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AmberMoon
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:23 AM
Just curious were people think the worst crime area's are in Toronto. I'm always hearing Jane/Finch area having shootings and such but i'm sure there are other rough areas you would not want to walk down the street in the middle of the night alone

Peckerwood
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:27 AM
I think the worst area of Toronto is between Ottawa and Windsor

robertalan
Jan 7th, 2008, 09:25 AM
Bay Street has the most big-time thieves.

weedb0y
Jan 7th, 2008, 09:29 AM
Bay Street has the most big-time thieves.

I also hear that some areas in Ottawa are prone to the same big time gang.

untaka
Jan 7th, 2008, 10:27 AM
South and North of the 401 this includes the following

- Brampton
- Etobicoke
- North York
- Scarborough


errr its actually easier to name the nice places

- Woodbridge/Vaughan
- Maple
- Concord
- Thornhill
- King City
- Richmond Hill
- Part of Markham (Nearing Richmond Hill)
- Parts of Mississauga
- And 2 or 3 streets in North York surrounded by govn't housing so technically it doesn't count.

KorruptioN
Jan 7th, 2008, 10:29 AM
South and North of the 401 this includes the following

- Etobicoke
- North York
- Scarborough

Way to generalize the entire city of Toronto in one fell swoop :rolleyes:

Audiogenic
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:01 AM
-Rexdale
-Kingston Road
-Malvern
-Crackdale/Parkdale (has improved through)
-Regent Park
-Jane/Finch
-Riverdale Park (very bad at night believe it or not)

AmberMoon
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:44 AM
LOL ok lets get more pin pointed, Where would you advice not to walk in the middle of the night alone. Which neighborhood would that be not which city :P

shoei
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:45 AM
-Rexdale
-Kingston Road
-Malvern
-Crackdale/Parkdale (has improved through)
-Regent Park
-Jane/Finch
-Riverdale Park (very bad at night believe it or not)

regent park got soft after the revitilization projector

ricoboxing
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:50 AM
forresthill

kimbot
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:55 AM
Rexdale, Malvern, markham/Eglinton, Don Mills/Lawrence

shoei
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:56 AM
Bridal path is deadly man them millionaires smack you up with their rolls of 100's :D

minib26
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:19 PM
Rexdale, Malvern, markham/Eglinton, Don Mills/Lawrence

donmills / lawrence ??? residential area with a lot of houses, doesn't seem that bad.. used to go to don-mils centre a lot and never really ran into any problems.

anyway i grew up down the road at Don Mills / Eglington - Flemingdon Park..

i'll never forget when i was walking home one day to find otu the field i cross on a daily basis littered with cops and police vehcials. i found out later they used that area as their command post as they performed a huge drug raid in the area and arrested over 100 people on drug related charges.

UrbanPoet
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:25 PM
-Rexdale
-Kingston Road
-Malvern
-Crackdale/Parkdale (has improved through)
-Regent Park
-Jane/Finch
-Riverdale Park (very bad at night believe it or not)

Riverdale is such a nice neighbourhood. I admit theres crazies (drunks etc), but they mind their own business. No1s getting shot or robbed here...

kuqdew
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:44 PM
I use to live in Malvern, (Mornelle Crt)

Definately A LOT of violence.

Police cars were in front of my aparment building EVERYDAY.

My neighbour got arrested

(Morningside/Ellesmere)


I also lived in the Kennedy/Finch area for a year. Much nicer neighborhood IMO.

CSAgent
Jan 7th, 2008, 05:28 PM
Why is Mississauga on there, we have no dangerous areas to speak of.. 10 and 5 is considered to be dangerous by some which is rather ludicrous, but that's only because there are a lot of older, cheaper apartments there which somehow makes it dangerous??

Grimey01
Jan 7th, 2008, 05:30 PM
haha..you guys havent seen the sht i seen..been through the sht i been through...im not braggin or proud but..ya anyway

rexdale..malton..humberwood..driftwood..connection s..jungle..yblock..knl..chester le..g-way..shoreshots..flemo..parma..malvern...jamestown ..d-block..regent park..sauga..brampton..weston and finch...ardwick and finch..jane and finch...basically the whole finch strip...

i could go on and on...toronto stand up..

aimfox
Jan 7th, 2008, 05:32 PM
I use to live in Malvern, (Mornelle Crt)

Definately A LOT of violence.

Police cars were in front of my aparment building EVERYDAY.

My neighbour got arrested

(Morningside/Ellesmere)


I also lived in the Kennedy/Finch area for a year. Much nicer neighborhood IMO.

yeup, it's a better community there, more peaceful......

CSAgent
Jan 7th, 2008, 05:57 PM
haha..you guys havent seen the sht i seen..been through the sht i been through...im not braggin or proud but..ya anyway

rexdale..malton..humberwood..driftwood..connection s..jungle..yblock..knl..chester le..g-way..shoreshots..flemo..parma..malvern...jamestown ..d-block..regent park..sauga..brampton..weston and finch...ardwick and finch..jane and finch...basically the whole finch strip...

i could go on and on...toronto stand up..

... what are you, 14-15?

AzN_RiverdaleCI
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:07 PM
Blake

blackhawk
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:30 PM
When I have to go through that big brown smoke country, I just put her up to 120 or 130 on that 4 ot 1 cause those city kids cant hit nothing thats moving fast and I dont worry about blades and bats at that speed:!:

I'm glad there's no gun control in TO cause then they'd learn to lead and follow through:lol:

molala
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:40 PM
South and North of the 401 this includes the following

- Brampton
- Etobicoke
- North York
- Scarborough


errr its actually easier to name the nice places

- Woodbridge/Vaughan
- Maple
- Concord
- Thornhill
- King City
- Richmond Hill
- Part of Markham (Nearing Richmond Hill)
- Parts of Mississauga
- And 2 or 3 streets in North York surrounded by govn't housing so technically it doesn't count.

I don't know how you define nice places, coz

Woodbridge's shoppers drug mart's beauty boutique used to open 24 hours but they close it after midnight becayse it got robbed 3 times in 2 weeks.

Richmond Hill have the most breakins and kidnapping then robbing.

Many nearing area of Markham to Richmond Hill are commercial areas.

North York includes some part of yonge stree which is very busy all the time and crime can hardly go near.

To sum things up, I think you are just generalizing because of an incident here and there.

Smoked
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:08 PM
south markham is starting to change more violent

KorruptioN
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:02 PM
To sum things up, I think you are just generalizing because of an incident here and there.

Lots of people in this thread are. They're just jumping on the bandwagon.

AzN_RiverdaleCI
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:14 PM
Worst areas in Toronto is where government housing exist.

TechRock
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:20 PM
jane & finch...stc at night outside the TTC stop

elty
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:47 PM
If no one will say it I'll say it.

The areas with a high density of a certain ethnic group.

It's not politically corrects but the facts are facts.

The areas listed above are prime examples.

Or places with lower household income.

Oh and Richmond Hill and Markham has quite a bit of break in so it is not that peaceful.

Samir
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:53 PM
Bay/Front after 5 PM... ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Talamasca
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:55 PM
Still, the crime in Toronto pales in comparison to that of major American cities. I grew up in Regent Park from age 4-9. Maybe it was youthful naivete but nothing ever happened to me and my friends and we never saw anything bad either. We went out and played every single day in the summer.

P__S__2
Jan 7th, 2008, 09:03 PM
haha..you guys havent seen the sht i seen..been through the sht i been through...im not braggin or proud but..ya anyway

rexdale..malton..humberwood..driftwood..connection s..jungle..yblock..knl..chester le..g-way..shoreshots..flemo..parma..malvern...jamestown ..d-block..regent park..sauga..brampton..weston and finch...ardwick and finch..jane and finch...basically the whole finch strip...

i could go on and on...toronto stand up..


Are you from any one of those neighborhoods?

Kommander_KornFlakes
Jan 7th, 2008, 10:03 PM
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Woolner ave @ Jane st...... for years it was considered the "little sister of Jane/Finch" but after a tough Filipina manager took over the management job of all 6 highrise buildings, the cockroachery was cleaned out and the area became somewhat safer. She introduced security guards and kicked out the bad element from the apartments.

MoonDoggy
Jan 7th, 2008, 10:14 PM
It really breaks down to what type of crime you're thinking about. From talking to alot of officers around the city, he's where they told me (in general):

- Government housing generally have alot of domestic issues due to new immigrants that still sticks to their old culture believes. They generally target each other rather than other people;
- Jane/Finch area (which I lived there for 2 years) are generally gang related issues. Unless you're at the wrong place at the wrong time, you'll never be bothered by anyone anytime of the day;
- Richmond Hill/Markham area are known for grow-ops (mostly by asians);
- Downtown area (south of Bloor around University area) have alot of break-ins and petty crime (i.e. fighting, robbing, etc). Also true for Etobicoke south end around Lakeshore.

But realistically, how many of you feel afraid to walk outside at night in Toronto? :confused:

YnD
Jan 7th, 2008, 10:22 PM
Take a nice walk through GEORGE st. (First small street east of Jarvis between Gerrard and Dundas).

Mad sh1t going down there every night.


It really breaks down to what type of crime you're thinking about. From talking to alot of officers around the city, he's where they told me (in general):

- Government housing generally have alot of domestic issues due to new immigrants that still sticks to their old culture believes. They generally target each other rather than other people;
- Jane/Finch area (which I lived there for 2 years) are generally gang related issues. Unless you're at the wrong place at the wrong time, you'll never be bothered by anyone anytime of the day;
- Richmond Hill/Markham area are known for grow-ops (mostly by asians);
- Downtown area (south of Bloor around University area) have alot of break-ins and petty crime (i.e. fighting, robbing, etc). Also true for Etobicoke south end around Lakeshore.

But realistically, how many of you feel afraid to walk outside at night in Toronto? :confused:

Gun crimes are usually done by whom?

willyxjai
Jan 7th, 2008, 10:26 PM
Blake

Tell me your not serious?

MoonDoggy
Jan 7th, 2008, 10:29 PM
Take a nice walk through GEORGE st. (First small street east of Jarvis between Gerrard and Dundas).

Mad sh1t going down there every night.



Gun crimes are usually done by whom?

Gangs. As the cops would say "just forget the gun registry and let them all kill each other" :D

ShadowVlican
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:00 PM
Worst areas in Toronto is where government housing exist.
+1


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Woolner ave @ Jane st...... for years it was considered the "little sister of Jane/Finch" but after a tough Filipina manager took over the management job of all 6 highrise buildings, the cockroachery was cleaned out and the area became somewhat safer. She introduced security guards and kicked out the bad element from the apartments.
wow kudos to her!

tkl
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:20 PM
Just to name a few.

31 div - Driftwood ave/Driftwood crt , Shoreham crt, Tobermory

23 div - 27x7 Kipling

12 div - Woolner

32 div - Forgot the street but its first the townhouse complex across from the Nymark Plaza , north of North York General.

nlitez
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:23 PM
South and North of the 401 this includes the following

- Brampton
- Etobicoke
- North York
- Scarborough


errr its actually easier to name the nice places

- Woodbridge/Vaughan
- Maple
- Concord
- Thornhill
- King City
- Richmond Hill
- Part of Markham (Nearing Richmond Hill)
- Parts of Mississauga
- And 2 or 3 streets in North York surrounded by govn't housing so technically it doesn't count. There are some really good places in north york. what are you talking about?

kunjar
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:38 PM
mississauga rd/dundas

Talamasca
Jan 8th, 2008, 12:34 AM
mississauga rd/dundas

You must lead a very sheltered life if you think that is a bad neighbourhood.

Mike_wang
Jan 8th, 2008, 12:38 AM
Greenwood at night @_@

Carnage
Jan 8th, 2008, 12:43 AM
rexdale..malton..humberwood..driftwood..connection s..jungle..yblock..knl..chester le..g-way..shoreshots..flemo..parma..malvern...jamestown ..d-block..regent park..sauga..brampton..weston and finch...ardwick and finch..jane and finch...basically the whole finch strip...


I grew up in Weston, and went to school in Rexdale.

We had a crack house across the street from us. Growing up they killed two guys (our house would be inside the police lines), burnt the house down twice, and cops were there too many times to count.

Moving away was the best thing my family ever did. :lol:

kunjar
Jan 8th, 2008, 12:52 AM
You must lead a very sheltered life if you think that is a bad neighbourhood.

lol

wisdom_kid
Jan 8th, 2008, 12:56 AM
Its been 11 years since I came to Canada, and I lived in North York, Scarborough and now in Richmond Hill.

-North York : The area was quite nice back then and spent my early days there.
- Scarborough : My dad made the worst investment by buying a house there. We thought living with brown people would be good for us, but boy were we wrong. :| At least I made some good friends there.
- Richmond Hill : So far so good.

As for the safety, we got our house robbed in North York so that was quite bad. In Scarborough someone broke into my sister's car and stole the CD player. Some dog pissed on our lawn in Richmond Hill.

engineeringsux
Jan 8th, 2008, 01:42 AM
The real crooks are in city hall :mad:

robertalan
Jan 8th, 2008, 05:16 AM
Still, the crime in Toronto pales in comparison to that of major American cities.

Not to mention most other Canadian cities.

felix
Jan 8th, 2008, 05:35 AM
Some dog pissed on our lawn in Richmond Hill.
I think that happens in every city!

konfusion666
Jan 8th, 2008, 02:12 PM
anyway i grew up down the road at Don Mills / Eglington - Flemingdon Park..

i'll never forget when i was walking home one day to find otu the field i cross on a daily basis littered with cops and police vehcials. i found out later they used that area as their command post as they performed a huge drug raid in the area and arrested over 100 people on drug related charges.

That area can't be that bad. That's the closest RCSS that I shop at, and the place that fixes our XBoxes (Celestica) is next door. ;)

konfusion666
Jan 8th, 2008, 02:14 PM
i heard all the hells angels live in woodbridge

But just like how the subdivision that Tony Soprano lives in is nice and quiet, you would expect the same from Gino-bridge...

wisdom_kid
Jan 8th, 2008, 02:23 PM
I think that happens in every city!

It was my sad attempt to make a joke :(

rollen
Jan 8th, 2008, 02:29 PM
dixie & bloor area in mississauga is pretty shady...

td0t0
Jan 8th, 2008, 04:50 PM
I can't stand how ignorant people are. I have NEVER felt unsafe in Toronto.

I hate it when I go see family in Ottawa and the front page on their newspaper is something about guns in toronto and everyone there asks if I'm getting shot at and get robbed every other day.....Toronto actually has a very low crime rate and personally I wouldn't call anywhere a dangerous part of town, obviously there are easy areas to point at like Jane & Finch but it really isn't that bad.

The media blows up Toronto crime....

and since when is Brampton dangerous? Sauga? Markham? Richmond Hill?

If you think those areas are dangerous then you clearly need to get more sun...

Kurtz7834
Jan 8th, 2008, 07:50 PM
Lol at some of what people think are 'bad areas' of Toronto.

Contrary to popular belief, Toronto does not have a lot of (violent) crime, although there is a lot of theft and fraud here. If you want to talk about least safe areas here, there are many problem spots all along Finch Ave, across the city. I'm pretty sure the north parts of the city are where most of the (small number of) murders happen. Toronto's homicide rate was I believe around 85 last year which is extremely low given our large population.

Some of the 'bad' areas of Toronto would be 'good' areas in many US cities.

Kurtz7834
Jan 8th, 2008, 07:54 PM
I can't stand how ignorant people are. I have NEVER felt unsafe in Toronto.

I hate it when I go see family in Ottawa and the front page on their newspaper is something about guns in toronto and everyone there asks if I'm getting shot at and get robbed every other day.....Toronto actually has a very low crime rate and personally I wouldn't call anywhere a dangerous part of town, obviously there are easy areas to point at like Jane & Finch but it really isn't that bad.

The media blows up Toronto crime....

and since when is Brampton dangerous? Sauga? Markham? Richmond Hill?

If you think those areas are dangerous then you clearly need to get more sun...

All I can say is it's a compliment to Toronto that some people think the aforementioned suburban areas are dangerous, they are fortunate enough to never have seen a truly bad area.

SyncMaster04
Jan 8th, 2008, 10:50 PM
Many people don't realize that Toronto's crime rate per capita is one of the lowest in the country. According to recent StatsCan report Toronto is the second most safest city in the country.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2007/07/18/to-crime.html


The Toronto area has the second-lowest crime rate of all large urban regions in Canada, behind Quebec City, according to figures released Wednesday by Statistics Canada.
....

"Toronto is actually one of the safest communities in Canada," University of Ottawa criminologist Ron Melchers told CBC News.

Contrary to popular belief, smaller cities in Western Canada have more crimes per capita, with Regina claiming the dubious distinction as Canada's crime capital.
Compared to other big North American cities Toronto and most other Canadian cities are very safe:

http://www.2ontario.com/welcome/ooql_602.asp

minib26
Jan 9th, 2008, 10:57 AM
That area can't be that bad. That's the closest RCSS that I shop at, and the place that fixes our XBoxes (Celestica) is next door. ;)

the area where the RCSS / Celestica is is fine.. drive south on don mills for a bit, and the area east of the Science Centre, otherwise known as Flemingdon Park, has had its share of crime.

thats the funny thing about this town of ours. its not built like other NA cities, where there is a concentration of low-income housing in the urban areas of the city, and as you work in concentrec circles outwards it gets more and more affluent (i'm totally generalizing here).

In TO, you can have a relatively low-income area, IE. Flemingdon Park, where there is a very high population density as well (lots of apartment buildings). and then if you go 10 minutes up don mills you arrive at a don-mills / york mills area, where it is upper-middle class.. or if you drive 10 minutes west on eglington your @ eglington / baview.. and i wouldn't even venture a guess as to how much property is in that area.

pipolchap
Jan 11th, 2008, 08:48 AM
If you want to know where the ballin areas are, check this out
http://www.urbancentre.utoronto.ca/pdfs/researchbulletins/CUCSRB41_Hulchanski_Three_Cities_Toronto.pdf

THEM BRICK KIDS
Jan 30th, 2008, 06:59 PM
Jane And Finch, no doubt. i think 80% of people in Toronto would agree

DaVibe
Jan 30th, 2008, 07:13 PM
Rexdale, Malvern, markham/Eglinton, Don Mills/Lawrence

More like Don Mills and Finch (not that far, actually around Peanut Plaza) ... that North York area has lots of housings and therefore, crimes.

P.S. There's a housing complex right next to the "Leslie & Finch Plaza" everyone has come to familiarze with this evening.

DaVibe
Jan 30th, 2008, 07:14 PM
Jane And Finch, no doubt. i think 80% of people in Toronto would agree

I wouldn't say EXACTLY that street corner, but the general area has the city's immigrants and poverty ...

If you've ever passed Jane & Finch, its actually pretty busy, lots of bus stops and fully light up, even at night.

DaVibe
Jan 30th, 2008, 07:16 PM
Many people don't realize that Toronto's crime rate per capita is one of the lowest in the country. According to recent StatsCan report Toronto is the second most safest city in the country.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2007/07/18/to-crime.html


Compared to other big North American cities Toronto and most other Canadian cities are very safe:

http://www.2ontario.com/welcome/ooql_602.asp

Define crime rate? Deaths???
There's parts of this city I would not (and do not) walk alone in at night ... or even during the day for safety reasons ...
Places I "keep my eyes open" ...

That's what I call an "Unsafe Area" regardless of death rates.
People get robbed every day. I have, it's not fun.

revelation
Jan 30th, 2008, 08:23 PM
I wouldn't say EXACTLY that street corner, but the general area has the city's immigrants and poverty ...

If you've ever passed Jane & Finch, its actually pretty busy, lots of bus stops and fully light up, even at night.

The bad nature of the Jane and Finch can be easily seen - I know several girls who been followed and harassed by men in cars with no pants playing with the shift knob. Not limited to J/F though, its happened in plenty of other areas that aren't worth mentioning. Robberies and other "minor" offenses are also fairly common.

The obvious violent crime is more controlled and localized to certain areas due to the strong police presence, though.