Grade 12's applying this year...

[kt11]

Thought we should have a thread for them.

Anyways, here's a brief time-line.

November/December - PINS are in, that means you can choose programs. I reccomend starting on the 1st day of Winter Break, so you can work on some supplementaries as well.
- Some keeners who apply the moment they get them might receive an acceptance in a week or two, assuming they had good grade 11 marks. Schools like UOttawa, Carleton, etc sent them out early.
January 10th (could be 11th this year) - You best have applied or you're in trouble :lol: If you wanted to apply to the name-brand programs such Mac Health Sci, Schulich, Queen's Commerce, UW AFM, etc and some Concurrent Programs (where you earn a B.Ed at the same time) expire on January 10th.
February - Most of the time is spent working on supplementary applications, if you chose UW AFM you are invited to the AFMAA (Admissions Assignment). Offers might be coming out here and there, none of those name brand programs though. Early acceptances come out most of the time.
March - A bit more into the heat, schools such as Mac, WLU, Guelph are sending out offers. Open house and tours are starting. UW AFM, Queen's Commerce sent out offers around this time.
April - Heat is on, lots more offers. However, some schools send offers in 2 rounds so don't panic if you don't receive anything. They usually start from top to lowest.
May - Now or never, expect all the days leading up to the 28th to be really tense if you didn't get anything. Schools like UofT and UofW have a tendency to wait close towards the end.
May 28th - You must commit to a school, you might get 3-4 days lee-way from some schools. After that they take away their offer.
Post-exams - Make sure you meet their minimum requirements...otherwise goodbye :razz:


You're going to have mark transmissions throughout the year, they get there about 3 weeks after the report card, sometimes well over that amount. Any other questions, just ask in this thread...

[cell567]

Not sure if its relevent to this thread, but besides early acceptance, do 'great' grade 11 marks give you any other benefits towards University? Mine weren't so great, but then again the courses I was taking in grade 11 are much different than what I am taking in grade 12. Any advice would be appreciated. =)

[kt11]

Not sure if its relevent to this thread, but besides early acceptance, do 'great' grade 11 marks give you any other benefits towards University? Mine weren't so great, but then again the courses I was taking in grade 11 are much different than what I am taking in grade 12. Any advice would be appreciated. =)

Very rarely do they look at Grade 11 marks when it comes out to regular acceptances. Grade 11 marks don't mean much overall, just comes down to Grade 12 marks.

[cell567]

Thanks for the quick reply! My exact situation is I have been an honors student throughout elementary and up until grade 11 where I received a 77-78% average throughout (slacking off hardcore, not a good reason, but its the correct one and it didn't help that I took courses I hated). Say I get a 90% average in grade 12. Will business schools such as Schulich automatically deny me entrance because of my grade 11 marks or will they overlook them and base my regular acceptance on my grade 12 marks. Thanks again!

[kt11]

Thanks for the quick reply! My exact situation is I have been an honours student throughout elementary and up until grade where I recieved a 77-78% average throughout grade 11 for example (slacking off hardcore, not a good reason, but its the correct one and it didn't help that I took courses I hated). Say I get a 90% average in grade 12. Will business schools such as Shulich automatically deny me entrance because of my grade 11 marks or will they overlook them and base my regular acceptance on my grade 12 marks. Thanks again!


Nope, they'd never do that. But, when the first set of marks go in, if you're at a semestered school...they may not send an offer. Why? Because they might only have 3-4 marks, and sub-par Grade 11 marks. But during the 2nd round (I beleive they even have a 3rd round) they will make an acceptance*.

I hear for Schulich, they look at your extra-curriculars first then marks; the cut-off this year was around 91-92%.

[cell567]

Thanks for the quick reply once again! I have many extra curriculars and loads of volunteer experience. I am also bilingual and started my own club at school. I hope these contribute to my acceptance to such a school. Also, I am in a non-semestered school so I hope that works in my favor. Any other advice man?

[kt11]

Thanks for the quick reply once again! I have many extra curriculars and loads of volunteer experience. I am also bilingual and started my own club at school. I hope these contribute to my acceptance to such a school. Also, I am in a non-semestered school so I hope that works in my favor. Any other advice man?

Starting a club is great, what's it about though? Try to get some positions as a treasurer within the school, and also outside of the school. I know you need a couple of reference letters as well, so figure out where you'd get that from Bilingual, that's definitely a plus. The more significant your EC's are the better. I went to a non-sem. school...only thing I can say is that make sure you're taking the right courses that you'll do well in. See if you can get your hands on some supp. apps from people who have gotten in...those could be invaluable.

I remember reading a thread about how you were interested in International Exchanges, I think the iBBA program is what you're looking for but the cut-off is generally higher. Don't rule out other schools such as Queen's, UofT or McGill...York is a commuter school so you don't get much of a social experience as I'm told.

[rijet]

Hey, nice time line there, thanks.
Just want to know how much universities look at your volunteering/extracurricular activities? I am thinking of engineering in mac/uw/ut and although I do have some extracurricular and volunteering experience (basically the 40 hours for high school), its not a lot. Will this have any major affect on my admission in the universities?

[skuric]

Hey, nice time line there, thanks.
Just want to know how much universities look at your volunteering/extracurricular activities? I am thinking of engineering in mac/uw/ut and although I do have some extracurricular and volunteering experience (basically the 40 hours for high school), its not a lot. Will this have any major affect on my admission in the universities?

For UofT and UW, I'm pretty sure they only look at extra-cirrics and volunteering stuff, if you're on the borderline marks-wise. They use that extra stuff you did to add a few % to boost your mark up. If your marks are good, then they may not even bother looking at your extra curriculars. It can only help you. Anyone wanna back me up on this?

[tokajim]

i don't know if the mandatory volunteer hours will put you at the head of the line. but certainly extra-curricular activity does nothing but help you. i don't think it's just based on marks though. plenty of people make the cut-offs, but when everyone has 95% how do you separate them? more extra-curricular stuff on your application will differentiate your app from someone who's done nothing except get A's. i would join as many activities as you can handle, especially if it's a position of responsibility within the club. my friends and i started a bunch of random clubs for our application. when you're the seniors at your school, it's not all that intimidating to get involved.

i know personally for me, a good recommendation letter from my teacher got me a fairly early acceptance. i'm not sure if they still do all the math/physics/biology contests but if you are good at that kind of stuff they might be pretty impressed.

[kt11]

For UofT and UW, I'm pretty sure they only look at extra-cirrics and volunteering stuff, if you're on the borderline marks-wise. They use that extra stuff you did to add a few % to boost your mark up. If your marks are good, then they may not even bother looking at your extra curriculars. It can only help you. Anyone wanna back me up on this?

Yup. However, if you're looking at getting scholarships it'll be good to have that. But, UofT does ask you to list whatever clubs you're apart...so atleast have something to put down.

[LegiT]

Are you allowed to apply to only one program per faculty?
And about rejections, say, I apply to Mcmaster Health Sciences, if I'm rejected, will I get an offer for another program or nothing at all?

[kt11]

Are you allowed to apply to only one program per faculty?
And about rejections, say, I apply to Mcmaster Health Sciences, if I'm rejected, will I get an offer for another program or nothing at all?

I don't beleive McMaster gives alternate offers. I'd apply to Science I or Life Science as a backup, just another $33.

[skuric]

Are you allowed to apply to only one program per faculty?
And about rejections, say, I apply to Mcmaster Health Sciences, if I'm rejected, will I get an offer for another program or nothing at all?

Yup, you will get another offer from another program. My friend got rejected to McMaster Health Science with like a 89/90 avg, but got accepted into Radiology or something like that at Mac. He didn't want to take that so now he's going into Life Sci @ UTSG.

[kt11]

LOL, awesome...conflicting replies.

[skuric]

LOL, awesome...conflicting replies.

:P I'm around 90% sure about what I said lol - As in, I distinctly remember him saying that. I'll check though and post back

[kt11]

:P I'm around 90% sure about what I said lol - As in, I distinctly remember him saying that. I'll check though and post back

Probably did...but the one guy who got rejected at our school just went with Life Science. Maybe the didn't send him the alt. because he already had his back-up (life science).:razz:

[LegiT]

lol...wait, so you're allowed multiple applications to a faculty?

I'm in Toronto but have no interest in going to UofT for my undergrad nor do I want to enter radiology at McMaster.

And regarding life sciences at McMaster...there's two options, and I believe honours is an extra year.
Is it beneficial to stay the extra year (money isn't an issue here) and go for honours? Is it looked at when applying for a post undergrad school (e.g., med, dentistry)? Will I be overlooked when applying to a post undergrad spot because the degree took 3 years?

Sorry if my questions seem bothersome. But thanks for your replies.


Honours Science
(No longer called Honours Science, Complementary Studies Option)
The streams available are:
Geoscience (A)
Life Sciences (B)
Mathematical Sciences (C)
Physical Sciences (D)

and


THREE-YEAR B.Sc. PROGRAMMES

Geoscience
Life Science
Mathematical Science
Physical Science

[Dark-Colonel]

Thanks for the quick reply! My exact situation is I have been an honors student throughout elementary and up until grade 11 where I received a 77-78% average throughout (slacking off hardcore, not a good reason, but its the correct one and it didn't help that I took courses I hated). Say I get a 90% average in grade 12. Will business schools such as Schulich automatically deny me entrance because of my grade 11 marks or will they overlook them and base my regular acceptance on my grade 12 marks. Thanks again!

I went to the University Fairs in Sept '06 and at one presentation a presenter made it very clear to everyone.

"Final acceptance/rejection gets based on your six top grade 12 courses". It doesn't matter what school, what program. The final yes or no are based on those 6 grades that you have.

The extras such as volunteering, sports clubs, school clubs, and etcetera is just something that will let them make their decision easier.

There is only one university where your top six grade 12 courses aren't enough. The Royal Military College in Kingston bases 50% of your acceptance on grades, and the other 50% of your military potential.

I have friends who have no extra curricular activities at all get their number one choice.

Honestly, the BEST way to find out exactly what you need is to either e-mail the head person of that faculty/program or attend the University fair and ask the people there. If your lucky, somebody here might actually be in that exact same school/program you want to go.

[alv077]

If you are applying to a school you are grossly overqualified for, hold out until the end before accepting.

Huge, huge scholarships. HUGE. :cheesygri

[blizzah]

If you are applying to a school you are grossly overqualified for, hold out until the end before accepting.

Huge, huge scholarships. HUGE. :cheesygri

So during the accepting period, they will add scholarships, just mail them out? Confused.

[kt11]

So during the accepting period, they will add scholarships, just mail them out? Confused.

They'll include it in the offer letter, they'll tell you're elgible for $xxxx.xx as long as you keep xx.0% average by the end of the year.

[alv077]

They'll include it in the offer letter, they'll tell you're elgible for $xxxx.xx as long as you keep xx.0% average by the end of the year.

Depends which school...

For me, they followed up with more letters and offered more and more each time. This is at a "lesser" school though - doubt you will see much of this at the more prestigious schools.

[skuric]

I remember getting a scholarship from Ryerson like 3 days before the deadline to choose your uni. I already chose another uni a while ago and submitted. Not that it mattered in my case, but I woulda been peeved if I chose another uni but would have chose Ryerson if they sent the scholarship stuff earlier.

[Jon Lai]

I went to the University Fairs in Sept '06 and at one presentation a presenter made it very clear to everyone.

"Final acceptance/rejection gets based on your six top grade 12 courses". It doesn't matter what school, what program. The final yes or no are based on those 6 grades that you have.

The extras such as volunteering, sports clubs, school clubs, and etcetera is just something that will let them make their decision easier.

There is only one university where your top six grade 12 courses aren't enough. The Royal Military College in Kingston bases 50% of your acceptance on grades, and the other 50% of your military potential.

I have friends who have no extra curricular activities at all get their number one choice.

Honestly, the BEST way to find out exactly what you need is to either e-mail the head person of that faculty/program or attend the University fair and ask the people there. If your lucky, somebody here might actually be in that exact same school/program you want to go.

Well it's like this - only do extracurriculars if you have spare time. Don't take time out of your studying to do extracurriculars and think that universities will consider that, because they won't.

I'm also in grade 12 this year and planning to attend either engineering or chartered accountancy at Waterloo. Anyone know if the CA program is strict on the acceptance and what I should be aware of? So far from what I've heard it seems like I'll probably have an easier time applying to computer engineering in comparison to chartered accountancy.

[kt11]

Well it's like this - only do extracurriculars if you have spare time. Don't take time out of your studying to do extracurriculars and think that universities will consider that, because they won't.

I'm also in grade 12 this year and planning to attend either engineering or chartered accountancy at Waterloo. Anyone know if the CA program is strict on the acceptance and what I should be aware of? So far from what I've heard it seems like I'll probably have an easier time applying to computer engineering in comparison to chartered accountancy.

Much easier to get into Engineering. I think alv077 will cover you on AFM...unlesss you mean Math/CA.

[alv077]

Well it's like this - only do extracurriculars if you have spare time. Don't take time out of your studying to do extracurriculars and think that universities will consider that, because they won't.

I'm also in grade 12 this year and planning to attend either engineering or chartered accountancy at Waterloo. Anyone know if the CA program is strict on the acceptance and what I should be aware of? So far from what I've heard it seems like I'll probably have an easier time applying to computer engineering in comparison to chartered accountancy.

Depends which CA program you want to get into...

For the math/ca and biotech/ca programs, marks play a major role. Of course, extracurriculars probably help. Not 100% sure, but supplementary is worth a maximum of 5% bonus in all programs. For biotech, at least, I know that you WILL need the average stated on electronicinfo.ca (I have a friend with decent ec's but a percent shy of the required mark)

AFM is a bit different. You need to achieve a reasonable mark in order to be invited to write the AFMAA. If you bomb that, it doesn't matter what your mark was.

Some AFMAA writers that I have talked to wrote some pretty stupid things on the assignment and were, obviously, rejected. A sample question would be along the lines of...

"Describe a recent situation where you has a disagreement with one of your peers. How did you resolve the situation?"

The correct answer is NOT, "I told him to shut up because my way was better!" :|

[nkwu]

AFM = public right?


It doesn't matter what school, what program

:lol: Your acceptance is based on those six marks primarily. But some Universities give a +/- on the average depending on which school students come from (rightfully so, my school underprepared me). And to get an early acceptance, you'l need to have stellar first half/semester grade 12 marks and equally stellar grade 11 marks.

off topic question: is the change in math for high school students happenign this year? (the decline continues..)

[skuric]

AFM = public right?



:lol: Your acceptance is based on those six marks primarily. But some Universities give a +/- on the average depending on which school students come from (rightfully so, my school underprepared me). And to get an early acceptance, you'l need to have stellar first half/semester grade 12 marks and equally stellar grade 11 marks.

off topic question: is the change in math for high school students happenign this year? (the decline continues..)

I asked an ECE prof (actually, chair of ECE) at UofT earlier this year if they still look at which school students come from (in order to boost your avg slightly or w/e), and he said no, but that they used to do it back when they still had grade 13, and he also said that they would like to start doing it again. I know this doesn't apply to all programs/uni's, but I'm just telling you what I heard from him about engineering at UofT.

Also, yes, the new math curriculum is coming this September. I feel sorry for the incoming grade 12s... there's going to be no more discrete math taught whatsoever in any grade 12 math course. What's worse, is that a few of my friends who did calc or geo again in the summer got totally %$%#*& because they had to do the new grade 11 course in order to do the grade 12 Adv Func course, IN ORDER TO do the grade 12 Calc & Vectors course... sucks balls, they had to do 2 extra courses they didn't need to really...

[Jon Lai]

Depends which CA program you want to get into...

For the math/ca and biotech/ca programs, marks play a major role. Of course, extracurriculars probably help. Not 100% sure, but supplementary is worth a maximum of 5% bonus in all programs. For biotech, at least, I know that you WILL need the average stated on electronicinfo.ca (I have a friend with decent ec's but a percent shy of the required mark)

AFM is a bit different. You need to achieve a reasonable mark in order to be invited to write the AFMAA. If you bomb that, it doesn't matter what your mark was.

Some AFMAA writers that I have talked to wrote some pretty stupid things on the assignment and were, obviously, rejected. A sample question would be along the lines of...

"Describe a recent situation where you has a disagreement with one of your peers. How did you resolve the situation?"

The correct answer is NOT, "I told him to shut up because my way was better!" :|

Hmm.. I always though there was a pure CA degree, is there not? Because in the guide book, there is a row that says "Chartered Accountancy" (under Math though), never heard of Biotech and Accountancy together.. how does that work?

Yea, I've heard all about the AFMAA, I believe it shouldn't be too difficult to write down what they want to read. Right now I'm just kind of worried whether or not I should apply to CA and whether or not I'll actually make it.

For the past few years I've wanted to go into Computer Engineering, but with the recent surge in the IT field, I'm also slowly picking up accountancy as an alternative, because it's almost a guaranteed job like pharmaceutical (unfortunately I'm not a bio person - I'm more phy/chem). Unfortunately, it seems like CA won't be easy to get into - according to the guide book Waterloo wants at least a 90 average...

[kt11]

Hmm.. I always though there was a pure CA degree, is there not? Because in the guide book, there is a row that says "Chartered Accountancy" (under Math though), never heard of Biotech and Accountancy together.. how does that work?

Yea, I've heard all about the AFMAA, I believe it shouldn't be too difficult to write down what they want to read. Right now I'm just kind of worried whether or not I should apply to CA and whether or not I'll actually make it.

For the past few years I've wanted to go into Computer Engineering, but with the recent surge in the IT field, I'm also slowly picking up accountancy as an alternative, because it's almost a guaranteed job like pharmaceutical (unfortunately I'm not a bio person - I'm more phy/chem). Unfortunately, it seems like CA won't be easy to get into - according to the guide book Waterloo wants at least a 90 average...

Biotech/CA, I really don't understand the philosophy of the whole program...I can't explain it. But the cut-off is mid-90's.

Btw, Waterloo isn't the be-all-end-all in life :| :lol:

[alv077]

AFM = public right?

Could be either. You would be in public if you apply to Public Accounting, if you apply to the Financial Management stream, you will NOT be able to take CA coop jobs though.


Hmm.. I always though there was a pure CA degree, is there not? Because in the guide book, there is a row that says "Chartered Accountancy" (under Math though), never heard of Biotech and Accountancy together.. how does that work?

Yea, I've heard all about the AFMAA, I believe it shouldn't be too difficult to write down what they want to read. Right now I'm just kind of worried whether or not I should apply to CA and whether or not I'll actually make it.

For the past few years I've wanted to go into Computer Engineering, but with the recent surge in the IT field, I'm also slowly picking up accountancy as an alternative, because it's almost a guaranteed job like pharmaceutical (unfortunately I'm not a bio person - I'm more phy/chem). Unfortunately, it seems like CA won't be easy to get into - according to the guide book Waterloo wants at least a 90 average...

If there is a "pure CA" degree, it would probably be AFM. The one listed under math is just Math/CA. Apparently, biotech/CA would be good for someone who wants to run a hospital. (That is what I was told by someone who applied to the program)

If you do not get into Waterloo, you could always try for other schools... For example, UOIT's admission average for accounting is REALLY low and has all 51 credits covered.


Btw, Waterloo isn't the be-all-end-all in life :| :lol:

Speaking as an asian student, yes it is. :o

[Jon Lai]

If there is a "pure CA" degree, it would probably be AFM. The one listed under math is just Math/CA. Apparently, biotech/CA would be good for someone who wants to run a hospital. (That is what I was told by someone who applied to the program)

Hospital and accounting? Purely for accounting hospitals? :confused:



If you do not get into Waterloo, you could always try for other schools... For example, UOIT's admission average for accounting is REALLY low and has all 51 credits covered.

But.. but.. but.. I want to get into Waterloo :(

[alv077]

Hospital and accounting? Purely for accounting hospitals? :confused:


I'm confused too...

He used hospitals as an example but I guess it would be applicable to things like pharmaceutical companies, research labs, and things of that nature.



But.. but.. but.. I want to get into Waterloo :(

Personally, I would not choose to do math/ca if you want to have a social life. I hear it is rough...

Just go take a bunch of fluff courses that are easy to overachieve in. 90 average shouldn't be too hard with enough of those. Make sure you have at least a high 80 average for 1st semester midterm though - you want to be invited to the AFMAA on the first round. More offers come out then.

[Jon Lai]

Personally, I would not choose to do math/ca if you want to have a social life. I hear it is rough...

Just go take a bunch of fluff courses that are easy to overachieve in. 90 average shouldn't be too hard with enough of those. Make sure you have at least a high 80 average for 1st semester midterm though - you want to be invited to the AFMAA on the first round. More offers come out then.

Well, what courses can you recommend that is NOT rough in university? Engineering, medical.. many tougher courses than CA :P

I do have a couple of those bird courses that you talk about, but I'm in a semestered school so it'll be a trick to see if I can get them to at least distribute them fairly among semesters instead of putting them all in 2nd :( Actually, I'm not exactly worried about not meeting the cutoff, but more worried about the competition - meeting the cutoff means nothing if you're not accepted.

[alv077]

Well, what courses can you recommend that is NOT rough in university? Engineering, medical.. many tougher courses than CA :P

I do have a couple of those bird courses that you talk about, but I'm in a semestered school so it'll be a trick to see if I can get them to at least distribute them fairly among semesters instead of putting them all in 2nd :( Actually, I'm not exactly worried about not meeting the cutoff, but more worried about the competition - meeting the cutoff means nothing if you're not accepted.

Competition should be more or less the same. Once you're in the 90s range, it doesn't really get much harder...

The thing with CA at waterloo is that you need to keep a 75% average in your core courses. Not sure if it is hard or not but I've heard people really stress over it.

Now, combine that pressure with university level math classes... and you're screwed :P That's all I am saying

[maebach]

damnit. mY FIRST SEMESTER:

English
Economics
Advanced functions

Economics and math are low 90s/high 80s, but my english blows. I'll be happy with an 80 in english. I'm gonna try to get into math or finances at waterloo. Does someone know if U/C classes are acceptable? or do I have to submit U course grades. BEcause economics is university/college class.

[justinn]

Just wondering can someone please enlighten me on how early acceptance to universitys work? Do you put in your best 6 marks (including english)? Help!?!>!>

[kt11]

Just wondering can someone please enlighten me on how early acceptance to universitys work? Do you put in your best 6 marks (including english)? Help!?!>!>

Early acceptance is generally before the January 10th deadline. They'll tell you what marks you need to keep your offer valid, some scholarships could also be on the table.


English is always in there, but I know some schools like UW can let you take Writers Craft or something, stick with ENG4U. So when people say Top 6, it's actually Top 5.

[kt11]

damnit. mY FIRST SEMESTER:

English
Economics
Advanced functions

Economics and math are low 90s/high 80s, but my english blows. I'll be happy with an 80 in english. I'm gonna try to get into math or finances at waterloo. Does someone know if U/C classes are acceptable? or do I have to submit U course grades. BEcause economics is university/college class.

That's a fairly easy semester...
U/C are always acceptable, but some schools like Schulich will let you submit no more than 2, or is it 1.

[gzajay]

One of my close friends is entering his 4th year of Biotech/CA....

-The single biggest advantage of the program is that you don't pay the AFM tuition! Biotech/Ca is run by the faculty of science, so you get the science tuition of about 2500 a term vs. AFM of about 5000 a term

-The entrance average is mid 90's and cut off to 10 people from the application pool of about 100 I think...

-He takes a bunch of biology, chemistry and accounting courses with very little room for electives (maybe 2 or 3 over his years)

-The biotech/CA students are very close...since there are only 10. They all support each other and meet up for social events too

-Career-wise you have alot of options!! I have other friends wanting to go to medschool who are in the program, others who want their CA and be accountants and others who are just using the CA has a stepping stone to other careers in business

[Jon Lai]

Competition should be more or less the same. Once you're in the 90s range, it doesn't really get much harder...

The thing with CA at waterloo is that you need to keep a 75% average in your core courses. Not sure if it is hard or not but I've heard people really stress over it.

Now, combine that pressure with university level math classes... and you're screwed :P That's all I am saying

Isn't there a CA course where math courses aren't mandatory?
So even the AFM CA course requires math as mandatory? What kinds of math are these, statistics, or calculus?

Sigh.. maybe I'll be better off keeping to the lower job security and lower demanded Computer Engineering field..

[alv077]

-The biotech/CA students are very close...since there are only 10. They all support each other and meet up for social events too


I hear that most of the accounting students are cliquey and don't often associate with non-accounting people anyways.

That's what a random at you@uw told me, anyways


Isn't there a CA course where math courses aren't mandatory?
So even the AFM CA course requires math as mandatory? What kinds of math are these, statistics, or calculus?

Sigh.. maybe I'll be better off keeping to the lower job security and lower demanded Computer Engineering field..

AFM only needs one math class. I believe it is a stats course in 1B.

I am sure you would have more math courses in engineering than AFM...

[sxz]

The AFM program has two math related courses. That is Math for Accounting (in your first year) and Intro to Stats & Sampling for Accounting (in second year). Aside from those, there isn't really anything mathematically intensive. Engineering is another story. Depending on the engineering program you want to get into you may end up with a ton of math courses (i.e. Software, SysDesign, etc.) I think you would want to go with AFM if you don't like math. :)

[Jon Lai]

The AFM program has two math related courses. That is Math for Accounting (in your first year) and Intro to Stats & Sampling for Accounting (in second year). Aside from those, there isn't really anything mathematically intensive. Engineering is another story. Depending on the engineering program you want to get into you may end up with a ton of math courses (i.e. Software, SysDesign, etc.) I think you would want to go with AFM if you don't like math. :)

It's not that I don't like math, but I'm not very good at it for some reason - always making careless mistakes. I do better in Physics than I do in Math, which always made me wonder.

Anyways, can anyone tell me more about the AFM CA course? I think I'm still going to choose between that and Computer Engineering at UW. It's the two courses I am most interested to go into - I'm just worried mainly that CA is harder to get into (90+ plus isn't there a test I have to write in order to get in?), or the fact that IT jobs in Canada are decreasing every year and being outsourced.

Comments about UW's coop programs in general would also be greatly appreciated :D

[alv077]

Well, apparently, AFMers are really cocky

http://uwaterloo.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2220083256

[Paranoidandroid]

Isn't there a CA course where math courses aren't mandatory?
Not sure what you want to do, but there's always the option of graduating with a non-CA related major and then doing your UFE after graduation.

[sxz]

I should note that if you go into AFM, you graduate with a Bachelor of Accounting and Financial Management. You don't get your CA designation right away. Usually what people in AFM do is go on to take the Master of Accounting (MAcc) program for an additional year (yes, 1 year for a master's) which allows them to bypass a lot of requirements to getting the CA designation. After that you can write the UFE which is the last thing standing between you and adding two letters to the end of your name. ;)

In brief: going into AFM or any program with "Chartered Accountancy" in it does not guarantee you a CA designation. There's much more work ahead if you wish to pursue that career.

[nickia]

Nope, they'd never do that. But, when the first set of marks go in, if you're at a semestered school...they may not send an offer. Why? Because they might only have 3-4 marks, and sub-par Grade 11 marks. But during the 2nd round (I beleive they even have a 3rd round) they will make an acceptance*.

I hear for Schulich, they look at your extra-curriculars first then marks; the cut-off this year was around 91-92%.

no man. Schulich is mostly about marks. I'd say 70% marks 30% extra-curricular.

As long as you have reasonable extra curricular stuffs and meet the cutoff, you will make it.

[Jon Lai]

I should note that if you go into AFM, you graduate with a Bachelor of Accounting and Financial Management. You don't get your CA designation right away. Usually what people in AFM do is go on to take the Master of Accounting (MAcc) program for an additional year (yes, 1 year for a master's) which allows them to bypass a lot of requirements to getting the CA designation. After that you can write the UFE which is the last thing standing between you and adding two letters to the end of your name. ;)

In brief: going into AFM or any program with "Chartered Accountancy" in it does not guarantee you a CA designation. There's much more work ahead if you wish to pursue that career.

But isn't taking a course with "CA" much easier than going the traditional route at Waterloo? I can't recall exactly how, because when I heard about it, I wasn't planning to go into Accountancy, but I remember it was mentioned that taking a CA course at Waterloo will get you your CA designation much quicker than other universities because their co-op program's hours count towards the final CA program or something like that.

[jwei]

okay, all this talk is starting to get me worried. anyone know whether the mac business application cares about extra curricular as well? when you apply, does it ask you to state extra-curricular activities or do they search them up themselves?

also, at the admission requirements link for mcmaster for business...

it says you need the following...
Canadian High School Applicants Admission Requirements
Province : Ontario
Program : Business

Program Requirements

Completion of High School Diploma plus;
Grade 12 U/M requirements - 6 courses in total, including:

•English U(ENG 4U)
•Advanced Functions and Introductory Calculus U
•One of: Geometry & Discrete Mathematics U or Mathematics of Data Management U.

Note: Mathematics of Data Management U is highly recommended


Cut-Off - September 2007 (Subject To Change)
80%

Currently at my highschool, they offer calculus, advanced functions, data management, as 3 separate courses. Does this mean I need these three + ENG4U + 2 bird courses? Or can I only take 2 maths? Thanks alot

EDIT: btw, I think discrete...if it even exists, is encorporated into advanced? No idea... thanks

[JLei2k]

no man. Schulich is mostly about marks. I'd say 70% marks 30% extra-curricular.

As long as you have reasonable extra curricular stuffs and meet the cutoff, you will make it.

The cutoff is 90. You have it you`re in. The only thing you need to do with the extra curricular application is hand it in. The only case where it would come in to play would be if a student with an 89 has stellar extra curriculars they might offer them admission. Other than that meet the cutoff hand in the form (completed obviously lol).

[kt11]

I don't think there was even a form for McMaster (as long as we're not talking Health Sci). I think you probably have to take

Calculus and Vectors (I think that's the Math your school has)
Advanced Functions
Data Management
ENG4U

Now, I have a small feeling that you're reading the wrong information...I'm not sure if you need Data anymore. But take it anyways...for now.

Lastly, for pretty much every program except Health Sci -- Mac just wants you above the cut-off and that's it.

[jwei]

Yeah, I guess I'm stuck with 4 compulsives instead of 3.

I got it from this link.
http://registrar.mcmaster.ca/PHPforms/CANAD.PHP

(the admission requirements)

[Jon Lai]

Yeah, I guess I'm stuck with 4 compulsives instead of 3.

I got it from this link.
http://registrar.mcmaster.ca/PHPforms/CANAD.PHP

(the admission requirements)

"Advanced Functions and Introductory Calculus U" is one course, so you only need 3 compulsives.

[LegiT]

"Advanced Functions and Introductory Calculus U" is one course, so you only need 3 compulsives.

But it's now (in Ontario?) called "Advanced Functions" solely, and "Calculus and Vectors". Two courses and advanced functions is recommended to be taken prior to taking "Calculus and Vectors".

[td0t0]

does anyone here have any idea what I would need to get accepted in journalism at Ryerson or English/other arts courses at UofT?
My marks have generally been in the low 80's and I have been told that you need a 'B' average to get into both universities
Also, I have done very little as far as extra curriculars - are they important 4 Ryerson and UofT?
Also, what do you need to get a scholarship at those schools?
A lot of questions, I know but any help would be appreciated

[Essence89]

does anyone here have any idea what I would need to get accepted in journalism at Ryerson or English/other arts courses at UofT?
My marks have generally been in the low 80's and I have been told that you need a 'B' average to get into both universities
Also, I have done very little as far as extra curriculars - are they important 4 Ryerson and UofT?
Also, what do you need to get a scholarship at those schools?
A lot of questions, I know but any help would be appreciated

low 80s ur fine...dont worry..

extra curriculars are important..depending on what major ur going to..it wont kill u though...

if u want scholarship..better check the university sites to see the mark required and also there lots of scholarships online u should apply urself..

sites such as studentawards.com is good place to start...

[td0t0]

low 80s ur fine...dont worry..

extra curriculars are important..depending on what major ur going to..it wont kill u though...

if u want scholarship..better check the university sites to see the mark required and also there lots of scholarships online u should apply urself..

sites such as studentawards.com is good place to start...

ok Thanks, appreciate the quick reply

[Essence89]

But it's now (in Ontario?) called "Advanced Functions" solely, and "Calculus and Vectors". Two courses and advanced functions is recommended to be taken prior to taking "Calculus and Vectors".

in ontario they just changed the courses this year..since ontarioian are crying how algeo is too hard for them..so they took that course out and added calculus and vectors...so now u have to take both...and data management.

[Essence89]

no man. Schulich is mostly about marks. I'd say 70% marks 30% extra-curricular.

As long as you have reasonable extra curricular stuffs and meet the cutoff, you will make it.

for Schulich u need a 90 for sure...AND after u get the offer...U HAVE TO MAINTAIN UR 90..which sucks so much since u cant screw around after uget ur offer u have to work ur ass off...

BUT..if u want Schulich..takes some easy U courses..and skip the physic chem and bio...then ur life wont be too hard and it will be an easy grd 12

[jwei]

in ontario they just changed the courses this year..since ontarioian are crying how algeo is too hard for them..so they took that course out and added calculus and vectors...so now u have to take both...and data management.

boourns! thanks alot...btw is that studentawards site legit? or will it spam me with ads

[Essence89]

boourns! thanks alot...btw is that studentawards site legit? or will it spam me with ads

is a legit site they only email u if they got new scholarship for u..is not a spam site

[sxz]

But isn't taking a course with "CA" much easier than going the traditional route at Waterloo? I can't recall exactly how, because when I heard about it, I wasn't planning to go into Accountancy, but I remember it was mentioned that taking a CA course at Waterloo will get you your CA designation much quicker than other universities because their co-op program's hours count towards the final CA program or something like that.

Sorry for keeping you waiting. Strictly speaking in terms of how many years it'll take you to get your CA designation, then yes Waterloo is the faster route but that's only if you go from AFM/Math-CA/Biotech-CA -> MAcc and even then you have to take additional courses for Math and Biotech. Thus the ideal route is AFM -> MAcc -> UFE -> CA designation. All this will take roughly 6 years from start to finish (if you can pass the UFE on your first try).

In addition to the required minimum number of hours you have to complete at a CA firm, by going through the MAcc graduate program you also are exempt from other requirements like the school courses and the first exam. I don't remember all the things they allow you to be exempt from but it adds up and could be beneficial if you want a head start.

[Jon Lai]

Sorry for keeping you waiting. Strictly speaking in terms of how many years it'll take you to get your CA designation, then yes Waterloo is the faster route but that's only if you go from AFM/Math-CA/Biotech-CA -> MAcc and even then you have to take additional courses for Math and Biotech. Thus the ideal route is AFM -> MAcc -> UFE -> CA designation. All this will take roughly 6 years from start to finish (if you can pass the UFE on your first try).

In addition to the required minimum number of hours you have to complete at a CA firm, by going through the MAcc graduate program you also are exempt from other requirements like the school courses and the first exam. I don't remember all the things they allow you to be exempt from but it adds up and could be beneficial if you want a head start.

Thanks, I'm probably going to be taking the AFM or Math-CA course then. I assume you'll have to take math courses for the AFM too, right? Any differences between these two?

5-6 years sounds reasonable I guess, considering I should already have 1-2 years worth of work experience put into that.

[sxz]

AFM has only about two MATH courses. The rest are more accounting than anything else.

[nickia]

for Schulich u need a 90 for sure...AND after u get the offer...U HAVE TO MAINTAIN UR 90..which sucks so much since u cant screw around after uget ur offer u have to work ur ass off...

BUT..if u want Schulich..takes some easy U courses..and skip the physic chem and bio...then ur life wont be too hard and it will be an easy grd 12

The strategy is to complete as many courses as possible early on.
I had 5 grade 12 courses done by the 1st semester and only had to take 2 courses for the 2nd semester.

Yep don't take science courses if you are aiming for Schulich, Queen's or Ivey.

[Jon Lai]

AFM has only about two MATH courses. The rest are more accounting than anything else.

That's great. Are the Accounting courses in university more theory oriented?

[Fatman]

I'm planning to take a course in physio therapy. What courses do I need?

I'm taking, English 12, Calculus 12, Math 12, Physics 12, and Biology 12.

Does that meet the requirements? How hard is it to get into?

Thanks a lot. I tried looking but don't seem to be able to find requirements. I plan to go somewhere east like Queens or Western and I heard that you need Calculus to go east...

[jwei]

The strategy is to complete as many courses as possible early on.
I had 5 grade 12 courses done by the 1st semester and only had to take 2 courses for the 2nd semester.

Yep don't take science courses if you are aiming for Schulich, Queen's or Ivey.

anyone know how to get pass the school rule of not allowing students to have 3 spares? (my school has 8 courses per year, i have 4 in the first semester, only need to take 1 in the second). I took summer school to get ahead, hoping I could have 3 spares vs 2, this way i can concentrate more during the year. Any help? (I am considered a part time student w/ 3 spares i believe)

[reflex]

anyone know how to get pass the school rule of not allowing students to have 3 spares? (my school has 8 courses per year, i have 4 in the first semester, only need to take 1 in the second). I took summer school to get ahead, hoping I could have 3 spares vs 2, this way i can concentrate more during the year. Any help? (I am considered a part time student w/ 3 spares i believe)

talk to your guidance department. it's up to their discretion whether or not to give you all the spares. and i believe that you still have a be a "full time high school student" so maybe 3 spares is not allowed. it just depends on the rules of your school board. if you have good marks, they'll likely allow you to have your spares because there's no risk of you failing one of your courses.

[Jon Lai]

anyone know how to get pass the school rule of not allowing students to have 3 spares? (my school has 8 courses per year, i have 4 in the first semester, only need to take 1 in the second). I took summer school to get ahead, hoping I could have 3 spares vs 2, this way i can concentrate more during the year. Any help? (I am considered a part time student w/ 3 spares i believe)

WTF? My school doesn't even give you 2 spares per semester. They say its 8/8/8/6, so you must take 6 courses in grade 12, whether or not you have fast tracked.

BTW, you already know your first semester schedule? If you registered for 5 courses, they should give you a 3+2, not a 4+1.

I suggest you take 6 courses anyhow. You're not going to be focused when you only have 1-2 courses per semester anyways, you'll most likely go hang out in your spare time. Better to take a University bird course or a course you might consider going into so you don't block all your roads.

[jwei]

my school guidance is literally ********. They almost made people drop an exercise science course in order to take biology (making them stay and extra year to reach the admission requirements), now they screwed me over by putting my economic course at the same time as calculus, so i'm forced to take some individuals in society course in place for that. so ya, 4+2 is the way my school set my schedule up

[ronalee]

I am in grade 12 and I would like to study on life/health science next year and hopefully become a doctor in the future. Anyone could suggest from which Canadian university I will most likely get the highest GPA with the same amount of effort?

Thanks in advance!

[kt11]

I am in grade 12 and I would like to study on life/health science next year and hopefully become a doctor in the future. Anyone could suggest from which Canadian university I will most likely get the highest GPA with the same amount of effort?

Thanks in advance!

That's a thread on it's own :lol:

[ben_liu]

I will be entering grade 12, and have an idea or where i will be going into, Business at Ryerson/York or Human Resources Management at Ryerson. I can't seem to find the exact courses i need for the program, so if i only picked their Required courses, which is generally English 4U, and Calculas/Geometry/Data management, and if i maintain a good mid/high 80 with only the few required courses and few other easy courses such as gym/musics would i still be accepted?

[kt11]

I will be entering grade 12, and have an idea or where i will be going into, Business at Ryerson/York or Human Resources Management at Ryerson. I can't seem to find the exact courses i need for the program, so if i only picked their Required courses, which is generally English 4U, and Calculas/Geometry/Data management, and if i maintain a good mid/high 80 with only the few required courses and few other easy courses such as gym/musics would i still be accepted?

You could get into WLU, Mac, Queen's Commerce with that average :lol:
Mid/high 70 is what you need.

[ben_liu]

You could get into WLU, Mac, Queen's Commerce with that average :lol:
Mid/high 70 is what you need.

ahh alright if i get anywhere there, and has completed the required courses, i could take any other courses i want aswell? even if they are piece of cake?

[ktan09]

Could I get into York Business programs with only 2 maths: Advanced Functions and Data Management? I don't have the slots to take Calculus during school.

How does applying to University work? Do you apply to a program or the university itself? What if they don't accept you? Do you offer you another program you can join etc. Can someone explain the whole process clearly? Thank You.

[MikeyPyro]

Could I get into York Business programs with only 2 maths: Advanced Functions and Data Management? I don't have the slots to take Calculus during school.

How does applying to University work? Do you apply to a program or the university itself? What if they don't accept you? Do you offer you another program you can join etc. Can someone explain the whole process clearly? Thank You.

I only took Data considering calculus isn't really a prerequisite for a lot of business programs at York. And I'm going to my first year of university next week so all that grade 12 jazz is still fresh in my mind.

First and foremost let me tell you that you should not worry about the application process and whatnot because your school will outline all of it for you through assemblies or whatever it is you guys have. Basically you go onto a website and pick the program you want at the school you want. Then the school will receive your first semester mid term marks and your final second semester marks to base the decision off of (for most schools/programs). If you don't qualify for the program you wanted then the university will more than likely offer you alternatives which you could accept, and then later switch into the original program you wanted. Keep in mind that all your university applications should be in before midterm I believe, I don't remember that part, once again your school will tell you.

It's a fairly simple process. Website > pick schools and programs > play the waiting game > then when they accept you just pick it, confirm it, and you're in


Also applying for scholarships not offered by the actual school but by a 3rd party will be done in a different process which yet again your school will tell you.

[LuuC]

A few people have mentioned the possiblilty of universities checking out Grade 11 marks for early acceptance...

Do they look at each term or just the final term?

Anddd...is out of province worth it? The living expense, the tuition, living away from home...etc.

[pacman99]

^back in 2004 it was final avg of grade 11 + midterm of grade 12 for early acceptance.
I'm not sure about living expenses etc since I commute but wouldn't it be similar to what it is here? The only difference might be higher tuition. I'm sure someone else can elaborate on that. Either way, unless there's a programme out of province that you REALLY want to take and can't get locally, I wouldn't bother...but that's just me.

[Adage]

It's all fresh in my mind since I graduated this year.

Basically, the universities will look at your grade 11 marks, and your grade 12 marks from semester 1 and your mid-term semester 2 marks.

You submit your university choices in January. From that point to when your Semester 2 mid-term marks go in, that's considered 'early acceptance'. The 'early acceptances' are based on your grade 12 marks from first semester, AND, your grade 11 marks. In some cases, if you have not taken a Grade 12 course, (let's say math) in first semester, then the universities will most likely take your Grade 11 math mark, and use it in place of your grade 12 mark as some sort of indication of your skill.

Generally, the tougher programs to get into don't usually send out early acceptances, however, if you have top marks, you never know. From what I found, a lot of the schools which have either smaller number of students or enrollments, will usually send out early acceptances to everyone.

Like UOIT, Carleton, and McMaster for example. Me and my friends all got accepted to these schools in January/February. Rather early indeed. While bigger schools usually hold off their early acceptances to April... closer to when your semester 2 mid term marks are submitted. This is because they have a huge number of people applying, so it takes them longer I guess. UofT and Waterloo sent me their early acceptances like a week before midterm marks were submitted.

[masta_mindz]

for regular acceptance (don't really care for early acceptance), do grade 11 marks count? if so, i'm screwed.

[CanadaBoy]

for regular acceptance (don't really care for early acceptance), do grade 11 marks count? if so, i'm screwed.

GULP same goes for me

[pacman99]

for regular acceptance (don't really care for early acceptance), do grade 11 marks count? if so, i'm screwed.


GULP same goes for me

no, not at all.
Don't worry, you guys will get in somewhere. Getting in is the easy part ;)

[Adage]

no, not at all.
Don't worry, you guys will get in somewhere. Getting in is the easy part ;)

lol yeah, forgot to mention. Yeah, grade 11 marks shouldn't be bad, but grade 12 marks are where it REALLY counts.

[jwei]

lets say, grade 11 you did well in english math...horrible in sciences.

now, grade 12 comes, you decide you are applying to a business related course... does it matter if you did horrible in physics/chemistry?

or do they only check the courses related to them?

*quadruple gulp*

also, do they only check semester 2 grade 11? or both? thanks

[stratux]

honestly they dont look at grade 11 marks..its all about grade 12...if u want to apply to business then they won't look at your science courses..just the prerequisites

[ktan09]

I only took Data considering calculus isn't really a prerequisite for a lot of business programs at York. And I'm going to my first year of university next week so all that grade 12 jazz is still fresh in my mind.

First and foremost let me tell you that you should not worry about the application process and whatnot because your school will outline all of it for you through assemblies or whatever it is you guys have. Basically you go onto a website and pick the program you want at the school you want. Then the school will receive your first semester mid term marks and your final second semester marks to base the decision off of (for most schools/programs). If you don't qualify for the program you wanted then the university will more than likely offer you alternatives which you could accept, and then later switch into the original program you wanted. Keep in mind that all your university applications should be in before midterm I believe, I don't remember that part, once again your school will tell you.

It's a fairly simple process. Website > pick schools and programs > play the waiting game > then when they accept you just pick it, confirm it, and you're in


Also applying for scholarships not offered by the actual school but by a 3rd party will be done in a different process which yet again your school will tell you.

They also changed the Grade 12 Math curriculum this year so I don't know whats going on. Its a little different from last year.

[CanadaBoy]

Any more general tips for people starting grade 12 tomorrow!

[kt11]

Any more general tips for people starting grade 12 tomorrow!

It'll be a half-day tommorow, at some schools. Just make sure you have the right courses for the program, if not -- get to guidance and SWITCH. Sign up for clubs, inquire about them if you're program requires you to.

[CanadaBoy]

It'll be a half-day tommorow, at some schools. Just make sure you have the right courses for the program, if not -- get to guidance and SWITCH. Sign up for clubs, inquire about them if you're program requires you to.

Hey thanks I am sure its a full day tommorow but about the clubs..

I dont know wat program I wnat to go into..

[kt11]

Hey thanks I am sure its a full day tommorow but about the clubs..

I dont know wat program I wnat to go into..

Make sure you have classes that'll allow maximum flexibility. Best to have 2 sciences (Chem + Bio or Phys (Bio/Phys depending on whether you want to do Engineering or not). For math, have the two calculus classes + data for business.

[CanadaBoy]

Make sure you have classes that'll allow maximum flexibility. Best to have 2 sciences (Chem + Bio or Phys (Bio/Phys depending on whether you want to do Engineering or not). For math, have the two calculus classes + data for business.

I have:

English
Chemistry
Biology
Physics
Advanced Functions
Calculus and Vectors

:|

[kt11]

I have:

English
Chemistry
Biology
Physics
Advanced Functions
Calculus and Vectors

:|

Yep, that's standard to all Science (Life, Engineering and General Science) programs. Business programs too, but with that workload and courses it'll be tougher to get into the top-notch schools.

[CanadaBoy]

Yep, that's standard to all Science (Life, Engineering and General Science) programs. Business programs too, but with that workload and courses it'll be tougher to get into the top-notch schools.

Gulp? Care to emphasize :confused:

[kt11]

Gulp? Care to emphasize :confused:

For the top-notch business schools -- you need an 87+ average. At times, a 90% average isn't safe. Taking Chem, Physics and Biology is very hard. A mark anywhere in the 80's for those classes is good, most Universities look for that. But business schools would reject you most likely. But schools such as Wilfred Laurier and University of Toronto would accept that. Queen's, Ivey and Schulich won't.

[CanadaBoy]

For the top-notch business schools -- you need an 87+ average. At times, a 90% average isn't safe. Taking Chem, Physics and Biology is very hard. A mark anywhere in the 80's for those classes is good, most Universities look for that. But business schools would reject you most likely. But schools such as Wilfred Laurier and University of Toronto would accept that. Queen's, Ivey and Schulich won't.

Thanks, thats good to hear because I am not going into business.

I am hoping to go somewhere into the science area... maybe with something math oriented.

I need some ideas for where I should/can go into...

[kt11]

Thanks, thats good to hear because I am not going into business.

I am hoping to go somewhere into the science area... maybe with something math oriented.

I need some ideas for where I should/can go into...

Engineering comes to mind. There's Science and Business at Waterloo, but I don't know much about it. My suggestion from now to November/December...is read, read, read. Read the Careers forum on RFD, it's good :cheesygri

[CanadaBoy]

Engineering comes to mind. There's Science and Business at Waterloo, but I don't know much about it. My suggestion from now to November/December...is read, read, read. Read the Careers forum on RFD, it's good :cheesygri

I was wondering where I would post questions about my future career when this forum is closed :)

Heck I think ill start in October

For those that know about OSAP...

I have no education money saved... And I am planning to go through the whole uni on it.

I have like 5-7 grand of my own earned money but I dont know if I should buy a car, but it towards education, or but it towards spending money in Uni
(I dont know if ill need a job in uni..)

[ben_liu]

have fun to everyone that has school tomorrow :)

[td0t0]

i start school at 1 tomorrow
:(

[ben_liu]

Here is the story, i took Functions and Relations last year (Grade 11), which is a M course. This year, i am taking Data Management. For the program i want to go in requires...

Program Prerequisites
Calculus and Vectors (MCV4U), English 4U, Advanced Functions or Mathematics of Data Management.

Does it mean, i NEED calculus and Vectors (MCV4U), English 4U, and AN OPTION of Advanced Functions or Data Management?

[antime1]

Here is the story, i took Functions and Relations last year (Grade 11), which is a M course. This year, i am taking Data Management. For the program i want to go in requires...

Program Prerequisites
Calculus and Vectors (MCV4U), English 4U, Advanced Functions or Mathematics of Data Management.

Does it mean, i NEED calculus and Vectors (MCV4U), English 4U, and AN OPTION of Advanced Functions or Data Management?

yeap. and did the tdsb kill the algeo course? i loved euclidean (spell check?) geometry and proofs.

[sPiKyAZN]

Here is the story, i took Functions and Relations last year (Grade 11), which is a M course. This year, i am taking Data Management. For the program i want to go in requires...

Program Prerequisites
Calculus and Vectors (MCV4U), English 4U, Advanced Functions or Mathematics of Data Management.

Does it mean, i NEED calculus and Vectors (MCV4U), English 4U, and AN OPTION of Advanced Functions or Data Management?

Well you really can't just take calculus and vectors...you need to be taking mhf4u as well.

I sent an email to queens a while back...maybe this'll be useful to others confused about the new math:


Thank you for your questions.

Yes, if you take MCV 4U and MHF 4U in Grade 12, MHF 4U can count as the
"additional 4U course in mathematics".

Additional information regarding the admission requirements and how we will
treat combinations of the old and new Ontario math curriculum in the 2007 -
2008 admission year can be found at www.queensu.ca/admission/ontariomath

I hope you find the above information useful and please contact me at your
convenience should you have additional questions.

Have a great day,


Bryan Sippel
Senior Admission Coordinator - Ontario

Admission Services
Gordon Hall, 74 Union St.
Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario Canada K7L 3N6
Ph (613) 533-6000 ext. 75499
Fax (613) 533-6810
Bryan.Sippel@queensu.ca
www.queensu.ca/admission


I do have a question though...i wonder if anyone here can give me a good reason not to drop gr12 data? lol I already have the two maths so its not like I have any requirements to fill...and I will still have 5 U/2 M courses. I don't even have a spare right now which sucks.

[ben_liu]

Well you really can't just take calculus and vectors...you need to be taking mhf4u as well.

I sent an email to queens a while back...maybe this'll be useful to others confused about the new math:



I do have a question though...i wonder if anyone here can give me a good reason not to drop gr12 data? lol I already have the two maths so its not like I have any requirements to fill...and I will still have 5 U/2 M courses. I don't even have a spare right now which sucks.

ah, thanks for that.

But i still need a way to get into Advanced Functions for this semester and Calculus for next. If i can do that, than i will be set to go. Maybe i could talk to my grade 11 Functions teacher and see if he can recommend me through guidance so i can take the Advanced function. My mark was 88%... So i hope i could slip through some how!

[gchristy]

don't drop data management. I honestly found grade 11 classes harder than data. You can be an idiot and still get an easy 90% in data, and it looks good to have an extra math.

[Martinga]

I have:

English
Chemistry
Biology
Physics
Advanced Functions
Calculus and Vectors

:|

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU :twisted:

[Jon Lai]

don't drop data management. I honestly found grade 11 classes harder than data. You can be an idiot and still get an easy 90% in data, and it looks good to have an extra math.

+1

[sPiKyAZN]

don't drop data management. I honestly found grade 11 classes harder than data. You can be an idiot and still get an easy 90% in data, and it looks good to have an extra math.

I don't think universities care which courses I take unless its a requirement right? I'll still have 5 U and 2 M courses.

I just want to avoid taking any more math than I absolutely must...it's torture trying to stay awake in class. Seriously, math is the subject i hate most. On top of that I kinda want a spare; it could help me with my other classes. On top of that my friend at UWO told me he doesn't even take data in first year! Is this the same in other unis?

[CanadaBoy]

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU :twisted:

yep :(

[Dark-Colonel]

Well the Univ fair was quite useful for me. How about you guys?

[td0t0]

yeah i thought the university fair was pretty good, ive narrowed it down to uoft or york but im definitely gonna do an extra year of H.S. cuz I'm not sure what I want to do and 10 grand + is a lot of money

[Fatman]

couldn't find a queens thread...


applying for commerce at queens.
How hard is it to get into?

Should I choose a backup 2nd option Arts program and then transfer later? Can it be any program?

I just want to make sure that I have all the subjects I need. I am in grade 12


bio 12
english 12
math 12
physics 12
calc 12
socials 11
Spanish 11

do I satisfy the requirements?

Thanks

[kt11]

couldn't find a queens thread...


applying for commerce at queens.
How hard is it to get into?

Should I choose a backup 2nd option Arts program and then transfer later? Can it be any program?

I just want to make sure that I have all the subjects I need. I am in grade 12


bio 12
english 12
math 12
physics 12
calc 12
socials 11
Spanish 11

do I satisfy the requirements?

Thanks

If you can pull 90's in Physics and Biology, you're good. For physics, an 85+ is a very respectable mark, depending on your school. The only downside is that Queen's has a 91.5% cut-off this year (well for ON students)...BC is probably more or less the same. If you're certain you can get those type of marks in Physics and Biology, all the power to you, but I just want to make you have that in mind/

[Fatman]

91.5....lol not going to happen...lol. I'm guessing this is for Bcom?

Can I take another course and transfer in?

[NiftyScent]

I'm applying this year for University and I'm starting to get freaked out.

My average is 90%+ but I absolutely have no extra curriculars and starting to work on my community hours.

Having interest in schools such as Schulich and Queens Commerce, I heard these schools look for students who have a lot of "spirit" and "leadership" (I've also been looking at application forms).

I plan on getting into intramural sports this year, accomplishing 60-80 hours of community service (tutoring little kids) and hopefully joining a club of interest at school before May.

Is it too late? Applications are due soon!

[Dark-Colonel]

If you can pull 90's in Physics and Biology, you're good. For physics, an 85+ is a very respectable mark, depending on your school. The only downside is that Queen's has a 91.5% cut-off this year (well for ON students)...BC is probably more or less the same. If you're certain you can get those type of marks in Physics and Biology, all the power to you, but I just want to make you have that in mind/

Um 91.5 is depending on what program. You can still get into other programs that require a minimum of 75.

PS. You need 6 Univ level courses, you've only posted 5 with 2 11U courses. You need at least 6.

[Leafs_sundin]

Does anyone know the cut-off last year for Life Sciences @ U OF T St George?

Thanks.

[Fatman]

Um 91.5 is depending on what program. You can still get into other programs that require a minimum of 75.

PS. You need 6 Univ level courses, you've only posted 5 with 2 11U courses. You need at least 6.

6? The queens website for commerce said 4 academic courses at the grade 12 level

[alv077]

Does anyone know the cut-off last year for Life Sciences @ U OF T St George?

Thanks.

electronicinfo.ca

not very hard to get in UofT lifesci though.

[syn3sto]

does anyone know what the biggest "canadian universities" forum is?

[NiftyScent]

I'm applying this year for University and I'm starting to get freaked out.

My average is 90%+ but I absolutely have no extra curriculars and starting to work on my community hours.

Having interest in schools such as Schulich and Queens Commerce, I heard these schools look for students who have a lot of "spirit" and "leadership" (I've also been looking at application forms).

I plan on getting into intramural sports this year, accomplishing 60-80 hours of community service (tutoring little kids) and hopefully joining a club of interest at school before May.

Is it too late? Applications are due soon!
Question bump!

[kt11]

electronicinfo.ca

not very hard to get in UofT lifesci though.

UTM is pretty easy, my friend had like a 60 in Calculus. UTSG could be much harder because of the college system, something about Trinity being the shiite.

[Dark-Colonel]

6? The queens website for commerce said 4 academic courses at the grade 12 level

I have never heard of that.

It's a Ontario Academic Prerequisite requirement to have 6 Grade 12 courses completed (otherwise you are not eligible for University), there is not a single University that only needs 4 12 courses. Perhaps you are referring to 4U level courses (Grade 12 University Level Preparation course).

A lot of programs accept a mix of U, and M mixes.

I.E. Every Univ requires you to have a 12U lvl English, but the other requirements may be different. Lets say for Computer Science they want you to have English4U, Function4U, Calculus & Vectors 4U, and either Chem or Physics 4U. Which means that you have 2 other choices, those two choices can be 12M courses which is a University & College mix.

But its best to have 6U courses.

[blizzah]

I have never heard of that.

It's a Ontario Academic Prerequisite requirement to have 6 Grade 12 courses completed (otherwise you are not eligible for University), there is not a single University that only needs 4 12 courses. Perhaps you are referring to 4U level courses (Grade 12 University Level Preparation course).

A lot of programs accept a mix of U, and M mixes.

I.E. Every Univ requires you to have a 12U lvl English, but the other requirements may be different. Lets say for Computer Science they want you to have English4U, Function4U, Calculus & Vectors 4U, and either Chem or Physics 4U. Which means that you have 2 other choices, those two choices can be 12M courses which is a University & College mix.

But its best to have 6U courses.

That's true, often times, a program (often one that is difficult to be accepted to or with high cutoffs) will restrict the amount of M courses you can send in to 1 or 2, but all programs will require 6 U/M courses.

[NiftyScent]

Will universities look down on you if you use 4U and 2M for your final average?

I'm deciding whether I should pick up another course (easy business M course) next semester instead of a spare. It will be a easy average booster. I currently have 5U and 1M courses for the school year.

I'm looking into getting into Queen's commerce (87%+, 2M max). My current courses are:

English (U)
Advanced Functions (U)
Calculus (U)
Biology (U)
Chemistry (U)
Guitar (M)
Spare
Spare

[masta_mindz]

Does anyone know if any universities "discriminate" against students applying with one of their top 6 being a 12U course done in private school? The private school is OSSD accredited, obviously. If so, which universities? Thanks a ton to anyone who can answer.

[VorteC]

Hmmm... I think I'm going for civil engineering.. problem is, I'm expecting an average of 84-85.. how screwed am I?

[Dark-Colonel]

Niftyscent:

No they won't, as long as you have completed the courses required at the level they want its good enough. If they only want 3 specific 4U courses then the other 3 can be anything but they must be at least U or M, not C.

masta_mindz:

No there is no such thing as discrimination against the HS you graduated from. People assume that but its not true, the only thing that affects you is the average grade of the school.

I.E, if you come from a school that is well known to have students with High graduating marks, then your average will be affected. Likewise if your marks are high but your schools are low.

Lets say your 6 4U courses average out to like 76.4, but your school has a 84.6% average of grade 12s graduating. This is actually good because your mark gets rounded up a bit (not sure how much, but it could be somewhat significant). This is not a rumor or a myth, this is true. Just ask talk to any University's councilors who do the acceptance and etc. But the impact on you isn't that high, so don't think that if you graduate with a 72% average, but your school has 90% your mark will magically bump up to 80%, from what I've been told it can affect you anywhere from 0.01 to 4% max.

VortecC:

I wouldn't say screwed, if you aren't going for co-op than you'll probably be a late acceptance. But because a lot of people go for co-op you might have a good chance for just regular course.

It also depends what University, from what I know Waterloo and/or McMaster are the toughest ones. I'm not sure though so don't take my word on it.

[masta_mindz]

masta_mindz:

No there is no such thing as discrimination against the HS you graduated from. People assume that but its not true, the only thing that affects you is the average grade of the school.

I.E, if you come from a school that is well known to have students with High graduating marks, then your average will be affected. Likewise if your marks are high but your schools are low.

Lets say your 6 4U courses average out to like 76.4, but your school has a 84.6% average of grade 12s graduating. This is actually good because your mark gets rounded up a bit (not sure how much, but it could be somewhat significant). This is not a rumor or a myth, this is true. Just ask talk to any University's councilors who do the acceptance and etc. But the impact on you isn't that high, so don't think that if you graduate with a 72% average, but your school has 90% your mark will magically bump up to 80%, from what I've been told it can affect you anywhere from 0.01 to 4% max.



i appreciate the response dark_colonel, however i wasn't clear enough. i'm in a regular public high school taking 3 grade 12 courses this semester and 3 next semester, but i'm considering doing one extra 4U course in private school to boost my marks as people tell me private school courses are easy as pie. however i have also heard that some universities will ask why you took the course in private school or something like that.

[alv077]

If you mean during the night-time/summer, then yes, they will ask you. Furthermore, in SOME programs, they take off marks for night/summer school.

[masta_mindz]

If you mean during the night-time/summer, then yes, they will ask you. Furthermore, in SOME programs, they take off marks for night/summer school.

well yes it's a night-time course (day classes on weekends) at a school you have to pay for and it will be done concurrently with my courses in regular school.

[VorteC]

Niftyscent:

No they won't, as long as you have completed the courses required at the level they want its good enough. If they only want 3 specific 4U courses then the other 3 can be anything but they must be at least U or M, not C.

masta_mindz:

No there is no such thing as discrimination against the HS you graduated from. People assume that but its not true, the only thing that affects you is the average grade of the school.

I.E, if you come from a school that is well known to have students with High graduating marks, then your average will be affected. Likewise if your marks are high but your schools are low.

Lets say your 6 4U courses average out to like 76.4, but your school has a 84.6% average of grade 12s graduating. This is actually good because your mark gets rounded up a bit (not sure how much, but it could be somewhat significant). This is not a rumor or a myth, this is true. Just ask talk to any University's councilors who do the acceptance and etc. But the impact on you isn't that high, so don't think that if you graduate with a 72% average, but your school has 90% your mark will magically bump up to 80%, from what I've been told it can affect you anywhere from 0.01 to 4% max.

VortecC:

I wouldn't say screwed, if you aren't going for co-op than you'll probably be a late acceptance. But because a lot of people go for co-op you might have a good chance for just regular course.

It also depends what University, from what I know Waterloo and/or McMaster are the toughest ones. I'm not sure though so don't take my word on it.

I don't think I want to goto Waterloo anyways, I'm actually trying to goto UBC or UT.

[Dark-Colonel]

well yes it's a night-time course (day classes on weekends) at a school you have to pay for and it will be done concurrently with my courses in regular school.

This is incorrect, I spoke to my guidance counselor today and he said:

" Day school, night school, virtual schooling is all the same because it's all done by the ministry of education and your mark entry is a 4U1 and they all enter it the same ".

For example, if you take English from Day School, you get a ENG-4U1 credit, you take it Night School or Virtually you still get a ENG-4U1 credit, even if you take summer school (FULL MONTH) you will get a ENG-4U1 mark. There is no such thing as a . . . . I don't know ENG-4S1 (S for summer, or V for virtual).

However, take a repeat summer school courses (35 - 49, which isn't even offered from Grd 12 anymore) then you'd get a ENG-3UR mark which means repeat.

To furthermore touch on the Private School matter, as long at the School is approved by the Ministry of Education Ontario there will be no problems for your application. If you don't take my word for it talk to your counselor. He/She will tell you exactly the same because many private schools are approved, but then there are also some that aren't. Make sure the one your going to is.

I'm actually in a similar boat as you, I already graduated June 07 but I am repeating a semester for the new Advanced Functions (Calculus was too hard so I decided to come back and just do Advanced functions) but I actually dropped that course today because I was only getting a 55%. I was just dumb and didn't put effort into it and my teacher told me the course is actually getting harder each unit and in order for me to get a 75% (which is what I need) I'd have to get 85%+ from now on until the exam. So I'll actually be doing another semester but it will only be one course. I was looking at night school but I will probably do private school. If a University does ask me why, I'd just give them the best and most reasonable answer: because private schools have much smaller classes (most 4 - 10 students), there is a lot more hands on learning with the teacher which better suited me for my weak skill in math. What could they say to that?

VorteC:

Well again it depends, are you going for co-op?

[masta_mindz]

This is incorrect, I spoke to my guidance counselor today and he said:

" Day school, night school, virtual schooling is all the same because it's all done by the ministry of education and your mark entry is a 4U1 and they all enter it the same ".

For example, if you take English from Day School, you get a ENG-4U1 credit, you take it Night School or Virtually you still get a ENG-4U1 credit, even if you take summer school (FULL MONTH) you will get a ENG-4U1 mark. There is no such thing as a . . . . I don't know ENG-4S1 (S for summer, or V for virtual).

However, take a repeat summer school courses (35 - 49, which isn't even offered from Grd 12 anymore) then you'd get a ENG-3UR mark which means repeat.

To furthermore touch on the Private School matter, as long at the School is approved by the Ministry of Education Ontario there will be no problems for your application. If you don't take my word for it talk to your counselor. He/She will tell you exactly the same because many private schools are approved, but then there are also some that aren't. Make sure the one your going to is.

I'm actually in a similar boat as you, I already graduated June 07 but I am repeating a semester for the new Advanced Functions (Calculus was too hard so I decided to come back and just do Advanced functions) but I actually dropped that course today because I was only getting a 55%. I was just dumb and didn't put effort into it and my teacher told me the course is actually getting harder each unit and in order for me to get a 75% (which is what I need) I'd have to get 85%+ from now on until the exam. So I'll actually be doing another semester but it will only be one course. I was looking at night school but I will probably do private school. If a University does ask me why, I'd just give them the best and most reasonable answer: because private schools have much smaller classes (most 4 - 10 students), there is a lot more hands on learning with the teacher which better suited me for my weak skill in math. What could they say to that?

VorteC:

Well again it depends, are you going for co-op?

sweet dude, thanks a ton for the in-depth answer. i'm sure they're an approved school. i'm in the process of just checking with a couple of my target universities and so far so good.

[blizzah]

well yes it's a night-time course (day classes on weekends) at a school you have to pay for and it will be done concurrently with my courses in regular school.

Some schools such as McMaster or Lakehead say they do not differentiate between classes taken a second time or whether it was virtual school/ night school etc, while others such as U of T or Queens will probably let you go with one class but will be suspicious if you have say 4 regular credits average 85 and two private school credits in like English and Chem average 98.

[Dark-Colonel]

sweet dude, thanks a ton for the in-depth answer. i'm sure they're an approved school. i'm in the process of just checking with a couple of my target universities and so far so good.

you can actually check here:

http://199.71.28.110/scripts/search.asp

If the private school is on that list than its good.

[Fatman]

I have never heard of that.

It's a Ontario Academic Prerequisite requirement to have 6 Grade 12 courses completed (otherwise you are not eligible for University), there is not a single University that only needs 4 12 courses. Perhaps you are referring to 4U level courses (Grade 12 University Level Preparation course).

A lot of programs accept a mix of U, and M mixes.

I.E. Every Univ requires you to have a 12U lvl English, but the other requirements may be different. Lets say for Computer Science they want you to have English4U, Function4U, Calculus & Vectors 4U, and either Chem or Physics 4U. Which means that you have 2 other choices, those two choices can be 12M courses which is a University & College mix.

But its best to have 6U courses.

Well this is my whole schedule.

Calculus 12
jazz band 12
Spare
Biology 12
Physics 12
Math 12
English 12
Religion 12 (go to a catholic school)

if I don't have enough courses...i'm screwed...

also...I got the 4 course thing from the Western site

""Four academic courses numbered 12 including English Language Arts or English 12.

Note: Applicants are required to write the provincial exam for all grade 12 courses in which an exam is available. "

[Dark-Colonel]

Well this is my whole schedule.

Calculus 12
jazz band 12
Spare
Biology 12
Physics 12
Math 12
English 12
Religion 12 (go to a catholic school)

if I don't have enough courses...i'm screwed...

also...I got the 4 course thing from the Western site

""Four academic courses numbered 12 including English Language Arts or English 12.

Note: Applicants are required to write the provincial exam for all grade 12 courses in which an exam is available. "

http://www.welcome.uwo.ca/preview/admissions/ontario.html

* Six Grade 12 U and/or M level courses.

* English ENG4U.

* Required prerequisites for your program as specified by Western.

[AirCarnivore]

Quick question-

Would I be able to get into Ryerson business or UT commerce with a high 70s average in these courses?

Advanced Functions
Calculus and Vectors
English
Biotechnology
Physics
Chemistry
Gym

[perplexed_one]

Quick question-

Would I be able to get into Ryerson business or UT commerce with a high 70s average in these courses?

Advanced Functions
Calculus and Vectors
English
Biotechnology
Physics
Chemistry
Gym

first of all, gym is not an U course, ie academic university prep course. unless you mean exercise science (grade 12 kinesiology). is Biotechnology a U course? if it isn't you need to find one more.

i think you'd be able to get into Ryerson and UTM commerce.

UTSG commerce is highly doubtful with those marks. their bar is low 80s and even then you're up against alot of applicants. (http://www.utoronto.ca/commerce/hs.htm).

IMO you needn't have to take so many hard courses (physics, chem), unless you are thinking of going into a science program. all you need for commerce is U english, two U math courses, and 3 other miscellaneous U courses (like history or philosophy, which are easy as hell). that of course raises your overall avg.

check this out: http://www.electronicinfo.ca/en/degree.php

do some due diligence, look up the uni website, talk to high school and uni counselors

[Hoodwink]

Quick question-

Would I be able to get into Ryerson business or UT commerce with a high 70s average in these courses?

Advanced Functions
Calculus and Vectors
English
Biotechnology
Physics
Chemistry
Gym
You'd probably get into Ryerson but forget about UTSG, UTM, or UTSC Commerce. 83 is needed for UTM and even higher for the other two.

[AirCarnivore]

Yes Biotech is a U course, and the reason for taking the science courses is because I originally wanted to go into engineering, but am now having second thoughts. After visiting U of T campus on friday, and talking to some more people, I'll make a decision for sure, thanks.

[justinn]

Anyone thinking of applying early? Right now im sitting at a 93.?? with a 93 in english. I want to get into the Mac health science program or the UofTSG lfe science, should i be applying soon? Thanks

[rey1867]

Anyone thinking of applying early? Right now im sitting at a 93.?? with a 93 in english. I want to get into the Mac health science program or the UofTSG lfe science, should i be applying soon? Thanks

apply early... you get the documents early and have more time to review.

plus there's no point in sitting pondering whether you should apply or not

[Dark-Colonel]

Did you guys get your Pin #s yet? A bunch of my friends from other schools already have theirs . . .

[AirCarnivore]

^ Not yet, but they should be coming this week.

[LuuC]

Did you guys get your Pin #s yet? A bunch of my friends from other schools already have theirs . . .

I got mine two days ago.

[Dark-Colonel]

I got mine two days ago.

haven't received mine yet :mad: :evil:

[masta_mindz]

me neither, pretty crappy of them to give us only 1 month.

[blizzah]

Did you guys get your Pin #s yet? A bunch of my friends from other schools already have theirs . . .

Got it last week.

[maebach]

got mine last week as well. im not sure when Im gonna apply.

[Dark-Colonel]

got mine last week as well. im not sure when Im gonna apply.

Got mine today, I'll probably apply this weekend or the next.

I'm gonna make visits for local universities (York, UofT, and Ryerson).

It's best to go with somebody you know that goes to those schools (luckily I do) on random days. I'm just assuming that on tour days they make the school look nice so its best to catch them when they're off guard :D

[maebach]

Got mine today, I'll probably apply this weekend or the next.

I'm gonna make visits for local universities (York, UofT, and Ryerson).

It's best to go with somebody you know that goes to those schools (luckily I do) on random days. I'm just assuming that on tour days they make the school look nice so its best to catch them when they're off guard :D

good idea, lol.

[Essence89]

Best advice for grade 12s....learn as much as u can in grade 12 cause u have the time...if u dont u will regret like me this year....shouldnt have wasted that much time in grade 12....


getting into university is not hard...surviving in it and adapting its environment is the hardest..

most of u wont believe me...i understand i didnt believe it last year...but u guys will learn it the hard way next year.

ESPECIALLY IF UR PLANNING TO GO ENGINEERING....STAY AWAY!!

[ktan09]

Just got my pin. But my history teacher gave me a 65 on my essay :mad: AND I GOT IT ASSESSED 3 TIMES AND HE SAID IT WAS GOOD!

Pissed off... Don't want to goto school anymore

[xtcnrice]

Does anyone know what the cut off mark is for the ECE program at U of T? And if possible, how many electives does one usually take per year? (reading through a few pages i've read that a biotech/CA student at UW only had 2-3 within 4 years!) I want to really get into that program but at the same time enjoy myself at university (like all of us would like to). I'm currently in Grade 12, and my average stands as 87% right now... hopefully to go up. Will I be rejected from the ECE program? Should I apply for TrackOne instead or is that even harder (i heard that there's less spots in that program)? Thanks to anyone who can reply to this... and the discussion in this thread really answered a lot of my other questions.

[Dark-Colonel]

You can check their website?

[xtcnrice]

well, i mean an exact number for cut off %ages, because i've talked to this person presenting a seminar on ECE earlier this year and i've asked him about the previous year's acceptance numbers, and they were in like mid 80s to high 80s, and he said they dont correspond with the website/pamphlets. so i was just looking for someone who has been accepted to the ECE program or has been rejected from it before, thanks

[xtcnrice]

Just got my pin. But my history teacher gave me a 65 on my essay :mad: AND I GOT IT ASSESSED 3 TIMES AND HE SAID IT WAS GOOD!

Pissed off... Don't want to goto school anymore

hey, a lot of us get that crap all the time. i just had an English content test on a novel we read, and the day after we had to do seminar presentations on specific chapters. i mean, she wont give us a break, and she favours people. it really depends on your teacher.. i hate my english teacher, she's so unfair its ridiculous..

edit: oh, and i did bad on the seminar because there was literally NO time to prepare for it.

[Dark-Colonel]

well, i mean an exact number for cut off %ages, because i've talked to this person presenting a seminar on ECE earlier this year and i've asked him about the previous year's acceptance numbers, and they were in like mid 80s to high 80s, and he said they dont correspond with the website/pamphlets. so i was just looking for someone who has been accepted to the ECE program or has been rejected from it before, thanks


Well I don't know anyone but (you probably heard this a million times) just to be on the safe side its always best to go above their expectations.

See the thing is that they don't give you a final cut-off grade because they don't know if a lot of people will apply or not. So they say mid 85% is recommended just so you can be a potential candidate. For all you know, you can get lucky and all the applicants have high 70s and low 80s.

I know friends who have gotten into programs (more than 1 friend) that said "Recommended High 80, low 90" but their finally average was a low 80. I don't know how but its because they don't have a set cut off grade (which is dumb in my honest opinion, stop giving us recommendations and just give us a final set answer).

[epy]

Best advice for grade 12s....learn as much as u can in grade 12 cause u have the time...if u dont u will regret like me this year....shouldnt have wasted that much time in grade 12....


getting into university is not hard...surviving in it and adapting its environment is the hardest..

most of u wont believe me...i understand i didnt believe it last year...but u guys will learn it the hard way next year.

ESPECIALLY IF UR PLANNING TO GO ENGINEERING....STAY AWAY!!

i completely agree with this statement. i was in eng at u of t this year and have dropped out because of my bad work ethic and my lack of grade twelve knowledge. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW YOUR GRADE TWELVE MATH. you wont have time to relearn it in uni.

[sPiKyAZN]

Anyone else getting killed by the new gr12 math? I'm pretty worried now...all my courses are high 80s or 90s, but my math is really killing me at around 70%.

If I don't finish functions above 70% I think i'll be screwed...is there anything I can do if that happens? Night school? Problem is my school is a term school so I can't just retake it next semester :/

[xtcnrice]

Well I don't know anyone but (you probably heard this a million times) just to be on the safe side its always best to go above their expectations.

See the thing is that they don't give you a final cut-off grade because they don't know if a lot of people will apply or not. So they say mid 85% is recommended just so you can be a potential candidate. For all you know, you can get lucky and all the applicants have high 70s and low 80s.

I know friends who have gotten into programs (more than 1 friend) that said "Recommended High 80, low 90" but their finally average was a low 80. I don't know how but its because they don't have a set cut off grade (which is dumb in my honest opinion, stop giving us recommendations and just give us a final set answer).

thanks for your reply!

[corrupt123]

I also think uni's inflate their grades somewhat. I can't back it up, but everyone I've spoken with (staff included) tend to agree that the "average entrance grades" are usually pushed up to some degree.

[breezyo1]

Do uni's look at your grade 11 marks? If they do I am screwed. =/

[Deans21]

Do uni's look at your grade 11 marks? If they do I am screwed. =/

When I applied 5 years ago they only looked at my OAC marks. If your grade 12 marks are good I would think you would be fine. If they're borderline you might be in a bit of trouble. But hey... it's still worth trying.

[corrupt123]

Yeah, they'll look at 11's for early-acceptance and if your 12's are right on the line. Realistically just focus on doing well in grade 12, and dont worry about 11.

[dimlight]

hey, a lot of us get that crap all the time. i just had an English content test on a novel we read, and the day after we had to do seminar presentations on specific chapters. i mean, she wont give us a break, and she favours people. it really depends on your teacher.. i hate my english teacher, she's so unfair its ridiculous..

edit: oh, and i did bad on the seminar because there was literally NO time to prepare for it.

i have the same type of teacher but instead its for math...he gives random quizes that are way beyond what we know.

i'm in my grade 12th year and my math teacher has his ph degree. his mindset is that he gives us university level problems and expects us to do it flawlessly. it's so unfair.

he also has his favourites...and those favourites get top marks..while the ones he hates he just punishes them with 60s and 70s

it is especially unfair because adv. functions is supposed to be easy. but most of us are not doing so well because of the advanced/university level problems he gives us.

but of course he has the power to bell curve the low marks and also vice versa

is anyone having difficulties with grade 12 bio? because im getting killed in it

[nickia]

i have the same type of teacher but instead its for math...he gives random quizes that are way beyond what we know.

i'm in my grade 12th year and my math teacher has his ph degree. his mindset is that he gives us university level problems and expects us to do it flawlessly. it's so unfair.

he also has his favourites...and those favourites get top marks..while the ones he hates he just punishes them with 60s and 70s

it is especially unfair because adv. functions is supposed to be easy. but most of us are not doing so well because of the advanced/university level problems he gives us.

but of course he has the power to bell curve the low marks and also vice versa

is anyone having difficulties with grade 12 bio? because im getting killed in it

stop complaining about your math. There only so much a teacher can do to "favour" students in a math class. If you are good at it, you won't be complaining. Wait until you are university then complain.

[epy]

Anyone else getting killed by the new gr12 math? I'm pretty worried now...all my courses are high 80s or 90s, but my math is really killing me at around 70%.

If I don't finish functions above 70% I think i'll be screwed...is there anything I can do if that happens? Night school? Problem is my school is a term school so I can't just retake it next semester :/

lots of universities evaluate repeated courses differently. i think u of t only looks at first try's mark, so make sure u know how ur uni sees repeated courses.

[CSR]

stop complaining about your math. There only so much a teacher can do to "favour" students in a math class. If you are good at it, you won't be complaining. Wait until you are university then complain.

+1

There u can get royally screwed.

[Dark-Colonel]

lots of universities evaluate repeated courses differently. i think u of t only looks at first try's mark, so make sure u know how ur uni sees repeated courses.

Wrong

They just look at your TOP SIX GRADE 12 COURSES for final acceptance.

Unless you have a PERSONAL INTERVIEW for a program with somebody who might question to why you needed a 2nd try at a course.

Other than that it does not matter how many times you re-take it, guidance counselors repeat the same thing, top six and thats it.

Go speak with your counselor if you don't believe me.

[alv077]

Yep; I remember putting in "kinky sex" on a supplementary form for a uni I didn't really want to get into... I think it was UT for management or commerce or something like that. Still got in :cheesygri

Those supplementary forms are a joke if you have the marks.

[corrupt123]

Wrong

They just look at your TOP SIX GRADE 12 COURSES for final acceptance.

Unless you have a PERSONAL INTERVIEW for a program with somebody who might question to why you needed a 2nd try at a course.

Other than that it does not matter how many times you re-take it, guidance counselors repeat the same thing, top six and thats it.

Go speak with your counselor if you don't believe me.

Um, no, it depends on the university. You guidance councellor is wrong.

I've got the McGill viewbook infront of me, that I got direct from a McGill rep. It says courses that have been re-taken will be averaged between the original & new mark.

[thesloth]

i completely agree with this statement. i was in eng at u of t this year and have dropped out because of my bad work ethic and my lack of grade twelve knowledge. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW YOUR GRADE TWELVE MATH. you wont have time to relearn it in uni.

Don't listen to people telling you how terrible, awful and difficult your first year of university will be. I remember my first couple years, and they were a couple of the best years I can ever remember. Do the work, study for your exams, and things will work out fine. Make sure that you enjoy your first year at university though, it's a unique experience that you will never get to have again.

The truth of the matter is that things will always get a little harder and more difficult as you progress to "the next level". As long as you're prepared for this and accept it, you won't have any problems. Besides, it'd be quite dull to go through life w/o ever being challenged!

[sPiKyAZN]

lots of universities evaluate repeated courses differently. i think u of t only looks at first try's mark, so make sure u know how ur uni sees repeated courses.

Yeah I've been checking the different sites...a few average them but most of them just take the higher mark.

I just wasn't sure if I could count a course repeated in 2nd semester since I technically wouldn't be done by the time marks had to be submitted. But my friend told me they would just send in my midterm mark and that would count so I guess it should work out, right?

And I wouldn't lose any credibility by redoing a course right? None of the business programs I want to get into require an interview or anything like that just a few supplementary apps.

[babaji]

Yep; I remember putting in "kinky sex" on a supplementary form for a uni I didn't really want to get into... I think it was UT for management or commerce or something like that. Still got in :cheesygri

Those supplementary forms are a joke if you have the marks.

LOL!

[jwei]

so whats everyone applying too:D:lol:

[corrupt123]

Mech Eng @ Mcgill. I also applied to UofT and Waterloo, but McGill is choice #1.

Are there any student forums for McGill or canada in general? I'd like to get a feel for the atmosphere and read up a bit on the res's and stuff, but through a non-bias source.

[breezyo1]

Do uni's frown upon you if you have 3 u and 3m courses? Specifically Ryerson or York.

[ben_liu]

so whats everyone applying too:D:lol:

Human Resource Management

UofT:Mississauga
York
Ryerson

[jwei]

im going

business:
mac
schulich
UFT

[AcidBomber]

Ahaha all hell broke loose last May...

[Dark-Colonel]

Ahaha all hell broke loose last May...

Some of my friends got accepted as late as June, but does anyone know when they send you the "sorry but at this time we can't etc." letter?

[EZman]

Applied to Shulich, UofT and UTM. Don't want to live on residence so these are my top picks.

[blizzah]

Anyone else getting killed by the new gr12 math? I'm pretty worried now...all my courses are high 80s or 90s, but my math is really killing me at around 70%.

If I don't finish functions above 70% I think i'll be screwed...is there anything I can do if that happens? Night school? Problem is my school is a term school so I can't just retake it next semester :/

Im the opposite, English is bringing me down 84 in english, 98 in AF

In order:

U of T SG Life Sciences
McMaster Health Sciences
McMaster Life Sciences
U of T MISS Humanities - Heath Studies
Waterloo Science and Business
Queens Life Science

But I expect to get in all except Health Science, ~93 average

[sPiKyAZN]

Well I think I've missed the deadline for the Milennium scholarship...feels like a kick in the nuts I didn't know scholarship deadlines began so early!

Anyone know of other large scholarship programs? I think i'm going to be screwed for OSAP because my parents make a decent amount of money and I have a part time job :/

[corrupt123]

Well I think I've missed the deadline for the Milennium scholarship...feels like a kick in the nuts I didn't know scholarship deadlines began so early!

Anyone know of other large scholarship programs? I think i'm going to be screwed for OSAP because my parents make a decent amount of money and I have a part time job :/

Has to be post dated by friday, you've still got time!

I need my &$*#ing teacher to come to school so he can sign it and I'm mailing it off tomorrow. I started it on monday! hahaha

[sPiKyAZN]

Has to be post dated by friday, you've still got time!

I need my &$*#ing teacher to come to school so he can sign it and I'm mailing it off tomorrow. I started it on monday! hahaha

lol no teacher will make a letter within a day... (at least, not for me :/)

[corrupt123]

lol no teacher will make a letter within a day... (at least, not for me :/)

Yes, unfortunately that is very true. You've got to have some swing with the teacher, or have them be willing to let you do most of the work and put their name down... if you catch my drift ;)

[jwei]

hrmm im scared the business cutoff @ mcmaster is going to be high....

[alv077]

Define high.

McMaster was my first letter - and as I recall, they take pretty much anyone over 80

[jwei]

Define high.

McMaster was my first letter - and as I recall, they take pretty much anyone over 80

lol i'm afraid its going to be higher than the 80-82 expected cutoff

[Hoodwink]

hrmm im scared the business cutoff @ mcmaster is going to be high....

If you have an 82, you're guaranteed in.

It's definitely nowhere near Schulich, Queen's or UTSG, and not even on Laurier or UTM's level, so any mark higher than that will be ridiculous.

[nickia]

80+ is guaranteed acceptance for Mac Bcomm.

[alv077]

=P don't sweat it

80 will be fine... i dont think you get to send in a extracurricular list for that program though

[Fatman]

Hey guys,
I'm actually really worried about not getting into a University.

I applied to Uvic, waterloo, UBC, queens, and western.

I just want to go into arts and made the mistake of not getting out of Physics before the cut off date.

Anyway

I'm getting like 86 in English

88 in math

86 in Biology

and 70 in Physics...do I even have a chance of getting in?

thanks

[blizzah]

Hey guys,
I'm actually really worried about not getting into a University.

I applied to Uvic, waterloo, UBC, queens, and western.

I just want to go into arts and made the mistake of not getting out of Physics before the cut off date.

Anyway

I'm getting like 86 in English

88 in math

86 in Biology

and 70 in Physics...do I even have a chance of getting in?

thanks

I don't know how inflated marks are in BC, but those marks should get you into a 2nd rate uni easily. Maybe not the ones you listed, you have a good chance though, but Victoria or York or something, you will get in.

[Slimfast]

Anybody here applying to Queen's commerce?

[young__wun1515]

hey

does anyone know what the cut off of at Ryerson for marketing was last year or for this year as well?

thanks.

[N1QUE24]

UTM is such a b**** honestly... got raped the first term.. now I know what to expect.

I hate my life now :mad:

[XxXSnake23XxX]

UTM is such a b**** honestly... got raped the first term.. now I know what to expect.

I hate my life now :mad:

i hear that alot!
anyone know the cut off's for ryerson?

[N1QUE24]

It's true =(

All my friends died .. we hate our lives now

[bleeet]

UTM is such a b**** honestly... got raped the first term.. now I know what to expect.

I hate my life now :mad:so true I never heard of a school that screws people over more than UTM

[CanadaBoy]

Hey guys UTM is one of my top choices :S

Can you guys explain how it screwed you over?

[CanadaBoy]

Hey guys UTM is one of my top choices :S

Can you guys explain how it screwed you over?

bump

[brownie123]

so true I never heard of a school that screws people over more than UTM

Yes, it's mother.

[VorteC]

WTH... Queen's Engineering only allows 5 courses to be calculated for the admission average.. and they're all prerequisites.. OMG..

[Dark-Colonel]

WTH... Queen's Engineering only allows 5 courses to be calculated for the admission average.. and they're all prerequisites.. OMG..

Wow that is quite F'ed up lol.

Must be extremely difficult to get in.

From the booklets of all the various Universities I have seen, the lower amount of prerequisites required, the lower the acceptance average is.

If you look at any program, 12U English is obviously a must. However, some programs have only one or no more prerequisites after that; and for some you usually only need a 70 or 75 to get in.

[maebach]

Im so fked. Last summer I was looking at the double degree at waterloo/laurier, and it said the requirements are a min of 75 in english. I look today while applying and they also want an 85 in functions and calculus? F*CK! Im at an 80 in math with 1 test and an exam to go. It totally blows because last year I ripped in math.

[babaji]

Im so fked. Last summer I was looking at the double degree at waterloo/laurier, and it said the requirements are a min of 75 in english. I look today while applying and they also want an 85 in functions and calculus? F*CK! Im at an 80 in math with 1 test and an exam to go. It totally blows because last year I ripped in math.

if you're not far from an 85, you can ask your teacher to bump it for you
it usually works if the teacher likes you

[maebach]

if you're not far from an 85, you can ask your teacher to bump it for you
it usually works if the teacher likes you

I'll try that. I tihnk the teacher likes me, so hopefully that will work. Ill probably get an 84.

[brownie123]

Im so fked. Last summer I was looking at the double degree at waterloo/laurier, and it said the requirements are a min of 75 in english. I look today while applying and they also want an 85 in functions and calculus? F*CK! Im at an 80 in math with 1 test and an exam to go. It totally blows because last year I ripped in math.

Happened to alot of my friends as well. Grade 11 Math was alot of discontinuous theories, well before they changed the curriculum. We learned about annuities, sine waves, imaginary numbers, etc. But in Calculus, you learn one thing -- and it continues from there. Alot of people in my class, had trouble with that.

My advice is, even if you get that 85 -- definitely improve on your Math skills. I think at UW you take MATH 115 and 145, some really crazy math with alot of proofs. Gotta have rock-solid skills.

[ktan09]

I applied to Ryerson's Journalism and Radio + TV Program, only thing is I know that those are really hard to get into. If I don't get in, I'd rather goto College for that stuff than take another Major. Do I still have to apply to College now or can I apply after I find out that they didn't accept me?

[td0t0]

I just applied to UofT SG, York and McMaster
I should get into all 3...

[vinceee]

I just applied for university a couple days ago. Does anyone know when the last date is to change my application? I'm trying to change it but the site crashed or something, probably too many people trying to apply lol. Thanks!

[NiftyScent]

Yeah the sites being a$$ right now. I haven't applied yet. I'm worried!

[mg1102]

We got our pins in early November, and that's when I applied. I'm happy I did, as I can't log into OUAC right now. Good luck to anyone who is trying to get in.

I'm applying to:
Queen's Commerce and Queen's Arts
UWO Social Science + Ivey
McMaster ArtSci
McGill Management
WLU BBA
Waterloo AFMPA (Don't wanna go there at all, don't even know why I applied)
Schulich BBA (Also don't want to go here, but my dad wanted me to apply to one Toronto Uni just in case)

[Jeff18]

Just applied today and had trouble getting on it for a while. Applied for :

Waterloo - AFM-PA
WLU - BBA
utsc - management accounting coop
western management accounting (was too lazy to apply for ivey aeo)

was gonna apply to schulich , but too lazy to do their SAF as well..

[maebach]

down till 5 am. **** I got my courses ready, but didnt get my parents credit card till now. im screwed

[Fatman]

Still applying to universities. Got the main ones down.

U of T
UBC
Western
Queens
Waterloo
Uvic.


If I get let's say an 81-82 % average, what are the chances of getting into Arts?

What other universities to apply for? I'm thinking York might be easy to get into. Anything in Montreal? Has to be English speaking though. I won't mind learning a little French while I'm there.

[vinceee]

Anybody who is taking Business programs in York or Ryerson..especially Finance..can anybody tell me how many days a week you have lessons? and how many days you get off?

Thanks:cheesygri

[sPiKyAZN]

Just applied today and had trouble getting on it for a while. Applied for :

Waterloo - AFM-PA
WLU - BBA
utsc - management accounting coop
western management accounting (was too lazy to apply for ivey aeo)

was gonna apply to schulich , but too lazy to do their SAF as well..

You don't think you might regret not taking the few hours to write the apps in a few years?

[student101]

I have a question about OUAC:

If I have already applied and paid and everything, can i still log on to the 101 form again and apply to one more additional university?

ALSO

WHEN is the Ivey supplementary due?! I think i'm going to apply there but I can't find the due date anywhere!

[preshans]

hey lets say my top 6 marks averaged out to be 90%-93%, do you think ill have chance for the health sci at mac?

[NiftyScent]

down till 5 am. **** I got my courses ready, but didnt get my parents credit card till now. im screwed
Well the site just got back up and working. I applied.

[maebach]

i applied at 11ish am as well.

[Jeff18]

OUAC APPLICATIONS EXTENDED TO JAN 11


You don't think you might regret not taking the few hours to write the apps in a few years?

yea...ill probably regret it later on, but schulich was 4th choice and ivey i've been told by some people i know that applying in 2nd year would be fine too


I have a question about OUAC:

If I have already applied and paid and everything, can i still log on to the 101 form again and apply to one more additional university?

ALSO

WHEN is the Ivey supplementary due?! I think i'm going to apply there but I can't find the due date anywhere!
Yes, you can apply to an additional one

Ivey AEO is due JANUARY 9th!! online, dont forget to pay the $100 too (NOT ON OUAC) when you submit your application.

[sPiKyAZN]

I have a question about OUAC:

If I have already applied and paid and everything, can i still log on to the 101 form again and apply to one more additional university?

ALSO

WHEN is the Ivey supplementary due?! I think i'm going to apply there but I can't find the due date anywhere!

If you need to change your app after you paid, I think you have to go to the OUAC site to change your choices...read the email you get after you pay (usually takes a day).

I don't get why you guys have waited so long to apply. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain (chance at early acceptance?) by applying early.

[maebach]

Queens
UofT
McMaster
Laurier
Waterloo

I dont have to write a paper or anything do I? Any hidden fees like Ivey here?

[blizzah]

Queens
UofT
McMaster
Laurier
Waterloo

I dont have to write a paper or anything do I? Any hidden fees like Ivey here?

Depends on the program, U of T commerce requires a charge and UTSC and McMaster Health science requires suplementary apps.

[student101]

OUAC APPLICATIONS EXTENDED TO JAN 11
yea...ill probably regret it later on, but schulich was 4th choice and ivey i've been told by some people i know that applying in 2nd year would be fine too


Yes, you can apply to an additional one

Ivey AEO is due JANUARY 9th!! online, dont forget to pay the $100 too (NOT ON OUAC) when you submit your application.


If you need to change your app after you paid, I think you have to go to the OUAC site to change your choices...read the email you get after you pay (usually takes a day).

I don't get why you guys have waited so long to apply. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain (chance at early acceptance?) by applying early.

Thanks for responding sPiKyAZN and Jeff18- $100 for a supplementary?! ..redonkulous!

And I did apply early! I just wasn't sure whether or not to apply to Ivey so I was planning on just adding one more university to my already completed application. But I don't think I will anymore seeing as how the Ivey supplementary is due tomorrow! :| gaah why is it due so early!? Slash I highly doubt I would have gotten early acceptance anyway.

[Fatman]

is OUAC down again?`

I thought that applications were due like in March?

[LegiT]

is OUAC down again?`


As a result of technical difficulties, the applications will be temporarily unavailable from 10:30 p.m. Tuesday until 10 a.m. Wednesday, EST.

Note the secondary school university application (101) deadline date has been extended to 11:59 p.m. on Friday, January 11, 2008.

Works now?

[mg1102]

FYI, Ivey has been moved back to the 11th (look it up on their website).

[sPiKyAZN]

Thanks for responding sPiKyAZN and Jeff18- $100 for a supplementary?! ..redonkulous!

And I did apply early! I just wasn't sure whether or not to apply to Ivey so I was planning on just adding one more university to my already completed application. But I don't think I will anymore seeing as how the Ivey supplementary is due tomorrow! :| gaah why is it due so early!? Slash I highly doubt I would have gotten early acceptance anyway.

They just extended the deadline to Jan. 11 @ 4pm...the application can be done if you spend the night on it. It's actually not too hard if you have all your experience/activities laid out (I didn't :( )

[maebach]

Depends on the program, U of T commerce requires a charge and UTSC and McMaster Health science requires suplementary apps.

I applied for uoft commerce at scarb.

[blizzah]

I applied for uoft commerce at scarb.

http://www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~admliaison/forms/index.htm

Honestly, if you are going to university or want to go to university, you should be able to find these things on your own.

[Fatman]

bah it is down again until tomorrow!

Anyone know the 105 deadline?

[sPiKyAZN]

Has anyone else applied to UTSC Co-op Management? I sent in my OUAC app way back at December 13, 2007 and I haven't received any emails from UofT...has anyone else got anything?

[student101]

They just extended the deadline to Jan. 11 @ 4pm...the application can be done if you spend the night on it. It's actually not too hard if you have all your experience/activities laid out (I didn't :( )

So wait... the Ivey supplementary corresponds with the OUAC deadline?

[blizzah]

Has anyone else applied to UTSC Co-op Management? I sent in my OUAC app way back at December 13, 2007 and I haven't received any emails from UofT...has anyone else got anything?

Neither me or my friends have recieved any emails from U of T, however, none of us applied to Scarborough.

[mg1102]

Yea ivey is due 4pm on jan 9,08, even though ouac extended deadline, IVEY is still due jan 9,08 4pm est, gl finishing their form, i didnt bother even though i applied to bmos and found out that ivey wanted to rip me out of 100 extra bucks before my decision to go there for expensive fees, they made my rejection of them fairly easy.
Incorrect, the deadline was moved to the 11th (as their website says).

[maebach]

Yeah, I applied dec 16, they received it dec 19, and i got my hard-copy mail acknowledgement on dec 20, the supplementary form is due online by FEB 1, 2008 if your hard-acknowledgement has been received before JAN 11. If you get it after JAN 11, its due 3weeks after receiving it.

Check your mail, your ouac-specified email, if not there, keep waiting or better yet, CALL THEM

I applied yesterday. If I dont get my letter tommorrow, Im calling.

[sPiKyAZN]

Yeah, I applied dec 16, they received it dec 19, and i got my hard-copy mail acknowledgement on dec 20, the supplementary form is due online by FEB 1, 2008 if your hard-acknowledgement has been received before JAN 11. If you get it after JAN 11, its due 3weeks after receiving it.

Check your mail, your ouac-specified email, if not there, keep waiting or better yet, CALL THEM

Thanks. I dropped them an email last night if I don't get anything by the end of the week I shall call them.

[wbastien]

I applied to:

Western
McMaster
Brock
Waterloo
Guelph
Dalhouse (Halifax)

I had decent marks last year (90+s), and this year at midterm I had 93 average, but I have easy courses this semester (Biology, Sociology, French). Next semester is death: Advanced Functions, Calc + Vectors, English, Chemistry. (BTW I applied for general sciences for the majority (required for applying to science programs))

[Fatman]

anybody know the cutoff marks for arts are this year at:

UBC
UVIC
Queens
Waterloo
Western
U of T

Thanks

[CorSter]

Any Ryerson applications here? I applied to two grades-plus programs with MAJOR Supplementary apps on December 9th, and haven't received any confirmation from them yet. Supplementarys are due Feburary 1 so i'm cutting it short.

I'll probably call tomorrow, i've heard from the other 4 schools I applied to.

[NiftyScent]

I have a question.

Lets say the lowest acceptance average for a program was 87 last year and it stays the same this year. Say if you have a mark of 90+, can you still be rejected?

I'm looking at Queens Commerce in particular. The enrollment last year was 4100. 300 got accepted. Does that mean 300 had a average of 87+ while the majority of the rest applying had less?

Edit: Also for extra-curricular activies. Say if I practice/play guitar at home/with a "band", does that still count? I devote a lot of my extra curricular time towards it but I don't have a teacher outside of school or anything. All I have are multiple guitar awards from school to show for my efforts.

[blizzah]

I have a question.

Lets say the lowest acceptance average for a program was 87 last year and it stays the same this year. Say if you have a mark of 90+, can you still be rejected?

I'm looking at Queens Commerce in particular. The enrollment last year was 4100. 300 got accepted. Does that mean 300 had a average of 87+ while the majority of the rest applying had less?

Queens Commerce is different beacuse they also have a AIF which is very important in their selection process. That means you need an 87 to be CONSIDERED, and a good AIF to be accepted. So out of those 4100, many would not have had a 87 average but many would have and had a poorer AIF and they would not have been accepted. However, for other programs not requiring a supplementary, you would be a lock for entry if you are above the cut off by a considerable amount.

[Dark-Colonel]

I have a question.

Lets say the lowest acceptance average for a program was 87 last year and it stays the same this year. Say if you have a mark of 90+, can you still be rejected?

I'm looking at Queens Commerce in particular. The enrollment last year was 4100. 300 got accepted. Does that mean 300 had a average of 87+ while the majority of the rest applying had less?

Edit: Also for extra-curricular activies. Say if I practice/play guitar at home/with a "band", does that still count? I devote a lot of my extra curricular time towards it but I don't have a teacher outside of school or anything. All I have are multiple guitar awards from school to show for my efforts.

Universities at many times include numbers who were not even close to being acceptable for the program. For all we know only 500 were considered eligible.

[jwei]

Well, i didnt want to make a totally new thread...just wondering... laurier has a supplementary application for undergrads applying right? where is it?!?!?!

[CanadaBoy]

I have a question about OUAC

lets say I applied a few days ago to 3 schools and paid.

Can I add another school today and submit again :S ?

[jwei]

I have a question about OUAC

lets say I applied a few days ago to 3 schools and paid.

Can I add another school today and submit again :S ?

Yep, just go to the site and instead of choosing "apply online now"...select the option "review and change your submitted application". I'm pretty sure you can add the other school there, of course it costs money

[NiftyScent]

Ugh, I missed the Schulich supplementary application deadline. I mistakened it for the outside of Ontario students (Feb. 1).

Should I take Schulich off my OUAC application (will they automatically not consider me without supplementary application)?
Should I take a chance and send it in still (ie. on Monday/Tuesday)?

Edit: Okay, now I'm confused.

http://www.yorku.ca/web/futurestudents/requirements/deadlines_fall.html - says January 9th is the deadline
http://www.schulich.yorku.ca/ssb-extra/bba.nsf/allwebdocuments/newbbaibba - says February 20 is the deadline

Or is January 9th just the OUAC application deadline (I know they changed the OUAC deadline to January 11th, I guess York didn't update it yet?). I guess I'll just get it in before February 20th...

[blizzah]

Ugh, I missed the Schulich supplementary application deadline. I mistakened it for the outside of Ontario students (Feb. 1).

Should I take Schulich off my OUAC application (will they automatically not consider me without supplementary application)?
Should I take a chance and send it in still (ie. on Monday/Tuesday)?

Edit: Okay, now I'm confused.

http://www.yorku.ca/web/futurestudents/requirements/deadlines_fall.html - says January 9th is the deadline
http://www.schulich.yorku.ca/ssb-extra/bba.nsf/allwebdocuments/newbbaibba - says February 20 is the deadline

Or is January 9th just the OUAC application deadline (I know they changed the OUAC deadline to January 11th, I guess York didn't update it yet?). I guess I'll just get it in before February 20th...

Definitely call them.

[sPiKyAZN]

Ugh, I missed the Schulich supplementary application deadline. I mistakened it for the outside of Ontario students (Feb. 1).

Should I take Schulich off my OUAC application (will they automatically not consider me without supplementary application)?
Should I take a chance and send it in still (ie. on Monday/Tuesday)?

Edit: Okay, now I'm confused.

http://www.yorku.ca/web/futurestudents/requirements/deadlines_fall.html - says January 9th is the deadline
http://www.schulich.yorku.ca/ssb-extra/bba.nsf/allwebdocuments/newbbaibba - says February 20 is the deadline

Or is January 9th just the OUAC application deadline (I know they changed the OUAC deadline to January 11th, I guess York didn't update it yet?). I guess I'll just get it in before February 20th...

I'm pretty sure it's February 20th; even the supplementary application document says Feb 20.


 1st-year Entry applicants from within Canada. Submit this Supplementary Form by February 20, 2008.

 1st-year Entry applicants from outside Canada. Submit this Supplementary Form by March 19, 2008.

 2nd-year (Delayed Entry) applicants. Submit this Supplementary Form by
May 21, 2008.


I think that's gotta be for OUAC only. You could give them a call to double check. But I'm pretty sure it's February because that's what my business teacher told me (she has experience because she writes a lot of reference letters for people applying to Schulich)

[Fatman]

I have another question

let's say since Ontario doesn't require BC provincials anymore, and I decide to take it anyway.

Will they choose the better mark of the two? As in, either final without provincial or final with provincial.

Some school do this like Uvic but not sure about Ontario.

Thanks

[just_For_ipod]

Applied to U of T Engineering Science and paid for my $30 fee on December 27 but I have yet to recieve my SPF(Student Profile Form). One of my friends apparently recieved his SPF a while ago.
Anyone else applied to Engineering Science and have or "have not" recieved their SPF?

I emailed them last week on Monday, emailed them on Thursday. No reply at all. I try calling them and no one picks up and the voice mail is full....

So much for UTSG being a good school....


I also applied to Ryerson last weekend on the 5th. But I haven't recieved a confirmation email yet......


Waterloo on the otherhand gave me a Student number and the link to fill in my student profile which I promptly completed last week. (I applied for their Computer Engineering Program)

[corrupt123]

Applied to U of T Engineering Science and paid for my $30 fee on December 27 but I have yet to recieve my SPF(Student Profile Form). One of my friends apparently recieved his SPF a while ago.
Anyone else applied to Engineering Science and have or "have not" recieved their SPF?

I emailed them last week on Monday, emailed them on Thursday. No reply at all. I try calling them and no one picks up and the voice mail is full....

So much for UTSG being a good school....


I also applied to Ryerson last weekend on the 5th. But I haven't recieved a confirmation email yet......


Waterloo on the otherhand gave me a Student number and the link to fill in my student profile which I promptly completed last week. (I applied for their Computer Engineering Program)

I applied to Mech Eng at UofT (St george campus) on Nov 29th and have since recieved one e-mail and one letter (that was a while back) neither of which was very useful, mostly just "application recieved" BS. Now, Jan 14th, I recieved a package with the engineering info booklets, my UofT student number, my SPF PIN and all that stuff. I've got till the 14th of Feb to submit the SPF form and supplementary documents. Ughhh....

[VorteC]

I applied to Mech Eng at UofT (St george campus) on Nov 29th and have since recieved one e-mail and one letter (that was a while back) neither of which was very useful, mostly just "application recieved" BS. Now, Jan 14th, I recieved a package with the engineering info booklets, my UofT student number, my SPF PIN and all that stuff. I've got till the 14th of Feb to submit the SPF form and supplementary documents. Ughhh....

Where do you get the SPF?

[maebach]

Laurier mailed me a letter their glad I applied an that they need my email for contacting. AT least they said its better than mailing. Still nothing from UofT though

[corrupt123]

Where do you get the SPF?

Well, I talked to a friend of mine and he said that if I've been issued a UofT student number and SPF then I've been accepted. At this point, all I have to do is fill out that supplementary application and pay the $30 and I'm in. However, he also said they can still change their minds? :confused:

Seems kind of weird to me, but it was a pretty big package they sent me. I also have completed 4 of my 6 U courses in grade 12 already, and am doing quite well in the last two. Maybe it was early acceptance? They didn't send me a formal letter of acceptance though...

[RL08]

Applied to U of T Engineering Science and paid for my $30 fee on December 27 but I have yet to recieve my SPF(Student Profile Form). One of my friends apparently recieved his SPF a while ago.
Anyone else applied to Engineering Science and have or "have not" recieved their SPF?

I emailed them last week on Monday, emailed them on Thursday. No reply at all. I try calling them and no one picks up and the voice mail is full....

So much for UTSG being a good school....


If you have time, just go down to the school and ask them. They actually have two rooms dedicated to this stuff, they have Undergraduate Admissions and Awards as well as a high-school office. What I would do, is get to the campus...find the John Galbraith building, walk in use the map to find the Admissions and Awards office, go on from there.

[sPiKyAZN]

Well, I talked to a friend of mine and he said that if I've been issued a UofT student number and SPF then I've been accepted. At this point, all I have to do is fill out that supplementary application and pay the $30 and I'm in. However, he also said they can still change their minds? :confused:

Seems kind of weird to me, but it was a pretty big package they sent me. I also have completed 4 of my 6 U courses in grade 12 already, and am doing quite well in the last two. Maybe it was early acceptance? They didn't send me a formal letter of acceptance though...

Why don't you just check your OUAC? Every uni gives prospective students an student # so that's not out of the ordinary. Sorry dude, unless you were a superstar in Grade 11 I don't think that was EA.

[NiftyScent]

Couple of quesitons...

I was wondering, its the final semester one and midterm semester two marks that make up your average right? And from what I understand, you'll receive a letter stating you'll have to maintain your average to be admitted into such program. What do you have to maintain it at? The same your getting (pretty stressful then)? Or will you'll have headroom (plus/minus x percent). If so, how much is it generally?

Also, I'm looking at the BBA program at Schulich lately as well. Anyone in it? Anyone know anyone in it? What did you get in with? Extra curriculars? How is the commute there? What's the schedule like? Schulich looks really attractive due to their reputation, low tuition costs (ie. compared to Queens), entrance scholarships. I also can commute there as well (although I plan on staying in residence for first year).

[Dark-Colonel]

Couple of quesitons...

I was wondering, its the final semester one and midterm semester two marks that make up your average right? And from what I understand, you'll receive a letter stating you'll have to maintain your average to be admitted into such program. What do you have to maintain it at? The same your getting (pretty stressful then)? Or will you'll have headroom (plus/minus x percent). If so, how much is it generally?

Also, I'm looking at the BBA program at Schulich lately as well. Anyone in it? Anyone know anyone in it? What did you get in with? Extra curriculars? How is the commute there? What's the schedule like?

For your first question, pretty much yes. Although it is possible to get accepted as late as June for a program, its probably best to have good 2nd semester mid term marks. You have to maintain it at whatever their asking you of. If your average is 82% at midterm and they wanted a 76% average or above, you'll have to keep it above that. Midterms in 2nd semester come early April if I recall correctly . . . and they start handing out most of the acceptances around late April up until mid May.

I don't have an answer for the rest of your questions.

[blizzah]

What time do early acceptance start? now?

[Dark-Colonel]

What time do early acceptance start? now?

Not until mid-late February. They look at your Grd 11 and first semester grade 12 grades. If your grade 11 is in the 75+ and the same goes for your Grade 12 than you'll most likely get some early acceptances.

[sPiKyAZN]

What time do early acceptance start? now?

There's actually some uber early acceptances going on right now. I know people who were accepted a month ago, due to either less competitive programs or superstar gr11 marks.

[jwei]

i heard this year has tons of applicants for some reason...first year ever...is this true?

[Dark-Colonel]

i heard this year has tons of applicants for some reason...first year ever...is this true?

Just because there are tons of applicants doesn't mean all of them will get anything.

My teachers are constantly telling me how this year is their worst year of Grade 12 students they've ever had.

[jwei]

my teacher told me how she said she read something in the globemail/star and it said something about how this year theres the most applicants ever, and the only time there was more was when gr 13 was binded into 12.


EDIT: just found this link:
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/story.html?id=c95772da-1904-4158-8dc0-dc55d604ea3e

[Fatman]

So how does self reporting work? I heard that we can start punching in grades now for Ontario schools.

Where do I do it?

I heard that you can get accepted on the spot

[blizzah]

So how does self reporting work? I heard that we can start punching in grades now for Ontario schools.

Where do I do it?

I heard that you can get accepted on the spot

Not for ontario students, all marks are sent through OUAC.

Aw, I didn't apply to any weak schools, and my grade 11 marks were mid 80s and my grade 12 are low to mid 90s.

[preshans]

hey guys i know on the electronic notes site, i loked under som programes at U of T , and under prequisites, they also have "recommended"..is it true you won't get accepted if you don't have these "reccommended" courses? This is a life science program...neuro to be exact

[*annie*]

hey guys i know on the electronic notes site, i loked under som programes at U of T , and under prequisites, they also have "recommended"..is it true you won't get accepted if you don't have these "reccommended" courses? This is a life science program...neuro to be exact

No. You don't HAVE to have taken these"recommended" courses, however having done so will help you a lot. I know a bunch of science students who didn't take grade 12 physics ("recommended" in most science programs, but not always required) and got early admission without any problem.

[adamlewis7]

Hi, Just a quick question.

Will a 72-74 get me into most schools for social sci. (Hoping for Guelph or Laurier)?

Thanks

[Dark-Colonel]

hey guys i know on the electronic notes site, i loked under som programes at U of T , and under prequisites, they also have "recommended"..is it true you won't get accepted if you don't have these "reccommended" courses? This is a life science program...neuro to be exact

recommended is to help you out in two ways.

Have a slightly better chance of getting accepted (if your a weak candidate).

Second, if you do get into the program, having that course completed in high school would benefit you for university not saying that you can't learn the early steps in university (it'll just be easier for you).

[EZman]

Did anyone send the supplementary form to Shulich yet? Were your essays simple or deep? how did you present your activity report?
THX

[maebach]

So, I not doing great in english, so if I took it again next semester, would universities take my first sem mark, or mid term of second semester?

[NiftyScent]

So, I not doing great in english, so if I took it again next semester, would universities take my first sem mark, or mid term of second semester?
Check with universities/programs you're interested in. I believe it some may take the first, some may take the average and some may take your highest.

[Dark-Colonel]

So, I not doing great in english, so if I took it again next semester, would universities take my first sem mark, or mid term of second semester?

depends on the program. Every university says the same thing, "it depends on the program and the faculty".

If you have applied for a program that does not ask much, and has no supplementary application than in most cases they'll use the best one, or average them out. If your applying to a university where you do have an interview/supplementary application than you'll be asked why you took it a 2nd time.

The only sure way for you to find out is if you contact the person who's in charge of applicants and admission. Usually they can be found quite easily on their websites.

[Canada_7]

I applied to a crap load of schools, all within the same grade range, from around 75+ to low 80s, all for Accounting/Business despite never having taken a single course Business wise in high school (only cause I'm half-decent at math, gave up on the Engineering "dream" after I dropped Chem at midterm and just couldn't stand that crap anymore). I applied to Waterloo; annoys me how I have to fill out that AIF form. I'm wondering for Waterloo, is that Math exam that they put out where they sponsor or make every year (forgot the name, its like this math test you pay to write) something they weigh in? And also what else do they look at? Are extra-curricular things extremely important and looked at a lot (other than close to 300 voluntary hours, and previously having a part-time job for 5-6months, there's nothing else really extra-curricular I've done)? Also...it says its "recommended" I fill that form and submit it within 3 weeks of that email. The Friday past was the 3 weeks, but on the site also, in addition to the recommendated 3 weeks, the due date is March 7th, so I'm fine right? When filling it out (atleast when I was doing the sample form, haven't submitted a good copy yet), there's parts asking for marks of this year's stuff, how am I suppose to fill in the marks for courses I haven't even started and not going to start till my second semester does?

Here's the program I applied to at Waterloo:
http://electronicinfo.ca/en/program-details.php?pcode=205745_190208_304_136

[VorteC]

I applied to a crap load of schools, all within the same grade range, from around 75+ to low 80s, all for Accounting/Business despite never having taken a single course Business wise in high school (only cause I'm half-decent at math, gave up on the Engineering "dream" after I dropped Chem at midterm and just couldn't stand that crap anymore). I applied to Waterloo; annoys me how I have to fill out that AIF form. I'm wondering for Waterloo, is that Math exam that they put out where they sponsor or make every year (forgot the name, its like this math test you pay to write) something they weigh in? And also what else do they look at? Are extra-curricular things extremely important and looked at a lot (other than close to 300 voluntary hours, and previously having a part-time job for 5-6months, there's nothing else really extra-curricular I've done)? Also...it says its "recommended" I fill that form and submit it within 3 weeks of that email. The Friday past was the 3 weeks, but on the site also, in addition to the recommendated 3 weeks, the due date is March 7th, so I'm fine right? Also, when filling it out (atleast when I was doing the sample form, haven't submitted a good copy yet), there's parts asking for marks of this year's stuff, how am I suppose to fill in the marks for courses I haven't even started and not going to start till my second semester does?

Here's the program I applied to at Waterloo:
http://electronicinfo.ca/en/program-details.php?pcode=205745_190208_304_136

Waterloo does factor in that math exam that they sponsor, especially if you apply to math or something. The 3 weeks recommended thing you won't have to sweat, they do that so that they don't get a mass number of uploads a day before the deadline and their server crashes. Besides, the earlier you do it, t he earlier they issue your offer. If you can't fill in the marks, then you can leave it blank and they can get it off OUAC themselves.
BTW, I see it only has 1 prereq.. so getting a 80+ is very very easy. 5 bird courses is ownage. I got early acceptance for environment and business @ loo before I even did my AIF, cuz it only had 1 prereq as well. I'm still waiting on my mech. engineering acceptance tho :|

[Adage]

I applied to a crap load of schools, all within the same grade range, from around 75+ to low 80s, all for Accounting/Business despite never having taken a single course Business wise in high school (only cause I'm half-decent at math, gave up on the Engineering "dream" after I dropped Chem at midterm and just couldn't stand that crap anymore). I applied to Waterloo; annoys me how I have to fill out that AIF form. I'm wondering for Waterloo, is that Math exam that they put out where they sponsor or make every year (forgot the name, its like this math test you pay to write) something they weigh in? And also what else do they look at? Are extra-curricular things extremely important and looked at a lot (other than close to 300 voluntary hours, and previously having a part-time job for 5-6months, there's nothing else really extra-curricular I've done)? Also...it says its "recommended" I fill that form and submit it within 3 weeks of that email. The Friday past was the 3 weeks, but on the site also, in addition to the recommendated 3 weeks, the due date is March 7th, so I'm fine right? When filling it out (atleast when I was doing the sample form, haven't submitted a good copy yet), there's parts asking for marks of this year's stuff, how am I suppose to fill in the marks for courses I haven't even started and not going to start till my second semester does?

Here's the program I applied to at Waterloo:
http://electronicinfo.ca/en/program-details.php?pcode=205745_190208_304_136

If you are talking about the Euclid math contest that Waterloo hosts every year, then it is not taken into consideration for entrance UNLESS you are applying to the Faculty of Math in programs such as math and acturial science.

Since you are applying to AFM, your AIF and AFMAA will be critical towards your acceptance. Marks won't be the only ones that do it, they want to see some sort of leadership quality. My friend who had a 97% average in his top 6 applied to AFM and was denied acceptance. To compare, my other friends who had around 89-92% averages and who demonstrated leadership with student council/business clubs etc, were accepted.

Your AIF should be submitted before the stated due date on uwaterloo.ca for the program you applied to.

Although I am in engineering, I believe I got in because of my AIF since my marks were hovering around low 80s.


Waterloo does factor in that math exam that they sponsor, especially if you apply to math or something. The 3 weeks recommended thing you won't have to sweat, they do that so that they don't get a mass number of uploads a day before the deadline and their server crashes. Besides, the earlier you do it, t he earlier they issue your offer. If you can't fill in the marks, then you can leave it blank and they can get it off OUAC themselves.
BTW, I see it only has 1 prereq.. so getting a 80+ is very very easy. 5 bird courses is ownage. I got early acceptance for environment and business @ loo before I even did my AIF, cuz it only had 1 prereq as well. I'm still waiting on my mech. engineering acceptance tho :|

Not to say that you didn't study hard or that you are a bad student, but getting early acceptance to Environment & Business with the ES faculty at Loo isn't a big achievement. Admission into engineering begins to show up in April. Early acceptance is considered before midterm around the first week of April. Regular acceptance is considered around mid-May. So whether you get early acceptance or regular acceptance, getting into Loo for engineering will still be tough. Good luck!

[VorteC]

Not to say that you didn't study hard or that you are a bad student, but getting early acceptance to Environment & Business with the ES faculty at Loo isn't a big achievement. Admission into engineering begins to show up in April. Early acceptance is considered before midterm around the first week of April. Regular acceptance is considered around mid-May. So whether you get early acceptance or regular acceptance, getting into Loo for engineering will still be tough. Good luck!

Yeah I know man, not like I'm bragging or anything. I know the admission standard for Env.Bus. is pretty low, somewhere in the mid high 70s. It was more of a back up for me... the real test is mech. engineering =]

[Jon Lai]

Although I am in engineering, I believe I got in because of my AIF since my marks were hovering around low 80s.

I also applied to Engineering for admittance in Fall 2008. May I ask, what makes a good AIF?

I've missed the "3 weeks recommendation" due date (last Friday) but still over 3 more weeks until it's officially due. However, I want to hand mine in within the next two days. I've got it all done, but I'm unsure if it's what the admission office wants to read.

[babaji]

It's fine if it's a couple days after the 3 week period. As for what makes a good AIF, why don't you just put what it asks for?

[corrupt123]

It's fine if it's a couple days after the 3 week period. As for what makes a good AIF, why don't you just put what it asks for?

Haha on my Waterloo AIF right after the part where you manually input your classes/marks for the last 2 years, in the comments section, I wrote "Why did I do all this? What the hell is OUAC for?"

I was pretty pissed that they made me get a transscript and input all that damn info again. Pain in the ass. Hehe time to wait and see if I get into Mech Eng :twisted:

[maebach]

Haha on my Waterloo AIF right after the part where you manually input your classes/marks for the last 2 years, in the comments section, I wrote "Why did I do all this? What the hell is OUAC for?"

I was pretty pissed that they made me get a transscript and input all that damn info again. Pain in the ass. Hehe time to wait and see if I get into Mech Eng :twisted:

lol :lol:

[Jon Lai]

Haha on my Waterloo AIF right after the part where you manually input your classes/marks for the last 2 years, in the comments section, I wrote "Why did I do all this? What the hell is OUAC for?"

I was pretty pissed that they made me get a transscript and input all that damn info again. Pain in the ass. Hehe time to wait and see if I get into Mech Eng :twisted:

If you really did that, good luck getting in :lol: :lol:

[babaji]

Haha on my Waterloo AIF right after the part where you manually input your classes/marks for the last 2 years, in the comments section, I wrote "Why did I do all this? What the hell is OUAC for?"

I was pretty pissed that they made me get a transscript and input all that damn info again. Pain in the ass. Hehe time to wait and see if I get into Mech Eng :twisted:

If you manage to get in, I tip my hat to you. You don't really want to get into this program, do you?

[td0t0]

i got accepted to york undecided arts major a week ago....

[just_For_ipod]

yeah, I've heard like 5 of my friends got acceptance into york in the Artsci programs. Nothing from other universities other than one or two from waterloo.

[Dark-Colonel]

yeah, I've heard like 5 of my friends got acceptance into york in the Artsci programs. Nothing from other universities other than one or two from waterloo.

Yeah everyone on my side has gotten into their "backup" programs. I feel bad for the Universities who accept people like them. They will most likely not take the programs if they get into their primary choices.

[jwei]

does anyone know anyone who has received acceptance to mac? On the other hand, I'm guessing my guidance hasn't even sent out final marks of semester one yet....as the OUAC site doesnt show it.

[VorteC]

does anyone know anyone who has received acceptance to mac? On the other hand, I'm guessing my guidance hasn't even sent out final marks of semester one yet....as the OUAC site doesnt show it.

OUAC shouldve sent out all your marks, like GR.11 marks. I got my waterloo acceptance like 2 weeks ago, before I finished my gr.12 first semester, and before I did my AIF.

[blizzah]

does anyone know anyone who has received acceptance to mac? On the other hand, I'm guessing my guidance hasn't even sent out final marks of semester one yet....as the OUAC site doesnt show it.

I don;t think Mac will start sending acceptances until Semester 1 marks are in, which is in a week or so I think.

[Dark-Colonel]

OUAC shouldve sent out all your marks, like GR.11 marks. I got my waterloo acceptance like 2 weeks ago, before I finished my gr.12 first semester, and before I did my AIF.

What program? Well regardless your Grade 11 marks must have been in the high 70s+

[jwei]

Well, in grade 11 my marks were ********, all my fault though. I took all the sciences at the time because I was sure of what my future career would be in (Whether it be sciences, business, or engineering). At midterms, I figured I liked business alot, so I sorta just stop trying in my science courses, in the end it bit my on the arse hard. My first semester average was mid 80's second semester it should've been higher, but because of my lack in trying/caring I brought upon myself two mid 65s. My average dropped to 77 lol. Sorta sucks, as uni's now see that.

[alv077]

I applied to a crap load of schools, all within the same grade range, from around 75+ to low 80s, all for Accounting/Business despite never having taken a single course Business wise in high school (only cause I'm half-decent at math, gave up on the Engineering "dream" after I dropped Chem at midterm and just couldn't stand that crap anymore). I applied to Waterloo; annoys me how I have to fill out that AIF form. I'm wondering for Waterloo, is that Math exam that they put out where they sponsor or make every year (forgot the name, its like this math test you pay to write) something they weigh in? And also what else do they look at? Are extra-curricular things extremely important and looked at a lot (other than close to 300 voluntary hours, and previously having a part-time job for 5-6months, there's nothing else really extra-curricular I've done)? Also...it says its "recommended" I fill that form and submit it within 3 weeks of that email. The Friday past was the 3 weeks, but on the site also, in addition to the recommendated 3 weeks, the due date is March 7th, so I'm fine right? When filling it out (atleast when I was doing the sample form, haven't submitted a good copy yet), there's parts asking for marks of this year's stuff, how am I suppose to fill in the marks for courses I haven't even started and not going to start till my second semester does?

Here's the program I applied to at Waterloo:
http://electronicinfo.ca/en/program-details.php?pcode=205745_190208_304_136

Woohoo, potential AFM'er :)

I'll probably be at the AFMAA helping out ;)

[Adage]

I also applied to Engineering for admittance in Fall 2008. May I ask, what makes a good AIF?

I've missed the "3 weeks recommendation" due date (last Friday) but still over 3 more weeks until it's officially due. However, I want to hand mine in within the next two days. I've got it all done, but I'm unsure if it's what the admission office wants to read.

Recommended due date doesn't mean anything as long as you meet the official due date. I believe the recommended due date has something to do with certain scholarships, but no guarantee on that. I can't really say what makes a good AIF. I wrote it, thought I did a good job, and submitted it. Luckily for me, last year they decided to remove the teacher reference letter lol although I don't think I would have had a bad reference letter, just less of a hassle.

[Jeff18]

When does waterloo send out invites to the AFMAA? I don't have their emails anymore if it was in there.

so far got wlu bba, and uwo acceptances....in case i don't get into AFM
has utsc sent out acceptances?

[corrupt123]

What the hell are all you people applying to to get accepted already?

I applied to Mech Eng @ Waterloo, UofT (SG) and McMaster (McGill too, but thats out of province) and havn't heard a thing. Hell, OUAC doesn't even have my semester 1 marks! I would have thought I'd be getting letters early since I graduated last year and just went back for 1 semester but I have a feeling I wont be hearing anything till late march/april.

[babaji]

What the hell are all you people applying to to get accepted already?

I applied to Mech Eng @ Waterloo, UofT (SG) and McMaster (McGill too, but thats out of province) and havn't heard a thing. Hell, OUAC doesn't even have my semester 1 marks! I would have thought I'd be getting letters early since I graduated last year and just went back for 1 semester but I have a feeling I wont be hearing anything till late march/april.

Some people got accepted to programs, because of high grade 11 marks.

[Dark-Colonel]

Some people got accepted to programs, because of high grade 11 marks.

He has already graduated which means that he must already have at least 6 grade 12 courses. They might be low marks - he has to reply on that one.

I am in the same situation as him. I graduated last year with 6 grade 12 courses (high 70s average) and I haven't heard anything back yet either. I just went back another semester to move my marks into the 80s which already has happened since I got 3 more grade 12 marks with mid 80s. Yet no response!

[thefleet]

hey guys dont worry just yet, its only feb! most offers are in late may, go enjoy last year of high school life ;)

[jwei]

It also depends on which schools you've applied to. I know mac wont sent them out till later.

[Adage]

It also depends on which schools you've applied to. I know mac wont sent them out till later.

Mac will probably send them out by the end of February with the exception of Health Sci. I'm basing this off the fact that last year they sent everyone the acceptances on the same day which was around Feb 27 ish.


What the hell are all you people applying to to get accepted already?

I applied to Mech Eng @ Waterloo, UofT (SG) and McMaster (McGill too, but thats out of province) and havn't heard a thing. Hell, OUAC doesn't even have my semester 1 marks! I would have thought I'd be getting letters early since I graduated last year and just went back for 1 semester but I have a feeling I wont be hearing anything till late march/april.

You're applying for engineering, don't feel bad because they take a while. Early acceptances for engineering won't be this early anyway. Expect early acceptances for them to be around first/second week of April and the rest around mid-May.

[jwei]

Do you know any business commerce people who got accepted to mac in february last year???If so, what was their average at that time, and then what was their final? thanks

[corrupt123]

He has already graduated which means that he must already have at least 6 grade 12 courses. They might be low marks - he has to reply on that one.

Actually, story is that I spread out my grade 12 year (partly because I neglected to even take some courses I needed first semester) so I came back for one semester to get 2 credits I had never taken. I had enough credits to get my OSSD in June of '07 though. Hell, technically I'm enrolled in school now because I'm doing a co-op, but this has zero effect on uni.




You're applying for engineering, don't feel bad because they take a while. Early acceptances for engineering won't be this early anyway. Expect early acceptances for them to be around first/second week of April and the rest around mid-May.

Yeah, thats what I figured and I'm not overly concerned. I just want to know asap, because I'm impatient :D
Plus I figure since they've got finals for my top 6 they should be able to decide earlier then the kids who are just starting the last 2 or 3 courses of their top 6.

[jwei]

hrmm, I want to change programs on the OUAC website, think anything will messup if I do?

[Dark-Colonel]

hrmm, I want to change programs on the OUAC website, think anything will messup if I do?

I have the same question, what would happen if I change a program from the same university?

[Aestas]

I changed my Waterloo application at the beginning of Feb and my application was accepted. I think changing programs is fine unless you applied to one of those really competitive programs.

[NiftyScent]

Hey, I have to hand mail my Schulich application on Tuesday/Wednesday and I need to get to this place:

Undergraduate Programs Unit,
Division of Student Services and International Relations
Schulich School of Business, Room W262
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, Ontario M3J 1P3
CANADA

What bus should I take and from what station (TTC)? Is it hard to find? I dont wanna get lost!

[Cold Fire]

for early acceptance in business do they look at your grade 11 semester 2 and grade 12 semester 1 or is it gr11 semester 1 and 2 and grade 12 semester 1

[Jeff18]

for early acceptance in business do they look at your grade 11 semester 2 and grade 12 semester 1 or is it gr11 semester 1 and 2 and grade 12 semester 1

sem 1 and 2 grade 11 marks are looked at

[quarterlifecrisis]

Good thread, should be stickied or rated 5 stars.

[Aestas]

Will the universities still look at the grade 11 average if you're already done 6 grade 12 courses after first semester? Would I be getting an acceptance as opposed to a conditional (technically I can graduate already)?

[jwei]

No they will not use your grade 11 marks if you have six completed grade 12 marks at cutoff average.


To everyone wondering whether if they do use grade 11 marks, it all depends on which university you apply to. For example, I know McMaster Business doesn't care at all about your grade 11, whereas Western does. You have to look up your program @ the school and your answers will be there

[shaker007]

Hey i have a question regarding utm commerce. If i have a 60% avergae in functions but my overall average just including the university courses in garde 12 is between 77-80% can i get in?? my cources are:
Religion:90
data managment:84
function:60
weight training:90
calculus:this semester..
english:this semsetr...
accounting:this semester...
economics:this semseter

[shaker007]

if i have a 60 percent in functions but and overall average between 77-80 will i still be able to get into utm commerce??

[sPiKyAZN]

Hey i have a question regarding utm commerce. If i have a 60% avergae in functions but my overall average just including the university courses in garde 12 is between 77-80% can i get in?? my cources are:
Religion:90
data managment:84
function:60
weight training:90
calculus:this semester..
english:this semsetr...
accounting:this semester...
economics:this semseter

Most unis don't count open courses so I wouldn't factor in weight-training to your average. Electronicinfo.ca says you need a mid 80 and particular attention paid to English and math. So unless you really step-it up seconed semester you might have a tough time getting in.

[quarterlifecrisis]

Yeah, you'll probably get an offer to Management.

[td0t0]

Hey, I have to hand mail my Schulich application on Tuesday/Wednesday and I need to get to this place:

Undergraduate Programs Unit,
Division of Student Services and International Relations
Schulich School of Business, Room W262
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, Ontario M3J 1P3
CANADA

What bus should I take and from what station (TTC)? Is it hard to find? I dont wanna get lost!

where you comin from? you can take a bus up jane or keele...at york's site they have info on how to get there...

[Dark-Colonel]

Has Anyone applied to Laurier?

I just got a reminder email from them about their ABS form. Its quite disappointing that it has to be completed and submitted via mail. Its not even through the internet!

Anyway I found this quite interesting:

The submission of the ABS Form is not mandatory. However, it will give
you an opportunity for further review of your application if you fall
within 3% of the midterm cut-off for your HIGHEST choice of program at
Laurier.

I honestly never thought that any kind of additional forms would do you any benefit. I did complete Waterloo's AIF but didn't seem important.

[Noir]

Has Anyone applied to Laurier?

I just got a reminder email from them about their ABS form. Its quite disappointing that it has to be completed and submitted via mail. Its not even through the internet!

Anyway I found this quite interesting:

The submission of the ABS Form is not mandatory. However, it will give
you an opportunity for further review of your application if you fall
within 3% of the midterm cut-off for your HIGHEST choice of program at
Laurier.

I honestly never thought that any kind of additional forms would do you any benefit. I did complete Waterloo's AIF but didn't seem important.

I applied to Laurier and got in for the BBA program. I'm too sick of doing supplementaries to even bother, but if I didn't get an offer of admission I probably would have filled it out even though my average was above the cut off... meh.

[earth.razer]

Im in Gr12 with around 94 average, but I didnt not get accepted into UTSG Life Science program or Waterloo math/BBA double major as of now. Does that mean I'm out for early acceptance already?

[Canada_7]

Everyone in here posting about how they have like high 80s and 90s averages amazes me. My combined average I'm expecting it to be like only anywhere from 78-83 (likely going to be somewhere in the middle, not likely to be either extremity).

[VorteC]

Everyone in here posting about how they have like high 80s and 90s averages amazes me. My combined average I'm expecting it to be like only anywhere from 78-83 (likely going to be somewhere in the middle, not likely to be either extremity).

Many people here may be taking easier courses, such as those going to business programs, or goto an easier school. no need to sweat it. with a 80-83 you can get into most schools.

[Canada_7]

Many people here may be taking easier courses, such as those going to business programs, or goto an easier school. no need to sweat it. with a 80-83 you can get into most schools.
Yeah, but like those people are getting like freaking high 90s in like hard courses, like Chem, Physics, or Calculus (my choices are subjective, just using them as examples) and the like. Damn you people are smart. Didn't even bother applying to U of T because they'll laugh at my average and just continue on with the rest of the applications. Though I did apply to another "big name" school in Waterloo, and perhaps Western (don't know if it's considered a "big name" school) because Waterloo's grade requirement for the program I applied to was a low to mid 80s, which was possible for me, and the program at Western needed an 80:lol: .

[jwei]

apparently mcmaster has upgraded cutoffs?

Commerce = 85%
Life Sciences = 87%
Nursing = 87%
Kin = 86%

this is from the march break tours info...

[corrupt123]

apparently mcmaster has upgraded cutoffs?

Commerce = 85%
Life Sciences = 87%
Nursing = 87%
Kin = 86%

this is from the march break tours info...

I could believe the Kin part... A lot of people I know, along with about 50% the graduating class of a friend of mine (literally, it was crazy) all went into/applied for Kin this and/or last year. A good chunk of them applied to/got into Mac too.

[Jon Lai]

apparently mcmaster has upgraded cutoffs?

Commerce = 85%
Life Sciences = 87%
Nursing = 87%
Kin = 86%

this is from the march break tours info...

Wow, never knew life sci was that high! I thought it was always mid 80s. Thats like high 80s!

[jwei]

yeah actually sorry that was misleading...i was surprised as well. those cutoffs are for early acceptance applicants only.

[babaji]

apparently mcmaster has upgraded cutoffs?

Commerce = 85%
Life Sciences = 87%
Nursing = 87%
Kin = 86%

this is from the march break tours info...

interesting, are these gr11 final marks or your gr12 first-term marks?

[jwei]

NEW UPDATE: I emailed Mcmaster about the marks, they said they will not change

[quarterlifecrisis]

apparently mcmaster has upgraded cutoffs?

Commerce = 85%
Life Sciences = 87%
Nursing = 87%
Kin = 86%

this is from the march break tours info...

God, Life Sciences at 87% What's HealthSci then.....105%?!?!?!

[cashman91]

God, Life Sciences at 87% What's HealthSci then.....105%?!?!?!

are u crazy its 107% get your facts straight:lol:

[sPiKyAZN]

Has Anyone applied to Laurier?

I just got a reminder email from them about their ABS form. Its quite disappointing that it has to be completed and submitted via mail. Its not even through the internet!

Anyway I found this quite interesting:

The submission of the ABS Form is not mandatory. However, it will give
you an opportunity for further review of your application if you fall
within 3% of the midterm cut-off for your HIGHEST choice of program at
Laurier.

I honestly never thought that any kind of additional forms would do you any benefit. I did complete Waterloo's AIF but didn't seem important.

The entire Schulich app was through the mail as well. On top of that Queens was online, but only allowed you something like 8am-8pm to work on it.

[Jon Lai]

NEW UPDATE: I emailed Mcmaster about the marks, they said they will not change

You mean between early and late acceptances?

[jwei]

You mean between early and late acceptances?

Yeah, they said its a extremely strong "estimate" still but they said it should not change.


On another note, for people who've been accepted into Ryerson, did you get it via Choose>Ryerson portal first? Or email/mail?

[NiftyScent]

Curious,

When Universities look at your top 6 average, are your finals weighed more than your midterms?

Ie. are your first semester finals more critical then your second term midterms?

I slacked first semester/took biology (which I found boring and therefore didn't do that great in) but pushed real hard on my second semester.

Semester 1 FINALS
English - 86
Biology - 87
Advanced Functions - 95

Semester 2 (Current marks, midterm a month away)
Calculus - 98-99
Data Management - 96
Guitar - 97-98

All are U courses except Guitar which is a M course.

[Jon Lai]

Curious,

When Universities look at your top 6 average, are your finals weighed more than your midterms?

Ie. are your first semester finals more critical then your second term midterms?

I slacked first semester/took biology (which I found boring and therefore didn't do that great in) but pushed real hard on my second semester.

Semester 1 FINALS
English - 86
Biology - 87
Advanced Functions - 95

Semester 2 (Current marks, midterm a month away)
Calculus - 98-99
Data Management - 96
Guitar - 97-98

All are U courses except Guitar which is a M course.

Don't see why you would need to worry. You don't even look like a science person, so I don't think Bio will hurt you anyways. Unless of course, your high school is known to give easy marks in math (like the ones you have there).

[flash2008]

When do teachers hand in second semester midterms btw? does anyone have a specific date?

[jwei]

well our midterms are due the 15th, meaning teachers should have to have it in by the 10th...that means 13 days of pushing it until relaxationn:razz:

[Jon Lai]

When do teachers hand in second semester midterms btw? does anyone have a specific date?

Your school agenda should have that information.

[NiftyScent]

well our midterms are due the 15th, meaning teachers should have to have it in by the 10th...that means 13 days of pushing it until relaxationn:razz:
Term 3 ends on the 14th and Term 4 starts on the 15th for us.

14 more days!

[slash-beowulf]

Hey I was wondering, entrance scholarships like Merit/President's, are they based on the april marks or final?

[Canada_7]

I hope someone has the answer to this question quickly, posted the same thing in the UTM Management thread also, sorta desperate for an answer:

Does anyone know when is the due date for applications for both BCom at UTM, and BBA (Management, both Co-op and Non-Co-op) at UTSC :lol: (yes I know it's really late to ask this question)? If they haven't passed, I might apply there for this reason: my mid-term mark might be inflated enough that I may stand a chance to get into those programs :lol: .

[jwei]

I hope someone has the answer to this question quickly, posted the same thing in the UTM Management thread also, sorta desperate for an answer:

Does anyone know when is the due date for applications for both BCom at UTM, and BBA (Management, both Co-op and Non-Co-op) at UTSC :lol: (yes I know it's really late to ask this question)? If they haven't passed, I might apply there for this reason: my mid-term mark might be inflated enough that I may stand a chance to get into those programs :lol: .

do this asap...

login to your ouac account, select choice/offers.... go to add program. look whichever up. now when you find it, it should give you the program name, and code for the program (for example, ryerson business management is SBE), so in your case UTM, commerce, i think is TME, and beside it there should just be an empty space, if there is then you're set. just delete whatever program you are taking out and add the new one and it should be free of cost.

HOWEVER, some uni's are no longer accepting applications for certain programs (examples can be mcmaster with health sciences, or schulich for BBA), beside the program code, it will say in bright red letters "Closed", meaning its no longer accepting applications.

So yeah, thats all there is to it. If you are really worried just to double check, give the admissions office a call (not ouac but the school for which you're applying to). I went through the whole process of emailing + calling ouac and Ryerson to double check everything before applying.

Good luck!

[2door]

Im in Gr12 with around 94 average, but I didnt not get accepted into UTSG Life Science program or Waterloo math/BBA double major as of now. Does that mean I'm out for early acceptance already?

Yes, for UofT LifeSci UTSG it means that you did not get in with the first round early acceptances. Did you apply to Trin? Otherwise I don't see why you did not get early acceptance. Anyways, with 94% you will get into UofT for sure. You just won't have the "early acceptance" bragging rights. But that really does not matter and nobody will care a few months down the road about who got and who didn't get early acceptance, as long as they got in.

As far as I know Wateloo math is waiting for the Euclid results and there is a cut-off. Hopefully you are aware that you have to take the Euclid test on April 15th?

[Dark-Colonel]

well our midterms are due the 15th, meaning teachers should have to have it in by the 10th...that means 13 days of pushing it until relaxationn:razz:

What? For my school midterms are due on the 20th or so and reports cards are given on the 28th of April. Which is the same day the marks get submitted to OUAC.

[Jon Lai]

What? For my school midterms are due on the 20th or so and reports cards are given on the 28th of April. Which is the same day the marks get submitted to OUAC.

The 20th of April is a Sunday.. lol? My school - marks due the 18th - the Friday before your Sunday. :P

[Dark-Colonel]

The 20th of April is a Sunday.. lol? My school - marks due the 18th - the Friday before your Sunday. :P

lol I did say or so. Yeah my friends told me its the 20th of April.

Every extra day is absolutely vital :D

[sPiKyAZN]

lol I did say or so. Yeah my friends told me its the 20th of April.

Every extra day is absolutely vital :D

lol I don't know how much longer I can hold my average it feels like the floodgates are gonna burst open any second and my average will tank like 10% :(

[maebach]

while applying to UTSG Commerce and Finance program, why do they want us to rank colleges? Its for the TAC program.

[NiftyScent]

Does anyone know (generally) how many percent of the offers go out before 2nd midterm/after 2nd midterm (I go to a semestered school)?

[Dark-Colonel]

Does anyone know (generally) how many percent of the offers go out before 2nd midterm/after 2nd midterm (I go to a semestered school)?

Its hard to say but its most likely not that high. Very few people get offers before 2nd midterms based on their Grade 11s. Do note that in order to receive early admission, all 8 of your grade 11 marks have to be above 80.

I had a mid 70s average for all my grade 11 courses and I didn't get an offer. Asked my guidance why and that was her answer.

[sPiKyAZN]

Its hard to say but its most likely not that high. Very few people get offers before 2nd midterms based on their Grade 11s. Do note that in order to receive early admission, all 8 of your grade 11 marks have to be above 80.

I had a mid 70s average for all my grade 11 courses and I didn't get an offer. Asked my guidance why and that was her answer.

I only had about 6/8 of my gr11 courses in 80s and I managed a few offers. It all depends on the program. Most of them pay more attention to your 1st semester marks anyways.

My guidance dept keeps saying these early acceptances are abnormal and just lucky...but judging from the amount of acceptances I've seen handed out I think they're either behind the times or trying to make the other students feel better.

In the end it really doesn't matter when you get accepted anyways. I don't care if I get accepted in my programs in Feb or May 27th. It's stupid to stop trying once you get accepted because if your average drops by a lot you can lose your conditional offer and a lot of scholarship money (2nd reason is why I'm busting my ass till the end...free money rocks!)

[neil_r03]

from what it looks like to me they barely care cuz i had a 68 and 69 in bio and chem in grade 11 and i still got accepted like 3 weeks ago into the waterloo life science where they said u need like a 80. If you have a good average for first semester grade 12 and depending on the competitiveness of the program you shouldn't be to worried.

[Aestas]

Agreed. My first semester grades more than made up for my gr11 grades which included a 60 in math and a 50 in French. I still managed to get a few offers.

[Badrush]

I am working towards a 90 avg:
All Gr 12 U Level Classes:
Physics: 91
Chemistry: 96 :cheesygri
Biology: 91
Advanced Functions: 93
Calculus: This semester
Earth & Space: This Semester
English: 85

-And those were all IB taught classes too (except physics)
- Physics i took during summer school, but i got a 70 the first time (hardest teacher ever) and so i retook it and got a 91 but waterloo will drop off a percent from my avg for that, so its like i got 85 in it...so now i just need a 90 in my calc class....or i can substitute my bio with E&S science if that turns out to be a higher mark

I applied for Chemical/Civil Engineering to Waterloo Queens and Windsor

I was accepted into Windsor in Jan, and I just finished the Waterloo AIF last weekend, and havent heard anything from Waterloo or Queens-not worried though

[VorteC]

I am working towards a 90 avg:
All Gr 12 U Level Classes:
Physics: 91
Chemistry: 96 :cheesygri
Biology: 91
Advanced Functions: 93
Calculus: This semester
Earth & Space: This Semester
English: 85

-And those were all IB taught classes too (except physics)
- Physics i took during summer school, but i got a 70 the first time (hardest teacher ever) and so i retook it and got a 91 but waterloo will drop off a percent from my avg for that, so its like i got 85 in it...so now i just need a 90 in my calc class....or i can substitute my bio with E&S science if that turns out to be a higher mark

I applied for Chemical/Civil Engineering to Waterloo Queens and Windsor

I was accepted into Windsor in Jan, and I just finished the Waterloo AIF last weekend, and havent heard anything from Waterloo or Queens-not worried though

I had a high-80s avg and got accepted to Waterloo & Queen's Mechanical Engineering in mid March.. right before march break (partied hard during march break :D )

[Badrush]

I had a high-80s avg and got accepted to Waterloo & Queen's Mechanical Engineering in mid March.. right before march break (partied hard during march break :D )


Really? good for u? where did u end up going? and i thought mechanical engineering was really hard to get into at waterloo...90 avg was the cutoff rate? or maybe im thinking of mechatronics? anyways, congrats, and id love to be able to relax but i cant, i need to do really well in that calc class cuz im trying to get a 90 avg for scholarships, and im sooo sooo close

[VorteC]

Really? good for u? where did u end up going? and i thought mechanical engineering was really hard to get into at waterloo...90 avg was the cutoff rate? or maybe im thinking of mechatronics? anyways, congrats, and id love to be able to relax but i cant, i need to do really well in that calc class cuz im trying to get a 90 avg for scholarships, and im sooo sooo close

I ended up at UW. I think I got accepted into UT Mech Eng as well in March.

The cutoff for Mech Eng @ loo for my year was like.. 84-85 ish. The 'tronics cutoff was like 86-87. I could've gone for tronics but I don't like programming.

BTW, if you get a scholarship with your offer... like "You have been awarded the President's Award (90%)", you don't have to keep the 90% avg for final to keep the scholarship. You just have to meet their minimum condition.

Say in March, your Grade 12 semester-1 final + semester-2 midterms are over 90%, you will get the 90% scholarship with your offer. If in May, your average drops to 83%, you still keep that 90% scholarship..

[Jon Lai]

I ended up at UW. I think I got accepted into UT Mech Eng as well in March.

The cutoff for Mech Eng @ loo for my year was like.. 84-85 ish. The 'tronics cutoff was like 86-87. I could've gone for tronics but I don't like programming.

BTW, if you get a scholarship with your offer... like "You have been awarded the President's Award (90%)", you don't have to keep the 90% avg for final to keep the scholarship. You just have to meet their minimum condition.

Say in March, your Grade 12 semester-1 final + semester-2 midterms are over 90%, you will get the 90% scholarship with your offer. If in May, your average drops to 83%, you still keep that 90% scholarship..

Are you sure about that?

I worked so hard to retain the 90% last year since I got the scholarship after mid-term...

[hi-everyone]

I ended up at UW. I think I got accepted into UT Mech Eng as well in March.

The cutoff for Mech Eng @ loo for my year was like.. 84-85 ish. The 'tronics cutoff was like 86-87. I could've gone for tronics but I don't like programming.

BTW, if you get a scholarship with your offer... like "You have been awarded the President's Award (90%)", you don't have to keep the 90% avg for final to keep the scholarship. You just have to meet their minimum condition.

Say in March, your Grade 12 semester-1 final + semester-2 midterms are over 90%, you will get the 90% scholarship with your offer. If in May, your average drops to 83%, you still keep that 90% scholarship..

What if it was the opposite? Say you had 89 by sem 2 midterm but at the end you end up with a 90. Do you still get the president scholarship?

[Jon Lai]

What if it was the opposite? Say you had 89 by sem 2 midterm but at the end you end up with a 90. Do you still get the president scholarship?

Yes, my friends have earned it this way before.

[VorteC]

Are you sure about that?

I worked so hard to retain the 90% last year since I got the scholarship after mid-term...

Yes I'm sure. They cannot revoke a scholarship after it has been awarded to you. All you had to do was meet the minimum admission requirements (75%)

[Orracle]

What happens if you re-take a course to pull the average up. For example, I got a mark in the 70s in Math, and would like to re-take the course next year to bring up the average. Will the universities drop my previous math mark or average out both marks?

Thanks!

[EAMAY]

I am working towards a 90 avg:
All Gr 12 U Level Classes:
Physics: 91
Chemistry: 96 :cheesygri
Biology: 91
Advanced Functions: 93
Calculus: This semester
Earth & Space: This Semester
English: 85

-And those were all IB taught classes too (except physics)
- Physics i took during summer school, but i got a 70 the first time (hardest teacher ever) and so i retook it and got a 91 but waterloo will drop off a percent from my avg for that, so its like i got 85 in it...so now i just need a 90 in my calc class....or i can substitute my bio with E&S science if that turns out to be a higher mark

I applied for Chemical/Civil Engineering to Waterloo Queens and Windsor

I was accepted into Windsor in Jan, and I just finished the Waterloo AIF last weekend, and havent heard anything from Waterloo or Queens-not worried though

Are you sure about this??? I havent read that anywhere, can anybody confirm this?

[BlueHurley]

Are you sure about this??? I havent read that anywhere, can anybody confirm this?

yes they do take off 1 percent of your overall average

[Jon Lai]

Are you sure about this??? I havent read that anywhere, can anybody confirm this?

Yes they do. It ends up being a 6% decrease on your retaken course.

[imppy]

Any input on gr 12 courses taken in a previous year other than your current year courses? Are these courses previously taken considered the same way when calculating your final admission average?

[flamez1000]

Hiya, I am a gr 12 student, and, like countless others, am trying to get into the health sciences program at Mcmaster. Firstly, does Mac take pre-requisites into consideration for admission? Second, do you think I have a chance with the following marks (some are projected)?

Religion (catholic school) - 95
Philosophy - 97
Bio (HARD teacher) - 87
Chem - 93
History - 97
Data - 95
English - 93

What about ECs and volunteering? I haven't done too much of either.




Ok, here is some more info. that I could'nt add because I was running late for class.

Volunteering - the required 40 hours at my previous (elementary) school, planted trees a couple of days with Evergreen, volunteered at the Scott Mission homeless shelter a few days, and a bunch of other small random things (student leader supervising a gr.9 ecology trip, helped with gr.8 orientation, school photo days, etc.)

EC - took part in CSUNA (catholic schools united nations assembly) this year, participated in Thinkfast (all day fast to raise hunger awareness), gr.10 boys soccer team, volleyball team gr 9. Havent joined any clubs or anything, im a lazy kid...

Other: 2 out of 3 years highest average in the grade (gr 9 and gr 11). honour roll since elementary. numerous other subject awards (highest marks in the subject).

Umm...thats about all i can think of right now, ill add more when i remember


Questions:
data management was only offered first semester at my school, so i cant take it second semester. the only option i have is to take it in night school next semester...will this hurt my chances of getting accepted? will Mcmaster even receive my midterm night school mark, because without it, i wont have a math credit.

[Aznsilvrboy]

Hiya, I am a gr 12 student, and, like countless others, am trying to get into the health sciences program at Mcmaster. Firstly, does Mac take pre-requisites into consideration for admission? Second, do you think I have a chance with the following marks (some are projected)?

Religion (catholic school) - 95
Philosophy - 97
Bio (HARD teacher) - 87
Chem - 93
History - 97
Data - 95
English - 93

What about ECs and volunteering? I haven't done too much of either.

Every school take the pre-requisites into consideration, as a part of your "top 6" (although the pre-requisites may not necessarily be your top marks). Anyway, I'd say you have a very good chance of getting into any problem with those marks, provided that the pre-requisites are fulfilled.

[windforcexx28]

Hiya, I am a gr 12 student, and, like countless others, am trying to get into the health sciences program at Mcmaster. Firstly, does Mac take pre-requisites into consideration for admission? Second, do you think I have a chance with the following marks (some are projected)?

Religion (catholic school) - 95
Philosophy - 97
Bio (HARD teacher) - 87
Chem - 93
History - 97
Data - 95
English - 93

What about ECs and volunteering? I haven't done too much of either.

You have good chances with getting into HS at mac.

However, I knew friends that did not get into HS with really high averages.. and some that got in with just 90.. so a bit of luck is needed. I'd say you should get some ECs to improve your application. Good luck :razz:

[ThomasH]

Do you guys think I'll be able to get into wilfrid laurier or western for BA in kinesiology?
I'm an average student, but I messed up and am only getting 60% in bio at mid term.
I think (hope) my marks will look something like:
85-90 Computer Science
85 Mixed media
85 Data management (hard/bad teacher but a nice guy)
70 Biology

Next sem:
bad (60ish?) in U level religion unless I can get a different teacher
85 Exercise Science
75-80 English
85-90 Communications technology