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george benjamin
Nov 7th, 2007, 12:51 PM
Eight killed at Finland school after YouTube post
Wed Nov 7, 2007 11:51 AM EST

By Sami Torma

TUUSULA, Finland (Reuters) - Seven children were killed when a fellow student opened fire at a school in southern Finland on Wednesday, hours after a video was posted on YouTube predicting a massacre there.

The school principal also died. The gunman, who had walked through Jokela High School firing into classroom after classroom, is in hospital after shooting and wounding himself.

"Five boys, two girls and one adult woman were killed," police chief Matti Tohkanen told a news conference.

He later identified the woman as the principal of the school in Tuusula municipality, a town of 35,000 some 60 km (40 miles) from Helsinki.

The YouTube video, set to a hard-driving song called "Stray Bullet," shows a still photo of a low building that appears to be Jokela High School. The photo breaks apart to reveal a red-tinted picture of a man pointing a handgun at the camera.

"He (the gunman) was moving systematically through the school hallways, knocking on the doors and shooting through the doors," said Kim Kiuru, who was teaching a grade 8 class when the shooting began.

"It felt unreal, a pupil I have taught myself was running towards me, screaming, a pistol in his hand."

Outside a church community building close by, a mother waited as a Red Cross bus pulled up outside. She watched children stepping off the bus and burst into tears when, through a window, she spotted her child, unharmed.

The YouTube video, entitled "Jokela High School Massacre - 11/7/2007," was posted by a user called Sturmgeist89.

"I am prepared to fight and die for my cause," read a posting by a user of the same name.

"I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit, disgraces of human race and failures of natural selection." "Sturmgeist" means storm spirit in German.

Hours after the shooting, the user's account was suspended.

PEACEFUL TUUSULA

Junior Constable Olli Laine said earlier police had evacuated students from the building, which serves some 500 middle and high school students.

"This is a peaceful place, nothing like this has happened and nothing like this is to be expected either," Tuusula mayor Hannu Joensivu said.

Despite having the world's third-largest per capita handgun ownership, violent incidents are rare at Finnish schools.

According to Finnish media, there have been four stabbings at schools since 1999. None of these caused fatalities.

Finnish Prime Minister Matti Vanhanen told reporters the shooting was an "extremely sad event."

The last major attack in the country occurred in 2002 when a young man killed including himself and six others in a bomb blast at a shopping mall in Helsinki.

(Additional reporting by Sakari Suoninen, Terhi Kinnunen and Agnieszka Flak; Editing by Robert Woodward)

http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2007-11-07T165137Z_01_HEL005972_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-FINLAND-SHOOTING-COL.XML

unleashed
Nov 7th, 2007, 01:04 PM
Man this is tragic, I really feel bad for the parents who lost their innocent kids in all this.

aimfox
Nov 7th, 2007, 01:42 PM
i feel sorry for the people who died innocently. luckily this was in finland and not america

Smoked
Nov 7th, 2007, 03:11 PM
where is the youtube video?

Hanniganite
Nov 7th, 2007, 03:13 PM
Hopefully the tool lives so he can be properly punished the public can find out what made him do it.

Thread title made me think the shooting was in response to the vid or something..

Little Dragon
Nov 7th, 2007, 03:13 PM
i feel sorry for the people who died innocently. luckily this was in finland and not america

luckily? how is this good or lucky for anyone? even the media will entwine america in this somehow. youtube is american.

ab20
Nov 7th, 2007, 03:21 PM
o man,
this school shooting stuff is starting to be a trend...
i feel sad for students who just want to learn...:cry:

Aznkid2000
Nov 7th, 2007, 03:37 PM
where is the youtube video?

youtube took the video out

and i feel sorry for a these kids.

Whats wrong with ppl these days

UrbanPoet
Nov 7th, 2007, 03:39 PM
video was probably taken off b/c its gonna be used as evidence in a criminal investigation.

VorteC
Nov 7th, 2007, 04:07 PM
Rip.

kleptodathief
Nov 7th, 2007, 05:23 PM
wow...thought this only happens in the USA,canaduh!:confused:

UrbanPoet
Nov 7th, 2007, 05:38 PM
wow...thought this only happens in the USA,canaduh!:confused:

the worst mass killing was actually in South Korea....
A guy went pyscho and went house to house identifying himself as a police officer (he was a cop, but he went insane). He started to shoot every one and even had grenades.

GangStarr
Nov 7th, 2007, 07:05 PM
The weather in Finland is wacky, when I was there in summer sunset was 11pm and sunrise was 4am. It's the reverse in winter, meaning its dark, so dark Fins must wear reflectors when they walk around. I also hear it has the highest suicide rate in Europe.

Tragic event.

SwiZz
Nov 7th, 2007, 07:10 PM
You can see the video here:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=369_1194449557

CityPulse posted a link to it from there page:

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_16528.aspx

divx
Nov 7th, 2007, 08:14 PM
video was probably taken off b/c its gonna be used as evidence in a criminal investigation.

They don't need anymore evidence to convict the gunman, they already know who he is and what he did.

george benjamin
Nov 7th, 2007, 08:15 PM
They don't need anymore evidence to convict the gunman, they already know who he is and what he did.

He's dead.

Haz
Nov 7th, 2007, 08:53 PM
He's dead.I thought he shot himself in the head but survived. Did he die in hospital?

Aznkid2000
Nov 7th, 2007, 08:58 PM
This guy is like copying the asian guy at shot out at the Universty thing

a while back

Cant remember what it was called...:confused:

and wasnt there a huge shot out at some other school a few years back with 2 or 3 kids loaded with guns and stuff shotting at school?? was in the US i think

Emancipated
Nov 7th, 2007, 09:04 PM
Whats wrong with ppl these days

The internet serves both good and bad. Just like cars, it can take you to places but can also kill you if you or someone else is not careful. Seems like I'm going off a tangent but demented people doing demented things seems to have one underlying similarity; the internet.

Rejects who can't cope with the pressures of life decide to go out in a big bang. There is nothing we can glean from this event to stop future incidences from happening. Mental illness is the broad diagnosis for these people and unfortunately, the juggernaut has started. There is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent further clones of these from happening except perhaps sentry robots that shoot on sight when tresspassers try to gain access.

ClubberLang
Nov 8th, 2007, 09:31 AM
what race was the shooter [/sarcasm].

george benjamin
Nov 8th, 2007, 10:28 AM
I thought he shot himself in the head but survived. Did he die in hospital?

Yes he died in the hospital.

GangStarr
Nov 8th, 2007, 11:36 AM
This guy is like copying the asian guy at shot out at the Universty thing

a while back

Cant remember what it was called...:confused:

and wasnt there a huge shot out at some other school a few years back with 2 or 3 kids loaded with guns and stuff shotting at school?? was in the US i think

Virgina Tech, it wasn't that long ago.

If they were copying anyone, I think you would attribute this type of situation to columbine Colorado. That or the montreal massacre that happened in the late 80's or early 90's.

Haz
Nov 8th, 2007, 11:43 AM
the worst mass killing was actually in South Korea....
A guy went pyscho and went house to house identifying himself as a police officer (he was a cop, but he went insane). He started to shoot every one and even had grenades.

You mean Woo Bum-Kon? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woo_Bum-Kon)