Dubai for new grads?

[lazarus]

This time next year I will have my M.A. If I can't get a federal government job or something which starts at 45-60k in Canada -- I was thinking about working in Dubai (after watching a newsworld docs reports).

Anyhow, after reading a few threads here it seems like the consensus is that as a new grad you won't really find a job with high wages (they want experience). Is this still true? (most threads were from 06).

It would be great to find a job that pays double in Dubai than crap job in Canada, but I wanted to start research now, find out if it is possible to get hired from Canada since moving to Dubai and trying to find a job seems more risky.

[george benjamin]

I'm sorry, but it's impossible to find a job there an an expatriate without experience.

[weedb0y]

Experience and good educational background. Afterall, they are paying for that!

[rdua]

What type of qualifies as experienced enough. 1-2 yrs? > 5 yrs?

And what type of experience say you were looking for something within the financial market.

[jvaf]

I'm sorry, but it's impossible to find a job there an an expatriate without experience.

I think you are mistaken. Anyone with a foreign passport+ basic degree qualifications + some experience will easily obtain a job there. They pay top notch salaries as well.

[Mayoo]

I am a new grad in Telecommunications sector and i started at 57K in May 2007

[sh0n]

I am a new grad in Telecommunications sector and i started at 57K in May 2007

Is this in Dubai or Canada?

Also what was your undergrad and what exactly are you doing in the telecom sector?

[parry]

I am a new grad in Telecommunications sector and i started at 57K in May 2007


Is this in Dubai or Canada?

Also what was your undergrad and what exactly are you doing in the telecom sector?

And is it in Govt or Private?

[qster]

I know a friend of a friend who's a site project manager for one of the new mega projects they are building in Dubai. He's getting 3 times the pay for the 2 years he'll be over there compared to what he can make here in Canada.

The downside, from what I've heard is that...its a different country and culture with different laws. You're considered an outsider, thus there will be certain things you can't do and certain places you cannot go. So if you don't mind certain restrictions are your civil liberties and/or rights its a good chance to make $$$$$. However, if you are the type that doesn't like restrictions (like certain areas of the city you cannot enter, you can only socialize with workers only and not with the Dubai citizens)...this is not the environment to be working in.

If your Dubai employer fires you, you can't just apply to another place. You are sent packing back home.

Why is it that every new grad...thinks its their right to get paid a certain amount of $ without any real world experience? you gotta start at the bottom and work your way up.

[chrome_dout]

Dubai is the place to be, if you got decent experience. A friend of my gf got a job as a Sr BA making about 150k USD + rent money (not sure how much) for a 1 year contract. But he does have a fair bit of work experience, and had some job connections there. Also from what I understand it is becoming increasingly Western friendly. There are tons of restaurants, a decent nightlife, great shopping, hell they are even bringing over Eastern Euro girls for...social purposes. :lol:

[Huestar]

So does anyone know how you would go about getting hired in Dubai?
Any good websites or contacts?

[unleashed]

So does anyone know how you would go about getting hired in Dubai?
Any good websites or contacts?

This is a link of websites that hire for Dubai. Some on RFD posted them.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3004294&postcount=210

[heymikey]

Dubai is the place to be, if you got decent experience. A friend of my gf got a job as a Sr BA making about 150k USD + rent money (not sure how much) for a 1 year contract. But he does have a fair bit of work experience, and had some job connections there. Also from what I understand it is becoming increasingly Western friendly. There are tons of restaurants, a decent nightlife, great shopping, hell they are even bringing over Eastern Euro girls for...social purposes. :lol:
My dad used to work in Dubai about 10 years ago so I got to live there for a couple of years. For a middle-eastern country, it's quite westernized considering only a small minority are the local arab people. The majority are expats with a sizable European population. Aside from the high salary, other good things with Dubai is that there is no income tax, no sales tax, right in the middle of Europe and Asia (if you love to travel), and depending on the company you work for, lots of benefits that you can't find here. For example, the company that my dad worked for provided him with rent allowance, travel allowance (per person in the family) for airfares between Dubai and your home city (and if there are any left, hotel accommodations for stopovers), education allowance for your kids if you have one (you'll most likely be sending them to private international schools). So, it's not bad.

The thing I don't like about living in Dubai is the humidity (really hot) and it's quite boring. After a while, the beaches and the malls get quite boring although I'm sure a lot have changed in 10 years since I was there. Oh, and the fact that you need a car to get around although this wouldn't be an issue for you.

[raptorsfever]

Bump. Anyone else have more info? :)

[bubble.tea]

we cross paths again eh lazarus? ;).



If all you want to do is make a SHABLAAM bucket load of money., consider applying for one of the MMMMMMMMMMMMANY Contract positions in Iraq thru DOD. Not much experience is required for SOME entry level positions. Yes through the grapevine, I've heard of NEW GRADS going over in precariously middle-management levels making a CRRRRRRRRRAP load of money than they would ever imagine making anywhere else on planet Earth.


There is the whole., You may die in a heartbeat aspect though....and yet many MMMMMany companies keep pouring human resources into DOD Contracts.


....Why is it that every new grad...thinks its their right to get paid a certain amount of $ without any real world experience? you gotta start at the bottom and work your way up.
Who said you get to write the rules? Why CAN'T n00bs make all the money., and the old farts make little? :eek:.....hehhee jokes.


.... had some job connections there.....
There's all the world of difference b/n having NO connections...and even 'some'.

[raptorsfever]

Dubai is not exactly Iraq. I understand why OP might want to work in Dubai. I know some people who worked and currently working in Dubai. My friend's dad loved it in Dubai. He told me that Canadian citizens might be able to negotiate better wages including rent. Rent is outrageous in Dubai, so it'll be beneficial if your employer is paying for it. It might not be like North America, but Dubai as I was told is not that bad. Like any country, you still have to abide to their rules since you're still considered as an outsider. You might be homesick for a while, but you can adjust.

For a new grad to consider working in Dubai is not really a bad idea. You can pay off your student loan quicker and gain experience in the fastest growing city in the world.

OP, I suggest that maybe you visit Dubai first before you make any decisions. Dubai, like other cities, is not for everyone.

[RowaH]

If all you want to do is make a SHABLAAM bucket load of money., consider applying for one of the MMMMMMMMMMMMANY Contract positions in Iraq thru DOD.

Can't find the mentioned positions on the DOD website, can you please post the link?

[hamant]

Dubai is not exactly Iraq. I understand why OP might want to work in Dubai. I know some people who worked and currently working in Dubai. My friend's dad loved it in Dubai. He told me that Canadian citizens might be able to negotiate better wages including rent. Rent is outrageous in Dubai, so it'll be beneficial if your employer is paying for it. It might not be like North America, but Dubai as I was told is not that bad. Like any country, you still have to abide to their rules since you're still considered as an outsider. You might be homesick for a while, but you can adjust.

For a new grad to consider working in Dubai is not really a bad idea. You can pay off your student loan quicker and gain experience in the fastest growing city in the world.

OP, I suggest that maybe you visit Dubai first before you make any decisions. Dubai, like other cities, is not for everyone.

You made a lot of great points, especially about the rent. A know people who were lured in by the higher waes, but they didn't realize how much rent was. So all the 'extra' money they were making they were paying off their rent.

Make sure the company covers it.

[bubble.tea]

Can't find the mentioned positions on the DOD website, can you please post the link?

no I cannot.

I never was...nor will ever BE interested in working in Iraq (and so have no clue where these 'links' are online)...at least until my staying-in-one-piece chances are at least as good as they are in my hick town currently.

[7jai]

no I cannot.

I never was...nor will ever BE interested in working in Iraq (and so have no clue where these 'links' are online)...at least until my staying-in-one-piece chances are at least as good as they are in my hick town currently.


haha bubbletea has a point. basically you can treat dubai as those "high risk/high payoffs" investments. I mean you are working in the middle-east, away from everyone u've ever known (unless of course you have family in dubai), and also the dangers in working in the middle-east are quite high.

So i'm not suprised they would pay such a high wage, to an entry level grad. I was interested after reading this thread to, but then I would have to drop everything I have here, and then go on to the middle east where there are constant arab wars and such... I'm not too sure anymore.

[Rehan]

haha bubbletea has a point. basically you can treat dubai as those "high risk/high payoffs" investments. I mean you are working in the middle-east, away from everyone u've ever known (unless of course you have family in dubai), and also the dangers in working in the middle-east are quite high.

So i'm not suprised they would pay such a high wage, to an entry level grad. I was interested after reading this thread to, but then I would have to drop everything I have here, and then go on to the middle east where there are constant arab wars and such... I'm not too sure anymore. Huh? What "constant arab wars" have troubled Dubai, and what exactly are the "dangers" of working there?

[weedb0y]

Huh? What "constand arab wars" have troubled Dubai, and what exactly are the "dangers" of working there?

He's talking out of his biased little brain. Last time I checked, I hadn't heard about any wars going in Dubai.

[7jai]

He's talking out of his biased little brain. Last time I checked, I hadn't heard about any wars going in Dubai.


Thats' what i meant. I didn't mean that there are "actual" wars happening there. But just the media and biases of individuals making us believe there is, which is probably why ppl fear to not go there.

[weedb0y]

Thats' what i meant. I didn't mean that there are "actual" wars happening there. But just the media and biases of individuals making us believe there is, which is probably why ppl fear to not go there.

If anything, I saw a good documentry on CBC about opportunities available in Dubai!

[bubble.tea]

The only wars I've read about perhaps...are who's building the most beautiful resort Hotel :D.

[weedb0y]

The only wars I've read about perhaps...are who's building the most beautiful resort Hotel :D.

or if Beckham's suite is complete or not! lol

[RL08]

Thats' what i meant. I didn't mean that there are "actual" wars happening there. But just the media and biases of individuals making us believe there is, which is probably why ppl fear to not go there.

I don't feel that media is making me believe there are wars there. :confused:

[faken]

What's the living expenses like living in Dubai compared to Canada? Is there alot of job opporunity out there for people with business degrees?

[7jai]

I don't feel that media is making me believe there are wars there. :confused:

well i guess you have to watch the news and have political conversations with people to feel this :)

maybe its' just me, or the conversations i'm surrounded with and the news that i watch always focus on arabs this, and arabs that, or afgans this and afgans that. by doing this, it made me believe for a while that the middle east is a very dangerous place, when in fact, there are many places there that are not.

hopefully this conversation will end, and the topic of this thread will resume.... :) but i highly doubt people will stop and reply to my topic just to prove a point haha... :o

[weedb0y]

well i guess you have to watch the news and have political conversations with people to feel this :)

maybe its' just me, or the conversations i'm surrounded with and the news that i watch always focus on arabs this, and arabs that, or afgans this and afgans that. by doing this, it made me believe for a while that the middle east is a very dangerous place, when in fact, there are many places there that are not.

hopefully this conversation will end, and the topic of this thread will resume.... :) but i highly doubt people will stop and reply to my topic just to prove a point haha... :o


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[7jai]

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hopefully this conversation will end, and the topic of this thread will resume.... :) but i highly doubt people will stop and reply to my topic just to prove a point haha... :o



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[batman321123]

well i guess you have to watch the news and have political conversations with people to feel this :)

maybe its' just me, or the conversations i'm surrounded with and the news that i watch always focus on arabs this, and arabs that, or afgans this and afgans that. by doing this, it made me believe for a while that the middle east is a very dangerous place, when in fact, there are many places there that are not.

hopefully this conversation will end, and the topic of this thread will resume.... :) but i highly doubt people will stop and reply to my topic just to prove a point haha... :o

It's just you.

[Prophallus]

im actually considering doing this, im going to update my resume over the weekend and send it to jobsindubai.com
anyone know any other agencies that hook you up with jobs abroad? i'd really be interested in working at a different country

[glaswegian]

Did you see the docu recently about young westerners in Dubai, not able to get work, and the girls working as strippers just to get by? So unless you are a blonde, willing to open her legs to anyone offering cash, then don't bother.

Most people there went there through companies to setup businesses and build stuff. My dad worked there, as well as Kuwait and Saudi back in the early days as an engineer for an oil company. Those were the good ol days ;)

[Mayoo]

Is this in Dubai or Canada?

Also what was your undergrad and what exactly are you doing in the telecom sector?


Private compnay and I am a verification engineer at optical department. My undergard was compsci/math. I am in ottawa

[lazarus]

Well, I was going to add this. How do they check work experience? I could easily BS and say I did my current job for the last 7 years. It's the type of job that you do day in and day out, so having 2yrs or 7yr experience doesn't really matter. I also have experience supervising/being trainer to the newbs too.

Thought it's dishonest, I'd definitely try to lie about my amount experience so I could get higher wages. If it means I would have a starting wage of 50k compared to 80k+ to do the same job based on experience, I think I'd keep fishing until someone bit the line.

I mean an easy way around not having them contact your employer is by saying you are still working for them and don't want to tip them off that you are thinking about leaving.

[lazarus]

Private compnay and I am a verification engineer at optical department. My undergard was compsci/math. I am in ottawa


If you don't mind me asking what company do you work for and are they hiring? My buddy is looking for a job in Ottawa. He's an optical Engineer, and wants to move up there. :)