

Ojam

Jul 9th, 2007, 01:50 AM

There is some casting info up for this on imdb and one of the people in it, is also in the TV show "The Class", which has a character named "Ethan Haas" in it.

Paranoidandroid

Jul 9th, 2007, 02:12 AM

There is some casting info up for this on imdb and one of the people in it, is also in the TV show "The Class", which has a character named "Ethan Haas" in it.
Most likely fake info submitted, since IMDb lets anything through. I doubt JJ Abrams' mysterious movie is a film adaptation of a canceled TV series. :rolleyes:

konfusion666

Jul 9th, 2007, 10:54 AM

interesting stuff

keep up the updates

mself084

Jul 9th, 2007, 11:46 AM

the trailer is awesome - i hope the movie delivers!!!

Talamasca

Jul 9th, 2007, 11:56 AM

I think there's a bit too much over-analysis going on over this movie on the net. J.J. Abrams has a mixed track record and he's just the producer of this movie. Lost has derailed over the years, as did Alias, M:I:III was just okay, and Star Trek XI is a big question mark. Great viral marketing by Paramount though. The bad release date still bugs me though, unless 01-18-08 is symbolic of something.

theurbancanadian

Jul 9th, 2007, 01:43 PM

http://www.deepsky.com/~merovech/2038.html

Something that may explain the January 18th date

theurbancanadian

Jul 9th, 2007, 01:47 PM

After solving the puzzle and watching the film, I believe this is based off of John Titor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor). I think the monster is actually God, and what happened in the trailer was the beginning of Judgment Day.

I think you're right. Very interesting idea IMO from what I've looked at on the net. Fake but interesting, great premise for a movie.

Ziggy007

Jul 9th, 2007, 03:06 PM

It is all viral and I bet if you are smart enough you could piece together the whole movie and what is about if you follow it closely.

Abrams definitely learned the values of viral advertising and the use of subtle but mysterious and puzzle based hints through Lost.

Here is what you should know when it comes to him:

- Everything is shown to you for a reason. The dates are important, the names are important, each line is carefully written and chosen before you ever see it.

- Anagrams are very important, I wouldn't be suprised if "Ethan Haas Was Right" could reform into at least a partial form of the movie title.

- Abrams often uses obscure references to other pop culture items to mask where he is really going. Lizzy Caplan one of the credited actors of the Cloverfield movie was a main character on the show The Class. And what was the screen name for the main character of The Class? Ethan Haas. Also, whether intentionally done by Abrams and co. The wikipedia page for The Class had seen some minor editing performed in between sentences over the past couple hours. Namely the line "Cthulu will rise again" was stuck in the middle of the synopsis paragraph. I am also guessing it is no small coincidence that the premise of The Class revolved around a big reunion party.

To add a little depth to the mystery:

Do a domain lookup on who owns 1-08-08.com and it is run by Henry Kelvin(being a reference to a Lost character) and Albert Pike who according to Wikipedia is quite a character. A freemason and author to name a few things. The main conspiracy behind his writings, that he was a devil worshiper.

buffylover

Jul 9th, 2007, 03:17 PM

konfusion666

Jul 9th, 2007, 04:24 PM

i wonder if all this "intrigue" stuff ends up being more entertaining than the final movie :confused:

Ziggy007

Jul 9th, 2007, 04:29 PM

on the wikipedia page for the class, it looks like its been cleaned up, it has nothing about Cthulu on it.

Yeah it went up and down randomly, no word on who actually did it. Though I find it interesting that Wikipedia didn't put a lock on the article like they usually do when it gets a lot of spammed changes. Perhaps they were in on it, because I wouldn't put it past Abrams to go viral to that small of a level

Ojam

Jul 9th, 2007, 05:40 PM

Teaser is up on apple.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/11808/large.html

Izzoshady

Jul 9th, 2007, 07:16 PM

Teaser is up on apple.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/11808/large.html

It looks cool but I wasn't overly impressed with it. Probably because I saw the grainy ones on Youtube and the shock factor was gone.

Thanks for posting the link

EGee6

Jul 10th, 2007, 03:41 AM

Matthew 12:36 "But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. - NIV" 1-18-08........

EGee6

Jul 10th, 2007, 03:41 AM

Number 1: Ethan Haas has nothing to do with this movie.

Number 2: Godzilla 2 can not be made because American studios have basically lost the rights, and after the 98 diaster, Toho would not let us make another. Besides Devlin and his crew are in that whole scenario.

Number 3: It is called the Parasite for now.

Number 4: Voltron movie is being made other filmmakers

Number 5: it is not "Its a lion its huge!" it is "Its Alive! Its Huge" for the 1000000 time!

Number 6: Some of the people in the party say it might be some animal.

Number 7: Rob is mentioned so many times in the trailer, his name is. SOmeone said on IMDB Rob backwards is BOR- Beast of Revelation which is an animal leopard with seven heads and comes out of the sea and does exactly what he does- overthrows Freedom- throws Statue of Liberty. Or it could be the Second BEast in Revelation which comes out of the ground and does the same thing. He looks like a goat, horns, dragon mouth, kinda looks like the thing thats in the picture with the two girls crying in the middle of their hair.

Number 8: Cthulu sounds like a main contender for the fact that this HP Lovecraft stuff is floating around.

Number 9: It is not Aliens like War of the Worlds for the fact that too many versions were made, and it is confirmed as "monster attacking city" not Aliens. Alien attacks are becoming redundant.

Ch28

Jul 10th, 2007, 02:34 PM

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/9300/untitled1dc3.jpg

konfusion666

Jul 10th, 2007, 03:17 PM

i don't get it.

Izzoshady

Jul 10th, 2007, 03:34 PM

I don't get it either

Can someone elaborate?

shaolinmonk

Jul 10th, 2007, 03:34 PM

i don't get it.

it's the same person... is what he's trying to say... or they're twins... or it really is godzilla

konfusion666

Jul 10th, 2007, 03:37 PM

buffylover

Jul 10th, 2007, 06:17 PM

ok has anyone else noticed the same freaky looking girl in the corner of the second pic????? take a look!!! also there seems to be a number or something that is in front of her, it looks like a 9 or 8

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2347/screenhunter001lb5.jpg

mself084

Jul 10th, 2007, 06:33 PM

no, i don't think so...

btw i think the picture between the 2 faces is a beast with a horn. perhaps with hooves. the fact the 2 photos are "draggable" can't be a coincidence ;) try dragging them around see what they look like.

I was thinking the same thing - try flipping them around, looking at different angles.

and hell yes that chick in the corner is creepy... i think the number may be a letter S... it looks the same as the "we'll miss". If you look at it that way, its kind of like "666"... >:(

Paranoidandroid

Jul 10th, 2007, 06:38 PM

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/9300/untitled1dc3.jpg

ok has anyone else noticed the same freaky looking girl in the corner of the second pic????? take a look!!! also there seems to be a number or something that is in front of her, it looks like a 9 or 8

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2347/screenhunter001lb5.jpg
Yeah this is getting ridiculous...

Ojam

Jul 10th, 2007, 06:53 PM

I'm pretty sure the girls are different people.

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9730/image2no7.jpg

If you flip the party picture, it could be a phone number.

mself084

Jul 10th, 2007, 07:04 PM

Can you imagine being ass drunk like the people at the party...then going outside and seeing a huge monster-esque figure down the street? That's nuts... even worse if you were stoned.

I really hope it's a religious movie... something about the apocalypse. but then everyone would have to die, and there could be no hero to save mankind. hmmm....

Ojam

Jul 10th, 2007, 07:05 PM

also there is slusho.jp

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1566/image3tm2.jpg

konfusion666

Jul 10th, 2007, 07:11 PM

and hell yes that chick in the corner is creepy... i think the number may be a letter S... it looks the same as the "we'll miss". If you look at it that way, its kind of like "666"... >:(

when i flipped it around enough times, i thought the "we'll" said HELL

also there is slusho.jp

constant 6 6 6 references?

STILL! the constant Japanese references keep bringing Godzilla/some other japanesey thing to my mind.

was there ever a Japanese thing about sea creatures??? reading the slusho history brings that to mind!

cmge

Jul 10th, 2007, 10:22 PM

I really hope it's a religious movie... something about the apocalypse. but then everyone would have to die, and there could be no hero to save mankind. hmmm....
yea i want to c a movie where there is no hope and its the end of humanity

Buggy166

Jul 11th, 2007, 06:10 PM

its not godzilla..suposedly its Cthulu

basically a monster crash lands on earth and its got to do with the apocalypse ( davy jones and craken octopuss from pirates were based on this so called monster...its suposedly half alien half god..)

i dunno the story behidn it but its supposedly awsome..

godzilla revisited would be okayish...but i think the cthulu theory is a more interesting one.

konfusion666

Jul 11th, 2007, 06:32 PM

i remember an RPG from the 90's called "Call of Cthulu" or something.

Ojam

Jul 12th, 2007, 06:28 PM

New photo up at 1-18-08.com

Izzoshady

Jul 13th, 2007, 12:06 AM

New photo up at 1-18-08.com

I can't seem to find any clues on the new photo.

BlazinTrini

Jul 13th, 2007, 10:27 PM

From what I remember about Cthulu is that Cthulu doesn't go around attacking

cheukiecfu

Jul 16th, 2007, 02:07 PM

i thought this was Godzilla too when I first saw it in the theatre..
The sony Godzilla in 1998 was so bad...

TechRock

Jul 16th, 2007, 02:51 PM

http://movieblog.ugo.com/index.php/m...f_cloverfield/

proj

Jul 19th, 2007, 08:37 PM

http://www.ethanhaas.org/

:cheesygri

Ojam

Jul 20th, 2007, 06:51 PM

New image up at 1-18-08.com

Izzoshady

Jul 22nd, 2007, 01:16 PM

These pictures are not revealing anything new. I think the suspense for this movie is dying a little bit

Paranoidandroid

Jul 22nd, 2007, 01:32 PM

Parody trailer :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSRMJO6yIkc

PSiBeR

Jul 26th, 2007, 03:01 PM

New "Cloverfield" poster:

http://i13.tinypic.com/6gbok81.jpg

Looks like that possible teaser poster for CLOVERFIELD that we threw up here a couple of days ago turned out to be legit, as EW.com has our first look at the piece of artwork, although the word 'monstrous' that was previously on top is mysteriously absent. They've also revealed a few secrets from the film, like that the monster is not a parasite or a giant robot, like some have suspected. So what do you guys think of the poster? Too blockbuster-looking for a movie that is shot in verit� style?

Haz

Jul 26th, 2007, 04:01 PM

So, the movie officially "Monstrous"...

http://i12.tinypic.com/63avnyu.jpg

Link to a higher res one. (http://i19.tinypic.com/53r7ckx.jpg)

Info regarding the leak. (http://cloverfieldparasite.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-poster-got-out.html)
The Monstrous Forum. (http://www.monstrousforum.com/)
Official press release. (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20048197,00.html)
And some more info. (http://www.cloverfieldnews.com/)

theurbancanadian

Jul 26th, 2007, 05:39 PM

IMO it's an armageddon flick like people have mentioned before.

Ojam

Jul 26th, 2007, 11:38 PM

its name is not officially Monstrous.

2:22 - The original trailer in front of Transformers for Cloverfield / 1-18-08 debuts. JJ Abrams heads to the stage. His very quick statement on the film (as he'll be back for Star Trek XI):

“I want a monster movie, I've wanted one for so long. I was in Japan with my son and all he wanted to do is go to toy stores. And we saw all these Godzilla toys, and I thought, we need our own monster, and not King Kong, King Kong's adorable. I wanted something that was just insane and intense. It's almost done shooting and I watch dailies and I'm more excited for them than the trailer, which has had an overwhelming response. We have 6 months before this comes out. We're going to have a whole bunch of things, a whole bunch more." He said a full trailer, more clips, full posters, and much more will be coming out over the next 6 monts, including the name, which he will NOT reveal today.

“You think we'd call it Monstrous? No…"

So, the film is NOT a Godzilla movie, it is an original monster movie, and it is NOT called Monstrous!

Debut of the first teaser poster for the film:

http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/07/26/comic-con-live-paramount-panel-star-trek-indiana-jones-iv-and-more/

Haz

Jul 26th, 2007, 11:46 PM

its name is not officially Monstrous.

http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/07/26/comic-con-live-paramount-panel-star-trek-indiana-jones-iv-and-more/

Beat me to it! :lol:

I guess it's just a tagline.

Ojam

Jul 27th, 2007, 07:18 PM

There is a new photo on 1-18-08, plus they can now be flipped to see what is on the back, plus there are some character my spaces up too.

Ojam

Jul 27th, 2007, 09:47 PM

slusho.jp has been updated too.

Kerlo

Jul 28th, 2007, 02:59 PM

Well there are two images up that have writing on the back and even though the hand writing is different, I think that they are the same Jamie person.

Neither sentences use apostrphes . . .

Make me wonder if this is more a people become evil kinda flick.

Kerlo

Jul 28th, 2007, 03:23 PM

slusho.jp has been updated too.

What is the link between slusho and cloverfiled??

Ojam

Jul 28th, 2007, 05:03 PM

What is the link between slusho and cloverfiled??

in the teaser there is a guy wearing a slusho t-shirt, it is part of the ARG.

Kerlo

Jul 28th, 2007, 11:25 PM

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4269/slushola0.jpg

Got it!

corrupt123

Jul 28th, 2007, 11:56 PM

Kerlo your pic no worky!

1-18-08.com and Slusho.jp are the only two official sites I know of. There are also a lot of fake ones, which is kind of annoying. (The part of the teaser where they're on the street and the SOL's head comes crashing down, you can see the license plate for the black SUV. Someone made a site with this plate, but I'm pretty sure it's fake)

How do you flip pictures on 1-18-08.com?

Ojam

Jul 29th, 2007, 12:10 AM

How do you flip pictures on 1-18-08.com?

drag them back and forth.

corrupt123

Jul 29th, 2007, 12:56 AM

Got it.

Now, it's purely speculation, but in the trailer about a third of the way through theres a shot of "Rob" walking out of the kitchen, towards the camera. In the background, on the right is a fridge with lots of stuff on it. Anyone have the ability to snap and zoom in on the stuff? The 1080 trailer is pretty high res, but printscreen isn't that great resolution, so zooming isn't very useful.

What interests me is vertical on the freezer door. It says something like "mystery" or "monstrous" I cant quite make it out.

Kerlo

Jul 29th, 2007, 01:41 AM

Kerlo your pic no worky!

Fixed

Kerlo

Jul 29th, 2007, 11:16 AM

These MySpace pages have also been confirmed to be in game:

http://www.myspace.com/jamielascano
http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins
http://www.myspace.com/lily_ford
http://www.myspace.com/beth_mcintyre
http://www.myspace.com/jj_hawkins
http://www.myspace.com/marlenadiamond
http://www.myspace.com/hudsonplatt

Haz

Jul 30th, 2007, 03:59 AM

shaolinmonk

Jul 30th, 2007, 04:55 PM

It's ULTRAMAN vs.... Monster!

corrupt123

Sep 2nd, 2007, 07:16 PM

Any updates?

bokep

Sep 2nd, 2007, 08:44 PM

i also saw this when transformers came out a few weeks back... i didn't know there was a thread for the trailer lol

i bet you this is a new power rangers movie

Ojam

Sep 2nd, 2007, 10:41 PM

Any updates?

if you leave 1-18-08.com open for 6 minutes there is a roar.

CFRTim

Sep 4th, 2007, 09:59 PM

if you leave 1-18-08.com open for 6 minutes there is a roar.

Does it sound like Godzilla or Howard Dean in Iowa ?

MrDisco

Sep 4th, 2007, 10:18 PM

if you leave 1-18-08.com open for 6 minutes there is a roar.

that was creepy.

dekcuftogu

Sep 5th, 2007, 03:55 PM

if you leave 1-18-08.com open for 6 minutes there is a roar.

Does it sound like Godzilla or Howard Dean in Iowa ?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

sam-x

Sep 6th, 2007, 12:13 AM

What is the link between slusho and cloverfield??

Slusho was a fictional drink that appeared a few times on the TV series "ALIAS" whom JJ Abrahams was creator/executive producer. A friend of mine had told me that the slusho drink ties into the movies story, supposedly the monster in the movie is created because the people on earth drink this slusho drink which really is the monster in a dormant state. It's hard to explain but what he told seems a lot closer to the premise of the movie. I'm pretty sure its not a godzilla remake.

gflux

Sep 7th, 2007, 03:22 PM

Not sure why but once I found out that this is going to be a giant monster movie I became disinterested. I guess the mystery is gone. :(

theurbancanadian

Sep 7th, 2007, 05:46 PM

Not sure why but once I found out that this is going to be a giant monster movie I became disinterested. I guess the mystery is gone. :(

+1. Just give me a preview showing the monster already :lol:

corrupt123

Oct 4th, 2007, 01:00 AM

Soooooooooooooooo there is another pic up on 1-18-08.com (www.1-18-08.com) of a chef holding some kind of dish. On the back (click and drag pic from side to side quickly to flip) there is a lot of writing, looks like chinese or japanese. A recipe would be my first guess, but I dont know the first thing about whatever language it is.

Can anyone translate? Any other updates?

Paranoidandroid

Oct 4th, 2007, 08:08 AM

http://www.tagruato.jp/

kidnamedshaun

Oct 5th, 2007, 04:08 PM

i cant wait for this.

billabong

Oct 24th, 2007, 08:07 PM

I want another trailer!!!!

PSiBeR

Nov 14th, 2007, 10:09 AM

Supposedly a 2nd trailer will be shown infront of Beowulf this friday..

"According to comingsoon.net and their sources, we will be getting a new trailer and a real title for �Cloverfield/1-18-08″ on November 16th in front of Beowulf. I know this is what a lot of people have been expecting since Beowulf is a huge movie for Paramount. So keep an eye out and let us know if it pops up online anywhere. If you want to read the full article regarding the rumor (which doesn�t say much more than I stated above) click the link below or head on over to comingsoon.net ."

blainehamilton

Nov 14th, 2007, 03:32 PM

http://www.tagruato.jp/deepsea2.php

Have a look at the interactive map for deep sea drilling locations.

Notice the Chuai station off the eastern seaboard of the US is 'opening Sept 2007' on the mid-atlantic ridge.

Some type of sea monster.

www.slusho.jp

We will send representatives and scientists who will train you on how to operate our machine, and preserve the flavor of our special ingredient, Seabed's Nectar!!

Read the history of the slusho product. Noriko makes drinks from special ingredients, drinks tons of them and is nicknamed 'little whale'. She sets off an a sea adventure to find the 'most tastiest ingredient' in the world and dissapears. Her son continues her work, discovers a 'unique deep sea ingredient' and has a dream where a whale tells him to drink the ingredient and becomes a giant whale. When he awakes, he realizes he must put the ingredient in drinks, and the Slusho is born.

'You can't drink just SIX'...

Kinda a lame understory for the movie. People drink lots of Slusho and become monsters.

As long as they crush and blow lots of **** up, I am in...

Paranoidandroid

Nov 16th, 2007, 07:51 AM

Second Cloverfield trailer that's going to be shown before Beowulf:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=VBb0JHJRK8k

And yes, that's an empty carriage the horses are pulling. Creepy stuff.

xjohnx

Dec 14th, 2007, 11:47 AM

5 minute clip. Looking good, hopefully it lives up to the expectations.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35062

blainehamilton

Dec 14th, 2007, 12:01 PM

Another clip. Still no shot of the monster. My guess is we'll never see it. Narrated from the point of view of someone trying to stay hidden and away from it...

CSAgent

Dec 14th, 2007, 12:33 PM

Another clip. Still no shot of the monster. My guess is we'll never see it. Narrated from the point of view of someone trying to stay hidden and away from it...

Oh that would suck, it would be one of those thrillers where you don't see the actual enemy type of movies..

corrupt123

Dec 14th, 2007, 12:39 PM

http://www.tagruato.jp/deepsea2.php

Have a look at the interactive map for deep sea drilling locations.

Notice the Chuai station off the eastern seaboard of the US is 'opening Sept 2007' on the mid-atlantic ridge.

Some type of sea monster.

www.slusho.jp

Read the history of the slusho product. Noriko makes drinks from special ingredients, drinks tons of them and is nicknamed 'little whale'. She sets off an a sea adventure to find the 'most tastiest ingredient' in the world and dissapears. Her son continues her work, discovers a 'unique deep sea ingredient' and has a dream where a whale tells him to drink the ingredient and becomes a giant whale. When he awakes, he realizes he must put the ingredient in drinks, and the Slusho is born.

'You can't drink just SIX'...

Kinda a lame understory for the movie. People drink lots of Slusho and become monsters.

As long as they crush and blow lots of **** up, I am in...

I don't know about people turning into monsters, originally it was speculated that the mining of deep sea nectar is what awoke the monster. Either way, it's kind of silly in my opinion. Mining ingredients for a soft drink, the monster wakes up because we're taking all it's precious "nectar"

I'll reserve judgement till I see it though, the trailers definitly look interesting.

jayboogie

Dec 20th, 2007, 04:13 AM

I hope they don't hype the movie up anymore by having an extended trailer. They should just leave it the way it is and let everyone's imagination run wild. I just hate when the extended trailer shows too much and ends up ruining the movie.

thelefteyeguy

Dec 20th, 2007, 09:40 AM

*likely* the movie is all about the fear (amongst the small group)...aka Blair Witch Project (until the last 3 mins or so)

I think we'll see only a glimpse of the *monster* at the very end...and that's it.

nfnx

Dec 31st, 2007, 12:26 PM

this movie has me dying... thank god i just saw the trailor again otherwise i wouldnt have known to look up cloverfield. nuts stuff.

Tijuana

Dec 31st, 2007, 02:45 PM

you can see the monster in the clip for just a moment, it does look something like godzilla

theurbancanadian

Dec 31st, 2007, 02:48 PM

I used to be so into this movie but now it's just another movie to check out. Like others have been saying, I hope it's not a fear type movie where we don't actually get to see the monster.

I think they built too much hype too early and now everybody is like, "Oh yeah, that's the movie from transformers."

Ojam

Jan 18th, 2008, 08:47 PM

I just got back, and I have to say I enjoyed the movie. There were some points that I was wishing Hud would just hold the camera still, or point it in a different direction, but other then that I feel I got me moneys worth.

Talamasca

Jan 18th, 2008, 09:50 PM

Yeah, I just came back from seeing it. I thought it was excellent. Very, very intense. The shorter length of the movie was perfect. 15-20 minutes of set up like an episode of Friends and then non-stop carnage and terror.

Basically, the movie is The Blair Witch Project mixed with Godzilla. And for those who get dizzy/queasy easily, the shakey-cam in this movie makes the latter Jason Bourne movies look like a stately costume drama shot in Steadicam.

Digo

Jan 18th, 2008, 09:52 PM

The movie was alright. I wish there was more info on the monster though. The monster was pretty cool. I guess if they had given more info it wouldn't seem as cool.

Beware that this shaky cam effect will make you sick if you can't handle it. I had a friend who didn't want to keep watching after a while.

SLOGAN

Jan 18th, 2008, 10:21 PM

Great film, I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of it.
The ending was expected, as mentioned it had the Blair Witch feel.

WiseOx

Jan 18th, 2008, 10:32 PM

Interesting to read all the positive reviews. I thought Blairzilla was pretty underwelming actually.....as did the sold out theatre I was in...by their reaction at the end of the film. I won't be recommending it to anyone.

SLOGAN

Jan 18th, 2008, 11:27 PM

I thought Blairzilla was pretty underwelming actually.....as did the sold out theatre I was in...by their reaction at the end of the film. I won't be recommending it to anyone.

I heard much of the same in the theatre I was in...considering 90% were tweens who wouldn't be able to appreciate a movie that left the audience hanging. They just want a movie that wraps up in a neat little package for them.

jeffyjaixx

Jan 19th, 2008, 12:48 AM

Yeah, it was pretty good until the end...

[MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS]

After the ending credits have completely run through, garbled radio static can be heard with the phrase "It's still alive" played in reverse.

Anyone else up for a sequel? :D

Psylocke

Jan 19th, 2008, 01:04 AM

Just got back from the screening and I enjoyed it! I thought the set-up was great and led you into the action with anticipation as to what was going to happen next.

The monster was freaky-looking. Really didn't expect the "mini-ones". The actors did a good job as well... were pretty convincing.

Amazingly shot. Makes you wonder just how much post-production work actually went into adding all those special FX into a film that looks like it's shot on a home video camera... very realistic.

BadDrafter

Jan 19th, 2008, 01:07 AM

Paranoidandroid

Jan 19th, 2008, 01:40 AM

Yeah, it was pretty good until the end...

[MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS]

[MORE SPOILERS]

Yeah, if they're making a sequel Rob HAS to be in it. How is the movie going to survive without him? He's like their main dude.

GuiltySpark

Jan 19th, 2008, 02:04 AM

Well....Just got back from this a few hours ago.
**SPoilers** Avoid reading if you haven't seen the filM!!!!!!!!!

Over all I was quite disappointed. The presentation, acting and premise were top notch. There were an hand full of scenes that were pretty damn awesome. But on the whole we got another lame run of the mill monster film shot with a handy cam (not a fan). After about the first 'encounter' I knew the how the film would go (Yes I know it was assumed they all died from the get go), The pointless trek back across Manhattan for the girl was predictable, boring and basically was the entire movie.

* interesting*
Did any sharp eyed viewers catch the "thing" splashing into the ocean at the final scene when they were at Coney island? Possible clue as to the entities origins?
Overall a thumbs down. WAAAYYYY Over hyped.

GuiltySpark

Jan 19th, 2008, 02:06 AM

And the damn monster was Terrible. C/G was bad and it was on par with the Independence Day aliens *Cheesy!*

Firestorm

Jan 19th, 2008, 02:08 AM

Haha, GuiltySpark, my friend saw it. None of us believed him. Told him he was seeing things. I go online and see others saw it too. I'm hoping it surfaces on YouTube or something so I can see it for myself.

GuiltySpark

Jan 19th, 2008, 02:15 AM

Ha! I'm not crazy!! :)

GuiltySpark

Jan 19th, 2008, 02:21 AM

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/01/18/where-do-cloverfield-monsters-come-from/

It's there for sure. Was it the "Easter Egg"?

Paranoidandroid

Jan 19th, 2008, 02:27 AM

And the damn monster was Terrible. C/G was bad and it was on par with the Independence Day aliens *Cheesy!*
Do you realize how difficult it is to do with shaky footage? The CG was pure art if you considered that.

GuiltySpark

Jan 19th, 2008, 02:37 AM

Not buying it. The monster looked like a CGI monster...Ain't the point for it to seamlessly blend in? And the overall Monster design was just dumb..

masterhapposai

Jan 19th, 2008, 03:52 AM

cant stand the ending

*SPOILERS*************

the video should've stopped and after that it should've shown us WHO was watching the video and from where. everyone would be much more happy about that.

It's a damn video tape, you know that someone is watching it and that everyone is definitely dead...

The movie was thoroughly boo'd where I went and parts of the movie were laughed at. I liked the movie, but felt it's missing some time at the end and has too much garbage in the beginning BY FAR.

shawn99

Jan 19th, 2008, 08:46 AM

You can't really judge this movie on any type of cinematography excellence or benchmarking as a excellent movie, because it was just guy holding a camcorder throughout which just gives the appearance of a home-video with grainy video(nothing exciting about that in my opinion) Infact, you miss out on all of what was happening, like what the military was doing with the quarantine. Any type of meaningful dialog etc etc. It's definitely something way out of the ordinary of what a movie is supposed to be, and most people will feel short changed after seeing it.

Insane_Pikachu

Jan 19th, 2008, 09:44 AM

I think this movie is about Gamera...there was this one scene in the trailer that showed a tent and silhouette shadows of two strange form attacking a person (to me looks like turtles)
Also, since there was a big Version of this, I'm guessing these are its babies or w/e

Picture.http://www.fansonerepublic.com/images/gamera.jpg

jeffyjaixx

Jan 19th, 2008, 12:02 PM

^Just to tell you, those are not monsters (the silhouette forms).

jeffyjaixx

Jan 19th, 2008, 12:04 PM

[MORE SPOILERS]

Yeah, if they're making a sequel Rob HAS to be in it. How is the movie going to survive without him? He's like their main dude.

[MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS]

Maybe it would be something like the government talking about the whole incident from their point of view and the director will call it "Cloverfield: Revealed" or something.

corrupt123

Jan 19th, 2008, 12:50 PM

Ziggy007

Jan 19th, 2008, 02:25 PM

Personally I liked the movie because that is how it would actually be if a monster really attacked the city.

The movie didn't try to force some obscure plot line into the movie to give a definitive answer, just a bunch of suggestions through the eyes of the survivors. Even the army said "No idea what it is, but we are losing".

With about 10% less shaky in the movie would have been excellent.

Talamasca

Jan 19th, 2008, 03:04 PM

I saw it and liked it. The movie in itself was good, because I wasn't expecting a big budget hollywood style movie - I was expecting a handycam flick.

I did however hope they'd tell us a little more. (possibly spoiler -->)They literally said NOTHING about the monster, origins, where it went after, etc. Seriously a pain in the ass when they tell you NOTHING. I want to know what happens when you're bit... where it came from, where it went, what the hell those little things were it dropped. And also, I think it dropped two kinds of those things, because the ones in the subway looked a lot different then the ones on the ground.

Also, I missed the part at the end when something splashes in the water on cooney island. Anyone know of a youtube clip or something?[/spoiler]

I think you missed the point. SPOILER: The movie is filmed from a first-hand perspective of an average guy on the street, not from the "God's Eye" perspective of a normal movie of this type. If you were in that situation, you wouldn't know anything about what was attacking you either. A full explanation of the creature's origins would have diluted the mystery and terror. After all, it is the unknown that frightens everyone.

Ojam

Jan 19th, 2008, 03:13 PM

For a sequel I think it would be cool of they did like a History or Discovery Channel documentary. Talking to any survivors and using footage from different sources and talking to scientists for a theory about where it came from and what it was. It would keep with the "reality" feel of this one, and give us some possible information about it's origins.

Ojam

Jan 19th, 2008, 03:31 PM

corrupt123

Jan 19th, 2008, 05:21 PM

I think you missed the point. SPOILER: The movie is filmed from a first-hand perspective of an average guy on the street, not from the "God's Eye" perspective of a normal movie of this type. If you were in that situation, you wouldn't know anything about what was attacking you either. A full explanation of the creature's origins would have diluted the mystery and terror. After all, it is the unknown that frightens everyone.

I agree with you completely, but post credits or something... even online, some answers would be nice. I've looked around online and found nothing, which I think is weird since they led up to the movie with internet hype, so closing it via the internet would have been a viable solution.

I agree that the style of the movie and it's quest or originality give it some leeway. But without some explanation, the real plot of this movie is Man's brother dies, he gets over in in a matter of seconds, then goes to save the girl he's been madly in love with for years. and even that was pretty *#*$ing weak as a storyline. It has nothing to do with the monster. It's like if I wrote a romance, decided to make it take place amidst an alien attack (maybe... I wouldn't tell the audience exactly what is happening) and called it a sci-fi thriller. It isn't.

Forgive me - I'm frustrated. But based on the article I just read about J.J. in the Star, all I can say is that I'm pretty happy I didn't get hooked on the whole Lost campaign...

theurbancanadian

Jan 19th, 2008, 05:24 PM

I think you missed the point. SPOILER: The movie is filmed from a first-hand perspective of an average guy on the street, not from the "God's Eye" perspective of a normal movie of this type. If you were in that situation, you wouldn't know anything about what was attacking you either. A full explanation of the creature's origins would have diluted the mystery and terror. After all, it is the unknown that frightens everyone.

Also, I think that's where the whole viral marketing comes in. Like others have said, this could be a set up for a sequel or some more "newsclips" to explain what happens after.

I just came back from watching the movie and I am amazed. The whole marketing campaign prior to the release really gave more depth to the first hand perspective view of the movie. The main characters acting were okay but how the extras reacted to the situations were real.

My only real peeve was Hud. He would hold the camera when he should be helping out and puts the camera down at parts when I wanted to see what was going on, ie Beth scene.

Overall, the viral marketing behind this movie really made it a much more enjoyable experience for me. It felt real and most of the characters felt human.

Can somebody PM and tell me exactly what happened to Marlena :confused: b/c that was really messed up. Anyways, this movie does live up the its hype IMO and I can't wait to watch it in HD.

boonjaca

Jan 19th, 2008, 10:34 PM

Just saw this morning in the afternoon and thought what a flaming piece of crap. I was so disappointed in it. I understand it was supposed to be a first hand account of someone's experience but the shaky camera-work made me want to throw up. Also, the ending was horrible. Someone told me the reason why they didn't show too much of the movie prior to it's release meant it would suck and boy was he right!!

aplayaz2000

Jan 19th, 2008, 11:50 PM

Saw it today and yes I think the ending was also very disturbing. Even tho I didn't really enjoy the acting or characters I still liked some scenes like...
*Spoilers*
Stealth Bomber dropping **** load of bombs and the US Army giving all the missile power they have. I guess if you dislike Cloverfield its probably because you got bored of the first person shot. Also same with me, sometimes I got annoyed of the newbie filmer.
This has nothing to do between me or the movie but seriously I hate when they always repeat and repeat screaming the ****** name over and over again. TOM TOM TOM OMG TOM .. . STFU *****

GuiltySpark

Jan 20th, 2008, 01:03 AM

I get that the 'point' of the movie was to get the feel of really being there, and no context before or after (as in what was the monster? Origins?) Which is what we the viewers would experience if we were in that situation. But to me thats a pretty weak premise to begin with for a full movie, let alone the execution of said premise just Didn't Work. THAT for me is the reason this movie really derails.
I can imagine the film being just moving if I believed in the acting, the situations and most importantly the monster feeling "real". Then the story line and lack of information would have made a friggen incredible film from the average guys view of a world changing event.
But again that didn't happen.

PSiBeR

Jan 20th, 2008, 01:08 AM

Watched this yesterday on opening day. I've been doing alot of reading on the viral marketing material over the few months, like the infamous Slusho drink which made appearances on 'Heros', the www.jamieandteddy.com site, the Tagruato company, TIDOwave environmentalists, Chuai station hit with different language newscasts, and some of the character's myspace pages. After all this hype with the masterminded viral marketing material I was a little dissapointed that none of this was mentioned in the movie. Besides the Slusho shirt on Jason Hawkins shirt, and the tanker in the beginning which blew up and had the Tagruato logo (atleast I think it was). Also they never mentioned that Rob is actually going to Japan to as a marketing director of Slusho trying to expose the drink to America. But I guess this is like prologue information for real Cloverfield enthusiasts to know before the movie. Also no mention of how the monster is actually made, but I guess if you were a real Cloverfield fan and have been keeping up with the sites you would know how it originated.

Just read there might be a sequel, but this time we will see the the whole destruction of the city from a different persons handicam.

Anyways it really lived up to my expectations beside it being a bit short. The whole movie being viewed from a handicam was real cool I thought. Although there were 2 girls who sat up in the front rows got nauseous I guess and decided to sit on the staircase in the upper rows. Oh yea like everyone else, alot of us stayed until the end of the credits to wait for an image or video to appear. Instead we were presented with a large Paramount logo.

-- SPOILERS --

Ok, just found out that while the end credits were rolling were supposed to hear Rob Hawkins saying in a very distorted tone "Its still alive". Obviously the theatre was too loud and missed that. Also near the ending with old footage of Rob and Beth on the carousel on coney island, if you look closely to the right you see a small thing drop into the water, which is assumed its the monster. Whatever happened to Marlena when she was taken away behind the plastic sheets and the Bioworkers made her explode and blood splattered onto the sheets? in the trailer it made a weird type of squish sound.

masterhapposai

Jan 20th, 2008, 02:07 AM

I think the point was that we were the ones watching it. It's supposed to be a secret government video.

**SPOILERS YET AGAIN**
My issue with that is it doesn't who explain who "we" are. Maybe we're the government watching it in some bunker, hiding from the monster.., or maybe this is J.J's new wannabe-artform.

The "who" has to be explained because I can guarantee you the sequel is going to suffer massively. My theatre wasn't the only one that boo'd it and that's not because the moviegoers weren't intelligent. I've watched and will watch movies that score very high and bore the hell out of others, but this film was a wannabe attempt at art at best.

XxXSnake23XxX

Jan 20th, 2008, 02:10 AM

My theater boo'd the hell out of it and the ending wasn't what i expected at all but it was a good attempt to be somewhat different putting the movie in an FPS view to some point. BUT i really started to get a head ache from the noob camera movements! It would have been nice to atleast put some background info on the monster but i guess they wanted to give the effect that we were living through the events themselves. A sequel would be nice but i doubt that it will happen.

rfdghost

Jan 20th, 2008, 02:29 AM

in the movie, the video was recorded on a SD (SD card) camera as stated by the beginning so why did they keep referring to it as tape.................. and how do you get clips in between when recording on a sd camera...................................

masterhapposai

Jan 20th, 2008, 02:40 AM

See, with all the boo'ing going on, there's a big mistake made with the movie and it won't/shouldn't sell well in the important upcoming followup weeks.

The movie should've been about Leviathan:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan

That would've made more sense. Maybe it is supposed to represent Leviathan, but it lacks the story behind it.

7cal

Jan 20th, 2008, 03:15 AM

My theater had a lot of booing at the end as well. Not a bad flick but overall pretty disappointing. I hate shaky-cam.

appleb

Jan 20th, 2008, 06:59 AM

I didn't like the movie because it didn't really answer any questions that I had going into the movie (other than what the monster looked like). It was unsatisfying.

Also the shaky cam was way too much. I understand it's a camcorder, and when you're running I can understand the camera flailing around, but when you're filming sober inside a house you can't be that bad at camerawork. They took the shaky camera and made it extra shaky for dramatic effect.

At the end of the movie, the guy beside me said 'my opinion of this movie depends on either or not they show something extra after the credits'. It was funny because I was actually feeling the same way.

*SPOILER ALERT*

Apparently at the end of the movie when they show the remaining Coney Island footage, there is a cruise ship in the background and you can see something large falling from the sky and splashing into the sea beside the ship. I completely missed it but others have reported seeing this.

Also at the end of the credits you can hear a voice. When played backwards, it says "It's still alive"

Here it is forward:
http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ield059fu3.flv

Here it is backwards:
http://boomp3.com/m/bd034dfca370

*END SPOILER*

enforcerviper

Jan 20th, 2008, 10:30 AM

Just saw this morning in the afternoon and thought what a flaming piece of crap. I as so disappointed in it. I understand it was supposed to be a first hand account of someone's experience but the shaky camera-work made me want to throw up. Also, the ending was horrible. Someone told me the reason why they didn't show too much of the movie prior to it's release meant it would suck and boy was he right!!

+1

Talamasca

Jan 20th, 2008, 10:44 AM

From Box Office Guru:

Paramount's hit monster movie Cloverfield attacked the North American box office on Friday and scored the best opening day ever in January grossing an estimated $16.9M in its first day of release. The much-anticipated PG-13 thriller's opening day even beat out the entire $15.2M debut weekend gross of 2006's Snakes on a Plane which also was surrounded by an avalanche of online hype. Over the Friday-to-Sunday frame, Cloverfield could open to $40-43M while the four-day holiday gross may swell to $46-50M.

Pretty good as the total budget was only $25-30M. Biggest January opening ever, beating the re-release of Star Wars Ep IV: ANH.

XxXSnake23XxX

Jan 20th, 2008, 11:08 AM

From Box Office Guru:

Pretty good as the total budget was only $25-30M. Biggest January opening ever, beating the re-release of Star Wars Ep IV: ANH.

wow... beet out starwars :-0 :-0

Ojam

Jan 20th, 2008, 11:14 AM

masterhapposai

Jan 20th, 2008, 12:25 PM

Saw it again last night, and was still on the edge of my seat the whole time. Loved it. I don't get the bashing about the ending and not knowing it's origins (in my opinion that is exactly how a "monster" attack would be, nobody would really know anything until a long time after, plus I've been following the ARG since transformers, so I guess I might know a bit more then somebody going in fresh), I can understand the not liking the shaky-cam because of motion sickness, and there were times like I said that I wish Hud would have just turned around, but whatever, not everybody is going to like the same things.

If there's no ending and no one knows anything about the monster then this video should've never been played.

I bet the first few minutes of part2 is going to show the REAL camera pull away and show some army general or tribe of humans post-apocalypse watching the video.

But, that's the lamest cliff hanger and sequel bridge ever, not including that scene in part1 is just plain lame.

And if there's another movie showing more film footage, but no one actually watching it, then this guy is going to run himself out of hollywood. I doubt this film's budget was actually $30mil, regardless of what he says, there have been films with worse actors and less tech costing double and triple that.

I'm sure he's lying to pretend it's a "low budget artistic film", but he's a wannabe clearly, at best. Trying to ride on the success of Blair Witch, and he caught us all off guard, but we won't fall for it with the sequel.

I hope next weekend it drops to $20 mil or less and the guy rides a loss.

sketchED

Jan 20th, 2008, 01:05 PM

This movie is surreal, it brings movie making to a whole new level, the viewer lives vicariously through the characters evoking almost every human emotion possible. i thought the characters were a realistic representation of that age group and lifestyle...those who are looking for carefully scripted dialog and flowery diatribes from the unrealistic fantasy people, this movie wont be for you. The viewer becomes immersed in the storyline undoubtly it brings back emotions from the 9/11 attacks. Everything about this movie seemed authentic, never did the movie ever stray from the original plot, every single second was intense. Most times I can watch movies and separate myself from the plot/characters, however not this time. I could only imagine Toronto being attacked (not necessarily by a monster) but by terror and people would portray the exact human emotions. This movie is a monumental achievement and will be a benchmark for future thriller movies.

What can I say. I thought this movie was great. The movie Jarhead was not about a war or combat, it was about the bond that develops between soldiers. this movie was the same way. It wasn't about the monster and how they fought it. it was about the experience these people went through just trying to survive and the decisions they made along the way. after reading all these negative reviews I'm guessing a lot of people didn't get that. they went into the theater and expected Godzilla or some big movie about how humanity defeated another giant monster. I have to say it was a welcome change from your everyday film. Honestly I don't know how people expected the movie to end. When they said the movie was filmed like a home video, they meant it. I felt like I was right there in the action. This was one of those movies where I focused on nothing but the movie in the theater the entire time. This movie is not for everyone. Don't walk into that theater expecting another Godzilla type movie. U WILL B DISAPPOINTED! U have to appreciate that this movie is about something smaller than that.

corrupt123

Jan 20th, 2008, 01:13 PM

This movie is surreal, it brings movie making to a whole new level, the viewer lives vicariously through the characters evoking almost every human emotion possible. i thought the characters were a realistic representation of that age group and lifestyle...those who are looking for carefully scripted dialog and flowery diatribes from the unrealistic fantasy people, this movie wont be for you. The viewer becomes immersed in the storyline undoubtly it brings back emotions from the 9/11 attacks. Everything about this movie seemed authentic, never did the movie ever stray from the original plot, every single second was intense. Most times I can watch movies and separate myself from the plot/characters, however not this time. I could only imagine Toronto being attacked (not necessarily by a monster) but by terror and people would portray the exact human emotions. This movie is a monumental achievement and will be a benchmark for future thriller movies.

What plot?

-Movie begins
-Monster comes to city
-Movie ends

The movie was great for all the reasons you mentioned, but it was way to open. The only "plot" was the guy going to save the girl he's madly in love with. The movie has nothing to do with the monster, except that it's kind of just "there".

And can you blame everyone for wanting and expecting a monster movie? Pre-release Abrams said "America needs it's own monster movie. King Kong is too cuddly, this will be different then anything that's been done before" and he came through. Only problem is, it's not a monster movie - it's a romance with this big thing messing **** up in the background.

Ojam

Jan 20th, 2008, 01:41 PM

If there's no ending and no one knows anything about the monster then this video should've never been played.

I bet the first few minutes of part2 is going to show the REAL camera pull away and show some army general or tribe of humans post-apocalypse watching the video.

But, that's the lamest cliff hanger and sequel bridge ever, not including that scene in part1 is just plain lame.

And if there's another movie showing more film footage, but no one actually watching it, then this guy is going to run himself out of hollywood. I doubt this film's budget was actually $30mil, regardless of what he says, there have been films with worse actors and less tech costing double and triple that.

I'm sure he's lying to pretend it's a "low budget artistic film", but he's a wannabe clearly, at best. Trying to ride on the success of Blair Witch, and he caught us all off guard, but we won't fall for it with the sequel.

I hope next weekend it drops to $20 mil or less and the guy rides a loss.

Box office mojo says otherwise, Weekend estimate of 41million on a budget of 25million with an average user rating of B. A sequel will be made, and given the positive income and user reviews, people will see it.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=cloverfield.htm

and ride on the success of a movie that came out 8 years ago... I'm pretty sure that wave broke on Oct. 27th 2000, but ok whatever you say.

aw3s0me

Jan 20th, 2008, 01:44 PM

SPOILER ALERT

the thing falling from the sky is not the monster, if you followed the viral campaign you would know it was actually a satellite. the monster came from the ocean.

Oh and I loved the movie, the people who hated it probably got too caught up in the hype.

7cal

Jan 20th, 2008, 02:16 PM

I avodied all the hype, and I am glad I did.

I saw the trailer with Transformers and last year and was instantly sold. "OK, I'm seeing that," I thought, and never watched another trailer, avoided all the web hype, didn't read any articles, nothing.

All that said, I was still disappointed. The shaky cam sucked. So many times I wanted a better view of what was going on, but you never get it. The best shot was deifnitely the stealth bombing near the end. I didn't hate the movie, maybe give it a 6 out of 10, but both myself and my wife will probably never watch it again. If they make a sequel, I hope it's a 'traditional' movie without all the detriments that the style of the original had.

If I had got caught up in the hype and believed half of what I read, I would have really hated this movie. Because I didn't, I was able to come out of it going "meh, ok" rather than "holy crap that sucked".

corrupt123

Jan 20th, 2008, 02:37 PM

As a side note -

Has anyone checked out the websites? http://www.tagruato.jp/ is now down, or at least, "pretend" down, with something written on the screen and a :!: mark. Can anyone translate?

and www.1-18-08.com also now has some new pictures, military shots at sea and some big bloody spills and look like either some whales died, or maybe they did nail the monster? I dont know... Does anyone know if these pics are new, or were they there before the movie release? I hadn't checked the site since Decemeber.

GuiltySpark

Jan 20th, 2008, 02:38 PM

I'm getting sick of everyone defending the movie because, basically those that didn't like it are either too un-intelligent or expected a different film. It was marketed as a Friggen Monster movie by Abrams himself! Not a poorly done romance set around the monster. While many younger viewers can't appreciate the un-hollywood ending, those of us that have seen other stellar examples such as "I am Legend" are completely aware of what was attempted, and why it failed miserably.

While everyone is entitled to their opinion, the ppl taking the high road and stating "You just didn't get it" are sorely mistaken. This movie was within inches or greatness, but those inches count for miles.

7cal

Jan 20th, 2008, 02:40 PM

Ziggy007

Jan 20th, 2008, 02:43 PM

From Box Office Guru:

Pretty good as the total budget was only $25-30M. Biggest January opening ever, beating the re-release of Star Wars Ep IV: ANH.

I am thinking that the early estimates are really low for what will really happen.

On Friday night I went to the late show, and went to line up an hour before at a usually empty theatre only to find I was the absolute last in line. It was about double the line I saw for Spiderman3, so $40mill seems conservative to me...

UrbanPoet

Jan 20th, 2008, 02:46 PM

Phr3sh

Jan 20th, 2008, 02:54 PM

Saw it friday and really enjoyed it. The theatre was packed so I had to sit pretty close to the front which definately wasn't helping the shakiness of the movie. One of the ladies beside me had to get up and yak halfway through, came back in at the end and was furious and demanding her money back. I was absolutely dying laughing.

masterhapposai

Jan 20th, 2008, 05:03 PM

Box office mojo says otherwise, Weekend estimate of 41million on a budget of 25million with an average user rating of B. A sequel will be made, and given the positive income and user reviews, people will see it.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=cloverfield.htm

and ride on the success of a movie that came out 8 years ago... I'm pretty sure that wave broke on Oct. 27th 2000, but ok whatever you say.

Reality check:
-This movie didn't cost 25mil. Common sense shows at least that amount was spent on marketing, and we all know CG is double and triple that.
-This is the first true copy cat of Blair Witch, right down to lying about the cost to bring in movie-watchers for the "real experience". I admit, I fell for it, but won't again.

It's not a success until we get the true cost of the movie, and see next week's results.

PCDawg

Jan 20th, 2008, 05:12 PM

Reality check:
-This movie didn't cost 25mil. Common sense shows at least that amount was spent on marketing, and we all know CG is double and triple that.
-This is the first true copy cat of Blair Witch, right down to lying about the cost to bring in movie-watchers for the "real experience". I admit, I fell for it, but won't again.

It's not a success until we get the true cost of the movie, and see next week's results.

The budget of the movie was indeed $25 million. There wasnt much marketing involved. Just the same trailer shown and the random pics and updates from their website.

Everyone's curiosity of the movie and what type of monster had everyone guessing was the key to keeping the buzz around.

Digo

Jan 20th, 2008, 05:49 PM

They used unknown actors so that would definetly help with the budget. It was better to have unknown actors anyway as it would go hand in hand with the handy-cam effect.

theurbancanadian

Jan 20th, 2008, 06:14 PM

This is taken from a posting on Youtube which could make sense:

The Japanese oil company TAGRUATO drops a satellite (Chimpanz III) into the ocean as part
of viral marketing (shown at the end of the movie when Rob and Beth were on the ferris wheel).
TAGRUATO works with SLUSHO (a slush company), as the main ingredient for SLUSHO is found
at the satellite dropzone (deep ocean). While searching for satellite and ingredients, they
woke Cloverfield (the monster).

Hopefully, we will be able to get some real answers.

Ziggy007

Jan 20th, 2008, 06:52 PM

Reality check:
-This movie didn't cost 25mil. Common sense shows at least that amount was spent on marketing, and we all know CG is double and triple that.
-This is the first true copy cat of Blair Witch, right down to lying about the cost to bring in movie-watchers for the "real experience". I admit, I fell for it, but won't again.

It's not a success until we get the true cost of the movie, and see next week's results.

Reality check for you, the movie didn't cost more than the advertised $25-30 million.

The use of no name actors would be the first way to save a lot of money.

Next if you rewatch the movie you will notice that although entertaining and suspenseful throughout, many of the scenes were probably filmed for dirt cheap budgets (ie. The tunnel scene, all the time at the party, etc etc).

Creative movie making and budget distribution.

frogger

Jan 20th, 2008, 07:40 PM

I thought it was decent. The way the movie started pretty much sealed the fate of the characters. I mean compared to all of the movies that were previewed pre-show, I wouldn't pay money to see any of those.

I have grown cynical of hollywood blockbuster movies. I thought transformers sucked, won't even bother watching pirates or shrek sequels or any movie with mostly teenage characters anymore. Had watched much TV and known this was marketed as a "monster" movie, I probably wouldn't have watched it as crappy as recent examples have been.

The shaky came bothered me at first but I got used to it after the first half hour. I sat well back in the theatre knowing ahead of time that would be an issue.

7cal

Jan 20th, 2008, 09:11 PM

The shaky came bothered me at first but I got used to it after the first half hour. I sat well back in the theatre knowing ahead of time that would be an issue.

I sat back further than I normally would too, knowing the shaky cam would bother me. It still did and really detracted from the movie for me, but I would have found it completely unbearable if I had been sitting much closer.

Badman

Jan 20th, 2008, 10:17 PM

Just came back from watching the movie and I am disappointed. I don't really care for the hype but this had no story. the most shocking part was when you saw the credits start playing. I am left clueless about this movie and about this monster.

Also my head was hurting the whole way through with the way they shot it. I'd say its worth a rental but not $10 a person for the theaters and definitely not worth buying in hi-def as you are literally watching a person use a $400 camera.

Plus this movie was way to short. Only 1hr and 15min. They could have at least added another part explaining the monster.

Ow well I guess they purposly did this so a pt.2 could come out, but if they bring out a sequel they better shoot it as a normal movie and include some information of the monster in the story line.

JetSter735180

Jan 20th, 2008, 11:27 PM

For people wondering where the monster came from.......watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KarNwKx5mGY

more about it here:

http://cloverfieldclues.blogspot.com/2008/01/chuai-station-news-videos.html

N1QUE24

Jan 20th, 2008, 11:31 PM

Scribblez

Jan 21st, 2008, 01:12 AM

I just went to see this movie earlier today with some friends. I had been really eager because of all the hype leading up to it. Now that I've come out of the movie, I truly don't know what to think about it. I don't really hate it, but It's not great for me either. It's like I'm confused about whether I like it or not. The ending just left me wanting more out of it.

xpoint9

Jan 21st, 2008, 01:16 AM

I can't wait for the sequel. Don't care much for this one though.

coreanbbq

Jan 21st, 2008, 01:20 AM

SOOOOO apparently, Rob (main character) is going to Japan to be Vice President of Marketing/Advertising for this popular drink called 'Slusho'. It's secret ingredient is found in the very bottom of the ocean.. Hence why they had a going away party for him in the beginning of the movie.

And apparently, while they were extracting some of the ingredients for the drink .. they woke the monster up. I'm not too sure about this but I heard that the monster requires the very same ingredients to live.. and SO it goes ape shizz in New York as seen in the movie when it couldn't find this secret ingredient.

So why was it in New York? It was because Rob and his friends were serving Slusho in the party before the attacks happened.. and they had it in their system, hence the reason why the monster was stalking them throughout the whole movie..

AND APPARENTLY, in the last shot of the movie.. when they were in Coney Island riding the ferris wheel, in the background there was a shot of an oil rig being attacked by the monster.. ppl are saying this very oil rig was the one that was extracting the ingredients for Slusho and the very same one that woke the monster up.

I'm officially a nerd, but I need to understand this movie +_+

If I had known this poor excuse for a 'backstory' before I saw the movie, I would not have enjoyed it half as much. I regret reading that information if it is indeed canon/official.

I went in expecting a nonstop thrillride survival/action/monster movie and that's what I got. I liked that they didn't elaborate on the monster, and that all we could access was whatever was on the tape. I don't think all of those details are supposed to matter much. The movie takes you through the terror going on in the heart of the action, as if you're actually there-- not knowing what's going on or where it came from is part of the experience. As for the abrupt ending, I thought it was the only appropriate ending possible and I enjoyed it quite a bit. It would have been strange pacing to shift to different main characters (the military perhaps) to explain the aftermath...

Jeez, I think sometimes people expect to be spoonfed information according to the standards of 'proper' storytelling...demanding all the facts and all the answers. Can't y'all enjoy a movie for what it is? :o

corrupt123

Jan 21st, 2008, 01:23 AM

SOOOOO apparently, Rob (main character) is going to Japan to be Vice President of Marketing/Advertising for this popular drink called 'Slusho'. It's secret ingredient is found in the very bottom of the ocean.. Hence why they had a going away party for him in the beginning of the movie.

And apparently, while they were extracting some of the ingredients for the drink .. they woke the monster up. I'm not too sure about this but I heard that the monster requires the very same ingredients to live.. and SO it goes ape shizz in New York as seen in the movie when it couldn't find this secret ingredient.

So why was it in New York? It was because Rob and his friends were serving Slusho in the party before the attacks happened.. and they had it in their system, hence the reason why the monster was stalking them throughout the whole movie..

AND APPARENTLY, in the last shot of the movie.. when they were in Coney Island riding the ferris wheel, in the background there was a shot of an oil rig being attacked by the monster.. ppl are saying this very oil rig was the one that was extracting the ingredients for Slusho and the very same one that woke the monster up.

I'm officially a nerd, but I need to understand this movie +_+

I've heard that scenerio before and I still think it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm not saying you're wrong, but if thats actually the storyline then it's ********. I can see it now... Paramount says... "Big sea monster wants his soda pop, and then it destroys NYC because some guy's party has a couple dozen bottles! Brilliant! I want it to screen by January '08, heres $30 million!"

Paranoidandroid

Jan 21st, 2008, 07:51 AM

Another video of interest (from JamieandTeddy.com):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QMlGDg9htag

*minor spoiler*

This is the girl who was passed out at the party. I guess a sequel could feature Teddy?

CSAgent

Jan 21st, 2008, 09:57 AM

SOOOOO apparently, Rob (main character) is going to Japan to be Vice President of Marketing/Advertising for this popular drink called 'Slusho'. It's secret ingredient is found in the very bottom of the ocean.. Hence why they had a going away party for him in the beginning of the movie.

And apparently, while they were extracting some of the ingredients for the drink .. they woke the monster up. I'm not too sure about this but I heard that the monster requires the very same ingredients to live.. and SO it goes ape shizz in New York as seen in the movie when it couldn't find this secret ingredient.

So why was it in New York? It was because Rob and his friends were serving Slusho in the party before the attacks happened.. and they had it in their system, hence the reason why the monster was stalking them throughout the whole movie..

AND APPARENTLY, in the last shot of the movie.. when they were in Coney Island riding the ferris wheel, in the background there was a shot of an oil rig being attacked by the monster.. ppl are saying this very oil rig was the one that was extracting the ingredients for Slusho and the very same one that woke the monster up.

I'm officially a nerd, but I need to understand this movie +_+

It did NOT stalk them throughout the movie, where did you get that idea? Stalking implies following around, clearly it did not follow them at all. It randomly ran into Rob, Hud and Lily.

From the viral videos, it appears the monster followed the big tanker to NYC in the first place. Perhaps the tank carried the deep sea ingredients, and it was startled after finding itself in the Hudson river in NYC.

J.J. Abrams while at Comic-Con even said that "the premise for the monster is just one giant baby that is confused, scared and irritable."

So like, it didn't wake up one and decided to go to NYC to smash buildings and play squish the armorved columns attacking it, that's for sure.

Badman

Jan 21st, 2008, 10:19 AM

one thing though is how is this monster so strong. It must be invincible.

Spoiler*
I don't get how the monster hit the helicopter when they were leaving. The monster can't reach so far and they were already up in the sky past buildings.

I think they wanted this movie to have some sort of easter eggs that you need to look out in the movie and also do research on the internet. I got more of a storyline from the internet then from the movie itself. :|

N1QUE24

Jan 21st, 2008, 10:23 AM

Clearly the monster was stalking them.

SPOILER!

When they went to rescue Beth, the monster was near.

When they were at Central Park to board the helicopter, the monster was very near. It even went out of its way to destroy their helicopter.

And I find it very hard to believe that the monster stopped fleeing from the military only to look down and stare at Hud from below before finishing him off. He must've had something that the monster wanted.. which was probably the drink inside his system.

Now tell me this, NYC is huge. If you watched the movie, the monster was always in close vicinity to wherever they went. I can name many instances where they encountered the monster.. so I ask you this, what are the chances of that happening? Given the massive size of space the monster is given to work with?

It could go either way, but this theory is the one I believe the most.. unless someone can provide a better explanation and can put two and two together.. I'll stick with this one.

thelefteyeguy

Jan 21st, 2008, 10:44 AM

nice...$41mil on opening weekend in Jan. Those are some pretty great numbers for a movie that has an estimated cost of $25mil.

Easily will hit $100 mil

I couldnt catch it this weekend...sold out

Ojam

Jan 21st, 2008, 10:50 AM

SOOOOO apparently, Rob (main character) is going to Japan to be Vice President of Marketing/Advertising for this popular drink called 'Slusho'. It's secret ingredient is found in the very bottom of the ocean.. Hence why they had a going away party for him in the beginning of the movie.

And apparently, while they were extracting some of the ingredients for the drink .. they woke the monster up. I'm not too sure about this but I heard that the monster requires the very same ingredients to live.. and SO it goes ape shizz in New York as seen in the movie when it couldn't find this secret ingredient.

Taragato drills for oil, Slusho is a product they developed other then this. They were not drilling for Slusho, it is unknown why the monster woke.

So why was it in New York? It was because Rob and his friends were serving Slusho in the party before the attacks happened.. and they had it in their system, hence the reason why the monster was stalking them throughout the whole movie..

They were not serving Slusho at the party, it is not available in NA, which is why Rob is going to work for them, to help them develop a plan to sell it in NA. The only mention of Slusho in the movie is Jason's shirt. It definitely was not stalking them.

AND APPARENTLY, in the last shot of the movie.. when they were in Coney Island riding the ferris wheel, in the background there was a shot of an oil rig being attacked by the monster.. ppl are saying this very oil rig was the one that was extracting the ingredients for Slusho and the very same one that woke the monster up.

No there is not, there is a small black thing fall into the water in the distance, no oil rig, especially no slusho or monster.

I'm officially a nerd, but I need to understand this movie +_+

Don't feel like a nerd.

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Psylocke

Jan 21st, 2008, 11:47 AM

I went in expecting a nonstop thrillride survival/action/monster movie and that's what I got. I liked that they didn't elaborate on the monster, and that all we could access was whatever was on the tape. I don't think all of those details are supposed to matter much. The movie takes you through the terror going on in the heart of the action, as if you're actually there-- not knowing what's going on or where it came from is part of the experience. As for the abrupt ending, I thought it was the only appropriate ending possible and I enjoyed it quite a bit. It would have been strange pacing to shift to different main characters (the military perhaps) to explain the aftermath...

Jeez, I think sometimes people expect to be spoonfed information according to the standards of 'proper' storytelling...demanding all the facts and all the answers. Can't y'all enjoy a movie for what it is? :o

+1

I'm glad to that they didn't decide have further explanation of the monster during the film. If they did I felt it would've pulled away from the story and the reality of it since it's all based on "home video footage". It's like we were one of the privileged people to watch government-owned footage of an up close encounter with a disaster. The whole "egg falling into the ocean" thing along w/ the audio after the credits is a great tool used in the final scene to leave the film open for a sequel, while sparking some buzz of the monster's origins.

The ending couldn't really happen any other way... unless they wanted Rob and Beth to survive (IMO that would be too cliche), and having a view of government officials or military explaining the tape, thus sparking another arch of the story would ruin the pacing and bring the viewer out of the story.

The film industry needs something different... having all the information given to viewers during the course of the movie isn't what makes a good film. With the amount of buzz Cloverfield is getting post-release (both positive and negative), I think they got what they wanted.

corrupt123

Jan 21st, 2008, 12:24 PM

Another video of interest (from JamieandTeddy.com):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QMlGDg9htag

*minor spoiler*

This is the girl who was passed out at the party. I guess a sequel could feature Teddy?

I think it's fake, and has nothing to do with the movie.

Paranoidandroid

Jan 21st, 2008, 01:13 PM

I think it's fake, and has nothing to do with the movie.
As you might know, Myspace pages were set up for the main characters as part of their viral marketing. One of those pages was Jamie's, and it led to the Jamieandteddy.com site. Whatever relevance the characters have to the movie is unknown for the most part (except that Teddy works at Tagrauto), but the girl in the video IS Jamie on Myspace and in the movie.

shaolinmonk

Jan 21st, 2008, 03:27 PM

since i'm hearing this is kinda blair witch meets godzilla.. is it worth watching in the theatre??

corrupt123

Jan 21st, 2008, 03:53 PM

since i'm hearing this is kinda blair witch meets godzilla.. is it worth watching in the theatre??

Yeah, just sit well back and take it for what it is.

CSAgent

Jan 21st, 2008, 04:05 PM

I can't see YouTube at work, is Jamie the cute blonde girl from the trailers who goes, "Rob's awesome!"

She didn't even do that in the movie! And what happened to the Asian guy who says "He's like my main dude." Did he die? And the black guy, he definitely died right?

N1QUE24

Jan 21st, 2008, 05:52 PM

I think the fact that people expected this movie to have some sort of plot is pretty stupid.. I mean, the movie itself was basically showing a recollection of what happened that night through the eyes of one person.

It's not like HUD himself was trying to tell a story.. he was just randomly taping whatever happened that night in hopes he would get a glimpse of the monster/or whatever was stalking new york city.

There is no plot plain and simple..

masterhapposai

Jan 21st, 2008, 06:41 PM

Reality check for you, the movie didn't cost more than the advertised $25-30 million.

No, Reuters speculated it did.

Wikipedia says:

With production estimated to have a budget of $30 million, filming began in mid-June in New York.[9] One cast member indicated that the film would look like it cost $150 million, despite producers not casting recognizable and expensive actors.

That estimation comes from Reuters.

If you have a better source, please update wikipedia, thanks.

+1

I'm glad to that they didn't decide have further explanation of the monster during the film. If they did I felt it would've pulled away from the story and the reality of it since it's all based on "home video footage". It's like we were one of the privileged people to watch government-owned footage of an up close encounter with a disaster. .

There's a term for being fascinated with that type of false reality. I forget it at the moment.

But, obviously the film caters to you people.

To me, and most other traditional movie-goers or fans of real art, we expect closure or at least a bridge to be able to reach the next platform. Not only that, if "I" am watching the movie, who am "I"? That event obviously didn't happen in this world, so the movie should explain who the watcher is.

Amateur at best.

Paranoidandroid

Jan 21st, 2008, 06:58 PM

But, obviously the film caters to you people.

To me, and most other traditional movie-goers or fans of real art, we expect closure or at least a bridge to be able to reach the next platform. Not only that, if "I" am watching the movie, who am "I"? That event obviously didn't happen in this world, so the movie should explain who the watcher is.

Amateur at best.
Maybe you need to get off your high horse and realize this movie was well-received because it's simply entertaining. Cloverfield doesn't follow the conventional ways of movies, but that's what makes it so fresh. It's something new. This film isn't going to win any awards (or nominated) for best picture or best cinematography, but it succeeded in what it was trying to do: entertain.

You critics can't deny you didn't feel any tension/excitement/awe while watching this. The people who booed after the movie just felt short-changed by the ending. You simply can't judge a whole film based on just the ending.

Ojam

Jan 21st, 2008, 07:16 PM

No, Reuters speculated it did.

Wikipedia says:

That estimation comes from Reuters.

If you have a better source, please update wikipedia, thanks.

How about this, seeing as you are the one who is trying to prove that it cost much more then 30 million, just provide some proof other then a quote from an actor saying it will "look" like it cost 150 million, ok? thanks, looking forward to it.

There's a term for being fascinated with that type of false reality. I forget it at the moment.

But, obviously the film caters to you people.

To me, and most other traditional movie-goers or fans of real art, we expect closure or at least a bridge to be able to reach the next platform. Not only that, if "I" am watching the movie, who am "I"? That event obviously didn't happen in this world, so the movie should explain who the watcher is.

Amateur at best.

So you want to be spoon fed, alright, then it wasn't the movie for you, maybe next time you should catch a movie that caters to people like you, maybe the latest dance movie, I think there were a few advertised before it so you should be able to find one.

Ojam

Jan 21st, 2008, 08:00 PM

Have you seen Jean-Luc Godard's "Breathless"?

Breathless was very enjoyable, would like to get the recently released Criterion disc.

Talamasca

Jan 21st, 2008, 08:09 PM

Cloverfield's Budget:

According to MSNBC, $30M (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22730887/)

The Independent: 15GPB = $30M (http://arts.independent.co.uk/film/news/article3353767.ece)

Yahoo!: $25M (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080119/entertainment/entertainment_boxoffice_col)

The Hollywood Reporter: $30M (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3id4ef5b33280f855a5f2683ffd1b6219d)

The National Post: $30M (http://www.nationalpost.com/arts/story.html?id=242283)

They don't just pull these figures out of thin air, you know. I'll even concede to some creative Hollywood accounting and maybe it cost $40M but there's no way it cost $150M. The remark that "one cast member indicated that the film would look like it cost $150 million, despite producers not casting recognizable and expensive actors" which I believe comes from Entertainment Weekly, only comments that the movie looks expensive, not that it was expensive to make.

MrDisco

Jan 21st, 2008, 09:28 PM

just finished watching Cloverfield. i was not impressed. thought it was mediocre and ultimately completely pointless.

now I wish the line really was "it's a lion" :|

bembol

Jan 21st, 2008, 10:07 PM

Just got back.

I was surprised how much I enjoyed it, better than I expected.

I have to say from the other thread I've been reading, some are way too sensitive about the Shaky Filming. I thought it added realism, it made you part of it all.

I all know is I WANT Dolby TrueHD/dts Master Audio 7.1 when this hits HD DVD (or BD)!

coreanbbq

Jan 22nd, 2008, 12:47 AM

There's a term for being fascinated with that type of false reality. I forget it at the moment.

Hmm.. being fascinated with a false reality? Gee, isn't this the purpose of cinema? To entertain viewers with false realities? :lol:

Ziggy007

Jan 22nd, 2008, 01:05 AM

No, Reuters speculated it did.

Wikipedia says:

That estimation comes from Reuters.

If you have a better source, please update wikipedia, thanks.

There's a term for being fascinated with that type of false reality. I forget it at the moment.

But, obviously the film caters to you people.

To me, and most other traditional movie-goers or fans of real art, we expect closure or at least a bridge to be able to reach the next platform. Not only that, if "I" am watching the movie, who am "I"? That event obviously didn't happen in this world, so the movie should explain who the watcher is.

Amateur at best.

Since the budget thing has already been tackled I will just move on to the next part which was already spoken about but:

Closure in movies is usually given by adding irrelevant and crazy sideplots to satisfy a viewers need for more information in a limited amount of time. In Transformers they had to add in Sector Six (or seven can't remember) to try and tie in the plot of how the Transformers got there, and a lot of people groaned at that part of the story.

It is refreshing for once to have the movie be filmed and be just about the monster and not try to force anything extra onto the viewer. The closure has actually come in the form of viral internet media if you really need it...

Badman

Jan 22nd, 2008, 09:46 AM

lol Deal-lon got it right on the spot. At least try and keep the characters as realistic as possible.

Also the only good thing for buying this on HD is for the sound. The picture at the theater looked like one of those "CAM" movies. Watching on blu-ray/HD-DVD would be terrible picture quality.

thelefteyeguy

Jan 22nd, 2008, 10:04 AM

shaolinmonk

Jan 22nd, 2008, 10:19 AM

ironic...cam recording cam is out :D

but will catch it in the theater

double the shaky poor footage.. must download lol!

i had fun yesterday... some parts are silly and made me laugh but overall enjoyed the movie.. hope they have more "net"stuff

Advantage22

Jan 22nd, 2008, 11:39 AM

The characters were stupid, vapid and vacuous, the writing was terrible, and the situations were completely contrived. Let's also mention that no one would continually be shooting a camera (at head height mind you) in the effort for self-preservation. I couldn't possibly care any less about any of the characters and their GAP/Old Navy/The OC/The Hills problems. I tried to ignore the fact that women were fighting monsters with their high heels still on. You can't tell me anyone would survive a helicopter crash. You can't tell me that after getting impaled on an iron rod, you can run to safety after hours of bleeding. You can't tell me that this movie has any sense of realism.

Yes, there was a MONSTER decimating Manhattan- but still- if you are going to use the form of "reportage" to tell the story, do not shortchange it by having characters who consistently shatter the audience's willing suspension of disbelief through their absolutely unbelievable actions. The film will quickly fall into the archetypes of the genre and at worst, cliche. This cannot be seen as something different, something that pushes the genre or the medium forward because of its "cinematography". Do not try and pass this off as a auteurist's work of cinematic vision and grandeur. This is merely hackery being disguised by shoddy camera work which is subordinate to poor writing and even poorer execution.

Worst video of the year.

+1. Couldn't have said it better.

Mr.Universe

Jan 22nd, 2008, 12:55 PM

You can't tell me that after getting impaled on an iron rod, you can run to safety after hours of bleeding.

Don't forget that despite being in her PJs, pinned to the floor and her condo basically decimated, she was still able to locate her cell phone.

shaolinmonk

Jan 22nd, 2008, 02:16 PM

Don't forget that despite being in her PJs, pinned to the floor and her condo basically decimated, she was still able to locate her cell phone.

maybe she had it in her hand at the time...everything can always be explained.. if you start trying to make everything believeable by over analyzing it.. you'll just take away the fun....

CSAgent

Jan 22nd, 2008, 02:22 PM

I hate how people overanalyze every work of fiction ever since they started making movies! Gawd damn people, shut the hell up and watch the movie, enjoy it. Movies are fake, its not real, its fictitious, some guy or girl sat down at a desk, and wrote it on paper, or on the computer. You want realism? Go and stick a knife in your shoulder/hand/eye/stomach, there, ya happy? It's real, that's your blood and you're bleeding.

Freakin' unbelievable.

robertalan

Jan 22nd, 2008, 02:55 PM

What a colossal waste of 62 minutes!

Terrible movie.

{{After two terrible movies in a row, with MI:3 and now this, I have lost hope for this Abrams guy doing anything worthwhile with Star Trek.}}

theurbancanadian

Jan 22nd, 2008, 03:28 PM

shaolinmonk

Jan 22nd, 2008, 03:33 PM

You want realism? Go and stick a knife in your shoulder/hand/eye/stomach, there, ya happy? It's real, that's your blood and you're bleeding.

Freakin' unbelievable.

we can turn that into a movie.. and everyone can say how is that real???.. who would actually do that??? lol the circle continues

Psylocke

Jan 22nd, 2008, 04:15 PM

chernabog

Jan 22nd, 2008, 08:24 PM

Saw it today and loved it. Thought it was nice change from the usual monster attacks NYC formula we've seen before. One thing that I think would piss people off is if they didn't follow the online viral marketing campaign for the movie and didn't really know too much of the back story, however I think you can enjoy it without all that for just taking it for what it is.

bembol

Jan 22nd, 2008, 09:27 PM

Talamasca

Jan 22nd, 2008, 09:55 PM

shaolinmonk

Jan 22nd, 2008, 10:26 PM

read this from hofo...

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1313517&page=4

i found this on another site. a lot of theories circulating about where the monster came from.

OK, it took me a while to do this, but this is all the stuff for the viral marketing/backstory into one post. There are sites that you can go to for more information, but for the people who don't feel like looking through everything, here it is. There a few other minor things that I've left out. There's a lot of info, so I hope I organized it okay. Also, for the stuff that's not proven (maybe heavily implied, but not proven), I've marked as Theory. Feel free to add to this. All credit goes to the sites sourced at the bottom, where you can find a little more information, and also to the people who helped translate and transcript everything for that site. Hope this helps, and try to keep this bumped, please.

UPDATE: I've put in another theory or two that were mentioned, and a little more about the FDA approval of Slusho.

__________________________________________________ _____________________________
From JJ Abrams (the producer): The monster has been sleeping beneath the ocean for 1000s of years.

Tagruato is a corporation that owns many different things.

Slusho is a sister corporation for Tagruato.

Slusho is a drink that is sweeping the Asian nation.

Tidowave is sort of environmental group that is against Tagruato, saying that Tagruato pollutes oceans, etc.

Tagruato has at least one deep sea drilling station.

Slusho uses Tagruato to deep sea drill for their secret ingredient (that they dub �Seabed's Nectar�) to their drink

Tidowave warns on their website that Slusho is not FDA approved, and not to drink it.

Theory: The secret ingredient is presumably from the monster

Tagruato�s drilling station (named Chuai) is destroyed. You can see a news clip here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NfTWm1nCgLc. Note: I shouldn't have to put this, but for any idiots out there, this news clip is obviously made for the viral marketing, and is not actually a news clip.

Tagruato blames Tidowave for the attack, Tidowave denies the attack.

Theory: Tidowave attacked attacked the drilling station, which woke the monster up, and the monster then destroyed the station. OR the drilling woke up the monster, and the monster destroyed the station.

Tidowave speaks of staging an "event" on their website.

Theory: This could be the destruction of the "oil drilling rig".

Slusho and "Seabed's Nectar" is approved by the FDA.

Tagruato owns a subsidiary called Bold Futura. They launched a satellite (called the Hatsui satellite) that collects data and takes pictures of the ocean (or the ocean bed).

Theory: The satellite located the monster from which they gained the nectar for Slusho.

The Tagruato website had this posted: �In their latest gesture to reach out to fellow man, Tagruato used the Hatsui satellite to try to identify a rogue piece that is thought to have fallen off of the Japanese Government�s �ChimpanzIII� satellite. Although Hatsui�s work has not yet been able to confirm the identity of the fallen piece, Tagruato scientists and engineers are busily trying to track and recover the fragment. According to Hatsui data, it disappeared into the Atlantic Ocean late last week.�

Theory: This is what is seen in the ending seen from Rob's camera.

Alternate Theory to drilling/destruction of drilling station woke up monster: The crash from the satellite awoke the monster.

A memo containing financial data for the drilling station was sent as an e-mail for people who ordered Slusho products, with the words "Americans, No oil here! They must have known before they built- The Whistleblower� written at the top.

(This backs up the theory that the drilling is just a front to get nectar from the monster)

__________________________________________________ ______________________

JAMIE & TEDDY STUFF- This is another tie-in to the movie. Site: www.jamieandteddy.com (password: jllovesth). The site contains webvids from Jamie to her boyfriend Teddy. The following recaps all of the webvids.

Jamie and Teddy know Jason, Lily, and Marlena.

Jamie and Teddy are dating

Teddy goes off to do something far away. We aren�t told what

Jamie makes webvids for Teddy to watch while he's away.

Teddy sends Jamie a gift, but tells her not to open it until December.

We learn that Teddy has not called Jamie, and is usually pretty good about calling her.

December rolls around, and Jamie opens the gift. She receives a Slusho hat, what seems to be a sample of "Seabed's Nectar", and a message from Teddy:

The message reads: �Jamie, listen to me, alright this is not a joke. If you're hearing this before we've spoken, then it means that I've been captured by the company called Tagruato. Ok, TAG-RU-ATO. Now listen. You, this is important. Don't call the authorities. It'll screw everything up. Just sit tight and wait to hear from Randy. He knows to call you. We're on their station ok, and it's like they've found something, or they're making something, but the point is, I can't, I'm not going to be calling you again. You're not gonna hear from me again. I just want you to wait for Randy� he will explain�

Theory: This implies that Teddy is working for Tidowave.

Theory: Teddy is on the oil rigging station undercover, but has been found out by Tagruato.

Jamie decides to call Teddy's bluff and calls Tagruato, which denies Teddy's affiliation, saying they've never heard of him. Jamie immediately gets a call from an unknown number speaking a foreign language, who she hangs up on because she can�t understand them.

Jamie now thinks Teddy is cheating on her for not returning her calls.
Jamie is angry.

Jamie eats "Seabed's Nectar".

Jamie says that the stuff makes her "see everything a lot clearer now".

Jamie cuts the head off a teddy bear to show she is angry at Teddy.

Transcript from Jamie's last video: "Love you haha, I am finally over you and you know what, I feel like a whole new woman and it�s like it�s gonna be the first night of the rest of my life and and Lily is putting this thing together, and I�m gonna go to it and I don�t know why I just soo like I�m like uh the happiest the happiest I�ve ever been in my whole life and I don�t know I have like MASSIVE amounts of energy I�m gonna have MASSIVE amounts of sex with Schneider and it�s just gonna be great and I just think you should say goodbye to these breast (kisses breasts) cause you�re never gonna see them again and look here (slaps butt) I think you�re pathetic."

Note: Jamie can be seen at Rob�s party passed out on a couch.

End of Jamie�s webvids.

Alternate Theory to Seabed's Nectar comes from the monster: Seabed's Nectar is what made and\or transformed the monster. This could be evidenced by the fact that Jamie has gone crazy and feels powerful, etc.

Tagruato puts out a memo that reads:

"{TO:} Level 1 Temporary Provision Staff Member
{FROM:} Judgement Council
{SUBJECT: Trusting Those Out of Our Sight}
{DATE:}11/24/2007

Effective Immediately!

Over the next few days, because of the incident that took place, starting now all letters to the outside will first
pass through our communication center, or they will not go out. Level 1 Personnel? They will remain where they are,
making certain to read the message from start to finish. (How will they know it is authentic, this message that is
dispatched everywhere? When it is inscribed by the ?.)

In addition, working hard/employment rusted overtime? As for the employees, they will be made to wait in their
appointed lodging facility until told otherwise.

If one witnesses an act of misconduct, and neglects to report it to the Council, Chuai�s department bureau will enforce
principles and regard it as a violation. There will be no exceptions."

The back reads" Americans,

The Chuai station hides a dark secret. Good people are going missing. Expect further communication in the near future. - the Whistle Blower"

Theory: The incident is the discovery of Teddy as a double agent for Tidowave.
Theory: Teddy is "The Whistleblower" mentioned earlier

END OF JAMIE/TEDDY STUFF
__________________________________________________ ____________________________

A comment on the Slusho website says simply "BLOOP!". This is possibly a reference to the "BLOOP!" incident of 1997 in which the US detected an ultra-low frequency in the ocean. According to the NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) description, it "rises rapidly in frequency over about one minute and was of sufficient amplitude to be heard on multiple sensors, at a range of over 5,000 km." Though it matches the audio profile of a living creature, there is no known animal that could have produced the sound. If it is an animal, it would have to be, reportedly, much larger than even a Blue Whale, according to scientists who have studied the phenomenon.

Slusho T-Shirts were shipped with half a page of a Japanese newspaper that could be about Hideki Matsui who plays for the Yankeess and is nicknamed "Godzilla".

Rob is in charge of duplicating Slusho�s success in the States.

Sources:
www.Cloverfieldnews.com
www.Cloverfieldclues.com
www.wikipedia.org (for the �BLOOP!� incident)

Allstarplaya546

Jan 22nd, 2008, 10:37 PM

What a terrible movie. Talk about a total waste of time.

I think I'll make a new movie with my HandyCam, and set record sales @ the box office, along with making hundreds of millions.

Paranoidandroid

Jan 23rd, 2008, 12:02 AM

What a terrible movie. Talk about a total waste of time.

I think I'll make a new movie with my HandyCam, and set record sales @ the box office, along with making hundreds of millions.
Sounds good! Don't forget about creating the CG, and coming up with an ingenious viral marketing idea to create the backstory!

Badman

Jan 23rd, 2008, 11:28 AM

woah shaolinmonk that was more story than what the movie had.

Thanks for the update.

jeffyjaixx

Jan 23rd, 2008, 11:47 AM

Thanks for that summary, shaolinmonk. Appreciate it.

ephemera

Jan 23rd, 2008, 12:06 PM

I saw the movie and it was fantastic! I didn't know any of the backstory nor did I want to read any press reviews. I wanted to watch it totally fresh, and I came out thinking, WTF?! What happened! Now I want to watch it again and again looking for further clues. It had me on the edge of my seat. I hope there is a sequel or prequel.

Kerlo

Jan 23rd, 2008, 01:21 PM

Major Spoiler!!! . . . sort of . . . cause you won't be able to tell when watching the movie . . .

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=467110#467110

theurbancanadian

Jan 23rd, 2008, 03:15 PM

woah shaolinmonk that was more story than what the movie had.

Thanks for the update.

That's the point. The movie is from one person's perspective. It's the viral marketing that's telling everything else.

shaolinmonk

Jan 23rd, 2008, 04:57 PM

i just found the post.. i don't take credit for compiling it

somemale

Jan 23rd, 2008, 05:04 PM

op should update the thread title no?

Pro

Jan 24th, 2008, 11:29 AM

Sick movie!! A lot of great scenes! Also some amazing scene transitions!
I say 4 out of 5! No one has ever seen anything like this before or atleast having it done so well. The actors were all "nobodys" and they all did a great job. I just gotta say WOW to all the haters that try to flame this movie. Get your heads out of your asses! Are you all upset because you got caught up in some insane hype and felt like you were let down? I didn't follow any of the viral campaign and I didn't even know about it! I think watching the movie first and later looking deeper into all these back-stories and theories makes me want to watch the movie again! And that's something I'll be doing later this week.

robertalan

Jan 24th, 2008, 12:04 PM

I just gotta say WOW to all the haters that try to flame this movie. Get your heads out of your asses!

Same goes for all the lovers that try to praise this movie.

Carpe Diem

Jan 24th, 2008, 12:42 PM

http://tinyurl.com/2ajwnt

ephemera

Jan 24th, 2008, 01:10 PM

Major Spoiler!!! . . . sort of . . . cause you won't be able to tell when watching the movie . . .

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=467110#467110

OMG! That is so crazy! I MUST see this movie again and again!

Kerlo

Jan 24th, 2008, 09:29 PM

For the people who didn't "get it" and for those who are mad obsessed . . . alot of the movie's concepts are explained in the link below in the production notes.

I do not recommend click on this link if you haven't seen the movie yet as it contains quite a few spoilers (the blue text sections). However, if you want to fully understand the movie before seeing it, then by all means read the notes.

http://home.windstream.net/dacevedo/cloverfield/cloverfieldproductionnotes.htm

thelefteyeguy

Jan 25th, 2008, 11:18 PM

just came back...7.5/10

...sorry got to run to the washroom and hurl ..........BLAH!

1/4 of the ppl left the theater...I wanted too...but this movie is like crack

FearSonic

Jan 27th, 2008, 01:02 AM

Before I read anything that explains the movie, or whatever, I'm going to give an unbiased review based on what I had expected, and what I saw.

**SPOILERS**

Before going to the movie, I had expected a good thriller with a possible shaky cam and intense action sequences. I expected a bit of explaination or just hints regarding what was happening, or none at all as long as it was a thrill ride. I expected at least a fine movie with a monster tearing apart Manhattan.

After walking out of the movie, I uttered "I hated that movie" to my friends. Of course a few of them thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. But here's why:
1) Shaky cam + foot vision, do I really need the majority of the movie to be the shakiest camera in the world with a lot of that footage pointed towards the ground? No, I don't care if the camera wasn't stable, but we're talking about sticking a camera inside a paint shaking machine, and then having it run around New York.
2) Clicheed love story thrown into the mix, just to give the characters a little purpose. I would imagine RUNNING FOR YOUR LIVES would have been purpose enough to be interesting, but we had to throw in this entire mix about Beth and Ron having sex and being wildly in love.
3) Very tired dialogue. The interaction between characters was similar to laying my head down on a table and putting a drill to my right temple.
4) We hardly ever got to see the monster in action. At any given moment that Hud could have shot the monster, he decided to shoot whatever was around. I guess they were trying to hide it until the very end, but the appearance of the monster at the very end was extremely underwhelming.

That's just some of my gripes. I will say this, the attack on Manhattan itself looked gorgeous, and any aerial footage of the monster was easily the best footage in the movie. I also liked that it felt as if the entire US Army was trying to take care of the situation because of all the tanks and jeeps and jets they used in the movie.

Lastly, if they decide to make a sequel, I do hope it's a proper sequel without the shaky camera. Walking out of the theater, I felt just fine but when we got into the car, the back of my head began to pound.

With that said, I give the movie a 6.5/10, and I hereby rename it to "Cloverfoot".

eightyeight

Jan 27th, 2008, 01:08 AM

I saw this movie today - absolutely amazing..

It was so well done - sets the bar high for the remainder of films this year.

Makes me wonder how **** like 'Meet the Spartans' makes it to theatres.. Well, actually it makes perfect sense, as 95% (not exaggerating) of the patrons were all mentioning the words "movie" and "****" in the same sentence. People were yelling out dumbass **** they thought was funny, people were listening to music at full volume (I COULD HEAR THEIR EARPHONES DURING THE QUIET PARTS!!?!?!).. No respect for the film or the few of us actually enjoying every second of it.

People went in expecting Rambo, and got a piece of actual film. They didn't understand what was going on.. If there isn't a full-auto chaingun slicing through bad guy #284 or terrible 300 parodies, then it must not be a real movie, right?

That's the last goddamn time I see an artistic movie @ Yorkdale.. Plus the fact that I used up my Scene freebie may be a reason as well ;)

Newt

Jan 27th, 2008, 01:47 AM

I felt like hurling after 20 minutes or so. This is the first time that has happened since I have never had problems with FPS games or movies.

Other than that, I thought it was a mediocre movie. The love story was interesting to me but the rest was somewhat meh. Or maybe I was just too busy feeling sick to enjoy it.

MediumMike

Jan 27th, 2008, 02:40 AM

I have heard that the movie makes some sick due to how the movie was shot.

I have not seen it yet. In all the commercials you do not see the monster. Do you get a clear shot of it in the movie?

calvinmun

Jan 27th, 2008, 03:03 AM

Ok, I just saw this movie with some buddies. Really clever idea of the POV perspective of film. Cloverfield started off really great, and as it progressed...it just started to suck a little bit. Throughout the whole movie, the sound effects and video effects were awesome, especially the way they did the monsters. The ending was probably the part of the movie I will never forget, it was so...horrible, misleading, and confusing. This movie is decent if your baked off your ass, but probably isn't worth paying 10 bucks for :(

Overall:
9/10 for Sound effects - great 3d surround sound effects.
8/10 for video effects - monsters were awesome
5/10 for storyline
0/10 for a the ending - what a ****** ending.

robertalan

Jan 27th, 2008, 07:21 AM

I have heard that the movie makes some sick due to how the movie was shot.

I have not seen it yet. In all the commercials you do not see the monster. Do you get a clear shot of it in the movie?

The monster, though essentially unimportant to the storyline, was the best part of the movie, because they barely showed it - at least up till the end, when they ruined it by showing way too much.

jonno

Jan 27th, 2008, 08:15 AM

OMG! That is so crazy! I MUST see this movie again and again!

Not Dharma.. ughhhh I'm already addicted enough to LOST

7/10 on Cloverfield. I think I hyped it up too much before watching it IMO

pgfreak

Jan 27th, 2008, 02:00 PM

This movie is amazing. One of the best movies Ive seen in a long time.

It is a perfect movie that relates to this days youtube/facebook times and all.
And it wasnt just a cheesy monster movie, it was about these people and their relationships with each other. They made you feel for the characters.

SPOILER :

I was pissed when HUD died :evil: , and his girl lol

1jVu

Jan 27th, 2008, 02:47 PM

guys!
at the end of the credits..

ull hear a voice. its whispering "help us.."

but if you listen to that clip REVERSED it will say "its still alive"

SO THERE PROBABLY MOST LIKELY WILL BE A SEQUEL TO THE HEADACHE

edit: heres the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcriLoiOAow&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKL-WB83pe0&feature=related

pgfreak

Jan 27th, 2008, 03:31 PM

Yup, I hope there is another one.
I hope before making a sequal they release something Cloverfield 1.5 but from someone else's POV.
We've seen it from Hud, an unexperienced camera operator. But what about from the POV of a reporter? A reporter with his/her cameraman that risk their lives to get good footage maybe?
just an idea

CouchPotato

Jan 27th, 2008, 09:04 PM

Cloverfield plummets in week 2.

From BoxOfficeProphets

So, after finishing last weekend as the biggest January opener of all time ($40.1 million opening), Cloverfield got absolutely hammered this weekend. J.J. Abrams' �monster movie via camcorder' earned only $12.7 million in its second frame, giving this one a monstrous drop of 68%. We knew Cloverfield was going to be front-loaded, but no one saw this coming. With pop culture flicks like Meet the Spartans and Rambo opening, dollars were drawn away from the creature feature. As we discussed last weekend, what happens after the opening means little to Paramount. Cloverfield has a production budget of only $25 million, a figure it easily earned in its first two days of release. So far, Cloverfield has earned $64.3 million, and should finish with about $85 million.

BuildBuyBreed

Jan 27th, 2008, 09:43 PM

Super strokey

Jan 27th, 2008, 09:48 PM

This was such a good movie, i really enjoed it. Plus there was swears in it and its pg13 isnt it? I wasnt wild about the girl getting the rod stabbed through her but being ok lol. Other than thati was really really fun to watch and enjoy. Totally lived up to the hype for me but i avoided any exposeure at all to it as well and im glad I did. Ive not read this whole thread but did you guys see the anime book i guess he worked on thats almost exactly like this? Gives a few more tips on what was happening and why.

pgfreak

Jan 27th, 2008, 09:58 PM

Ugh... totally over-rated... headache and puke inducing. I give it a 5/10... it was so-so... Rambo way better.

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1. If you're documenting the destruction and monster, then keep the damned camera on it.

2. Stupid whining/lamenting main dude always crying about that girl... then going to find her thus risking everyone's life... yeesh.

3. No swearing? C'mon... in a situation like that, there'd be a helluva lot more "crap/eff" words... I know it's rated PG.

4. Girl's impaled by a steel rod yet lives? Even though it's in her shoulder, shock, pain, blood loss, infection etc. would've killed her.

5. Surviving a helicopter crash from skyscraper height without any injury whatsoever!?!

6. Getting chewed up by the monster but face is still oxy-clean?

7. Shaky-cam sux. Like after playing video games for hours.

I did like the concept though, monster destruction from the ground's eye view.

1. He was not documenting the destruction and the monster, he was documenting the party and all of that happened , then they were trying to be safe and find the girl so he kept taping... they didnt seek out the damn monster

2. He was in love with her and also he told everyone not to go but they stuck with him

3. You were never in a situation like that

4. Shoulder, also while its in there, not much blood would be lost after the initial blood loss, since the pole is stopping the blood from coming out (she would probably die later on from blood loss after they took it out) and you dont die from infection right away.

5. You dont know what the injuries were, and I think they included some symbolism there because before they fell, he was praying to be saved so they probably added a little cliche due to the praying thing. Also, we dont know how bad they fell, I am assuming it wasnt a face first dive type thing. And the helicopter didnt seem to explode so I dont think the fall was THAT bad, they probably didnt lose altitude that fast.

6. Remember that the monster was eating people before. Why would it CHEW him up and then drop him. I am assuming it just picked up him really high and then dropped him from a height where he died from the fall.

7. Well he isnt going to walk around with a dolly and tripod while running and all that

pgfreak

Jan 27th, 2008, 09:59 PM

matdwyer

Jan 28th, 2008, 03:37 AM

spooooooooooooiler

hmmm... I walked out of it pretty angry... I know that a movie like this isn't "supposed" to have an ending, but I want to know the ending! And the helicopter fall is a bit ridiculous, I can totally understand how people are saying that.

I want to know how the table doesn't get obliterated when they nuke the whole island lol

Kerlo

Jan 28th, 2008, 08:54 AM

WAnt to give us a link to the book?

http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/tachiyomi/comic/cloverfield/_SWF_Window.html

Have fun reading it! lolz.....

Below is a thread which analyzes the manga.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23570

Here is a news article which gives a good summarization of the Comic.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12752

chrome_dout

Jan 28th, 2008, 09:23 AM

Saw it last night. I think it could have been better, but I'm wondering why the monster didn't attack Japan (assuming they did their deep sea drilling somewhere on that side of the world) which would have made more sense from a "story" standpoint.
Incidentally I came across this link F23 (http://gizmodo.com/347463/the-real-camera-behind-cloverfield) about the real camera they used, I like the pic of the little SD card. I wonder if this camera has an image stabilizer function? :lol:

VIKKO

Jan 28th, 2008, 09:27 AM

saw cloverfield last night

thought it was amazing. i just want to be entertained and i was in suspense throughout the entire movie

good movie!

brown chick was hot too ^_^

CSAgent

Jan 28th, 2008, 10:38 AM

Saw it last night. I think it could have been better, but I'm wondering why the monster didn't attack Japan (assuming they did their deep sea drilling somewhere on that side of the world) which would have made more sense from a "story" standpoint.

Read the back story. Or better yet, the beginning of this thread.

Chuai station - located off the coast of Connecticut, in between NYC and Connecticut.

FearSonic

Jan 28th, 2008, 11:20 AM

1. He was not documenting the destruction and the monster, he was documenting the party and all of that happened , then they were trying to be safe and find the girl so he kept taping... they didnt seek out the damn monster

2. He was in love with her and also he told everyone not to go but they stuck with him

1. He said people should see this, so in effect, he was trying to document the monster and the destruction it was leaving behind. The party was long over when the monster came, but he never shot footage of the monster, especially during that scene with the army people. I thought that was stupid that he would just film his friends rather than the monster, WHICH WAS RIGHT THERE!

2. Stupid plot device that should have ended 2 minutes into the movie with all of them getting crushed. Or eaten.

Arcum

Jan 28th, 2008, 11:32 AM

I thought it was great. A lot of people were upset at the ending but really, what did they expect? Of course it was gonna end with them dying/unresolved monster.

I wasn't aware of the viral marketing/backstory/clues before I saw the movie, but reading all of it makes me want to see it again.

I was surprised at the 2nd week drop, I saw it Friday in theatres and it was full! We got there just as the movie was starting and we sat in the very first row. Neck straining action combined with shaky cam LOL.

Haz

Jan 28th, 2008, 12:43 PM

brown chick was hot too ^_^Jessica Lucas (http://imdb.com/name/nm1140300/) was born in raised in Vancouver! Another hot Canadian makes it to Hollywood!

VIKKO

Jan 28th, 2008, 01:54 PM

Jessica Lucas (http://imdb.com/name/nm1140300/) was born in raised in Vancouver! Another hot Canadian makes it to Hollywood!

she survives too!

hopefully shes in the sequel...and naked O_O

pgfreak

Jan 28th, 2008, 07:27 PM

1. He said people should see this, so in effect, he was trying to document the monster and the destruction it was leaving behind. The party was long over when the monster came, but he never shot footage of the monster, especially during that scene with the army people. I thought that was stupid that he would just film his friends rather than the monster, WHICH WAS RIGHT THERE!

2. Stupid plot device that should have ended 2 minutes into the movie with all of them getting crushed. Or eaten.

with the monster destorying the city beside you to your left and armoured tanks firing and guns to your right, I would think he didnt know what the hell to do and try to film something that wouldnt make him **** in his pants

2. It was a good plot device... The last time Rob talked to his brother, his bro told him to go after the girl, and Rob couldnt just go on not listening to his brother's virtually last wish/suggestion... also, he lost his bro so he is tryna save at least someone he loves

BuildBuyBreed

Jan 28th, 2008, 09:03 PM

1. He was not documenting the destruction and the monster, he was documenting the party and all of that happened , then they were trying to be safe and find the girl so he kept taping... they didnt seek out the damn monster

Uh... giant creature destroying everything around you but gotta keep the camera on your friends... right. He even says he's documenting it "for people to see" what happened. Totally crap when he decides to keep the cam on his friends crossing the 2 towers after rescuing the (should-be) dead girl, instead of pointing it at the monster that's miles away for a perfect and clear shot of it. (as FearSonic said)

2. He was in love with her and also he told everyone not to go but they stuck with him

Totally selfish of him, then again... he was thinking with his little head.

3. You were never in a situation like that

Uh, ya... I don't think I'll ever be in a situation where my city is being attacked by a giant monster. But I know for a fact that people swear for lesser events... like... uh... war?

4. Shoulder, also while its in there, not much blood would be lost after the initial blood loss, since the pole is stopping the blood from coming out (she would probably die later on from blood loss after they took it out) and you dont die from infection right away.

Internal bleeding, pain, shock, unconsciousness, blah-blah-blah.

5. You dont know what the injuries were, and I think they included some symbolism there because before they fell, he was praying to be saved so they probably added a little cliche due to the praying thing. Also, we dont know how bad they fell, I am assuming it wasnt a face first dive type thing. And the helicopter didnt seem to explode so I dont think the fall was THAT bad, they probably didnt lose altitude that fast.

Yeesh... they fell from above a skyscraper! Try jumping of your place's roof and tell me if you can get up right away. Oh... and the prayer thing makes it even MORE unbelievable.

6. Remember that the monster was eating people before. Why would it CHEW him up and then drop him. I am assuming it just picked up him really high and then dropped him from a height where he died from the fall.

I guess you missed the grinding/chewing/squishing sounds.

7. Well he isnt going to walk around with a dolly and tripod while running and all that

They could've made the movie third-person... with a steady-cam... like War of The Worlds.

HIGHLY OVER-RATED.

robertalan

Jan 29th, 2008, 05:42 AM

Uh... giant creature destroying everything around you but gotta keep the camera on your friends... right. He even says he's documenting it "for people to see" what happened. Totally crap when he decides to keep the cam on his friends crossing the 2 towers after rescuing the (should-be) dead girl, instead of pointing it at the monster that's miles away for a perfect and clear shot of it. (as FearSonic said)

Totally selfish of him, then again... he was thinking with his little head.

Uh, ya... I don't think I'll ever be in a situation where my city is being attacked by a giant monster. But I know for a fact that people swear for lesser events... like... uh... war?

Internal bleeding, pain, shock, unconsciousness, blah-blah-blah.

Yeesh... they fell from above a skyscraper! Try jumping of your place's roof and tell me if you can get up right away. Oh... and the prayer thing makes it even MORE unbelievable.

I guess you missed the grinding/chewing/squishing sounds.

They could've made the movie third-person... with a steady-cam... like War of The Worlds.

HIGHLY OVER-RATED.
While I agree with you about this film being highly over-rated, your laundry list of complaints are traditionally overcome by the movie viewer's voluntary suspension of disbelief to allow a movie to work it's magic on them. If your not willing to play the game, it's better to just sit it out and let the others have their fun.

Additionally, the point about filming the movie from a third-person perspective would have been a big plus. After all, every movie is made from a third person perspective of an invisible cameraman, seeing things from the optimal perspective. In Cloverfield the first person POV was just a conceit, a cheat, and ultimately just a marketing gimmick. Even if they chose to go with this technique, there was no need to swing the camera around so wildly. Even the worst camcorder user, can manage to hold it steadier than that, especially at the party at the beginning.

One idea I did like (I think it was Roger Ebert's) was that the movie should have been distributed not as a theatrical movie, but rather as a tape to be passed around and viewed on your own camcorder's viewfinder screen or on your cellphone. If the producer had gone for an innovative idea like that, I might agree that Cloverfield was a great movie.

FearSonic

Jan 29th, 2008, 11:09 AM

with the monster destorying the city beside you to your left and armoured tanks firing and guns to your right, I would think he didnt know what the hell to do and try to film something that wouldnt make him **** in his pants

2. It was a good plot device... The last time Rob talked to his brother, his bro told him to go after the girl, and Rob couldnt just go on not listening to his brother's virtually last wish/suggestion... also, he lost his bro so he is tryna save at least someone he loves

If I were in that situation, and I demanded to film the entire thing (I wouldn't) I would at least point it at the thing that I wanted to film. It really doesn't make sense not to.

I still think it's a stupid plot device. Why? The film was marketed as a movie where a mysterious monster destroys the city. What did I get? People in love. No need for that.

AzN_RiverdaleCI

Jan 29th, 2008, 11:42 AM

18 pages! I srsly need 2 c dis movie.

dandiggler

Jan 29th, 2008, 05:00 PM

wow, it was so deep about relationships and love....

(sarcasm)

I was looking forward to a great movie and was let down once again.

As much as I wanted to like this movie I was bored for most of it and thought the relationships of all the characters were pushed on toohard and too fast from the start.

The camera style was the only origional thing in this movie.

CSAgent

Jan 29th, 2008, 05:39 PM

People like love stories. If the focus was the guy going back to find his friend or family, people wouldn't be engaged. The audience likes sweet, sappy entendre love stories between guy girl, and in the rare case, guy and guy. (See Brokeback Mountain.)

Despite it short comings, some scenes made me jump out of my seat. Like the first time the parasites were in the subway tunnel after switching on night vision.

For a hand held camera though, you have to admit the sound quality was great. ;)

In any case, its budget of $25 million was surpassed within the first weekend alone of $41 million. Profit they have made from this movie and a sequel will be coming, yessss... So obviously, something worked for this movie otherwise people would not have flocked to see it.

andrew2good4u

Jan 30th, 2008, 04:13 PM

18 pages! I srsly need 2 c dis movie.

save your money and download it.

I was sitting there and the end just HOPING the credits wouldn't play.. lol
Movie's kinda short too though eh? OR am I just being biased?

CanadaBoy

Jan 31st, 2008, 03:13 PM

IMHO one of the worst movies I have seen in my life.

So unrealistic. How can the humans and the camera survive all that shait.

nfnx

Feb 1st, 2008, 03:24 PM

they still didnt explain how the monster came like wtf

PSiBeR

Feb 1st, 2008, 09:46 PM

they still didnt explain how the monster came like wtf

According to the production notes:

The concept for the monster (affectionately known simply as �Clover� in-house) is simple, says Abrams. �He�s a baby. He�s brand-new. He�s confused, disoriented and irritable. And he�s been down there in the water for thousands and thousands of years.�

I still think Cloverfield is the best monster movie to date in todays generation, a new take on a monster movie. Although the monsters facial features could have used some work.. it looked weird.

jerichoblade

Feb 2nd, 2008, 02:03 AM

Obviously, the camera viewpoint is either something you appreciate or dislike so much you run to the RedFlagDeals forums and call Cloverfield "one of the worst movies I have seen in my life" (although I'm sure not everyone is thick enough to proceed to bashing a sci-fi movie for unrealism).

Yeah, it was marketed as a gimmick... personally though I found the first person POV delivered and made the movie much more entertaining. And sorry, but 3rd person would've ruined a huge part of what the movie is: the first person experience, bumps and all. It would've taken a minute for the monster to get old if we got to clearly see the monster hulking around in the background.

This might be just my opinion, but I though the movie succeeded as a fresh movie in a box office full of tired sequels or remakes. If movie tickets are votes, I'm all for new directors like Matt Reeves. Overhyped? Probably. But if you're going to see any movie out right now, Cloverfield is leagues better than the infinitely abundant Rambo or Meet the Spartans movies.

kleptodathief

Feb 2nd, 2008, 05:04 AM

cud NOT watch this movie..i seen like the first 5mins of it and had motion sickness!! waste of a dl >:(

appleb

Feb 2nd, 2008, 05:08 AM

cud NOT watch this movie..i seen like the first 5mins of it and had motion sickness!! waste of a dl >:(

You might enjoy it better if you didn't download and watch the camcorder edition.

wikkid_bigshot

Feb 5th, 2008, 09:33 PM

I am with the fair percentage of people that cant stand shakey camera. I should had learned from Blair Witch, but Cloverfield REALLY made me sick. I had to stop watching it on a few occasion, making me miss a good portion of the movie. From what I understand this happened to a lot more people than I expected (I get motion sickness pretty easily).

I hope they dont make too much POV shakey camera movies. Or at least have "resting period" where the camera is not shakey for people to recover.

andrew2good4u

Feb 6th, 2008, 08:50 AM

No offense to anyone but how do you get motion sickness?
Just because the camera is shaking? I don't really understand.

Just to clarify, this is a serious question.. not a diss

robertalan

Feb 6th, 2008, 09:26 AM

No offense to anyone but how do you get motion sickness?
Just because the camera is shaking? I don't really understand.

Just to clarify, this is a serious question.. not a diss

About a third of the people I know have motion sickness from shakycam movies, rollercoasters, long car drives, boats, etc. They just seem to have been born with it - there's really nothing to understand, but it's very real.

(Here's the Wikipedia page on motion sickness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_sickness).)

sonic

Feb 6th, 2008, 11:47 PM

I was actually ok with it....before the movie i took a half gravol & an advil. (just in case) yes the shaky cam bugged the hell outta me, but the movie had some good moments that made me jump.
Im glad it was only 85 mins long.

kleptodathief

Feb 7th, 2008, 09:48 AM

i don't get motion sickness from rollercoasters, but just watching videos on shaky cam/POV (ie home amateur clips) is where i can't take it! i'll get dizzy and feel like im bout to throw up!

thelefteyeguy

Feb 7th, 2008, 10:14 AM

a decade of Quake and Doom f'ed me good...not even 2mins of home videos make me want to vomit

but cloverfield was indeed crack...you know it's bad for you but...

VIKKO

Feb 7th, 2008, 01:23 PM

its dumb to say i dont like this movie because its unrealistic because most movies arent realistic

be more original if you're going to bash this movie

i liked it because i was entertained.
and there was hardly a love story.

felixdd

Feb 11th, 2008, 11:53 PM

The monster, though essentially unimportant to the storyline, was the best part of the movie, because they barely showed it - at least up till the end, when they ruined it by showing way too much.
SPOILER ALERT

I agree! I think it would've been perfect to end it when the chopper went down.

But it's a small complaint. Damn I loved that movie! I walked out with a headache but I don't care! I've never been this immersed in a movie since...ever.
It would be neat if they did a re-release from the POV of a military personel. This time though it should be third person. This way you can get a re-telling of the story.

Paranoidandroid

Feb 22nd, 2008, 12:09 PM

So Cloverfield 2 is in the works:
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt1179933/

This is the supposed viral site:
http://www.aladygma.com/

Discuss.

Madchester

Feb 22nd, 2008, 02:37 PM

Moby - Disco Lies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwyPI-zKqRs)

New video for a track from Moby's upcoming album. The song was featured in the film's party scene.

coriolis

Mar 28th, 2008, 08:48 PM

So Cloverfield 2 is in the works:
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt1179933/

This is the supposed viral site:
http://www.aladygma.com/

Discuss.

If you pretty TAB, you scroll through hidden links to hidden pages which is pretty interesting....

Haz

Mar 28th, 2008, 08:58 PM

If you pretty TAB, you scroll through hidden links to hidden pages which is pretty interesting....Dang. Didn't notice that right way. Interesting indeed.

xpoint9

Mar 28th, 2008, 09:47 PM

some of them:

http://www.aladygma.com/w2a/
http://www.aladygma.com/dan%20y/
http://www.aladygma.com/%20%20%20/
http://www.aladygma.com/0%200%200%203%207%208/

Ojam

Mar 28th, 2008, 10:16 PM

some of them:

http://www.aladygma.com/w2a/
http://www.aladygma.com/dan%20y/
http://www.aladygma.com/%20%20%20/
http://www.aladygma.com/0%200%200%203%207%208/

I don't think it's cloverfield 2. It could be though. The first pic is the plaque from Pioneer. It then morphs to the same thing, but with what looks like an Alien (the Giger Alien no less) and an error pointing from the representation of Pioneer on the plaque to a biological symbol.

2nd picture, subway map, but under it is a news paper talking about 9/11.

3rd don't know, other then the obvious, it's a skull.

4th is kind of creepy.

buffylover

Mar 29th, 2008, 08:25 AM

if you go and click the white space in the top right corner it says on the page..

student thomas room 211

and also when you click on another white space it says "rengul nie tsi samoht"

backwards i is "thomas is tein lugner" which if im correct in german means
thomas is a lier.

babaji

Mar 29th, 2008, 11:42 AM

so cool

Ojam

Apr 4th, 2008, 06:07 PM

1-18-08 has been updated, there is a new picture of Teddy.

MrDisco

Apr 4th, 2008, 06:24 PM

1-18-08 has been updated, there is a new picture of Teddy.

flip the pic...there's a small symbol in the corner

silentio

Apr 5th, 2008, 01:43 PM

I take it a camcorder version of this camcorder film would be ultra nauseating?

sk1nnywallet

Apr 5th, 2008, 04:50 PM

I hate Cloverfield
Dumb movie

Ojam

Apr 5th, 2008, 06:01 PM

There are "sword symbols" on all the ARG sites now.

1-18-08.com
slusho.jp
tidowave.com
tagruato.jp
jamieandteddy.com