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Rocco
Sep 26th, 2007, 12:27 PM
Do you drive a G35 (Sedan or Coupe)? Do you have excessive brake dust on the front wheels? I do, and I'm just wondering if this is normal?
Is there anything I can do to reduce this? (besides driving less often!)

donaldtin
Sep 26th, 2007, 12:50 PM
this is normal as the front wheels do more braking than rear, so your front will always have more brake dust than the rear, same as BMW cars.

i drive a mazda 3, and mazda's solution is to use harder front brake pads, which leaves almost no brake dust, but the rear is regular, which is full of it! i think you can chnage it to a harder pad and eliminate the problem, but there may be trade off with worse braking performance.

Evil Techie
Sep 26th, 2007, 12:55 PM
you could also use sealant and glaze to protect the wheels so brake dusts come off much easier and not stick on them

T-DOT
Sep 26th, 2007, 01:03 PM
Ceramic Brake Pads FTW!

FD3S
Sep 26th, 2007, 01:21 PM
yes alot of lux sedan, coupes, sportscars have very heavy break dust,

get some different pads that provide lower dust.

and you will see a big difference.

I recommend Hawk HPS pads.....

Good luck.

TenzoR
Sep 26th, 2007, 01:33 PM
I like my Akebono ProACT pads, virtually no brake dust

Polaren
Sep 26th, 2007, 01:44 PM
yes alot of lux sedan, coupes, sportscars have very heavy break dust,

get some different pads that provide lower dust.

and you will see a big difference.

I recommend Hawk HPS pads.....

Good luck.

+1 for Hawk pads

Rocco
Sep 26th, 2007, 02:51 PM
Thanks everyone for your input.
Does the Hawk HPS conform to OEM. Also do you know if all Infinity dealers install this pad, or do I have to go to another shop. Do you know of any shops in the Mississauga area?
Thanks again!

PCDawg
Sep 26th, 2007, 03:09 PM
Thanks everyone for your input.
Does the Hawk HPS conform to OEM. Also do you know if all Infinity dealers install this pad, or do I have to go to another shop. Do you know of any shops in the Mississauga area?
Thanks again!

Yes, HAwk HPS pads have oem applications for each manufacturer. Perfect fitment.

Misconception about Hawk pads about them not dusting. I've used Hawk HPS and Hawk Ceramic pads. They both dust, but with ceramic tey dont dust as much as HPS.

Polaren
Sep 26th, 2007, 03:14 PM
Yes, HAwk HPS pads have oem applications for each manufacturer. Perfect fitment.

Misconception about Hawk pads about them not dusting. I've used Hawk HPS and Hawk Ceramic pads. They both dust, but with ceramic tey dont dust as much as HPS.

There will always be brake dust, it is just something you can't avoid, but you can minimize. All pads will create some sort of dust..unless you get those new stone or diamond brake pads ;)

PCDawg
Sep 26th, 2007, 03:19 PM
There will always be brake dust, it is just something you can't avoid, but you can minimize. All pads will create some sort of dust..unless you get those new stone or diamond brake pads ;)

True, but my OEm pads didnt dust as much of these aftermarket pads. But thats how it is when you get more aggressive pads that bite down harder.

KorruptioN
Sep 26th, 2007, 03:52 PM
Isn't brake dust partially caused by driving habits?

woodstock827
Sep 26th, 2007, 03:59 PM
Isn't brake dust partially caused by driving habits?

If your driving habit is to never use the brake, then yes.

ES_Revenge
Sep 26th, 2007, 04:03 PM
Isn't brake dust partially caused by driving habits?

Yeah and also cleaning habits, lol. A great way to minimise the dust on your wheels is to clean them more often...

I often see higher end cars driving around that have tons of dust on the front wheels, and it's easy to see that it's simply because the owners are too lazy to clean their wheels often enough.

Hard continuous braking or excessive use of the brakes in general (which is what most people love to do--press the brakes for no reason :rolleyes: ) will certainly cause more break wear and, of course, more dust. So use the brakes less, get less dust.

You can get pads that are "low dusting" but be careful before buying such pads because pretty much all pads use that as some kind of buzzword nowadays--no matter how much dust they really put out, they all say "low dust" :rolleyes: Kinda like buying a used car from a used car salesperson--no car on a used car lot has ever been in an accident, lol.

Buying lower dust pads is great when the time comes to replace the pads but I wouldn't just replace perfectly good pads before the time has come. Instead do the above things--brake less and clean your wheels more often ;)

brendonp
Sep 26th, 2007, 04:38 PM
Do you drive a G35 (Sedan or Coupe)? Do you have excessive brake dust on the front wheels? I do, and I'm just wondering if this is normal?
Is there anything I can do to reduce this? (besides driving less often!)

This is a common problem brought up on most of the BMW boards that I frequent. Hawk Ceremic and others mentioned here are also mentioned there; however the general consensus (for BMW anyway) seems to be that OEMs are the dirtiest, but also share the lead for stopping power - while several other makes seem to stop you as well, there is no clear winner for stopping distance over OEM (ie, reducing dust + improved performance doesn't seem to exist (at least by just replacing pads ;) )... take it for what it's worth, but I use Axxis Deluxe pads, and I've noticed a significant reduction in brake dust, but the initial bite isn't a great as with the OEMs.

Brendon

tkyoshi
Sep 26th, 2007, 04:45 PM
this is normal as the front wheels do more braking than rear, so your front will always have more brake dust than the rear, same as BMW cars.

i drive a mazda 3, and mazda's solution is to use harder front brake pads, which leaves almost no brake dust, but the rear is regular, which is full of it! i think you can chnage it to a harder pad and eliminate the problem, but there may be trade off with worse braking performance.

The only issue you may have with a harder pad is noise. Since it's harder material it well tend to resonate more easily.

You can minimize this with anti squeel stuff like copper grease.

nolimtzel
Sep 26th, 2007, 05:01 PM
g35 uses brembo brakes. brembo is quite possible the best braking performance company their brakes are solid with little or no fading under heavy usage. changing up to ceramic pads will help but remember ceramic only works its best when its hot.

AzN_RiverdaleCI
Sep 26th, 2007, 05:06 PM
switch both to drum brakes, lawl.

TenzoR
Sep 26th, 2007, 05:52 PM
g35 uses brembo brakes. brembo is quite possible the best braking performance company their brakes are solid with little or no fading under heavy usage. changing up to ceramic pads will help but remember ceramic only works its best when its hot.

some g35...

ES_Revenge
Sep 26th, 2007, 06:04 PM
g35 uses brembo brakes. brembo is quite possible the best braking performance company their brakes are solid with little or no fading under heavy usage. changing up to ceramic pads will help but remember ceramic only works its best when its hot.

Brembo brakes were only an option on the Coupes and only for certain years. I think after 2003 or something like that, it was discontinued as an option, though the 350Z retained them.

baseline
Sep 26th, 2007, 06:12 PM
I only had excessive brake dust during maybe the first 500km

Asad_A203
Sep 27th, 2007, 12:35 AM
Do you drive a G35 (Sedan or Coupe)? Do you have excessive brake dust on the front wheels? I do, and I'm just wondering if this is normal?
Is there anything I can do to reduce this? (besides driving less often!)

Normal. I have excessive brake dust. I just spray some cleaner on it at the car wash to clean it off. When you drive a performance car, you kind of have to expect this. Mine is a coupe so I definately have more than you probably because the brakes are bigger. Brakes on G35s tend to go alot though. Wow this is like the 5th G35 Post on RFD, on the same page. Well good to know other people have Gs on the site, not just Mazda 6s, haha.

Asad_A203
Sep 27th, 2007, 12:36 AM
Brembo brakes were only an option on the Coupes and only for certain years. I think after 2003 or something like that, it was discontinued as an option, though the 350Z retained them.

Until 2005. Brembos wore out quicker than the regular brakes, and were costly to repair and given that 90% of people with the Brembos will never actually require that much extra braking power, it was discontinued. Brembos were only available on the 6MTs, and coupes exclusively.

astroboi
Sep 27th, 2007, 12:54 AM
It's all about the pads. I'm using PBR/Axxiss Deluxe Plus, they are OEM replacement pads. They are an organic, low rotor wear pad that do not squeal. They're also pretty affordable.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/pw/brakedust.htm

Rocco
Sep 27th, 2007, 08:40 AM
Regarding ceramic pads, what that cost for these pads? Does anyone know if the Infinity deales in GTA offer Hawk pads? Or do I have to go to a particular shop?

Asad_A203
Sep 27th, 2007, 02:51 PM
Regarding ceramic pads, what that cost for these pads? Does anyone know if the Infinity deales in GTA offer Hawk pads? Or do I have to go to a particular shop?

I would buy a set of OEM brakes from Grubbs Infiniti or pick up one of these pairs from any online site, just google it. I doubt a dealer will offer Hawk pads, but I could be wrong; just go to any shop; installing brakes is pretty much straight forward on any car. And remember, it is Infiniti, not Infinity...

ES_Revenge
Sep 27th, 2007, 07:09 PM
It's all about the pads. I'm using PBR/Axxiss Deluxe Plus, they are OEM replacement pads. They are an organic, low rotor wear pad that do not squeal. They're also pretty affordable.

Ewwww. NAO pads FTL!

astroboi
Sep 27th, 2007, 11:34 PM
Ewwww. NAO pads FTL!

Hey, unless he plans on taking his G35 to the track, aftermarket pads that offer OEM performance would be more than adequate. Warm up period, rotor scoring, squealing, high price are some of the disadvantages that can come with high performance pads.

kmltick
Sep 28th, 2007, 12:24 PM
Are the OE pads ceramic? dusting isn't an indication of brake pad material (after all PBR/Axxiss ultimates are ceramic and dust like crazy on certain cars).

NefCanuck
Sep 28th, 2007, 03:52 PM
Just another thumbs up for the Hawk HPS pads. Much less dust than the OE pads on my car but with as much bite (or more)

One trick I was told regarding dealing with brakes dust is to wax the wheels on they are cleaned and the brake dust will come off easier at the next cleaning (Whether your wheels can be waxed without spotting or discolouring is a function of what material that your wheels are made of)

NefCanuck

ES_Revenge
Sep 28th, 2007, 08:47 PM
Hey, unless he plans on taking his G35 to the track, aftermarket pads that offer OEM performance would be more than adequate. Warm up period, rotor scoring, squealing, high price are some of the disadvantages that can come with high performance pads.

Last I checked you need to stop on regular roads, not just "the track"... And more than adequate? :rolleyes: NAO pads are by-and-large the worst performing pads in terms of brake feel, stopping distance and fade resistance (pretty much all aspects of braking) when compared to other pad formulations.

Given how many people just love to hit the brakes (often for no reason) I would think that most people should have more fade resistant brakes because they suck at driving to begin with and then hit the brakes all the time which can lead to brake fade when they actually need to brake.

Why equip your car with brakes that are going to take your car longer to stop, be more likely to fade, and just be crappy in general? Personally I'll take the noise of better pads thanks, I'd rather stop than not stop and be quiet, because when you hit something that's gonna be a lot louder than the minor squealing you might get from time to time.

As for price, it's a long the same lines--are you really gonna cheap out on a safety item? Furthermore if you're driving a G35 and want to buy $20 pads? There's something wrong with you, lol.

Now the G35 has pretty good brakes to begin with, yeah, but it doesn't matter better brake pads are always better. I doubt the G35 came with NAO from the factory, so you may well be decreasing brake performance by switching to NAO pads after the fact.