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hello1214
Aug 20th, 2007, 05:31 PM
since there isnt one or i dont see one right now

hello1214
Aug 20th, 2007, 07:30 PM
if anyone has any questions just ask

ab174
Aug 21st, 2007, 02:07 PM
What is the best way of commuting from Scarborough to WLU and back? Need to come home once or twice a month.

LNahid2000
Aug 21st, 2007, 02:28 PM
This thread was so much better last year.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=323787

hello1214
Aug 23rd, 2007, 12:30 AM
that it was guess not many rfder going this year

well cheapest way to go wlu to scarborough is the greyhound 13.67 one way to toronto then ttc the rest of the way

so what courses are ppl taking and what res staying in? like football? or even if you dont =P you should come check out the opening game on sep 3 at 2pm

if you can try and take morgensens ps100 psych class...one of the coolest old guys out there

maebach
Aug 24th, 2007, 12:02 AM
Ive been reading, and it seems people ahve turned down Schulich for Laurier. IS Laurier's business close to Schulich? People said SChulich is really hard, so Lauriers degree is good and its more chill. Are partys good?

hello1214
Aug 24th, 2007, 03:39 AM
schulich is overrated...yeah Laurier is good and more chill...parties are great

Valek
Aug 24th, 2007, 09:03 AM
This O-Week is gonna be wicked ****! I'm psyched for heading to Breaker Camp next weekend. :D

Jabb
Aug 24th, 2007, 12:13 PM
What is the best way of commuting from Scarborough to WLU and back? Need to come home once or twice a month.

as mentioned above, greyhound then ttc or have someone pick you up at the greyhound station at bay and dundas

RayK
Aug 24th, 2007, 01:57 PM
that it was guess not many rfder going this year

well cheapest way to go wlu to scarborough is the greyhound 13.67 one way to toronto then ttc the rest of the way

so what courses are ppl taking and what res staying in? like football? or even if you dont =P you should come check out the opening game on sep 3 at 2pm

if you can try and take morgensens ps100 psych class...one of the coolest old guys out there

Are you on the football team? i might come out if my cousin is playing....

rey1867
Aug 24th, 2007, 05:51 PM
anyone here know if the online job application site for laurier students is worth using ???

i mean, do they bother to look through the applications ??

thx

Mendesb
Aug 24th, 2007, 06:06 PM
technically you are not right. The RFD way is to find someone at Wateloo Uni who kinda looks like you, and you get a direct bus to STC for 10$ or less

Thussy
Aug 24th, 2007, 06:13 PM
Schulich BBA is overrated and there is no co-op option.

We also have a BBA+Computer Science and BBA+Math (with UofW).

The BBA at WLU is growing fast in popularity. Through co-op I've realized this, as a lot of companies out there go to WLU exclusively for their co-ops because we're supposedly well-rounded (not anal?).

I've enjoyed BBA, but at times I question the quality of some of our professors. Not saying it's the best in Canada (although it could be - IVEY and Queens are well respected also), but I'd rank it higher than Schulich. We're definitely cheaper than Queens and IVEY when it comes to tuition - so the best deal out there :lol: .

Mendesb
Aug 24th, 2007, 10:07 PM
in first year (im in second) my roomate actually declined schulich for it. He said 2 big reasons is 1. this school has co-op option, and two schulich area is terrible.

siuder
Aug 25th, 2007, 01:47 PM
First year BBA :cheesygri

Sniper001
Aug 25th, 2007, 04:34 PM
What kind of average you need to get into Laurier's Business program? (Random question, lol.)

Dota
Aug 25th, 2007, 04:57 PM
In the year that I entered (the double cohort) it was about 88. I think it's since dropped quite a bit

Sniper001
Aug 25th, 2007, 05:04 PM
You like the program there? I will be heading into my senior year in high school this coming September, I was thinking about applying there. Good/bad idea?

Also, would I need to take any Science courses? (Chem,Bio,Physics.) And what Math's would I need? (Thanks for the fast reply by the way, appreciate it.)

siuder
Aug 25th, 2007, 05:23 PM
I got in with an 88.3 but I think the cutoff was 85 or 86.

arnyk
Aug 25th, 2007, 09:33 PM
First year BBA :cheesygri

+1!! What rez??

Mendesb
Aug 26th, 2007, 08:36 AM
laurier place is by far the best. Try and get into Conestoga (within laurier place, there are like 5 different buildings with one common key.) There is a common gazebo for ppl to chill. Conestoga is almost like a house. Each "unit" has 4 people. There are THREE floors within each unit. Kitchen, 2 bedrooms, 2 washrooms, closet HUGE familly room.

From my experiance, there were a lot of easy white girls around there. Also there happened to be a lot of the hockey girls team there too. weird.. Also a LOT of the indian guys happened to be there. (im indian) Ther were 8 of us in 2 units... (5ppl per unit... dont ask we got screwed) and no one knew each other and i have a portugese last name) Dont ask how it happened, no one knows.

LP is the closest to the business building which is where you will be going a lot (assuming ur in BBA or even taking business courses)

rey1867
Aug 26th, 2007, 08:16 PM
to anyone whos in the bba program

are there a lot of co op jobs available ???

mihaku
Aug 27th, 2007, 10:26 AM
to anyone whos in the bba program

are there a lot of co op jobs available ???

I'm in 2nd year bba. Doing my co-op term right now in accounting. And i can't lie to you, getting a co-op job is easy, getting a good job is a fight! It depends on how confident you are, how high your grades are, how well packed your resume is, how good your interview skill is, how your cover letter is. Alot of ppl send out 30 resumes and don't get any back. Some ppl send 4 our and get 4 replies back. So it depends. It also depends on what job ur looking for. If ur looking into HR, Marketing, Opeartions job.. they are a 'bit' (only a bit) more relaxed. If your looking into Accounting and Finance jobs.. you better be ready to make an impression. Either with ur grades, ur charms ..etc.

-mihaku

rey1867
Aug 27th, 2007, 10:49 AM
I'm in 2nd year bba. Doing my co-op term right now in accounting. And i can't lie to you, getting a co-op job is easy, getting a good job is a fight! It depends on how confident you are, how high your grades are, how well packed your resume is, how good your interview skill is, how your cover letter is. Alot of ppl send out 30 resumes and don't get any back. Some ppl send 4 our and get 4 replies back. So it depends. It also depends on what job ur looking for. If ur looking into HR, Marketing, Opeartions job.. they are a 'bit' (only a bit) more relaxed. If your looking into Accounting and Finance jobs.. you better be ready to make an impression. Either with ur grades, ur charms ..etc.

-mihaku

do all the big 4 accounting companies hire at wlu co-op ??

if so, how many co op jobs do they usually give out ?

oh and what was ur gpa in first year ??

turdfergs
Aug 27th, 2007, 11:44 AM
do all the big 4 accounting companies hire at wlu co-op ??

if so, how many co op jobs do they usually give out ?

oh and what was ur gpa in first year ??

I went to WLU and did the BBA + Co-op option for 2 years before moving to UWO to do business at Ivey. However, I did have many friends that stayed in the co-op program.

It is tough to get a job, but not impossible, while I was there I would say that 50-60% of people got placed in co-op jobs through WLU, while others had to rely on outside sources/contacts to get a job.

All four accounting firms do come to Laurier though, and I would say that they are the largest recruiters. If you are interested in accounting, I'm fairly confident that you will get a job. At Western, they were hiring everybody that interviewed, and many people got multiple offers from different firms.

As for the quality of the professors, that was one of the main reasons I left. First year is great, you get Laurier's best business profs who also teach the MBAs. Second year was where I saw the huge drop-off in quality. There were a lot of profs from overseas who were very smart and well qualified, but didn't teach well.

I would however, still recommend it over Schulich, just for the fact that it is not in the city. The university experience is so much better if you are away from home and I recommend that to everyone who is deciding whether to stay home, or live away.

Hope this helps.

rey1867
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:17 PM
I went to WLU and did the BBA + Co-op option for 2 years before moving to UWO to do business at Ivey. However, I did have many friends that stayed in the co-op program.

It is tough to get a job, but not impossible, while I was there I would say that 50-60% of people got placed in co-op jobs through WLU, while others had to rely on outside sources/contacts to get a job.

All four accounting firms do come to Laurier though, and I would say that they are the largest recruiters. If you are interested in accounting, I'm fairly confident that you will get a job. At Western, they were hiring everybody that interviewed, and many people got multiple offers from different firms.

As for the quality of the professors, that was one of the main reasons I left. First year is great, you get Laurier's best business profs who also teach the MBAs. Second year was where I saw the huge drop-off in quality. There were a lot of profs from overseas who were very smart and well qualified, but didn't teach well.

I would however, still recommend it over Schulich, just for the fact that it is not in the city. The university experience is so much better if you are away from home and I recommend that to everyone who is deciding whether to stay home, or live away.

Hope this helps.

thx a lot for posting this info

btw, what was your gpa when you transferred to ivey ??

also when you say they hired everyone from western, do you mean after they completed their degree or as interns during 3rd and 4th year ?

from what ive heard, ivey is very good for people interested in investment banking.

turdfergs
Aug 27th, 2007, 02:56 PM
thx a lot for posting this info

btw, what was your gpa when you transferred to ivey ??

also when you say they hired everyone from western, do you mean after they completed their degree or as interns during 3rd and 4th year ?

from what ive heard, ivey is very good for people interested in investment banking.

After my two years at Laurier I was at 10.5 (out of 12). I actually started Laurier in the Honours Economics program as I slacked too much in high school that I couldn't get into the BBA. The first year of Econ is the same as the BBA, and I did well enough to switch into the BBA after my first year.

From my experience, I knew a lot of people who did really well in high school +90% that had a rough time in University (60-70% averages). I think success in university has to do with one's maturity level and luckily I smartened up just in time.

At Western, I'm referring to 4th year, full-time positions in accounting, but I know people were pretty successful at getting summer internships at accounting firms as well.

I say if you're interested in Ivey, Laurier isn't a bad route to go. The reason being is that at Western, if you don't get into Ivey right from high school you go into ACS, but then you are pretty much competing with everyone there for a chance to get into Ivey in third year. At another school, there isn't as much competition.

Ivey is better known for Consulting and I-Banking, with all the big Canadian and US firms hiring there. There is definitely a stigma around those that don't go into consulting and banking though.

I actually ended up in I-Banking, and I have to say that if it weren't for Ivey, I wouldn't have even known what it was, so if you are considering banking I would recommend Ivey and Queens as your best choices for landing a job.

hello1214
Aug 27th, 2007, 09:10 PM
*deletes the non laurier stuff*

rey1867
Aug 28th, 2007, 10:23 AM
@turdferg, your gpa is pretty high

how much did you study ?

i mean in terms of hours.

turdfergs
Aug 28th, 2007, 03:40 PM
@turdferg, your gpa is pretty high

how much did you study ?

i mean in terms of hours.

Everybody is different. I was a last minute person and typically began studying 3-4 days before an exam, any longer and I wouldn't remember the material. You just need to be able to identify your learning style.

As for my GPA, I was quite happy with it, although my stupid electives dragged it down. In my experience, it was a lot easier to do well in the business/econ related courses than in the essay writing courses (Political Science, Communication Studies, etc.).

sickness
Aug 28th, 2007, 06:23 PM
i want to go to this school for business but i was wondering what pre-equisites do i need and what type of avg is the lowest they'll accept?

thanks and God Bless!

huzai90
Aug 28th, 2007, 08:03 PM
I'm going for first year economics...ended up in st.Agatha townhouses in laurier place... they seem pretty cool

I would say aim for a 86-87+ if u want to get into BBA...u need english and calc

hello1214
Aug 28th, 2007, 10:57 PM
high 80s...if cant get that high then just go for econ cause its the same first year courses anyways and if you can get your gpa high you can switch over no problem and only need probably low to mid 80s to get in..still cant get your grades that high then probably dont want to get in the program but if you still do just apply as some random arts like history or geography or something like that and you can still take the bus courses and switch over if your gpa if good enough

mihaku
Aug 29th, 2007, 05:38 PM
high 80s...if cant get that high then just go for econ cause its the same first year courses anyways and if you can get your gpa high you can switch over no problem and only need probably low to mid 80s to get in..still cant get your grades that high then probably dont want to get in the program but if you still do just apply as some random arts like history or geography or something like that and you can still take the bus courses and switch over if your gpa if good enough


I just want to note that the switch IS NOT EASY! it's easier to get a high mark in highschool and get into BBA from highschool! The diffculty of the switch depends on other people in your year. IF alot of BBA drops out, then u get lucky, the switch is easier. IF everyone does well in BBA and stays than your pretty much out of luck.

And to answer an earlier question. The BIG FOUR do hire from Laurier. They usually take about 30ish people, that's the total the big 4 will take. But it's not all about getting into the big 4. if u get in it's great, but if u don't you can apply for mid size firms. GT, DMCT, PKF HILL, BDO.. they are all mid size firms and will provide you with more expirence. The different between getting in to a big firm and midsize-small firm is that you get to learn more. Reason being that you r giving more responsiblities in smaller firms. The bigger firms, there's just too much at stake becuase their client's are big, the amount of money your dealing with is bigger. COmpared to a 3000-4000 error that you could make in a smaller firm, if you make an error in a big firm it could cost millions. You learn a lot lot more in smaller firms and really it's the best place to start out. The big firms is for the prestige, the name. and definately it's important to work there during your career. But u want to gain more expirence in smaller firms and then go to the big firms. And to be honest if your looking into accounting, once you've had expirence working in a CA firm, any firms will hire you. The swtich is easy once you get ur foot in the door.

I hope this helps. Just study alot, party alot, university is fun! it'll be great.

Mendesb
Aug 29th, 2007, 07:37 PM
last year a LOT of people dropped out of BBA... I would know 90% of my floor dropped out and they were in BBA prog well most of them were

LuuC
Aug 30th, 2007, 02:41 AM
So is Wilfrid Laurier really more of a business school?
How's the Psych program there?

LNahid2000
Aug 30th, 2007, 11:33 AM
last year a LOT of people dropped out of BBA... I would know 90% of my floor dropped out and they were in BBA prog well most of them were
This is true. Three of the 5 people (including me) in my business group dropped out by the end of the year. Only one dropped out because of bad marks though. This other girl and I dropped out because we just didn't like business.

xXCaRnAgE
Sep 1st, 2007, 07:41 PM
hey, i was wondering what would be the cheapest way to get from Laurier to Mississauga?? (I live around Erin Mills Town Center so the closer to home the better). Should I take train or bus, or both?? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks.

Loomy
Sep 1st, 2007, 08:12 PM
So is Wilfrid Laurier really more of a business school?
How's the Psych program there?

Its more of a school to have sex with girls

adehbone
Sep 1st, 2007, 08:30 PM
Just finished my first co-op term. WLU is a great school, if you work and bring the "whole package" get into co-op, very easy to get a job.

I considered the Ivey leap too, but decided I do not want to leave WLU and am ok with not having a shot at working in NYC for goldman. Gettinga a 10.5 in first year ain't that difficult at all.

I spent the summer at f100 in corp finance, so if anyone has questions about that I can answer, I interviewed with the accounting firms, ate the steaks, got the nice gifts but when it came time to "drink the kool-aid" for the CA i ran fast...sure glad I did :).

Btw, I worked with Shulich people and I would not say it stinks and is below WLU, alot of the top part of the class at SSB are supastars.

Mendesb
Sep 1st, 2007, 09:15 PM
WLU tends to have "easy white girls" which hapen to ben in psyc or communications. Also Greyhound is pretty cheap, but the CHEAPEST way is if u have a friend in waterloo and they dont mind lending you their WAT card. With this, you can go on their busses and it takes you straight to SQ1

arnyk
Sep 2nd, 2007, 04:11 PM
Tomorrow is move-in!!!!! :cheesygri

Mendesb
Sep 2nd, 2007, 04:53 PM
really? oh lol if any of you want to buy my books, we can work something out. inbetween what bookstore would give me, and would sell you

eg: BU111 they would buy from me for 40$ and they would sell used for 60$ and sell bnib for 80$

then I sell for 50$ i think that sounds fair?

Kero_1116
Sep 6th, 2007, 12:23 PM
I have a co-op interview soon as I am going to second year BBA. I was wondering if anyone is willing to help me to increase my chance of getting into the program.

Thanks.

Error916
Sep 7th, 2007, 07:13 PM
Hey LNahid2000, just curious, what program did you switch into?
I am in first year business and not liking it as well heh, is this very common people drop out of business? Are Laurier credits easy to transfer?
I find it that its harder to switch using your university marks then highschool, and most of us will waste a year :(.

LNahid2000
Sep 7th, 2007, 07:21 PM
I switched into WLU's Economics and Accounting program. Transferring credits was not an issue for me since BBA and Econ have the same requirements first year. If you want to switch into another program at WLU, you just need to have the prereqs for the program.

hello1214
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:03 PM
considering the year has just started and classes havent even started yet im not sure where you are basing your opinion on..

adehbone
Sep 10th, 2007, 04:14 PM
lame dude...with your marks you should have been in finance and econ. Are you going for a CA?

You should not consider switching till you take a full term of BU111, see if there is any function of business you like.

If anyone wants pointers on co-op interviewing, feel free to ask here to pm me.

LNahid2000
Sep 11th, 2007, 12:08 AM
lame dude...with your marks you should have been in finance and econ. Are you going for a CA?
The only reason I picked Economics and Accounting is because it is identical to the Econ and Finance program until 4th year, except that Econ+Acct has 2 extra accounting courses. In 4th year I can switch from Accounting to Finance if I wanted, but I can't the other way around unless I took those 3rd year accounting courses as electives. Nothing is set in stone.

Valek
Sep 12th, 2007, 10:08 AM
I just have to say that the Blue Sorcerers fricken did it! I hope everyone had fun during O-Week, I know I had a blast being a breaker.

nutsngum
Sep 12th, 2007, 10:13 AM
i'm a WLU BBA student as well, going into 4th year on my last co-op term! It's not too hard to find a co-op job I think, as long as you do your research on the companies that you are applying for!

Fallen_Paladin
Sep 12th, 2007, 08:03 PM
This has turned in the the Laurier BBA program discussion thread.

I'm also in the BBA program. I'm wondering though if anyone has any of the first year bba books for sale? I still need to purchase all of my books and it'd be great if I could find someone who's willing to sell me their used copies.

On a different note, does anyone know of a dc++ hub for the Laurier resnet? I've tried searching the net and I found three that are no longer working.

LNahid2000
Sep 12th, 2007, 10:47 PM
Anyone can set up DC++ at WLU. Last year it was quite popular and we had over 400 people on there most of the time. Here's last year's facebook group. Looks like no one has set it up this year yet.

http://wluca.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2213957934

Oh, and for BBA, all of the books are new editions or new books completely.

Mendesb
Sep 13th, 2007, 06:00 AM
there is a special program for those of you who are good with math. Its almost like you have 2 majors and a minor and is really easy to get into (i got in with a mid 70). Basically you will end up with a major in math and business and a minor in economics i beleive. Also with this program you can get your CA degree. It is called MAth with an accounting option.

rey1867
Sep 13th, 2007, 10:59 AM
I just have to say that the Blue Sorcerers fricken did it! I hope everyone had fun during O-Week, I know I had a blast being a breaker.

too bad rfd loves green :twisted:

blueraiin
Sep 14th, 2007, 10:47 AM
hey,

i'm 2nd year and have my co-op interview next week :/

anyone have tips? my avg was low (low 70s)...so i'm worried

rey1867
Sep 14th, 2007, 11:51 AM
hey,

i'm 2nd year and have my co-op interview next week :/

anyone have tips? my avg was low (low 70s)...so i'm worried

good luck :)

Valek
Sep 15th, 2007, 06:01 PM
Anyone can set up DC++ at WLU. Last year it was quite popular and we had over 400 people on there most of the time. Here's last year's facebook group. Looks like no one has set it up this year yet.

http://wluca.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2213957934

Oh, and for BBA, all of the books are new editions or new books completely.

Hey look, it's the group I created! :D I've had a constant stream of first years messaging me about DC++, I believe there is one set up now and a new group for 07/08.

Error916
Sep 16th, 2007, 11:34 AM
considering the year has just started and classes havent even started yet im not sure where you are basing your opinion on..

Basing it on personality and what is expected to be in bba

RayK
Sep 18th, 2007, 11:42 AM
I was wondering if anyone knows the best place to park if you dont have a parking permit? I was unable to get one and now i need to find places off campus to park but are still pretty close. thanks

Valek
Oct 5th, 2007, 10:06 AM
I was wondering if anyone knows the best place to park if you dont have a parking permit? I was unable to get one and now i need to find places off campus to park but are still pretty close. thanks

Bricker tends to be a pretty good place to park.

Mendesb
Nov 6th, 2007, 12:52 PM
anyone in an econ program?

canuck88
Nov 6th, 2007, 01:26 PM
Alumni here! Graduated in 2000, loved it so much I came back - I'm now working on campus!

RayK
Nov 6th, 2007, 06:24 PM
anyone in an econ program?

yup, i am...

sPiKyAZN
Nov 29th, 2007, 06:41 PM
I'm in grade 12 right now and am researching unis for business...I've read a lot about WLU especially on this forum. I'm actually pretty curious about the co-op in commerce.

What kind of average do you need to be eligible for co-op at wlu?
Do you need a lot of extra-curriculars?
Are the placements even good?
Are there specific tracks or are there placements for all types of business?

Also, I noticed the cut-off mark is 86...does that mean I should make it in as long as I get past that 86? I have a few extra curriculars...DECA, exec position in business council, mentors, but nothing too really really outstanding.

rey1867
Nov 29th, 2007, 06:50 PM
I'm in grade 12 right now and am researching unis for business...I've read a lot about WLU especially on this forum. I'm actually pretty curious about the co-op in commerce.

What kind of average do you need to be eligible for co-op at wlu?
Do you need a lot of extra-curriculars?
Are the placements even good?
Are there specific tracks or are there placements for all types of business?

Also, I noticed the cut-off mark is 86...does that mean I should make it in as long as I get past that 86? I have a few extra curriculars...DECA, exec position in business council, mentors, but nothing too really really outstanding.

laurier accepts a lot of people every year so if ur at 86, you'll get in

you need a 7 avg in your 2 business courses to pass first year along with passes in your other courses

ur overall gpa to apply for co-op varies every year (7-9). ive heard, your almost guaranteed a job if you have more than a 10 (80%) provided ur not a jackass.

laurier has really good placements for accounting (big 4, bdo, etc).

blueraiin
Nov 29th, 2007, 09:42 PM
yeah you'll probably get in with an 86, wlu has one of the largest business programs - they let in tons of people

i'm in 2nd year, i got into co-op with a very low avg based on strong ec's and interview (your co-op acceptance is based on 5 things - marks, ecs, volunteer, work exp, interview performance)

job placement is very high, but i'm kind of screwed with a low avg because it will be difficult to get interviews as it seems most employers go by marks at this stage

in any case, i'm hoping co-op will help me land a better job then i would have got myself without the university's backing - if you think about it, being in the co-op stream is already a preselection process for employers (i think 60 something percent of people who apply to co-op are accepted)

nguy6280
Nov 29th, 2007, 10:43 PM
Yeah, I'm 2nd year BBA co-op as well, great people, great courses, not hard to pass first year at all. With an 86, you should get in for sure. I finished first year with an average of 10+ (over 80%). With hard work and good study habits, it is not hard to obtain that at all. Strategically speaking, pick some easy courses that you also enjoy that will give your GPA that boost. The whole atmosphere at Laurier is great.

Regarding Co-op, they will admit you based on marks, work experience, volunteer and extracurricular experience and finally, based on your interview performance. Although, personally, I think if you have a GPA of over 10, you should be safe. They normally admit about 50% of students for co-op (290/600) depending on the year. There are some excellent jobs, some good jobs and some not so good jobs. It all depends on what you bring to the table. A high GPA (10+) will definately make you competitive for those top jobs and excellent work experience/volunteer work will definately help you.

BTW, the CA jobs are posted first around November and I'm currently going through that process right now. I just got selected for an interview for BDO Dunwoody LLP. The Big4 hire many students from WLU for accounting, so if you're interested in accounting, WLU is strong in that area. The finance, marketing, HR jobs are posted in January. Finance and specifically investment banking is very competitive and there are not that many jobs in that area. So if you want that top job in finance, marketing, accounting, ace first year and build up that resume.

sPiKyAZN
Nov 30th, 2007, 01:19 PM
Thanks for the advice guys...I'm actually planning to head towards investments/finance but I dunno...I'm not 100% certain which is why I really wanna try co-op so I can get a feel for what the job is like.

So I'm guessing no one has any regrets picking WLU? lol

adehbone
Nov 30th, 2007, 02:13 PM
Consider the Financial Management and Econmics program heavily too then.

If you are more quant personality, trust me 3rd year Marketing/HR/etc will not be much fun.

Also Econometrics is much more valuable in that arena.

blueraiin
Nov 30th, 2007, 04:57 PM
no regrets yet, its pretty cool here - plus some people see that wlu's entering cut-off is 86, which is a couple % points below queens/schulich/ivey - but wlu is also admitting tons of students, the caliber is still pretty high, also that means a larger alumni later

sPiKyAZN
Nov 30th, 2007, 08:58 PM
Ok, if WLU is such a big program, does it suffer from UofT syndrome where you just become a number in a huge sea of students?

rey1867
Nov 30th, 2007, 10:18 PM
Ok, if WLU is such a big program, does it suffer from UofT syndrome where you just become a number in a huge sea of students?

not really, uoft is different because a lot of ppl go there. this year there were only 4000 first year students in all and that is the highest ever. Dont believe the small school bs they advertise because that is mostly false advertising.


no regrets yet, its pretty cool here - plus some people see that wlu's entering cut-off is 86, which is a couple % points below queens/schulich/ivey - but wlu is also admitting tons of students, the caliber is still pretty high, also that means a larger alumni later

the caliber isnt that high imo ..... if you admit a high number of ppl as wlu does, the overall quality of the students is going to go down.

adehbone
Dec 1st, 2007, 02:57 AM
Couple points.

1) WLU Business as a whole is the largest undergrad business program now. The dean beleives the strategy of growing the alumni pool and name of the school, is the best strategy to help increase reputation. Which allows to make the overall program better known and steal "top" students considering other schools. Ivey did a similar thing growing their program last 2 years. It is an interesting strategy, wouldn't really say its the best, the "elitest" don't admit anyone starategy has it own advantages as well.

2) Every alum, recruiter and everyone else really knows the true caliber and reputation of the WLU program comes from the Co-op stream. The co-op program has hardly grown over the years, compared to the business program as a whole, so the caliber stays strong.

Co-op as a whole has a big drop-off after the top jobs, especially in Finance and Marketing jobs. But that is life.

3) The WLU small school spirit and style, has nothing to do with the numbers. It has to do with tradition and strengths of the overall student body. First year business is taught in small labs, allowing for group work, projects instead of throwing everyone in a huge 500 person accounting class, and then forcing them to write 2-3 60 M/C exams. Professor McClutchen, beleives this the unique and strenght of preparing the students for future success.

In other ways, WLU is all about extra-curriculars and community involvement, and having fun. While the business students study more than other majors, most biz kids are still involved in overall school activities. There is many many clubs on campus, and the school even has a special tracking system for every student's community involvement.

While a school like UofT, you will only see biz kids in Accounting/Marketing/Finance clubs, and only doing "business things". All these things make the WLU spirit much different than a place like UofT.

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Do I regret it? hmmm Hard to say, 4months study/4months work is a great balance, 8 months of school is lame. Waterloo is a fun town, lots of bars and events always going on.

But I would have to say if it wasn't for these things, I would have for sure gone to Ivey. If I went to London from year 1, I am sure I would have like'd as much as I enjoy Waterloo.

Ivey has way better recruiting than pretty much any school for finance/consulting/marketing. Also they force class participation and case work alot more. WLU has some cases/group work, but when your in a 3rd year class where nobody shows up because everything is in the textbook, and the prof asks for "examples to speak from your co-op terms", and no one is adding value to the class since there is no participation marks just exams, it sure is a waste of time. Case study work I think adds alot more value.

Queen's would be another one, though I think I would not like the student body. And London women > Kingston women by far.

blueraiin
Dec 1st, 2007, 09:08 AM
yeah you pretty much hit everything direct on, unfortunately since im on the lower grade scale of the co-op students, it looks like i'm goin to get a ****** job...?



the caliber isnt that high imo ..... if you admit a high number of ppl as wlu does, the overall quality of the students is going to go down.

the more you admit, the more low and high students you have - the program gets much smaller in 2nd year, and smaller in 3rd as well

also check out all the recent business competitions, wlu is doing pretty well (icbc)

nguy6280
Dec 1st, 2007, 11:37 AM
he bluralin, did u apply to any CA postings?

blueraiin
Dec 1st, 2007, 08:48 PM
nah man, i'm not too interested in CA

good luck if you applied though - some pretty good jobs up i saw