Another Freudian Slip

[glaswegian]

Golf Channel suspended anchor Kelly Tilghman for two weeks on Wednesday for saying last week that young players who wanted to challenge Tiger Woods should "lynch him in a back alley."




http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,321527,00.html


I guess this person missed the whole Michael Richards and Don Imus thing eh? I always find it odd that when some white folks want to make certain comments about people of colour, or direct anger towards a person of colour ( anything but white ), they drag the colour issue into it :?: :?:

If you want to call a person an ar$e, idiot or whatever, just call them that no matter what they look like :idea:

[goJays]

how does this relate to Freud?

[danfromwaterloo]

Golf Channel suspended anchor Kelly Tilghman for two weeks on Wednesday for saying last week that young players who wanted to challenge Tiger Woods should "lynch him in a back alley."




http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,321527,00.html


I guess this person missed the whole Michael Richards and Don Imus thing eh? I always find it odd that when some white folks want to make certain comments about people of colour, or direct anger towards a person of colour ( anything but white ), they drag the colour issue into it :?: :?:

If you want to call a person an ar$e, idiot or whatever, just call them that no matter what they look like :idea:

I honestly don't think he intended it as a racist joke. It was an unfortunate choice of words - it's a regular expression that does get used. The fact that Tiger is black is what makes it bad.

It's kinda like saying "I have an employee that's my slave at work". If the employee is white, it's an expression. If the employee is black, it's racist.

[Bazooka Joe]

I honestly don't think he intended it as a racist joke. It was an unfortunate choice of words - it's a regular expression that does get used. The fact that Tiger is black is what makes it bad.

It's kinda like saying "I have an employee that's my slave at work". If the employee is white, it's an expression. If the employee is black, it's racist.

+1

I work at a place where the drafting/design team call themselves the "(Auto)cad monkeys". I think that practice would stop if any of them were black - as then all of a sudden it would be racist.

Here's a good joke on that vein.

A tourist walked into a pet shop and was looking at the animals on display. While he was there, another customer walked in and said to the shopkeeper, "I'll have an AutoCAD monkey please." The shopkeeper nodded, went over to a cage at the side of the shop and took out a monkey. He fitted a collar and leash, handed it to the customer, saying, "That'll be $5000." The customer paid and walked out with his monkey.

Startled, the tourist went over to the shopkeeper and said, "That was a very expensive monkey. Most of them are only few hundred dollars. Why did that one cost so much?"

The Shopkeeper answered, "Ah, that monkey can draw in AutoCAD - very fast, clear layouts, no mistakes, well worth the money."

The tourist looked at a monkey in another cage. "That one's even more expensive! $10,000! What does it do?"

"Oh, that one's a Design monkey; it can design systems, layout projects, mark-up drawings, write specifications, some even calculate. All the really useful stuff," said the shopkeeper.

The tourist looked around for a little longer and saw a third monkey in its own cage. The price tag around its neck read $50,000. He gasped to the shopkeeper, "That one costs more than all the others put together! What on earth does it do?"

The shopkeeper replied, "Well, I haven't actually seen it do anything, but it says it's an Engineer."

[gnunn]

The shopkeeper replied, "Well, I haven't actually seen it do anything, but it says it's an Engineer."

As an electrical engineer I found that joke offensive :razz:

Seriously though that was hilarious and I have saved it for future reference to mail to some other engineers I know.

Anyways back to the OP, while the comment was out of line one thing that concerns me is societies total lack of tolerance of foot in mouth disease. Let's face it we've all said something stupid or inappropriate at one point or another, given the nature of the comment it was obviously not intended as a racist comment yet all of the gadflies are out calling for her to be fired. It would be nice if society could accept that sometimes people get verbal diarrhea and stop analyzing it as some hidden window to their true feelings.

Having said that, her half hearted apology didn't help matters. If you say something stupid like that the best thing to do is offer the sincere and full mea culpa before moving on.

[ipxxx]

how does this relate to Freud?

+1 ... little curious as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip


A Freudian slip, or parapraxis, is an error in speech, memory, or physical action that is believed to be caused by the unconscious mind.

[branat]

No, just sexist. If she were Imus, she would've been fired by now.

[glaswegian]

Have you 2 heard the phrase "A figure of speech" before???



+1 ... little curious as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip

[glaswegian]

Like I said, as a visible minority, I don't understand why some "white folks" feel the need to attach colour to a comment or an insult. Just to give you an example....Am from London England, born and bred, growing up with every nationality you can think of, and had more friends outside my own race, and dated outside it too.

I never once when someone got on my nerves attached their colour to my proposed insult to them. If I was going to call them a w4nker, prat, tw1t or whatever, I did just that, with no colour attached to that insult.

Why on earth can't some people do the same????? I know why, because they were raised to be xenophobes



As an electrical engineer I found that joke offensive :razz:

Seriously though that was hilarious and I have saved it for future reference to mail to some other engineers I know.

Anyways back to the OP, while the comment was out of line one thing that concerns me is societies total lack of tolerance of foot in mouth disease. Let's face it we've all said something stupid or inappropriate at one point or another, given the nature of the comment it was obviously not intended as a racist comment yet all of the gadflies are out calling for her to be fired. It would be nice if society could accept that sometimes people get verbal diarrhea and stop analyzing it as some hidden window to their true feelings.

Having said that, her half hearted apology didn't help matters. If you say something stupid like that the best thing to do is offer the sincere and full mea culpa before moving on.

[glaswegian]

Do you even know who Freud is without doing a google search? Don't bother, I just educated you for free:!:

Like the definition above, it can be said that she ( the anchor ) said what she said with an unconscious mind. Get in now?



how does this relate to Freud?

[ratface]

Have you 2 heard the phrase "A figure of speech" before???

I'd say they have... that's why they commented that you chose the wrong figure of speech to describe this situation.
"slip of the tongue" "mountain out of a molehill" might have been more appropriate choices.

[nolimtzel]

did anybody note how al sharpton was on scene within hours.

[glaswegian]

I chose that because I felt it fitted the article. Perhaps you should read the entire thing to understand it. Amazing how you speak onbehalf of these 2 eh, are they your brothers/friends/aquaintances?

Bollocks



I'd say they have... that's why they commented that you chose the wrong figure of speech to describe this situation.
"slip of the tongue" "mountain out of a molehill" might have been more appropriate choices.

[glaswegian]

I'll be the 1st to tell you that Al Sharpton is a w4nker, muppet and a buffoon. The oik is as important as t*ts on a bull


did anybody note how al sharpton was on scene within hours.

[Rehan]

glaswegian, it's okay to be wrong sometimes. :) It's definitely not a Freudian slip.

I think danfromwaterloo got it bang on -- it was a poor choice of words that wasn't meant as a racist comment, but it's now blown out of proportion.

[glaswegian]

Rehan....I concur. I am only human afterall, wish I was a cyborg :D



glaswegian, it's okay to be wrong sometimes. :) It's definitely not a Freudian slip.

I think danfromwaterloo got it bang on -- it was a poor choice of words that wasn't meant as a racist comment, but it's now blown out of proportion.

[ipxxx]

I'm sorry ... but ... huh? You go ahead and get angry and tell us that we are wrong but when a moderator tells you that you are wrong you finally agree?

...?



Have you 2 heard the phrase "A figure of speech" before???


Do you even know who Freud is without doing a google search? Don't bother, I just educated you for free:!:

Like the definition above, it can be said that she ( the anchor ) said what she said with an unconscious mind. Get in now?


I chose that because I felt it fitted the article. Perhaps you should read the entire thing to understand it. Amazing how you speak onbehalf of these 2 eh, are they your brothers/friends/aquaintances?

Bollocks

[glaswegian]

Don't be a muppet! I was agreeing to the last part of his comment above, about things being blown out of proportion.

"You go ahead and get angry".... listen to yourself there. I bet you didn't even know who Freud was until today?



I'm sorry ... but ... huh? You go ahead and get angry and tell us that we are wrong but when a moderator tells you that you are wrong you finally agree?

...?

[Dustbunny]

I always find it odd that when some white folks want to make certain comments about people of colour, or direct anger towards a person of colour ( anything but white ), they drag the colour issue into it :?: :?:

If you want to call a person an ar$e, idiot or whatever, just call them that no matter what they look like :idea:

What you may be missing is that in N. America in particular there are a lot of very old and very common phrases which people often forget have origins in a time when races or religions were not equal or treated well. Unless people really start to think about what they say they often don't realize particularly if they were not around when the sensitivity training was handed out. So it's not always directly related to colour or religion or whatever until someone educates them. This may be a phrase she uses all the time without it even dawning on her it's offensive and hopefully now she brain up and find out where things came from first.

A good for instance would be 'eeny, meany, miney, moe..." which some people still say the old way having no idea what the words are saying, just habit. Another is how people used to commonly say they were jipped or jewed out of something until they learned those are slams against gypsies and Jews. Also if you want one aimed at whites try Indian giver, it isn't originally about anyone but whites and there are many more.

Regardless, a broadcaster has to be on their feet and aware of what may or may not be offensive to anyone who might be watching or they deserve to be fired. Until those who are still speaking in ways that are offensive (especially in the media) stop, you can't expect everyone else to start to get it.

As one personal observation, it amazes me that given what seems to be the average age group on this forum, the number of times sexist, racist, and other bigoted remarks go flying by without correction truly makes me wonder what on earth is going on in a country where equity, diversity, and tolerance are things which are supposed to be setting us apart. Apparently a lot of people just aren't getting it. Also don't keep blaming the whites as it seems to be as big an issue with other races and bigots exist in each and every group. Everyone is the same, some good and bad in all groups and if people would simply stop blaming a group for what an individual does we'd all be further ahead.

[Digo]

Sorry, that is not a Freudian slip. I know because I have a Ph.D in Monkeys. ;)

[glaswegian]

Dustbunny....some good points there. Just look at the post below.



Sorry, that is not a Freudian slip. I know because I have a Ph.D in Monkeys. ;)

[CastIronStove]

Don't be a muppet! I was agreeing to the last part of his comment above, about things being blown out of proportion.

"You go ahead and get angry".... listen to yourself there. I bet you didn't even know who Freud was until today?

You're pretty snarky for someone who's using the term Freudian slip wrong.

A Freudian slip is an error in speech that Freud believed represents an unconscious desire or belief.

The anchor saying what they said was not a speech error, they made a conscious decision to say it. It was poor judgment, not a Freudian slip.

[glaswegian]

Perhaps you should concentrate on the contents of the post, rather than the subject line? If you further into this, this same person apparently has been friends with Tiger for 12yrs.

Obviously what she said is wrong, and no one is condoning that. I guess I should have put a question mark at the end of the title, and that would have kept the oiks out




You're pretty snarky for someone who's using the term Freudian slip wrong.

A Freudian slip is an error in speech that Freud believed represents an unconscious desire or belief.

The anchor saying what they said was not a speech error, they made a conscious decision to say it. It was poor judgment, not a Freudian slip.

[bokep]

Don't be a muppet! I was agreeing to the last part of his comment above, about things being blown out of proportion.

"You go ahead and get angry".... listen to yourself there. I bet you didn't even know who Freud was until today?

You only calmed down because Rehan chimed in, otherwise you'd still be trying to defend your mistake. Pathetic.

Either way Tiger's like what 1/4 or 1/8 black? Not big of a deal IMO. The anchor still is an idiot though.

[CastIronStove]

Perhaps you should concentrate on the contents of the post, rather than the subject line? If you further into this, this same person apparently has been friends with Tiger for 12yrs.

Obviously what she said is wrong, and no one is condoning that. I guess I should have put a question mark at the end of the title, and that would have kept the oiks out

Why bother? You've clearly already made up your mind about the incident and any level of discussion would be entirely wasted.

Correcting your misconceptions (and attitude) actually serves a purpose.

[Digo]

Dustbunny....some good points there. Just look at the post below.

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