Which tires?

[R3tract]

Just wanted to get some opinions on which tires to get.
I'm in need of replacing my 4 tires and I was looking at the Michelin MXV4 from Costco and Toyo Proxes4 from a local tire shop.

Price including installing are pretty much in the same ball park

[Spud72]

Both those tires look like they'd be awful in the winter. Buying some winter rubber too if you don't park it?

I've always had good luck with Toyos in general, but we've got some Michelins on our Accord and they've been decent enough.

Assuming price and everything is close, start comparing warranties and service. IIRC, Costco offers free flat repairs and rotating. A flat repair can easily cost $25, so if the other tire shop doesn't offer it, that might be something to consider.

I think the tread of the Toyo looks cooler. :cheesygri

[VivienM]

Just wanted to get some opinions on which tires to get.
I'm in need of replacing my 4 tires and I was looking at the Michelin MXV4 from Costco and Toyo Proxes4 from a local tire shop.

Price including installing are pretty much in the same ball park

What kind of car is this for?

[R3tract]

It's for a Matrix XR.

Current Tires on it are Goodyear Energy RSA and I never had problems driving with it in the Winter.. even going uphill on Avenue road during those snow storms. Wodering if these Michelin or Toyo will be as good.

[ADHR21]

Just wanted to get some opinions on which tires to get.
I'm in need of replacing my 4 tires and I was looking at the Michelin MXV4 from Costco and Toyo Proxes4 from a local tire shop.

Price including installing are pretty much in the same ball park

PRICE IN US IS A LOT CHEAPER

[BartBandy]

It's for a Matrix XR.

Current Tires on it are Goodyear Energy RSA and I never had problems driving with it in the Winter.. even going uphill on Avenue road during those snow storms. Wodering if these Michelin or Toyo will be as good.

Had the same car with the same tires. If you're driving Avenue Road, the fact that it is plowed regularly as a main arterial road has more to do with the ability of the RS-A to climb a moderate hill than its design. If you're not on a plowed, salted road, it is a truly crappy tire in the winter.

The Goodyear TripleTred gets a lot of kudos for being a decent tire in the winter, despite its A/S rating. Most A/S tires are 3 season tires. If I never left the city, I would look at those.

[TerryB]

Having a dedictaed set of Winters is always the best...but the Yokohama TRZ is a very good tire that works well in winter.

And that's not coming from me, that is what Consumer Reports says about them....I put then on my Van and I love them.

[ES_Revenge]

It's for a Matrix XR.

Current Tires on it are Goodyear Energy RSA and I never had problems driving with it in the Winter.. even going uphill on Avenue road during those snow storms. Wodering if these Michelin or Toyo will be as good.

I think you meant Eagle RSA. "Energy" is a Michelin moniker ;)

RS-As smell up the place in general, winter or not. RS-As are also used in many OE applications and it makes for the tyre being significantly overpriced because Goodyear knows a lot of people won't know any better and order the exact same tyres when replacement time comes. They are pretty bad tyres though, compared to the competition (including other products from Goodyear themselves). How they keep the Eagle name on the RS-As is beyond me--IMO they are not worthy of it.

I would never recommend anyone buying all-season tyres though. It's like telling someone to buy Bose, lol. "Friends don't let friends..." ;)

[Pete_Coach]

In the snow or even on icy roads, any winter tire is better than an all season. Considering you are driving locally and not in high performance mode, why would you want high performance winter tires? High performance winter tires have a rubber compound that is softer to give you all sorts of better traction handling etc in extreme conditions but, on a dry or fairly dry surface, the rubber wears off real quick (something like racing rain tires on a dry track). Normally, most of your winter driving is done on city roads which are relatively bare, the high end advantage is actually lost on bare roads.
This is only my opinion, for those that might see this as definitive advice.

[VivienM]

RS-As are also used in many OE applications and it makes for the tyre being significantly overpriced because Goodyear knows a lot of people won't know any better and order the exact same tyres when replacement time comes.

Ahh yes, this brilliant scam. Goodyear does it with the Eagle LS, too... you can get the TripleTred, which I think is their top-of-the-line not-too-sporty A/S tire, for the same price or cheaper than a set of Eagle LSs...


I would never recommend anyone buying all-season tyres though.

What about for someone like my dad? He doesn't drive to work. He lives in a city. The only thing he "needs" to use the car for in the winter is shopping, and that can usually be delayed by a couple of days if there's a storm or something. Does he really need dedicated winter tires?

[BartBandy]

What about for someone like my dad? He doesn't drive to work. He lives in a city. The only thing he "needs" to use the car for in the winter is shopping, and that can usually be delayed by a couple of days if there's a storm or something. Does he really need dedicated winter tires?

If you can park your car on snowy days, then absolutely, you don't need winter tires. If you have to commute, I believe you should have them.

[royaljelly]

I'm looking at the same set of tires as well for my 01 Rav4.

Reviews on tirerack.com are pretty good for the Yokohama AVID TRZ (even in snow), but the Michelin's Primacy MXV4 from Costco are new (release June 07?) so there's not too many reviews about it from people who have driven it in winter conditions.

The other tire I was lookin at are the Kumho Solus KH16, which also got good reviews, and are slightly cheaper than the Yokohama TRZ.

BTW, the price I got quoted from Costco for my size (235/60/16) was $180+ (installed ?+tax) before their $15 per tire discount. Whereas the Yokohama TRZs were only $135 (installed, plus tax) at Steelcase tires. Don't forget to call around and get some other prices.

[BigM]

PRICE IN US IS A LOT CHEAPER

How can we buy tires in US and bring back to Canada? Have anyone do this before?

[Asad_A203]

Blizzaks FTMFW!! Enough said, best price/performance ratio.

[kleptodathief]

i have the viking snowtechs ...prolly the best/cheapest bang for ur buck SNOW tires... im not sure if they r that great on icy roads, but who the hell drives fast when its slick/icy cold roads...

so if ur on a budget get these tires :)

shud cost around 500max installed for set of 4 16inches